[08:39] <AnAnt> Hello, if I run "objcopy --only-keep-debug" on a dynamically built binary, does this cause the resulting binary to be statically linked (uses shared libs) ?
[09:04] <AnAnt> nevermind, found out the answer (it's no)
[10:50] <benonsoftware> Hi all.
[10:51] <benonsoftware> Question: Do I need to know a programming launge to become a MOTU?
[10:54] <Laney> Depends what you do
[10:54] <Laney> at the very least you'll need to know make
[10:55] <benonsoftware> Laney: What do you mean. "What you do"?
[10:55] <Laney> MOTU work encompasses many tasks
[10:56] <Laney> not all of them involve 'programming languages'
[10:56] <benonsoftware> What do you mean many taks?
[10:56] <Laney> ...
[10:57] <Laney> here's a link for you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted
[10:59] <Jadoo1989> I have been considering getting involved with MOTU, but I´ḿ going to wait for developer week.
[11:00] <benonsoftware> Laney: I've read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted but what are the other task MOTUs have to do un-programming related?
[11:15] <benonsoftware> I've read about MOTU Mentor wiki but what exaclty does it do?
[11:38] <tumbleweed> benonsoftware: generally, one needs some shell scripting for MOTU tasks. Knowing a few common programming languagues is helpful, but knowing the common build systems is far more helpful
[11:39] <benonsoftware> tumbleweed: I am good at shell scripting and am just started learning Python.
[11:41] <tumbleweed> the mentoring programme is a bit dead, but yes there's developer week, and generally there are people around here who will help with problems
[11:43] <benonsoftware> tumbleweed: What do you mean the mentor programme is dead? :(
[11:43] <benonsoftware> I was just writing my email for it now.
[11:48] <tumbleweed> benonsoftware: I don't see any mail on the list between january and june. But at least there were helpful replies to people in june: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu-mentors/
[11:49] <benonsoftware> tumbleweed: I sent my appilcation to motu-mentoring-reception@reponses.net like it says on the page. Do I send it to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu-mentors/ to?
[11:51] <tumbleweed> benonsoftware: As far as I knew, the programme was pretty dead, so I don't think any applications are necessary at all
[11:52] <benonsoftware> tumbleweed: Oh, I've just sent mine. Where do I get a mentor/help now?
[11:52] <Jadoo1989> Have you had a look at the guide? The youtube videos are pretty good as well.
[11:53] <benonsoftware> This guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete ? Doesn't make sense.
[11:53] <tumbleweed> benonsoftware: you can get help here and possibly on the ubuntu-motu-mentors list
[11:53] <benonsoftware> Ok
[11:53] <benonsoftware> So I've read the getting Started page. Where do I go from there?
[11:53] <tumbleweed> yes, that guide
[11:54] <benonsoftware> So do I read that next?
[12:02] <benonsoftware> What should I do after I have read the guide tumbleweed ?
[12:19] <benonsoftware> tumbleweed: What happens when we have finsihed reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing ?
[16:35] <mgarrido> Hi all, I have a newbie question
[16:35] <mgarrido> I've made a branch with bzr branch lp:ubuntu/<packagename>. Can it be compiled using pbuilder?
[16:41] <jtaylor> mgarrido: use the --builder flag of bzr-buildpackage
[16:41] <jtaylor> or create a dsc in your prefered way and use that directly
[16:43] <mgarrido> thanks jtaylor, I'll try it
[17:11] <jtaylor> is there a good way to call autoreconf from cdbs?
[17:13] <jmarsden> jtaylor: I'm not sure... scrap cdbs, use dh --with autoreconf $@ instead ? :)
[17:14] <jtaylor> thats probably best
[17:16] <jtaylor> btw its dh $@ --with autoreconf
[17:18] <jmarsden> jtaylor: OK, I think I have seen it both ways around...
[17:18] <jtaylor> its a common mistake
[17:19] <jtaylor> will be an error in compat 8
[17:19] <jmarsden> jtaylor: Sounds like something lintian should flag, in that case.
[18:30] <jtaylor> monkey-bubble ftbs fixed, branch needs sponsoring
[18:31] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: I'll look at it, thanks
[18:32] <jtaylor> its a pretty large change, dh-7 and quilt to be able to patch 2 lines in a makefile ^^
[18:32] <tumbleweed> yeah, I was going to complain about that. Then I noticed it was ubuntu-only :)
[18:33] <tumbleweed> urgh@the patches
[18:33] <tumbleweed> upstream seems pretty dead too
[18:35] <tumbleweed> anyway, LGTM
[22:57] <jtaylor> packages available in oneiric but not in natty can be backported right?
[23:03] <ari-tczew> jtaylor: yes