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| dgroos | Good evening/morning alkisg. | 04:07 |
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| alkisg | Hi dgroos, how are you? | 04:07 |
| dgroos | Pretty early for you? | 04:07 |
| dgroos | Good :) and you? | 04:08 |
| dgroos | 6:00 AM? | 04:08 |
| alkisg | Yeah my wife was leaving on a trip and I woke up to say bb :) | 04:08 |
| dgroos | Nice. | 04:08 |
| dgroos | I've got a quick question-- are you planning on running natty in your classrooms next year or 10.04? | 04:09 |
| alkisg | Here, teachers support the computer labs. So we need something stable, and with known problems/workarounds. So we're sticking to LTS releases... | 04:10 |
| alkisg | We also have a PPA in case some backports are needed, which are not provided officially by ubuntu | 04:11 |
| alkisg | If I were to use 10.04, I'd use 11.10 instead, even on beta, it would have a cleaner upgrade path to LTS | 04:11 |
| dgroos | OK, that was the sense I had gotten from you--that there is nothing ultra-compelling about natty. | 04:11 |
| alkisg | (ah forgot here schools open on September, close to oneiric release) | 04:12 |
| alkisg | It depends on people's needs. But here most labs won't even run Unity-3D | 04:12 |
| dgroos | here too. | 04:12 |
| dgroos | and Unity-3D doesn't do much on fat clients I'd guess? | 04:13 |
| alkisg | So the only changes visible to teachers, would be firefox 4 instead of 3.6 and libreoffice instead of openoffice | 04:13 |
| alkisg | It would work like if locally installed, i.e. on cards that support 3D | 04:13 |
| dgroos | OK--still working on defining the boundaries of fat clients. | 04:14 |
| dgroos | Can one put ff 4 on the LTS? | 04:14 |
| alkisg | Also in newer versions package "prism" was dropped, and we need that for our edu apps. That would be another drawback to use >= 11.04. We'll try to upgrade our edu packages for 12.04, to use something else instead of prism. | 04:14 |
| alkisg | I think so. But it breaks some extensions from the repositories. | 04:15 |
| alkisg | Also LTS releases get newer kernels more easily | 04:15 |
| alkisg | For each version of ubuntu, its kernel is backported to the last LTS release | 04:15 |
| alkisg | So very new labs with sandy bridge will eventually work well on lucid, but not on natty | 04:16 |
| dgroos | That's a big advantage of LTS I hadn't known. | 04:17 |
| alkisg | Of course you can use a kernel ppa on 11.04 and get a newer kernel. It's just not supported officially. | 04:17 |
| dgroos | OK, I'm headed to bed soon but I've wanted to ask your thoughts on that for a while... | 04:18 |
| dgroos | thanks. | 04:18 |
| dgroos | Have a great day! | 04:18 |
| alkisg | You're welcome - but remember those are just my thoughts | 04:18 |
| alkisg | Don't rely on them too much, see your own needs | 04:18 |
| alkisg | Good night :) | 04:19 |
| rhce7320 | I have use the online upgrade to upgrade 8.04 to 10, but have ended up with a bricken pxe boot. My experience is freebsd/Centos, so I'm progressing slowly. Has somebody had experience in debugging tftp error code 2 (access violation in wireshark)? | 11:22 |
| rhce7320 | In wireshark, I see a successful DHCP dialogue, a successful arp (server gets client mac), tftp read request, tftp error, sucessful arp (client gets server mac). | 11:25 |
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| stgraber | highvoltage: doh, edubuntu-live got automatically demoted to universe | 23:04 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: thereby breaking the translation import | 23:04 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: so alpha-2 will be shipping without translations for the edubuntu-specific installer steps (again) | 23:04 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: I poked cjwatson so it gets moved back to main and added to whatever list it should be on to avoid another demotion | 23:05 |
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