=== pedro is now known as pedrolmota === himcesjf1 is now known as himcesjf === pedrolmota is now known as pedro === pedro is now known as pedrolmota === sayakb is now known as sayakb_away [00:32] Hi === disse|off is now known as disse === disse is now known as disse|off [01:05] hello [01:06] hi guys [01:06] hi erika [01:11] hi SIR_Taco, erika and everyone without any way of typing. [01:12] hi lcb [01:12] SIR_Taco: do you use xsane by any chance? [01:13] trying to discover how to change scansource on the latest version [01:13] * Linkmaster pays close attention to this [01:13] Linkmaster: i don't know, sorry. [01:13] lcb: nope, I don't have a scanner [01:13] SIR_Taco: it's ok. [01:14] doesn't mean I can't help... just means maybe not lol [01:14] I was hoping someone would know, that printer I worked on earlier, it has a scanner, and it'd be nice to know how to do the scanning stuff *before* my mom gets linux installed [01:14] if you see the official page there is a scan source option. however on my installation there is none [01:15] SIR_Taco: it's ok, still :p [01:15] Linkmaster: if the driver installs properly i believe the scanner will work too [01:16] lcb: isn't there a sane front-end for KDE? [01:16] Hmm, okay. I'll find out how to use it [01:16] SIR_Taco: i installed all soft available.... and yes, there is one, let me see [01:18] SIR_Taco: scanlite [01:18] oh yea, that's it... doesn't show your scanner in there either? [01:19] SIR_Taco: that one does not detect this scanner [01:19] but the 'saned' back-end should... regardless of the UI [01:20] xsane [01:20] how about in the console/konsole typing "sane-find-scanner" [01:20] yes, it detects. however i need to change from flatbed to feeder [01:20] ooooh [01:21] found USB scanner (vendor=0x07b3, product=0x045f [600dpi USB Scanner], chip=GT-6816) at libusb:003:004 [01:21] found USB scanner (vendor=0x0bda, product=0x8189) at libusb:001:002 [01:22] $ scanimage -L > device `gt68xx:libusb:003:004' is a Iris Iriscan Express 2 flatbed scanner [01:22] is not a flatbed [01:23] it's working already but on my win virtual max. but i want it to work in kubu [01:23] have you went through this: http://linux.about.com/od/linux101/a/desktop05d.htm ? [01:23] let me see [01:24] seems there are settings for feeders [01:24] SIR_Taco: i'll read that too. [01:24] i went over a lot of docs trying to solve this [01:25] lcb: let me know if it solves it or not... I'll keep looking [01:26] but, reading that, it makes me wonder if it's a limitation of drivers... [01:26] SIR_Taco: i believe is something to do with the driver ( cism216.fw ) but i also believe that's the only one available [01:26] yeap [01:26] does the driver give a list of available options? [01:26] driver/firmaware [01:28] SIR_Taco: hmm good point. i only instructed gt68xx.conf to point to that one and that's it [01:28] I'm wonder if you can set custom options in xsane, in order to apease the driver [01:29] SIR_Taco: i'll search for that .fw options, probably i need to insert some in gt68xx.conf [01:30] lcb: likely... I'm not sure... I haven't had the need for a scanner in Linux [01:31] i did this pastbin some hrs ago. http://paste.ubuntu.com/636920/ but probably things already changed. pls take a look in case some idea come to ur mind [01:31] i'll go over all commands again if needed [01:32] give me a minute [01:32] this is a portable scanner, very useful for me ... if working of course. well it works, but under win. [01:33] SIR_Taco: take your time. no worries. i have about 50 yrs ahead [01:34] i think something's wrong with Linkmaster today.... so quiet... he did something or is about to [01:34] I'll let you find out >:) [01:34] oh oh.. [01:35] * lcb activates paranoidand closes all ports mode [01:35] geee [01:35] * lcb activates paranoid mode closes all ports [01:35] * Linkmaster access's lcb's computer through his IRC port [01:36] nah nah... is closed. i'm talking trough my microwave prototype pc [01:36] well, back to work on this scann thingy [01:36] lch: how about http://www.meier-geinitz.de/sane/gt68xx-backend/ ? [01:37] hello [01:37] SIR_Taco: i took a shortcut on that one by installing the recommended .fw. but yes, i'll read it all now [01:37] does the KDE 4.7 PPA include KDE-PIM w/ Akonadi? [01:38] xjjk: hello [01:38] I'm under the impression 4.6.4 from the PPA doesn't include it [01:41] SIR_Taco: Plustek OpticSlim 1200 CIS 6816 0x07b3 0x0413 cism216.fw Works. High resolutions are slow. The firmware is not hosted on my pages, so no guarantees... [01:41] this ware the default one. didn't work [01:42] the firmware is the same [01:43] SIR_Taco: i foloowed this, before. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/simple-scan/+question/139890 [01:50] lcb: it's a scanner/printer? or just a scanner? [01:51] SIR_Taco: scanner. http://www.irislink.com/c2-1656-189/IRIScan-2-------Overview-of-IRIScan-2-Portable-Scanner.aspx [01:52] lcb: ok, that makes more sense [01:54] SIR_Taco: i just removed everything from /etc/sane.d/gt68xx.conf and left the lines for this scanner only -> firmware "/usr/share/sane/gt68xx/cism216.fw" [01:55] going for reboot. saving things 1st [01:56] brb [01:56] ok [02:01] still detected as a flatbed :( "Failed to start scanner. Document feeder out of documents". [02:02] ohh boy [02:03] ok, that's it. going back to windows. [02:03] i mean, i'm going to this room windows area and think if i trow this trough it or not. [02:04] lcb: and you've been through this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1059096.html ? [02:05] in my sane config i only have: # Iriscan Express 2 | usb 0x07b3 0x045f | firmware "/usr/share/sane/gt68xx/cism216.fw" [02:05] anything using KDE 4.7? does it include Akonadi-based KDEPIM yet? [02:05] even this way, removing everything else, doesn't work [02:06] xjjk: my things, i mean, my computers, are not using it yet, sorry [02:07] lcb: mm, okay [02:07] neither is mine [02:07] I wanted to switch to Akonadi-based KDEPIM and disconnected IMAP or whatever it's called now [02:07] AFAIK it's in the experimental PPA for 4.6.4 still [02:07] xjjk: yes I do believe it is [02:08] xjjk: why moved to that release already? [02:08] lcb: why is what moved? [02:08] "release" [02:08] KDE 4.7 [02:09] er, still not sure what you're asking [02:09] hello checking perpose [02:10] k i can able to chat properly this is first timt i am entering into quessel IRC [02:11] kumaran: seems so [02:11] k i can able to chat properly this is first time i am entering into quessel IRC [02:11] xjjk: isn't the one 11.04 is officially using KDE 4.6.4? [02:11] kumaran: also seems so [02:11] lcb: AFAIK, no, 11.04 is officially using 4.6.3 [02:11] or 4.6.2 [02:11] yeh, 4.6.2 apparently [02:12] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-release-464 [02:12] lcb: you need to be using the Kubuntu Updates PPA for that [02:12] xjjk: there is no KDE 4.7 yet, it's still in beta... well I would call it alpha... [02:12] BATi: it's in RC [02:12] lcb: as far as the company is concerned it "works under Linux".... have you tried e-mailing them with your problem? [02:12] and sorry for my english i had installed quessel IRC can u give me a tip to have long run in quessel [02:12] xjjk: ahh ok. and my question was, why moving to the one not well tested yet [02:13] lcb: er, KDE 4.7 or Akonadi-based KDEPIM? [02:13] I want the latter; I want to switch to disconnected IMAP [02:13] I'm at 4.6.3 [02:13] SIR_Taco: not yet, but i will because i really need this scanner [02:13] xjjk: ummm... if you wish to call it RC, suit yourself :) still lots of bugs [02:13] BATi: I didn't call it RC; KDE's release team did [02:14] lcb: well I can't find a solution... and if they "support" it, they should be able to give you an answer, I would hope anyway [02:14] SIR_Taco: it's ok. thanks a lot buddy :) [02:14] kumaran: not sure what you mean [02:14] lcb: not a problem [02:15] SIR_Taco: is working under Win VM, so it will be used. but you know.. why turning on the win when it must work under kubuntu?!.. [02:15] ru a Ruby on Rails Developer [02:16] Taco RU there?? [02:16] i think he just left [02:16] lcb: very true! Atleast you have a bandaid until a solution somes [02:16] yeap [02:16] xjjk: right... nevertheless it's not meant for daily use, as stated by same kde release team... and that is why it is in kubuntu's experimental ppa [02:17] *comes.... lol [02:17] hehehe [02:17] BATi: er, Akonadi KDEPIM is in the experimental PPA [02:17] BATi: KDE 4.7 is in the beta PPA [02:17] kumaran: no... I do a lot of PHP/Java [02:17] SIR_Taco: you are learnig with my typos [02:17] learning either [02:17] lcb: seems so lol [02:17] BATi: I'm completely fine testing beta releases [02:17] but if I am switching to Akonadi [02:17] I only want to download my 5 GB e-mail inbox once [02:18] xjjk: using K-mail? [02:18] SIR_Taco: yes [02:18] xjjk: you don't happen to use disconnected imap, right? [02:18] BATi: I'd like to w/ Akonadi [02:18] I don't use it pre-Akonadi [02:18] been burned too many times [02:19] and it was pointless reporting bugs back then [02:19] since it's now in the "release" I'd like to make an effort [02:20] xjjk: I do believe that with the Akonadi/PIM integration with Kmail, there is a transition program... I do not believe it pulls from the server, but it's something to look up [02:20] SIR_Taco: yeah, I rather not bother [02:20] and start with a fresh disconnected IMAP with an Akonadi-based setup [02:21] xjjk: you'd rather ask other's to look it up for you? [02:21] SIR_Taco: er, look up what? either someone is using it or isn't? [02:21] SIR_Taco: kde.org says Akonadi-based KDEPIM is in 4.6.4 and 4.7 [02:21] Kubuntu is different [02:21] don't think my question is off-topic? where am I supposed to figure this out [02:22] other than downloading gigabytes to check myself [02:22] i never used Akonadi. does it integrates with moz thunderbird? [02:22] xjjk: I didn't say your question wasy off-topic [02:22] lcb: no [02:23] oh too bad. [02:23] lcb: supposedly, Akonadi will bring the whole offline storage/searching that Thunderbird has to KMail [02:23] SIR_Taco: do you use kmail? [02:23] lcb: supposedly, anyway [02:24] i'm used to thunderbird but i really need to take a look on kmail [02:24] just now i installed kmail [02:24] lcb: well honestly if you're used to it, no reason to switch [02:24] I like KMail [02:25] it has 2 or 3 features that are a *pain* to get w/ Thunderbird [02:25] and I like the KDE integration [02:25] xjjk: comparable with thunder or you never used it? [02:25] lcb: it's comparable [02:25] lcb: I use Thunderbird on some Windows machines [02:25] hmm so i really might make the move [02:25] it's not my main client [02:25] but it's good enough for casual checking [02:25] and the offline/searching features are fantastic [02:26] kmail? [02:26] lcb: Thunderbird [02:26] ah ok [02:26] lcb: no I don't use Kmail... [02:27] xjjk: the last time I looked at Kmail with Akonadi/PIM integration... there was a "Migrate" program built in, and it did it fine, without re-downloading all of your e-mails [02:27] SIR_Taco: I see [02:28] that was about a year ago now... I would like to think it hasn't changed [02:28] SIR_Taco: for the sake of integration on KDE (too bad there are some good softs left aside) i already realized is better to use the kububntu default ones [02:29] ... but.. i refuse to use rekonq [02:29] lcb: I agree... I really like Thunderbird [02:29] lcb: aww, how come? Its getting a lot better [02:30] Linkmaster: you are awake? [02:30] For now [02:30] or dreaming alowd ? [02:30] :p [02:31] SIR_Taco: i need to test that kmail on a virtual machine before messing with this, to compare with thunder [02:31] lcb: excellent idea... might want to suggest that to xjjk as well [02:32] eh lot of work [02:32] I don't have enough disk space on my laptop for VMs [02:32] SIR_Taco: mixing mail clients on the same machine is a step closer to mess all email accounts [02:33] xjjk: why you don't connect your laptop with the power cord and remove the battery? :o you'll have some more space [02:33] j/k j/k [02:34] lcb: I've an SSD [02:34] I've only 6 GB free ATM, and I need it [02:34] SSDs are getting bigger and bigger [02:35] but not cheaper and cheaper [02:35] lol, yea [02:35] at least, not very much [02:35] my model has dropped $200 since I bought it [02:35] i.e., from a fortune to extremely expensive [02:37] xjjk: there is a "migration" feature built-in to Kmail 2, to get you from Kmal 1.x... [02:37] xjjk: I cannont, at this time, tell you 100% that your email wont be eaten... it's still in testing [02:37] SIR_Taco: yeah, that's why I rather not migrate [02:38] SIR_Taco: I'm still bugged about Nepomuk [02:38] I had all these files tagged and rated [02:38] well, a backup would be useful [02:38] and lost it all with a borked Nepomuk 6 migration [02:38] I won't lose my e-mail since I'm smart enough to backup everything properly [02:38] but 5 gb is a lot to download again [02:38] especially over IMAP [02:39] * xjjk does not have fast/reliable inet, he's at a cafe now [02:39] xjjk: then wait until something very stable comes out [02:40] no point in upgrading for the saake of upgrading [02:40] xjjk: you could use some of the fre storage places, like dropbox, google, etc [02:40] free [02:40] lcb: for mail? [02:40] SIR_Taco: mmm well I just want to know if the feature I want is _there_ or whether Kubuntu packaged it differently [02:40] for the backups [02:40] all other risks I'm fine to take [02:42] Linkmaster: what's going on? are you ok? [02:42] xjjk: but you worried about downloads? [02:42] SIR_Taco: yes [02:42] lcb: theres nothing wrong [02:42] SIR_Taco: I only have satellite at home, it's slow and has data caps [02:42] SIR_Taco: all other downloading I have to do at a cafe [02:42] Starbucks needs faster Internet [02:42] I never get faster than 150 KB/sec [02:43] I suppose they have a T1 [02:43] Linkmaster: good to know [02:43] most definitely [02:43] xjjk: ah ok [02:43] lcb: Linkmaster is busy humourng me in offtopic.... lol [02:43] ohh [02:43] ty guys, think I am just going to upgrade [02:44] Akonadi KDEPIM appears to be in Kubuntu's 4.7 [02:44] xjjk: give it a shot, it *should* work [02:44] and *should* migrate [02:45] xjjk: worst case scenario... you have to drink 2 more Vente Vanilla Lates.... [02:49] xjjk: it would be nice to hear how it goes though === vag is now known as vag__ === vag__ is now known as vag [04:08] Hi,all who used the tool openvas? [05:29] I just loaded up lancelot..it'll take a few days to accustom myself to it, but its quite a nice launcher :D [05:51] bug with process kded4 (using 100% CPU) solved already? === himcesjf1 is now known as himcesjf === alicia__ is now known as alromor === MatusT_ is now known as MatusT [09:56] hey guys [09:56] ya know of a room that might be able to help me with working with different video formats [09:56] and trying to convert a ogv file to a mp4 file [09:57] hey [09:57] luxima [09:57] could you help me with something? [09:57] andrewh192: take a look at handbrake or vlc [09:57] well [09:57] i sorta figured it out on vlc [09:57] but just not sure the different settings [09:58] and how it all works [09:58] what's incapsalation or whatever mean? [09:58] The best format to upload your videofiles in are MP4 25 or 30 frames pr. second, 1280 * 720 resolution (16:9) and aprx. 3 mbit/sec. A file in this specification should have a filesize aprx. 25mb pr. minut video. [09:58] If you just started using PodcastMachine we recommend you to test your video source file by uploading a small subset of the file - for example a 10 seconds clip, before uploading the full file. In this way you are absolutely sure that you get the expected result from your source file when uploading it to PodcastMachine. You can always delete the test-uploads. After uploading your file and it becomes "ready" - if you dont see you [09:58] episode under build-a-player - the format you uploaded was not recognized by PodcastMachine. If this happens then try to upload in another format. Newer versions of Windows Media and newer versions of FLV are currently unsupported. [09:58] The maximum filesize you can upload is 1GB. [09:58] andrewh192: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [09:59] http://paste.ubuntu.com/637419/ [10:01] andrewh192: H.264 is very, very complicated [10:01] as is video encoding in general [10:01] andrewh192: use the defaults [10:01] ok [10:01] andrewh192: the file you posted lays out what parameters you need to tune [10:01] unless you really really care, ignore everything else [10:02] not worth dealing with [10:02] what's encapsulation mean? [10:02] and how is that different than the video codec? [10:02] what's the context [10:02] oh, is this from vlc? [10:03] yeah [10:03] think that refers to the container [10:03] that's what i am using [10:03] ugh, encapsulation is a terrible word to use [10:03] andrewh192: you can have different "containers" that hold different codecs [10:03] ok [10:03] avi, mp4, ogg [10:03] are all containers [10:03] does it really matter? [10:03] yes [10:03] which one should i use then? [10:03] you need to use what the tool you're working with supports [10:03] which is probably mp4 [10:04] ok [10:04] yeah [10:04] which I believe it says [10:04] though not clearly [10:04] yeah, what i copied and pasted on there, is just from a support page on the podcast site that i use [10:05] why uploading video to a podcast site? [10:05] because... [10:05] i wanted to have a video podcast episode [10:05] hrm, Ok [10:06] i have one audio episode, and now i have a webcam (insert gasp here) and i wanted to do a video episode [10:06] u have any better suggestions? [10:06] i am totally open [10:06] ehh I am generally anti-media [10:06] it's too slow to listen to audio or video [10:06] oh [10:07] so u just read everything? [10:07] if I can read something over watching a video/listening to a podcast [10:07] I do [10:07] gotcha [10:07] hmm [10:07] ok [10:07] personal preference [10:07] gotcha [10:07] yeah, i understand === disse|off is now known as disse [11:27] heyhey [11:27] i don't have any power profile to configure in powermanagement.. latest kde.. [11:28] or is there any other way to config power profiles? where they are saved? [11:31] pretty much impossible that you don't have any, you should have at least one [11:31] and if you change anything about it, you can then save these settings either as the same or as a new profile [11:39] szal: idon't have any.. an also cant' create a new or change any.. :( but i canswitch between them.. strange [11:39] i have it, but can't configure it [12:58] Howdy [13:28] hi, am trying to install transperante oxygen on ubuntu kde desktop but no luck, can anyone help me? === disse is now known as disse|off [14:06] When I boot Im getting grub_putchar not found error. How can I fix it? [14:12] ubuntu____, when grub loads , choose recovery kernel , then in the dialog choose "repair broken packages" , then reboot [14:13] BluesKaj: grub doesn't load. I get that error before even seing grub [14:14] ubuntu____, so does booy hang at that error or what happens next ? [14:14] boot [14:14] I get that error and then I get grub rescue console [14:15] Hi all! [14:15] ubuntu____, ok run sudo update-grub at the prompt [14:16] and then? [14:16] (I'm currently on the same PC using a livecd) [14:17] probly won't hurt to sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [14:17] then reboot [14:18] ok, I'll be back in a few minutes if my pc doesn't die [14:19] thx [14:19] oh sorry , I missed that you were on the lkive cd ...thought you had a tty prompt on the install [14:19] oops . oh well , he'll bb [14:22] hhaaaaaaaaaa [14:26] hi all, I'm using Kubuntu 11.04 64 bit and I have problems with my sound card; there is a way to change pulse audio with alsa? [14:26] S74rk7, nice to see you have faith in amarok ..it's not working properly at all on my setup [14:27] pelletta, yes, just remove pulseaudio, it's layerd on top of alsa [14:27] on my setup amarok works well, but microphone doesn't want to work [14:28] amarok does do what's supposed to , won'r load music . doesn't save the location etc ..it's amess [14:30] BluesKaj: thats a shame... what distro are you using? [14:30] there is a command to remove pulse by konsole or I should do this using synaptic? Sorry I'm new to linux os [14:31] BluesKaj: it used to mess around for me on 64bit kubuntu... but I'm running 32bit atm n seems ok... havent tried transfering any music though... [14:33] Would anyone be able to help me out with usb_modeswitch --- I'm trying to get a netgear wnda3200 usb wifi dongle to work... it acts as a mass storage device when I connect it to the computer... I tried reading the man pages of usb_modeswitch but it doesnt really give much insight on how to use it ... well for me anyway...still a n00b :) [14:33] S74rk7, it doesn't really matter , I've never really liked amarok that much..vlc works wel for al my media [14:34] BluesKaj: I'm a fan of VLC myself :) [14:35] never used modeswitch, S74rk7...no experince with it ..lsusb shows it as a storge device ? [14:35] !paste [14:35] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [14:37] pelletta,you can use the konsole or synaptic ..both will accomplish the same task [14:39] BluesKaj: well in the logs it shows it as a storage device... trying to get you a screenshot ... [14:39] pelletta, in the konsole , sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio , if you wish [14:39] thanks [14:41] S74rk7, no need ...what we need to do is to find out how do the modeswitch so that the pc sees the wifi firmware and not the file system [14:46] BluesKaj: Even searching "usb_modeswitch how to use" and variations its hard to find any clear instructions? [14:47] S74rk7, I found this but. I'm not a fan of ndiswrapper setups , tried them a few times and they nalways break on mine http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=885520 [14:51] BluesKaj: Thanks I'll give it a read now :) I read something somewhere about ndiswrapper and using that method though that it can only connect at 2.4ghz rather that 5... but I'll read this see if it says any different :) Thanks very much for looking btw ! [14:55] S74rk7, also make sure you have the package "usb-modeswitch" installed ..should be by default. [15:04] Any Glass fish usrer??? [15:08] BluesKaj: I do it is installed ok... just have no idea how to use it :S lol [15:14] S74rk7, the nomodeswitch is supposed to send the command to switch on the wifi , and the windows driver required for ndiswrapper should be there as well [15:15] it should snd the command automatically when the usb device is connected [15:19] er modeswitch [15:27] ukk mukk fukk [15:27] S74rk7, take a look here and read the debian readme , looks like this will get your modeswitch working , /usr/share/doc/usb-modeswitch-data/ [15:33] BluesKaj: Cool thank you... reading it now :) [15:34] Hi all [15:36] hi! [15:36] BluesKaj: I've stumbled onto the guys site - got the address from that readme... hopefully find something here... [15:36] BluesKaj: Much appreciated all your help so far :) === disse|off is now known as disse [15:56] My battery applet on my main panel is often reporting the wrong level. i think its reporting 1/10 the actual charge (i confirmed real charge with acpi command) === disse is now known as disse|off === disse|off is now known as disse === satd3vil is now known as satd3vil__ === szal is now known as und === und is now known as szal [18:57] last update broke flash , any suggestions [19:02] kyubutsu: try and reinstall flash [19:03] Linkmaster: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree? [19:03] try using a package manager [19:04] there are two different packages for flash , just so you know [19:05] both useless too [19:06] i had chromium properly setup and this new update to flash broke it , can anyone tell me what's going on [19:07] broke on two puters , so that cant be coincidence [19:07] Hmm...I haven't yet had a problem with it. How exactly is it 'broken'? [19:07] the flash that's in the repositories is the exact same flash that comes from adobe, in fact all the package does is download flash from adobe [19:08] if it's broke, then adobe broke it [19:08] hi there, ive got question, ive got installed kubuntu 10.10, now i want to install windows 7 beside kubuntu, what i have to do with grub? [19:08] Also, what I did when my flash broke a long time ago, I used the package manager to remove adobe, install gnash, see if it works fine, if so, I leave it be, if not, I uninstall gnash, and install the adobe one, and it normally works after that [19:09] Wojtulas: go ahead and just install windows, then follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub (from a LiveCD) [19:10] the easier approach is to install windows first, then ubuntu, as it will then detect the windows install and add an option for it [19:10] so Linkmaster, tsimpson.. have you check kpackagekit ? do you see that flash update ? run it and tell me what happens to your flash [19:11] I have 10.3.181.26ubuntu0.10.04.1 (from Lucid) [19:11] flash works fine [19:11] tsimpson: thank you,now i have to install windows because i need windows :) thanks :) [19:11] lucky you. am 11.04 [19:11] it's the same thing, just backported to 10.04 [19:12] kyubutsu: chuck KPK, its been better since 10.10 and 11.04, but put Muon on it, its really nice, and similar to KPK [19:12] Linkmaster: i do not need such advice [19:13] I'm just saying, Muon is easier to navigate then KPK, and flash automatically updated..try what I said earlier, and see if it works [19:14] kpackagekit is fine, my issue is a trust issue, now i cant trust these browser/flash/java updates in fear of borkness , crappy [19:15] the conventional 'reinstalling' method usually doesnt work for me so now i am back to square one setting up flash ! 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