[01:39] <benonsoftware> Hi all.
[01:39] <ari-tczew> hi benonsoftware
[01:39] <benonsoftware> Hi
[01:41] <benonsoftware> Question: What happens when we have finsihed reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing ?
[01:41] <benonsoftware>  
[01:42] <ari-tczew> benonsoftware: start contribution? ;-)
[01:42] <benonsoftware> Have any ideas on what?
[01:42] <micahg> benonsoftware: does anything appeal to you out of the lists of contributions?
[01:44] <benonsoftware> Another Question: What does Preparing New Packages mean?
[01:45] <micahg> benonsoftware: creating Debian packaging for some piece of software from sctract
[01:45] <micahg> *scratch
[01:45] <benonsoftware> How would I do that?
[01:46] <micahg> benonsoftware: the packaging guide describes how to do that, but I'd suggest starting with something easier
[01:46] <benonsoftware> Do you have a idea?
[01:46] <micahg> benonsoftware: well, what's your background?
[01:49] <benonsoftware> python
[01:50] <micahg> benonsoftware: you could fix open bugs in python packages
[01:55] <benonsoftware> Ok.
[01:55] <benonsoftware> Know any good packages to start of with micahg ?
[01:56] <micahg> benonsoftware: well, I always suggest stuff that you're running
[01:58] <benonsoftware> What packages do you like that are in Python?
[02:01] <micahg> idk, I'm still learning python
[02:02] <benonsoftware> Where are you learning it from micahg ?
[02:02] <micahg> nowhere in particular, was told to use the python documentation as a guide
[02:03] <benonsoftware> OK
[02:04] <Jadoo1989> Python books are notoriously crappy.
[02:04] <benonsoftware> I've heard
[02:05] <benonsoftware> Even C++/C books are great as door stops
[02:05] <Jadoo1989> I like some C books. C Primer Plus was a great book
[02:06] <benonsoftware> I had Teach Yourself C++ in 21 days.
[02:06] <benonsoftware> 21 hours later...
[02:06] <benonsoftware> Using it as a door stop.
[02:06] <Jadoo1989> Haha
[02:06] <Jadoo1989> theres  a C++ version, called C++ Primer Plus, I believe
[02:07] <Jadoo1989> not sure if it is of the same quality as the C book.
[02:07] <benonsoftware> I hate the in 21 days books.
[02:07] <Jadoo1989> I never used them. Sounds too much like a gimmick
[02:08] <micahg> benonsoftware: you could look at the build failures here and see if you can fix any of the ones in the python packages: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/oneiric.html
[02:11] <benonsoftware> Do any of you know what GCC is built with?
[02:11] <benonsoftware> Proberly C> :)
[02:11] <micahg> gcc is built with gcc :)
[02:11] <benonsoftware> What?
[02:13] <benonsoftware> So what is it built with?
[02:17] <micahg> gcc
[02:17] <Jadoo1989> gcc is written in C.
[02:18] <micahg> and c++ these days
[02:19] <Jadoo1989> eah
[02:19] <Jadoo1989> for some front ends
[02:19] <Jadoo1989> i believe
[02:20] <benonsoftware> What's Eah?
[02:21] <Jadoo1989> my y key is dodgy
[02:21] <Jadoo1989> so it should say yeah
[05:34] <benonsoftware> What version of Python should I use for MOTU
[05:38] <benonsoftware> So what version should I use then?
[06:47] <benonsoftware> HI all.
[09:11] <bones_> does anyone here do notify-osd programming?
[09:16] <benonsoftware> What?
[09:19] <tumbleweed> bones_: #ubuntu-desktop or #ayatana people are probably more likely to be familiar with it.
[09:51] <Jadoo1989> oops
[09:51] <Jadoo1989> accidentally left
[09:51] <Jadoo1989> :P
[09:57] <benonsoftware> Just like me ;p
[18:36] <EvilPhoenix> is there a specific MOTU I should talk to regarding arranging a class session on Ubuntu Packaging?  Specifically, I'd like to arrange for an MOTU to run a session somewhere about the REVU process for getting apps into a release's repos
[18:55] <tumbleweed> EvilPhoenix: we recommend new packages go via Debian where possible. Debian's stronger maintainership may help packages from being neglected, and generally it brings the package to a wider audience
[23:42] <micahg> wow, gnash has 454 build-deps...
[23:54] <Laney> lucas: i'd like to link to the UDD schema - could you trigger a manual update so that the new tables show up?
[23:55] <Laney> btw you probably want to flip only-recent again