=== JasonO_ is now known as JasonO [08:39] Hello, if I run "objcopy --only-keep-debug" on a dynamically built binary, does this cause the resulting binary to be statically linked (uses shared libs) ? [09:04] nevermind, found out the answer (it's no) [10:50] Hi all. [10:51] Question: Do I need to know a programming launge to become a MOTU? [10:54] Depends what you do [10:54] at the very least you'll need to know make [10:55] Laney: What do you mean. "What you do"? [10:55] MOTU work encompasses many tasks [10:56] not all of them involve 'programming languages' [10:56] What do you mean many taks? [10:56] ... [10:57] here's a link for you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted [10:59] I have been considering getting involved with MOTU, but I´ḿ going to wait for developer week. [11:00] Laney: I've read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted but what are the other task MOTUs have to do un-programming related? [11:15] I've read about MOTU Mentor wiki but what exaclty does it do? [11:38] benonsoftware: generally, one needs some shell scripting for MOTU tasks. Knowing a few common programming languagues is helpful, but knowing the common build systems is far more helpful [11:39] tumbleweed: I am good at shell scripting and am just started learning Python. [11:41] the mentoring programme is a bit dead, but yes there's developer week, and generally there are people around here who will help with problems [11:43] tumbleweed: What do you mean the mentor programme is dead? :( [11:43] I was just writing my email for it now. [11:48] benonsoftware: I don't see any mail on the list between january and june. But at least there were helpful replies to people in june: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu-mentors/ [11:49] tumbleweed: I sent my appilcation to motu-mentoring-reception@reponses.net like it says on the page. Do I send it to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu-mentors/ to? [11:51] benonsoftware: As far as I knew, the programme was pretty dead, so I don't think any applications are necessary at all [11:52] tumbleweed: Oh, I've just sent mine. Where do I get a mentor/help now? [11:52] Have you had a look at the guide? The youtube videos are pretty good as well. [11:53] This guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete ? Doesn't make sense. [11:53] benonsoftware: you can get help here and possibly on the ubuntu-motu-mentors list [11:53] Ok [11:53] So I've read the getting Started page. Where do I go from there? [11:53] yes, that guide [11:54] So do I read that next? [12:02] What should I do after I have read the guide tumbleweed ? [12:19] tumbleweed: What happens when we have finsihed reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing ? [16:35] Hi all, I have a newbie question [16:35] I've made a branch with bzr branch lp:ubuntu/. Can it be compiled using pbuilder? [16:41] mgarrido: use the --builder flag of bzr-buildpackage [16:41] or create a dsc in your prefered way and use that directly [16:43] thanks jtaylor, I'll try it [17:11] is there a good way to call autoreconf from cdbs? [17:13] jtaylor: I'm not sure... scrap cdbs, use dh --with autoreconf $@ instead ? :) [17:14] thats probably best [17:16] btw its dh $@ --with autoreconf [17:18] jtaylor: OK, I think I have seen it both ways around... [17:18] its a common mistake [17:19] will be an error in compat 8 [17:19] jtaylor: Sounds like something lintian should flag, in that case. [18:30] monkey-bubble ftbs fixed, branch needs sponsoring [18:31] jtaylor: I'll look at it, thanks [18:32] its a pretty large change, dh-7 and quilt to be able to patch 2 lines in a makefile ^^ [18:32] yeah, I was going to complain about that. Then I noticed it was ubuntu-only :) [18:33] urgh@the patches [18:33] upstream seems pretty dead too [18:35] anyway, LGTM === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === JasonO_ is now known as JasonO [22:57] packages available in oneiric but not in natty can be backported right? [23:03] jtaylor: yes