[01:21] <ntoombs19> Hello everyone! I reciently installed ubuntu on an HP Mediasmart Home Server. I was having a problem with my network adapter (eth0) not being recognized so I researched it online and found that I simply need to update the driver for the adapter. My problem is that I don't know how to download and install the driver. I was hoping someone here could give me some magical command that would do this for me :)
[01:34] <ntoombs19> I'm having trouble getting my server to work with a static ip address
[01:34] <ntoombs19> if its dhcp, my router recognises it
[01:34] <ntoombs19> if it's static, it can't see anything
[02:02] <moosoft> hey guys, I am trying ot install ubuntu server on some pretty old hardware.  PIII, 512K RAM, SCSI hard disk and cd-rom.  It boots up fine but when it comes time to start installing it says it can't mount the cd
[02:03] <moosoft> anything I can do to get it to see it?
[02:04] <moosoft> ot/to
[02:11] <qman__> most likely a problem with the SCSI drivers
[02:12] <qman__> also, I assume you meant 512MB RAM
[02:12] <qman__> because no system has had 512k since about the 286 era
[02:12] <moosoft> heh yes I did mean that
[02:12] <qman__> fine specs for most purposes
[02:13] <qman__> but yeah, SCSI drivers are going to be your biggest issue
[02:13] <moosoft> is there a net install option?
[02:13] <qman__> if you can hook up IDE, that'd be the best bet
[02:13] <qman__> you can install over the network but you have to get a live environment first, or a PXE server running
[02:14] <qman__> I highly doubt it can boot USB
[02:14] <qman__> otherwise that would be an option
[02:14] <moosoft> doesn't even have usb ports I don't think
[02:15] <qman__> well, the P3 spans that era
[02:15] <qman__> some earlier, cheaper ones didn't have USB at all
[02:15] <qman__> some later ones had full USB boot
[02:18] <qman__> I've got a dual P3 compaq server with a SCSI array, but it has IDE CD
[02:18] <qman__> no special hoops to get it installed
[02:20] <qman__> it was made after the HP/compaq merger, but while they were still building machines under both names
[02:31] <moosoft> ok, it does have a usb port.  I missed it due to some strategic dust.  I'll try booting from usb stick
[02:46] <moosoft> ok, booting from usb is a no go
[03:02] <moosoft> I have found a way to boot the USB drive.
[03:03] <moosoft> I am using the boot manager burned to a cd from Plop (http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html) which allows me to select USB as the boot device!
[03:05] <moosoft> maybe that can help someone else someday :)  have a good weekend
[03:13] <ksx4system> how do I set up simple and actually working NAT with iptables? without firewall, no filtering (passing all trafic)
[03:13] <ksx4system> i wasted nearly 6 hours to make this work, without results
[04:16] <pmatulis> /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[04:16] <pmatulis> /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
[04:16] <pmatulis> /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -j ACCEPT
[04:16] <pmatulis> .
[04:16] <pmatulis> where eth0 is internet facing and eth1 is internal
[04:17] <pmatulis> ksx4system: ⤴
[04:21] <pmatulis> ksx4system: also, turn on routing: 'sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1'; then edit /etc/sysctl.conf to make it permanent
[04:25] <etcetera_> sorry to but you guys again, but I've had zero luck googling for a resource that describes how to install the latest mono build...
[04:25] <etcetera_> how would I go about getting mono-2.10.2 an mod_mono 2.10??
[04:27] <pmatulis> etcetera_: bake your own package.  even 11.10 only currently has 2.10.1
[04:28] <etcetera_> yikes. it's been 3 years since I booted into linux and I need to bake my own package :-(
[04:29] <qman__> it's called bleeding edge for a reason ;)
[04:30] <qman__> fortunately that's generally pretty easy, just get the source package for the most recent packaged version, copy out the debian directory, and make the new one with it
[04:31] <qman__> a lot easier than dependency hunting
[04:31] <etcetera_> hmm, https://github.com/nathanb/iws-snippets/blob/master/mono-install-scripts/ubuntu/install_mono-2.10.sh
[04:32] <etcetera_> trying to run this, but getting " : invalid option"
[04:32] <qman__> they tried to make it easy, but they don't even build a package
[04:32] <qman__> they just make install at the end
[04:32] <qman__> that's going to be a mess next time you need to update
[04:33] <etcetera_> yea...but that's not "they" that's one guys github repo.
[04:33] <etcetera_> and no way anyone would expect me to build a package at this stage.
[04:34] <qman__> well, it's leading you down the right path, I'd just install the packages it installs
[04:34] <qman__> get the sources it gets
[04:34] <qman__> then checkinstall to build a package, instead of make install
[04:34] <qman__> it's not exactly a proper packaging, but it serves the purpose of making it easy to remove
[04:35] <etcetera_> heh fair enough just replace `make install` with `checkinstall`?
[04:35] <qman__> yep
[04:35] <qman__> of course you have to install checkinstall first
[04:35] <qman__> but yeah, it'll make a .deb
[04:35] <qman__> after asking a few questions
[06:08] <dns53> i would like to move my / file system to another drive, any advice?
[06:09] <dns53> i'm thinking of booting a live cd and using dd to copy the partition
[06:09] <dns53> is  there anything i need to consider in order to boot from the copy?
[06:11] <smw> dns53, I would just mount both drives and copy the files
[06:11] <smw> ymmv
[06:12] <dns53> that will never work for databases if you like the contents
[06:13] <dns53> you cannot safely copy a writeable file system as a file may change while you copy it
[06:15] <erichammond> Who's in charge of keeping servers running at Canonical and how do we contact them?  http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/ is down
[06:16] <dns53> i think they had an admin channel on freenode, let me look
[08:45] <dns53> hmm i cloned a disk with dd, now both devices have the same uuid
[09:14] <andol> dns53: tune2fs -U ought to be able to help you
[09:16] <andol> dns53: Note that I haven't done it myself, but based on the man page an educated *guess* is "sudo tune2fs -U random /dev/sdXN"
[09:34] <thcx1> hi
[09:35] <Syria> Hi
[09:36] <Syria> Is it okay that I update the .htpasswd file manually? without using the command line?
[09:36] <thcx1> hi try to make a mail server with this features: fetch the mail from 3 account into a local mail imap server-. I can try to see the same mail from 3 different client at the same time. Is it possible to make a mail server only with dovecot + fetchmail?
[10:20] <dns53> andol thx, i googled it and that is what you need to do
[10:43] <jabbathehutt> hey i found out something cool
[10:43] <jabbathehutt> type
[10:43] <jabbathehutt> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda        in your terminal
[10:43] <oCean> !ops
[10:44] <jabbathehutt> .....
[10:44] <Syria> ?
[10:59] <erichammond> uec-images.ubuntu.com is now responding to pings, but the web server still isn't accepting connections.
[12:00]  * mattt stares at jabbathehutt
[12:33] <RoyK> matti: he left just after trolling
[12:33] <RoyK> mattt: or perhaps I'd answer you instead :P
[12:33] <RoyK> ^^
[12:33] <RoyK> ^kill uvirtbot
[12:37]  * mattt stares at RoyK
[12:37] <mattt> :P
[13:43] <azertyu> hello
[13:43] <azertyu> i can't sudo su - on my ubuntu lucid
[13:43] <azertyu>  sudo su - sudo: must be setuid root
[13:43] <genii-around> azertyu: Please don't post the same question in multiple channels
[13:44] <azertyu> lol is there any problem ? U
[13:46] <genii-around> azertyu: You should ask your question in the channel for the distribution you are having the problem with..eg: ubuntu problem...#ubuntu  ..ubuntu server problem ..#ubuntu-server ...and so on
[13:46] <azertyu> can anyone help me to ignore an user ?
[16:22] <djdexter> i have ubuntu server and lamp.. how to link when i create new user to have its own WWW space
[16:24] <JanC> djdexter: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/public_html.html
[16:52] <ksx4system> how do I use Dropbear (dbclient) as ssh client (= ssh command) after un-installing openssh-client?
[17:15] <jmarsden> ksx4system: dbclient user@example.com     # should work fine
[19:32] <ksx4system> jmarsden: i know how to use dbclient :P i just needed to use command ssh for dbclient, a symbolic link fixed this
[22:29] <matti> RoyK: Hehe, you wanted matt, didn't you? :)
[22:42] <dassouki> any dropbox like apps i can use on my server?
[22:44] <JanC> dassouki: what exactly do you need?
[22:45] <dassouki> make a folder on my server for fast gui access, one of our isps blocks dropbox
[22:46] <JanC> fast GUI access for yourself or others?
[22:46] <dassouki> myself only
[22:46] <JanC> so, just use ssh/sftp?
[22:46] <dassouki> well, if i'm on my windows machine, I can't just click on an app's File/Open and open the file
[22:47] <JanC> you can if you have an ssh/scp/sftp plugin for Explorer
[22:47] <qman__> that, or you could VPN and use samba
[22:47] <JanC> not sure if there exists one that is open source or freeware
[22:47] <amero> hey
[22:47] <dassouki> i'm willing to pay
[22:47] <dassouki> well within $50
[22:48] <JanC> I remember one was included with the "Homesite" editor, 10 years ago  ;)
[22:48] <qman__> openvpn's pretty easy to do
[22:49] <dassouki> and i have openvpn setup
[22:49] <dassouki> as that's how i connect to my field counters in the middle of knowhere
[22:49] <JanC> then you could use samba, just make sure samba isn't exposed externally on the server
[22:49] <qman__> you'll take a performance hit over a direct solution
[22:49] <dassouki> that's another story ... $10  a month to have a phone line installed $1,000 to get a electrical wire to the box
[22:49] <qman__> but not much, 10% at the most
[22:49] <amero> any idea why these rules block outgoing get request from being established
[22:49] <amero> http://pastebin.com/wdKKFSvG
[22:50] <dassouki> so why isn't there an opensource alternative to drop box?
[22:50] <dassouki> free or not
[22:50] <qman__> there are, just not for windows
[22:50] <qman__> ubuntu one is basically the same idea
[22:50] <JanC> dassouki: you could try ubuntuone for windows, which is experimental AFAIK  ;)
[22:51] <JanC> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Windows
[22:52] <dassouki> JanC: i guess, I have my own server, I was just wondering if there was an app i could've instaleld
[22:53] <qman__> amero, you're not allowing related,established on any actual interfaces, just the vmnet0
[22:53] <JanC> http://www.swish-sftp.org/ seems useful  ;)
[22:54] <dassouki> what's your experience with CRMs ? I run a 3 person shop, and I was considering using Zimbra
[22:55] <dassouki> any other solutions you might recommend for a server / mail solution, CRM,etc ?
[22:55] <JanC> (seriously, why does one need open source to make Windows usable? :P )
[22:56] <JanC> do you mean groupware or CRM or both?
[22:56] <dassouki> JanC: Cause linux fails at niche apps for non/programmers non itfield ppl
[22:56] <dassouki> i mean both
[22:56] <amero> qman__: why venet0 isnt the actual interface?
[22:57] <JanC> dassouki: linux includes proper support by default, it's Windows tah tneeds all sorts of cludges (provided by open source apps) ;)
[22:59] <JanC> I didn't know Zimbra did real CRM
[23:00] <dassouki> http://gallery.zimbra.com/category/crm/recent
[23:00] <dassouki> but anyways, All I'm trying to do is setup a server to run most of our needs, scheduler, mail-server, crm etc
[23:00] <JanC> ah, using plugins
[23:01] <dassouki> My budget would be around $200 to $500
[23:01] <dassouki> to setup the whole shebang
[23:02] <JanC> sorry, not much experience with that; maybe somebody else can help with that
[23:02] <JanC> it might be possible to cobble everything together from open source too
[23:03] <dassouki> well some opensource costs money
[23:03] <dassouki> i'm willing to pay if i can save a headache and not have to get an it/sys admin
[23:03] <JanC> well, if you want other people to cobble things together...  ;)
[23:04] <dassouki> ya there's elance for that lol
[23:06] <JanC> I think you should also make a list of what exactly you need from that CRM etc.
[23:07] <JanC> for example SugarCRM might be overkill for what you need  ;)
[23:07] <jeeves_moss> how can I configure NTPd to accept NTP requests from global external requests?
[23:11] <jMCg> Which of uname -i, -m, -p returns i386 on a 32bit system?
[23:12] <jMCg> I suppose `arch` does..
[23:13] <matti> jMCg: 32 bit might parse with i[0-9]86 ...
[23:13] <matti> jMCg: It might be i386, i686 ...
[23:14] <matti> jMCg: Probably everything not x86_64 is 32 bit on Intel / AMD platform.
[23:14] <matti> Well, besides Itanium ;]
[23:14] <jMCg> matti: don't want to parse, want to use to create lib/foo-linux-gnu style directory.
[23:14] <jMCg> matti: that will be ia64.
[23:14] <matti> Yes.
[23:15] <matti> Use arch then.
[23:15] <matti> I you need auto-discovery or something, or simply ship the directory you want ;]
[23:16] <jMCg> building my own stack from software from /trunk/ - it's.. fun :D
[23:16] <jeeves_moss> how can I configure NTPd to accept NTP requests from global external requests?
[23:17] <jpds> jeeves_moss: Remove the restrict clauses?
[23:17] <matti> jeeves_moss: Remove restrictions I guess.
[23:17] <matti> jpds: Hey hey hey ;]
[23:20] <JanC> jMCg: it seems that when run inside a Xen VM, only "uname -m" returns something useful for me
[23:21] <JanC> the other two return "unknown" there
[23:23] <jMCg> JanC: arch too?
[23:23] <jMCg> JanC: and what is the useful in this case?
[23:24] <JanC> arch returns the same as "uname -m", so that's useful too
[23:24] <JanC> they return "x86_64" in this case
[23:25] <jMCg> That are not the 32bit I was looking for ;)
[23:25] <JanC> ah, right
[23:25] <JanC> stuill, might be useful to know that the other 2 uname options are useless ;)
[23:25] <jMCg> JanC: 's fine, I'll stick with arch
[23:26] <JanC> I could check in a 32-bit VM I guess
[23:28] <JanC> jMCg: seems like both 'arch' and 'uname -m' return i686 inside a virtualbox VM
[23:28] <jMCg> JanC: weird. And which gives you i386 on 32?
[23:29] <JanC> is one supposed to?
[23:31] <JanC> maybe something related to building/linking ?