[08:46] <duanedesign> morning all
[09:05] <fagan> morning duanedesign
[09:05] <duanedesign> o/
[09:05] <fagan> duanedesign: documenting is hard work
[09:05] <fagan> :/
[09:05] <fagan> :D
[11:37] <ralsina> good morning ubuntuone!
[11:37] <duanedesign> o/
[12:00] <fagan> morning ralsina
[12:02] <ralsina> morning fagan, duanedesign
[12:35]  * mandel walking dog
[12:47] <Chipaca> nessita: morning!
[12:47] <nessita> hello everyone!
[12:47] <nessita> hi Chipaca
[12:55] <ralsina> hola nessita
[12:56] <nessita> hola ralsina!
[12:57] <ralsina> nessita: I just reported a tiny bug in humanize(), I canfix it myself if you don't mind
[12:57] <ralsina> bug #804271
[12:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 804271 in ubuntuone-control-panel "humanize returns things like "1.0 Bytes" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804271
[12:57] <nessita> ralsina: sure, you can fix. What would you expect there?
[12:57] <ralsina> 1 Byte
[12:58] <nessita> ah, good
[12:58] <ralsina> or let's say we ignore pluralization, 1 Bytes
[12:58] <ralsina> ;)
[12:58] <nessita> ralsina: can you add tests for humanize? there aren't any
[12:58] <ralsina> nessita: sure
[12:58] <nessita> thanks
[12:58] <ralsina> SHAME ON YOU!
[12:58] <ralsina> ;)
[12:58] <nessita> :-)
[12:59] <nessita> you 100% right
[12:59] <rye> 1.5 bytes
[13:01] <rye> Once a virtual aircraft designer came to a programmer who was responsible for the model and asked him to make texture a half-pixel lower. The programmer agreed easily.
[13:01] <rye> 7 years have passed and I still don't understand how that could happen
[13:02] <ralsina> rye: you know, now we use LCDs we *do* have sub-pixel positioning and such
[13:02] <ralsina> Not half-pixel, but 1/3rd of a pixel? Sure :-)
[13:03] <rye> ralsina, but 0.5 pixel down, not right or left and all our displays have horizontal subpixels :'-(
[13:03] <ralsina> rye: use antialiasing! Make the top pixel half-the-color :-)
[13:04] <ralsina> rye: I am just joking, BTW ;-)
[13:04] <rye> ralsina, hm, haven't thought about that, actually
[13:06] <rye> ok, confirming, the only carrier that has issues with my Acer Liquid E phone here is the one that i am using. Splendid.
[13:06] <ralsina> nessita: I am changing the unit "bytes" to "B" to avoid having to care about pluralization
[13:06] <nessita> ralsina: wait
[13:06] <nessita> we can't
[13:06] <ralsina> why?
[13:06] <ralsina> it's a valid ISO unit
[13:06] <nessita> ralsina: we need to follow a given unity policy
[13:07] <nessita> ralsina: looking the wiki to see if that's valid...
[13:07] <ralsina> ok, the odds of someone selecting a folder less that 1KiB are nul
[13:07] <ralsina> not to mention him noticing the "s"
[13:10] <nessita> ralsina: I'm not sure if that's valid or not https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnitsPolicy
[13:11] <ralsina> I can always make this stop at a higher unit, report in KiB as the smallest
[13:12] <ralsina> makes sense for disk sizes
[13:17] <Chipaca> ralsina: fwiw, in most filesystems (i think FAT is a notable exception, but ISOwhatsit for cds is another) takes up a block, so between 1k and 8k
[13:17] <Chipaca> ralsina: *a directory takes up
[13:18] <Chipaca> ralsina: mkdir foo; du foo
[13:18] <ralsina> Chipaca: yes, but the way we are calculating, it takes 0, because calculating that is *hard*
[13:18] <ralsina> Do folders take quota in u1?
[13:18] <Chipaca> no, they don't
[13:18] <Chipaca> today
[13:18] <ralsina> then I am doing it right (TM)
[13:18] <ralsina> today
[13:18] <Chipaca> that coulc change if people start abusing it
[13:18] <Chipaca> *could
[13:18]  * ralsina writes script to encode mp3 as folder names
[13:18] <nessita> Chipaca: is the VM un-suspended?
[13:19] <Chipaca> nessita: no
[13:19] <Chipaca> nessita: should it be
[13:19] <nessita> Chipaca: is there any chance to un-suspend it?
[13:19] <Chipaca> ?
[13:19] <Chipaca> nessita: unsuspended
[13:19] <nessita> thanks!
[13:22] <nessita> Chipaca: your connection seems kinda "choked", weird because yesterday it was fine. Maybe she has some other tasks to attend on mon, wed and fri? :-)
[13:22] <Chipaca> nessita: i can confirm it works fine from here
[13:22] <Chipaca> nessita: yep
[13:23] <nessita> ok
[13:23]  * nessita -> cold -> hot tea making
[13:38] <Chipaca> mandel: ping
[13:54] <Chipaca> Neoti: question for you, ma'am, as the keeper of the holy grail of testing
[13:54] <thisfred> should that not be nessita?
[13:54] <Chipaca> didn't i ... oh
[13:54] <Chipaca> nessita: question for you, ma'am, as the keeper of the holy grail of testing
[13:55] <nessita> shoot
[13:55] <Chipaca> thisfred: thank you
[13:55] <thisfred> ;)
[13:56] <Chipaca> nessita: i'd like to do a minor code change that shouldn't break anything but that should get us into being able to spot problems early on: adding 'b' to every single file/open/whatever call
[13:57] <Chipaca> nessita: from what i can tell most places where we aren't specifying 'b' are kinda ok with it because we're reading text files, but that is more accident than intent
[13:57] <Chipaca> nessita: but, that does mean that it's not something that can be tested for, really
[13:57] <Chipaca> it'll just improve the smelliness of the non-b opens
[13:58] <nessita> Chipaca: so, I have this doubt. Do we always want to use the 'b' (100% of the time)?
[13:58] <Chipaca> welll.... either 'b', or 'U' :)
[13:58] <nessita> Chipaca: I would expect that, for handling metadata files, we will not use it
[13:58] <ralsina> nessita: for your next context switch, trivial branch for humanize: https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-control-panel/fix_804271/+merge/66595
[13:58] <ralsina> U?
[13:58] <Chipaca> nessita: which metadata files?
[13:58] <Chipaca> ralsina: universal newlines
[13:59] <ralsina> ok
[13:59] <nessita> Chipaca: volume manager has metadata, tritcask
[14:00] <Chipaca> nessita: vm metadata is different from tritcask?
[14:00] <nessita> no
[14:00] <nessita> also, fsm has metadata as well
[14:01] <nessita> anyways
[14:01] <nessita> me
[14:01] <nessita> Chipaca: let's continue on the meeting I'm interested :-)
[14:01] <ralsina> me
[14:01] <mandel> Chipaca: pong
[14:01] <mandel> me
[14:02] <ralsina> thisfred dobey alecu fagan mandel ping
[14:02] <thisfred> me
[14:02] <dobey> me
[14:02] <alecu> hello!
[14:02] <alecu> me
[14:03] <nessita> DONE: testing, testing and more syncdaemon testing in windows. Reported several bugs.
[14:03] <nessita> TODO: have control panel tests running in windows.
[14:03] <nessita> BLOCKED: nopes
[14:03] <nessita> NEXT: ralsina
[14:03] <ralsina> DONE
[14:03] <ralsina> * Windows call
[14:03] <ralsina> * Reviews
[14:03] <ralsina> * Talked to claire, straightened up design's situation re: installer
[14:03] <ralsina> * Closed bug #803675, bug #803661, bug #803677, proposed fix for bug #804271
[14:03] <ralsina> * Working on bug #800376
[14:03] <ralsina> TODO
[14:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803675 in ubuntuone-windows-installer "Replace txnamedpipes with qtreactor (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803675
[14:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803661 in ubuntu-sso-client "The Qt existing user login widget is incomplete. (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803661
[14:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803677 in ubuntuone-windows-installer "Make the "current user sign in" page match the design wireframe (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803677
[14:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 804271 in ubuntuone-control-panel "humanize returns things like "1.0 Bytes" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804271
[14:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 800376 in ubuntuone-windows-installer "Add "syncing your computer to the cloud" page to the installer (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/800376
[14:03] <ralsina> finish that bug, polish SSO pages
[14:03] <ralsina> BLOCKED: no
[14:04] <ralsina> nest mandel
[14:04] <nessita> NOTE: I'm not working next Monday
[14:04] <ralsina> NEXT mandel :-)
[14:04] <thisfred> nested mandels? NOOOO (brain explodes)
[14:04] <nessita> lol
[14:04] <thisfred> mandelbrot?
[14:04] <nessita> mandel: go!
[14:04] <alecu> jaaaaa
[14:05] <mandel> DONE: Worked on bug 802498 I\m kind of stuck with it, will be working on other so that we move foward.
[14:05] <mandel> TODO: bug 803984 and bug 804047
[14:05] <mandel> BLOCKED: well little with 802498 so will move to the other two and try that one alter.
[14:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 802498 in ubuntuone-client "Error when doing a partial commit on windows (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802498
[14:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803984 in ubuntuone-client "Windows: Inifite loop between upload started -> upload error (TRY_AGAIN) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803984
[14:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 804047 in ubuntuone-client "Windows: WindowsError on volume_manager (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804047
[14:05] <thisfred> DONE: Bug #803930 Bug #794936 Bug #762722 TODO: Bug #803930 Bug #762722 BLOCKED: no NEXT: dobey
[14:05] <mandel> thisfred: go, right?
[14:05] <thisfred> yep
[14:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803930 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) "Services tab fails with: Value could not be retrieved. (Unauthorized: ('unauthorized', 'Authentication required.')) (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803930
[14:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 794936 in ubuntuone-client "Tests are failing in trunk because of message language (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/794936
[14:05]  * DiegoSarmentero joins ubuntuone
[14:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 762722 in ubuntuone-control-panel (and 1 other project) "Opening the Control Panel during sync removes progress indicator (affects: 1) (heat: 9)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/762722
[14:05] <nessita> hola DiegoSarmentero!
[14:05] <DiegoSarmentero> nessita, buenas
[14:05] <alecu> hello DiegoSarmentero!
[14:06] <nessita> thisfred: you went?
[14:06] <DiegoSarmentero> me
[14:06] <dobey> λ DONE: objectives, failed attempt to get u1cp on lucid
[14:06] <dobey> λ TODO: hack day (changeup)
[14:06] <dobey> λ BLCK: None.
[14:07] <dobey> alecu: go
[14:07] <alecu> DONE: refactored all ipc setup together in u1-client, and moved u1-client to plain reactor (bug #803640). made ubuntuone-control-panel work on qtreactor (bug #803641), and get the credentials from sso
[14:07] <alecu> TODO: fix sd getting credentials from sso, and some u1cp->sd calls
[14:07] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[14:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803640 in ubuntuone-client "Replace txnamedpipes with the standard twisted reactor (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803640
[14:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803641 in ubuntuone-control-panel "Replace txnamedpipes with the qtreactor (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803641
[14:07] <nessita> DiegoSarmentero: go! (you know how this works?)
[14:07] <ralsina> Oh, it's official?
[14:08] <DiegoSarmentero> TODO: finish paperwork, set up things, start styling hopefully
[14:08] <ralsina> yay!
[14:08] <DiegoSarmentero> BLOCKED: just starting
[14:08] <nessita> DiegoSarmentero: awesome :-)
[14:08] <dobey> que?
[14:08] <thisfred> hola DiegoSarmentero, joining the team? :)
[14:08] <Chipaca> dobey: DiegoSarmentero is a contractor who'll be helping us with styling qt a bit
[14:09] <alecu> DiegoSarmentero, welcome!
[14:09] <dobey> ah, ok
[14:09] <DiegoSarmentero> alecu, thanks
[14:09] <nessita> everyone: DiegoSarmentero will be helping us with the CSS styling
[14:09] <nessita> ah, Chipaca said that already :-)
[14:09] <thisfred> awesome, welcome!
[14:09] <mandel> DiegoSarmentero: hola! bienvenido!
[14:09] <DiegoSarmentero> thisfred, thanks :D
[14:09] <nessita> Chipaca: shall we have our meeting in skype so DiegoSarmentero can join us?
[14:09] <mandel> Chipaca: were you after me?
[14:10] <Chipaca> mandel: not really. was going to ask about branches that added 'b', but i've started a metadiscussion about it instead
[14:10] <Chipaca> nessita: sure
[14:10] <dobey> thisfred: could you please answer my questions on your i18n tests merge proposal?
[14:10] <Chipaca> nessita: he's not yet in the right places to be able to mumble
[14:11] <mandel> Chipaca: oh, ok I was thinking of not forcing b at all since we do not want to read text files as binary
[14:11] <alecu> Chipaca, and you are, right?
[14:11] <Chipaca> mandel: yeah... but if they're not 'b' they should be 'U', right?
[14:11] <mandel> Chipaca: although tritcask is very binary and all temp files are too (you do not want to change EOL in a file since from Unix, that is wrong..)
[14:11] <Chipaca> mandel: also: most of our files are not text files :)
[14:11] <dobey> mandel: unicode != text, even if it's a text file though :)
[14:12] <Chipaca> yeah, if we don't use 'b', a person won't be able to share metadata between windows and unix (HAH!)
[14:12] <thisfred> dobey: done
[14:12] <nessita> Chipaca: which we want!
[14:12] <Chipaca> nessita: share metadata file between windows and unix?
[14:12] <alecu> mandel, what files do you want to open or write in non "b"?
[14:12] <Chipaca> nessita: really? like, mount their windows home as their unix home?
[14:12] <alecu> mandel, my understanding is that u1 should open everything in "b"
[14:13] <nessita> Chipaca: we want people not to be able to do that
[14:13] <nessita> a person won't be able to share metadata between windows and unix <- "which we want!"
[14:13] <Chipaca> alecu: not clear to me if the config files should be opened in 'b'. probably not. but if not, in 'U', is my point
[14:13] <mandel> Chipaca, alecu: yes, I cannot think of any reason why b should not be used… maybe the best is to use rb as the default, but do not for a b if the mode was passed
[14:14] <Chipaca> if we use 'b' for the config file, a user won't be able to edit the config file in notepad, afaict
[14:14] <mandel> nessita: we want people to share metadata? really? I though if the metadata is present and files are not sd wil believe you deleted the data
[14:14] <ralsina> Trying to decide if we use b or not based on the file is trying to be too smart. We don't use b because in linux is a no-op, that's all.
[14:14] <alecu> Chipaca, not in notepad, but yes in every other text editor in windows. But I see your point.
[14:14] <Chipaca> but anyway, that's a minor small itty bitty tiny special case. Everything else? b
[14:14] <alecu> +1
[14:15] <mandel> Chipaca: yes, but we are not opening config with open_file, that is mainly restritect to the syncdaemon package where you should ways use open_file except in tritcask because it will be a diff project at some point
[14:15] <ralsina> The set of notepad users who use linux on the side is tiny and they will know what to do.
[14:15] <nessita> Chipaca: I'm not familiar with the U, besides what you've just said. Does it handle binary files "properly" on both platforms?
[14:16] <Chipaca> nessita: "no"
[14:16] <alecu> ralsina, but we want that set to increase to people "not knowing" they are using linux, ie: common users using an oem device.
[14:16] <nessita> Chipaca: ack
[14:16] <alecu> ralsina, and if they have some issue in their windows device, we'll ask them to edit the config. And only notepad will be installed....
[14:17] <nessita> Chipaca, mandel, ralsina, alecu: we'll be having our daily mumble at 10:30 ART (in 14 minutes). We won't do skype since Diego can't do any voice conversation at the moment
[14:17] <ralsina> alecu: the config file is not open by syncdaemon but by some library, surely!
[14:17] <nessita> Chipaca, mandel, ralsina, alecu: until then, I'll help DiegoSarmentero setup his env\
[14:17] <alecu> ralsina, surely! it's called configglue
[14:17] <Chipaca> ./ubuntuone/syncdaemon/action_queue.py:2473:            self.tempfile = open(self.tempfile.name)
[14:17] <ralsina> alecu: ergo, not important for this argument :-)
[14:18] <nessita> Chipaca, mandel: is ok if I move the wiki instructions to a public place, so DiegoSarmentero can access that?
[14:18] <mandel> nessita: I think it is
[14:18] <Chipaca> nessita: yes. Please note the move in our wiki.
[14:18] <nessita> Chipaca: can I move between canonical and ubuntu wikis?
[14:19] <mandel> Chipaca: that line should be using oen_file and 'rb' although open_file will be taking care of long  paths that could happen if the user chose a weird root path
[14:19] <Chipaca> nessita: yes. Note https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Contribute/WindowsTesting.
[14:20] <Chipaca> mandel: that was the only one that stood out in trunk right now; the reason i pinged you was because you might've had some of this in progress already
[14:21] <Chipaca> but, that's a bug that would corrupt binary uploads
[14:21] <ralsina> argh, microsoft doesn't document the value of their magic constants :-(
[14:22] <nessita> ralsina: welcome to the jungle!
[14:22] <mandel> Chipaca: yes I have, I need to sort out the tests
[14:22] <alecu> nessita, mandel that wiki page seems very outdated... We should remove what's obsolete.
[14:22] <nessita> we have fun and games
[14:22] <nessita> alecu: the public one? yes, that was for the old beta
[14:22] <mandel> alecu: indeed, I think we should just remove it entirely
[14:22] <ralsina> oh, well, it's probably 6.... YES!
[14:22] <nessita> alecu: I was planning on updating right now for DiegoSarmentero
[14:23] <Chipaca> ralsina: of course not, they wouldn't be magic if they did!
[14:24] <ralsina> Chipaca: at least there's only 90 of them or so! http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb762494(v=vs.85).aspx
[14:24] <nessita> Chipaca: I'm trying to catch your attention in mumble
[14:25] <DiegoSarmentero> nessita, ralsina please let me know as soon as you have something that I can start reading... I've already have python and bazaar
[14:26] <nessita> DiegoSarmentero: yes, working on making public the wiki page. For now, I'll make a copy and pastebin it
[14:27] <ralsina> DiegoSarmentero: you can check ubuntuone-windows-installer on launchpad
[14:27] <ralsina> DiegoSarmentero: but without the setup nessita is sending you you won't be able to run much
[14:27] <ralsina> DiegoSarmentero: I will be giving you access to our wireframes and texts
[14:27] <DiegoSarmentero> ralsina, ok, thanks!
[14:28] <DiegoSarmentero> ralsina, nessita I'll be dedicated to this 100% after 6pm, but I can take a look at documentation and some code before when you have it :)
[14:29] <ralsina> DiegoSarmentero: have a gmail account?
[14:29] <DiegoSarmentero> yes: diego.sarmentero
[14:30] <nessita> ralsina, alecu, mumble?
[14:30] <ralsina> DiegoSarmentero: will share the relevant docs ASAP
[14:31] <DiegoSarmentero> ralsina, thanks! :D
[14:31] <alecu> nessita, ralsina: I can create a pdf out of the wiki page, and send it to DiegoSarmentero
[14:32] <ralsina> BTW, here are the constants :-) https://pastebin.canonical.com/49269/
[14:47] <fagan> God so sorry poped down to a friends to drop something off and took an hour rather than 5 mins
[14:49] <fagan> me
[14:49] <fagan> ALMOST DONE * port tutorials to rst BLOCKED NO
[14:50] <Chipaca> egrep -rn --include '*.py' --color=always '\b(file|open|fdopen) *\(' . | grep -v platform/linux | less -R
[14:50] <fagan> on that im down to the last one so shouldnt be too long
[14:50] <Chipaca> alecu: nessita: ralsina: mandel: ^^
[14:51] <ralsina> fagan:  a biiiiiiit late for standup
[14:52] <fagan> ralsina: yeah I know I left about 1:30 to drop something to a friend who lives 5 minutes away and ended up having to walk all the way across town
[14:52] <fagan> ralsina: weird week for me got to say
[14:54] <nessita> alecu: I did it already :-)
[15:00] <Chipaca> lisette: could you share the RTC designs for the control panel with DiegoSarmentero?
[15:00] <Chipaca> lisette: and for the installer
[15:00] <lisette> chipaca: do you have an email address?
[15:01] <DiegoSarmentero> lifeless, diego.sarmentero@gmail.com
[15:01] <Chipaca> lisette: I have several! so does diego :-p
[15:01] <DiegoSarmentero> lisette, diego.sarmentero@gmail.com
[15:01] <Chipaca> lisette: thank you!
[15:01]  * mandel super quick late lunch
[15:02] <ralsina> DiegoSarmentero: I shared a bunch of gdocs to you, let me know if you have problems reading them
[15:03] <DiegoSarmentero> ralsina, yes, i'm reading them
[15:03] <DiegoSarmentero> ralsina, thanks
[15:03] <ralsina> DiegoSarmentero: cool
[15:04] <lisette> Chipaca, DiegoSarmentero: done and duh! :P
[15:04] <DiegoSarmentero> DiegoSarmentero, received
[15:06] <Chipaca> damn, 5 minutes into the job and he's already talking to himself
[15:07] <fagan> Chipaca: you guys hire all the crazies :)
[15:07]  * fagan included 
[15:08] <Chipaca> fagan: we try to. usually we limit ourselves to the productive ones, mind.
[15:08] <lisette> :)
[15:09] <dobey> Chipaca: shhh, trade secrets.
[15:09] <Chipaca> TEA TIME!
[15:09] <fagan> Chipaca: yeah crazy with a good hint of productive is a good mix
[15:10] <alecu> nessita, mandel: so, in pylintrc there's this config option called "bad-functions", where we could add file and open and fdopen
[15:10] <nessita> alecu: wow
[15:10] <alecu> nessita, mandel: but I've just realized we are not using pylint on u1-client anymore :-(
[15:11] <nessita> alecu: we can switch back
[15:11]  * nessita runs
[15:11] <alecu> :-)
[15:11] <alecu> on the other hand pyflakes has no docs nor config file :-(
[15:12] <nessita> Chipaca, mandel: can I nuke https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Contribute/WindowsTesting and replace that with the current one + tweaks?
[15:12] <nessita> alecu: I would say let's use pylint again, but that will generate thousands of errors
[15:12] <nessita> alecu: is not doable in the short term
[15:12] <alecu> right
[15:13] <fagan> nessita: are we encouraging outsiders to come in and test?
[15:13] <nessita> fagan: not yet, but soon
[15:13] <Chipaca> add a grep to the tester that errors out if there's a file/open/fdopen outside of known-good places
[15:26] <nessita> ralsina: can you mumble for a little bit?
[15:27] <ralsina> nessita: in 10'?
[15:27] <nessita> ralsina: sure
[15:31] <ralsina> nessita: ok, I'm free now. Was on the phone
[15:31] <nessita> ralsina: we're waiting for lucio
[15:32] <ralsina> nessita: oh, that call. Ok
[15:32] <nessita> :-)
[16:10] <dobey> mandel: ? i don't quite understand bug #804335
[16:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 804335 in ubuntuone-dev-tools "Provide a way to extend the pylint checks (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804335
[16:11] <dobey> Chipaca: what mterry's branch needs, is commit message, not more reviews. :)
[16:12] <Chipaca> dobey: ah!
[16:13]  * Chipaca facepalms
[16:27] <dobey> lunch time. bbiab
[16:44] <DiegoSarmentero> lunch time. brb
[16:57] <ralsina> I just got the most amazingly illegal gadget from dealextreme.com: A handheld mame emulator preloaded with 50000 ROMs
[16:58] <fagan> ralsina: keep cool dont freak out. Ill check outside for some cops :)
[16:59] <fagan> they'll never take us alive
[16:59] <nessita> brb
[17:02] <alecu> ralsina, bueníiiiiiisimo! How's your wii doing?
[17:02] <ralsina> alecu: doing great! tato and I have lots of fun with it. He's a mean swordsman, though. Has freakish handspeed
[17:03] <fagan> alecu: what does the ? in the middle of the buen?iiiiisiomo do?
[17:03]  * fagan doesnt understand the spanish language 
[17:03] <ralsina> fagan: taht's not a ? that's a í
[17:03] <alecu> fagan, it's an "i" with accent. You should stop using OSX
[17:04] <fagan> alecu: this is in ubuntu
[17:04] <fagan> ralsina: must not have that char then :)
[17:05] <fagan> alecu: im using the english char set id say and I dont have that
[17:05] <alecu> fagan, what's your IRC client?
[17:05] <fagan> irssi
[17:06] <alecu> fagan, try "echo $LANG" in another term. What does it say?
[17:06] <fagan> it actually didnt output anything
[17:06] <fagan> wow
[17:06] <fagan> :D
[17:06] <fagan> en_ie
[17:06]  * fagan typed it wrong
[17:07] <alecu> fagan, my stock natty installed in english says "en_US.UTF-8"
[17:08] <fagan> alecu: well you can always change it :)
[17:08] <alecu> fagan, anyway, you asked about "accents". In spanish it means "speak this syllable louder"
[17:08] <fagan> alecu: so its like gooooooooooAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLL  when listening to spanish football casters
[17:08] <alecu> jajajaja
[17:09] <fagan> we just use caps in english
[17:19] <fagan> break for a little bit still have an hour of work left although I have the work finished ish just need to fix some stuff
[17:20] <fagan> oh and ralsina im having a weird problem. rst is giving me an error when I try to put an image in the middle of a list
[17:20] <ralsina> fagan: how are you putting it, pastebin the fragment
[17:21] <fagan> ralsina: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/636423/
[17:22] <ralsina> fagan: I am *so* sure that's not what you have in your document :-(
[17:22] <ralsina> In any case, leave an empty line above and below the image
[17:23] <fagan> ralsina: yeah I just did that to show you the context ill actually pastebin a bit from the doc if you want
[17:24] <ralsina> fagan, that is not context. Context means "these are the bits surrounding the part where I have the problem". If you give me *this* piece of invalid rst, and I gibe you the right solution for that other invalid piece of rst, that's called luck.
[17:24] <fagan> ralsina: ok ill grab a pastebin of it
[17:24] <ralsina> Try my suggestion first
[17:26] <fagan> ralsina: yep had a space below and above all the images http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/636425/
[17:27] <fagan> Oh I figured it out
[17:27] <fagan> I needed to move the image block a space in
[17:27] <mandel> dobey: sorry maybe by descriptions sucks
[17:27] <ralsina> fagan more likely 3 spaces
[17:28] <ralsina> fagan: why are your items indented one space?????
[17:28] <mandel> dobey: on u1client we want to be able to add a rule that will block a branch we you are using open instead of open_file
[17:28] <ralsina> items go flush left. If you indent a block, it's a quote.
[17:28] <mandel> dobey: like a new pylint rule
[17:29] <dobey> mandel: i don't think that belongs in pylint. and there isn't really any way for us to do that in devtools
[17:29] <fagan> ralsina: oh I didnt know I should indent more. Wont take too much to fix I suppose. Anyway thanks :)
[17:29] <ralsina> fagan: no, listen to me.
[17:29] <dobey> [dobey@lunatari:~]: pydoc open_file
[17:29] <dobey> no Python documentation found for 'open_file'
[17:29] <dobey> mandel: what is open_file?
[17:29] <ralsina> fagan: you fixed it indenting one space because all the rest of the file is indented wrong.
[17:30] <fagan> ralsina: yeah I got that I was saying that ill go indent everything with 3
[17:30] <ralsina> fagan: NO
[17:30] <ralsina> fagan: your items should not be indented at all.
[17:30] <fagan> ralsina: ooooh
[17:31] <ralsina> fagan: please go read the restructured text quickstart :-(
[17:31] <mandel> dobey: is a wrapper around open that ensures that u1client always uses the b mode unless explecitly told othrwise
[17:31] <ralsina> fagan: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/user/rst/quickstart.html
[17:31] <fagan> ralsina: i did but skipped over the style and went right to the syntax
[17:32] <ralsina> fagan: This*IS* syntax
[17:32] <ralsina> fagan: specifically, an indented block is the syntax for a block quote
[17:32] <ralsina> So all your section is inside a block quote
[17:32] <dobey> mandel: hrmm, i am not sure there is any good way to do that :(
[17:33] <ralsina> fagan: Also, if you want the image to be part of the item, it has to be indented in. If it's outside the list, it's not indented. That is the list syntax.
[17:33] <ralsina> fagan: so, read it please instead of arguing, please mmmmkay?  It's short and clear ;-)
[17:34] <mandel> dobey: we can put it as a wishlist item and hen think about the best approach later
[17:34] <fagan> ralsina: wasnt really agruing just interperated what you said wrong
[17:34] <fagan> ralsina: its cool and wont take that long to fix
[17:34] <mandel> dobey: the idea is that in te future we would like to enfore certain rules so that new patches r changes do not brake multiplatform
[17:34] <fagan> ralsina: thanks
[17:34] <nessita> Chipaca, mandel: I repeat my question from before, I missed the answers (if there were any): can I nuke https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Contribute/WindowsTesting and replace that with the current one + tweaks?
[17:34] <dobey> mandel: i get the idea, but i can't think of any good/easy way to do that
[17:35] <mandel> nessita: sorry I though I answered, I'd say go for it
[17:35] <Chipaca> nessita: NUKE!
[17:35] <mandel> dobey: yeah.. is a hard thing to do...
[17:37] <ralsina> Gotta go to the bank and lunch, so will be gone for a while...
[17:44] <Chipaca> nessita: DiegoSarmentero seems to be afk. I'll be online tonight late my time, hopefully in time to give him a hand.
[17:50] <DiegoSarmentero> Chipaca, i'm here
[17:50] <DiegoSarmentero> Chipaca, i was having lunch
[17:57]  * mandel EOD
[17:58] <mandel> everyone have a great weekend!!!
[17:58] <dobey> mandel: that's what she said! :)
[18:02] <fagan> dobey: that was a knee slapper
[18:06] <mun> hi
[18:06] <mun>  i'm having a problem with ubuntu one: i keep getting an error saying "file sync error. (auth failed (AUTH_FAILED))". My username and password are correct because I can get in through the web interface. does anyone know what's wrong?
[18:08] <mun> i can't find syncdaemon.log under .config/ubuntuone because the folder is empty.
[18:08] <alecu> mun, it should be ".cache/ubuntuone/log", not ".config..."
[18:12] <dobey> as alecu said, logs are under .cache, not .config
[18:13] <dobey> hrmm, python test coverage thing is confusing. how do i tell what it's saying is not being checked?
[18:15] <mun> oh right
[18:24] <nessita> mandel: ping
[18:25] <dobey> ah
[18:25] <dobey> nessita: he just left
[18:25] <nessita> dobey: right, thanks
[18:25] <dobey> hrmm, "python-coverage report' isn't especially helpful either
[18:27] <dobey> hrmm, and how do i put something on the system bus.
[18:31] <alecu> dobey, you got to stop it first: http://urlitzer.org/
[18:31]  * alecu hides
[18:31] <dobey> eh
[19:05] <nessita> DiegoSarmentero: I've moved the wiki page to the public wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Contribute/WindowsTesting. I'm improving it, please let me know if something is wrong/missing while you use it
[19:06] <DiegoSarmentero> nessita, ok!
[19:06] <nessita> I need to reboot now
[19:06] <nessita> brb!
[19:08] <dobey> sigh. dbus is such a pain
[19:11] <ralsina> nessita: quick question. We had decided that if the control panel doesn't have the credentials, it will start the wizard, right?
[19:12] <nessita> ralsina: yes, we didn't find any complications at the time
[19:12] <nessita> (but we never actually implemented it -yet-)
[19:12] <ralsina> nessita: cool. When I was at the bank I starte thinking about how the default SSO UI is different :-)
[19:12] <nessita> ralsina: how?
[19:13] <ralsina> nessita: well, the texts don't match our wireframes, it doesn't show exactly the same buttons, and so on
[19:13] <ralsina> I am overriding some things on the wizard, and I would have to move them to sso
[19:14] <nessita> ralsina: ralsinaare those configurable?
[19:14] <ralsina> nessita: yes
[19:14] <nessita> ralsina: from the installer?
[19:14] <ralsina> nessita: but it's a lot of detail work
[19:14] <ralsina> nessita: yep
[19:14] <ralsina> SSO client is pretty flexible
[19:14] <nessita> ralsina: ok, I'll guess when we show what we have to design, we'll ask about this
[19:15] <nessita> ralsina: it should be early next week
[19:15] <ralsina> We could plug completely different UI files if we wanted
[19:15] <nessita> (~Wed)
[19:15] <ralsina> yeah, I expect to have the wizard complete for monday
[19:15] <nessita> great
[19:15] <ralsina> I have lost too much time not coding (but doing important stuff) today :-(
[19:16]  * nessita too
[19:18] <nessita> alecu: you running natty up to date?
[19:21] <dobey> oh
[19:29] <nessita> anyone running natty: what does uname -a gives you?
[19:30] <dobey> the expected results. what are you looking for specifically?
[19:33] <nessita> dobey: kernel version
[19:34] <dobey> uname -r is the option for just that then :)
[19:34] <dobey> 2.6.38-9-generic
[19:34] <dobey> is what i have
[19:34] <dobey> but that's what i'm running currently anyway
[19:34] <dobey>   Candidate: 2.6.38.10.25
[19:34] <dobey> is what the latest is i guess
[19:36] <nessita> dobey: weird, my package manager is reporting
[19:36] <nessita> --\ Obsolete and Locally Created Packages (6)
[19:36] <nessita>   --\ admin - Administrative utilities (install software, manage users, etc) (2)
[19:36] <nessita>     --\ main - Fully supported Free Software. (2)
[19:36] <nessita> i     linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic                                       2.6.38-10. <none>
[19:36] <nessita> i     linux-image-2.6.38-9-generic                                        2.6.38-9.4 <none>
[19:38] <nessita> I guess that since I had natty-proposed enabled for a while, my system went nuts
[19:39] <dobey> hmm, i have proposed enabled though
[19:39] <dobey> and 2.6.38.10.25 is in proposed right now
[19:43] <alecu> nessita, 2.6.38-8-generic
[19:43] <nessita> alecu: thanks
[19:43] <nessita> dobey: yeah, I have installed everything from proposed a while ago and then disabled the repo
[19:47] <dobey> ah
[20:10] <nessita> Chipaca: you back!!! thanks
[20:10] <nessita> (well, you VM is back, which for now is all that matters :-P)
[20:12] <nessita> Chipaca: no-hurry-ping
[20:19] <Chipaca> nessita: my internets went tits up for a little while
[20:19] <Chipaca> nessita: laid-back-pong
[20:20] <nessita> Chipaca: do you have resources (ie disk space, cpu power) to run another VM? I would like a copy of the existing w7 but in its initial state, so I can review all the instructions from the cleaned up page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Contribute/WindowsTesting
[20:21] <Chipaca> nessita: I do
[20:21] <Chipaca> nessita: now?
[20:21] <nessita> is there any chance you setup up this extra vm soon?
[20:21] <nessita> ideally, yes
[20:24] <Chipaca> nessita: try :3, tell me if that's the right one or if i should go further back in time
[20:26] <nessita> ack
[20:27] <nessita> Chipaca: seems right, but the mouse is crazy, you need to apply the crazy setting for it :-)
[20:28] <Chipaca> nessita: turn off acceleration. gimme a sec.
[20:28] <ralsina> nessita chipaca: just so you see I am not idle, just quiet: http://screencast.com/t/RSPMRhv6
[20:29] <nessita> ralsina: good work! is it intentional that 'at least 8 caracters' is green and the rest red?
[20:29] <ralsina> nessita: of course
[20:29] <ralsina> nessita: it's in the mockup :-)
[20:29] <nessita> that's odd
[20:29] <nessita> ralsina: it makes no sense
[20:29] <ralsina> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sso-client/+bug/804344/+attachment/2186606/+files/sing-up-mockup.png
[20:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 804344 in ubuntu-sso-client "Sign Up page cleanup (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[20:30] <ralsina> nessita: yes it does. It goes green when there *are* 8 characters
[20:30] <nessita> ah.... tricky. I couldn't see that from the screenshot, sorry
[20:30] <ralsina> Ok, so it should be a green tick instead of a green line ;-)
[20:30] <nessita> right!
[20:31] <ralsina> What I am not doing now because it's much harder than I expected is the arrow-shape for the assistance widget
[20:31] <ralsina> And it drives me nuts that the captcha is wider than the other things, but that's not fixable
[20:32] <nessita> ralsina: captcha size is fixed and will always have the same size
[20:33] <ralsina> nessita: exactly. I could resize the image clientside but it's gross
[20:35] <nessita> ralsina: no no, please
[20:35] <nessita> ralsina: the design should be made around the captcha size
[20:35] <ralsina> they are hard enough already :-)
[20:35] <ralsina> Yes, I can do that
[20:36] <ralsina> anyone kow the exact size of a recaptcha?
[20:37] <nessita> ralsina: just download one and see
[20:37] <ralsina> yeah
[20:37] <nessita> Chipaca: you let me know when "turn off acceleration" is ready?
[20:38] <Chipaca> nessita: done, sorry
[20:39] <nessita> Chipaca: thanks!
[20:40] <ralsina> nessita: there, much nicer: http://screencast.com/t/8cx3dmZIy8NI
[20:40] <nessita> ralsina: what if the suer has other font size?
[20:40] <nessita> boom!
[20:40] <nessita> :-)
[20:40] <nessita> or other screen resolution?
[20:40] <ralsina> nessita: it adjusts gracefully
[20:41] <nessita> oh, that's great
[20:41] <nessita> how are you resizing?
[20:41] <ralsina> That is, the recaptcha stays the same size, everything else gets bigger
[20:41] <ralsina> nessita: I am not, Qt does it
[20:41] <nessita> oh that's nice
[20:41] <ralsina> let me show you a demo with silly font sizes
[20:42] <dobey> 7pt?
[20:42] <ralsina> dobey, no, 28pt http://screencast.com/t/waDErFn05y
[20:43] <ralsina> dobey: and here is is with 6pt: http://screencast.com/t/YfkFGPlZU
[20:43] <dobey> man, font rendering is blurry on windows
[20:44] <nessita> ralsina: the text next to teh captcha should resize with the rest, right? any idea why is not happening?
[20:44] <ralsina> nessita: over-specified html
[20:44] <ralsina> fixing it now :-)
[20:44] <nessita> great
[20:44] <nessita> By signing up you agree blah blah?
[20:44] <nessita> lol
[20:44] <nessita> ralsina: typo "Shw terms"
[20:45] <nessita> (for later)
[20:45] <ralsina> nessita: placeholder texts for designer, when you run the real thing it has the right texts (see first capture)
[20:45] <ralsina> it also says "you agree blah blah" ;-)
[20:45] <nessita> oh
[20:53] <nessita> Chipaca: can I shutdown the VM and make what we have now the default "0 state"?
[20:53] <nessita> ( it has FF and some setting tweaked)
[21:00] <Chipaca> nessita: didn't follow your question, there
[21:00] <Chipaca> nessita: what we have now where exactly?
[21:01] <Chipaca> nessita: I can't save this VM in situ unless you're willing to throw away the other one. I can save this vm to a different place, probably
[21:01] <nessita> Chipaca: the VM you just setup (:3), is in a state that we can call "clean" but usable (the state you used to start this one had no firefox in it and crazy mouse). So, I was wondering
[21:02] <Chipaca> nessita: ah. But you don't want the other one to magically depend on this one. Gotcha. Gimme a sec.
[21:02]  * alecu needs to go to pick up Amelia, and do some shopping.
[21:02] <alecu> bbl
[21:02] <nessita> if I shutdown this VM, can we tag the current state as "clea:"
[21:02] <nessita> Chipaca: sure!
[21:02] <Chipaca> nessita: if you shut it down, it's gone. I can commit its state now.
[21:03] <Chipaca> ah. No, I can't.
[21:03] <nessita> Chipaca: please do then! I don\ t loose what we have in :1, right?
[21:03] <Chipaca> Neoti: see, I lie to you.
[21:03] <nessita> Chipaca: stop lying to people we don't know
[21:03] <Chipaca> yeah, i do that a lot
[21:04] <nessita> Chipaca: ok, is ok, we can always install FF and do the mouse setup. Let's no worry
[21:04] <nessita> Chipaca: I did not loose :1, right?
[21:04] <Chipaca> nessita: correct
[21:05] <Chipaca> nessita: i can create a new disc (instead of lazyly running with -snapshot), redo these changes, and commit that
[21:05] <nessita> Chipaca: naaaaah
[21:05] <nessita> not for now, at least
[21:05] <XGaryG> I installed Ububtu a few days ago. I enabled 'Ububtu One' shortly after installing. So far it has not worked.
[21:05] <nessita> Chipaca: but all the changes I do to :3 will not override the "clean" state?
[21:06] <nessita> XGaryG: what Ubuntu version?
[21:06] <XGaryG> The current, with all updates.
[21:07] <nessita> XGaryG: so, how can you tell is not working? I mean, I would like to know if you get crashes or anything to help you diagnose
[21:07] <XGaryG> Linux XGaryG 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:08] <XGaryG> I start Ubuntu One, and press the link to visit the Ubuntu One website to set things up.
[21:09] <XGaryG> It says sorry there.
[21:09] <nessita> XGaryG: you don't need to visit any web site to setup Ubuntu One. YOu can either click in "I already have an account" if you already have a Ubuntu SIngle Sign on account, or
[21:10] <nessita> you can click on "Join now" to create a new account
[21:10] <nessita> XGaryG: do you have those buttons?
[21:10] <XGaryG> It says Welcome Gary, but then:  Our Notes, Contacts and Bookmarks database is not responding at the moment.
[21:11] <nessita> XGaryG: that is the web site, not the desktop application, right?
[21:11] <XGaryG> The application appears to be fine.
[21:11] <nessita> XGaryG: what do you get if you navigate https://one.ubuntu.com/files/
[21:12] <XGaryG> It gives me this screen:  Let’s get started with syncing your files!
[21:13] <nessita> XGaryG: right, so is working, but you have no files in UBuntu One
[21:13] <XGaryG> I enabled syncing contacts and bookmarks.
[21:14] <XGaryG> Should they be there?
[21:14] <nessita> XGaryG: only if you have contacts in evolution, and bookmarks in firefox. But our syncing with firefox 5 is not working at the moment, as far as I know
[21:14] <nessita> ralsina: ping
[21:14] <ralsina> nessita: pong
[21:15] <nessita> ralsina: is our bindwood plugin working with FF5?
[21:15] <dobey> no
[21:15] <ralsina> nessita: no
[21:15] <nessita> thanks
[21:15] <dobey> :-/
[21:15] <thisfred> nessita: also desktopcouch replication is disabled for a significant part of the users
[21:15] <nessita> thisfred: any idea why? and is that natty or oneiric?
[21:16] <thisfred> nessita: because ops turned it off, and that's on all platforms, it's everyone who is on the beautyberry shard\
[21:16] <nessita> thisfred: was not aware of that. I feel like this w dev is consuming all of me.
[21:16] <nessita> Wait, no, is not a feeling, is True! :-P
[21:16] <thisfred> I know
[21:17] <nessita> thisfred: thanks for the info. ANy ETA on having that working?
[21:17] <thisfred> Not for much longer, hopefully
[21:17] <thisfred> I'll ask
[21:17] <nessita> thanks
[21:17] <dobey> well, that and the microbials
[21:17] <dobey> damn things are everywhere, and eat everything! :)
[21:18] <nessita> dobey: my current tasks are making me dumber, so you if that was a joke I didn't get it :-)
[21:18] <dobey> nessita: it was a very bad science joke :)
[21:19]  * nessita lol's as a cortesy, but she still does not get it :-P
[21:20] <dobey> nessita: microbes are creatures too small to see without a microscope, and they are all over, and inside, you :)
[21:20] <nessita> ah, je :-)
[21:22] <Chipaca> nessita: correct, all the changes you do to :3 will disappear when you power down
[21:23] <nessita> Chipaca: oh. Is there any way not to loose the changes? And, not to loose a clean VM?
[21:23]  * nessita asks, total es gratis
[21:23] <Chipaca> nessita: i thought there was, but apparently not. Unless the help is out of date :)
[21:23] <Chipaca> help commit
[21:23] <Chipaca> commit device|all -- commit changes to the disk images (if -snapshot is used) or backing files
[21:24] <Chipaca> so I can't commit to a different backing file
[21:24] <Chipaca> which sounds very silly, but oh well
[21:24] <nessita> Chipaca: no problem, let's use this VM as a test for the instructions. But can I reboot it without loosing changes?
[21:25] <thisfred> nessita: it is not clear when that server will be opened up again, but there are plans for working on it next week
[21:26] <Chipaca> nessita: correct
[21:27] <nessita> Chipaca: great
[21:30] <Neoti> Chipace: huh lying to me...
[21:38] <thisfred> Neoti: ignore him, he keeps meaning to talk to nessita and then fumbling the autocomplete
[21:38] <thisfred> it's so hard to get good staff :P
[21:38]  * thisfred hides
[21:38] <nessita> :-)
[21:38] <Neoti> lolz
[21:39]  * ralsina is on test number 17 for a fracking form. But that's ok!
[21:52] <dobey> alright all, see you on tuesday. have a good weekend! :)
[21:52] <thisfred> you too dobey
[21:53] <thisfred> ralsina: nessita. anyone need a review, now or in the next 30 minutes? If not, I think I'm gonna declare beer o'clock here too...
[21:54] <nessita> thisfred: not in this end, thanks a lot
[21:54] <ralsina> thisfred: not me, thanks anyway!
[21:55] <nessita> Chipaca: please tell your internet to behave :-)
[21:55] <thisfred> ok, have a nice weekend people! Let me know if there's anything I can help with later, I'll check my mail. If not, see you on X-day (next tuesday, for normals) ;)
[22:22] <ralsina> If anyone is still around... https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-windows-installer/fix_804352/+merge/66663
[22:32] <thisfred> on it
[22:32] <thisfred> just in time, haven't had my first sip of beer yet :)
[22:33] <ralsina> thisfred: it's a windows review :-(
[22:33] <ralsina> I don't want to lead you to drink too much :-)
[22:33] <thisfred> yeah, just saw that. I'll do a code-only review but it will need another :)
[22:34] <ralsina> you can also look at the pretty pictures ;-)
[22:35] <nessita> ralsina: I've been reviewing the wiki instructions so DiegoSarmentero can setup his env, I now i need to run to yoga
[22:35] <nessita> DiegoSarmentero: I've just verified IRL (in real life) setup instructions up to "ubuntu sso client" (included)
[22:36] <ralsina> nessita: good! Have fun!
[22:36] <nessita> DiegoSarmentero: when I come back from yoga, I will try to verify the rest of the instructions. But you have lots of do till then :-)
[22:36] <nessita> DiegoSarmentero: also, you can ping alecu-away, he will be around later (very likely)
[22:36] <nessita> ralsina, alecu-away: latest setup instructions are https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Contribute/WindowsTesting
[22:37] <ralsina> nessita: thx, bookmarking :-)
[22:37] <thisfred> ralsina: code looks great
[22:37] <nessita> with direct links to downloads and all
[22:37] <nessita> ok, I gotta go, for now at least
[22:37]  * thisfred takes first sip
[22:37] <ralsina> thisfred: whoa, I never hear that. I should ask more reviews from you :-)
[22:37] <thisfred> derp
[22:38] <thisfred> ralsina: maybe you're improving because of all the relentless criticism'? :) *hiccup*
[22:38] <ralsina> I know I took care of the style issues that were killing me yesterday at least
[22:38] <nessita> thisfred: I'm still reading, you know
[22:38] <thisfred> I assure you I can be quite fussy
[22:38] <ralsina> And I wrote a boatload of tests
[22:38] <DiegoSarmentero> nessita: i will start setting up the environment now
[22:39] <DiegoSarmentero> nessita: thanks!
[22:39] <thisfred> nessita:  I never say anything bad about anyone, you know that :)
[22:40] <thisfred> I think thorough ruthless reviews are an asset!
[22:41] <nessita> thisfred: :-)
[22:41] <nessita> DiegoSarmentero: do not believe anything that anyone says about me
[22:41] <nessita> :-P
[22:41] <DiegoSarmentero> jejeje
[22:42] <nessita> though Dow
[22:42] <nessita> ioops
[22:42] <nessita> though DiegoSarmentero already knows I'm test-freaky
[22:42] <nessita> so, no news there
[22:42] <ralsina> nessita: this branch has 13 new tests, just for you ;-)
[22:42] <nessita> ralsina: THANKS
[23:41] <ryoohki> is there any plans for future machine instances?  i would like to run irssi in the cloud using screen and reconnect to it betwen boots. there are also other things like a running instance of the chrome browser i would like to connect to after rebooting
[23:46] <JanC> hm, will Echoprint support be integrated into the U1MS ?  (I saw 7Digital supports that project? :) )
[23:48] <karni> ryoohki: No such things are planned. We're currently storage/data oriented.
[23:50] <alecu> DiegoSarmentero, hola!
[23:50] <DiegoSarmentero> alecu: buenas
[23:51] <alecu> DiegoSarmentero, how
[23:51] <alecu> DiegoSarmentero, how's it going?
[23:51] <alecu> DiegoSarmentero, let me know if I can be of any help.
[23:51] <DiegoSarmentero> alecu, fine... yes, thanks! In this moment I'm just installing things :P
[23:53] <alecu> DiegoSarmentero, are you using win7 in bare metal or in a vm?
[23:53] <DiegoSarmentero> WinXP in VM... the wiki says that XP and 7 are supported
[23:55] <DiegoSarmentero> alecu, should I use Win7?
[23:56] <alecu> DiegoSarmentero, xp should be fine. We've been using 7 lately, because there was a bug with xp in a twisted reactor we *were* using, but we've reverted to another reactor that should work fine on xp.
[23:56] <alecu> DiegoSarmentero, if there's any problem with this one we'll be able to iron it out with your install :-)
[23:57] <DiegoSarmentero> alecu, jejeje not so good for me :P
[23:57] <alecu> nahh... it will work :-)