[00:02] <brobostigon> good night everyone, sleep well.
[00:33] <gord> i know people say linux is hard to use... but i just gave up trying to get remote desktop working in windows, windows is way harder
[00:37] <penguin42> gord: I did it a few years back (probably last time I used Windows) - rdesktop did actually work quite well
[00:38] <gord> i'm talking about the built in one
[00:38] <gord> for windows 7
[00:38] <gord> its like a mind game
[00:39] <gord> ah, now windows firewall has decided to block everything on the network
[04:07] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jono Bacon] Back From Dublin - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/07/03/back-from-dublin/
[07:03] <danfish> morning
[07:03] <MartijnVdS> \o
[07:04] <danfish> unfortunately my 2 year old wakes with the sunrise :(
[07:04] <MartijnVdS> what's unfortunate about that?
[07:04] <MartijnVdS> gives you the entire day do do nothing! :)
[07:04] <danfish> daddy doesn't like getting up at 0430!
[07:05] <MartijnVdS> Time for better curtains?
[07:05] <danfish> they're blackout curtains already, but light still seems to get in
[07:06] <danfish> still, I've finished updating all PC's in the house to 11.04
[07:07] <MartijnVdS> see, it's useful to be up early :P
[07:11] <danfish> it is also a stunning morning here weatherwise
[07:11] <danfish> might have breakfast in the garden
[10:09] <daubers> Morning
[10:12]  * daubers needs to write some blog stuff, download an ubuntu iso and sort out his laptop today
[10:43] <Gaara> He
[10:43] <Gaara> No user list :3
[10:43] <Gaara> This irc client sux
[10:43] <Gaara> NEXT!
[10:51] <daubers> Quiet around here this morning
[10:52] <DJones> Morning all
[11:07] <daubers> o/
[11:20] <daubers> Ah.... that's a bit better
[11:27] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[11:27] <daubers> o/
[11:27] <brobostigon> o/
[11:28]  * daubers so needs an ssd
[11:30]  * brobostigon is starting to hate androids FB client, it is slow, and unstable.
[11:35] <daubers> brobostigon: I've only been using it a few days but am not having any problems
[11:37] <brobostigon> daubers: the thing that is significant, it is much slower at loading, and scrolling, and loading different parts of the app, aswell as higher memory and cpu usage.
[11:38] <daubers> brobostigon: Not noticed that on mine
[11:38] <brobostigon> daubers: what android are you on? i am using AOSP 2.3.4
[11:39] <daubers> brobostigon: What phone/firmware?
[11:39] <daubers> I'm still on 2.3.3 as that's what came with the Galaxy S II
[11:39] <brobostigon> daubers: AOSP 2.3.4 htc dream
[11:40] <brobostigon> everything else is working fine, except this.
[11:42] <AlanBell> morning all
[11:43] <daubers> Morning AlanBell
[11:44] <daubers> AlanBell: I've a 24TB box (18TB useable) set aside for oggcamp now \o/ (as long as my boss doesn't sell it....)
[11:45] <brobostigon> morning AlanBell
[11:54] <AlanBell> daubers: awesome :)
[11:56] <daubers> AlanBell: It's got a 10GbE trunk link in, so I'll try and grab a switch as well
[12:07] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Matt Daubney] Day 3: Printers and Development - http://daubers.co.uk/2011/07/03/day-3-printers-and-development/
[12:18]  * AlanBell likes openshot integration with Blender in Oneiric
[12:20] <AlanBell> in fact this is awesome, it can do rendered animated titles from a template
[12:22] <gord> i can't use the new blender =\
[12:22] <gord> they changed the keybindings, so i try and do something and it takes me somewhere else, so i try and get out of there and i get taken to a third place! its a maze
[12:23] <AlanBell> I just fired it up and thought, finally, a blender I can use!
[12:23] <gord> yeah i'm sure its much better for people who are new to blender :) i am just stuck in my ways
[12:25] <gord> trying to sign up to a website, it wants me to put in a "nickname" but it has to be over six characters. i don't think they understand the concept of a nickname
[12:25] <gord> haha and i can't use "special characters" in my password. on geez
[12:27] <brobostigon> oneiric has the same blender version as in debian sid,
[12:27] <AlanBell> yay, I have unity running again on the oneiric box
[12:27] <MartijnVdS> \o/
[12:27] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: now start calibre ;)
[12:27] <gord> woo, what was the problem?
[12:27] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: or full-screen vlc
[12:27] <AlanBell> brobostigon: yes, they synced it because it couldn't install
[12:27] <brobostigon> AlanBell: ah,i see.
[12:28] <AlanBell> gord: I tried to do something in ccsm so it fell over in a heap
[12:28] <AlanBell> just wish it had a better failure mode than booting to an empty wallpaper
[12:28] <gord> if your session is set up correctly it should restart compiz if compiz crashes
[12:29] <AlanBell> still can't run it on my main laptop for reasons I can't figure out
[12:29] <MartijnVdS> gord: it doesn't restart the decorator bit if that crashes though
[12:29] <AlanBell> compiz was running, but the unity plugin wasn't
[12:30] <AlanBell> just trying to turn on the cube means it conflicts with wall and unity depends on something that provides largedesktop which they both do, but it disables itself during the process
[12:30] <daubers> Apparently there are some people demonstrating Win 7 in the oracle in Reading...... tempting to go along and have some fun
[12:30] <scoundrel50a> a couple of weeks ago, I ende up for one reason or another, installer via a .deb package, Oneiric. Now, since then I havent updated it, as I still cannot get the backlight to work, despite some help, it just wont run. I would like to be able to update. The only way I can do it, is remote ssh using my other computer, but I cannot remember the command, its a simple one, ssh ipaddress something, but I cannot remember the something....can some
[12:30] <scoundrel50a> body help?
[12:31] <AlanBell> touch almost anything in ccsm and the unity plugin gets turned off
[12:31] <AlanBell> hi scoundrel50a
[12:31] <scoundrel50a> Installing a kernel, I should say
[12:31] <scoundrel50a> must make that clear
[12:31] <AlanBell> ah you installed the Oneiric kernel
[12:31] <scoundrel50a> yes
[12:31] <AlanBell> know the package name for it?
[12:32] <AlanBell> if so sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[12:32] <gord> compiz plugins are such a pain, they all conflict and such =\
[12:32] <gord> sure would be nice if there were more compiz developers fixing all that ;)
[12:32] <scoundrel50a> I want to update the kernel
[12:32] <scoundrel50a> see if anything has happened that fixes the backlight problem
[12:33] <AlanBell> gord: yeah, I understand that, just it seems unity depends on too much stuff
[12:33] <scoundrel50a> I can do it via ssh, but I cant remember the full command
[12:33] <scoundrel50a> to get to connect to this computer, using my other computer to update it
[12:34] <AlanBell> I don't get why it has a hard dependency on largedesktop
[12:34] <gord> AlanBell, i honestly don't know too much about the compiz->unity interactions, but yeah, it should be more fluid, let the user use whatever wall/cube they want, its just tricky inside compiz because compiz basically just says "here, do gl, don't worry about other plugins, just do gl"
[12:35] <AlanBell> yeah, just wish unity would last a bit longer on my machines
[12:36] <AlanBell> I want to do some compiz development too, I was just trying to get a dev environment set up and I end up without a desktop
[12:36] <AlanBell> want to add text cursor tracking to enhanced zoom
[12:36] <scoundrel50a> I think i have the first bit ssh ipaddress  what else
[12:37] <gord> iirc we are getting one of our compiz devs to do a -classroom talk - so maybe pay attention there?
[12:37] <AlanBell> gord: smspillaz did one a while back, I have been referring to that
[12:37] <gord> yeah him doing it again :)
[12:37] <gord> yell at him till he makes it nice to dev in ;)
[12:38] <AlanBell> scoundrel50a: ok, so ssh user@ipaddress asks for your password then gets you a terminal on the other machine
[12:38] <AlanBell> gord: yeah, will do
[12:39] <scoundrel50a> ah, that is why I couldnt get it to work, thank you
[12:39] <AlanBell> you can do "ssh ipaddress" if the user name is the same on both sides
[12:39] <scoundrel50a> anybody know if the backlight problem is going to be fixed?
[12:40] <scoundrel50a> mo, usernames different on both pc's
[12:40] <AlanBell> scoundrel50a: where is the bug for the backlight problem
[12:40] <scoundrel50a> I did try what you just said, but couldnt get it to work
[12:41] <scoundrel50a> I cant remember what number it is, popey connect a while back, and tried to take a look, and he couldnt get it to work
[12:41] <scoundrel50a> one sec I'll go take a look for the bug
[12:42] <AlanBell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~scoundrel50a you need to subscribe to it when you find it
[12:43] <scoundrel50a> I have a different uesrname on launchpad, I'm trying to find it, one sec, sorry
[12:46] <scoundrel50a> 759104 its marke high
[12:47] <scoundrel50a> you need to read it through to get the whole message, and things I HAVE ADDED
[12:47] <scoundrel50a> oops, sorry for the capitols
[12:48] <daubers> bug #759104
[12:49] <scoundrel50a> oh sorry, I dont know how to add bug numbers, thank you for doing that
[12:51] <scoundrel50a> going to log off for a while see if I can update. What commands should I use?
[12:52] <scoundrel50a> I'll boot into the Oneiroc kernel, then connect
[12:52] <scoundrel50a> I just want the Oneric kernel to update
[13:00] <scoundrel50a> ok, trying to see if I can connect, before I log off, but it keeps telling me connection refused, even though I have ticked the router settings to allow ssh, why would that happen, do I need to reboot the laptop to get it to work?
[13:04] <scoundrel50a> cant connect, says connection refused,
[13:04] <scoundrel50a> anybody?
[13:06] <scoundrel50a> where did everybody go?
[13:07] <scoundrel50a> thanks
[13:09] <AlanBell> I went to cut the grass, and now I am off for lunch :)
[13:09] <AlanBell> IRC operates at a slow pace, there is no hurry
[13:12]  * suprengr wonders if AlanBell means he is about to go harvesting the marijuana crop ;)
[13:36]  * daubers had gourmet sausage sandwiches and made the coffee
[13:40] <AlanBell> I think if I am doing blender rendering I should probably not do it on an Atom chip
[13:41] <daubers> ...... probably not unless you want to wait a loooooooooooooooong time
[13:42] <AlanBell> the OLPC is probably not going to be good either
[13:45] <AlanBell> however it looks like it might be possible to run it on my Natty laptop without catastrophic package breakage https://answers.launchpad.net/openshot/+faq/1299
[13:50] <daubers> What machines have you got for editing on at Oggcamp?
[13:51] <AlanBell> several atom class boxen
[13:51] <daubers> Ah....
[13:52] <daubers> That may be... slow
[13:54] <AlanBell> it might
[13:54] <daubers> I can donate my Core 2 laptop to the cause for the weekend and I can probably build another good (running a xeon of some kind) machine for the weekend as well
[13:54] <daubers> How many are needed?
[13:54] <AlanBell> there are three tracks
[13:55] <daubers> So at least 3, possibly four?
[13:58] <AlanBell> yeah
[13:59] <AlanBell> my core i3 laptop is ok, but if I try anything that maxes out the CPU it does a sudo halt after a minute or two
[13:59] <AlanBell> like it did just then
[14:00] <AlanBell> I can also use my core i7 980ex server in the cloud which will render stuff fast
[14:00] <xapel> Anyone else also have a problem with the twitter stream in Gwibber lately?
[14:00] <daubers> AlanBell: Might take a while to get stuff to it though
[14:01] <AlanBell> daubers: just thinking about the title rendering
[14:01] <daubers> AlanBell: Ah, ok. I'm more worried about rendering the thing with the title added to the front
[14:01] <daubers> Especially if we're rendering down to a different quality level for immediate upload
[14:01] <AlanBell> that isn't too bad, it can't go faster than real time anyway I think
[14:02] <daubers> Even on an atom?
[14:03] <AlanBell> I think so, I was doing real time on a P4 1.6ghz which should be slower than an atom
[14:03] <daubers> What codec where you rendering too?
[14:03] <AlanBell> dunno, I need to do further testing on that
[14:04] <daubers> heh :) h264 takes a fair amount of time, as does xvid
[14:04] <daubers> h264 is generally playable on anything. I've no idea about rendering times to webm or ogv
[14:04] <AlanBell> only needs to be rendered to something youtube won't barf on
[14:05] <popey> i have a nice script which will convert to flv, ogv and webm
[14:05] <AlanBell> and they will take .ogg if you are careful
[14:05] <AlanBell> .ogv rather
[14:05] <popey> so render out to something ffmpeg can cope with and then use the script to convert to other formats
[14:05] <brobostigon> xapel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/789851 i am experiencing that, myself.
[14:06] <daubers> http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=55744
[14:06] <daubers> Doesn't suggest ogv unless it's webm
[14:06]  * AlanBell installs openshot and blender on mumble.libertus.co.uk
[14:07] <popey> I'd do flv/h264
[14:08] <daubers> I'd just do h264, and then the NAS box has enough umpf to render to other codecs
[14:08] <AlanBell> doesn't youtube re-encode anyway?
[14:09] <daubers> render out to whatever while uploading to youtube
[14:10] <AlanBell> just installing h264 codec on the atom box
[14:20] <AlanBell> cloud based rendering isn't as spectacularly fast as I hoped
[14:22] <AlanBell> however for the titles they just need to be done in advance, or 3 within an hour so they are ready to meet the video
[14:25] <daubers> So we use the best machine possible for the titles
[14:27] <AlanBell> perhaps, it has a budget of 20 minutes per title, or if we have three machines then they can spend an hour each
[14:33] <daubers> How long does your atom box take to render the title?
[14:34] <AlanBell> well we don't have a title design yet, so this is random openshot defaults
[14:35] <daubers> heh :) Not found a blender dude yet?
[14:35] <AlanBell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/oggcamptitle1.mpeg
[14:35] <AlanBell> found several blender peeps, not given them the brief yet
[14:35] <daubers> ah, ok
[14:36]  * daubers hates java
[14:36]  * StevenR wishes some of these events were up in the North.UK :(
[14:36] <AlanBell> that mpeg was rendered on the i7 and exported to standard youtube square NTSC
[14:36] <AlanBell> StevenR: go organise one
[14:36] <daubers> AlanBell: How long did it take roughly?
[14:36] <AlanBell> we totally will support it marketing wise
[14:37] <AlanBell> daubers: 15 minutes or so for the rendering I think (including installing blender)
[14:37] <AlanBell> I will do some timings later
[14:38] <AlanBell> and I will do an H264 export in a sec
[14:39] <AlanBell> StevenR: the last oggcamp was in Liverpool
[14:41] <toast> hi all - gotta quick question - like a tool i mispelt my machine name on setup - this is really beginning to annoy me now - is it straightforward to change the name and will any servers on this machine start acting up if i do?
[14:42] <toast> not public servers just sofware dev stuff
[14:47] <daubers> toast: You need to change /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts you could add the old alias to hosts to help prevent breakage, but no idea what else that might break
[14:48] <daubers> i.e. it is done at your own risk :)
[14:48] <daubers> Google around for "changing hostname linux"
[14:51] <AlanBell> anyone know why my laptop does a controlled shutdown if I max out the CPU for a bit?
[14:51] <AlanBell> presume it is some kind of heat protection thing going on
[14:52] <_serial_> sounds like over heating... my laptop kicks out around 100c
[14:52] <AlanBell> yeah, could understand if it locked up or something but it doesn't, it does a controlled halt
[14:53] <_serial_> does your laptop boot straight away when it has shut down?
[14:53] <AlanBell> yes
[14:53] <AlanBell> http://burnz.wordpress.com/2009/02/23/ubuntu-auto-shutdown-due-to-high-cpu-temperature/ this seems about right
[14:54] <AlanBell> syslog:300:Jul  3 13:54:52 alanlaptop kernel: [243523.233981] Critical temperature reached (89 C), shutting down.
[14:54] <_serial_> do any of you guys know if the log files would contain any over heating information?
[14:54] <_serial_> bargain :)
[14:54] <_serial_> yup over heating
[14:55] <_serial_> i fixed my laptop with a fresh bit of thermal compound and heat pads for gpu etc
[14:56] <toast> daubers:  cheers!
[14:56] <StevenR> AlanBell: toastywarm (tm)
[14:57] <StevenR> AlanBell: fluff in the cooling fan/ducts?
[14:57] <AlanBell> might be time to clean it out a bit
[15:04] <daubers> \o/ got my android app to talk to a sqlite database! Now just need to write the stuff to get the xml off the web to populate it when it's created
[15:07] <popey> i took my laptop apart to clear out the dust
[15:07] <popey> works much better now
[15:08]  * StevenR has a tray for his laptop (so when I don't sit at a table, I have my laptop on the tray and it doesn't get full of fluff from my lap)
[15:12] <_serial_> snap popey
[15:30] <AlanBell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/oggcamp.mov that is in youtube HD format apparently
[15:54] <popey> AlanBell / daubers http://paste.ubuntu.com/637514/
[15:54] <popey> I do two pass encoding for h264 (libx264)
[16:02] <s-fox> Hello.
[17:04] <penguin42> tis nice out there
[17:17] <reaper4334> it always seems quieter on here when the weather's nice out
[17:44] <StevenR> MartijnVdS, AlanJenkins: I've sorted my audio out, thanks for the help yesterday :) .... The solution: MPD, with two output points "local pulseaudio" and "http stream". I can use vlc to play the stream on my laptop. This means I can switch between outputs while playing, and have one unified "audio place" for control.
[17:44] <Myrtti> mpd ♥
[17:45] <brobostigon> n800 :)
[17:45] <Myrtti> yeah, I used mpd on it
[17:45] <Myrtti> and 770
[17:46] <brobostigon> i am trying at the moment, to get arduino output, visalised on n800, so using as an incar control.
[17:47] <Azelphur> anyone know how I can delete the last line of a very large file?
[17:48] <Azelphur> nano 100% cpu's and just messes me about :/
[17:52] <popey> Azelphur: sed '$d' file > newfile
[17:52] <Azelphur> ty :D
[17:54] <StevenR> Azelphur: nano would probably work, but large files are hard.
[17:54] <StevenR> so you might just need to be patient :)
[17:55] <Azelphur> popey's method got it :P
[17:56] <penguin42> popey: Oh that's quite nice
[17:57] <penguin42> head -n -1 should also work
[18:42] <daubers> La lal la la la
[18:45] <pwb> Hi
[18:55] <^aDaM> Evenings all :)
[18:55] <^aDaM> I have a bit of a problem, I am trying to update Firefox to 5.0.. Im running Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty).
[18:56] <^aDaM> I seen on google how to update via Update Manager, so I tryed that an it failed badly I get a error message when I try opening it?
[18:57] <suprengr> & a load of glorious summer evening wishes to y'all
[18:57] <^aDaM> Here is a Copy of the Error message on Pastebin and a Screenshot..
[18:57] <suprengr> ^aDaM, tried Ubuntuzilla?
[18:57] <^aDaM> http://pastebin.com/njKQYvnh
[18:57] <^aDaM> suprengr: Nope :/
[18:58] <suprengr> hang on will see if i've still got a link to it
[18:58] <^aDaM> Screenshot of Error message..
[18:58] <^aDaM> suprengr: Thanks, but no ta.. I just wan't to solve the issue with my Update Manager first :)
[18:58] <^aDaM> http://i54.tinypic.com/15wncar.png
[18:59] <suprengr> ^aDaM, .. np -that's cool
[19:00] <^aDaM> suprengr: :)
[19:00] <pwb> I have just downloaded ubuntu is an Antivirus needed
[19:00] <^aDaM> Show me after..
[19:00] <^aDaM> pwb: No.
[19:01] <pwb> ok thnxs
[19:01] <^aDaM> pwb: You won't get spam either, most you will get is hacked if you are in Root lol.
[19:01] <^aDaM> And also a POP UP no an then :p
[19:01] <penguin42> pwb: If the update manager tells you to update then do it!
[19:02] <^aDaM> pwb: Ohh and what ever you do, do not.. I repeat, DO NOT TYPE FGKBV IN THE TERMINAL ;)
[19:02] <pwb> ok thanks only I just d/l 11.4 so I'm new
[19:02] <^aDaM> penguin42: Hehe at your reply, it's ment to be for me not pwb ;P
[19:02] <^aDaM> pwb: Cool, here is the right place to start :)
[19:03] <^aDaM> Welcome my friend, hope you enjoy using Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty).
[19:04] <pwb> One mor ? what file do you open to install a d/l
[19:04] <penguin42> what type of d/l?
[19:05] <suprengr> ^aDaM,  just a thought... sudo apt-get check  ?
[19:05] <^aDaM> Yea if it is Windows related pwb, you will need to use Wine to install .exe, win32 programfiles etc..
[19:05] <pwb> Any type none in particular
[19:05] <^aDaM> suprengr: Hmm ok.
[19:06] <^aDaM> pwb: Ok, so eg.. say you want VLC Player to play movies such as .avi files etc..
[19:06] <^aDaM> Go to Terminal, it should be on your left handside on the Taskbar..
[19:07] <pwb> I heard about wine but I see there are diff ones to install
[19:07] <^aDaM> If not go to topleft of the screen where the White Ubuntu logo is an click Media Apps..
[19:07] <^aDaM> Then Accessoires..
[19:07] <pwb> I looked for terminal cant find it
[19:08] <^aDaM> Yea there are diffrent ones pwb, look on Google .. but I prefer Wine :P
[19:08] <pwb> just called wine?
[19:10] <^aDaM> Sorry about that pwb..
[19:10] <^aDaM> My connection went :D
[19:10] <pwb> NP
[19:11] <^aDaM> Right make sure that you have clicked 'more then one result' above where the apps are..
[19:11] <^aDaM> You will see the Terminal then.
[19:12] <^aDaM> Just the right of where it says, 'Installed Apps'.
[19:12] <^aDaM> :P
[19:12] <^aDaM> Hit that Terminal open, and type
[19:12] <^aDaM> Sudo apt-get install vlc
[19:12] <^aDaM> type your password for your username ..
[19:13] <^aDaM> It will load files an then it will say Y/N blinkin you just press y enter :P
[19:13] <^aDaM> an it installs once its done just type vlc an it will open, hope that helps..
[19:13] <^aDaM> so do the same, sudo apt-get install but with wine ;)
[19:14] <pwb> ok thanks guys i'll be back later but got to go now
[19:14] <Laney> what's wrong with software centre?
[20:07] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Tony] Elisabeth Sladen - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2011/04/19/elisabeth-sladen/
[20:07] <Myrtti> o____^
[20:31] <AlanBell> Myrtti: looks like tony's blog feed refed it
[20:36] <AlanBell> well I totally failed to get at the fan on this laptop
[20:36] <AlanBell> removed 22 screws
[20:36] <AlanBell> still wouldn't come apart
[20:37] <AlanBell> replaced 21 screws
[20:38] <Azelphur> the TIME+ value in top is how much CPU time the process uses right?
[20:38] <AlanBell> yeah, roughly
[20:39] <AlanBell> dunno if it is normalised for multi-core systems at all
[20:40] <Azelphur> hehe
[20:57] <ball> Has anyone here tried Ubuntu (pref. Xubuntu) on one of these new AMD "Fusion" things?  I'm thinking of an E-350 board for my sister-in-law's new PC.
[20:58] <directhex> just a phenom with low-end radeon built in, isn't it?
[20:58] <ball> directhex: I was thinking more like the Athlon II... doubt it has much L3 cache.
[20:58] <ball> (if any)
[20:59] <directhex> have amd put out a chip to rival intel for years?
[21:00] <ball> directhex: Their cores are slower, but I just picked up a Phenom II X4 for Mrs. ball because it should work in her existing mainboard and give her a speed kick over the single-core Athlon she has now.
[21:00] <hamitron> yes
[21:02] <hamitron> directhex: but I'd guess, only if you want to worry about budget?
[21:02] <ball> I just wondered whether the GPU part of a Fusion chip was used much by a Linux system, beyond Compiz
[21:02] <ali1234> the prices aren't actually that different if you compare performance
[21:02] <ball> ...are there Linux systems that use OpenCL for maths?
[21:03] <hamitron> ali1234: I agree if only looking at the cpu, but motherboards with more features also cost less on AMD
[21:04] <hamitron> I really wanted an intel cpu on my latest build, but the motherboards with the features, just cost too much
[21:05] <directhex> wifey's new build is intel
[21:05] <directhex> the cpu has a gpu, but i don't think the mobo chipset exposes it
[21:06] <hamitron> I'm hoping to use the onboard gpu on my intel sometime :/
[21:06] <hamitron> dunno if it will end well that :)
[21:07] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Tony] Splendid chaps, all of them - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2011/07/03/splendid-chaps-all-of-them/
[21:17] <Kirior> silly question, any1 got google+ invites to give away?
[21:19] <pwb> i tried to d/l google chrome but it wont install
[21:50] <AlanBell> what is the package that does the avahi DNS discovery thing so I can type myserver.local in a browser and it resolves by magic?
[21:52] <brobostigon> AlanBell: avahi-deamon ?
[21:52] <brobostigon> avahi-autoipd ?
[21:53] <AlanBell> cool, thanks
[21:53] <brobostigon> there are dozens of avahi* packages.
[22:02] <Laney> I think it's avahi-daemon actually
[22:02] <Laney> see the package description
[22:33] <JGJones> Quick question - what other recommended alternatives would you give for DynDNS.com (which also use ddclient?) - I've tried to get ddclient to work with DynDNS.com but it never can find my domain, or I get invalid login etc etc)
[22:48] <ali1234> anyone know where i can get some organizer boxes?
[22:48] <ali1234> for cheap?
[22:50] <hamitron> for nuts and bolts, kinda thing?
[22:50] <ali1234> yeah
[22:50] <ali1234> http://www.criaturascreativas.com/756-1377-thickbox/plastic-organizer-box.jpg
[22:50] <ali1234> this kind of thing
[22:51] <ali1234> must be made of that kind of transparent plastic, must have a range of different size compartments, must NOT have removable dividers because i hate those
[22:51] <ali1234> and above all must be super cheap
[22:51] <AlanBell> JGJones: no-ip.info perhaps
[22:52] <hamitron> ali1234: my Dad tends to get a lot of that kind of thing from screwfix
[22:52] <hamitron> not sure if they supply them empty though
[22:52] <ali1234> the website is down :(
[22:52] <hamitron> oh :/
[23:36] <brobostigon> good night everyone, sleep well.