[01:41] <BugeyeD> _marx_: if i'm in town (questionable at this point), i'll suck down some java sure
[01:41] <BugeyeD> MarkB1: wow, biggers ... haven't seen that name in awhile. :)
[01:42] <BugeyeD> MarkB1: i work in winston at 5-points (stratford/1st/miller/country club). i'm a sysadmin among other things, and use python daily.
[01:42] <_marx_> you don't do any python eh BugeyeD
[01:42] <BugeyeD> MarkB1: doesn't make me good at python necessarily, and i certainly don't consider myself a developer. i just write my own tools.
[01:43] <BugeyeD> _marx_: love python. just saw in the scrollback someone mentioning folks not complaining about python if they'd come from another language.
[01:44] <BugeyeD> _marx_: i was a perl captive for years. i now *hate* dealing with perl. python has me somewhat spoiled.
[01:44] <BugeyeD> of course there's nothing necessarily wrong with perl - but python does seem to fit me better.
[01:45] <BugeyeD> _marx_: i'm wearing a morningdew shirt today. didn't get a chance to walk into a starbucks. :)
[01:46] <_marx_> ah that would have been cool :)
[01:46] <_marx_> hell were it to krankies; i think there's a rift there
[01:47] <BugeyeD> i visit krankies sometimes, but mostly just the airstream and the owner of that is an old friend. i do downtown when you call mostly. :)
[01:48] <_marx_> the airstream on reynolda?
[01:48] <BugeyeD> MarkB1: were you one of the friends-of-zope awhile back? if so, you still doing that? and is that why you asked about python devs?
[01:48] <BugeyeD> _marx_: yup. tommy priest runs that thing. at least i think he does. he seems to be in charge, and i think he does the facebook page too.
[01:49] <_marx_> oh i guess that is easy to get to from where you work
[01:49] <_marx_> i hit the dt one when working in old salem or at gateway
[01:50] <BugeyeD> MarkB1: i tried getting into plone, and loved it but skinning it for customers was rediculously intricate (5 books later, i know that it takes something like 5 languages to do a good job of it - or at least it used to).
[01:50] <BugeyeD> MarkB1: despite my hatred/distrust for php, i've been using concrete5 cms for customers and have been happy so far.
[01:52] <BugeyeD> _marx_: yeah, it's like a 2 minute drive including stoplights. i still get the same thing - a double macchiato sweetened a bit. good stuff. not at all what starbucks sells.
[02:06]  * BugeyeD is settling down with a little vino now, and will contemplate a krankies' macchiato tomorrow morning ... caffeine and python. num num num.