[00:21] <magn3ts> that'd be nice too, yes, definitely
[02:05] <Daekdroom> There's something weird with the Unity launcher.
[02:05] <Daekdroom> It's lacking something.
[02:06] <KM0201> Daekdroom: it didn't work at all for me, couldn't click buttons, etc.
[02:07] <Daekdroom> It's working here, but the lack of the shining frames when I hover the icons with my mouse...
[02:09] <Daekdroom> Or is it that it's taking too long to show the tooltip containing the app name.
[07:15] <guest_> hi
[07:20] <guest_> I am unable to boot off an amd64 live usb due to /run/udev error. Am i missing something?
[10:10] <snadge> sup in da oneiric house ;p
[12:24] <dsathe1> hello there
[12:24] <bazhang> hi
[12:25] <dsathe1> anyone has the issue of boot hanging at battey state ?
[12:25] <dsathe1> on boot when using gnome 3 ppa
[12:25] <bazhang> for gnome3?
[12:25] <dsathe1> yep
[12:25] <bazhang> thats 11.04
[12:25] <bazhang> why ask here.
[12:25] <dsathe1> i guees similar issue could exist on 11.10
[12:25] <dsathe1> OMg bazhang wher do i ask
[12:26] <dsathe1> its ubuntu specifig
[12:26] <bazhang> dsathe1, this is support for 11.10. you ask the ppa maintainer.
[12:26] <dsathe1> arch has no such bug >.<
[12:26] <ikonia> gnome 3 is not supported
[12:26] <ikonia> ask the guy who manages the PPA you got it from
[12:26] <dsathe1> please someone here ought to have gone down that path
[12:26] <dsathe1> official gnome 3 ppa maintained by ubuntu
[12:27] <dsathe1> afaik ubuntu team maintains gnome 3 ppa
[12:27] <dsathe1> on launchpad
[12:27] <bazhang> dsathe1, but they did not. so please stop asking
[12:28] <bazhang> dsathe1, you were told this in #ubuntu , why come here and continue
[12:28] <dsathe1> bazhang:  could you plese tell me what is channel for for gnome shell
[12:28] <dsathe1> is it on freenode or irc.gnome.org
[12:28] <bazhang> dsathe1, I no of no such channel
[12:28] <bazhang> err know
[12:31] <head_victim> dsathe1: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team has a mailing list
[12:32] <dsathe1> hmm thanks will pop in a mail :)
[12:32] <dsathe1> just hopin could get it sorted on irc , faster in  most cases
[12:32] <dsathe1> :)
[12:34] <head_victim> Yeah sorry I have no idea about gnome 3 at all :)
[12:36] <dsathe1> coz o this i cant log into unity either, have to drop to a tty n fire up x from there , g3 is default session, passing a param to startx not working either
[12:37] <bazhang> dsathe1, you're still asking. please don't continue.
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:08] <nperry> Running aptitude safe-upgrade from natty to oneiric and i seem stuck at
[14:08] <nperry> Resolving dependencies...
[14:08] <nperry> open: 272605; closed: 342451; defer: 105; conflict: 384
[14:09] <IdleOne> stuck how long?
[14:25] <charlie-tca> aptitude safe upgrade is not a valid way to upgrade from natty to oneiric
[14:32] <BUGabundo> boas
[14:36] <charlie-tca> Hello, BUGabundo
[14:53] <penguin42> ok, time to reboot into oo
[14:59] <Ether_Man> Umm. Im trying to get Samba4 to run, but samba-tool is currently not wanting to play nice with me :). It complains about the module talloc not being installed. Except it is. However from the path of the python files it uses, it seems it is trying to use python2.6. Except the python installed, as well as the python-talloc installed, is 2.7. Can I get samba-tool to use 2.7 instead, or is it safe to simply symlink the 2.7 version into t
[14:59] <Ether_Man> he 2.6 module dir?
[14:59] <Ether_Man> Or perhaps there's some package that provides the 2.6 version module?
[15:16] <penguin42> hmm
[15:16] <penguin42> it's got to be said OO is a bit sick
[15:17] <penguin42> has anyone else got problems with unity-panel-services failing and the menu bars blinking in and out of existence on all the apps?
[15:26]  * penguin42 files it as bug 804754
[15:26]  * penguin42 wonders how to make it useable again
[15:30] <Ian_Corne> I've update and rebooting
[15:32] <penguin42> metacity --replace has got stuff usable
[16:02] <nperry> idleone it gets to a certain point and stops doing what its doing
[16:27] <nperry> 2702 root      20   0 3088m 2.5g 1132 S    1 67.3   6:46.02 aptitude
[16:28] <nperry> 67% ram usage
[16:28] <BUGabundo> ah
[16:28] <nperry> Resolving dependencies...
[16:28] <nperry> open: 242150; closed: 303889; defer: 71; conflict: 301
[16:28] <nperry> think it may be broke :/
[16:28] <BUGabundo> how will that ever run on a server with 128MBs of RAM
[16:29] <BUGabundo> don't force upgrades with broken dependecies
[16:29] <BUGabundo> I've had some in queue for weeks
[16:29] <nperry> I've got 4gb btw :p
[16:29] <BUGabundo> me too
[16:29] <BUGabundo> and now swap
[16:29] <BUGabundo> not enough
[16:29] <nperry> I'm not, I've just ran safe-upgrade
[16:29] <BUGabundo> weird
[17:22] <gnomefreak> i broke it :(
[17:24] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: aahahahahaa
[17:24] <BUGabundo> FIXIT
[17:24] <gnomefreak> when booting kernel during when plymouth should be running it stops after battery "ok"\ message
[17:24] <gnomefreak> i doning updates maybe it will fix itself but i cant get udev failure out of mmy mind
[17:26] <gnomefreak> "run/udev" is failing and falling back on "udev/.udev" at least im fairly sure that is the message
[17:26] <BUGabundo> that's OLD
[17:26] <BUGabundo> been there the all cicle
[17:26] <gnomefreak> old yes but still broken
[17:27] <gnomefreak> yep it has
[17:27] <gnomefreak> after updates if i still cant load i will try another kernel if i have one
[17:28] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: do you know what loads after battery check?
[17:28] <gnomefreak> i have a feeling the updated udev the other day caused this issue
[17:30] <gnomefreak> well maybe my printer will be fixed but nothing in updates that would fix this issue from what i can see
[17:30] <gnomefreak> be back smoke
[17:33] <BUGabundo> no idea gnomefreak
[18:04] <gnomefreak> will apport run in a text browser if i have default set to ff7*
[18:05] <gnomefreak> well nevermind i saved it in /temp i can send it when i get up and running again. be back
[18:10] <gnomefreak> well it seems other kernels are failing the same way. during battery checj screen flashes slightly than battery chceck gets ok and stops
[18:10] <gnomefreak> s/checj/check
[18:48] <carl0s-> phatch.. that's supposed to be able to resize images in batch isn't it? All I can see is everything-but-resize. And nautilus-image-converter doesn't work/show-up in nautilus, neither does nautilus-image=manipulator. groan :(
[18:49] <carl0s-> Also, you know before this Unity window-border-up-top business, well, I could close or minimize a window that didn't have focus. Now I can't. I have to focus the window first, then I can access its close/minimise windgets, then I can click on them. So I have to click in the middle of a window/app first if I want to minimize it.
[18:50] <carl0s-> I'm feeling stressed out :(
[18:51] <carl0s-> and because I don't have a toolbar/taskbar at the bottom, I have no idea what's gonna come up when I hit alt-tab. Unless I hit "Super" first, then maybe I can see what's running, and what might get switched to with an alt-tab.
[18:51] <carl0s-> Am I just old fasioned, or are the people who make/design this stuff totally lost without my input ?
[18:51] <bazhang> phatch?
[18:52] <carl0s-> yeah.. it's a photo-batch thing
[18:52] <bazhang> yep used it quite a bit
[18:52] <carl0s-> I searched for "resize" in synaptic.. I have used phatch before though a long time ago. I've generally been using the nautilus plug-in though up until Oneiric.
[18:53] <carl0s-> i'm just gonna have to gimp each picture one by one aren't I.. :(
[18:55] <carl0s-> oh hang on, phatch has a "scale" option. that'll do ;)
[18:56] <oCean> I would just use convert --geometry in a for loop :)
[18:56] <carl0s-> meh :p
[18:56] <oCean> that's just because I'm lazy
[18:56] <carl0s-> I could, but I'd have to google bash's for terminology cos I never use it.
[18:57] <carl0s-> I can guarantee I'd miss out a semi-colon or something
[18:59] <carl0s-> phatch says IOError: decoder jpeg not available. grrr.
[19:04] <JanC> carl0s-: do you have al recommended dependencies for phatch installed?
[19:06] <carl0s-> JanC, possibly not, although I do have the python image library, and whatever else apt chose for me
[19:06] <JanC> carl0s-: and you can tell unity to keep the launcher always visible  ;)
[19:06] <carl0s-> I have just gimped them one by one anyway
[19:07] <JanC> the GIMP has a batch plugin too  :P
[19:07] <carl0s-> I'll look at that then ;)
[19:07] <oCean> do the for loop!
[19:08] <carl0s-> too late now. I could do it in dos ;) for %a in (*.jpg) do resize *.jpg *.jpg.resized
[19:08] <carl0s-> easy ;)
[19:08] <carl0s-> lol
[19:08] <carl0s-> I guess with bash I just need a semi-colone or two, and a done at the end or something, right? :)
[19:08] <JanC> carl0s-: 'gimp-plugin-registry' contains lots of unofficial GIMP plugins, including a batch processor
[19:09] <carl0s-> hey even my dos was wrong. I meant resize %a %a.resized :p
[19:09] <carl0s-> JanC, I really like the nautilus plugins though. I hope they get fixed or start working. Would that be an Ubuntu  bug report or not?
[19:09] <BluesKaj> imagemagick s great for rezing/converting jpg/jpegs
[19:10] <oCean> carl0s-: assuming there's a subdir called 'new' I would do this
[19:10] <oCean> for a in *jpg; do convert -geometry 50% $a new/$a; done
[19:10] <JanC> if they don't work, a bug report is always good
[19:11] <JanC> I think teh nautilus plugin is supposedly just a GUI frontend for Imagemagick's convert
[19:11] <carl0s-> thanks.
[19:11] <carl0s-> JanC, it might be.. right now though, it just doesn't add the "Resize.." option to the context menu. neither does the other one nautilus-image-manipulator.
[19:12] <JanC> maybe it needs changes for GNOME 3.x / Gtk 3.x nautilus?
[19:12] <JanC> that would certainly warrant a bug report  ;)
[19:13] <JanC> (if none exists yet)
[19:13] <JanC> carl0s-: I gues you did restart nautilus, right?
[19:13] <JanC> after installing it?
[19:14] <JanC> (and closing all nautilus windows doesn't restart it!)
[19:15] <carl0s-> JanC, I logged off and back on!
[19:17] <JanC> okay, just asking  ☺
[19:19] <carl0s-> the changelog for nautilus-image-resizer suggests it hasn't had any changed since september 2010.. nautilus-image-manipulator (which is "highly inspired by Nautilus Image Converter:") is more recent.. I'll try it again now, and go report a bug if it still doesn't show up :)
[19:22] <carl0s-> What do you all think about the right-click behaviour in nautilus? It appears to de-select what was clicked on, which I find to be very counter-intuitive. Right-click on an icon, and the icon/text/label becomes de-selected when the context menu appears. It makes you think you actually didn't click on the icon at all..
[19:35] <BUGabundo> grrrrr
[19:35] <BUGabundo> picked the wrong time to reboot
[19:35] <BUGabundo> no X
[19:35] <BUGabundo> had to boot into recovery and start a minimal X from there
[19:35] <BUGabundo> have shell, and a few apps
[19:37] <penguin42> is it just me or has the size of the default fonts increased considerably ?
[19:38] <BUGabundo> haven't noticed
[19:38] <BUGabundo> but DON'T REBOOT
[19:38] <BUGabundo> can someone put that on topic?
[19:39] <Ampelbein> BUGabundo: is it a problem with display drivers?
[19:40] <BUGabundo> no
[19:40] <BUGabundo> I could start it in recovery
[19:40] <BUGabundo> its a startup script
[19:40] <penguin42> BUGabundo: I updated only a few hours ago and it rebooted into the new install OK
[19:40] <Ampelbein> BUGabundo: what exactly was the error?
[19:41] <BUGabundo> Ampelbein: humm stops on boot
[19:41] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak was speaking about it earlier
[19:41] <BUGabundo> if you have the backlog , pull up
[19:42] <Ampelbein> BUGabundo: I have the backlog but there is no error message mentioned.
[19:43] <Ampelbein> BUGabundo: and my system works just fine, updated about an hour ago.
[19:43] <BUGabundo> weird
[19:43] <BUGabundo> I know I couldn't boot kernel 3 with CIFS on fstab
[19:43] <BUGabundo> 2.6.x worked
[19:43] <BUGabundo> but now, not even that
[20:23] <Dimmuxx> penguin42: it's size 11 now and I think it used to be 10. Set all fonts to 9 is usually one of the first things I do so it doesn't really matter :P
[20:24] <penguin42> Dimmuxx: Yeh, feels like something else changed as well; not sure what - although given I can't get unity to stay up that's a little hard to change properly
[20:25] <Dimmuxx> heh unity seems to be stable for me but gnome-shell crashes in less than 1 minute
[20:26] <Dimmuxx> my new laptop have a sandy brigde cpu + intel hd 3000 so I can't use 11.04 either :P
[20:32] <penguin42> Dimmuxx: I suspect that'll get fixed reasonably quickly - there are normally a few devs with the latest shiny hardware
[21:08] <elros> does gnome 3.1 work for you?
[22:09] <nperry> Hummm
[22:10] <nperry> Just fully updated to oneiric
[22:10] <nperry> Where have my appearance settings gone :/
[22:23] <zniavre> nperry, gnome-tweak-tools does it now