[00:00] <James147> ubuntu__: and to launch a gui app as root use kdesudo
[00:00] <iDanielSan> does some1 have experience with the Startup disk creator?
[00:01] <areichman> PythonSnake: can I use dvd::rip to take an iso file, select certain titles and rip/compress them to a variety of formats?
[00:01] <James147> !ask | iDanielSan
[00:01] <ubuntu__> James147: grr gparted won't let me delete an HFS partition
[00:01] <ubuntu__> surely there is a way to nuke this disk
[00:01] <James147> ubuntu__: try fdisk ^^ :)
[00:02] <PythonSnake> areichman: never tried it.
[00:02] <PythonSnake> areichman: here is a link that can fix your problem http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/311331-How-to-fix-audio-out-of-sync-in-a-DVD-without-any-reconverting .
[00:02] <James147> ubuntu__: its like cfdisk, but less interactive and much more useful and likly to work
[00:03] <ubuntu__> James147: it didn't even see the hfs+ partition
[00:03] <areichman> PythonSnake: I saw that link, unfortunately that's for the dvd itself, which works great for me. It's the transcoded file that's out of sync :-(
[00:03] <areichman> oh wlel, I'll try a few more things
[00:03] <areichman> thanks for your help
[00:03] <iDanielSan> fine. just tried to do a bootable usb stick with the startup disk crator. can't make the iso image my source
[00:04] <ubuntu__> James147: installing hfsutils and seeing if gparted picks up on that
[00:05] <James147> iDanielSan: iso image of kubuntu right? (or a ubutnu varient)
[00:05] <iDanielSan> no it's puppy
[00:05] <PythonSnake> areichman: maybe set fps manually
[00:06] <James147> iDanielSan: I think usb-creator only works with *ubuntu... though I could be wrong. Try unetbootin its works with almost everything
[00:06] <fro> i think i killed dpkg
[00:06] <iDanielSan> thy James
[00:06] <iDanielSan> thx
[00:08] <PythonSnake> areichman: you can try SMPlayer to sync it
[00:08] <PythonSnake> by using the + and - keys
[00:10] <James147> !details | fro
[00:11] <ubuntu__> mkfs.ext3 -L "data" /dev/sdc1 must take a few minutes?
[00:12] <fro> ok iam running 11.4 just installed it run n apt-get update kde crashed on me while update running in background had to reboot logged back in now iam getting a E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[00:12] <ubuntu__> i figured it would be seconds
[00:13] <James147> fro: have you tryed the suggested?
[00:13] <ubuntu__> can cp give me a progress bar or am I just dreaming :)
[00:14] <James147> ubuntu__: -v will tell you what its copying atm
[00:14] <ubuntu__> hehe yeah its one file 44GB
[00:14] <fro> james147 yes
[00:14] <fro> it doesnt seem to work but iam stupid ;P
[00:14] <ubuntu__> i will use du -h
[00:15] <James147> ubuntu__: i like rsync -P  for that... it gives you a progress per file and if you stop and start it again it will continue
[00:15] <James147> fro: what does running the suggest command tell you?
[00:15] <James147> !pastebin | fro
[00:16] <fro> thanks ill play a little bit more n try n work it out
[00:19] <ubuntu__> getting input/output error to the drive... wtf
[00:20] <PythonSnake> hi m4v
[00:22] <ubuntu__> I think this file system is barfing on the big file
[00:23] <ubuntu__> 44GB file too big for ext2 maybe?
[00:25] <James147> ubuntu__: think it depends on the block size
[00:25] <ubuntu__> perhaps
[00:25] <James147> ^^ at least accoring to wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext2#File_system_limits :)
[00:26] <ubuntu__> i wonder if fsck tells me that
[00:26] <James147>     /sbin/dumpe2fs /dev/hda2 | grep 'Block size'
[00:28] <ubuntu__> whatever that's doing its taking too long :)
[00:28] <James147> didnt for me :S
[00:28] <ubuntu__> maybe its because I am copying from same drive
[00:30] <ubuntu__> 4096
[00:31] <James147> ubuntu__: then according to wikipedia you can have up to 2TB
[00:31] <ubuntu__> yes but it also says that some userspace programs can't handle over 2GB
[00:31] <ubuntu__> funny that would be cp though
[00:31] <James147> ubuntu__: yeah, try rsync
[00:32] <ubuntu__> i did same issue
[00:32] <ubuntu__> and scp also
[00:32] <ubuntu__> i just copied the individual files
[00:32] <James147> ^^ though I think cp can handle larger files then 2gb... sware I have move bigger files then that before, though never 44g
[00:32] <ubuntu__> well its still copying right now
[00:32] <ubuntu__> 44g is kinda insane
[00:32] <James147> it is
[00:33] <ubuntu__> it was a tarball of part of my photo archive
[00:33] <ubuntu__> which is RAW images
[00:33] <James147> :)
[00:33] <ubuntu__> 25 megapixels each
[00:34] <ubuntu__> im glad i checked this file system before installing linux on it
[00:34] <ubuntu__> i thought these files were gone
[00:37] <ubuntu__> This is my first time back in linux in a while
[00:37] <ubuntu__> I've been runing win7/mac for about a 2 years now
[00:48] <hays_> off I go to install kubuntu
[01:13] <ubuntu__> is it normal for kubuntu install to be stuck at 18%?
[01:13] <ubuntu__> should I just abort and start over?  reboot?
[01:14] <areichman> ubuntu__: I've seen it before and just had to give it a loooong time
[01:14] <ubuntu__> ?? what's it doing?
[01:14] <areichman> I have no idea
[01:14] <ubuntu__> the hdd light is on
[01:14] <ubuntu__> well ok I will go leave it afk then
[01:14] <areichman> is it partitioning a drive?
[01:14] <ubuntu__> well perhaps though I thought it did that already
[01:15] <ubuntu__> maybe not though
[01:15] <ubuntu__> it says "copying files"
[01:15] <ubuntu__> but maybe its partitioning my drive
[01:15] <areichman> interesting. I would let it go
[01:15] <ubuntu__> ok
[01:17] <Guest74449> am besten das andere cd laufwerk nehmen, oder von usb stick installieren..
[01:21] <lcb> hãn? :o
[01:38] <Guest74449>  
[03:08] <jordan__> i have a question where are the theme files store at for icons?
[03:15] <James147> jordan__: /usr/share/icons or ~/.local/share/icons
[03:15] <James147> possibally ~/.icons :p
[03:15] <jordan__> well thats a problem
[03:16] <James147> jordan__: why?
[03:16] <jordan__> ccause the icon im looking itsnt there
[03:16] <James147> jordan__: what are you looking for?
[03:16] <jordan__> im using the MIB theme
[03:16] <jordan__> kfind cant even find it
[03:16] <jordan__> but the folder icon is someone cause the theme is working
[03:17] <James147> jordan__: in kfind are you using wild cards in your search ? (ie *MIB*  ?? )
[03:17] <jordan__> im wondering where are the theme packages are ostored at
[03:17] <jordan__> james i dont know
[03:18] <jordan__> im using kfind through dolphin
[03:18] <jordan__> it doesnt pop up anymore
[03:18] <jordan__> so what ever the default setting is im using
[03:18] <James147> jordan__: then your not using kfind ^^
[03:19] <jordan__> oh
[03:19] <jordan__> i didnt know what
[03:19] <James147> ^^ as far as I know thats the nepomuk search tool that has been intergrated into dolphin
[03:19] <jordan__> ok
[03:19] <jordan__> thats what im using
[03:20] <jordan__> i feel silly now since the mepomuk icon appears to the right
[03:20] <jordan__> nepomuk
[03:21] <jordan__> The theme im using doesnt have a game icon
[03:21] <jordan__> so im going to make one for it
[03:26] <jordan__> james147, is there a specify place where a theme file is located?
[03:26] <jordan__> cause you can flip to different theme
[03:27] <jordan__> it just doesnt unpack all the png then disappears?
[03:31] <jordan__> k i found them
[03:32] <jordan__> james thanks for the help
[03:32] <jordan__> i search for a different theme in kfind
[03:32] <jordan__> it found Hycons
[03:32] <jordan__> their in .kde/share/icons
[03:35] <LaserJock> could somebody give me a ping real quick, I'm trying to test some notifications
[03:51] <frogonwheels> larsivi: ping
[03:51] <frogonwheels> larsivi: sorry.
[04:26] <kiki__> stop
[04:28] <kiki__> anyone ??
[07:42] <inference> hi, i recently installed 10.04, and the installation hung on "Running dpkg"
[07:42] <inference> i rebooted, and the system appeared to run fine
[07:43] <inference> but when i run aptitude.. it has about 300 language packs that are missing dependencies
[07:49] <Snowhog> inference: Run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f    Repeat until no more packages are identified to be installed/upgraded.
[07:49] <inference> yeah.. i've been doing that..
[07:50] <inference> i've hit enter about 10,000 times
[07:50] <inference> all it's getting are these language packs i do not need
[07:54] <Apple_Cat> if you get sick of pressing y, you can always use aptitude -y
[08:18] <evoain> I need help on how to use this irc
[08:20] <inference> evoain: what do you want to know?
[08:20] <evoain> shortcuts
[08:21] <inference> for quassel or something?
[08:21] <evoain> basic ones. Like joining, registering and others...
[08:22] <inference> oh, say "/join #channel"
[08:22] <inference> where channel is the name
[08:22] <inference> like.. /join #reddit
[08:23] <inference> start typing someone's nick and then hit 'tab' to complete it
[08:23] <inference> say /msg nickname to message ppl
[08:23] <inference> to register.. try saying /msg NickServ help commands
[08:24] <inference> has lots of good stuff
[08:25] <evoain> inference: How do I register a new user name?
[08:27] <inference> say:    /msg NickServ REGISTER <password> <e-mail-address>
[08:28] <evoain> inference: Thank you buddy
[08:29] <evoain> hold on
[08:29] <evoain> where do i type user name?
[08:30] <inference> it registers the username you are using
[08:30] <evoain> and for another user name...?
[08:30] <inference> hmm.. i remember something about associating nicks
[08:30] <inference> lemme look
[08:31] <Unit193> inference: You can group them
[08:31] <Unit193> You have to change to that nick
[08:31] <evoain> Unit193:  How?
[08:31] <Unit193>  /nick Username
[08:31] <inference> oh, say /nick <new name>
[08:32] <evoain> inference: Unit193: Thanks a lot guys
[08:32] <Unit193> inference: You did all the work and I still get some thanks ;)
[08:33] <inference> cool beans
[08:33] <inference> im bored.. like.. starving for interaction while pressing enter relentlessly on this retarded apt-get -f install process
[08:34] <inference> now it's doing nothing
[08:34] <Unit193> apt-get -f install -y ?
[08:34] <inference> just repeating Media change: please insert the disc labeled Kubuntu.. in the drive /cdrom/ and press enter.
[08:35] <Unit193> Hmmm... Sounds like you have the CD still in the sources.list
[08:35] <inference> dependencies are all screwed up
[08:36] <inference> whenever i try to run apt-get install anything... it tells me that about 200 language packs i don't need are missing dependencies
[08:37] <inference> so i ran apt-get update && apt-get -f install
[09:14] <computer_> is there a website search engine that is open source based
[09:15] <valorie> htdig
[09:15] <valorie> maybe others
[09:15] <svaksha> xapian
[09:16] <computer_> do u have a list?
[09:16] <svaksha> xapian engine is used by debian on your local desktop search too
[09:16] <valorie> I bet google does
[09:16] <valorie> "open source website search engine"
[09:16] <svaksha> computer_: wikipedia
[09:17] <svaksha> has a list
[09:17] <computer_> open source with no filters
[09:19] <computer_> i will try xapian, thanks all
[09:26] <computer_> i want to be able to search the web using a search engine that is open source and does not filter anything? anyone?
[09:27] <computer_> i dont think xapian is exactly what i was looking for
[09:45] <valorie> searching the web is an entirely different proposition
[09:45] <valorie> web search means running huge servers, spidering, enormous databases, etc.
[09:46] <valorie> Google runs on linux
[09:46] <valorie> but you'll never find an open source resource like that, IMO
[09:46] <valorie> it costs entirely too much
[10:11] <josecandido> Hi
[10:28] <disse> hey guys, the last days was an flashplugin-nonfree update in my kpackagekit. I've installed it and now it's not working :( I tried reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree, but this had no effect
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:05] <szal> moin BluesKaj
[13:06] <BluesKaj> hey szal
[13:22] <disse> hey guys, the last days was an flashplugin-nonfree update in my kpackagekit. I've installed it and now it's not working :( I tried reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree, but this had no effect
[13:25] <BluesKaj> disse, open a terminal , sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer
[13:25] <giowck> disse: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/50108/how-can-i-get-flash-working-on-kubuntu-11-04-64bit/50117#50117 for a temporary fix
[13:25] <giowck> i had the same problem
[13:25] <disse> aah, k, thy
[13:25] <Peace-> BluesKaj: hey
[13:25] <disse> blueskaj method wouldn't work?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> hi Peace-
[13:26] <disse> I mean not to be temporary
[13:27] <BluesKaj> disse, the command will work permanently 'til the next changes are made to the default
[13:28] <disse> kk
[13:31] <disse> --reinstall worked
[13:36] <giowck> nice, it works now also on my pc. Yesterday the flash package didn't work. Seems to be fixed :D
[13:47] <lcb> hiAll
[13:51] <BluesKaj> disse, I should have mentioned the reinstall command removes the the previous configuration file and replaces it with the new version which reconfigures all browser flash plugins.
[13:51] <disse> aah, thy
[13:52] <BluesKaj> so a mere reinstall with package manager won't make much difference
[13:55] <Badenser> Hi there. I am using Kubuntu 11.04. (and so KMail 1.13.6). Since one of the last updates, I have problems with my identities: When creating a new mail or reply, the identity was taken that was assigned to the current folder or to the original mail before. Now kmail takes the last identity used.
[13:55] <Badenser> Also the used "sent" mail folder is sometimes wrong. it uses a folder not assigned to the used identity but of another ...
[13:55] <Badenser> Did I do something wrong?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> Badenser, maybe the user acct and identity settings aren't correct
[14:04] <Badenser> "not correct"?
[14:05] <Badenser> I rechecked everything ... I'd say they are correct - but what could I miss?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Badenser, I haven't used kmail in a while , but recall the settings can be confusing between user acct and identities\
[14:05] <Badenser> I think I am aware of the concept. And: it worked fine in former KMail releases
[14:06] <Badenser> as mentioned: the problems came up in one of the past updates
[14:07] <BluesKaj> right ...after kde4 I found kmail clunky to set up and use , too many options for impatient ppl like me
[14:08] <Badenser> it also worked on KDE4 once
[14:08] <BluesKaj> I know that last comment doesn't help , but that's the reason I switched to gmail
[14:10] <Badenser> this wouldnt help.
[14:10] <Badenser> and btw, the identities stuff is great as I have some accounts with several different identites ...
[14:10] <Badenser> even evolution doesnt do it better
[14:12] <BluesKaj> yes Badenser , agreed ...I liked the dentities and used that feature as well
[14:12] <BluesKaj> identities
[14:13]  * genii-around sticks with his Pine
[14:13]  * szal had no problem porting KMail settings from KDE3 to KDE4
[14:13]  * Badenser neither
[14:13] <szal> but then again, that was 2 years ago, so don't ask me for details ;)
[14:13]  * Badenser had problems with one of the last Kubuntu updates (unfortunately cannot remember which)
[14:15] <BluesKaj> it might be coincidence , but just around that time my mailserver switched to hotmail  so the pop3 mail settings no longer worked , had to switch to pophm and smtphm
[14:15] <szal> but I switched distros quite a few times w/ these settings and never experienced any oddities
[14:15] <Badenser> other question: where could I continue debugging?
[15:20] <wohnpal> hi
[15:21] <wohnpal> I am trying to format a HDD I have using mkisofs using kde 11.04... however mkisofs oder mkisofs.ext4 is not installed, how can that be?
[15:21] <wohnpal> I thought it was part of the standard linux programs
[15:23] <BluesKaj> wohnpal, I think genisoimage has replaced mkisifs
[15:23] <BluesKaj> err mkisofs
[15:32] <lcb> anyone with an idea why this portable scan device IRIScan keep being recognized as a Plustek OpticSlim M12?     http://paste.ubuntu.com/636920/
[15:37] <claydoh> lcb: probably as that is what scanning chip the device is using
[15:38] <lcb> claydoh: yes but... not working
[15:39] <claydoh> do you have the needed firmware file?
[15:41] <lcb> claydoh: yes, installed. is at the end of that pastedbin
[15:41] <PythonSnake> is there antivirus for kubuntu ?
[15:42] <lcb> btw, are wildcards allowed at 'overrides'?  'override "plustek-opticslim*"' or even verride "plustek*"
[15:42] <claydoh> lcb: I don't know
[15:42] <lcb> PythonSnake: the one i know, better and popular by demand, clam antivirus
[15:42] <claydoh> I doubt it in this case
[15:43] <lcb> claydoh: it's ok :)
[15:43] <PythonSnake> do we need antivirus ? lcb
[15:44] <claydoh> some scanners are a pain, tho these days  a lot of then Just Work, the rest are annoyingly difficult :/
[15:44] <lcb> PythonSnake: very subjective matter. if there is an antivirus for linux, probably there are virus for linux.
[15:44] <lcb> i never digged on that
[15:44] <claydoh> PythonSnake: antivirus fo linux, generally not needed
[15:45] <PythonSnake> lcb: ok i'll get than one thanks
[15:45] <PythonSnake> for the best security :)
[15:45] <claydoh> the antivirus stuff is mostly for thing like mail servers, where the virus can be transferred to others
[15:45] <BluesKaj> !virus | PythonSnake
[15:45] <lcb> PythonSnake: all antivirus are system ressources consuming, so better avoid... unless any good reason to believe the system is compromized by it
[15:47] <PythonSnake>  except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba) means that I download something and copy it to windows ?
[15:47] <lcb> claydoh: about the scanners being a pain.. indeed. i got this one long time ago and never tested it under linux. now i need it and... not working ;)
[15:47] <lcb> PythonSnake: windows would not "contaminate" linux
[15:47] <lcb> PythonSnake: better use a good one on the win side
[15:47] <claydoh> lcb: from a quick googling it might be possible, tho I haven't looked too deeply
[15:48] <lcb> claydoh: i'll try later or another day. thanks a lot :)
[15:48] <PythonSnake> ok so no antivirus :)
[15:48] <PythonSnake> thanks for the info
[15:49] <claydoh> lcb: no problem. I used to have to compile sane and the gt68xx module by hand Back In The Day to get an old Mustek scanner to work lol
[15:51] <lcb> !info clamAV > PythonSnake
[15:51] <lcb> claydoh:  :)
[15:51] <PythonSnake> lcb: fail ?
[15:51] <lcb> !clamAV
[15:51] <lcb> oops
[15:52] <lcb> !info clamAV
[15:52] <PythonSnake> lol
[15:52] <lcb> :p
[15:53] <lcb> PythonSnake: that's the one most (virus paranoid) people uses
[15:54] <PythonSnake> lcb: do you use bouncer ? (another topic :))
[15:55] <lcb> PythonSnake: yes, the one you see when /whois lcb
[15:56] <PythonSnake> lcb: do i need server for bnc ?
[15:59] <lcb> PythonSnake: there are several, i believe ZNC is the most used. i'm using one recommended by freenode.net and for me was easy to install and activate
[15:59] <PythonSnake> lcb: do I need a vpn ?
[15:59] <lcb> i wanted something to run at that time (when activated) so i didn't put too much time on it
[16:00] <lcb> PythonSnake: no. if you do a search on the freenode.net page i believe there is some info on it
[16:00] <PythonSnake> lcb: does it run even if my pc is off ?
[16:02] <alicia__> hi
[16:02] <PythonSnake> hi alicia__
[16:03] <alicia__> is the first time im using the kubuntu irc
[16:03] <alicia__> xD
[16:03] <lcb> PythonSnake: nooo. that's another thing. sorry, i'm using an irc cloak.
[16:04] <PythonSnake> lcb: how to be online even if my pc is off ?
[16:04] <lcb> PythonSnake: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[16:05] <lcb> PythonSnake: with the BNC (bouncer)
[16:06] <lcb> hello alicia__. welcome to the firstimers :p
[16:06] <alicia__> thankss
[16:06] <PythonSnake> lcb: I've tried ZNC but when I turn my pc off, i become offline
[16:06] <alicia__> Im trying to add new networks
[16:07] <lcb> PythonSnake: never used. i'm planning in trying it this year, or next
[16:07] <alicia__> how can I change my nickname?
[16:08] <lcb> ---> /nick NewNick
[16:08] <alicia__> thanks!
[16:08] <lcb> :)
[16:08] <PythonSnake> alicia__: /msg NickServ register <password>
[16:10] <AlexZion> hi guys ,there is a way to get a  "Language Selector" on the Login screen  ?
[16:17] <lcb> AlexZion: i believe the default login screen comes with a lang selector option, not sure. did you change the default GUI style?
[16:20] <AlexZion> lcb , actually I changed the theme but I think there wasn't on the default screen as well , anyway , I'll check it better ...
[16:21] <lcb> AlexZion: System Settings | type in the search box (on the top right) login
[16:24] <AlexZion> noway lcb, no language selector .... :(
[16:25] <lcb> AlexZion: there might be a way of having it. google a bit on it
[16:26] <AlexZion> ok thanks lcb ...., actually would very interesting to insert it in my themes ....
[16:27] <AlexZion> lcb, do you know a good point to start building a new bootsplash ?
[16:28] <AlexZion> I mean some good tutorial link  :)
[16:28] <lcb> AlexZion: sorry, no :(
[16:29] <AlexZion> ahh, you don't have to be sorry about that ... ;)
[16:32] <lcb> a huge crash on the tour of france
[16:42] <causticsand> When I try to change my printer details in system settings>printer configuration, I get the error, "The service 'Printer Configuration' does not provide an interface 'KCModule' with keyword 'system-config-printer-kde/system-config-printer-kde.py' The factory does not support creating components of the specified type.
[16:43] <causticsand> I found a few posts from years ago where some people had a similar message, but the "fixes" haven't worked for me
[16:43] <causticsand> Anyone else had this issue and resolved it?
[16:44] <causticsand> Linux version 2.6.35-28-generic (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 4.4.5 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.4.4-14ubuntu5) ) #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 19:00:26 UTC 2011
[17:03] <causticsand> When I try to change my printer details in system settings>printer configuration, I get the error, "The service 'Printer Configuration' does not provide an interface 'KCModule' with keyword 'system-config-printer-kde/system-config-printer-kde.py' The factory does not support creating components of the specified type.
[17:04] <causticsand> Linux version 2.6.35-28-generic (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 4.4.5 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.4.4-14ubuntu5) ) #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 19:00:26 UTC 2011
[17:22] <nikitis> Hey i have a scripting issue.
[17:22] <nikitis> I'm trying to get kubuntu installing via debootstrapping on an "undisclosed" device that I cannot reveal.
[17:23] <nikitis> Problem is.  Once I chroot the base system.  the script which was on the pre-chrooted environment gets cut off due to chrooting
[17:23] <nikitis> Is there a way to make the script survive the chrooting process?
[17:30] <BATi> nikitis: hmm, you are running a script, which does chroot? then split the work between out-of-chroot and in-chroot scripts
[17:40] <nikitis> BATi: how would that work?
[17:40] <nikitis> BATi: would the first script be able to send the command to run the other script?
[17:41] <Monika> I have accidentally removed a USB stick that was not unmounted. Now it is not recognized anymore, it's not mountable and not even the partition manager can see it, so I can't even format it. Any ideas how to repair it?
[17:41] <BATi> nikitis: chroot /newroot /path/to/script
[17:45] <BATi> Monika: hmmm, does at least system see it, when you plug it in? you can check it by inserting it and running "dmesg" from konsole
[17:45] <nikitis> BATi: so like # LANG=C chroot /mnt/kubuntu /kubuntu-installer.sh ?
[17:47] <BATi> nikitis: well, I'm just offering general solution for running something in chroot, never used debootstrap myself, but something along those lines...
[17:48] <BATi> nikitis: ...should work..
[17:52] <Monika> I'll try that
[17:55] <nikitis> BATi: before my line that kills the script is LANG=C chroot /mnt/kubuntu /bin/bash
[17:55] <nikitis> is that because i'm telling it to just go back to bash?
[17:56] <nikitis> BATi: or could I just leave out the last part entirely
[17:56] <BATi> noaXess: no, you are telling it to change root a run interactive bash in it...
[17:56] <BATi> nikitis: ^^
[17:58] <BATi> nikitis: the script which calls chroot will continue after you logout from chrooted bash (ctrl+d, exit...)
[18:03] <shane2peru> ok, I click on a text file and it opens in kate, I click another text file and it opens in the same kate and the other one disappears??  can't I see both at the same time?
[18:03] <nikitis> BATi: so should i wait to chroot until the end of my script?
[18:05] <BATi> shane2peru: you have both files open, the first just hides... enable tab plugin in kate to see them nicely...
[18:05] <shane2peru> BATi: thanks
[18:07] <BATi> nikitis: depends on what you are trying to achieve... if just chrooting and running some script inside chroot to do some changes in chrooted environment, then it does not matter... if you want to end up in interactive shell inside chroot, it would be wiser
[18:09] <BATi> nikitis: eg. lets have a script called setup.sh, in that we copy needed files into chroot, and add script which will run inside called modify_env.sh so I can call "chroot /newroot /modify_env.sh && echo "Chroot modified"
[18:13] <causticsand> When I try to change my printer details in system settings>printer configuration, I get the error, "The service 'Printer Configuration' does not provide an interface 'KCModule' with keyword 'system-config-printer-kde/system-config-printer-kde.py' The factory does not support creating components of the specified type.
[18:13] <causticsand> Linux version 2.6.35-28-generic (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 4.4.5 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.4.4-14ubuntu5) ) #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 19:00:26 UTC 2011
[18:46] <hays> i got a dpkg error when installing kubunut
[18:46] <hays> it was pretty vague saying it might be an error due to an old livecd or maybe error in package.  no package was listed
[18:46] <hays> i am using the 64 bit 11.01 livecd downloaded yesterday
[18:48] <hays> great and now my boot sector appears to have been nuked
[18:51] <BluesKaj> boot sector ? are you going to dual boot ? hays
[18:52] <hays> well that was the plan
[18:52] <hays> of course now my boot sector is screwed up
[18:52] <BluesKaj> how do you know?
[18:52] <hays> well, because the system won't boot
[18:53] <BluesKaj> windows won't boot ?
[18:53] <hays> the system does not boot
[18:55] <hays> hmm well damn
[18:55] <BluesKaj> ok, now try holding the shift key down , when the bios page comes up , and then you should get a grub menu
[18:56] <BluesKaj> without the live cd of course
[18:56] <hays> nope
[18:57] <hays> just sits there cursor blinking
[18:58] <BluesKaj> hold the shiftkey for probly about 15-20secs
[18:58] <hays> yep i did
[18:58] <hays> nothing happened
[18:58] <hays> twice
[18:58] <BluesKaj> you need to reboot then hold the key
[18:59] <hays> I did.  Twice.
[18:59] <evmo> hello
[19:00] <BluesKaj> hays does the live cd boot ok ?
[19:00] <hays> yes
[19:01] <hays> headed to a terminal right now
[19:02] <BluesKaj> ok sudo update-grub
[19:03] <hays> facepalm
[19:04] <hays> wow
[19:04] <hays> both of my hard drives appear to have linux partitions on them
[19:04] <hays> that's wonderful
[19:05] <BluesKaj> no ntfs ?
[19:05] <hays> no
[19:05] <hays> also, cfdisk isn't working i have to use fdisk
[19:06] <hays> wow
[19:06] <hays> i think my data is gone
[19:07] <BluesKaj> :(
[19:08] <hays> have to say ubuntu aint lookin too good right now heh
[19:12] <BluesKaj> hays, how did you partition the space for kubuntu ... auto, guided or manual ?
[19:13] <hays> auto only showed my windows partition, so I went to guided and selected the other drive, which was empty
[19:14] <hays> I am very thankful I moved all my data to a FreeBSD machine
[19:14] <hays> So reinstalling windows won't be too much an ordeal
[19:14] <BluesKaj> so which hdd is set as default boot in th bios boot sequence?
[19:15] <hays> It went CD-ROM then the Windows Drive
[19:15] <hays> yep data definitely gone
[19:16] <k3njiy> Heya, my gfx-card got attacked by dust puppies and burnt out. now i need a new one. can anybody suggest a good cheap one?
[19:16] <hays> nvidia 460's are pretty cheap these days
[19:16] <BluesKaj> personally I would burn a gparted live cd and make absolutelu sure that your windows drive is reformatted
[19:16] <hays> the SEs are a particularly good bargain if you don't need a lot of performance
[19:16] <BluesKaj> is or isn't
[19:16] <hays> BluesKaj: I did.  I booted into puppy linux
[19:16] <BluesKaj> ok
[19:17] <k3njiy> hays: well since i do play games sometimes i would like one thats not too crappy. had a 8800gtx before.
[19:18] <k3njiy> hays: it has to have dual dvi since i have a dual monitor setup
[19:18] <hays> I have a GTX 460 (not SE) and its pretty good.   There is supposed to be a good 5 series out there too
[19:19] <hays> Palit makes a GTX 460 2GB which looks interesting
[19:19] <BluesKaj> I picked up a 8400gs for 40 bucks US at tigerdirect but beware of their discount plan ..it's a 3rd party scam IMO
[19:21] <k3njiy> thx i will check them out.
[19:22] <hays> k3njiy:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261077
[19:22] <k3njiy> but you all recomend nvidia instead of ati?
[19:22] <hays> that's the 2 GB that looks interesting.  I have the 1 GB
[19:22] <hays> k3njiy: im out of date with respect to linux and nvidia vs. ati
[19:23] <hays> I've heard the ATI drivers have come along way though
[19:24] <hays> The Palit one I linked is also nice because its not so freaking LONG   I have an MSI also and its like almost twice the length.  makes it a pain to fit in the case
[19:24] <k3njiy> hays: thx, but since I'm in europe it's suboptimal for me to order from the us...
[19:25] <hays> oh well im not saying use newegg just talking about one thing I like about the palit cards
[19:26] <k3njiy> honestly never heard of them but they look nice! thx! you're happy with the palit card you have? might go for a less expensiv one, under 100€ since i need food every 2-3 days....
[19:29] <k3njiy> think i will go for the PALIT GTS450 1024MB, looks nice. thanks hays
[19:29] <hays> Yeah I've been happy with them.  not sure the conversion rate see if you can get the GTX they are better I think
[19:30] <BluesKaj> aati drivers till suffer somewhat from develpment in linux ...IMO nvidia is till more up to date
[19:30] <BluesKaj> ati
[19:30] <hays> oh under $100 yeah thats probably good
[19:31] <BluesKaj> dual dvi outs ?
[19:31] <hays> im left wondering if I should even try to install linux again after that experience wow
[19:31] <k3njiy> dual link dvi, whatever that might be...
[19:31] <hays> FreeBSD's boot loader wigged me out though
[19:32] <hays> I think you can drive two monitors from one dvi port but ive never done it
[19:32] <hays> may need a special cable
[19:32] <k3njiy> probably an adaptar of some sorts
[19:32] <hays> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&biw=1284&bih=727&q=dual+link+dvi+cable&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=6633518581110417809&sa=X&ei=SmQPTvbKI8XJgQf5lrGKDA&ved=0CDEQ8gIwAA
[19:33] <k3njiy> just wondering if linux can managed a duallink.....
[19:34] <BluesKaj> hays  broken url
[19:34] <hays> ah well.  yeah its just a cable
[19:36] <BluesKaj> hays , if you run freebsd , then whynot linx as well ? :)
[19:36] <hays> I've moved around over the years
[19:36] <k3njiy> hays BluesKaj: thanks guys, i will stick to nvidia, look at the palit cards and going afk now again (hackers is on tv ^ ^ ) cya
[19:37] <BluesKaj> havent run bsd in 5 yrs or so
[19:37] <hays> I have it on a server.  I did it because of zfs.
[19:37] <hays> I have a RAID-Z1 in there.. which is like a RAID-5 on crack
[19:37] <BluesKaj> k3njiy, later
[19:37] <hays> 6 TB storage online
[19:38] <hays> desktop has win7, laptop has macos
[19:38] <hays> spent the last few days trying to hacknit0sh the system with no luck whatsoever
[19:40] <hays> then figured why not stick linux on the drive
[19:40] <hays> thinking maybe i could see how linux support for virtualization is, running win7 and macos in vbox or something
[19:44] <BluesKaj> odd that both drives got formatted ...almost as if they're striped , if i can recall my raid memorybank
[19:44] <hays> yes very odd.
[19:46] <hays> Intel IHC10R controller..  I think those are pretty well supported in linux and everywhere
[19:48] <hays> it is times like these I wish I had a better than 3.0M DSL connection
[19:48] <hays> when downloading an era of Windows updates
[19:48] <hays> Windows should have a way to let you burn a CD that like recovers your system files in a way that they are current
[19:51] <hays> Also this continues my streak of bad luck with Asus components
[19:51] <hays> I swear, I think I am just going to buy Gigabyte motherboards from here on out.
[19:51] <hays> maybe that is superstitious
[20:02] <PythonSnake> help
[20:02] <PythonSnake> I got small fonts
[20:06] <BluesKaj> kmenu>apps>settings>syten settings>application appearance>fonts .. PythonSnake
[20:07] <BluesKaj> kmenu>apps>settings>system settings>application appearance>fonts
[20:07] <PythonSnake> BluesKaj: What are defults ?
[20:07] <PythonSnake> defaults*
[20:08] <BluesKaj> depends on your resolution
[20:08] <PythonSnake> 1366x768
[20:09] <BluesKaj> you can adjustall fonts too
[20:11] <PythonSnake> I think it's fixed
[20:11] <PythonSnake> thanks
[20:42] <mranima> Can some one answer me this, why is it when I watch videos on you tube or any video site the flash video freezes not like freeze that it stops but like it freezes during the video.
[20:44] <Linkmaster> mranima: are you using rekonq?
[20:44] <mranima> no i using Chromium.
[20:45] <mranima> with rekonq idk, don't like it.
[20:45] <mranima> :P
[20:45] <Linkmaster> Try using FF or Rekonq to do it
[20:46] <mranima> on firefox it happens as well.
[20:46] <Linkmaster> have you tried reinstalling flash?
[20:47] <mranima> nope.
[20:47] <mranima> i'll do that.
[20:56] <elkng> "universe/m/mc/" <- there are some files: "mc_4.7.0.9-1_i386.deb" and "mc_4.7.0.9-2.debian.tar.gz" is the second one the source for this package ?
[20:56] <elkng> if I want to download all packages do I have to download only *i386.deb files from all those directories ?
[20:56] <sinnock> hey i am a new kubuntu user and have been having some trouble getting internet games to run on my computer. i need help figuring it out
[20:57] <mranima> Alright linkmaster thanks Reinstalling worked! :)
[20:58] <sinnock> hey i am a new kubuntu user and have been having some trouble getting internet games to run on my computer. i need help figuring it out. i have both the rekong and firefox web browsers and java plugins installed but the games still won't run. any help would be awesome
[21:00] <elkng> I want to have local copy of repo of i386 packages, is there easy way to do this rather then "wget" ?
[21:01] <Torch> elkng: what is wrong with wget?
[21:01] <gomiboy> elkng: wget is perfect, use --mirror option
[21:02] <gomiboy> (also man wget :)
[21:03] <sinnock>  hey i am a new kubuntu user and have been having some trouble getting internet games to run on my computer. i need help figuring it out. i have both the rekong and firefox web browsers and java plugins installed but the games still won't run. any help would be awesome
[21:05] <elkng> if I use wget with link "http://ubuntu.wikimedia.org/ubuntu//pool/universe/" and there are files like: "mc_4.7.0.6-1.debian.tar.gz , mc_4.7.0.6-1.dsc, mc_4.7.0.6-1_amd64.deb, mc_4.7.0.6-1_i386.deb, mc_4.7.0.6.orig.tar.gz"  it will download all those files, but I only need one "mc_4.7.0.6-1_i386.deb"
[21:06] <elkng> maybe there are some DVD's like 8 DVD for debian, where I can just download them for later use ?
[21:06] <bomber> sinnock you might need flash installed
[21:08] <sinnock> thats what i thought but i have 10.1
[21:09] <sinnock> this is what my firefox browser says: Shockwave Flash      File: libgnashplugin.so     Version:      Shockwave Flash 10.1 r999.     Gnash 0.8.9, the GNU SWF Player. Copyright (C) 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc.     Gnash comes with NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. You may redistribute copies of Gnash under the terms of the GNU General Public License. For more information about Gnash, se
[21:09] <bomber> see if gnash is installed
[21:09] <bomber> thats a good shockwave flash player
[21:09] <bomber> well not player but pluggin
[21:10] <BluesKaj> sinnock, is kubunu-restricted-extras installed ?
[21:10] <sinnock> thanks i'll check
[21:10] <Torch> bomber: my guess would be in this case gnash is actually the problem.
[21:10] <sinnock> i think so blues but i'll check
[21:10] <BluesKaj> !kubunu-restricted-extras
[21:11] <BluesKaj> oops
[21:11] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:11] <bomber> its possible.... mine worked for a couple days with just flash installed and then it stopped working so i removed it and installed gnash and mine is all set... but every system is a little different i guess
[21:11] <sinnock> ok i have gnash
[21:12] <sinnock> should i remmove adobe?
[21:12] <BluesKaj> gnash isn't the most reliable either
[21:12] <bomber> no, i wouldnt but you might wanna remover flash
[21:13] <sinnock> how do i do that?
[21:13] <BluesKaj> sinnock, did you read the post about kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[21:13] <bomber> ohh yea sorry
[21:13] <sinnock> yes i got them
[21:14] <bomber> its listed as adobe flash player...
[21:14] <BluesKaj> bomber, gnash isn't a good idea
[21:14] <sinnock> :)
[21:15] <bomber> you guys know better than me... i was just trying to help... it worked on mine
[21:15] <BluesKaj> ok sinnock the open a terminal and do , sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer
[21:15] <sinnock> oh no its fine i know little to nothing
[21:16] <bomber> the adobe flash was working fine and then after i upgraded flash it stopped working so i had to use gnash
[21:16] <sinnock> terminal?
[21:17] <sinnock> i got runescape to work once but then it didn't work
[21:17] <BluesKaj> sinnock, yes , kmenu>apps>system>terminal
[21:18] <sinnock> found it thanks :)
[21:20] <sinnock> ok so i typed in the terminal screen: do , sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer   on the next line it said: bash:  syntax error near unexpected token do
[21:21] <Torch> sinnock: well, drop the "do ," ;-)
[21:21] <sinnock> :) thanks
[21:21] <BluesKaj> sinnock, just copy and paste ,  sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer
[21:21] <sinnock> i'm a smart feller :P
[21:22] <shane2peru> ok, quick question, why is my computer running slower?  I click on a windows, or something, and it is like the fan speed kicks up and the computer wakes up and 4 seconds later the icon starts blinking for the window I opened, and 2 seconds later it opens?
[21:22] <shane2peru> It acts like I do in the morning when I first wake up
[21:23] <BluesKaj> using the terminal is a good way to learn about how linux aps and packages work ...a very useful tool
[21:23] <shane2peru> maybe this is a good question for a 'smart feller'  ;)
[21:23] <sinnock> not really XD
[21:23] <shane2peru> lol. :)  Just had to comment on  that comment.
[21:24] <sinnock> ok it asked me for my password and it won't let me type it :P
[21:24] <sinnock> shane: LOL
[21:24] <shane2peru> sinnock: it is hidden
[21:24] <shane2peru> sinnock: so you won't see it as you type, but it is there.
[21:24] <BluesKaj> shane2peru, check in system monitor to see what's eating your cpu
[21:24] <sinnock> ... i really am a smart feller
[21:24] <sinnock> :l
[21:25] <sinnock> YAY! it worked
[21:25] <BluesKaj> that's to keep peering eyes from seeing your pw , sinnock
[21:25] <shane2peru> BluesKaj: nothing.  It doesn't feel like it is lagging because it is busy with 'heavy' work, it acts like it 'wakes up' to open Dolphin, are disks spinning down??
[21:25] <sinnock> aha
[21:26] <sinnock> :)
[21:26] <shane2peru> BluesKaj: ohh, wait, top shows Xorg as using about 30% cpu
[21:26] <shane2peru> whereas the GUI with Alt+F2 shows nothing
[21:26] <BluesKaj> shane2peru, ok, hve you installed the recommended drivers in  additional drivers ?
[21:26] <sinnock> ok flash plugin installed
[21:27] <shane2peru> BluesKaj: yep
[21:27] <shane2peru> checking now to make sure they are still 'enabled'
[21:27] <shane2peru> yep, it is active
[21:28] <BluesKaj> sometimes a bug appears with nvidia drivers saying the driver is installed but not being used
[21:29] <sinnock> ok i'm testing a game now
[21:29] <shane2peru> BluesKaj: let me digress a minute, using another distro, if I had 100 things going on, the desktop was still very responsive click on a window and it popped on the screen very quickly, so that is probably the root of my question
[21:29] <mranima> this might silly to ask, but is there a Oxygen theme for Chromium?
[21:30] <sinnock> that would be cool
[21:30] <mranima> so theres not?
[21:30] <BluesKaj> mranima, barely , chromium doesn't integrate much with kde
[21:30] <billytwowilly> anybody else getting a ton of random vlc crashes?
[21:30] <mranima> ah i see.
[21:30] <mranima> thanks for letting me know.
[21:31] <shane2peru> BluesKaj: appears to have been Google Desktop indexing my files, stopped the indexing, and now everything is more snappy, and xorg is between 8% and 20%
[21:31] <mranima> also i haven't experience any crashes with VLC, whats happening with yours?
[21:31] <shane2peru> with amarok bouncing in now and then at 50%??  I'm not evening playing music
[21:32] <BluesKaj> mranima, yeah it's sad ...i complained at #chromium and they said they pass along the request ,..it's espcially bad if you run a largescrn monitor
[21:33] <mranima> yeah.
[21:33] <mranima> but all we can do is wait.
[21:33] <BluesKaj> the fonts on the bookmarks toolbar can't be enlarged
[21:34] <shane2peru> BluesKaj: ok, I think I got it, seems as though amarok was hung up or something
[21:34] <shane2peru> brb
[21:34] <sinnock> ok so the game still won't load... :P
[21:34] <sinnock> any othe suggestions
[21:34] <sinnock> ?
[21:35] <BluesKaj> amarok is buggy,unresponsive and I hate the layout
[21:35] <gomiboy> sinnock: give us the url of the game
[21:35] <BluesKaj> sinnock, what game ?
[21:36] <sinnock> kongregate.com everybody edits
[21:37] <sinnock> it works on our other kubuntu computer and we changed them both to kubuntu at the same time
[21:38] <Soothsayer> What's the difference between GDM and KDM ?
[21:38] <mranima> KDM is for KDE and GDM is for gnome :-D
[21:38] <gomiboy> sinnock: did you restarted your browser after the reinstall of flash?
[21:39] <sinnock> yes but i'll try it again
[21:39] <BluesKaj> sinnock,refresh any browsers that were open
[21:39] <shane2peru> Soothsayer: GDM is the Gnome boot thing, and KDM is the KDE Boot thing, they can boot anything, used to be GDM wouldn't let you shutdown kde and visa versa
[21:40] <sinnock> ok
[21:40] <shane2peru> Soothsayer: that is just a basic difference, I'm sure there are more indepth differences between the two.
[21:40] <mranima> yeah there is.
[21:40] <mranima> but it depends which one you like.
[21:53] <mranima> can this post on Posterous http://www.kde.org/applications/internet/blogilo/
[21:56] <Ddpbf> shane2peru: actually KDM is KDE Display Manager not just KDE boot thing :)
[21:57] <shane2peru> Ddpbf: ahh, ok, right, I guess it is what runs X, because reseting X is usually done by restarting the K/G DM  <-- OOOh, Display Manager. :)
[21:57] <Ddpbf> :)
[21:58] <shane2peru> that makes sense, I couldn't think of the appropriate terms hence, boot thing. :)
[21:59] <Ddpbf> yes DM in GDM/KDM/LXDM is for display manager
[22:00] <Ddpbf> I think only Xfce does not have native display manager
[22:00] <sinnock> oi... so it didn't work (restarting my browser) i'll work on it more tomarrow :P
[22:00] <sinnock> thanks for all the help guys!
[22:01] <mranima> http://www.kde.org/applications/internet/kget/ can Kget integrate with Chromium?
[22:02] <BluesKaj> sinnock, check your graphics drivers in kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers
[22:02] <Ddpbf> mranima: I dont think so
[22:02] <Ddpbf> kget can bee integrated with firefox
[22:03] <Ddpbf> (and of course with rekonq/konqueror)
[22:03] <Ddpbf> but you can see on kde-apps
[22:04] <Ddpbf> is there some cool app for chromium integration
[22:04] <Ddpbf> I know ther is kwallet support for chromium
[22:09] <sinnock> ok sorry i took so long
[22:10] <sinnock> so i have no proprietary drivers in use but i have: experamental 3D support for NVIDIA cards
[22:10] <sinnock> should i activate that?
[22:11] <Ddpbf> what?
[22:12] <Ddpbf> if there is no proprietary drivers you allredy use
[22:12] <Ddpbf> open source drivers
[22:12] <sinnock> ok cool thanks
[22:12] <BluesKaj> sinnock, no the recommended driver is what you want
[22:13] <sinnock> what do you mean?
[22:13] <Ddpbf> sinnock:
[22:13] <BluesKaj> is there one listed , sinnock?
[22:13] <Ddpbf> sudo lspci -knn | grep -i VGA
[22:14] <sinnock> no threres just the experamental 3D thingy
[22:14] <Ddpbf> paste output on http://paste.kde.org
[22:15] <sinnock> paste what?
[22:15] <BluesKaj> ok , sinnock , lspci |grep VGA , in trhe terminal
[22:16] <BluesKaj> that will tell you which graphics card you have so we can figure out which driver you need
[22:16] <sinnock> ok cool
[22:17] <sinnock> ok so i'm typing: ispci lgrep VGA
[22:18] <BluesKaj> if it's just one or two lines, paste them here
[22:18] <Graf_Westerholt> sinnock, just copy and paste it.
[22:18] <Graf_Westerholt> sinnock, it is not l, it is |
[22:18] <scott__> just a quick question, is it possible to set windows programs to always be executable for Wine?
[22:18] <sinnock> how do you do that?
[22:19] <Graf_Westerholt> Yes, scott__ :)
[22:19] <BluesKaj> sinnock, shift , then the \ key
[22:19] <scott__> I know you can go into Properties>Permissions in Kubuntu, but I'd like to be able to download and install Windows programs without that step :D
[22:19] <scott__> I'm careful enough about what I download
[22:21] <BluesKaj> scott__, the exe are the only windows apps that will run in wine afaik
[22:21] <Graf_Westerholt> scott__, just click the exe, type in wine and check the box to allways start it with wine.
[22:21] <scott__> okay
[22:21] <scott__> thanks Graf_Westerholt
[22:21] <Graf_Westerholt> np
[22:22] <BluesKaj> or windows even :)
[22:24] <scott__> So Graf_Westerholt, when I download EXEs in the future, will I need to change the permission to make them executable?
[22:24] <Graf_Westerholt> You do not need to change the permision.
[22:25] <Graf_Westerholt> I have never set executable permission to any exe file.
[22:25] <BluesKaj> sco if you did what Graf_Westerholt suggested then when you click on the app it should auto-openin wine
[22:25] <BluesKaj> scott__,^
[22:25] <scott__> I did
[22:26] <sinnock> ok Blueskaj i figured it out. it said:  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nvidia corperation NVCrushll [GeForce2 MX Integrated Graphics]   (rev bl)
[22:27] <Ddpbf> it is pretty old gpu
[22:27] <Ddpbf> i guess ther is no proprietary drivers for it
[22:29] <Ddpbf> actually
[22:29] <Ddpbf> you could try with 96.xx legacy
[22:29] <sinnock> how do i do that?
[22:29] <Ddpbf> nvidia-96
[22:31] <sinnock> ok?
[22:31] <Ddpbf> sudo apt-get install nvidia-96
[22:31] <Ddpbf> http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/nvidia-96
[22:35] <sinnock> ok i entered in: sudo apt-get install nvidia-96. and it gave me thisSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable      distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:  nvidia-96 : Depends:
[22:35] <sinnock> Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.8.99.905-1ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed
[22:35] <sinnock> thats what it gave me
[22:36] <Ddpbf> errr
[22:37] <Ddpbf> you have xorg-edgers installed?
[22:37] <Ddpbf> *enabled
[22:37] <sinnock> let me check
[22:37] <sinnock> in kpackagekit?
[22:37] <Ddpbf> yes
[22:37] <sinnock> ok
[22:39] <sinnock> i entered xorg-edgers in the search box and it didn't come up with anything
[22:39] <Ddpbf> ok go in konsole
[22:39] <Ddpbf> and
[22:39] <Ddpbf> cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:39] <Ddpbf> ls -l
[22:40] <Ddpbf> paste output of this commands on
[22:40] <Ddpbf> thise site http://paste.kde.org
[22:41] <sinnock> all it gave me was this: brambleclaw@sdfghi231:~$ cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d brambleclaw@sdfghi231:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ ls -l total 0 brambleclaw@sdfghi231:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$
[22:41] <Ddpbf> huh
[22:41] <Ddpbf> you dont have any ppas
[22:41] <Ddpbf> let me chack few things
[22:41] <sinnock> ok
[22:41] <Tm_T> ppa isn't necessarily in sources.list.d/
[22:42]  * BluesKaj wonders if that GeForce2 MX card uses the nouveau driver as default
[22:43] <Ddpbf> lol
[22:43] <Ddpbf> they put nvidia-96 from maverick in natty
[22:43] <Ddpbf> repos
[22:43] <Ddpbf> :)
[22:44] <sinnock> ok so what do i do with that?
[22:45] <Ddpbf> you could try to get 3d with floss drivers
[22:45] <Ddpbf> or
[22:45] <Ddpbf> you could download binary drivers
[22:45] <Ddpbf> from nvidia site
[22:45] <Ddpbf> and install it
[22:46] <sinnock> ok do you know what the url is?
[22:46] <sinnock> url address
[22:46]  * Ddpbf does not have nivdia
[22:46] <sinnock> or is that not the right term?
[22:46] <sinnock> ok
[22:47] <Ddpbf> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[22:47] <Ddpbf> i guess this is it
[22:47] <shane2peru> nvidia??
[22:47] <shane2peru> sinnock: you have nvidia?
[22:47] <sinnock> ya why?
[22:48] <shane2peru> what is the problem?  I have nvidia, but I use the drivers in the repos
[22:48] <shane2peru> haven't had any issues
[22:48] <shane2peru> I'm no expert, but do have experience with those things
[22:48] <sinnock> i've been trying to get my computer to run internet games
[22:49] <BluesKaj> sinnock , open kmenu>apps>sttings>systemsettings>desktop effects ..are the desktop effects enabled ?
[22:49] <sinnock> and i have no idea what i'm doing
[22:49] <sinnock> no
[22:49] <sinnock> i turned them off
[22:49] <shane2peru> oh, but not a nvidia problem necessarily then
[22:49] <Ddpbf> sinnock: do you have falsh installed?
[22:49] <sinnock> flash? yes
[22:49] <sinnock> adobe 10.1 i belive
[22:50] <BluesKaj> Ddpbf, yes he has..
[22:50] <Ddpbf> what web browser do you use
[22:50] <sinnock> rekong and firefox
[22:50] <sinnock> currently recong
[22:50] <sinnock> rekong
[22:50] <Ddpbf> q not g
[22:50] <Ddpbf> rekonq :)
[22:50] <sinnock> :l i'm smart...
[22:51] <sinnock> ok so i'm using rekonq
[22:51] <sinnock> :P LOL
[22:51] <sinnock> should i turn the desktop effects back on?
[22:52] <Ddpbf> maybe you dont have enough CPU or RAM for flash games
[22:52] <sinnock> thats entirely possible
[22:52] <sinnock> this computer was around when there were dinosaurs
[22:52] <BluesKaj> sinnock, that's your choice I just wanted to se if the composting was doinfg direct rendering and 3D on the graphics driver
[22:52] <sinnock> however i can run AOW on my computer
[22:53] <sinnock> oh ok
[22:53] <Ddpbf> ps do you use NoSript or flashblock on FF?
[22:54] <sinnock> i don't know
[22:54] <sinnock> how do i find out?
[22:54] <Ddpbf> believe me if u dont know how to find it ou do not use it
[22:54] <Ddpbf> :)
[22:55] <sinnock> oh also when i had windows xp on here i could run them moderately well
[22:55] <sinnock> :) LOL
[22:56] <shane2peru> perhaps as a thought sinnock you need to clear the browser cache?  maybe?
[22:56] <sinnock> ok how do i do that?
[22:57] <shane2peru> I don't use rekonq, in FF I think it is ctrl + shift + delete??  or something like that.
[22:57] <BluesKaj> sinnock, try this in the terminal , sudo apt-cache policy nouveau . paste the output thats beside the "installed"
[22:57] <sinnock> N: Unable to locate package nouveau brambleclaw@sdfghi231:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$
[22:58] <Ddpbf> sinnock: first do cd ~/
[22:58] <sinnock> ok
[22:59] <BluesKaj> ok thanks sinnock ,that helps
[22:59] <sinnock> ya
[23:00] <sinnock> i think i did something wrong. it gave me this: $ cd~/ bash: cd~/: No such file or directory brambleclaw@sdfghi231:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ cd~/ N: Unable to locate package nouveau bash: cd~/: No such file or directory brambleclaw@sdfghi231:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ brambleclaw@sdfghi231:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$  bash: brambleclaw@sdfghi231:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$: No such file or directory brambleclaw@sdfghi231:/etc/apt/sources.li
[23:00] <Ddpbf> uf
[23:00] <sinnock> uf?
[23:00] <Ddpbf> sinnock: just restart
[23:01] <sinnock> the computer?
[23:01] <Ddpbf> *close konsole and open new one
[23:01] <sinnock> oh ok :P
[23:01] <Ddpbf> uf is ouch in serbian
[23:01] <Ddpbf> :)
[23:01] <sinnock> :)
[23:01] <sinnock> ok
[23:03] <sinnock> ok i'm supposed to enter sudo apt-cache policy nouveau in the konsole right?\
[23:03] <Ddpbf> yes
[23:03] <sinnock> brambleclaw@sdfghi231:~$ sudo apt-cache policy nouveau  [sudo] password for brambleclaw:  N: Unable to locate package nouveau brambleclaw@sdfghi231:~$
[23:04] <sinnock> thats what it gave me
[23:04] <Ddpbf> errr
[23:04] <Ddpbf> apt-cache nouveau
[23:04] <sinnock> ok
[23:04] <well_laid_lawn> !nouveau
[23:05] <sinnock> brambleclaw@sdfghi231:~$ apt-cache nouveau E: Invalid operation nouveau brambleclaw@sdfghi231:~$
[23:05] <Ddpbf> wait a minute
[23:06] <sinnock> ok
[23:06] <BluesKaj>  invalid operation ?
[23:06] <Ddpbf> apt-cache show nouveau
[23:06] <sinnock> ok
[23:07] <Ddpbf> no no  no
[23:07] <sinnock> ok
[23:07] <Ddpbf> apt-cache show xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[23:08] <Ddpbf> it is right name of package i guess
[23:08] <sinnock> brambleclaw@sdfghi231:~$ apt-cache show xserver-xorg-video-nouveau Package: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 300 Maintainer: Ubuntu X-SWAT <ubuntu-x@lists.ubuntu.com> Original-Maintainer: Debian X Strike Force <debian-x@lists.debian.org> Architecture: i386 Version: 1:0.0.16+git20110107+b795ca6e-0ubuntu7 Provides: xorg-driver-video, xserver-xorg-video-10 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libdrm-nouve
[23:08] <sinnock>  2.4.23), libudev0 (>= 147), xorg-video-abi-10, xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.10.0-0ubuntu1~) Filename: pool/main/x/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau_0.0.16+git20110107+b795ca6e-0ubuntu7_i386.deb Size: 83674 MD5sum: c0a5cc94833c14d7d00ebcf1db1ee851 SHA1: 832125a3dc878d2df463194c4608bd48e7506469 SHA256: 26829dfa5881a37c572d25078c7c045e38034fd25125d059931571e35fbe076b Description: X.Org X server -- Nouveau display dri
[23:09] <sinnock> a further description)  provides support for NVIDIA Riva, TNT, GeForce, and Quadro cards.  .  Although the nouveau project aims to provide full 3D support it is not yet  complete, and these packages do not include any 3D support.  Users requiring 3D support should use the non-free "nvidia" driver.  .  This package is built from the FreeDesktop.org xf86-video-nouveau driver. Homepage: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ Bugs: https
[23:09] <sinnock> Supported: 18m Task: ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-uec-live, kubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-mobile-desktop, kubuntu-mobile, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-uec-live, xubuntu-desktop, mythbuntu-backend-master, mythbuntu-backend-slave, mythbuntu-desktop, mythbuntu-frontend, ubuntu-netbook
[23:10] <BluesKaj> sinnock, okokok
[23:10] <Ddpbf> sinnock: please but please do use http://paste.kde.org
[23:10] <Ddpbf> just go there and paste output
[23:10] <Ddpbf> then gave us link
[23:10] <sinnock> ok sorry
[23:11] <BluesKaj> not necessary , it's not in use
[23:11] <sinnock> ok how do i add to the pastebin i've already created
[23:12] <sinnock> ?
[23:12] <BluesKaj> BBL ...dinnertime
[23:12] <sinnock> ok
[23:13] <Ddpbf> i am sorry i have to go and sleep it is midnight in europe
[23:13] <Ddpbf> :)
[23:13] <sinnock> :) ok
[23:13] <sinnock> thanks for all the help!
[23:14] <Ddpbf> sinnock: just go in url bar
[23:14] <Ddpbf> and copy url
[23:14] <sinnock> http://paste.kde.org/90751/
[23:14] <Ddpbf> something like this
[23:14] <Ddpbf> yes
[23:14] <sinnock> i thought you'd left sorry
[23:15] <Ddpbf> i get to go sleep now
[23:15] <sinnock> thanks for all the help
[23:15] <Ddpbf> god night to me and all people from europe, good morning america
[23:15] <Ddpbf> :)
[23:15] <PythonSnake> lol