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| faina | I'm trying to build packages for the firefox sync server, and have a question about packaging python mako templates. | 03:46 |
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| faina | should the templates be compiled to .py files and then included -- done some how in the debian/rules, or should I try to figure out some where to cache them when compiled after installation? | 03:48 |
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| maxb | Hm, if a package was removed from Debian in plenty of time before DebianImportFreeze, and there are no ubuntu modifications, shouldn't it have automatically been removed from oneiric too? | 12:24 |
| jtaylor | I don't think its automatic | 12:43 |
| jtaylor | must be requested | 12:43 |
| tumbleweed | maxb: removal isn't automatic, archive admins occasionally look at removals in Debian | 12:43 |
| tumbleweed | it's not necessary to explicitly request it when Debian has removed it | 12:43 |
| maxb | ah | 13:09 |
| bdrung | persia: re your dmb mail: all this should be documented somewhere (e.g. wiki page) | 14:05 |
| ansgar | Does Ubuntu already allow packages (both source and binary) to use XZ compression? | 15:12 |
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| persia | bdrung: Absolutely. If the TB doesn't change it, let's put it in the wiki | 18:13 |
| Laney | Basically it's what (most of us) thought we were doing anyway. | 18:14 |
| Laney | but thanks for spelling it out | 18:14 |
| persia | I should probably rely less on memetic transmission and more on documentation :) | 18:14 |
| Laney | at least it's in the ML archives | 18:15 |
| Laney | that's a form of documentation. | 18:15 |
| persia | I thought it was in the minutes of some meeting before. Anyway, we should have iut in the wiki, as we'll forget again in another couple years. | 18:16 |
| Laney | yep. after the tb speaks. | 18:18 |
| faina | I was trying to build a debian package of the firefox sync server and ran into a python packaging policy question. They're using mako templates which compile to .py files. I was trying to figure out if it'd be better to compile the templates into the package, compile them into a cache directory at runtime on the installed systemm, or compile them when the package is installed. | 18:23 |
| persia | faina: Create the .py files at build time. Let the system generate the .pyc files at install time. Do not build anything at package creation time. | 18:28 |
| faina | Ok, I'd almost convinced myself that the template compiling should be done at install time, as that'd be like the current .py -> .pyc policy. | 18:30 |
| faina | But I think compiling at build time would be a lot easier | 18:30 |
| persia | Indeed. Saves lots of compute cycles worldwide. | 18:31 |
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| faina | why is there the build .pyc at install-time policy? Oh... because you don't know which versions of python are installed | 18:32 |
| persia | Right :) | 18:32 |
| faina | thank you... I've been trying to figure out a good answer to that question for a couple of days | 18:33 |
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| jMCg | Hello happy people. | 22:33 |
| jMCg | I'm a traffic server dev, and I'm trying to repro this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=632546 | 22:34 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 632546 in trafficserver "trafficserver: FTBFS with ld --as-needed" [Normal,Open] | 22:34 |
| jMCg | On Natty this builds fine, so if I get this right, these symbols don't exist in Natty's libssl. | 22:35 |
| tumbleweed | jMCg: daemonkeeper was just asking the same questions in #debian-ubuntu on OFTC | 22:36 |
| jMCg | tumbleweed: I'll be there for less.. uh.. stuff. | 22:37 |
| tumbleweed | you'll only see this occur in pre-release natty or oneiric. ld stopped using --as-needed by default for natty release, because not all packages were building yet | 22:37 |
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