=== dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [03:46] I'm trying to build packages for the firefox sync server, and have a question about packaging python mako templates. [03:48] should the templates be compiled to .py files and then included -- done some how in the debian/rules, or should I try to figure out some where to cache them when compiled after installation? === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === korn_ is now known as c_korn [12:24] Hm, if a package was removed from Debian in plenty of time before DebianImportFreeze, and there are no ubuntu modifications, shouldn't it have automatically been removed from oneiric too? [12:43] I don't think its automatic [12:43] must be requested [12:43] maxb: removal isn't automatic, archive admins occasionally look at removals in Debian [12:43] it's not necessary to explicitly request it when Debian has removed it [13:09] ah [14:05] persia: re your dmb mail: all this should be documented somewhere (e.g. wiki page) [15:12] Does Ubuntu already allow packages (both source and binary) to use XZ compression? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [18:13] bdrung: Absolutely. If the TB doesn't change it, let's put it in the wiki [18:14] Basically it's what (most of us) thought we were doing anyway. [18:14] but thanks for spelling it out [18:14] I should probably rely less on memetic transmission and more on documentation :) [18:15] at least it's in the ML archives [18:15] that's a form of documentation. [18:16] I thought it was in the minutes of some meeting before. Anyway, we should have iut in the wiki, as we'll forget again in another couple years. [18:18] yep. after the tb speaks. [18:23] I was trying to build a debian package of the firefox sync server and ran into a python packaging policy question. They're using mako templates which compile to .py files. I was trying to figure out if it'd be better to compile the templates into the package, compile them into a cache directory at runtime on the installed systemm, or compile them when the package is installed. [18:28] faina: Create the .py files at build time. Let the system generate the .pyc files at install time. Do not build anything at package creation time. [18:30] Ok, I'd almost convinced myself that the template compiling should be done at install time, as that'd be like the current .py -> .pyc policy. [18:30] But I think compiling at build time would be a lot easier [18:31] Indeed. Saves lots of compute cycles worldwide. === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [18:32] why is there the build .pyc at install-time policy? Oh... because you don't know which versions of python are installed [18:32] Right :) [18:33] thank you... I've been trying to figure out a good answer to that question for a couple of days === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === james is now known as Guest95885 === yofel_ is now known as yofel === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [22:33] Hello happy people. [22:34] I'm a traffic server dev, and I'm trying to repro this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=632546 [22:34] Debian bug 632546 in trafficserver "trafficserver: FTBFS with ld --as-needed" [Normal,Open] [22:35] On Natty this builds fine, so if I get this right, these symbols don't exist in Natty's libssl. [22:36] jMCg: daemonkeeper was just asking the same questions in #debian-ubuntu on OFTC [22:37] tumbleweed: I'll be there for less.. uh.. stuff. [22:37] you'll only see this occur in pre-release natty or oneiric. ld stopped using --as-needed by default for natty release, because not all packages were building yet