[02:10] <cozziemoto> is there a minimal install cd available for oneiric yet?
[02:58] <frewsxcv> what has better battery life. ati proprietary or open source drivers?
[06:10] <frewsxcv> 3~/part
[09:11] <Ian_Corne> proprietary iirc
[10:26] <BUGabundo> finally
[10:26] <BUGabundo> we have composite back
[10:35] <BUGabundo> and kmail still sucks.... time to begin looking for another offline email client
[10:57] <micahg> BUGabundo: thunderbird :)
[11:11] <BUGabundo> kmail(3819) KMail::AccountManager::readConfig: Config upgrade failed! Danger! Trying to convert old account type for account ""
[11:11] <BUGabundo> kmail(3819) KMail::AccountManager::readConfig: Unrecognized account type. Your account settings are now lost, sorry.
[11:11] <BUGabundo> awesome
[11:26] <BUGabundo> "Message could not be added to the folder, possibly disk space is low."
[11:26] <BUGabundo> hating kmail more and more
[11:30] <micahg> BUGabundo: I switched from kmail to thunderbird 4 years ago and never looked back :)
[11:31] <BUGabundo> 4 years ago, TB would scare a ghost
[11:39] <Ian_Corne> kmail even more probably
[11:44] <BUGabundo> I've been using kmail since 2005
[11:48] <BUGabundo> who still remembers grub 0.9 ? :D
[11:48]  * yofel can't say he remembers lilo at least
[11:49] <yofel> soon people won't remember kmail 1 and kernel 2.6 either ^^
[11:50]  * ikonia looks at the topic
[13:10] <bil21al> i want to install Canon ip1800 printer  drivers for 11.10 ,the previous drivers it said that it not safe so plz tell me from where i csn get these drivers?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:12] <BluesKaj> so, desktop effects are dead ..again , they were working fine yesterday ..can't the devs just leave well enough alone , if it ain'y broke don't fix it ?
[14:33] <lucidfox> Global menu integration has stopped working for Thunderbird for me
[14:40] <micahg> lucidfox: which version?
[14:43] <lucidfox> 5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu3
[14:49] <micahg> lucidfox: did you restart thunderbird after the update?
[14:51] <lucidfox> yes
[14:54] <micahg> lucidfox: anything in the error console?
[14:57] <lucidfox> sikon@maia-desktop:~$ thunderbird
[14:57] <lucidfox> enigmail.js: Registered components
[14:57] <lucidfox> (thunderbird-bin:13413): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register existing type `DbusmenuServer'
[14:57] <lucidfox> (thunderbird-bin:13413): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `initialization_value != 0' failed
[14:57] <lucidfox> (thunderbird-bin:13413): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_new: assertion `G_TYPE_IS_OBJECT (object_type)' failed
[15:06] <micahg> lucidfox: anything in the error console inside thunderbird, Tools -> error console
[15:06] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ^^ any ideas?
[15:08] <lucidfox> micahg, http://paste.ubuntu.com/636371/
[15:08] <BluesKaj> reinstalled the nvidia driver ...jockey showed it was installed but not being used ... desktop effects are back
[15:11] <chrisccoulson> you've got 2 dbusmenu versions loaded in to the same address space
[15:11] <chrisccoulson> which means you have a third party extension loading the old ABI in
[15:17] <lucidfox> chrisccoulson, aha, it was the Messaging Menu Integration extension
[15:18] <chrisccoulson> lucidfox, right
[15:19] <chrisccoulson> you need a newer version of it, we fixed that already
[15:19] <chrisccoulson> are you on oneiric?
[15:19] <chrisccoulson> that has the messagingmenu extension by default now
[16:25] <liuchunxue> 3
[17:01] <snadge> im updating my htpc to oneiric
[17:03] <snadge> it needs a kernel 2.6.39 for the wireless to work stable and the one in kernel-ppa doesnt exist anymore.. and the one i got from the ubuntu kernel archive doesn't appear to work with console graphics
[17:04] <snadge> i will hopefully contribute by testing and maybe even some fixes if i get lucky
[18:38] <snadge> oh yes.. oneiric works much better ;)
[18:39] <snadge> includes catalyst 10.6 and linux 3.0 .. very nice hehe
[18:39] <KM0201> linux 3.0?
[18:40] <snadge> apparently
[18:40] <snadge> Linux ritmo 3.0-2-generic #3-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 24 19:14:33 UTC 2011 x86_64
[18:40] <tsimpson> kernel version 3.0, not that anything actually warrants it being 3.0
[18:41] <tsimpson> it 2.6.xxx, but with a "OMG, it's 3.0!"
[18:41] <snadge> im using a mini-itx asus amd fusion board
[18:42] <snadge> and updating the kernel and catalyst in natty.. i had no console outside of x
[18:42] <snadge> window movement with wobble windows enabled was a bit jerky
[18:43] <snadge> oneiric comes with updated kernel and catalyst already.. doesn't appear to have those problems either
[19:26] <Ether_Man> Anyone that could fix or forward to someone that can fix, or at the very least give a timeplan for when the bind9 and bind9-utils packages in the repos will be updated to match the updated libs? Right now it's impossible to install it due to the dependancy missmatch with libs being a newer version and the main packages defined as a specific version.
[19:27] <Pici> Ether_Man: Is there a bug filed for that?
[19:28] <Ether_Man> Pici, there was... that was closed as "invalid" and the user told to uninstall bind9 to "fix"...
[19:28] <Pici> Ether_Man: Can you provide me with a link or bug #?
[19:29] <Ether_Man> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/+bug/803679
[19:31] <Pici> Ether_Man: Thats the same person that logged the bug. And their solution does not involve uninstalling bind9.
[19:31] <Ether_Man> apt-get install -f    while the installed bind9 relies on packages that dont exist anymore..  Will result in bind9 being uninstalled
[19:33] <Ether_Man> And while it may be that it's the same person, it's still seemingly a problem..  Checked multiple of the repos and none of them have the 2.1 bind9 package in the oneiric tree
[19:37] <Pici> Ether_Man: I'd definitely log a new bug.  It looks like the 2.1 version landed in Natty, which I'm guessing you upgraded from, but not in Oeniric.
[19:37] <Pici> As listed here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/1:9.7.3.dfsg-1ubuntu2.1
[19:39] <Ether_Man> True I did upgrade from that. However purging the libs, and reinstalling should still be possible then shouldnt it?
[19:40] <Pici> Ether_Man: yes, I'd do an apt-get clean though as well. It can't hurt, and it'll get those oddly versioned packages off your system.
[19:41] <Ether_Man> I have and that's kindof the thing. Even when purged, the libs still say 2.1..  Which I can only conclude have to come from the repos version then :/
[19:43] <Pici> Ether_Man: What does apt-cache policy say about them?
[19:46] <Ether_Man> hmm..  That they're installed. But purging bind9 should have uninstalled libs belonging to it shouldnt it? O_o
[19:46] <Pici> Ether_Man: purge just removes configuration files. apt-get autoremove will remove unneeded dependencies.
[19:46] <Ether_Man> or no wait..  those libs are depended on by ubuntu-standard which Im guessing would be a bad idea to remove
[19:48] <Ether_Man> Taking the natty deb and installing manually should work right? Think I'll do that as a temporary fix if so :/
[19:52] <Ether_Man> Yea. That worked..
[19:53] <Ether_Man> My what strange things happen when dist upgrading it seems :)
[19:53] <Pici> Ether_Man: You should still file a bug though, since this problem is bound to trouble other upgrades from Natty.
[19:54] <Ether_Man> Will do
[19:57] <Ether_Man> Takes awhile for registration on launchpad to go through my graylisting though >_<
[20:09] <bil21al> i have now upgrade my system from terminal using command  ..and after upgrade i restart than i report a bug but in bug description this is written upgrade to oneirics 3 days ago..what can i do now????
[20:39] <yofel> bil21al: right, the date you updated to oneiric is included in the reports, what's the problem?
[20:40] <bil21al> hmm i ask in bugs they answer me thank for anwering  yofel;
[20:41] <yofel> oh right
[20:44] <yofel> bil21al: also, as you might realize from 'dist-upgrade', there is a bit of a mixup between update and  upgrade. If someone tells you to upgrade packages he doesn't necessarily mean to upgrade to another release
[20:44] <bil21al> ok
[20:44] <yofel> well, debian did/does use apt-get dist-upgrade for release upgrades
[20:45] <yofel> you'll get used to it...
[21:48] <BUGabundo> evening
[22:41] <RRRRube> Does anyone know how to prevent mounted volumes appearing on the desktop. You used to be able to open gconf-editor and go to Apps / Nautilus / Desktop and untick "Volumes Visible" in there. But now there is only an option to change the font. Any ideas?
[23:40] <Daekdroom> I'm bored. I think I'm gonna try to upgrade to 11.10 again.
[23:50] <magn3ts> VM
[23:50] <magn3ts> It'd be awesome if the Sound Menu listed applications playing audio and allowed you to adjust the volume for each.
[23:51] <Daekdroom> and some of those controls could be directly glued to a in-app volume setting if they had it (audio players, totem?)