[00:00] <westz> potataoes_never_, offtopic: opera? what the hell?
[00:00] <i2iot> I'm having  trouble finding my Ubuntu PC on my Windows PC Network listing
[00:00] <potataoes_never_> westz: I'm used to it, what's wrong?
[00:00] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  I am coming up with nothing,, for this,, I will keep thinking and searching,,, maybe someon can jump in in the mean time
[00:00] <i2iot> I have used "File Sharing" and "Personal File Sharing" to no avail
[00:00] <i2iot> they both seem to be configured
[00:01] <guitar> got a question...any takers
[00:01] <westz> potataoes_never_, its just.... opera? nobody likes opera. it's the m. night shyamalan of browsers
[00:02] <westz> guitar: ASK FIRST
[00:02] <coz_> potataoes_never_,   you dont want any browser?
[00:02] <potataoes_never_> westz: how so?
[00:02] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  or just chromium?
[00:02] <qin> westz: Opera is best, and I like it!
[00:02] <guitar> first, i've tried to change my nic name from guitar to dave (actual guitar dave)
[00:02] <westz> potataoes_never_, does it even support third party addons?
[00:02] <guitar> with no luck
[00:02] <guitar> sup wes
[00:02] <iniesta6>  i got a warning :
[00:02] <westz> just register with the name you want, it's not hard
[00:03] <potataoes_never_> westz: I have no idea, I've never had to use something where I needed a 3rd party addon though.
[00:03] <iniesta6> no support for locale : HE_IL.utf8
[00:03] <potataoes_never_> coz_: I just don't want Firefox/Epiphany/Chromium right now.
[00:03] <westz> potataoes_never_, you're missing out on adblock
[00:03] <potataoes_never_> westz: Opera has that inbuilt.
[00:03] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  sudo apt-get install aptitude,, then in the terminal try   aptitude --simulate remove ephiphany
[00:03] <iniesta6> i assume its connected somehow to the fact that i see my langauge opposite in terminal ?^_^
[00:03] <potataoes_never_> westz: shift+click on the thing you'd likek to block out
[00:03] <westz> potataoes_never_, tab mix? imtranslator? downloadhelper?
[00:04] <wildbat> westz: that's pointless ~ stop arguing. everyone use whatever he like , !ot too
[00:04] <monitorismessedu> ActionParsnip: ubottu: how do I change the boot options for 11.04 when it's install and I can't see the screen. I am having a problem understanding exactly how to use the options on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Change%20Boot%20Options%20Permanently%20On%20An%20Existing%20Installation
[00:04] <JulienM> Hello
[00:04] <potataoes_never_> westz: I bet it has those options - I don't quite know what those addons do just by the name
[00:04] <potataoes_never_> coz_: sounds good, let me try it out.
[00:04] <westz> potataoes_never_, i dont have to actively block stuff, i have a filter subscription
[00:04] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  when that reports out  pastebin the readout
[00:04] <potataoes_never_> coz_: pastebin?
[00:05] <edbian> paste.ubuntu.com
[00:05] <coz_> ^^^^
[00:05] <westz> potataoes_never_, anyway, i just mean the big browsers are firefox and chrome. opera and safari are practically non-entities, so it's weird
[00:05] <iniesta6> how i available support for he_il utf8?
[00:05] <JulienM> I would like know printing cups files to configure color or greyscale default mode
[00:06] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  on that ubuntu paste link  copy the e ntire content of the readout from the terminal and paste it in the large blank area on paste.ubuntu.com,,, add your name at the top,, click the paste button then  paste the link in the address bar here
[00:06] <potataoes_never_> westz: Opera has a pretty small package compared to FF or Chromium, and honestly, fuck Google.
[00:06] <guitar> edbian...sup?
[00:06] <IdleOne> !language | potataoes_never_
[00:06] <edbian> guitar: hello
[00:06] <potataoes_never_> coz_: yeah. Doing it now.
[00:06] <potataoes_never_> IdleOne: hahaha, sorry!
[00:07] <edbian> potataoes_never_: opera?  Never heard of it.
[00:07] <westz> potataoes_never_, i havent seen google hasn't done anything to warrant a F*ck you yet, so i'm neutral on it, but i dont use chrome
[00:07] <coz_> westz,  use chromium
[00:07] <i2iot> im having trouble with java with firefox and chrome
[00:08] <guitar> edbian: I tried to do an install and it said that I needed "MSXML version 6.10.1129.0"...where would i find that
[00:08] <i2iot> can someone check http://www.nescafeplay.com/main/
[00:08] <monitorismessedu>  ActionParsnip: ubottu: still reading and I am not getting it.
[00:08] <i2iot> and see if it displays for you?
[00:08] <westz> when chromium has something/does something my firefox doesnt, ill switch
[00:08] <edbian> guitar: Is it a package?  What are you installing?  What caused the error?
[00:09]  * edbian loves firefox
[00:09] <guitar> i copied my office 10 to a folder, changed the exe permission, and then tried to run it with WIne
[00:09] <guitar> no dice
[00:09] <edbian> guitar: office 2010 (MS office?)
[00:09] <guitar> yes
[00:09] <westz> did you look at winehq?
[00:09] <guitar> wes...i tried to find it
[00:10] <edbian> guitar: You should look at this: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=22248
[00:10] <coz_> guitar,  I believe you have to actually install ms office via wine
[00:10] <guitar> i am brand new to being on line
[00:10] <potataoes_never_> coz_: silly question, how do I copy from terminal?
[00:10] <edbian> guitar: Welcome to the end of the 20th century
[00:10] <guitar> coz...i am tring
[00:10] <guitar> HA!
[00:10] <westz> potataoes_never_, shift+ctrl+c
[00:10] <edbian> potataoes_never_: ctrl + shift + c
[00:10] <guitar> you have no idea
[00:10] <qin> potataoes_never_: gnome-terminal? shift-ctlr-c
[00:10] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  highlight all that you need to copy,, either right click "copy" or  simply middle click at pastebin
[00:11] <edbian> potataoes_never_: or right click
[00:11] <potataoes_never_> ahh, sweet, thanks guys.
[00:11] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  highlight then middle click or  shift+ctrl+c
[00:11] <guitar> edbian...i'm going to try that link
[00:11] <guitar> brb
[00:11] <westz> guitar, you 32 or 64 bit?
[00:11] <monitorismessedu> ActionParsnip: ubottu: Is the a way the change to nouveau.blacklist=1 for the installed 11.04 while I'm using the 10.04 virtually?
[00:11] <edbian> guitar: It's a good one to try
[00:11] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  the highlight then middle to where you want to paste is systemic on linux
[00:11] <guitar> 32
[00:12] <qin> potataoes_never_: Also: command | pastebinit
[00:12] <potataoes_never_> coz_, westz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/637167/
[00:12] <potataoes_never_> It seems that it simulates it just fine....
[00:12] <guitar> brb
[00:12] <potataoes_never_> I'll show you what I get when I actually run it with apt-get
[00:12] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  wait
[00:12] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  that pastebin was for installin aptitude ...yes?
[00:12] <prower> hello again :> i used to use java-package to create my .deb packages of the sun java jdk, it was the easiest way to keep it up to date...however, it seems java-package hasn't been in ubuntu since hardy :/ has it been superseded by another program? the jdk in the "partners" packages is out of date and has security vulnerabilities
[00:13] <pretender> DeVeDe is converting to divx 4:3 even though 16:9 is used in the source and selected in DeveDe i'm using ubuntu 10.10
[00:13] <wildbat> guitar:  try install with playonlinux see if their script works
[00:13] <potataoes_never_> coz_: no, it was for the simulated removal of epiphany
[00:13] <potataoes_never_> oh
[00:13] <potataoes_never_> wait
[00:13] <potataoes_never_> I made a mistake, just a minute.
[00:13] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  ah I see hold on
[00:13] <monitorismessedu> i wish there was an easy way to fix my computer so I can use my monitor.
[00:14] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  ok if you choose  "n" it should bring up more options
[00:14] <kiichiro> hey was there an xubuntu firewall update?
[00:14] <guitar> wildbat...thanks
[00:14] <qin> monitorismessedu: Do you see grub menu (when hold <Shift> at boot)?
[00:14] <Oer> prower on hardy ?
[00:15] <potataoes_never_> coz_: okay, so here's the simulated run http://paste.ubuntu.com/637169/
[00:15] <kiichiro> guys how do I check the xubuntu pre built in firewall? game server is down due to an update with it
[00:15] <potataoes_never_> coz_: and here's the actual apt-get run http://paste.ubuntu.com/637169/
[00:15] <potataoes_never_> ahh
[00:15] <potataoes_never_> wait
[00:15] <monitorismessedu> qin: haven't done that yet.
[00:15] <iniesta6> anyone can help me with this error: Warning: No support for locale: he_IL.utf8
[00:15] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  right now hit  "n"  and it should bring up more options
[00:15] <potataoes_never_> coz_: here's the actual apt-get run: http://paste.ubuntu.com/637168/
[00:15] <qin> kiichiro: sudo iptables -L
[00:15] <guitar> edbian...i went to the site, and i really don't understand
[00:15] <prower> Oer: Oh no, I'm using 11.04 :> and the sun java packages for that, provided by partners, are vulnerable...so i'd like to install the jdk myself, but i'm having trouble figuring out how to go about it
[00:15] <potataoes_never_> alright
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | monitorismessedu
[00:16] <guitar> i tried finding a manual last night
[00:16] <edbian> guitar: That site details how well word 2010 works on wine.  Did you see the top there?  You can't write anything
[00:16] <potataoes_never_> coz_: hitting "n" just aborts it - am I misunderstanding you?
[00:16] <KM0201> guitar: manual for what?
[00:16] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  on the simulate if you choose  "n" it will bring up more options
[00:16] <guitar> oh
[00:16] <potataoes_never_> coz_: alright, hold up
[00:16] <guitar> KM...an idiots manual for using ubuntu
[00:17] <KM0201> guitar: i told you yesterday
[00:17] <KM0201> !manual | guitar download the .pdf
[00:17] <edbian> guitar: Why do you wanna run word 2010 anyway?
[00:17] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  the options should be numberd,, and using one of the numbered options ,, but this is just a simulation at this point
[00:17] <KM0201> edbian: some folks just can't break the clutches of M$ for some reason
[00:17] <coz_> potataoes_never_, dont choose a numbered option unless you want that to run
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> guitar: check the wine appdb
[00:18] <potataoes_never_> coz_: so this is what happens when I hit n in the simulated run http://paste.ubuntu.com/637171/
[00:18] <edbian> KM0201: :)
[00:18] <potataoes_never_> coz_: So I'm definitely misunderstanding you
[00:18] <kiichiro> qin, I did that now what
[00:18] <guitar> km...i tried to find it, let me try again brb
[00:18] <coz_> potataoes_never_, right,, at that point  you have   [Y/n/?] ..yes?
[00:18] <Oer> prower, this wiki any help ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#SDK (Software Development Kit)
[00:18] <sender1> acicula BluesKaj: I did what you suggested and after rebooting got stuck at the ubuntu screen with the dots underneath... nothing happened for 10 minutes :|
[00:18] <potataoes_never_> coz_: yes
[00:18] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  choose  "n"
[00:19] <qin> kiichiro: Do you see any rules preventing server from communication?
[00:19] <KM0201> guitar: there's a huge "Download Now" button
[00:19] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  then it should read out numbered options for the removal
[00:19] <potataoes_never_> coz_: "Abort."
[00:19] <coz_> ??
[00:19] <sender1> BluesKaj: any ideas?
[00:19] <qin> kiichiro: Is it minecraft or hlds?
[00:19] <kiichiro> all are set to accept, minecraft...
[00:19] <potataoes_never_> coz_: check this pastebin where I hit n http://paste.ubuntu.com/637171/
[00:19] <kiichiro> I had it running last night, updated xubuntu and now it's down
[00:19] <monitorismessedu> ActionParsnip: ubottu: what? I am not figuring out what to do.
[00:19] <qin> kiichiro: Java?
[00:19] <coz_> potataoes_never_, that's not right
[00:20] <guitar> hey km0201...let me try to paste that link in my browser...brb
[00:20] <kiichiro> say everything starts up just fine, but no one can connect
[00:20] <prower> Oer: I've gone over it but I'll take a look again, thanks :> the problem seems to be that the program they reference for creating your own packages, make-jpkg and java-package, no longer exist
[00:20] <potataoes_never_> coz_, hmm, thought so, I know I'm not understanding something here...
[00:20] <KM0201> guitar: ..lol, hang on just a second, i'm renewing my license plates.. then i'll help you if you need it
[00:20] <kiichiro> says connection refused: Connect
[00:20] <sender1> BluesKaj: I've installed NVIDIA latest again and now I can boot. Performance is still bad
[00:20] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  however  in that list from the --simulate i dont see any packages it wants to install
[00:20] <qin> kiichiro: Start server and: sudo netstat -tulp
[00:20] <koppe> Where can I find the 'beagle' package (desktop search-engine / indexer), a fork (what name?) and/or any good alternatives?  (I see the project's site is closed)
[00:20] <monitorismessedu> I will try holding shift at boot to get to grub. if there is an easy way to fix my monitor problem you can let me know when I come back.
[00:21] <qin> kiichiro: Paste lines for minecraft
[00:21] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  so ,, apparetly aptitude is not wanting to install firefox
[00:21] <potataoes_never_> coz_, that is true, but look at this non-simulated run: http://paste.ubuntu.com/637168/
[00:21] <coz_> potataoes_never_, is firefox still installed?
[00:21] <potataoes_never_> coz_: no, Firefox is not installed right now.
[00:21] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  arg
[00:22] <guitar> i'm back....i got it km
[00:22] <kiichiro> found something running on the same port as my server
[00:22] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  ok I am officially puzzled then
[00:22] <potataoes_never_> coz_: darn.
[00:22] <qin> kiichiro: You can kill it by pid, or use telnet or netcat to investigate
[00:23] <potataoes_never_> coz_: can I go back to Windows 7 now?
[00:23] <chrome_> I installed oneiric by mistake. How can I remove it? or reinstall the 11.04?
[00:23] <nessy94> how do i get to asker channel
[00:23] <kiichiro> why kill it if it's not working, like no one can connect, server is up just fine
[00:23] <potataoes_never_> coz_: I can't believe I actually said that hahahaha
[00:23] <potataoes_never_> coz_: but I feel so comfortable in Win7, darnit.
[00:23] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  must be  something like ephiphany  or firefox have virtual packages with dependencies from one browser to the next,, I am only guessing there
[00:23] <KM0201> guitar: ok.. what IRC client are you using?
[00:24] <nessy94> x gnome
[00:24] <potataoes_never_> coz_: isn't that a terrible way to design dependances then?
[00:24] <qin> kiichiro: You just said what something else is running on minecraft port, is it java?
[00:24] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  of you do, windows is what you have been using,, it will take time,, but believe me ,, at some point windows will seem 'nearly"  useless
[00:24] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  considering the kind of control over linux you can eventually acheive
[00:24] <potataoes_never_> coz_: I'm thinking about reinstalling Ubuntu with the minimal cd
[00:24] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  excelent idea
[00:24] <kiichiro> I believe it's just the server, only one thing is running on the server and yes it's java
[00:25] <coz_> excellent
[00:25] <westz> i got a friend at mcdonalds :D gave me a giant ice cream cone
[00:25] <potataoes_never_> coz_: I really don't want any of this other crap that comes along with the standard install
[00:25] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  well the minimal is not what you might be thinking
[00:25] <qin> kiichiro: So it is minecraft, ip section? *:port or what?
[00:25] <KM0201> potataoes_never_: it works pretty well.. as long as you got decent bandwidth... it's also easy to install server edition, then stick a GUI on top of it.
[00:25] <kiichiro> [::]:25565
[00:26] <kiichiro> that is what it says, unaltered
[00:26] <Ether_Man> coz_, the level of control, is quite often counterproductive however. While that may give US an edge, it's also what's keeping it away from the desktop market sadly
[00:26] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  it is a 19 meg iso,, it allows the system to be installed via the net,, at one point,, you will get a list of things to install,, aka   Ubuntu desktop,, Kubuntu desktop,,etc     the arrows scroll and the "Space" bar will tick a box
[00:26] <potataoes_never_> KM0201: that might be a little out of my capabilities.
[00:26] <qin> kiichiro: ip6?
[00:26] <KM0201> potataoes_never_: it's honestly no more difficult than sticking a GUI on top of the mini ISO.
[00:26] <kiichiro> tcp6
[00:26] <potataoes_never_> KM0201: hmm.
[00:26] <potataoes_never_> coz_: Oh?!
[00:26] <potataoes_never_> coz_: well in a way that's good right/
[00:27] <coz_> Ether_Man,  that may be part of the reason,, however , I have installed ubuntu on many many home systems.. not a single person knows anything about computers and still not a single one wants windows back
[00:27] <westz> seriously, it was 3 times the size of a normal cone and she told me not to let the manager see :D
[00:27] <qin> kiichiro: And what ip you using to connect to server 4 or 6 ?
[00:27] <kiichiro> ipv4
[00:27] <qin> kiichiro: It do not listen on tcp4
[00:27] <coz_> potataoes_never_, it is very good,, the system is up to date on the first boot
[00:27] <kiichiro> except using no-ip to use the dns, I have tried connecting directly to the IP
[00:27] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  however,, if you choose Ubuntu Desktop  it will still have the same installed applications
[00:27] <potataoes_never_> sigh
[00:28] <potataoes_never_> coz_: I don't know what to do right now then.
[00:28] <hearnoseeno> anyone familiar with installing vmware on ubuntu
[00:28] <hearnoseeno> *vmware workstation
[00:28] <coz_> potataoes_never_,   ok  ,, take your time,, I think that's enough frustration for one day :)
[00:28] <kiichiro> what do you mean qin
[00:28] <Ether_Man> coz_, I doubt that..  But even if we assume that's true, that's still only empirical and plenty enough anyway, will still go back to windows if they just could..  Some of the ones I've done that for as an example had to first pay me to install it for them, and in the end, paying me to "make their comp usable again"
[00:28] <potataoes_never_> coz_: ahh...I'm not satisfied.
[00:29] <ZykoticK9> potataoes_never_, FYI from mini if you install the gnome-desktop-environment package you'll get Gnome without Ubuntu stuff (also FYI don't try the gnome package, it won't work)
[00:29] <coz_> Ether_Man,  I have not experienced that with anyone :)
[00:29] <chrome_> I installed oneiric by mistake. How can I remove it? or reinstall the 11.04?
[00:29] <coz_> potataoes_never_,  well  neither am I ,, this is a bit puzzling about the removal / install issue
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> chrome_: you will need to reinstall
[00:29] <chrome_> ActionParsnip: how?
[00:29] <qin> kiichiro: What client with ip4 setting will not see server, client with ip6 will connect with no problem, Propably you need to recheck server config, and just disable ip6.
[00:29] <potataoes_never_> Ether_man, ZykotickK9, do you have any ideas for my problem: basically what is happening is that removing firefox forces an epiphany install, and vice versa
[00:30] <Ether_Man> coz_, does everyone you've done it for have a semi personal relationship perhaps?
[00:30] <coz_> Ether_Man,  I have also dual booted for many of these clients,,not one goes back to windows
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> chrome_: download natty, md5 test it, burn it and install
[00:30] <kiichiro> how does one do that?
[00:30] <coz_> Ether_Man,  no these are are paying clients
[00:30] <ZykoticK9> !tab > potataoes_never_
[00:30] <qin> kiichiro: One sec...
[00:30] <ZykoticK9> potataoes_never_, could you pastebin "apt-cache rdepends firefox"
[00:31] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: WOW TAB POWER?!!!
[00:31] <Ether_Man> coz_, right. Because that type is rarely going to be contacting you again if they felt you installed "a bad OS" for them after all :)
[00:31] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: okay, hold on a sec
[00:31] <chrome_> ´/exit
[00:31] <coz_> Ether_Man,   this is offtopic and we can continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like... yes?
[00:31] <qin> kiichiro: Check this: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/server_only_listens_on_ipv6_if_not_given_an_explicit_address
[00:32] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/637179/
[00:32] <Ether_Man> coz_, nah. Gotta get back to trying to get this damn scalix running on 64bit install...   sigh >_<
[00:33] <coz_> Ether_Man,  understood,, anytime you want to discuss it let me know,, however same people call me not to complain but how to do something  generally  simple user mistakes
[00:35] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: any ideas?
[00:35] <ZykoticK9> potataoes_never_, SORRY WAS AFK - empathy is not in that list?  but isn't firefox in ubuntu-desktop metapackage (I wouldn't bother trying to remove anything in that package)?
[00:36] <caffine> i plug in an older USB device (pretty old digicam) and i see this in dmesg: "usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3" but no device shows up. how do i mount this device? i don't see any other information in dmesg that tells me how to mount it.
[00:36] <Leopsx> boa noite.................
[00:36] <ZykoticK9> potataoes_never_, if you don't want something in ubuntu-desktop I'd highly recommend mini - and building from there
[00:36] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: Did I say Empathy? I meant Epiphany...it might be in the metapackage, but what if I just don't want the stuff in the metapackage? I basically want as clean/light an install as possible
[00:36] <lcb> if anyone using xsane, does ver 0.998 have an icon on the left side representing a flatbed scanner (to switch between scanner types)?
[00:36] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: Ahhh...mini....
[00:37] <wildbat> potataoes_never_: ok you have to remove the gecko-mediaplayer to remove the browsers
[00:37] <potataoes_never_> wildbat: oh?
[00:38] <westz> freenode is basically all computer stuff right?
[00:38] <potataoes_never_> wildbat: I just checked with synaptic, I don'thave it installed
[00:38] <ZykoticK9> potataoes_never_, sorry my misreading - ya with ubuntu-desktop you need some sort of web browser - thus the remove one, the other gets installed
[00:38] <lcb> in other words, how to change Scansource on xsane 0.998?
[00:39] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: but I do have one hahaha...Opera :?
[00:39] <ZykoticK9> potataoes_never_, actually it might be a Gnome requirement
[00:39] <ZykoticK9> potataoes_never_, Opera isn't free - that's not a real browser ;)
[00:39] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: hahahaha
[00:39] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: but Opera is free...
[00:39] <wildbat> potataoes_never_: i use dpkg to remove ~ eventually i have to remove that to remove all my broswer ;p
[00:39] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: I've never paid a scent for it.
[00:39] <liny_man> cent lol
[00:39] <ZykoticK9> potataoes_never_, Opera is certainly NOT free (as in freedom)
[00:40] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: cent*
[00:40] <westz> ZykoticK9, winrar
[00:40] <westz> ZykoticK9, *7zip
[00:40] <ZykoticK9> westz, winrar also not FAIF
[00:40] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: So Firefox is really better?
[00:40] <liny_man> yes
[00:40] <qin> no
[00:40] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: Can I get a minimal not bloat install of firefox?
[00:40] <westz> potataoes_never_, YES
[00:40] <yeats> !best
[00:40] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: Can I get a minimal no-bloat* install of firefox?
[00:41] <coz_> caffine,  mm is usb 3  support in the kernel ?? I am not sure
[00:41] <ZykoticK9> potataoes_never_, if freedom is an issue for you - then yes, it's better then opera
[00:41] <liny_man> google chrome / chromium is a small browser
[00:41] <muellisoft> coz_: linux is, again, the first operating system to support the newest USB standards
[00:41] <kiichiro> qin,  link did not help at all
[00:41] <westz> !ping
[00:41] <ZykoticK9> potataoes_never_, "no bloat" firefox?  what do you mean, i believe Ubuntu only adds one plugin don't they?
[00:42] <caffine> coz_: great question, but i don't think any of this hardware supports usb3 anyways. the camera is so old you can hardly even find stuff about it online anymore and i think the computer predates more formal definitions of usb3.
[00:42] <coz_> muellisoft   not surprised   just want sure when it was implimented  apparenltu  2.6.31
[00:42] <yeats> !midori | potataoes_never_
[00:42] <yeats> !info midori | potataoes_never_
[00:42] <coz_> caffine,  ah understood,, I have been there with old cameras
[00:43] <ubun_> can i get help with cheese... I tried #cheese but there is no one in that channel
[00:43] <westz> ubun_, whats the prob?
[00:43] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: Yeah, I suppose...hmm. Maybe I have to rethink this.
[00:43] <Muelli> ubun_: well, irc.gnome.org is probably the better server for that. But what's your problem anyway?
[00:43] <coz_> lcb,  let me check here
[00:43] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: but anyways, Ubuntu mini seems to be what I'd like...
[00:43] <westz> ubun_, if it smells bad, dont eat it
[00:43] <liny_man> lol
[00:43] <caffine> coz_: yeah. i just want to clean it off before i get rid of it. even the front facing camera in my phone is better than this old guy. :)  any ideas how i can get linux to say hello to it?
[00:43] <potataoes_never_> ZykoticK9: I basically want to only install something if I absolutely need it.
[00:44] <coz_> lcb,   sorry cant... I dont have the scanner attached .../sorry
[00:44] <ubun_> westz: i can see the camera and stream take photos but when i try to record i get like 1 frame per minute...
[00:44] <ubun_> lol
[00:44] <yeats> potataoes_never_: (I know this is ot, but) you might consider arch linux ;-)
[00:44] <westz> ubun_, same with me. its slow as flowing dog shit. you need a better graphics card
[00:44] <coz_> caffine,  I have tried with some old cameras and no luck , however,,, if no one here knows at this particular time,, you could chance asking in ##linux,, someone there may have a few ideas
[00:44] <lcb> coz_: tks :) there is no Scansource on mine and is giving me error because i need to change the feeder type
[00:44] <potataoes_never_> yeats: I've heard about it, but I'm not sure if I'm technically capable enough...
[00:45] <yeats> potataoes_never_: good documentation - might be worth trying in a VM first ;-)
[00:45] <westz> potataoes_never_, it's not actually that difficult, it's more time consuming than difficult
[00:45] <liny_man> ubun_, that usually happen with netbooks, it runs SLOW. there may be a lighter app that works better.
[00:45] <qin> kiichiro: Disable ip6 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1136850 and start server with favour ip4
[00:45] <potataoes_never_> yeats: the reason why I'm getting into Ubuntu right now is because I'm finding I have to do a lot of Python work for school/work
[00:45] <caffine> coz_: great suggestion. i'll check that out if nothing pans out here. thanks!
[00:45] <ubun_> westz: liny_man: im on a pc. ididnt seem to do it to record onto facebook? ... hmmm.. i did get a 30foot usb. would that be an issue
[00:45] <chrome_> Anybody who uses the 11.04 can tell me if you have the file "libz.so"?
[00:46] <potataoes_never_> westz: darnit, I don't want it to be time-consuming :/
[00:46] <coz_> lcb,   try the #sane channel also
[00:46] <potataoes_never_> westz: Just want something minimal setup quick, sigh.
[00:46] <yeats> potataoes_never_: the lightest-weight you're going to get in the Ubuntu universe is Lubuntu
[00:46] <liny_man> ubun_, do you use the restricted drivers?
[00:46] <caffine> chrome_:  where should i look?
[00:46] <yeats> !lubuntu
[00:46] <westz> potataoes_never_, arch takes a lot of time, it's just the truth. the fact that it's minimal is because you have to hand configure everything
[00:46] <lcb> coz_: good idea... #xsane doesn't exist (as official chan
[00:46] <kiichiro> can I just get rid of the past update somehow?
[00:46] <chrome_> nevercaffine neverming
[00:47] <coz_> lcb,  no it would be the #sane channel ,, although I dont think there are many people there ;)
[00:47] <coz_> lcb,  so also try ##linux
[00:47] <potataoes_never_> westz, yeats: yeah, I'm not looking for that level of detail either, but maybe Lubuntu will suit me? I sort of need a comfortable middle ground.
[00:47] <ubun_> liny_man: im pretty sure but let me double check. i did try to install EASYCAP and i had to do alot of stuff could that have messed it up. (inever got it working)
[00:47] <noisewaterphd> my 6 year old son just told me that Macs suck, and to give him his monitor back so that his Linux would work again
[00:47] <westz> xubuntu and lubuntu are good, so is crunchbang
[00:47] <ZykoticK9> potataoes_never_, if you ONLY want what YOU want - check out the mini install (careful, it's what made me switch to Debian)  Good luck.
[00:48] <potataoes_never_> westz, yeats: maybe when I'm more adept with linux/programming, I'll try out arch - ZykoticK9 - haha
[00:48] <westz> noisewaterphd, win
[00:48] <Juv1228> hello, i have a question about some networking stuff
[00:48] <qin> noisewaterphd: Your boy sounds like wise man.
[00:48] <Juv1228> i have two computers, one ubuntu desktop, the other ubutu server
[00:48] <noisewaterphd> westz: ya, but now I've only got 2 monitors again :(
[00:48] <westz> potataoes_never_, it's an awesome system, definitely trry it if you have the time
[00:49] <lcb> coz_:  thanks :)
[00:49] <Juv1228> server is holding tons of large media files that i want to stream to desktop, but id rather not clog up the rest of my network with this traffic as my router is only 10/100
[00:49] <coz_> lcb,  no problem
[00:49] <kiichiro> I am not recompiling the kernal, don't even know how and that's the only option I am seeing
[00:49] <Juv1228> and both PC's have two nic's so i figured id just run a cable between them right
[00:50] <westz> it's like the difference between taking a snapshot of a scene with a camera and building an image pixel by pixel
[00:50] <noisewaterphd> Juv1228, just want to point out that a GB router is dirt cheap these days
[00:50] <Juv1228> ok, got that done, static IP's, i can ping the server on both IP's but cant talk to the world
[00:50] <coz_> westz,  lots of work
[00:50] <westz> it takes a long time, but it's only what you want
[00:50] <ubun_> is there a way to check what graphics card i have without opening it up?
[00:50] <Juv1228> noisewaterphd, im sure they are, but even if i did upgrade id keep it this way because im doing alot of streaming
[00:50] <JonasE> Hello, is somebody Online?
[00:50] <potataoes_never_> Well guys, I'll see you later, thanks a lot for all your help. I think I'll start out with Ubuntu Mini for now, and see where that takes me from there. Also, I guess I'll give Firefox a whirl and leave behind Opera for a while :)
[00:50] <westz> ubun_, lspci
[00:51] <noisewaterphd> ubun_, lshw
[00:51] <noisewaterphd> or lspci
[00:51] <yeats> JonasE: there's a whole channel of us ;-)
[00:51] <JonasE> Great :D
[00:51] <Juv1228> if i ifdown the nic on my desktop connected directly to the server i can ping google or whatever. but once its up im not being routed correctly outside the network
[00:51] <westz> i think i'm gonna take off. been sitting in mcdonalds for forever
[00:51] <JonasE> I just would sorry for LarsT's Spam attack.
[00:52] <JonasE> McDonalds Rules :D
[00:52] <Juv1228> i have a feeling its because they are both on the same netmask?
[00:52] <westz> wow, i've been here since like 1400 and it's almost 1800
[00:52] <westz> *1900
[00:52] <coz_> I think this sounds more like  offtopic conversation  ...yes?
[00:52] <JonasE> Who have a feeling about what?
[00:53] <JonasE> Just one more question. Is everybody in the list online? o0
[00:53] <coz_> JonasE,  its likely they are all connected ..yes,, paying attention?  I have no way of knowing
[00:54] <JonasE> Well then. Kick inaktive Channelusers for a better Traffic :D
[00:54] <ubun_> the video car would be listed as the "video controller" ? or the  "display controller"?
[00:55] <coz_> JonasE,  many people "lurk" for many reasons...
[00:55] <coz_> JonasE,  any ubuntu issues concerning you ?
[00:55] <JonasE> That much?
[00:55] <JonasE> But ok
[00:55] <JonasE> BB
[00:55] <JonasE> Sry for interupt your conversion
[00:55] <FloodBot1> JonasE: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:56] <engammalsko> Hi, how do I find my name server?
[00:56] <green91> is usually provided by your ISP
[00:56] <engammalsko> Something like ns1.myip ? and ns2.myip ?
[00:57] <Guest88078> is there an easy way to get my monitor to stop saying "signal is out of range"
[00:57] <green91> engammalsko: are you looking for generic dns?
[00:57] <engammalsko> green91: I don't know it sounds right. What is it?
[00:57] <green91> guest88078: change the resolution or sync rate to one supported
[00:58] <engammalsko> green91: I wanna forward a co.cc domain to my web server.
[00:58] <green91> ahh
[00:58] <green91> engammalsko: you will need to purchase DNS service them more htan likely.
[00:58] <engammalsko> green91: hmm, how does that work? : )
[00:59] <engammalsko> green91: There's alot of free hosts that allows nameservers. So shouldn't it be free to get too?
[01:00] <Guest88078> green91: how do I get to where I can change that when I can't see anything in my monitor lol
[01:01] <green91> guest88078: alt+shift+f2 to go to a text terminal, you need to edit your x config file.
[01:03] <Guest88078> green91: i can edit my x config file right now. what do I put in there.
[01:04] <Guest88078> green91: right now it's blank for my install.
[01:04] <Formes> @Guest88078 are you running multiple monitors or just one on the computer you are having problems with?
[01:04] <ubun_> is there only cheese to record camera footage in ubuntu?
[01:05] <SysSi> Hi
[01:05] <Formes> Hello SysSi
[01:05] <Guest88078> Formes: I have one monitor. the one that isn't working. I'm using a cd to view this chat.
[01:05] <SysSi> I have ubuntun 11.04 Desktop installed, with a broadcam network card >_>
[01:06] <KM0201> SysSi: which broadcom (I assume its not working?)
[01:06] <SysSi> I have the Bmwl-kernel-source driver for it, but it says "Dependency is not satisfiable: dkms" in the Software center
[01:06] <KM0201> SysSi: which broadcom do you have?
[01:06] <SysSi> BCM4306
[01:07] <Guest88078> Formes: I've installed ubuntu 11.04.
[01:07] <kiichiro> hey still having trouble with the game server
[01:07] <Guest88078> Formes has left. any one else wanna help me with my monitor?
[01:08] <KM0201> SysSi: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[01:08] <KM0201> SysSi: that shoul set you up.
[01:09] <green91> guest88078: how did u install x?
[01:09] <Guest88078> just think of me as some one who's got 10% of a normal human brain. be a good guy and help the stupid figure out how to fix a monitor that says "signal out of range"
[01:09] <SysSi> mm unable to lock diretory
[01:09] <KM0201> SysSi: close synaptic
[01:09] <KM0201> or whatever is using root
[01:10] <Guest88078> green91: i installed x with an update to 11.04 from 10.04
[01:10] <KM0201> Guest88078: you didn't read those upgrade instructions very well did you?
[01:10] <ubun_> is there like a system restore... like there is in windowas?
[01:10] <SysSi> Ah yes, not, just unable to loate pakate b43 ect, firmware
[01:10] <Guest88078> green91: it worked until I installed nvidia drivers
[01:10] <KM0201> SysSi: open synaptic again
[01:11] <green91> hrn
[01:11] <SysSi> ok
[01:11] <Guest88078> KMB201: well, I guess so. it was working. damn you nvidia drivers.
[01:11] <KM0201> SysSi: in synaptic, go to the Settings Menu, then "Repositories"
[01:11] <KM0201> and that will open another window
[01:12] <green91> see if you can run xf86config
[01:12] <Guest88078> whoops. KM0201: ya i don't think I did read them very well.
[01:12] <KM0201> Guest88078: yeah, you can't skip distros like that.. 10.04, 10.10, 11.04.. if you skipped 10.10, you could have a mess trying to fix this.
[01:13] <Guest88078> every thing was working well then BOOM nvidia messed it up
[01:13] <SysSi> ok im there
[01:13] <green91> why not?
[01:13] <green91> ive jumped several distros.
[01:13] <KM0201> SysSi: ok, on the first tab, check all those boxes.
[01:13] <KM0201> SysSi: on the other software tab... check all those boxes
[01:14] <SysSi> Yes, but this system has no internet access, im using a seperate laptop for this chat
[01:14] <KM0201> SysSi: oh ok...
[01:14] <Guest88078> KM0201: it was fine without nvidia drivers. it's install now. if I go back I'll have to wait hours for three installs because I have no disks other than 10.04.
[01:15] <KM0201> SysSi: ok...
[01:15] <Guest88078> KM0201: what do i do to keep from waisting a whole day installing stuff?
[01:15] <KM0201> SysSi: PM?
[01:16] <SysSi> Not sure how PM works on this online client :p
[01:16] <KM0201> SysSi: you should see my name popped up somewhere
[01:17] <SysSi> Thanks
[01:17] <venol> Helo, I have create crontab on ubuntu 10.04, and I add "*/1 * * * * /home/venol/random-to-dil.sh" with crontab -e command. But, I'm wait for 2 minutes, my script is not running? but if I test with */1 * * * * echo "hello" the script running on the system. what is problem? what does my script is wrong? I have make sure it correct.
[01:18] <Guest88078> any one want to perform a community service for the stupid?
[01:19] <Guest88078> all I need is some resolutions that will work for x on my monitor
[01:20] <bsmith093> wget suddenly isnt working, says bad port number localhost:4001
[01:20] <jink> venol: */1 is the same as *.  How did you check your script ran?  Does it say your script ran in /var/log/syslog ?
[01:20] <Guest88078> I would love to visit youtube or search on google for stuff I don't need right about now.
[01:20] <jink> bsmith093: Did you prepend a protocol, like http:// ?
[01:20] <Product> Hey all.
[01:21] <Diamondcite> Guest88078: Usually 800x600 will work on just about ANY monitor
[01:21] <bsmith093> jink: yes
[01:21] <Product> I want to ask something about .mdf extention.
[01:21] <bsmith093> http://
[01:21] <Product> What for is the .mdf extention used ?
[01:21] <Guest88078> Diamondcite: I can't view through my  monitor to fix it on my install.
[01:22] <ghostnik11> okay serious and annoying problem of empathy window moving and expanding as i type the window moves to the left
[01:22] <Diamondcite> Guest88078: I assume it still boots and ssh is running?
[01:22] <jink> bsmith093: So, it's just wget http://localhost:4001/ ?
[01:22] <Guest88078> Diamondcite: I can get to the xorg.conf file now, but I don't know what to put in there.
[01:22] <ghostnik11> instead of just forming a second line as i type the window expands whats going on?
[01:22] <bsmith093> no its the error i get with any url after wget
[01:23] <Diamondcite> Guest88078: Does it have any mode lines? How about the driver?
[01:23] <bsmith093> wget www.bkah.com returen error bad port number http://localhost:4001
[01:23] <Oer> product master database file ( sql)
[01:23] <Guest88078> Diamondcite: ya. it boots and runs. monitor just yells at me "signal is out of range"
[01:23] <Product> Oh ok.
[01:23] <Product> Thanks Oer.
[01:23] <Product> I want to ask you also.
[01:23] <gry> Product: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_file_formats MDS – DAEMON tools native disc image file format used for making images from optical CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, HD DVD or Blu-ray Disc. It comes together with MDF file and can be mounted with DAEMON Tools or Alcohol 120% software.
[01:23] <Diamondcite> Guest88078: Idealy I would ask you to paste.ubuntu.com your xorg.conf
[01:23] <ghostnik11> is it unity that is making empathy suddenly act weird and break, as it doesn't form a second line as i type just keeps expanding one line
[01:23] <Product> How can I view what is inside of it ?
[01:23] <osti401> i h
[01:24] <Diamondcite> Guest88078: In that case, maybe your fresh rate got messed up?
[01:24] <Product> Oh ok :)
[01:24] <Product> Thanks.
[01:24] <Guest88078> Diamondcite: can I paste it in a private chat for you?
[01:25] <Product> I found it on a website of my friend, he asked me to review it.
[01:25] <Diamondcite> Guest88078: Pastebin is suggested.. it'll take 10 minutes to send that many lines ^_^
[01:25] <venol> @jink: Yes, I make sure it run. I have test to execute with "bash /home/venol/random-to-dil.sh" command, and it's works!
[01:25] <ghostnik11> is there anyway i can fix this? problem of windows expanding to the right for no reason
[01:25] <Product> If we open it, can we see database of the whole website ?
[01:25] <Product> Like usernames/Passwords ?
[01:25] <venol> jink: Yes, I make sure it run. I have test to execute with "bash /home/venol/random-to-dil.sh" command, and it's works!
[01:25] <jink> venol: Erhm, what?
[01:25] <jink> bsmith093: Oh, some weird proxy configged?
[01:25] <Oer> product, that is no ubuntu support question
[01:26] <venol> jink: My script is run, But can't execute with crontab.. : (
[01:26] <Product> Oer, yeah sorry. But this the only pro people chat I know.
[01:26] <bsmith093> jink: probably but i never did  anything with proxies
[01:26] <Product> :
[01:26] <Product> :)
[01:26] <Guest88078> Diamondcite: well crap. never mind. I ran recovery mode earlier and now I can't get to it.
[01:26] <Guest88078> looks like it's goin to be a long evening
[01:26] <Oer> Product, you should be able to open it in mysql, but if it is protected, i don't know
[01:27] <Diamondcite> Guest88078: What happens if you try to boot at all? in any more.
[01:27] <Product> Oer: Oh ok, thank you.
[01:27] <osti401> i have an ati graphic card and the driver is installed and when i launch a game it says "your video card performance has not been found a quick bench will be performed" and " then it says that could not retrieve your graphics device performance
[01:27] <jink> venol: I'm asking you to check your syslog to verify that cron runs your script.
[01:27] <Product> Oer: I'll try to open it, also one more please.
[01:27] <Guest88078> Diamondcite: it boots like normal. I just don't see anything in my monitor.
[01:27] <Product> Does it contains more then 1 table. ?
[01:27] <Guest88078> Diamondcite: it makes intro sounds.
[01:28] <Product> Like emails, names, usernames
[01:28] <Diamondcite> Guest88078: Try pressing ctrl+alt+F1
[01:28] <Product> Or it is specific in 1 thing ?
[01:28] <Diamondcite> Guest88078: It should drop you into a terminal
[01:28] <Guest88078> Diamondcite: ok
[01:28] <Guest88078> Diamondcite: what do i do in that terminal?
[01:29] <Product> :( Thank you very much guys.
[01:29] <Diamondcite> Guest88078: Least you can see your files now :)... log in first
[01:29] <Diamondcite> then..
[01:29] <venol> jink: ok, I check.
[01:30] <Diamondcite> Guest88078: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:30] <Guest88078> Diamondcite: ok. this is actually hilarious. I feel like a monkey using a calculator.
[01:30] <Diamondcite> Guest88078: Replace "vi" with your favourite editor
[01:31] <ubun> is it just plug and play to change/upgrade a graphics card im on ubuntu 10.04
[01:31] <ghostnik11> okay wanted to know the best way to install windows xp along side of ubuntu 11.04 as ubuntu 11.04 is already on the laptop
[01:31] <Diamondcite> Guest88078: I've seen really amazing words from those calculators, so don't underestimate it ^_^
[01:31] <potatoes> Hello
[01:31] <potatoes> Back again with a few questions!
[01:32] <engammalsko> green91: I found a good one : ) co.cr offered dns hosting and it was free :D
[01:32]  * gry looks at the potatoes's questions.
[01:32] <potatoes> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Mini Remix 11.04, but I can't seem to get it working with on my usb drive using startup disk creator...
[01:32] <green91> engammalsko: congrats!
[01:32] <Guest88078> Diamondcite: i've seen cheating on tests with calculators. I wonder if I should post this as a bug or if my install was just bad.
[01:32] <ghostnik11> can i actually do that, install windows xp along side ubuntu 11.04 laptop without screwing up grub and all those other important stuff for ubuntu
[01:33] <potatoes> Any suggestions or recommendations? Can I set up my usb drive manually through terminal or something?
[01:33] <Senjai> yes
[01:33] <kiichiro> I love xubuntu as it never interferes with my games :) and such amazing community
[01:33] <lapaga>  ghostnik11 am pretty sure that you need to install xp first and then ubuntu
[01:34] <green91> its possible to repair grub after installing windows but its generally easier to have windows installed first.
[01:34] <Guest88078> potatoes: i love potatoes. goodbye all
[01:34] <potatoes> oh
[01:35] <ghostnik11> lapaga, see thats what i was hoping not to do as it is my mom computer and she already has been using ubuntu 11.04 for a while now; green91, is there no other way?
[01:35] <potatoes> anyone have any success setting up ubuntu mini on a usb drive using startup disk creator?
[01:35] <green91> blah who wants windows?? run it in a vm
[01:37] <ghostnik11> green91: will move to slow its a compaq laptop and isn't a high end model, its just that windows suck but a site that she needs to study from only uses windows computer or basically asks for internet explorer
[01:37] <nit-wit> ghostnik11, here is a link, it does not matter the install sequence, it is understanding booting. http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/index.html
[01:38] <green91> ghostnik11: install xp and follow a guide like this one to reinstall grub: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[01:38] <green91> ghostnik11: but you'll have to be careful in the windows install bc ubuntu partitions are likely using the entire drive so one will need to be resized
[01:39] <nit-wit> green91, that link is for grub-legacy
[01:39] <green91> ah rats, my apologies..
[01:40] <edbian> ghostnik11: I suggest you use gparted to resize your ubuntu partition and make room for an xp (or whatever windows) install with a large area of unallocated space
[01:40] <ghostnik11> green91 and nitwit: thanks for help but think i will just do as green91 suggested will install windows then install ubuntu after hearing comments on resizing and finding things, don't want to mess around with resizing
[01:40] <iniesta6> hi
[01:40] <iniesta6> may i get little help about problem :
[01:40] <iniesta6> after i login to my user i cant see anything
[01:41] <iniesta6> just the background and the cursor :S
[01:42] <hanaguma> can someone recommend a room for network issues (NAT)
[01:42] <ghostnik11> edbian: thanks i think i will just go with what green91, and others said its easier to install windows first after a wipe of entire system then install ubuntu 11.04 back again, thanks that way grub will have control instead of me messing around with resizing and other things that i might not be skilled at to fix if broken
[01:42] <nit-wit> iniesta6, have you changed anything IE what is the precursor to this.
[01:42] <edbian> ghostnik11: sure
[01:43] <iniesta6> dont understand
[01:43] <iniesta6> i had this problem and came here and been told to install nvidia drivers
[01:43] <iniesta6> i did that
[01:43] <nit-wit> iniesta6, did you do anything like install something?
[01:43] <iniesta6> but now i got only 2 option to boot ubuntu
[01:43] <iniesta6> yes
[01:43] <iniesta6> ive been told here to install nvidia drivers to y video card
[01:44] <iniesta6> but i had 5 options at booting
[01:44] <iniesta6> after i installed i have 2 options (normal and recovery)
[01:44] <mozybonz> gparted work great,xp simply complains about somthing changing and wants to do a check. Thats about it
[01:44] <dimas_> i do have my sound working but the volume control is gone from my desktop and system...so i use pulseaudio volume control but i believe something wrong as i have a little problem with a particular application who doesnt play sound
[01:44] <iniesta6> i installed it from recovery mode ,option like graphic fail
[01:45] <Teslasense> ok I made a noob mistake I installed gnome3 and forgot to turn auto login off now I can't load a desktop
[01:45] <iniesta6> but i cant access it anymore :S
[01:45] <Teslasense> anyone know how to fix it
[01:45] <nit-wit> iniesta6, there is a safe mode boot from a gui if you choose the recovery boot, that will get you in without grphic drivers.
[01:46] <dimas_> recovery mode? tell me about it
[01:46] <iniesta6> if i choose recovery mode i dont saw safe mod
[01:46] <iniesta6> only resume,2 root options,graphic fail and maybe one more
[01:46] <nit-wit> iniesta6, I forget the name of it 4th or 5th line down in the gui.
[01:47] <iniesta6> then what i need to do there?
[01:47] <nit-wit> iniesta6, it scrolls
[01:47] <nit-wit> iniesta6, if you choose the correct line you will get into the desktop without graphics, beyond that others will have to help tyou.
[01:48] <Teslasense> anyone here know how to fix the issue I have
[01:48] <iniesta6> :S k ty
[01:48] <iniesta6> i acn reinstall ubuntu?
[01:48] <iniesta6> can*
[01:49] <iniesta6> i used  wubi.exe
[01:49] <randomusr_> running 10.04 and getting some errors about updating. One of the repositories complains about being contacted
[01:49] <randomusr_> anyone else having issues?
[01:49] <randomusr_> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'security.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[01:50] <[THC]AcidRain> in perl. what is the regular expression for "first 4 characters of a string" lets say the string was "!hax zomg" how would i see if "!hax" was at the beginning?
[01:50] <[THC]AcidRain> or is there a string function that does that already?
[01:50] <den> i have a question about trying out ububtu
[01:50] <anadon> hey, gmp 5.0.2 build/installation failed on Ubuntu 11.04 x64 and I don't know why.
[01:51] <hanaguma> AcidRain: regex for first 4 characters would be /^..../
[01:51] <nit-wit> den, just one?
[01:51] <yeats> randomusr_: can you paste the output of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' to http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the link?
[01:51] <jink> [THC]AcidRain: #perl
[01:52] <hanaguma> having trouble with NAT for ekiga, can you recommen a channle?
[01:52] <hanaguma> official ekiga channel no one is answering
[01:53] <den> yes, my laptop sees CD and when I tell it I'd like to try, it seems to start doing something but then sits there forever, should this take a long time?
[01:54] <jmadero> anyone here do any database work?
[01:55] <anadon> you might run into charge support for ubuntu...what database?  If you know, go to that one's channel.
[01:55] <jmadero> unfortunately it's MS Access (and I can't find any decent support for it)
[01:55] <jmadero> I use Linux but for work they require Access
[01:55] <jmadero> just looking for someone who might private chat with me for a bit to try to solve this issue I'm having
[01:55] <nit-wit> den, try booting the cd hit the shift key, and hold it down to get the first screen that has more options, try it from there if not try hittting f6 at that first screen abd try nomodeset from the drop down.
[01:55] <nit-wit> *and
[01:56] <Teslasense> ok I forgot to turn off auto login when I installed gnome 3 before rebooting now when I reboot it looks like it's looking for gnome3 but trys to boot into unity causing xwindows to crash, anyone now how to fix this?
[01:56] <randomusr_> yeats - http://paste.ubuntu.com/637218/
[01:56] <jmadero> and go figure a MS product wouldn't have decent group of people to offer live help
[01:56] <Oer> !gnome3
[01:56] <pythonquestion>  i would like to decompress only one of the files included in a huge gzip file , how can i do that?
[01:56] <jmadero> don't install gnome 3 on Natty, it's terrible
[01:56] <jmadero> if you want to try it go try out Fedora 15, I have a virtualbox running for it
[01:56] <anadon> jmadero: MS isn't supported by linux anything as far as I'm aware.  you gotta buy help.  no way around that unless you're great at research/illegal torrenting.
[01:57] <jmadero> lol I'm hoping someone here is like me and is forced to use MS for work or some other purpose ;)
[01:57] <jmadero> and since Linux people are so much nicer, I figured I'd give it a shot
[01:57] <Teslasense> Oer so Im better off just reinstalling?
[01:57] <Guest21926> hey guys. my super button's packed in. super, super + W, super + D... nothing works. using unity, 11.04. the compiz key combinations are all correctly set. where should i start looking to fix this?
[01:57] <den> thanks nit-wit
[01:58] <Teslasense> Fedora is a POS
[01:58] <anadon> jmadero: depends on the channel.  #linux is damn mean!  can you use sql?
[01:58] <nit-wit> den, no problem.
[01:58] <Teslasense> anything based off of rh is a pos
[01:58] <jmadero> I can use sql to some extent, it's really not the most difficult question ;)
[01:58] <anadon> I'd have to say use that if possible...
[01:58] <jmadero> Teslasense: the founder of Linux uses Fedora and always has, so it must not be that bad ;)
[01:59] <szal> jmadero: "always has" can't be true to begin with, since Fedora exists since 2003
[01:59] <KM0201> Teslasense: while i prefer debian distros, RH is good to.
[01:59] <szal> jmadero: and Linux was invented in 1991
[01:59] <yeats> randomusr_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/574886 <-- have you seen this?
[01:59] <Teslasense> so you're telling me Linus Torvalds uses redhat, and how would you know this?
[01:59] <jmadero> okay okay, well in an interview he said "he's so used to Fedora he's seen no reason to change"
[02:00] <Teslasense> KM0201: I don't like how it's structured and the whole rpm packing
[02:00] <jmadero> I can find the article when I have a bit more time
[02:00] <den> nit-wit, when i say it just sits there, it keeps blinking a Ubuntu logo for up to an hour - should the trial of Ubunto take a long time to show a desktop?
[02:00] <KM0201> Teslasense: a lot of RPM guys, say the same thing about debian... it's just preference... neither is really better/worse than the other IMO.
[02:00] <Guest21926> jmadero: without wanting to be too anal, because Teslasense comes across as a bit of a twat, i'm pretty sure linus hasn't been using fedora since the day he founded it :P
[02:00] <jmadero> right now I just need to solve this stupid access problem so I can get off of XP
[02:00] <jmadero> KM0201: :)
[02:00] <szal> jmadero: tried ##windows ?
[02:00] <jmadero> fully agree, it's all preference
[02:01] <jmadero> I started with Fedora 4, now using Ubuntu 11.04, 11.10, Fedora 15 and about to test Gentoo
[02:01] <Teslasense> KM0201: if you look at most of the exploits ever put out a lot of them would run against rh boxes and not other distros
[02:01] <pythonquestion>  i would like to decompress only one of the files included in a huge gzip file , how can i do that?
[02:01] <Teslasense> rh is linux version of windows
[02:01] <anadon> hey, gmp 5.0.2 build/installation failed on Ubuntu 11.04 x64 and I don't know why.
[02:01] <Teslasense> that's my imo though
[02:01] <KM0201> Teslasense: but those exploits could be just as easily be converted to run on a debian box...
[02:01] <Teslasense> my favorite is slackware honestly
[02:01] <hanaguma>  pythonquestion: i believe a gzip holds only one file, do you mean .tar.gz?
[02:01] <szal> Teslasense: stop that nonsense, this is not the place for opinions on non-*buntu OSes
[02:02] <nit-wit> den, generally it is a couple of minutes, you should check the md5sums of the iso and cd, could be a bad burn, or a bad download or a hardware need that we haven't found yet. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[02:02] <update> whats up ubuntu
[02:02] <jmadero> lol szal don't give him fuel to continue ;)
[02:02] <nit-wit> den, what is the computer model
[02:02] <den> toshiba satalite 105
[02:03] <Teslasense> you gotta love it when someone doesn't agree with someone theyt hink they are big internet ppl and can tell them to shut up
[02:03] <Teslasense> szal: you don't like what I have to say use /ignore tough guy
[02:03] <Teslasense> jmadero: mentioned other distros first, so I commented on it
[02:03] <KM0201> geez, mark has fallen all the way back to 34th
[02:03] <szal> Teslasense: just trying to get you to observe channel rules before an op does w/ other means
[02:04] <KM0201> woops, wrong channel
[02:04] <Teslasense> szal: then say it to everyone
[02:04] <Teslasense> im not the one that mentioned other distro's first
[02:04] <Oer> Teslasense, please stop
[02:04] <szal> Teslasense: and honestly, all this OS bashing gets tiresome after hearing it for years
[02:04] <Teslasense> so anyways back to my question
[02:04] <Teslasense> is there anyway to fix it or should I just reinstall?
[02:04] <jmadero> unlikely to get help now ;)
[02:05] <anadon> Ubuntu has become bloated and fragile, so a re-install
[02:05] <Teslasense> szal: i just stated my opinion about how I feel about something when someone said just run this
[02:05] <jmadero> hopefully you have a separate home folder
[02:05] <jmadero> then a reinstall should be really easy
[02:05] <Ray2> den: Have you checked your md5
[02:05] <Teslasense> jmadero: I just booted off the cd and backed up the /home/ folder to my external
[02:05] <Senjai> quick question, how do i disable the automatic screen lock in ubuntu
[02:05] <szal> kuix: don't IRC as root..
[02:06] <jmadero> Teslasense: I highly recommend for next install to have a separate partition
[02:06] <den> Ray2, no, just reading how to
[02:06] <Teslasense> jmadero: yeah not a bad idea
[02:06] <Teslasense> any other partion sugguestions?
[02:06] <jmadero> uh, some people do separate boot partition, I don't
[02:06] <engammalsko> I love fish
[02:06] <engammalsko> !ot
[02:06] <Teslasense> yeah I use to not anymore
[02:06] <jmadero> I have and never really understood why
[02:06] <KM0201> szal: he may well be on the live cd.. "may"
[02:07] <szal> Teslasense: / and /home will do, everything else covers special needs
[02:07] <Teslasense> jamespage: so just a / /home and swap then is all you would recommend?
[02:07] <kuix> ola.... i need of one software for test/bench my hd....tnx :)
[02:07] <szal> Teslasense: yes
[02:07] <Teslasense> szal: awesome
[02:07] <Teslasense> so if you have a seperate /home partition a reinstall won't wipe out /home right unless you tell it to format?
[02:07] <mobodo> is there a way to backup a whole partition in ubuntu but skip the unused blocks? dd seems to copy everything, including the unused blocks (as junk, which doesn't gzip very well)
[02:08] <szal> KM0201: does the live CD start as root?  I don't think so, at least it didn't when I last used one (*buntu, that is)
[02:08] <KM0201> szal: yes, it does
[02:08] <jmadero> yeah and then I'd recommend building a script to auto install everything for reinstalls
[02:08] <Teslasense> szal: the cd I booted off of gave me root
[02:08] <KM0201> always has
[02:08] <Teslasense> and auto mounted my hdd and external
[02:08] <jmadero> I have one, I get everything set up in about 10 minutes using one command
[02:08] <KM0201> szal: the ubuntu live cd has always automatically logged you in as root.
[02:08] <Teslasense> jmadero: yeah I did that part already
[02:09] <Teslasense> szal and jmadero ty for the help and advice
[02:09] <kuix> hd benchmark tool?  :(
[02:09] <jmadero> then you're good to go, make root partition about 5-7 gigs
[02:09] <jmadero> everything else should be in home
[02:09] <szal> jmadero: a bit small imho, should be more like 10+ GB
[02:09] <jmadero> I currently have 6
[02:09] <nit-wit> den, did you try the nomodeset option with a f6 prompt at the first gui?
[02:09] <jmadero> never have issues
[02:09] <Teslasense> I was giong to do around 20gigs for the /
[02:09] <Teslasense> and everything else for /home
[02:10] <szal> just to be sure, I've seen enough cases where ppl ran out of space because their / partition was too small
[02:10] <aaaaaaaa> oi
[02:10] <jmadero> I honestly have never seen 20 gigs taken up for a root partition, that's a lot of extra crap software (IMO)
[02:10]  * szal has 12 or 15 GB for /
[02:10] <jmadero> even huge packages like OOo are only 200 megs or so
[02:10] <Teslasense> I have a 1tb external incase 300gigs for /home isn't enough
[02:10] <jmadero> yeah I just like not wasting space, so I strip my *buntu down
[02:10] <jmadero> keep it around 4 gigs with 2 open just in case
[02:11] <Teslasense> yeah I usually remove stupid shit like all those lame games and all that crap
[02:11] <jmadero> I also remove evolution, extra kernels when I update, etc...
[02:11] <den> nit-wit, not yet, my interface is all test, no gui
[02:11] <jmadero> I do have OOo and Libreoffice installed
[02:11] <jmadero> which is probably redundant
[02:11] <szal> !language | Teslasense
[02:11] <den> text
[02:12] <nit-wit> den, right with your chip set I believe it needs a low graphic boot to get it that is what the nomodset option is.
[02:12] <jmadero> szal: stop picking on him ;)
[02:12] <szal> jmadero: I don't
[02:12] <Guest21926> szal: since when are "lame" and "crap" swear words?
[02:12] <jmadero> he said shit ;)
[02:12] <Guest21926> :P
[02:13] <jmadero> dangit, no database admins in here???
[02:13] <jmadero> think I'll have better luck over at #linux?
[02:13] <Teslasense> szal, 15gigs should be a safe bet for /?
[02:13] <Gryllida> !ask | jmadero
[02:13] <nit-wit> den, thos giuded user intefaces for getting to the desktops are gui's.
[02:13] <Guest21926> what kind of database?
[02:13] <szal> imho, Anglo-Saxons are too sensitiv about such words anyway, but I don't make the channel rules ;)
[02:13] <szal> Teslasense: yes
[02:13] <jmadero> access unforunately
[02:13] <nit-wit> *those
[02:13] <Teslasense> cool ty
[02:14] <Guest21926> i don't have any experience with it, sorry. i don't think they have IRC for people who use access anyway
[02:14] <Guest21926> have you tried your local library or pensioner's club? :P
[02:14] <jmadero> I know, of course a MS product wouldn't have it
[02:14] <Gryllida> jmadero: What's up?
[02:14] <den> nit-wit, I'll try booting the Toshiba and do the no mode set when i get a chance later
[02:14] <szal> jmadero: as I said, tried ##windows already?
[02:14] <jmadero> I don't want to get booted for having the convo here ;) get yelled at for talking about non Ubuntu software
[02:14] <nit-wit> den, cool
[02:15] <jmadero> szal: tried, people are "mean" (nice way to say it)
[02:15] <den> nit-wit, thanks again
[02:15] <nit-wit> den, no problem.
[02:15] <den> quit
[02:15] <Gryllida> jmadero: If it's software question, there is ##windows ; but if it's sql/language question, I'm sure people here would happily try to help you.
[02:16] <jmadero> hm, not sure if it qualifies as a sql question, basically I want to pass on a value from a form to a global variable and then use it in another form
[02:16] <szal> jmadero: in my limited experience w/ it, the best support for Windows 'standard' software is to be found on general or specialized Windows web forums
[02:16] <jmadero> szal: tried that also, for the most part unhelpful
[02:16] <Gryllida> jmadero: What did you already try / do you already have?
[02:16] <szal> jmadero: how about microsoft.* newsgroups?
[02:17]  * Gryllida is still trying to see if it's a program or a language question.
[02:17] <jmadero> szal: basically I'm trying to solve this right now so that I can get on with the project, been stuck for a couple weeks
[02:18] <szal> jmadero: just trying to point you in a direction you might not have thought about yet..  I've been a mostly passive reader of some of the microsoft.* newsgroups for a while, and they're mostly pretty quick to answer
[02:19] <jmadero> szal: any suggestion for a particular one?
[02:19] <szal> so if your problem isn't absolutely obscure, you should've an answer within 2 days at the latest
[02:19] <szal> jmadero: don't have a configured newsagent at hand atm
[02:20] <szal> been a while that I was active in Usenet
[02:20] <jmadero> szal: surprisingly newgroups is something I've never used
[02:20] <szal> jmadero: if you so will, that's the predecessor to the web forums
[02:21] <jmadero> szal: okay going to join one now, we'll see if it leads to something functional, thanks
[02:21] <jmadero> now I got curious to try the Chrome OS so downloading ;) (I know I know not a Ubuntu Os)
[02:23] <szal> jmadero: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?lnk=srgmb&hl=de&q=microsoft.public.access.* <- I suggest you pick one of these
[02:24] <jmadero> szal: already had found those, thanks :) trying to figure out how to subscribe through thunderbird now
[02:24] <jmadero> can't figure out what to put in for "server"
[02:24] <szal> jmadero: oh, that was long ago around Thunderbird 1.0 when I was in Usenet
[02:24] <piero> Is mcrypt a good program to encrypt my personal files? I want not to store a key somewhere, so I'm thinking about to use mcrypt
[02:24] <szal> jmadero: you need a newsfeed
[02:25] <szal> jmadero: probably your ISP offers one
[02:25] <jmadero> piero: I just use terminal based encfs
[02:25] <jmadero> szal: now I'm confused
[02:25] <venol> jink: Thanks, finally my problem was solved.
[02:27] <venol> Hello, How to set cron not send mail to user root if the cron job list success running?
[02:27] <sysdoc> Hi all I need to flash my BIOS does anyone have a howto that works with freedos and a flash drive?
[02:27] <venol> jink: Excusme, But How to set cron not send mail to user root if the cron job list success running?
[02:28] <szal> jmadero: http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers/
[02:28] <szal> jmadero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet <- for some basics
[02:29] <mxiia> anyone have any spare g+ invites?
[02:29] <jmadero> thanks szal
[02:29] <Rickk> hi! How can I check the status of resize2fs?
[02:30] <jmadero> mxiia: good luck with that ;) I got in first day and since then it's been a slow process getting new people in
[02:30] <szal> mxiia: -> #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:30] <mxiia> jmadero, can't you create a circle and add someone to it. they'll get an invite from that
[02:31] <jmadero> nope, it just says "email invite will be enabled soon"
[02:32] <russellsteapot> I'm reading about how to compile source code and it says "and, just to be safe" sudo chmod u+rwx /usr/local/src What does this do? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[02:32] <Gryllida> russellsteapot: Open read, write, execute access for you for that file.
[02:33] <bigjay2> hey guys on my android phone so tough to type i got a long boot time off ubu 11.04 and flashing scroll and caps lock. cant do anything. comes after i press numlck getting wierd lzma errors
[02:33] <russellsteapot> Why does that make it safe?
[02:33] <venol> szal: Excusme, But How to set cron not send mail to user root if the cron job list success running?
[02:34] <hanaguma> please tell me if you can read me
[02:34] <szal> bigjay2: sounds like kernel panic..  smells like corrupt install medium and/or faulty hardware
[02:34] <bigjay2> @ hanaguma yes
[02:34] <szal> venol: how do I know?
[02:34] <hanaguma> bigjay2:thanks
[02:34] <kion> anyone knows how does /etc/hosts.deny works?
[02:35] <bigjay2> ok so suggestions on fix?
[02:35] <venol> szal: oh, I'm sorry.
[02:36] <bigjay2> i cant do anything basically... windoze = bsod on startup ... ubu wont boot
[02:36] <szal> bigjay2: iow, faulty hardware
[02:36] <Nobgul-bnc> bigjay2, try booting ubuntu from a usb drive, or cd. see if you have the same issues
[02:37] <bigjay2> its being booted by usb... win has been 100% solid till i tried to boot on usb a momentj ago
[02:41] <bigjay2> so eliminating hw fail.... no suggestions?
[02:43] <And_O_Gangrel> alguem sabe uma rede de irc brasileira???
[02:43] <And_O_Gangrel> anyone knows a irc brazilian network?/
[02:44] <geirha> !br
[02:45] <NoXzema> Hi, I was wondering why the Boost libraries seems not to be updated for the past year and half?
[02:46] <NoXzema> The latest version is seemingly 1.42 which, if I'm not mistaken, was sometime in the beginning of 2010 or end of 2009
[02:46] <piero> Why truecrypt isn't in Ubuntu repositories?
[02:46] <KM0201> !info truecrypt
[02:46] <KM0201> hmm
[02:49] <Nobgul-bnc> cause they dont use a opensource license
[02:50] <mobodo> clonezilla is pretty neat
[02:50] <mobodo> I just wish it supported software raid off the shelf
[02:50] <KM0201> mobodo: it's a pretty slick tool
[02:51] <bigjay2> ok i got a desktop now i need to get network working ... my net ard didnt come up auto anyone got 5 to help with that now?
[02:52] <engammalsko> Argh, how do I run IE6 on Ubuntu?
[02:52] <Nobgul-bnc> LOL
[02:52] <mobodo> KM0201: did a full backup in 5 minutes over the network, generated a 4GB image.  dd took nearly an hour to generate a 20GB image o_O
[02:52] <Nobgul-bnc> sorry.
[02:52] <KM0201> engammalsko: what the.. why on earth would you want to do that?
[02:52] <szal> !ies4linux
[02:52] <Nobgul-bnc> engammalsko, you can try to install it via wine but i doubt it would work.
[02:52] <engammalsko> I have wine installed, but it keeps telling me that I have a newer version.
[02:52] <KM0201> mobodo: yep, it's a slick tool.
[02:52] <l3d> how would i install the newest version of firefox to 10.10
[02:52] <engammalsko> KM0201: Because it sucks.
[02:52] <engammalsko> KM0201: No but, to test some things on my site etc : )
[02:52] <KM0201> engammalsko: because what sucks?
[02:53] <engammalsko> KM0201: IE6
[02:53] <KM0201> hmm, ok
[02:53] <Cimer_> Hey everyone, I came with a customization question that I have not found he answer on google..How do you change the panel color (I think that;s what it's called).
[02:53] <Nobgul-bnc> there was a browser i used a while ago that allowed you to change to a "compatibilty mode" to test website as other browsers see them
[02:53] <engammalsko> Nobgul-bnc: Do you remember the name of it?
[02:54] <Nobgul-bnc> trying to think.
[02:54] <Cimer_> It's the menu that you get from clicking the sound, power button, your signal strength etc.
[02:54] <piero> How can I split my tar.bz2 files in 4.7GB parts?
[02:54] <KM0201> !ie4linux | engammalsko
[02:54] <KM0201> !ies4linux | engammalsko
[02:55] <engammalsko> KM0201: Isn't that kind of cheating?
[02:55] <KM0201> is what cheating?
[02:55] <engammalsko> KM0201: I was joking haha.
[02:55]  * szal wonders why websites still get optimised for IE6..  IE6 is dead, according to Microsoft
[02:55] <KM0201> szal: i agree... and most sites are going to be made to work w/ Firefox.
[02:55] <engammalsko> szal: Yes I know, I don't really care. I just wanna know what works and what doesn't : )
[02:56] <edbian_> szal: Websites that optimize for ie6 have legacy code that only works in ie6
[02:56] <kion> piero, that is an option with 7zip
[02:56] <bigjay2> ok i got a desktop now i need to get network working ... my net ard didnt come up auto anyone got 5 to help with that now?
[02:56] <kion> try installing 7zip
[02:56] <edbian_> bigjay2: wired or wireless?
[02:56] <bigjay2> wireless linksys e3000 usb nic
[02:57] <Nobgul-bnc> engammalsko, i can't think of it.
[02:57] <edbian_> bigjay2: o gosh.  alright.  does it show up in the output of sudo lsusb ?
[02:57] <bigjay2> my mistake ae1000
[02:57] <wash> Did someone just state that Ubuntu doesn't ship up to date Boost C++ libraries because Boost doesn't have an open source license?
[02:57] <edbian_> bigjay2: whatev,  doe sit show up ?
[02:57] <bigjay2> yes ralink 2870
[02:57] <Nobgul-bnc> wash, no truecrypt
[02:57] <Cimer_> Hey everyone, I came with a customization question that I have not found he answer on google..How do you change the panel color (I think that's what it's called). It's the menu when you click on the power, volume, signal buttons at the top
[02:58] <wash> Ah
[02:58] <engammalsko> Nobgul-bnc: ies4linux had ie6 so nevermind.
[02:58] <Nobgul-bnc> isnt in the repos..
[02:58] <Teslasneeze> I have an asus m4a88t-m/usb3.0 board how do I check to make sure the correct drivers are installed for the soundcard to support the HD Audio because I have it going to my surround sound and it sounds like shit all crackly
[02:58] <engammalsko> Now I'm going to experience the best internet browser ever. Have fun while I'm using ie!
[03:00] <szal> Teslasneeze: sound drivers are in the kernel, so there's hardly anything you can do about it
[03:00] <l3d> Cimer_,  right click the panel
[03:00] <Teslasneeze> szal: grewat
[03:00] <Teslasneeze> great*
[03:01] <szal> Teslasneeze: and, fwiw, the ASUS M4N line (in my case, an M4N68T) work no problem
[03:01] <Teslasneeze> fwiw?
[03:01] <edbian_> for what it's worth
[03:01] <szal> though I can only run the HD audio device in legacy AC97 mode because my case has no proper HD connectors
[03:01] <Kuzad> Is there a way to boot into Ubuntu in a way that the X server doesn't start at all, and I boot into a text only mode?
[03:02] <Teslasneeze> szal: sound sounds fine when I have it set to go through the vc hdmi and comeo ut the tv speakers
[03:02] <engammalsko> ies4linux didn't work.
[03:02] <edbian_> Kuzad: recovery mode, hold shift during boot to get to the grub menu and choose it
[03:02] <Nobgul-bnc> not surprising
[03:02] <Teslasneeze> but if it's on the setting for the sdcard and for sound to come out through the surround sound, it sounds like shit
[03:02] <IdleOne> Teslasneeze: please keep the language clean
[03:02] <Kuzad> Thanks edbian_.
[03:05] <piero> I can't realize how to backup my files in some DVD medias. I want to crypt all my files, one by one, and store in the medias. I don't want to compress all in a big file because a scratch in the dvd can make me loose everything. I don't want to just copy without any cryptography.
[03:06] <engammalsko> piero: Do you want to store the backup on the dvds or make a backup from the dvds?
[03:06] <piero> I want to store my backup on the dvds
[03:06] <szal> Teslasneeze: does sound work ok from live CD?
[03:07] <engammalsko> piero: I can't help you but, why dvds?
[03:07] <piero> engammalsko,  because it's cheap
[03:07] <edbian_> hey
[03:07] <engammalsko> piero: Ok.
[03:08] <piero> I already have a backup on another PC, but the two machines are in my house. I want to send those dvds (among 32GB of data) to somewhere away from here (mom's house!?)
[03:08] <piero> And I will never trust in the clouds ... hehe
[03:08] <codex84> how u convert video to hd quality
[03:08] <codex84> ?
[03:09] <edbian> codex84: You cannot convert video to a better quality.
[03:09] <engammalsko> codex84: Lol, is that possible? :D
[03:09] <engammalsko> : (
[03:09] <codex84> lol
[03:09] <edbian> codex84: zoom in... enhance!
[03:09] <codex84> so how it done?
[03:09] <Teslasneeze> szal: depends on how I play it
[03:10] <codex84> alot of video are xvid hd quality dont u have encode..
[03:10] <Teslasneeze> I have two options in hardware internal audio and juniper hdmi audio
[03:10] <Teslasneeze> juniper hdmi audio plays perfect which comes through the HDTV
[03:10] <kion> for encription gpg works great!
[03:10] <Teslasneeze> Internal Audio is all jacked up
[03:12] <Teslasneeze> szal: the internal audio is plugged into the home theatre systems reciever
[03:12] <szal> Teslasneeze: that shouldn't make a difference, you could also just hook up a pair of headphones
[03:13] <dimas_> i am running ubuntu 10.04 and i already changed on my repositories to receive normal versions update but i dont get any info to upgrade to ubuntu 10.10...any thing else i need to do that i dont know?
[03:14] <szal> !upgrade | dimas_
[03:14] <Teslasneeze> szal: that would defeat the whole purpose of playing music through the surround sound
[03:15] <dimas_> szal i check
[03:15] <dimas_> thank you
[03:15]  * szal tried 4.0 output w/ ALSA a long time ago & was utterly disappointed
[03:16] <szal> anyhoo, time to sleep
[03:19] <Pirsch> Hi all. Something strange has happened. When I reinstalled 11.04 last night my laptop was acting very strangely. Windows would open sporadically and it seemed I had no control over them. Then today I noticed many of my settings are in German. For example, after installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, I tried to open a pdf file. The first adobe window to open (the one with the rules and agrement) was in German. Any ideas?
[03:20] <truepurple> I am trying to follow the instructions in this thread, but it won't let me edit the file that the thread mentions. http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=57775.0
[03:21] <edbian> Pirsch: Very strange.  are the problems constant and random?  Can you re-produce any of them?
[03:21] <edbian> truepurple: are you using sudo ?
[03:21] <truepurple> edbian: No, I just try to open it up, I need to use sudo eh?
[03:22] <edbian> truepurple: you need to use sudo to edit anything outside of your home folder.  This is core to linux security.
[03:22] <truepurple> edbian: Can I edit it by clicking on it with sudo, without needing to use some terminal command?
[03:23] <edbian> truepurple: Short answer, you must use some terminal command.  If you run gksudo nautilus you can click the file in the nautilus window that comes up (which is root and you should use with caution) or you can gksudo gedit /path/to/file/  or sudo nano /path/to/file
[03:23] <edbian> That was short wasn't it?!
[03:24] <Jimmy_> I wanna develop any plugin for Panel of xfce4 but I can't find any documents. does anyone know where they are?
[03:24] <truepurple> I am running under gnome
[03:24] <edbian> truepurple: That does not change anything I said :)
[03:24] <Pirsch> edbian: I gave up last night but today I tried and this is when adobe opened in German. Skype also displayed my credit in euros. Three things I need to point out: first, I bought my laptop in Germany but after having reinstalled various linux distros, this is the first time this happened. Second, I currently live in China. Thirdly, after having spend 2.5 years in Germany, my gmail was 'German' infected. What I mean is that no matter where I go, when I open
[03:24] <Pirsch> gmail, it goes through the google.de server first.
[03:24] <venol> Helo, How to configuration crontab not send notification by email to the owner script, Because I'm monitoring mail server, message from crontab unnecessary for me. help
[03:24] <Gryllida> !gksu | truepurple
[03:24] <kion> Is there any way to control the Alienware Fx led lights under Ubuntu?
[03:25] <edbian> Pirsch: I think google knows where you live because your account says so and it has nothing to do with your OS.  As for the strange languages no clue.  I can't say it's even a bug.
[03:26] <Jon--> How do I set a hotkey to move to Workspace X on Ubuntu 11.04? I used to use Compiz to set this up. (ie <Super> + 4 moves to fourth workspace)
[03:26] <edbian> Pirsch: perhaps Ubuntu heard you talking...
[03:27] <edbian> Pirsch: Or it's that lovely firewall in china?  I have no clue why things are in strange languages.  google 'locale'  that's how the system knows what language you speak.
[03:27] <Pirsch> edbian: I'm not a conspiracy theorist or anything like that, but my impression last night was that I was connected to someone else and they were using remote desktop. I'd done this years ago on Windows and last night the behavior and appearance was the same. I had just installed and was starting the first update.
[03:28] <alapepitua> Hi, i am using a live usb and I want to create the space to save changes, how can I do?
[03:28] <edbian> Pirsch: You think someone logged into your machine using remote desktop?  Look at your process list.  You'd have to have a remote desktop process running for someone to log into it.  If there isn't one now chances are there wasn't ever one.
[03:28] <Pirsch> edbian: I set my system to USA keyboard and my location is Beijing and my timezone is Chongqing.
[03:28] <edbian> Pirsch: None of that would make things go german.  :P
[03:28] <Jon--> How do I set a hotkey to move to Workspace X on Ubuntu 11.04? I used to use Compiz to set this up. (ie <Super> + 4 moves to fourth workspace)
[03:29] <Pirsch> edbian: exactly. That's my point :D
[03:29] <edbian> Pirsch: Unless you think that you downloaded a bad version of Ubuntu (with secret malicious code in it) The remote login software is off by default.  System -> Admin -> Remote Desktop
[03:29] <truepurple> edbian: Ok that worked, the command line it wants me to put in, where in the file should I put it? Or does it matter?
[03:29] <Pirsch> edbian: I never use remote desktop. I just don't like or trust it.
[03:30] <KM0201> Pirsch: then how do you expect people to log in to your desktop?
[03:30] <edbian> truepurple: I don't know what line or what file we're talking about.  If the guide doesn't specify I'd say the bottom is fine.  That is a guess
[03:30] <Pirsch> edbian: No, I downloaded in April and have used it many times. In fact, I am using it now on another laptop.
[03:30] <edbian> Pirsch: I have no idea why things are german.
[03:30] <edbian> :P
[03:30] <truepurple> edbian: Please check out the link I copy/pasted here
[03:30] <Pirsch> KM0201: I don't. I am curious as to whether or not I've been hacked.
[03:31] <truepurple> edbian: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=57775.0
[03:31] <KM0201> Pirsch: ..
[03:31] <edbian> truepurple: where in this thread are you reading...
[03:31] <truepurple> first post
[03:31] <truepurple> can't miss it
[03:31] <edbian> Pirsch: describe what behavior felt like someone else logged in again?
[03:32] <Pirsch> edbian: neither do I, but they weren't before I'd opened my gmail which always opens through the google.de. Something I wish didn't happen. I really know little about hacking and stuff like that.
[03:32] <randomusr_> what's the command to open a text file using gksudo?
[03:32] <edbian> truepurple: the echo line?  just put that at the end
[03:32] <truepurple> or the other one
[03:32] <edbian> truepurple: I think the file is empty anyway?
[03:32] <bazhang> randomusr_, gksudo gedit
[03:32] <edbian> truepurple: the two commands are equivalent
[03:32] <randomusr_> bazhang, thank you
[03:33] <Jon--> How do I set a hotkey to move to Workspace X on Ubuntu 11.04? I used to use Compiz to set this up. (ie <Super> + 4 moves to fourth workspace)
[03:33] <truepurple> randomusr_: gksudo gedit /path/to/file/
[03:33] <edbian> Pirsch: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=69784
[03:33] <Pirsch> edbian: for example, my volume 'slide' window opened and my volume went up and down. A little while later it closed. My browser was switching tabs. It was as if I were looking around but I wasn't and my cursor wasn't moving.
[03:33] <truepurple> edbian: Thankyou
[03:34] <qin> Pirsch: Google have lastlog, same Ubuntu, which also have auth.log
[03:34] <edbian> Pirsch: That sounds exactly like someone logged in.
[03:34] <edbian> Pirsch: System -> Admin -> Remote login     Is that turned on or anything?
[03:34] <edbian> truepurple: sure
[03:34] <Pirsch> edbian: that's what I am saying, but it should be impossible
[03:35] <edbian> Pirsch: System -> Admin -> Remote Login...
[03:35] <Pirsch> edbian: I don't seem to have it on this rig
[03:35] <edbian> Pirsch: Is this 11.04 with unity?
[03:35] <truepurple> edbian: I need to restart before I I can appreciate the change, right?
[03:35] <edbian> truepurple: I have no idea.
[03:35] <Pirsch> edbian: I definitely did not activate it. It's 11.04 classic
[03:36] <edbian> truepurple: I don't know what your problem is or what the fix does.
[03:36] <vader1102> when someone has a moment.need a little help with wine
[03:36] <edbian> Pirsch: System -> Preferences -> Remote login ??  It's there somehwere...
[03:36] <truepurple> You would if you really read even just the first post
[03:36] <anadon> I can do with wine
[03:36] <truepurple> But thats fine
[03:36] <edbian> truepurple: :)
[03:36] <edbian> I'm lazy
[03:37] <vader1102> ok, I got a prog to install on it, just cannot get it to load as I need sudo rights for read write permission
[03:37] <Pirsch> edbian: "Nobody can access your desktop"
[03:37] <edbian> Pirsch: mmm, I would say that's pretty explicit.
[03:38] <edbian> Pirsch: Now, there are a couple ways to log into an Ubuntu computer remotely.  ALL of them require the user set something up on the target machine first.  So if you didn't set anything up. and this weird stuff wasn't a strange fluke I think you have a real problem.
[03:38] <Pirsch> edbia: yep, but I am suspicious of the Chinese. Google has already informed me twice my account had been accessed and then sent me, by phone, a new entry code.
[03:38] <edbian> Pirsch: How many times has this happened?
[03:39] <edbian> Pirsch: The Chinese can't just log into Linux machines whenever they want all willy nilly.  It simply isn't possible.
[03:39] <Pirsch> edbian: I just installed it last night. Actually, that is what I thought, that logging in would be impossible. It could have simply been a bad install.
[03:40] <edbian> Pirsch: If this is a new install I recommend installing again.  Can you get a new copy of Ubuntu from ubuntu.com ?
[03:40] <Pirsch> edbian: I'll just download a fresh iso and start over.
[03:40] <edbian> Pirsch: I think that's best
[03:40] <Pirsch> edbian, yes, it's no problem
[03:41] <mrdeb> doesanyone know how to edit gtk3 settinsg withs gui
[03:41] <bazhang> mrdeb, for gnome3?
[03:41] <Pirsch> edbian: I figured f there'd been something screwwy going on with hacking you guys would know.
[03:41] <randomusr_> is it possible to perform an upgrade at the command line in 10.04? when i run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, nothing happens
[03:42] <bazhang> randomusr_, dist-upgrade does not change version numbers
[03:42] <bazhang> !upgrade | randomusr_ please have a read
[03:42] <edbian> Pirsch: It sounds suspect.  We can investigate further if you'd like.
[03:42] <Pirsch> edbian: can I ask a kubuntu question here?
[03:42] <edbian> Pirsch: yes
[03:42] <Pirsch> edbian: let's try reinstalling and see if it happens again
[03:43] <edbian> Pirsch: sure
[03:43]  * edbian is curious to look at log files now
[03:43] <qin> Pirsch: You really could save logs for reading....
[03:43] <Pirsch> ebian: everytime I install kubuntu on either of my laptops I cannot connect to the net. With ubuntu, it is a breeze. Is there some known issue with the kubuntu net manager?
[03:44] <Pirsch> qin: how is that done?
[03:44] <edbian> Pirsch: I don't know of any.  There very well could be
[03:44] <Pirsch> edbian: ok, no prob
[03:44] <edbian> Pirsch: Just save the files on a USB stick or something.  /var/log/auth   <--- All of those would be interesting
[03:44] <edbian> Pirsch: and ps -e right now would be great
[03:44] <Pirsch> ok
[03:45] <faina> Pirsch a few versions ago, both ubuntu & kubuntu were both using NetworkManager in their guts -- I ended up using the ubuntu network manager client with kubuntu
[03:45] <Pirsch> edbian: ps -e? Is that a shell command?
[03:45] <Nobgul-bnc> yes
[03:45] <edbian> Pirsch: yeah, it lists all current processes
[03:45] <qin> Pirsch: sudo mkdir ~/logbackup && sudo cp -r /var/log/* ~/logbackup
[03:46] <randomusr_> thanks again bazhang. Know if any updates are currently available for 10.04?
[03:46] <Pirsch> edbian: ok, for now I'll call it a fluke, or corrupt install, and just do a reinstall. I'll try kubuntu and see if I can get online
[03:47] <edbian> Pirsch: I wanted to see ps -e!  :)
[03:47] <Pirsch> qin: thanks
[03:47] <edbian> please? :P
[03:47] <edbian> put it here: paste.ubuntu.com
[03:47] <Pirsch> edbian: ok
[03:47] <edbian> Pirsch: BTW, (offtopic I know).  I'm extremely jealous that you speak multiple languages fluently
[03:48] <qin> Pirsch: Also: sudo netstat -a will show quite a lot, as ps -e
[03:48] <Pirsch> edbian: I speak only one fluently. :D
[03:48] <edbian> english?
[03:49] <randomusr_> anyone else run updates for 10.04 recently?  are updates currently available?
[03:49] <edbian> randomusr_: yes they definitley are
[03:49] <edbian> randomusr_: there are updates for all not dead version of ubuntu almost everyday
[03:49] <Pirsch> edbian: silly question, how do I copy from shell?
[03:49] <randomusr_> edbian, then why might my synaptic not be showing then to me?
[03:50] <noisymouse> hi all, how can I make synaptic aware of old versions of packages (for downgrading)?
[03:50] <juancarlospaco> Hi, i need help with Bazaar, it says errors: bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[03:50] <edbian> Pirsch: ctrl + shift + C
[03:50] <Pirsch> edbian: never mind, got it
[03:50] <edbian> randomusr_: sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[03:51] <faina> randomusr_ you might need to do apt-get update
[03:51] <randomusr_> invalid operation - safe-upgrade
[03:51] <randomusr_> faina, did that already
[03:52] <juancarlospaco> does anyone know about bazaar ?
[03:52] <faina> randomusr_ there hasn't been 10.04 updates for a few days, and most of them tend to be from security. is that enabled in your sources.list?
[03:52] <edbian> randomusr_: sudo apt-get upgrade   ?
[03:52] <faina> juancarlospaco I know a little bit about bazaar
[03:53] <faina> whats the url you're using for your pull/update?
[03:53] <juancarlospaco> fai it dont let me upload files
[03:53] <randomusr_> I think i just figured it out and it appears that all packages are in fact current
[03:53] <juancarlospaco> bzr push lp:~juancarlospaco/+junk/test
[03:53] <edbian> randomusr_: yay!  \o/
[03:53] <faina> do you have your ssh key setup on launchpad?
[03:53] <juancarlospaco> yes
[03:53] <juancarlospaco> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[03:54] <juancarlospaco> how can i check ?
[03:54] <faina> can you check something out from launchpad?
[03:54] <bsmith093> how would i go about bulk renaming specified folders in a specific directory, to the album field of the mp3's they contain
[03:54] <juancarlospaco> its empty
[03:54] <faina> yes but you could check out someone elses project... just to check to make sure you have working connectivity
[03:55] <edbian> bsmith093: tagtool  it's in the repos
[03:55] <piero> Can you tell me a way or a program to recursively re-encode my mp3s from 380 to 128kbps? (They will be stored in a SD disk for mobile only use)
[03:55] <juancarlospaco> The authenticity of host 'bazaar.launchpad.net (91.189.90.11)' can't be established.
[03:55] <juancarlospaco> RSA key fingerprint is 9d:38:3a:63:b1:d5:6f:c4:44:67:53:49:2e:ee:fc:89.
[03:55] <qin> bsmith093: find + exec?
[03:55] <juancarlospaco> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
[03:55] <juancarlospaco> Warning: Permanently added 'bazaar.launchpad.net,91.189.90.11' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
[03:55] <juancarlospaco> Permission denied (publickey). bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message.
[03:55] <FloodBot1> juancarlospaco: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:55] <nhr_> Hi facing problems with evolution. When I try to create new task, system greys out and nothing happens
[03:55] <faina> Ooooh! its something with ssh
[03:55] <venol> helo, how to set crontab not send mail notification to the owner script?
[03:55] <Gryllida> nhr_: How do you try to do that?
[03:56] <nhr_> Gryllida: Just went to task menu and click on new
[03:56] <qin> bsmith093: Or: for i in *; do ....
[03:56] <juancarlospaco> what
[03:56] <faina> juan, if your known_hosts has an old entry or wants you to approve connecting, bzr wont show you that ssh is prompting you
[03:57] <nhr_> Gryllida: This is brand new install of 11.04 and only thing that is configured is google email and caelndar
[03:57] <bsmith093> no, bulk rename the **folders** to the album fields of the mp3s in them
[03:57] <juancarlospaco> may i delete know hosts ? faina
[03:57] <Gryllida> venol: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1795575
[03:57] <Knat> I am trying to install ubuntu, i get to the screen where I have the option "Install Ubuntu" but when I select it it just freezes, I've left it alone for about 10 min now but I don't think its doing anything, can someone tell me what i can do to at least get an error message?
[03:57] <wslayer> my vga isn`t working, i did a netboot install
[03:57] <faryshta> Hello. Which software can I use to modify a .pdf file?
[03:57] <faina> juancarlospaco You can delete the known hosts file, though it might be better to just move it out of the way for the moment.
[03:58] <Gryllida> faryshta: Search for "PDF edit" in software center.  It's called "PDFedit" if I recall correctly.
[03:58] <qin> bsmith093: cowbell? easytag?
[03:58] <juancarlospaco> i deleted know_hosts faina
[03:58] <Gryllida> faryshta: "PDF editor".
[03:58] <faryshta> Gryllida, thank you very much.
[03:59] <faina> juancarlospaco did you try bzr launchpad-login?
[03:59] <juancarlospaco> faina:  i try bzr branch lp:exaile/0.3.0 shows the same error
[03:59] <Gryllida> faryshta: Of course.
[03:59] <juancarlospaco> bzr launchpad-login juancarlospaco returns nothing faina
[03:59] <juancarlospaco> no error i guest
[04:00] <juancarlospaco> guess*
[04:00] <faina> Yes. Though now I'm confused, I was able to do a bzr branch without a problem
[04:00] <`greenlight> i have ubuntu 10.10 installed as part of dual boot with win 7, if i reinstall win7, should the ubuntu work fine still, or should i reinstall ubuntu too?
[04:00] <qin> bsmith093: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/bash-script-for-sorting-and-renaming-multiple-mp3-files-by-id3-tags-602105/
[04:00] <randomusr_> is it possible to upgrade to 11.04 from CD if I'm currently on 10.04?
[04:00] <juancarlospaco> faina:  theres no check-keys command or something like that ?
[04:00] <nhr_> Seems like evolution greys out the window even for contact - spends long time like may be minute thinking about something
[04:01] <faina> greenlight, you might need to reconfigure grub / boot loader, but as long as windows doesn't overwrite ubuntu it should be fine
[04:01] <wslayer> i have to use terminal but sometimes the system crashes after grub stage too
[04:01] <Gryllida> randomusr_: You would need to have the system installed for that.  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade
[04:01] <faina> juancarlosacp, not to my knowledge
[04:01] <`greenlight> faina, can you please be specific or at least guide me where would i reconfigure grub, or how?
[04:02] <venol> Gryllida: Thanks for your help. n_n
[04:03] <`greenlight> faina, thanks for the info, highly appreciated
[04:03] <bazhang> !grub2 | `greenlight
[04:03] <faina> Greenlight, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot has some docs on recovering grub
[04:03] <Gryllida> venol: You can mark thread as 'solved' if it works.
[04:03] <`greenlight> thanks bazhang and faina
[04:04] <wslayer> how do i fix the vga problem?
[04:04] <orngjce223> Okay, I just restarted and my touchpad no longer works. I am fairly sure I haven't touched anything. Could someone point me in the right direction?
[04:04] <juancarlospaco> faina:  Permission denied (publickey).
[04:05] <juancarlospaco> why ?
[04:05] <faina> juancarlospaco that seems like its not prompting for unlocking the ssh  key? do you have more than one ssh key?
[04:06] <juancarlospaco> no
[04:07] <Gryllida> juancarlospaco: Try to ssh with the '-vvv' (verbose) option, please.
[04:07] <Knat> I am trying to install ubuntu, i get to the screen where I have the option "Install Ubuntu" but when I select it it just freezes, I've left it alone for about 10 min now but I don't think its doing anything, can someone tell me what i can do to at least get an error message?
[04:07] <faina> can you ssh to launchpad?
[04:08] <bazhang> Knat, md5 the iso, reburn at low speed, do the disk integrity check, be sure to use decent quality media
[04:08] <juancarlospaco> OpenSSH_5.8p1 Debian-1ubuntu3, OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010 that faina ?
[04:08] <bazhang> !md5 | Knat
[04:08] <wslayer> can anyone help me out with my vga?
[04:08] <Gryllida> Knat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall#Troubleshooting
[04:08] <faina> I didn't know you could log into launchpad
[04:08] <Gryllida> Knat: (Or what bazhang said)
[04:08] <bazhang> wslayer, ask a fuller question with details. just repeating that will get zero response
[04:09] <faina> I tried sftp -v <launchpad-id>@ppa.launchpad.net to test my launchpad connection
[04:10] <update> how can i figure out if someone is stealling my wifi
[04:10] <russellsteapot> I am trying to move files and it tells me "permission denied" How do I get permission? Thanks for the help.
[04:10] <bazhang> update, use wpa2
[04:10] <KM0201> russellsteapot: sudo mv /path/to/file/filename /path/to/destination
[04:11] <Knat> update: it depends on your router, some routers have statistics which will show you what IPs have been connecting and how much bandwidth they are using, but best to just secure your network
[04:11] <venol> Gryllida: I'm sorry, but the problem still same. script is running successfull, But mail notification still send from cron
[04:11] <juancarlospaco> faina: http://paste.ubuntu.com/637267/
[04:11] <update> how would i view those statistics
[04:12] <Knat> update: read the manual for your router to see if it supports it
[04:12] <KG> Do any of you know how to manually add /dev/dsp_in to the Sound Preferences ?
[04:12] <faina> juancarlospaco that looks like launchpad isn't recognizing your ssh key
[04:14] <bazhang> update, in your router window. via a browser. not really an ubuntu issue. use wpa2 to secure in future
[04:14] <faina> juancarlospaco I think you need to go to launchpad.net/~<yourid> and verify that the ssh key is registered
[04:14] <faina> There's a ssh keys section on your information page
[04:14] <wslayer> how do I configure my vga through terminal?
[04:15] <russellsteapot> KM0201 it tells me there is no such directory as home/computer/downloads
[04:15] <KM0201> russellsteapot: try /home/username/Downloads  (case sensitive)
[04:15] <bazhang> wslayer, please clarify what you are trying to do, with full details.
[04:15] <i2iot> Is there any professional video editing software for Ubuntu?
[04:16] <bazhang> i2iot, lots
[04:16] <bazhang> i2iot, linear? non-linear? from a vidcam? please be clearer
[04:17] <Nozy> hi all does someone know to the fix the "send to" in 11.04 to show up mail ?
[04:18] <faina> juancarlospaco, i need to go get dinner, good luck with your ssh/launchpad issue
[04:18] <juancarlospaco> SSH public key added. says Launchpad faina
[04:18] <nhr_> Hi, when I click on create new task in evolution nothing happens
[04:18] <venol> Gryllida: Thanks, now it works.. n_n I Will closed case on ubuntuforums.
[04:18] <faina> You should try the bzr push again...
[04:19] <russellsteapot> KM0201 I just tried putting Downloads in caps, it still tells me there is no such file or directory
[04:19] <faina> (and the sftp command, just to make sure that it recognizes your key
[04:19] <juancarlospaco> is working faina
[04:19] <faina> yay!
[04:19] <juancarlospaco> thanks
[04:19] <faina> youre welcome, and have a good day
[04:19] <KM0201> russellsteapot: what are you typing for your downloads directory?   it should be /home/username/downloads
[04:20] <juancarlospaco> i think the problem is a migrated /home
[04:20] <KM0201> russellsteapot: try this... in terminal type cd ~/Downloads  and that should change you to your downloads folder
[04:20] <bazhang> russellsteapot, what does ls show in terminal
[04:20] <KM0201> russellsteapot: make sure there's a space after cd.
[04:20] <nhr_> Is there someplace where evolution keeps the logs - sometimes when I click on create task, it grayout and then nothing happens
[04:20] <KM0201> russellsteapot: then all you have to do is cd mv /path/to/folder
[04:20] <wslayer> bazhang: i`m trying to make my nvidia card work cause it`s crashing X and i don`t want to use console, i want to use desktop graphical interface.
[04:21] <nhr_> Othertimes nothing happens, but system does not grey out
[04:21] <KM0201> woops... sudo mv filename /path/to/folder
[04:21] <Gryllida> venol: Nice.
[04:21] <russellsteapot> KM0201 I was missing the initial / before /home. Thank you for your help
[04:22] <KM0201> russellsteapot: np.. i figured it was something simple.
[04:23] <russellsteapot> KM0201 is there a way to easily copy where a folder is like in Windows when you click on the location and it becomes text you can cut and paste?
[04:23] <KM0201> russellsteapot: drag the folder intoa  terminal.. it'll put the whole path there for you.. highlight, and copy
[04:24] <KM0201> russellsteapot: thats how i always do it for folers w/ long paths
[04:24] <edbian> KM0201: no it doesn't...
[04:24] <KM0201> edbian: sure it does
[04:24] <edbian> that's amazing
[04:24] <KM0201> i do it all the time
[04:24] <KM0201> edbian: you never knew that?
[04:24] <edbian> no!
[04:24] <edbian> thank you!
[04:24] <KM0201> edbian: i tell newbs to do that all the time when i suspect they are in the wrong terminal directory..lol
[04:25] <russellsteapot> thanks
[04:25] <edbian> ha
[04:25] <edbian> well it doesn't switch for them...
[04:25] <edbian> KM0201: It doesn't switch the CWD.  Just dumps that string
[04:25] <KM0201> edbian: no.. but i usually tell them to type "cd" hit the space bar once, then drag the folder to terminal, and hit enter.
[04:25] <edbian> ahhh
[04:25] <KM0201> even total idiots can do that
[04:25] <edbian> KM0201: Thanks for the tip!
[04:25] <KM0201> :)
[04:25] <edbian> KM0201: Are you calling me an idiot?
[04:25] <edbian> :P
[04:26] <KM0201> edbian: no, just saying thats an idiot proof instruction set to get them into the right directory.. :)
[04:27] <wslayer> give me any hint on how to fix my vga -.-
[04:30] <qin> KM0201: So, you saying that to cd into/deep/buried/stuff/ I have to open Nautilus and browse there first?
[04:30] <Omen_20> hi guys. I'm ignorant to technologies about data backup and redundancy. Is there something I can install on Ubuntu that will keep two HDDs identical?
[04:31] <KM0201> qin: yes... the idea is when someone is trying to run a terminal command on a certain directory, and its not working.. usually, its cuz the newb is in the wrong terminal directory... so the idea, is that puts them into the correct directory.
[04:31] <KM0201> qin: most of them, can use the GUI to navigate to a directory... doing it via terminal, is another issue (again, for some, not all)
[04:31] <paissad> guys, when i plug my usb key .. i cannot see it, and here is the result of "dmesg | tail"
[04:31] <paissad> http://dpaste.com/562359/
[04:32] <edbian> paissad: does it show up in 'computer' ?
[04:32] <paissad> i tried "mount /dev/sdi /mnt/usb" but i have mount: no medium found on /dev/sdi
[04:32] <paissad> edbian, no
[04:32] <qin> KM0201: paissad /dev/sdb1 number is important
[04:33] <qin> paissad: ^^^
[04:33] <ubuntunewbie> hello everyone, can anyone help me with my networking problem? I put in a new router and my ubuntu laptop shows my wired network as disconnected. I know there's a new gateway address to change on my laptop but i don't know where it should be changed. I made a few changes to interfaces and i am still unable to ping my router address
[04:33] <edbian> paissad: did you guess at the /dev/sdi  name?  Where did you get i from?
[04:33] <qin> KM0201: Ok, it happened to me be shocked by pwd output few times ;)
[04:34] <paissad> qin, why dev/sdb1 ? ... sdb is absolutely not my usb key :)
[04:34] <edbian> paissad: You can figure the correct /dev/sdXY letter and number by looking at sudo fdisk -l
[04:34] <wslayer> dmesg produced this message about my vga "no driver support for vblank timestamp memory"
[04:34] <qin> paissad: sdi1 then
[04:34] <edbian> paissad: You definitely need a number
[04:34] <edbian> paissad: why i?
[04:34] <paissad> edbian, i get it from the dmesg output i pasted above ;)
[04:34] <KM0201> qin: :)   it actually works well.. like i said.. since usually folsk aren't putting in the proper path to run a command, or something simple, thats an easy way to get them into the path
[04:34] <paissad> http://dpaste.com/562359/
[04:34] <ubuntunewbie> my router address is at 192.168.1.1 but when i ping it, it replies from 192.168.1.99 saying destination host unreachable
[04:34]  * edbian reads closer
[04:35] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: Can you log into 192.168.1.1 on your web browser?
[04:35] <paissad> ls -l /dev/sd* => http://dpaste.com/562360/
[04:35] <paissad> edbian, qin
[04:36] <ubuntunewbie> edbian: no it can't get to it.
[04:36] <edbian> paissad: whatever.  sudo mount /dev/sdi1 /mnt/
[04:36] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: Than that is not the ip address of the router.  Why did you think it was?
[04:36] <paissad> edbian, i tried that already .. and does not work (normal)
[04:36] <paissad> mount /dev/sdi1 /mnt/usb/
[04:36] <paissad> mount: special device /dev/sdi1 does not exist
[04:37] <ubuntunewbie> edbian: the router is a timecapsule that i've configured to be on that address. I can connect to it via my windows7 pc and my macbook pro
[04:37] <edbian> paissad: The drive shows up in gparted ?
[04:37] <paissad> maybe the usb key is dead
[04:37] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: ... are you from the future?
[04:37] <MaRk-I> paissad: sdi or sd1?
[04:37] <Tweaky> hey everyone. got a bit of a problem :D no idea how i did this or how it happened but on my unity top bar i no longer have the volume control speaker icon any more, anyone no how i can get it back?
[04:37] <paissad> MaRk-I, i not 1 and not l
[04:37] <ubuntunewbie> edbian: no its just a apple time capsule (all in one wlan router + network drive)
[04:38] <MaRk-I> paissad:  check again you typed /dev/sdi1  <<<
[04:38] <paissad> MaRk-I, just take a look a the paste http://dpaste.com/562359/
[04:38] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: oh, neato!  How do you usually configure this router?
[04:39] <paissad> MaRk-I, yes i typed /dev/sdi1 and before that i typed /dev/sdi
[04:39] <qin> paissad: sudo fdisk -l ?
[04:39] <paissad> MaRk-I, none of them does work
[04:39] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: oh heck.  Do this: nmap 192.168.1.0/24   that will scan 192.168.1.0 - 192.168.1.255 and tell you everything that responds
[04:39] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: You can probably figure it out from there.
[04:39] <ubuntunewbie> edbian: i can configure it via the airport utility on my macbook pro. the ubuntu laptop was previously connected via my modem router and had a static ip. i just need to reconfigure it to connect to the new router. Ok thanks i'll try that
[04:40] <ChogyDan> question: how exactly do I start reporting a bug on a project?
[04:40] <paissad> qin, the disk does not show with "fdisk -l"
[04:41] <Tweaky> does anyone know who i could ask for help with unity? (is there a unity channel)
[04:41] <ZykoticK9> ChogyDan, get a Launchpad account then run  "ubuntu-bug <package>"
[04:41] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: that command won't work if the ubuntu laptop is not on the network (with a valid IP)
[04:41] <paissad> qin, "fdisk -l"  http://dpaste.com/562361/
[04:41] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: Is the laptop online?
[04:41] <edbian> Tweaky: just ask in here
[04:42] <ChogyDan> ZykoticK9: I
[04:42] <ubuntunewbie> edbian: no unfortunately not, and nmap isn't installed so i can't grab it from apt-get
[04:42] <edbian> qin: There is no USB stick there (which is like.. bad)
[04:42] <qin> paissad: scsi drive, hm, no clue... How old is it?
[04:42] <Tweaky> edbian: alright ty. my problem is the volume meter on the unity top bar is gone. is there a way to fix this?
[04:42] <ChogyDan> ZykoticK9: Im trying to report against a specific team on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~ck-patchset   So Im not sure if that would work
[04:42] <paissad> qin, almost 2 years
[04:42] <ubuntunewbie> edbian: is there a way i can check the ethernet connection? my gui sys wired network disconnected
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> ChogyDan, ya, i'm affraid PPAs are handled differently!  sorry don't know then.  good luck.
[04:43] <MaRk-I> paissad: I don't see any /sdi there
[04:44] <paissad> MaRk-I, indeed ^^ ... i only see /dev/sdi when i plug the usb key, .. and normally, i should have /dev/sdi[0-9] after the plug
[04:44] <qin> paissad: Either is raid setup preventing device or device is dead, you need one more machine to test drive and one more drive to...
[04:45] <paissad> qin, actually when i plug the usb key on my macbook, i don't see it (that's why i supposed that the drive is dead)
[04:45] <paissad> but i why do i see the message in "dmseg" ?
[04:47] <zelozelos> wuts up with the 64bit version and flash whys it still so buggy or is there something i need to do to make it work better?
[04:47] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: plug the wire into it?
[04:47] <qin> paissad: Do you have any scsi devices?
[04:47] <ubuntunewbie> edbian: yes it is connected via wire
[04:48] <paissad> qin, yes i do
[04:49] <qin> paissad: And access time is?
[04:49] <paissad> Jul  3 05:47 /dev/sdi (2 min ago)
[04:50] <paissad> qin,
[04:50] <Alexander> hey guys
[04:50] <Alexander> are there any video converters for ubuntu?
[04:50] <bazhang> Alexander, handbrake
[04:50] <Alexander> i want to turn my .avi file into a .mp4 file for my ipod
[04:51] <Alexander> bazhang, where can i get handbrake?
[04:51] <bazhang> Alexander, handbrake default settings do exactly that
[04:51] <qin> paissad: So you would want to search there for your drive /dev/scsi
[04:51] <bazhang> Alexander, their homepage or PPA
[04:51] <Alexander> PPA?
[04:51] <bazhang> !handbrake | Alexander
[04:51] <Alexander> thank you!
[04:52] <bazhang> Alexander, ubuntu personal package archice, like a normal repo, but maintained by 3rd parties, and at your own risk
[04:52] <bazhang> err archive
[04:52] <juancarlospaco> i ask a Question, does paste.ubuntu.com got a Public API ???  (like pastebin)
[04:52] <Alexander> wait its dangerous?
[04:53] <bazhang> Alexander, just be aware of who the maintainers are
[04:53] <bazhang> juancarlospaco, like from the terminal? pastebinit you mean?
[04:53] <Alexander> hey whats the name of 10.10?
[04:53] <juancarlospaco> bazhang: works with paste.ubuntu.com ???
[04:53] <eliotn> hi guys
[04:54] <bazhang> !10.10 | Alexander
[04:54] <Alexander> Thank you, again.
[04:54] <timClicks> is there a documented way of installing ubuntu as a dual boot while preserving a windows recovery partition?
[04:54] <Alexander> So, I just add ppa:stebbins/handbrake-releases to my sources?
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> Alexander, if you want MP4 output use handbrake, pretty sure the ffmpeg built into ubuntu still can's output the required AAC codec (bug may not still apply?)
[04:55] <bazhang> Alexander, theres a command to do that: sudo add-apt-repository , its on the ppa page on the exact syntax
[04:55] <bazhang> juancarlospaco, not to my knowledge, its a pastebin service though
[04:55] <Tweaky> hey everyone. got a bit of a problem :D no idea how i did this or how it happened but on my unity top bar i no longer have the volume control speaker icon any more, anyone no how i can get it back? if i run gnome-panel the icon is missing but when i click the empty space where it shuold be it opens up, but says "label empty" and the volume adjust is greyed out.
[04:56] <juancarlospaco> yeah but i dont like it, it uses flash parts and i dont have flash, and letter s too small
[04:56] <corrytonapple> Does anyone know how to apply a theme to the login screen?  Not the main one, but the one you get after you put your computer to sleep and then wake it.
[04:56] <juancarlospaco> thats why i ask if theres an api, thanks anyways
[04:56] <Alexander> bazhang, after i add the repo, what do i do?
[04:57] <Elssha> hi all; Is there any way to activate the higher desktop effects (compiz) if the appearance manager won't let you activate them?
[04:57] <bazhang> Alexander, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install handbrake-gtk
[04:57] <ZykoticK9> corrytonapple, that's still controlled by gdm - which doesn't allow much customization these days
[04:58] <corrytonapple> ZykoticK9:  I tried the whole GTK file thing, and it did not apply.  I logged out and then back in, still to no use.
[04:58] <ZykoticK9> corrytonapple, best of luck man - i have 0 idea.  never messed with it.  good luck.
[04:58] <corrytonapple> ZykoticK9:  Thanks!
[04:58] <Alexander> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. <----what does this mean?
[04:58] <Alexander> should i do it?
[04:59] <bazhang> Alexander, removes unneeded packages
[04:59] <Alexander> alright thanks
[04:59] <Elssha> I'm running ubuntu 10.04 if that makes any difference...
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> Alexander, if you get a message about "no longer required" then /probably/
[05:00] <Alexander> alex@alex-desktop:~$ apt-get autoremove
[05:00] <Alexander> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[05:00] <Alexander> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[05:00] <ZykoticK9> Alexander, sudo
[05:00] <Alexander> what does that mean? sorry for the flood. :/
[05:00] <bazhang> Alexander, you have another instance of apt running. let it finish
[05:00]  * Elssha wants desktop cube and emerald window manager
[05:00] <Elssha> anyone?
[05:00] <Alexander> alright thanks
[05:01] <bazhang> Elssha, emerald is no longer supported nor maintained
[05:01] <ajeffri> Alexander, that also happens if you are not running apt-get as root
[05:01] <bazhang> !ccsm | Elssha for the cube
[05:01] <corrytonapple> Elssha your hardware may not be good enough to activate them.  Try posting in the UF for help.  That is where I have to stop.  I do not know much about that stuff
[05:01] <juancarlospaco> bazhang: i Confirm that tool works with paste.ubuntu.com !
[05:01] <ajeffri> you would do sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:01] <ZykoticK9> bazhang, ajeffri "alex@alex-desktop:~$ apt-get ..."
[05:01] <Elssha> i figure the hardware isn't up to par, but was hoping there might be a workaround
[05:02] <Elssha> it's a netbook >_<
[05:02] <qin> paissad: What filesystem supposed to be on the drive?
[05:02] <bazhang> Elssha, also ask in #compiz with the details of your card
[05:02] <paissad> qin, FAT i think
[05:02] <paissad> usually that's what i used for usb drives qin
[05:02] <Elssha> in that case, anyone know how i can make the desktops cycle?
[05:02] <bazhang> Elssha, with ccsm, I just linked you
[05:03] <Elssha> aka, if i keep going right i'll end up back at 1
[05:03] <tutysra> nMod
[05:03] <Elssha> ah okay, will look into it ^_^
[05:03] <Elssha> thanks ^_^
[05:03] <qin> paissad: Thats one nice thread: http://goo.gl/n3kPi
[05:04] <qin> paissad: They coming with module theory.
[05:04] <Alexander> is m4v the same as mp4?
[05:04] <Alexander> because handbrake wants to make my video m4v
[05:04] <bazhang> Alexander, choose the setting for ipods
[05:05] <Alexander> but i have an ipod touch
[05:05] <Alexander> not an ipod 5g
[05:06] <corrytonapple> There is no iPod 5G.  :)
[05:06] <Elssha> there is a classic 5g >_>
[05:07] <Elssha> i installed the simple ccsm
[05:08] <Elssha> it will let me change stuff but none of what i pick actually shows up
[05:08] <corrytonapple> Well yeah, but not on the Touch like he was refering to.
[05:09] <Elssha> it still won't let me enable the effects
[05:09] <Elssha> >_<
[05:10] <Elssha> is there any way to tell the built-in 'vanilla' desktop switcher that pressing right on the rightmost desktop = go to desktop 1?
[05:11] <Elssha> is there any way to tell the built-in 'vanilla' desktop switcher that pressing right on the rightmost desktop = go to desktop 1?
[05:11] <paissad> qin, i just think the drive is dead :/ .. i even have not number /dev/sdi[0-9] .. when i plug another drive, i have sdj1
[05:12] <paissad> no* number
[05:12] <qin> paissad: Well, you have usd vendor id, maybe bug?
[05:13] <qin> usb*
[05:13] <paissad> qin, i used to see the drive without any kind of problems , i used it in the same machine i plugged it, i used it in my mac too .. and now i just get problems, no machine can see it (do you trust coincidences ?)
[05:14] <qin> paissad: No.
[05:14] <truepurple> How do I uninstall something?
[05:14] <paissad> there were a few datas i did not backup yet :/ unfortunately ^^
[05:15] <update> how can i view my wifi from my terminal
[05:15] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, "sudo apt-get remove foo" from a terminal, where foo is your package name
[05:15] <nit-wit> truepurple, you have apt-get the software center or synaptic
[05:15] <paissad> i never had a usb storage device that even lived up to 2 years ^^
[05:15] <KM0201> update: what do you mean "view your wifi".. view networks? view your device?
[05:15] <qin> update: iwconfig ?
[05:15] <update> networks
[05:16] <truepurple> nit-wit: Software center doesn't see it
[05:16] <nit-wit> truepurple, what is it?
[05:16] <truepurple> ZykoticK9:  HOw do I determine the package name?
[05:16] <qin> update: sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning
[05:16] <truepurple> avast!
[05:16] <paissad> do usb storage devices live (usually) less that 2 years ? or am i just "unlucky"
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, "apt-cache search foo" where foo is the package name
[05:16] <paissad> less than*
[05:16] <KM0201> update: .. well i see qin beat me to it.. but.. yeah, what he said.. :)
[05:16] <nit-wit> truepurple, are you having a problem with it opening up
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, doubt you'll find avast! - unless you added a ppa or repo
[05:17] <truepurple> ZykoticK9:  HOw do I determine the package name?
[05:17] <truepurple> nit-wit: Yes I am, that is why I wish to uninstall and and reinstall it
[05:17] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, "apt-cache search foo" where foo is the package name/partical name - from a terminal
[05:17] <nit-wit> truepurple, I can fix it or you can remove it it shows in synaptic.
[05:18] <truepurple> ZykoticK9: What does "where foo is the package name/partical name" mean?
[05:18] <nit-wit> truepurple, I have avast and saw your earlier posts
[05:18] <TSG> update,  type sudo iwconfig
[05:18] <TSG> in terminal
[05:19] <qin> TSG: Not here anymore?
[05:19] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, example "apt-cache search firefo" will probably find firefox - you might want to try "apt-cache search avast" and see if it turns up (which unless you've added a ppa or repo - it won't)
[05:19] <truepurple> nit-wit: I looked in synamptic, I found something under the name avast, but the descriptions and file names within didn't fit, plus none of it was installed according to synaptic
[05:19] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, if you did add a repo/ppa - be sure to run "sudo apt-get update" to update your database
[05:20] <truepurple> ZykoticK9: What is "repo/ppa"?
[05:20] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, how did you install  avaste?
[05:20] <nit-wit> truepurple, you installed the deb, it is a easy fix, or try the method ZykoticK9 suggests.
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> !repository | truepurple
[05:22] <magn3ts> How do I rid myself of the buggy, annoying messaging menu?
[05:22] <magn3ts> evolution, empathy and gwibber, I couldn't name three tools I'd more prefer were as far away from my compuetr as possible
[05:22] <truepurple> ZykoticK9: I downloaded it and typed "sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture avast4workstation_1.3.0-2_i386.deb"
[05:23] <ejo> magn3ts: just uninstall empathy?
[05:23] <ZykoticK9> magn3ts, search for indicator-messanger or something similar
[05:23] <Phase> Does anyone know of an application that will let me emulate the chrous effect with my headset? It would echo what you're saying into the mic into the headphones on the headset, preffrably with adjustable delay and pitch?
[05:23] <magn3ts> already removed all the apps that use that menu except ubuntu one.
[05:23] <ejo> ah.
[05:23] <magn3ts> Gwibber's broadcast entry funnily enough remains
[05:23] <truepurple> ZykoticK9: What is "repo/ppa"?
[05:24] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, that won't show up in apt-cache apt-get exactly.  "dpkg -l | grep avaste" might show it with ii meaning installed
[05:24] <magn3ts> ZykoticK9, thank you, I assumed it was part of the complete indicators package but that's not the case.
[05:24] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, i doubt that program has an ubuntu repo (it might) - but i personally think AV on linux is mainly non-required
[05:25] <magn3ts> I would actually recommend against AV.
[05:25] <ZykoticK9> magn3ts, glad to help.  when i used empathy/gwibber i found that that indicator kinda handy - personally
[05:25] <magn3ts> You're better off configuring iptables and locking down SSH than you are installing avast.
[05:25] <magn3ts> ZykoticK9, I tried for nearly two full months to use Unity, Empathy and Gwibber.
[05:26] <truepurple> ZykoticK9:  That showed it, but how does that get me to the point of uninstalling it?
[05:26] <nit-wit> truepurple, the "avast4workstation " in synaptic is all you have to remove.
[05:26] <magn3ts> And I really did immerse myself in them. Gwibber was okay, Empathy is just crazy buggy and lacks basic features that Pidgin had Day One, Unity is still a mixed bag for me.
[05:26] <faina> Empathy's video conferencing works, unlike pidgin
[05:27] <faina> OTOH, ubuntu's version empathy can't block contacts
[05:27] <nit-wit> truepurple, here is an older link but the commands are correct. http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=39069.0
[05:27] <truepurple> nit-wit: Synaptic knows of no such program
[05:27] <truepurple> nit-wit: As I mentioned before
[05:27] <magn3ts> can't block contacts, can't remember new passwords on accounts, can't pop open new windows, can't play an alert sound on new IM...
[05:27] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, you might be able to use "sudo dpkg -r PACKAGENAME"
[05:27] <magn3ts> `sudo apt-get -f install` usually works if the pkg is in a bad state.
[05:28] <juancarlospaco> :D
[05:29] <truepurple> magn3ts: It said "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:29] <truepurple> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[05:29] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, close any other synaptic, USC, update windows first
[05:30] <magn3ts> trucMuche, close synaptic then try again.
[05:30] <truepurple> Reading package lists... Done
[05:30] <truepurple> Building dependency tree
[05:30] <truepurple> Reading state information... Done
[05:30] <truepurple> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 58 not upgraded.
[05:30] <FloodBot1> truepurple: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:30] <truepurple> magn3ts: What does that mean?
[05:30] <magn3ts> truepurple, what's the problem?
[05:30] <magn3ts> truepurple, it means everything looks okay to dpkg/apt.
[05:30] <truepurple> Trying to uninstall a corrupted program
[05:30] <magn3ts> are you sure it's installed?
[05:31] <magn3ts> `sudo apt-get remove <name-of-package>`
[05:31] <truepurple> I am sure it's not
[05:31] <magn3ts> ?
[05:31] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, can you run "sudo apt-get -f install" succesfully?
[05:31] <magn3ts> If it's not installed... don't worry about it.
[05:31] <truepurple> It is installed
[05:31] <magn3ts> <magn3ts> are you sure it's installed?
 I am sure it's not
[05:32] <magn3ts> anyway, that command will remove it, if it is installed.
[05:32] <magn3ts> `dpkg -l | grep <packagename>` will tell you if it's installed and what version, etc.
[05:32] <truepurple> oops, misunderstood you, I thought you said uninstalled
[05:32] <magn3ts> its okay
[05:33] <truepurple> magn3ts: Yes, using that command, it sees it
[05:33] <magn3ts> sudo apt-get remove <pkgname> then
[05:33] <Xunie> I was trying to update and it stuck at running update-initramfs.
[05:33] <Xunie> For 2.6.35-30-generic to be precise.
[05:33] <truepurple> magn3ts: Package name being the name of the file I downloaded?
[05:33] <magn3ts> Xunie, what do you mean update? upgrade packages or upgrade to a new version of ubuntu?
[05:34] <Xunie> Packages
[05:34] <Xunie> After that I was gonna upgrade my whole distro.
[05:34] <magn3ts> truepurple, uh, it's the name of the package. so whatever you used with the `dpkg -l` command.
[05:34] <rcmaehl> Is there a package that I can use to check for errors within ubuntu
[05:34] <rcmaehl> b/c I have many
[05:34] <magn3ts> Xunie, you didn't do any of the steps for the full upgrade did you?
[05:34] <rcmaehl> errors
[05:34] <magn3ts> Like change things in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:34] <Xunie> magn3ts, no, not at all.
[05:34] <magn3ts> rchavik, what errors?
[05:34] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, could you paste the one line with the dpkg output?
[05:34] <magn3ts> Xunie, I'm not sure then :/
[05:35] <magn3ts> ZykoticK9, do you know why truepurple is calling it "a corrupt installation" ?
[05:35] <Xunie> magn3ts, actually, running dpkg --configure -a doesn't do anything!
[05:35] <magn3ts> ZykoticK9, if dpkg installed it and apt-get isn't errored out, idk what the problem is.
[05:35] <ZykoticK9> magn3ts, not really
[05:35] <Xunie> Well, it does, but it still hats at update-initramfs. :(
[05:35] <truepurple> magn3ts: What do you mean dpkg output?
[05:35] <magn3ts> Xunie, :s yeah not sure :s
[05:35] <ZykoticK9> magn3ts, mystery here too
[05:35] <magn3ts> truepurple, we need to start over.
[05:35] <magn3ts> truepurple, neither ZykoticK9 or I understand what's going on.
[05:35] <magn3ts> truepurple, why do you think the package did not install properly?
[05:36] <truepurple> I call it corrupt because when i try to run it, it says "An error occured in avast! engine: Invalid argument"
[05:36] <magn3ts> truepurple, yeah, that means you didn't configure it... not that it's corrupt.
[05:36] <magn3ts> truepurple, there are probably configuration directions/guide/instructions on Avast!'s page.
[05:36] <truepurple> magn3ts: And I didn't say it didn't install properly
[05:36] <magn3ts> truepurple, but again, I'd recommend that you spend your security efforts elsewhere.
[05:36] <rcmaehl> Is there a package that I can use to check for errors within ubuntu b/c I have many errors. EG: Application menu entries and open with options that aren't installed
[05:37] <magn3ts> truepurple, you called it corrupt more than once. I don't know what that means, but it doesn't mean, I didn't configure it right ....
[05:37] <truepurple> magn3ts: That is another discussion, I still have no way to remove it
[05:37] <magn3ts> truepurple, again... `sudo apt-get remove <pkgname>`
[05:37] <truepurple> magn3ts: That you didn't?
[05:37] <truepurple> magn3ts: What is package name I asked
[05:37] <magn3ts> I don't know, you're the one that installed it >_<
[05:38] <magn3ts> `dpkg -l | grep avast`
[05:38] <magn3ts> should tell you the pkg name hopefully.
[05:38] <truepurple> magn3ts: I asked, is that the name of the file I downloaded?
[05:38] <magn3ts> I don't know, I didn't install it, I didn't package it... they can name it "super-awesome-pkg-1.0" for all I know
[05:38] <truepurple> avast4workstation:i386                1.3.0                                      avast! antivirus for Linux
[05:38] <truepurple> Is it the first part that would be the package name?
[05:38] <magn3ts> `sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation`
[05:39] <maahes> truepurple: Are you running a mail server?
[05:39] <magn3ts> truepurple, yes, you probably need to leave off the architecture--- ":i386"
[05:39] <truepurple> maahes: No
[05:39] <maahes> truepurple: then why do you need avast on linux?
[05:39] <magn3ts> maahes, lol, we've already kinda talked about that, right now he just wants to get avast out.
[05:40] <nit-wit> truepurple, this this command will show what is installed.   dpkg --get-selections | grep avast
[05:40] <truepurple> magn3ts: It doesn't find the package to remove it
[05:40] <magn3ts> nit-wit, we already did that
[05:40] <magn3ts> truepurple, what do you mean?
[05:40] <gamax92> http://www.mygame.com/game/solar-chiefs
[05:40] <nit-wit> magn3ts, cool I was busy.;)
[05:40] <maahes> ah, if it has an install script that shows where it's unpacking the files, you can go to those dirs and manually delete them I guess.
[05:40] <magn3ts> `sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation`   or `sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation:i386`
[05:40] <truepurple> sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation
[05:40] <faina> Avast..:i386 is a different architecture
[05:40] <truepurple> pkg: warning: there's no installed package matching avast
[05:40] <truepurple> a@myubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -r sudo apt-get remove avast4workstationsudo apt-get remove avast4workstation
[05:40] <truepurple> dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching apt-get
[05:40] <truepurple> and so on
[05:40] <faina> I think you need to include the :i386 to tell apt that its not a normal package
[05:41] <jeeves_moss> how do I get my NTPd server to service global NTP requests?
[05:41] <magn3ts> truepurple, that's not the command I told you to run
[05:41] <magn3ts> truepurple, ... just look at it....
[05:41] <maahes> truepurple: what type of package is this, and how did you install it?
[05:41] <magn3ts> guys, hold on, I know what's going on and have instructions for him, but he's having a hard time because of conflicting methods.
[05:41] <maahes> magn3ts: np
[05:42] <magn3ts> truepurple, open a completely new terminal. type `sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation` and it will go away.
[05:42] <truepurple> magn3ts: I think I just tried that
[05:42] <magn3ts> no you didn't...
[05:42] <magn3ts> you *just* showed me the command you ran....  sudo dpkg -r sudo apt-get remove avast4workstationsudo
[05:42] <faina> I think you need to do sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation:i386
[05:43] <faina> Assuming you're running amd64 and not i386
[05:43] <truepurple> Reading package lists... Done
[05:43] <truepurple> Building dependency tree
[05:43] <truepurple> Reading state information... Done
[05:43] <nishant> .
[05:43] <truepurple> E: Unable to locate package avast4workstation
[05:43] <phiV> hey
[05:43] <magn3ts> truepurple, okay, follow faina's suggestion.
[05:43] <magn3ts> truepurple, `sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation:i386`
[05:43] <truepurple> do sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation:i386
[05:43] <truepurple> oops
[05:43] <faina> (I had that problem with nokia's scratchbox packages)
[05:44] <truepurple> same thing
[05:44]  * rcmaehl srsly would pay money sometimes just to get linux help
[05:44] <magn3ts> rcmaehl, I'm trying buddy, I still don't know what your problem actually is.
[05:44] <magn3ts> rcmaehl, you can manually add bad menu entries in ubuntu... there's nothing that can magically be done about that.
[05:44] <rcmaehl> magn3ts: basically ubuntu thinks things are there that aren't
[05:44] <truepurple> magn3ts: Same thing happened
[05:44] <rcmaehl> and it causes major hard freezes
[05:45] <truepurple> faina: It didn't work
[05:45] <magn3ts> truepurple, paste the full output of `sudo dpkg -l | grep avast` ... there should be letters at the end of one of the lines.
[05:45] <OxDeadC0de> can anyone tell me how to launch xorg from *ubuntu11.04 , then launch xterm into that xorg session, so no wm is running?
[05:45] <rcmaehl> like if a default open with program is missing b/c ubuntu thinks its installed ubuntu will hard freeze
[05:45] <magn3ts> rcmaehl, what causes major hard freezes?
[05:45] <magn3ts> There are a million different things you could be referring to at the moment.
[05:45] <truepurple> I just did before magn3ts, just look up a little in chat history
[05:46] <magn3ts> truepurple, you left out the beginning on the line.
[05:46] <rcmaehl> magn3ts: alot
[05:46] <rcmaehl> magn3ts: alot of things
[05:46] <rcmaehl> magn3ts: trying to open libreoffice when it's not installed
[05:46] <rcmaehl> magn3ts: etc
[05:46] <truepurple> magn3ts: The beginning is only the input line
[05:46] <truepurple> a@myubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation:i386
[05:46] <truepurple> Reading package lists... Done
[05:46] <truepurple> Building dependency tree
[05:46] <truepurple> Reading state information... Done
[05:46] <truepurple> E: Unable to locate package avast4workstation:i386
[05:46] <FloodBot1> truepurple: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:47] <magn3ts> rcmaehl, what do you mean? If you click a DOCX file and Libreoffice isn't installed... nautilus shouldn't try to open it with it... and even if it did, it would just fail.
[05:47] <magn3ts> truepurple, good lord on this green earth
[05:47] <magn3ts> truepurple, read.
[05:47] <magn3ts> truepurple, paste the full output of `sudo dpkg -l | grep avast` ... there should be letters at the end of one of the lines.
[05:47] <rcmaehl> magn3ts: i know but it doesn't. it hard freezes
[05:47] <centHOGG> ram check
[05:47] <magn3ts> rcmaehl, I don't understand how that could happen, OR how it could lead to a hard halt.
[05:48] <rcmaehl> magn3ts: that's what I'm trying to figure out
[05:48] <magn3ts> rcmaehl, with one of these files.... in nautilus... if you right click... what is the default "Open With" application?
[05:48] <truepurple> magn3ts: There isn't. Only "ii  avast4workstation:i386                1.3.0                                      avast! antivirus for Linux"
[05:48] <magn3ts> truepurple, right, you left off the "ii" before.
[05:49] <truepurple> That is at the beginning though
[05:49] <magn3ts> truepurple, `sudo dpkg -r avast4workstation`   and then if that fails `sudo dpkg -r avast4workstation:i386"
[05:49] <magn3ts> truepurple, sorry, I did misspeak, I forgot where the position of the indicator was. Sorry.
[05:49] <wslayer> my system failed to load nvidia kernel module
[05:49] <rcmaehl> magn3ts: I'll just do a reinstall
[05:49] <magn3ts> :/ well I guess he's gone. lol
[05:50] <wslayer> how do I load the nvidia kernel module?
[05:50] <magn3ts> modprobe nvidia or something like it I suppose
[05:50] <truepurple> magn3ts: Those look like the two lines I already tried
[05:51] <newbieroot> exo
[05:51] <newbieroot> exit
[05:51] <newbieroot> end
[05:51] <juancarlospaco> it should load on boot on normal working
[05:51] <magn3ts> I had you try 'apt-get'. I would be surprised to find out that 'dpkg' worked and 'apt-get' didn't, but I have no idea what the deal is.
[05:51] <superzheng> hello
[05:51] <superzheng> who
[05:51] <magn3ts> juancarlospaco is right. If the nvidia module isn't loadign at boot, it's probably not going to work the way you're expecting it too.
[05:51] <magn3ts> superzheng, hi
[05:52] <superzheng> china
[05:52] <superzheng> you?
[05:52] <magn3ts> !cn
[05:52] <wslayer> FATAL? Module nvidia not found
[05:52] <truepurple> magn3ts sudo dpkg -r avast4workstation:i386 worked!
[05:52] <magn3ts> haelulah
[05:53] <magn3ts> lol, glad you got it worked out truepurple :)
[05:53] <faina> Magn3ts, I wonder if apt was stripping the architecture flag?
[05:53] <truepurple> magn3ts: Now why do you feel antivirus programs are a bad thing?
[05:53] <faina> And that's why dpkg worked?
[05:53] <magn3ts> faina, probably, I don't know what form it expects. I should look it up.
[05:53] <magn3ts> truepurple, just unnecessary, and if you're worried about security, there are other issues more important worth securing in ubuntu.
[05:53] <galamar> Hello, I am not able to get my hp LaserJet 1000 printer to respond.... It installs the drivers when I plug it in and show up as available but just won't print?
[05:53] <wslayer> how do I get rid of my custom xorg.conf and make xorg autodetect again?
[05:53] <magn3ts> truepurple, I've never heard of, in my entire life online and in the industry... heard of someone getting a virus in linux
[05:53] <truepurple> magn3ts: Like?
[05:53] <thegoodcushion> galamar: what distro?
[05:54] <magn3ts> truepurple, but within the last 12 months, I've personally known of two collegaues who had intrusions in their linux systems because they were out of date and insecure
[05:54] <galamar> 10.04
[05:54] <magn3ts> truepurple, for example, ubuntu does not ship with a firewall enabled...
[05:54] <wslayer> how do I make xorg autodetect my settings again?
[05:54] <thegoodcushion> galamar: install the latest version of hplip from the hp website
[05:54] <magn3ts> truepurple, and if you happen to install openssh-server... it is not secured at all either.
[05:54] <thegoodcushion> galamar: then it will work, trust me
[05:54] <wslayer> instead of loading the custom xorg.conf
[05:54] <sean____3> how can i view my wifi network from terminal
[05:54] <galamar> ok thank you
[05:54] <magn3ts> wslayer, there's an nvidia tool for it... but if you install through jockey-gtk on any recent version of ubuntu it should do all of that for you.
[05:55] <faina> sean, iwconfig list
[05:55] <KG> Do any of you know how to manually add /dev/dsp_in to the Sound Preferences ?
[05:55] <sean____3> how would i telll if my wifi i being hacked
[05:55] <magn3ts> wslayer, you may want to look at nvidia-xconfig, but like I said, I'd try letting jockey-gtk do it for you if possible. (also, before getting too worked up, make sure your graphics card is supported by the nvidia driver)
[05:55] <sandrossv> Hello
[05:55] <KG> sean, check the logs
[05:55] <sandrossv> May someone tell me where is the everything.log on ubuntu ?
[05:56] <magn3ts> sean____3, that's a loaded question. It depends on what you mean by "wifi being hacked", and it might not be on topic for this room. You can PM me if you like.
[05:56] <KG> if you see a mac address you know shouldn't be on it, then you know
[05:56] <faina> Er,... sean, I was wrong I think iwlist wlan0 (or other device) scan
[05:56] <faina> logs are in /var/log
[05:56] <magn3ts> sandrossv, what does that mean? everything.log ?
[05:56] <wslayer> magn3ts: hm thanks
[05:56] <magn3ts> wslayer, surely.
[05:56] <truepurple> magn3ts: You think I should install a firewall? What one?
[05:56] <sandrossv> magn3ts: it's all logs in one
[05:56] <magn3ts> sandrossv, oh, just magically?
[05:56] <faina> truepurple, at my work we've used ufw
[05:57] <KG> Wifi router or Ubuntu box set up as a router?  Either way, logs
[05:57] <magn3ts> sandrossv, you could cat or tail all of /var/log, but ubuntu doesn't ship with any sort of everything.log configured unless I'm missing something.
[05:57] <sandrossv> magn3ts: idk, i have it on my arch, but not in ubuntu
[05:57] <truepurple> faina: And it's good?
[05:57] <faina> Though ufw's ipv6 support was a bit weak
[05:57] <magn3ts> truepurple, a home computer behind a router? No. I think you're overly worried about it.
[05:57] <sandrossv> magn3ts: ok, ty
[05:57] <faina> ufw is a simple command line configuration tool to control iptables
[05:57] <magn3ts> truepurple, the computers that got hacked were enterprise linux servers on a public network with no protection run by idiots.
[05:57] <KG> I still need to get a mic into the sound prefs that isn't showing up
[05:57] <truepurple> magn3ts: No router, just a regular DSL modem
[05:57] <faina> ufw offers commands like "ufw limit ssh"
[05:57] <faina> or "ufw allow 80"
[05:58] <KG> The sound card shows up in the output....
[05:58] <KG> I had to switch to OSS and Enlightenment to get that to work
[05:58] <magn3ts> truepurple, honestly, if I were you, and I'm fairly self conscious about this sort of thing normally.... I would go out, buy a cheap wireless router (they all come with NAT firewalls that will keep you plenty safe day to day) and not worry about it.
[05:58] <KG> So alsa isn't an option in this case
[05:58] <truepurple> magn3ts: The thing is though, I do plan to set up a dual boot system too
[05:58] <magn3ts> truepurple, so?
[05:58] <KG> but I wanted to drop in here and find out if anyone knows anything about that
[05:58] <magn3ts> if you want Windows to be secure, by all means, use antivirus in widnows.
[05:59] <truepurple> magn3ts: I'd like to have a antivirus in linux so I can deal with viruses from a uninfected system
[05:59] <magn3ts> I don't know that linux based AV will fight Windows infections though.
[05:59] <magn3ts> They might I suppose... IDK.
[05:59] <faina> truepurple, actually a better choice for linux is something like aide -- its a tool that scans a system and builds a list of installed file checksums
[05:59] <truepurple> magn3ts: Actually, I am told by many that is most of what they do
[06:00] <truepurple> faina: And a novice can use this to determine infection?
[06:00] <magn3ts> truepurple, I see. Then I suppose I understand a bit more why you want this. I also think you're still being overly worried though, Install Microsoft Security Essentials, use chrome and don't download porn.exe and you'll be okay.
[06:00] <faina> Novice, that's a good question. It'll just tell you if files were modified.
[06:01] <truepurple> magn3ts: I'd rather use firefox
[06:01] <magn3ts> But that's not what you're asking I suppose... if you want AV in Linux, you can use it, and scanning Windows is a fairly legitimate reason I suppose.
[06:01] <faina> Use noscript with firefox?
[06:01] <magn3ts> *shudder* well that's probably fine too.
[06:01] <magn3ts> faina, just fyi, chrome has built in noscript basically.
[06:01] <faina> I thought chrome just had better sandboxing?
[06:01] <truepurple> magn3ts: Also, just because linux is secure from infection, doesn't mean ones browser can't be compromised by maleware
[06:01] <faina> Not "don't run anything from this site"
[06:02] <Firefishe> I just upgraded to Firefox 5, and now some of my extensions are toast.  How do I do a downgrade?
[06:02] <wslayer> my xorg won`t start even with vesa
[06:02] <Firefishe> Running 10.04
[06:02] <centHOGG> Firefishe: welcome to linux firefox nightmare
[06:02] <magn3ts> faina, no it has that too.
[06:03] <truepurple> magn3ts: As far as chrome goes, I guess I am a bit biased against it considering how invasive google has become
[06:03] <magn3ts> truepurple, what do yo umean?
[06:03] <magn3ts> what does that even mean? invasive? it's an open source browser dude?
[06:03] <faina> Magn3ts, neat, I'll have to check chrome out again.
[06:03] <truepurple> magn3ts: Please elaborate on on "what do you mean"
[06:03] <Firefishe> centHOGG: I mean, the codebase *will* catch up with it, eventually, but I'd like to just go back to the way it was.
[06:03] <magn3ts> how is a browser going to be "compromised via malware" ?
[06:03] <TSG> qin, Yes i'm here
[06:04] <TSG> Just semi away from keyboard at time
[06:04] <TSG> s
[06:04] <truepurple> magn3ts: Maleware=vicious programs that cause advertising to be forced onto your computer or steal information, but are not "viruses"
[06:05] <centHOGG> Firefishe: goodluckwidthat... i just had to reinstall after that happened to me... switch off upgrades when you use LTS
[06:05] <wslayer> my new x configuration file was written to /etc/X11/XF86Config
[06:05] <magn3ts> truepurple, they're basically the same though... they exploit a hole in the system or get the user to intervene....
[06:05] <faina> Truepurple, most cases malware has to be installed by the user.
[06:05] <magn3ts> truepurple, if either of those happen, you're screwed either way and no amount of anything is going to fix it.
[06:05] <Firefishe> centHOGG: reinstall the entire os??
[06:05] <wslayer> i need help with xorg
[06:05] <centHOGG> :(
[06:05] <magn3ts> wslayer, XF86Config? you're using ubuntu right?
[06:06] <magn3ts> wslayer, a recent version of ubuntu right? lol
[06:06] <wslayer> magn3ts: yes
[06:06] <truepurple> faina: That is wrong, most malware secretly installs itself onto your browser, and linux promissions do not apply to browser installations
[06:06] <Firefishe> centHOGG: I'm not reinstalling the entire os just for one browser...my primary extensions like NoScript and Ad Block Plus work.  Cool Iris--my *eye candy*--doesn't. ;-)
[06:06] <wslayer> magn3ts: ubuntu 11.04
[06:06] <magn3ts> >_< truepurple that's wildly inaccurate.
[06:06] <centHOGG> :)
[06:06] <Firefishe> I like eye candy ;)
[06:06] <magn3ts> like, beyond wildly inaccurate.
[06:06] <magn3ts> although with Firefox I'd believe it a lot more than Chrome, but it's still not a fair depiction of how malware works at all.
[06:06] <wslayer> magn3ts: nvidia-xconfig produced that XF86Config
[06:06] <truepurple> magn3ts: Your speaking against my direct experience with such programs, so please elaborate
[06:06] <magn3ts> wslayer, yeah, that's just weird.
[06:07] <truepurple> magn3ts: In what ways am I so wrong?
[06:07] <magn3ts> I would like to hear of the experience where malware infected a browser.... and then magically how browsers escape the Linux permission system.
[06:08] <truepurple> magn3ts: Malware does install itself, are you disputing this?
[06:08] <magn3ts> One thing I've never heard of ... and then another that I know to be categorically impossible.
[06:08] <rcconf> hi all
[06:08] <magn3ts> truepurple, of course I am.
[06:08] <centHOGG> magn3ts: concur
[06:08] <magn3ts> truepurple, that's absurd, anyone can just make a program magically install itself?
[06:08] <truepurple> magn3ts: It uses exploits to do so
[06:08] <rcconf> could someone check if this file exists in Maverick? /etc/init.d/network-manager.conf
[06:08] <rcconf> tks
[06:08] <magn3ts> right, exploits that don't exist in linux
[06:09] <truepurple> magn3ts: But they do exist in the browser
[06:09] <faina> For the install a previous version of firefox, you might be to downgrade with "apt-get -s install firefox=4.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu3".
[06:09] <faina> er without the -s
[06:09] <centHOGG> i mean like a worm for linux LAMP systems
[06:09] <centHOGG> possible
[06:09] <magn3ts> truepurple, even if they do, I've never heard of a Firefox bug in linux that allows native code execution and I know there's never ever been a case of escalation thru the browser.
[06:09] <truepurple> magn3ts: I have installed apps and games onto my browser under ubuntu, and not a single time has it asked for a password
[06:10] <magn3ts> And if you're worried about a browser bug allowing system access... you're about 100x better off with Chrome than Firefox.
[06:10] <magn3ts> truepurple, right, those browsers and "apps"... can't touch a damn thing on your computer.
[06:10] <magn3ts> They can't access your files, your settings, the command line, dpkg, apt, anything. none.
[06:10] <truepurple> magn3ts: All they need to do is touch stuff on the browser level, it doesnt need to escape the browser to cause you problems
[06:10] <magn3ts> I don't even know what "installing an app into my browser" means with Firefox...
[06:10] <magn3ts> truepurple, of course it does.
[06:10] <centHOGG> you could get "phished" on a linux system... any os
[06:11] <magn3ts> I just don't understand the scenario you're trying to prevent against... if you can give me a scenario from start to infection... I can explain how it's either not a high risk... or impossible.
[06:11] <rcconf> could someone check if this file exists in Maverick? /etc/init.d/network-manager.conf
[06:12] <truepurple> magn3ts: Like plugins, or flash games, or it will install a webpage onto your browser for display
[06:12] <faina> rcconf conf files aren't usually in /etc/init.d
[06:12] <faina> though I don't have a maverick system to check on
[06:12] <magn3ts> truepurple, false. plugins require root privileges unless you do a local manual install in your profile.
[06:12] <magn3ts> truepurple, flash games... are flash games... again, they can't touch anything on your computer, period.
[06:13] <magn3ts> do you understand how browser plugins and flash content works?
[06:13] <truepurple> They can touch things in your browser
[06:13] <magn3ts> "install a webpage onto your browser" wat?
[06:13] <magn3ts> truepurple, that's not even true.
[06:13] <magn3ts> Flash can't do anything to my browser... except render content in it when Chrome asks it to.
[06:13] <faina> magn3ts, the browser can touch things that the user id the process is running as has access to
[06:13] <magn3ts> faina, the browser can, but not flash content.
[06:14] <rcconf> faina: tks for your answer I did a locate and found it /etc/init/network-manager.conf
[06:14] <rcconf> ;)
[06:14] <faina> There's also the problem that the browser can read/write to the clipboard.
[06:14] <magn3ts> faina, if there's an exploit it can, but it still can't install software on the local machine without an additional esclation exploit, which I've never ever ever seen in a linux systme, ever.
[06:14] <koffeehaus> test
[06:14] <koffeehaus> ok
[06:14] <magn3ts> faina, again, only through an exploit or flash.
[06:14] <faina> Well yes.
[06:14] <magn3ts> I have no problem with not trusting flash... Flash is click to enable in Chrome for me.
[06:14] <rcconf> magn3ts: what exploit
[06:15] <magn3ts> rcconf, for what?
[06:15] <faina> For your system to get truely rooted you usually need multiple failures
[06:15] <rcconf> what r u talking about
[06:15] <centHOGG> easy test... with your linux browser go to every sick site you can think of... then download the contents of your browser profile to a windows system folder... scan that folder
[06:15] <magn3ts> rcconf, I just meant I can't do <script>alert(system.clipboard)</script> in a webpage.
[06:15] <faina> A lot of the extra security comes from not running as priviledged user
[06:15] <centHOGG> the exploits will all be .exe
[06:15] <rcconf> ot: use noscript addon ;)
[06:15] <magn3ts> faina, I think he's just confused about interactive webapps, flash content, plugins, and true local applications.
[06:15] <rcconf> and dont use windows
[06:15] <rcconf> lol
[06:16] <faina> ok
[06:16] <magn3ts> rcconf, right, but I use Chrome and it's just click-to-enable flash and I have to exempt pages to use javscript. no extension needed :P
[06:16] <truepurple> magn3ts: Again, I never said it could go past ones browser
[06:16] <magn3ts> truepurple, but you still haven't outlined any damage that can be done from a page, or from the browser itself being somehow compromised...
[06:16] <truepurple> And I installed a session plugin without any sudo password required.
[06:16] <magn3ts> Firefox asks you if you want to install an extension
[06:16] <faina> I do think that chrome is supposed to have better sandboxing between different websites
[06:16] <magn3ts> truepurple, no, you probably installed an extension
[06:16] <rcconf> magn3ts: what do you mean with click-to-enable
[06:17] <faina> since each page is being rendered in a seperate process
[06:17] <magn3ts> truepurple, extensions are extremely limited in what they can do. Again, they can't access your files or the system to install anything....
[06:17] <magn3ts> jeeez
[06:17] <wslayer> magn3ts, the browser vulnerabity can`t allow the malicious code to download remote stuff?
[06:17] <truepurple> magn3ts: They can collect your information, passwords, etc. They can force advertising which slows down your PC
[06:17] <DND> guys do you know any cloud server software that can do "dropbox" like services?
[06:17] <magn3ts> rcconf, if I go to YouTube there is a gray box until I click it and then flash can load in.
[06:17] <magn3ts> truepurple, so don't install that extension
[06:17] <magn3ts> or just delete it!
[06:17] <rcconf> magn3ts: in firefox you can enable/disable plugins whenever you want
[06:18] <truepurple> magn3ts: They secretly install themselves onto your browser
[06:18] <magn3ts> rcconf, right, but I want to be able to enable it quickly for jsut a single piece of flash content.
[06:18] <rcconf> magn3ts: oh ok i can do that with noscript :P
[06:18] <magn3ts> truepurple, no. no they don't.
[06:18] <magn3ts> truepurple, that is patently false.
[06:18] <faina> magn3ts is right... firefox will always list the installed extensions
[06:18] <magn3ts> if you can produce an example of an auto-installing extension in Firefox... well.... someone will pay you a lot of money for that. A LOT of money.
[06:18] <rcconf> magn3ts: anyway this ubuntu channel not firefox or chrome
[06:18] <magn3ts> Like, Mozilla would give you thousands probably... hackers would give you more than that.
[06:19] <truepurple> magn3ts: I have a conversation with a fellow named peth who was able to give me script for opening windows browser links when noone here even had a idea they existed, I will go through the conversation, it will take a bit though
[06:19] <magn3ts> rcconf, you're right, this is all surrounding the need for AV software in Ubuntu and I really want to help get this straightened out. I'll drop it in another minute.
[06:19] <magn3ts> truepurple, so what?
[06:19] <magn3ts> truepurple, I can write the code for that right now
[06:19] <faina> Heck there's a python module to do that in a multi-platform way
[06:19] <magn3ts> that's just javascript...
[06:20] <truepurple> I didnt need any javacript to accomplish it
[06:20] <faina> xdg-open http://google.com?
[06:20] <magn3ts> I don't know what you're talking about then.
[06:20] <rcconf> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/787192/comments/8
[06:21] <rcconf> I hate that bug
[06:21] <truepurple> When you create a link draging the icon next to a web url in your browser to desktop or folder, that is what I call a web link.
[06:21] <magn3ts> network-manager bug? no, you don't say, haha
[06:21] <faina> But my example is the OS is allowed to control the browser.
[06:21] <magn3ts> truepurple, so now we're back to being in the OS instead of the browser... that changes the conversation 100%...
[06:21] <truepurple> Normally those made under windows doesn't work under ubuntu, turns out a couple lines of code is all that it takes
[06:22] <magn3ts> truepurple, yeah, so what? Again, I can write that code right now for you...
[06:22] <rcconf> magn3ts: cant connect using wpa when mac address is spoofed (using network-manager ofc)
[06:22] <magn3ts> What's the point? how is that harmful or damaging?
[06:22] <truepurple> You said javascript
[06:22] <westz> what the heck are these two arguin about?
[06:22] <magn3ts> westz, he's convinced a flash game is going to get root access and eat his computer
[06:22] <ubuntuinstall> hi all, im getting stuck at the keyboard layout part of installing ubuntu 11 can anyone help me? i have a japanese keyboard on the laptop
[06:22] <russellsteapot> Is there any place in particular that I should put Windows programs for Wine? Looking for the Program Files equivalent. Thanks for the help.
[06:22] <truepurple> Iet me read the conversation
[06:22] <westz> magn3ts, LAWL
[06:22] <wslayer> magn3ts: isn`t that possible?
[06:22] <magn3ts> truepurple, just explain how these windows links are a security problem
[06:23] <rcconf> ubuntuinstall: I had that problem in Maverick
[06:23] <truepurple> magn3ts: I never said anything like that
[06:23] <faina> a default windows install process with wine installs into ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files
[06:23] <magn3ts> wslayer, through like 3 different independent and high risk bugs, the likes of which I've never seen before, yes.
[06:23] <ubuntuinstall> member:rcconf: what did u do to get around that?
[06:23] <rcconf> ubuntuinstall: I just used english and then changed the layout
[06:23] <magn3ts> truepurple, then why the hell are we talking about browser extensions, flash plugins and links to webpages dude.
[06:23] <rcconf> ubuntuinstall: after install
[06:24] <ubuntuinstall> member:rcconf: i clicked on us layout but it doesn't allow me to click on OK
[06:24] <truepurple> magn3ts: I was just saying peth was able to help me where most weren't able to, so she must be knowledgable, and peth said this concept of linux being bulletproof is erronous.
[06:24] <magn3ts> I'm honestly on the verge of calling you a troll and walking away because you're bouncing around from unrelated area to the other, and I've yet to hear anything that even made senes
[06:24] <faina> What about ... if you're feeling really paranoid, just use a live cd for your browsing?
[06:24] <magn3ts> bulletproof? of course not.
[06:24] <rcconf> ubuntuinstall: oh and be caferul when typing the password
[06:24] <Firefishe> I had a flash game once, but the profilgrate nudity of the  game disabled it's being used widely and ... *duck
[06:24] <honghong> hi
[06:24] <rcconf> ubuntuinstall: just reboot the machine and boot again from livecd
[06:24] <rcconf> and hit english
[06:24] <magn3ts> you're using a computer with code written by a human being... there are bugs. There are probably security bugs. There always will be bugs in anything more than mov $2, $edx
[06:25] <ubuntuinstall> rcconf i'm doing that now. hopefully it'll go this time
[06:25] <ubuntuinstall> rcconf: thx it went past that screen now. cheers!
[06:25] <rcconf> ;)
[06:25] <magn3ts> truepurple, you also need to keep in mnd... that the things youre talking about... AV and Firewall would NOT protect against.
[06:25] <westz> i agree with magn3ts, any code is going to have bugs. hell i've seen someone typo 'print "hello world"'
[06:25] <rcconf> ubuntuinstall: dont forget password will be different with that layout..
[06:26] <truepurple> magn3ts: I know that, thats for the dual booting
[06:26] <magn3ts> truepurple, okay, and that I still understand.
[06:26] <magn3ts> well I don't know how a firewall in linux will help windows but yeah...
[06:26] <truepurple> magn3ts: And it was someone else that suggested the firewall
[06:26] <ubuntuinstall> rcconf i'll try to just stick to alphabets and numbers
[06:27] <magn3ts> truepurple, yeah, I did... but that was for locking down your ubuntu install primarily.
[06:27] <magn3ts> truepurple, and honestly, if you're NOT behind a NAT... you probably should configure a firewall.
[06:27] <magn3ts> IMO, the 50-60$ router is cheaper, easier and less error prone, but that's up to you of course
[06:27] <rcconf> ubuntuinstall: anyway you can change password later
[06:27] <faina> magn3ts, don't forget disable unnecessary services....
[06:27] <truepurple> magn3ts: Terminology problem, What do you mean "locking down your ubuntu install"? And what is NAT?
[06:28] <rcconf> ubuntuinstall: and if you change password also for the gnome keyring
[06:28] <magn3ts> faina, do you disable much out of the box? There's no ssh by default in the desktop version ,etc.
[06:28] <magn3ts> truepurple, I just meant the Linux firewall will only help protect you while you're in Ubuntu...
[06:28] <westz> the chances of getting a virus in linux are insanely slim. the chances of getting a virus in linux that'll attack your windows partition are practically nonexistant. the chances of getting a virus in linux that will attack your windows partition from a flash game are completely 0%
[06:28] <magn3ts> truepurple, I don't know what NAT stands for... but it protects you against people trying to attack you via services running and listening to the network.
[06:28] <TA5K> HI, I want to disable as much logging as possible in Linux. How to do this?
[06:28] <Holo> ok guys, serious question
[06:29] <magn3ts> westz, right, but from a paranoid standpoint, the chances of a network intrusion are greater than a virus, so I'm trying to focus him in that direction.
[06:29] <Holo> Are zombies turing complete?
[06:29] <ZykoticK9> magn3ts, Network Address Translation
[06:29] <slimjimflim> anybody know how to convert amr to wav?
[06:29] <magn3ts> ZykoticK9, makes sense, thanks.
[06:29] <truepurple> magn3ts: Ok, what is it and how do I determine if I have it?
[06:29] <faina> Occasionally I debate if avahi is a problem... I just occasioanally run netstat --inet -a to see if something got opened when I wasn't looking
[06:29] <rcconf> TA5K: I wanted to know that too but I realized logs sometimes are important..
[06:29] <truepurple> magn3ts: That is what I meant more then what it stood for
[06:29] <faina> Some IM programs like to open up extra ports
[06:29] <westz> Holo, they are not machines. syntax error
[06:29] <centHOGG> linux=servers=logs
[06:30] <magn3ts> truepurple, NAT? If you don't have a router... you don't have it.
[06:30] <rcconf> but yeah if someone knows how to completetly disable logging in ubuntu
[06:30] <ZykoticK9> slimjimflim, if you have mplayer install, and if mplayer plays the amr file - you could use "mplayer -vo null -ao pcm FOO.amr" and get a wav dump
[06:30] <magn3ts> faina, for like video?
[06:30] <truepurple> magn3ts: What firewall do you recommend then?
[06:30] <Holo> why wouldn't a zombie be completely deterministic
[06:30] <Holo> to the point where a machine can model it
[06:30] <magn3ts> truepurple, I don't know sadly. you'll have to solicit others' opinions for that one... like I said, I'm behind a router and that's good enough for me :P
[06:30] <rcconf> just use iptables and guwf
[06:30] <Alexander> guys when i convert my .avi video into a .mp4 video in handebreak, handbreak makes the videos into .m4v format and banshee says that my ipod does not support that format. what does this mean?
[06:30] <Rave1> Network Adress Translation
[06:30] <magn3ts> rcconf, consider your audience, lol
[06:31] <rcconf> magn3ts: I also have a router
[06:31] <faina> Video, file transfer, listening for things. I'm not really sure. I've just noticed some weird ports and tracked them back to my IM program
[06:31] <magn3ts> rcconf, I don't even remember how to configure iptables without looking it up every time, and even then I have to have the docs and the file side by side.
[06:31] <ZykoticK9> Alexander, you could try renaming them mp4 and see if it makes a difference?
[06:31] <truepurple> magn3ts: if you think linux permissions protect me from any and all OS level infectious programing, why do you think firewall or router is necessary?
[06:31] <magn3ts> I don't.
[06:31] <truepurple> magn3ts: Or desired
[06:31] <rcconf> magn3ts: you can also use a VPN and hide your IP..
[06:31] <rcconf> :p
[06:31] <Alexander> ZykoticK9, i tried that,but it didnt help. :/
[06:31] <faina> after 4 rules iptables becomes illegible
[06:32] <magn3ts> Desired? Like I said... I'm just trying to focus you on what I think is the weakest link.
[06:32] <centHOGG> energy wasted there truepurple
[06:32] <rcconf> there is firestarter..
[06:32] <rcconf> later
[06:32] <truepurple> magn3ts: Why do you think it is the weakest link?
[06:32] <magn3ts> rcconf, uh, I had a bad experience. maybe it was my fault. it probabyl was,
[06:32] <rcconf> i dont like firestarter :p
[06:32] <magn3ts> truepurple, if you left everything the same... and came and to me in 5 months and told me your machine was compromised... I would guess it was a network based attack.
[06:32] <ZykoticK9> Alexander, be sure you are using the x264 (or similar video) and AAC audio - you might want to confirm the size/bitrate maximums for your iBad device.  Good luck.
[06:33] <faina> truepurple, The theory is called "defense in depth" each extra security layer you decreases the chances of something going wrong
[06:33] <TA5K> rcconf: mmm, what to do then? I really don't care about all the logging files... Is there a howto or something like this
[06:33] <magn3ts> truepurple, because I trust linux permissions and I know that it's a microscopic target.... AND because I've been portscanned by malicious people many times.... and I had someone access my VNC server in ubuntu with a password while on an unprotected network.
[06:33] <centHOGG> if you hate log files switch to dos
[06:33] <faina> At my work we regualarly get ssh brute force attacks
[06:34] <pgold36> I am looking for help getting suspend to work on my dell inspiron laptop
[06:35] <TA5K> My dream is a Linux without any logging or only logging of local information, nothing about networks.
[06:35] <ZykoticK9> pgold36, what model?
[06:35] <TA5K> centHOGG: do do talk to me?
[06:35] <pgold36> Inspiron M5010
[06:35] <westz> pgold36, whats the problem?
[06:35] <pgold36> I choose suspend (or hibernate) and it just locks the screen
[06:35] <centHOGG> TA5K: de do do do, de dah dah dah
[06:35] <faina> TA5K there's quite a bit of configuration possible in /etc/rsyslog.conf
[06:36] <engammalsko> what is a Zone? ipv4 zone or something how do I get it? I don't really understand what it is.
[06:36] <truepurple> magn3ts: You had someone access your "VNC" (whatever that is) server who knew the password?
[06:37] <magn3ts> truepurple, honestly, I don't know. I thought I had a really long password on it, but the speed with which it was opened... I assume that I either didn't get a password typed in... or there was a vulnerability in VNC.
[06:37] <magn3ts> Seeing as there havent' been vulns in VLC for a long time, and vino uses a shared library for it... I'm assuming I fucked up and had an open VNC running which is totally my own fault
[06:37] <magn3ts> And I apologize for the language, I forgot.
[06:37] <TA5K> faina: thx, but can I disable all logsthis way?
[06:38] <truepurple> magn3ts: What is VNC?
[06:38] <faina> A few years ago there was a VNC vulnerability that let the client specify "NO AUTH"
[06:38] <rewt> vnc isn't encrypted so it could've been sniffed
[06:39] <faina> TA5K, I think you can
[06:39] <truepurple> What is VNC?
[06:39] <pgold36> VNC = Virtual Network Computing
[06:39] <faina> VNC -virtual network computer, a thing very much like rdesktop
[06:39] <pgold36> remote control software
[06:39] <truepurple> I am guessing the v stands for virtual, but I am more interested in what it is
[06:39] <truepurple> oh
[06:39] <magn3ts> rewt, crap.
[06:40] <magn3ts> rewt, I had not even thought of that at all.
[06:40] <magn3ts> rewt, I'm so used to x-forwarding and whatnot.
[06:40] <pgold36> two people responded to me about my suspend issue, but I am not sure if I missed a second response
[06:40] <faina> magn3ts there's some howtos to do an ssh tunnel for vnc
[06:40] <magn3ts> truepurple, remote desktop, cross platform, not super efficient.
[06:40] <magn3ts> faina, oh it's okay, I use NX now. I think I was just playing with Android stuff... although I suppose since I'm rooted I could still do ssh+Vnc on my phone, but I'll just leave it off for now.
[06:41] <truepurple> magn3ts: Well remote anything is a huge security risk not present in a home PC
[06:41] <magn3ts> lol
[06:41] <truepurple> I mean most
[06:41] <TA5K> faina: ok, thanks. I just try to understand how all this logging on Linux is organized and if there is a centralized service for this
[06:41] <magn3ts> I'm not even sure I should bite.
[06:41] <magn3ts> as long as there's (properly done) auth+encryption, it can be perfectly safe.
[06:41] <truepurple> Well there is that cloud thing I have heard of
[06:41] <faina> TA5K, all system logging gets routed through syslog (or now rsyslog)
[06:41] <magn3ts> unless you're worried about governments with quantum computers cracking ecryption in realtime
[06:42] <TA5K> faina: ... is it possible to filter all logs which are coming through? E.g. with RegEx filters
[06:42] <magn3ts> truepurple, ?? what? yes, I'm very familiar with the concept of cloud computing.
[06:42] <faina> TA5K syslog will route the log messages to different files, systems or nothingness depending on configuration
[06:42] <truepurple> Well if we are talking about weak chains, I would say remote access would be the weakest, of anything
[06:43] <faina> I'd suggest starting with man rsyslog.conf
[06:43] <magn3ts> that's just a really false naive assumption though.
[06:43] <truepurple> I mean its expressely designed to accept outside access
[06:43] <magn3ts> like I could tell everyone here that I'm remoted to my machine via SSH+X-Forwarding and invite them to hack me with everything they have, and they wouldn't bother.
[06:44] <magn3ts> truepurple, heh, there are a lot more things on your computer more readily waiting for a connection, that have been far less penetration-tested than SSH :P
[06:44] <truepurple> magn3ts: Like what?
[06:44] <TA5K> faina:ok, I'll read more about rsyslog.conf, thx :)
[06:45] <faina> TA5K, you're welcome
[06:45]  * magn3ts is embarrassed. I feel safe in saying that I can trust SSH a lot, but I can't immediately think of something waiting for network connections in ubuntu.
[06:45] <magn3ts> CUPS?
[06:46] <truepurple> magn3ts: What are the weaker links you speak of?
[06:46] <Gryllida> !cups
[06:46] <Platz> I get a lot of sshd 'access denied' messages in my authlog.  most from china but not all
[06:46] <Gryllida> Platz: fail2ban helps with auto-block if people try to bruteforce.
[06:47] <magn3ts> truepurple, cups is one, flash, java are others.
[06:47] <magn3ts> Pulseaudio, if it listens publicly.
[06:47] <centHOGG> webmin
[06:47] <Platz> Gryllida: cool will check it out.  thought about iptables to block china but seems like a bit of work
[06:47] <truepurple> magn3ts: What is cups?
[06:48] <Gryllida> Platz: fail2ban blocks if people have a certain amount of login failures. It's configurable.
[06:48] <Gryllida> truepurple: Please see what ubottu said about cups.
[06:48] <Platz> looks awesome, ya
[06:50] <truepurple> How is a printer connection manager software a weak link to security?
[06:50] <magn3ts> it listens on the network
[06:51] <magn3ts> truepurple, you do understand the principle here.. that because SSH is used for remote access... does not make it any more insecure than CUPS which listens for print jobs.
[06:51] <hanasaki> what si the current status of gnome3 support?
[06:52] <magn3ts> They're both equally likely to be exploited in a way that enabled remote access, like, if some sort of unauthorized intrusion happens, period, you're SOL regardless of what application it happes in.
[06:52] <westz> magn3ts, are you just trying to make purple paranoid?
[06:52] <i2iot> is there a cool game for linux like alien arena?
[06:52] <i2iot> got lucky with that one
[06:52] <magn3ts> westz, no, I'm trying to rid him of the assumption that ssh+x-forwarding is insecure simply because the nature of the program is remote access.
[06:52] <faina> westz, given the past 20 minutes I think truepurple started paranoid
[06:53] <wslayer> where do I check the kernel log messages?
[06:53] <westz> i2iot, i hear adanaxis is pretty cool
[06:53] <magn3ts> wslayer, /var/log/kernel.log maybe? in /var/log for sure
[06:53] <i2iot> thanks
[06:54] <truepurple> magn3ts: I asked you what the weakest link was, you said CUPS
[06:55] <magn3ts> right, I'm sure CUPS has been penetration tested orders of magnitudes less than SSH.
[06:55] <magn3ts> SSH is used on any important server everywhere, save for the top one person who's running something disconnected from the internet.
[06:55] <faina> By default cups just listens on localhost
[06:55] <centHOGG> CUPS doesn't work anyway
[06:55] <magn3ts> CUPS is probably run on a fraction of a teenty tiny percent of servers.
[06:55] <engammalsko> Could someone help me to setup a dns server?
[06:56] <centHOGG> heh
[06:57] <hanasaki> engammalsko:  just install the packages and then (bind) search for the specs on the config file
[06:57] <truepurple> magn3ts: Because it listens to the printer port, so unless your printer has its own modem... I am failing to see your point here
[06:57] <westz> truepurple, i'm going to settle this right now. do you often get on unprotected networks? (coffeeshops, mcdonalds)
[06:57] <magn3ts> truepurple, um, cups is all network/socket based.
[06:58] <magn3ts> with client level support for hardware attached printers...
[06:58] <truepurple> westz I don't use wifi
[06:58] <westz> truepurple, have you pissed off a group of vengeful nerds?
[06:58] <BigAl> im new to linux any pointers
[06:58] <frybye> Hi - the musik library I imported into banschee from my windows d: drive is not responding this morning.. any tips?
[06:58] <westz> are you on the run from a governemnt agency?
[06:59] <westz> frybye, make sure the volume is mounted?
[06:59] <i2iot> i just got done hooking up my wii controller and using it as a mouse
[06:59] <magn3ts> westz, probably the only one I'd worry about would be the gov't agency.
[06:59] <engammalsko> hanasaki: Yeah but, what about the domain name? Can I just take one that is't taken? Or do I need to buy one?
[06:59] <kennett> What's a good program to monitor the temp on my system?
[06:59] <i2iot> pretty cool stuff, but it doesn't work during gameplay
[06:59] <frybye> westz: are you on the -payroll- of a govt. agency? ;=)
[06:59] <truepurple> Maybe I don't want to take no security measures at all and assume linux is next to bulletproof because a group of strangers say its so
[06:59] <westz> magn3ts, i agree, but im gonna cover all the bases here
[06:59] <hanasaki> engammalsko:  anyone you want.   as long as you point your box to your dns server it will serve the domain
[07:00] <westz> frybye, technically, not for another 9 days (i'm dead serious actually)
[07:00] <hanasaki> then connect to an upstream server
[07:00] <frybye> westz - how to be sure..
[07:00] <truepurple> westz: Better safe then sorry, and wanting to do something to be more secure is not exactly overdoing it in that regard
[07:00] <magn3ts> truepurple, but there's a natural limit: practicality
[07:01] <westz> truepurple, oh i agree you should be as secure as possible, but when you're bugging the hell out of us, we have every right and reason to tell you to stop obsessing
[07:01] <frybye> westz: you shouldn't be bragging about it here pal hh rbdwccc
[07:01] <truepurple> What impractical thing am I suggesting?
[07:01] <engammalsko> hanasaki: Hmm, what I wanna accomplish is to have a domain instead of an ip. And I can do this with a dns server, right?
[07:01] <frybye> westz: - topic changed by rbddcc
[07:01] <hanasaki> engammalsko:  yes
[07:01] <magn3ts> If insecure is 0, secure is 100... the default ubuntu install would be 95... the things you're talking about would get them to 95.5% secure. To get any higher, you have to take the machine off of the internet and have hardware level access control with physical safety.
[07:01] <westz> truepurple, locking your system down to the point that you might as well not connect to the internet
[07:01] <hanasaki> engammalsko:  you need to go read what dns is
[07:02] <magn3ts> aka, what westz said.
[07:02] <truepurple> westz: I never suggested anything like that
[07:02] <engammalsko> hanasaki: But shouldnt the domain I want to use be the domain I point too?
[07:02] <truepurple> Downloading and installing some security program of some kind is nothing like that
[07:02] <NotTooDumb3> hi all i just installed ubuntu10.10 on my lenovo laptop, how to configure for broadband internet? it detects hardware and the login page opens but it's not connecting after i give login details
[07:02] <westz> truepurple, doesnt matter if you did, you're bugging us about it, so we're going to bug you back until you stop
[07:03] <faina> engammalsko, if you want to have a domain, try asking a hosting company, or a service like dyndns
[07:03] <magn3ts> truepurple, a "security program" just isn't going to do anything.
[07:03] <truepurple> westz your going to bug someone asking for help?
[07:03] <magn3ts> I don't know how much more I can cover this. A security program isn't going to protect you against a zero day exploit.
[07:03] <frybye> westz: and if volume control is operational for other sound apps and the songs in the banschee still not responding ...?
[07:03] <faina> NotTooDumb3, what type of broadband connection is it?
[07:04] <magn3ts> truepurple, a "security program" is going to pop up when you download Smilie.exe in your email. That's ALL the protection you're going to get and no more.
[07:04] <frybye> westz: my problem is lack of experiance with -specific- ubuntu stuff - if you follow me...
[07:04] <westz> truepurple, if you're bugging us instead of just doing your research and figuring it out, yes. absolutely
[07:04] <NotTooDumb3> what type of meaning? how to check that?
[07:04] <truepurple> magn3ts: I don't know how you are using the term security program, but I am using it more generically, antivirus, firewall, antimalware etc
[07:04] <magn3ts> I know.
[07:04] <magn3ts> And my statement stands.
[07:04] <faina> Are you plugged into a phone, a dsl modem, a cable modem, and ethernet jack in the wall?
[07:04] <NotTooDumb3> faina, not dail on connection
[07:04] <magn3ts> Minus the firewall.
[07:04] <westz> frybye, what release? 11.04?
[07:05] <truepurple> So your still suggesting the firewall?
[07:05] <magn3ts> faina, yes, I tried that angle, didn't help
[07:05] <engammalsko> For some reason I can't access any sites anymor when I tried to make a dns server...
[07:05] <NotTooDumb3> faina, yes, phone, modem and ethernet cable
[07:05] <magn3ts> truepurple, yes.
[07:05] <bluemako> hi i just installed 11.04 and i can only start it in failsafe graphics mode, how can i solve this?
[07:05] <frybye> westz: sure thing x64 11.04
[07:05] <magn3ts> truepurple, again, network attacks are your #1 weakest link in my opinion
[07:05] <NotTooDumb3> faina, what is this type of broadband connection called?
[07:05] <truepurple> magn3ts: But based on what you said, why should I worry about that at all?
[07:05] <magn3ts> NotTooDumb3, I'm really sorry, but I don't think faina was talking to you
[07:05] <westz> honestly have no experience with x64 linux, but i dont think there shoul;d be a lot of difference
[07:06] <magn3ts> truepurple, because you should buy a router and not worry about it.
[07:06] <magn3ts> a router is going to instantly block anyone trying to attack you
[07:06] <engammalsko> I stopped bind but I can't still access some sites :s
[07:06] <truepurple> magn3ts: Routers make certain handshaking in group games difficult
[07:06] <NotTooDumb3> magn3ts, do you have any idea about my connection problem?
[07:06] <magn3ts> unless they dual it with a physical attack. literally physically coming to you.
[07:06] <magn3ts> truepurple, yes,... that's how it's protecting you, lol....
[07:06] <truepurple> I mean can make them difficult
[07:06] <westz> magn3ts, LMAO
[07:06] <truepurple> it also interfers with use of my PC...
[07:06] <westz> PHYSICAL ATTACK!
[07:07] <magn3ts> truepurple, ... again... right...
[07:07] <magn3ts> truepurple, that's what a firewall does.
[07:07] <galamar> Anyone know of a good OCR program that can produce a document for editting in openoffice-draw
[07:07] <NotTooDumb3> faina, any suggestions for my connection issue?
[07:07] <faina> NotTooDumb3 can you describe the login page?
[07:07] <truepurple> firewalls do not interfer with those if you open a port for the game
[07:07] <magn3ts> truepurple, a NAT firewall is a safe bet... because most applications can route through NAT securelly...
[07:07] <NotTooDumb3> sure
[07:07] <engammalsko> Lol it was just my router.
[07:07] <magn3ts> truepurple, right, so open a port in the router........
[07:07] <bluemako> like is there maybe a thread on this already, i can't find?
[07:08] <NotTooDumb3> faina, http://reliancebroadband.co.in/reliance/login.do?action=doLoginSubmit, this is the page after logging in..
[07:08] <magn3ts> again, modern games can open ports in NAT themselves by being trusted in your network.
[07:08] <truepurple> magn3ts: I would rather use software then buy a another piece of hardware to claim room on my desk and on my surge protector
[07:08] <Rave1> http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.toonpool.com/u
[07:09] <magn3ts> truepurple, that's fine... I'm telling you though, honestly. openning a port in your router is going to be point-and-clikc in 3 minutes... configuring a firewall in linux to open a port is going to require running a few commands and editting a file with a very specific format.
[07:09] <frybye> westz: assuming useing the import function in banshee to get content from a different drive - the content lands within the ubuntu environment - so it should not matter an iota if the drive (formally known as d:) is mounted or not - cos it will all be on /home now or?
[07:09] <magn3ts> truepurple, and if you want that network level protection... you can just use a software firewall.
[07:09] <truepurple> magn3ts: And how could a network attack do anything against a system immune to forced installation?
[07:10] <timh____> I'm trying to edit GRUB so I can install Linux distributions on other partitions.  Can't find menu.lst
[07:10] <westz> frybye, exactly what error are you getting, if any
[07:10] <NotTooDumb3> faina, did you get any idea about my login page?
[07:10] <envygeeks> network level firewalls are hardware, client level firewalls are software, yes
[07:10] <magn3ts> truepurple, that's cute, but again, I've never ever once said that linux is immune to attack or vulnerabilites that could allow system access.
[07:10] <westz> timh____, menu.lst was deprecated since grub2 i cant remember what the new one is though...
[07:10] <magn3ts> truepurple, but there are 4 different security layers I can think of that would protect against a network exploit leading to a full blown root access.
[07:10] <faina> NotTooDumb3, I couldn't connect directly to the site. its only being served up to systems they're connected to, I'm trying to google up some more useful instructions
[07:11] <frybye> westz: I now see that despite "import" yesterday - there is NO music at /~/music grrr...
[07:11] <magn3ts> truepurple, not to mention how unlikely the initial network exploit would be in the /first/ place.
[07:11] <westz> frybye, just for accuracy, you mean ~/music
[07:11] <envygeeks> timh___: Ubuntu uses grub2, you can probe for other os's in grub using update-grub if I remember right
[07:11] <timh____> westz->>thx maybe there's a wiki on GRUB2
[07:11] <frybye> westz: so I had better go and manually copy the data there - yes  ~/music
[07:11] <envygeeks> !grub2 | timh___
[07:11] <NotTooDumb3> faina, by your statements of describe the login page, what input are you expecting from me? can you help me out?
[07:12] <truepurple> magn3ts: You said nothing could be installed on linux that you don't want installed, but your saying someone actively trying remotely, even on a system not set up to accept remote access could bypass this? Even if they could never figure out my password in a million years?
[07:12] <westz> frybye, try to mount D: and see if it works then, firstly
[07:12] <faina> NotTooDumb3, http://veerasundar.com/blog/2010/06/how-to-make-reliance-netconnect-broadband-to-work-on-ubuntu-10-04/ might be helpful
[07:12] <frybye> is mounted...
[07:12] <timh____> thx all
[07:13] <westz> frybye, banshee's "import" doesnt move any files, it just adds their current paths to the library
[07:13] <westz> frybye, permission errors possibly?
[07:13] <magn3ts> truepurple, take it to PM, this is so far Offtopic it's not funny
[07:15] <bluemako> can someone pm me or something when they can help?
[07:15] <envygeeks> bluemako: what is your question?
[07:15] <bluemako> i can only start in failsafe graphics mode, how to make it work
[07:15] <NotTooDumb3> faina, mine is not a netconnect internet connection with USB for internet connection, i am using ethernet plug for internet connection, wil that link still is useful in my case?
[07:15] <westz> truepurple, dont you know the *NIX mantra? "where there's a shell there's a way" so yes, i'm sure it's possible. but i doubt anyone gives a shit about hacking you. it'd have to be targeted, they'd have to know how your system was set up, it's so unlikely, even if they had physical acces to your computer, that they'd be able to do it. stop whining.
[07:16] <bluemako> or alternatively, force it to boot always into safe graphics mode
[07:16] <Geoffrey2> how can I force ntp to manually update the system time?
[07:17] <Geoffrey2> in other words, make it do a check and sync....
[07:17] <robin0800> bluemako: try classic if your using 11.04
[07:17] <envygeeks> bluemako: if you uninstalled packages for x that are meant to recognise your graphics card that can happen.  Have you recently uninstalled any xorg packages?
[07:17] <NotTooDumb3> faina, that link looks like is not exactly a 1:1 match for my problem.mine is not a mobile broadband connection..any comments?
[07:17] <westz> yay, only 6 hours remaining to finish off a 300 mb torrent.
[07:17] <faina> Geoffrey2, look into ntpdate
[07:17] <envygeeks> !offtopic |westz
[07:18] <westz> alright, fair enough. just needed to vent a little sarcasm
[07:18] <bluemako> no, i didn't uninstall anything, how do i boot into classic because i can only startup with failsafe
[07:18] <Geoffrey2> faina, ntpdate keeps telling me the ntp socket is in use, and exiting
[07:18] <faina> NotTooDumb3, no.
[07:18] <magn3ts> What services have open connections in ubuntu out of the box?
[07:18] <bluemako> like is there something i can add in grub?
[07:18] <magn3ts> Like, will accept incoming connections?
[07:18] <faina> Geoffrey2 service ntp stop
[07:18] <faina> or maybe openntp
[07:18] <frybye> west.. trying some soloutions - back in a bit - btw enjoy your new challenges next week - including the specialness of working for a govt.
[07:19] <envygeeks> bluemako: not really because graphics are handed off to x when it starts up, have you tried to boot into single user root and start gdm and catch it's errors?
[07:19] <Geoffrey2> faina, ok, thanks......
[07:20] <Geoffrey2> faina, that took care of it...
[07:20] <faina> Geoffrey2, ok
[07:20] <bluemako> well i forget what errors i was getting
[07:20] <bluemako> can i just manually install the drivers when i'm in failsafe mode
[07:20] <NotTooDumb2> faina, when i connect ethernet plug to linux machine and give dmesg it says eth0: link up,
[07:20] <bluemako> will it be happy then?
[07:20] <faina> Btw, anyone know of a good disk repair / testing tool for a windows user whose booted off an ubuntu live cd?
[07:21] <robin0800> bluemako: can you get to the log on screen?
[07:21] <bluemako> only in failsafe mode
[07:21] <juancarlospaco> faina: thanks to you:  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~juancarlospaco/+junk/webapps/files
[07:21] <NotTooDumb2> can anyone help me to configure internet connection to 10.10 machine?
[07:21] <juancarlospaco> :D
[07:21] <faina> NotTooDumb2, you probably need to complete the registration process, then you need to find out if they're doing dhcp or PPPoE
[07:21] <bluemako> otherwise it won't even complete a boot regularly
[07:21] <faina> Juancarlospaco yay!
[07:22] <NotTooDumb2> faina, registration process of? and how can i check whether it is dhcp or pppoE connection?
[07:22] <envygeeks> bluemako: yes, you can try to use jockey to install proprietary drivers
[07:22] <faina> The web page you're using sounded like a registration page
[07:23] <envygeeks> !ati | bluemako
[07:23] <robin0800> bluemako you can hold the right shift at boot time to get a grub menu then use recovery mode
[07:23] <NotTooDumb2> connection works fine for windows machines and i have been using this connection from about a year, linux i just installed yesterday
[07:23] <juancarlospaco> :)
[07:23] <NotTooDumb2> in ubuntu machine, after i give login details it does not work, in windows machine it connects and works fine
[07:23] <bluemako> ah man, thanks both of you because i'm not familiar with this
[07:24] <faina> NotTooDumb2, do you know what the windows configuration is?
[07:24] <root> ada yang bisa bantu
[07:24] <faina> And what are you giving login details too?
[07:24] <NotTooDumb2> faina,  i can check now
[07:24] <Xunie> Weir,d when running # update-initramfs -uv I can clearly see that the last module being added is kernel/fs/udf/udf.ko, however, then it stops. What the hell?
[07:24] <Xunie> This broke my packages too. :(
[07:24] <Guest41888> perlu bantun
[07:24] <Platz> quit
[07:24] <NotTooDumb2> faina, i am sure of login details..just login id and password..configurations i can cross check with windows pc and configure, if i get to know exactly waht to  configure
[07:25] <robin0800> Xunie: you are using sudo?
[07:25] <frybye> westz: seems to be fixed - don't ask me how - re- reading the library was part of it but not all - I am 62yo and have only recently got the meds for approaching dement. on the govt. insur. scheme here in Germany - (am brit. airforce veter from a german/english family who used to do german/UK stuff at jhq
[07:25] <bluemako> robin, i went to the grub menu and used recovery mode "failsafe graphics mode" this is the only way it booted up. But i want to solve this.
[07:25] <Xunie> robin0800, sudo su, ofcourse.
[07:25] <frybye> westz: in my case left service more than 24yrs ago...
[07:25] <juancarlospaco> faina: it suppose that i make folders into /+junk if i dont want those files become sort of a proyect, right?
[07:26] <Xunie> robin0800, when executing sudo update-initramfs -uv, same thing happens.
[07:26] <frybye> e e e > 25years
[07:26] <Xunie> $ sudo update-initramfs -uv I mean.
[07:26] <frybye> westz: thanks for your input..
[07:26] <Xunie> robin0800, ideas?
[07:26] <Guest41888> helllo
[07:27] <faina> juancarlospaco, alas you're hitting the limits of my understanding of launchpad
[07:27] <juancarlospaco> ok
[07:27] <timh____> I want to install other Linux distros on other partitions.  Will grub-install find them and create a menu for me?
[07:27] <faina> I think +junk means scratch space... but that's about all I know
[07:27] <juancarlospaco> thankz
[07:27] <juancarlospaco> right, that project a Brainlesstorm actually faina
[07:27] <juancarlospaco> :P
[07:28] <russellsteapot> my second internal hard drive is not showing up. Here is a description http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1795604 thanks for the help
[07:28] <timh____> This is my only computer, and I don't want to be left with a computer that won't boot.
[07:28] <faina> NotTooDumb2 my hunch is you need to setup PPPoE
[07:28] <robin0800> Xunie: I guess there's something it dosen't like not sure how to find it does -vv work?
[07:29] <faina> russellsteapot, is the second disk partitioned?
[07:29] <Xunie> robin0800, tried -vvvv, didn't work. :(
[07:30] <russellsteapot> It's how the company I bought it from sent it to me. It would appear that way from the output though
[07:30] <madsailor> timh____, if you're concerned about borking your system, you should try other distros as a live cd/usb boot while keeping your disk unchanged
[07:32] <hexacode> anyone know an ubuntu utility to look up the ipaddress of every device in the same subnet as im in?
[07:32] <hexacode> like a scanner
[07:32] <dmfn> hexacode, nmap?
[07:33] <hexacode> i already use that
[07:33] <hexacode> was wondering if theres another one/?
[07:34] <russellsteapot> Any thoughts on getting the 2nd drive to show up?
[07:35] <faina> russellsteapot, you probably need to partition it and make a filesystem
[07:37] <gulzar> p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908) The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root. Users of Ubuntu, Fedora or Mandriva should install the DKMS package first. This package keeps track of Linux kernel changes and recompiles the vboxdrv kernel module if necessary.
[07:37] <faina> Russellsteapot, you might want to install gparted
[07:37] <wslayer> why sudo dpkg-reconfigure is doing nothing? it just goes to a newline without giving results
[07:37] <Mike1> hexacode: unicornscan probably
[07:38] <russellsteapot> faina thanks, I'll look into it
[07:38] <Mike1> hexacode: or if you just want to ping whole subnets you could probably write yourself a small script with ping, though it probably would be slow
[07:38] <hexacode> thanks
[07:38] <hexacode> oh wait
[07:38] <hexacode> question about that too
[07:38] <faina> hexacode, ping does have -b (broadcast)
[07:39] <hexacode> i used ping -b 192.168.0.255  , my broadcast address
[07:39] <hexacode> but nothing happened
[07:39] <faina> you might need to run as root
[07:39] <gulzar>  p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908) The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root. Users of Ubuntu, Fedora or Mandriva should install the DKMS package first. This package keeps track of Linux kernel changes and recompiles the vboxdrv kernel module if necessary. What 
[07:39] <hexacode> why doesnt it work?
[07:40] <hexacode> man ping
[07:40] <hexacode> oops
[07:41] <hexacode> lol
[07:42] <dmfn> hexacode, what are you trying to accomplish?
[07:43] <Mike1> ping -b 192.168.0.255 only pings my router (192.168.0.1) though my other computer is up and running too o.O
[07:44] <faina> I don't think all systems respond to the broadcast ping
[07:44] <faina> Also some systems like to block ICMP
[07:45] <dimas_> what is the command to remove a folder that is in my home folder with a lock sign?
[07:46] <dmfn> dimas_, rm -rf
[07:47] <SonorusNew> i was banned on ubuntu-ru, now i have other ip adress and other nickname but i still banned, why ??
[07:47] <faina> dimas_, also could try fixing the permissions? Available with right clicking on the folder icon
[07:47] <dimas_> dmfn that will remove everything with the name i am going to put?....cause there is the conpress package and the actual folder with some text pages too
[07:48] <dmfn> dimas_, Ah you said remove look at what faina said
[07:49] <dimas_> dmfn i cant as was created as root
[07:49] <ermi> hello
[07:49] <goofy_> siema
[07:49] <dmfn> dimas_, You can't sudo chown?
[07:49] <goofy_> co?
[07:49] <dimas_> whats that?
[07:50] <dmfn> dimas_, changes ownership which will get rid of the lock
[07:50] <goofy_> nie
[07:50] <dmfn> dimas_, check out man chown
[07:50] <ermi> tem br as
[07:52] <dimas_> dmfn that mean when i do shown then i can just use the mouse to delete stuff as root?
[07:53] <faina> dimas_ you should be able to. you might want to do "sudo chown -R <your user id> <directory name>"
[07:53] <dmfn> dimas_, chown allows you to give yourself permission to change the files
[07:53] <faina> after that the GUI should allow you to modify the directory
[07:53] <faina> -R makes it recursive, in case things inside that directory are also owned by root
[07:53] <dimas_> oke i give it a try
[07:54] <russellsteapot> When I click on an icon I would like it to minimize the window. How do I set this up? Thanks for your help.
[07:56] <faina> russellsteapot I'm not sure if that's been implemented for unity yet
[07:56] <g0kt> hio
[07:56] <dimas_> dmfn doesnt work so i do it in the terminal but i want to remove and purge?
[07:56] <Holo> does that teapot contain itself?
[07:57] <russellsteapot> faina thanks anyways
[07:57] <russellsteapot> Russell's Teapot, look it up
[07:57] <Holo> I know
[07:57] <Xunie> Well, os-prober is the cause of my headache! Why does thou hang os-prober?! WHYYY?!
[07:57] <faina> Tom's hardware review of ubuntu 11.04 had some unity tweaks... http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubuntu-11.04-natty-narwhal,2943-11.html
[07:57] <Holo> Russell's Paradox, look it up
[07:57] <Xunie> Anyone know what lets os-prober hang?
[07:57] <dmfn> dimas_, Did you see faina comment
[07:57] <russellsteapot> haha, touche
[07:58] <Strav> He. I'm reading about stack smashing protector's patch for gcc as well as the position independent executable patch for the linker and it makes me wonder: is there package repository (on any package based distro), where I can be certain that everything has been compiled with those? (namely where each package has been compiled with "fortified" options)?
[07:59] <dimas_> dmfn yes but the system tell me now there is not soch of directory or folder
[08:01] <eloystebam> spanish??
[08:02] <faina> diams_ the currect directory of the shell is probably not the the directory in your nautilus window
[08:03] <faina> there should be a line above the folder list showing the path
[08:08] <bluebomber> Any C ninjas here?
[08:09] <juancarlospaco> i dont C anyone
[08:09] <Guest41888> has gone
[08:11] <faina> :)
[08:12] <Jordan_U> bluebomber: 1: Next time just ask your actual question. 2: Try the channel ##c.
[08:12] <bluebomber> 2 more appropriate than 1. Thanks, Jordan_U .
[08:13] <Jordan_U> bluebomber: You're welcome.
[08:15] <faina> Where's a good place to ask questions about python packaging policy?
[08:16] <Guest41888> evry 1 know about airdomp-ng start wlan0 why no work
[08:17] <Senjai> exit
[08:19] <gogeta1> bo
[08:19] <Senjai> So guys, coming from 10.10, there is this ugly sidebar on the side now, how can i make ubuntu look like it was before
[08:19] <Senjai> Should i install a theme or.. whatnot
[08:20] <freedom07> lol Senjai
[08:20] <faina> Senjai, I think there's a way to get "classic" from the login screen
[08:21] <gogeta1> Senjai: slect fallback from the session thats relly gnome 2 but after 11.04 your screwed gnome 3 or a diffrent distro. there is also a theme pack to make gnome 3 look like gnome 2
[08:21] <faina> Also maybe kde looks nice these days?
[08:21] <iHaildev> i would recommend on updating to 11.04 it is very nice
[08:21] <faina> ls
[08:22] <gogeta1> iHaildev: i say so to but not stock ubuntu xubuntu kubuntu etc
[08:22] <nikhilm> hi
[08:22] <freedom07> lubuntu is good
[08:22] <tensorpudding> Senjai: it's called unity
[08:22] <nikhilm> i am new to ubunu
[08:22] <tensorpudding> !unity | Senjai
[08:22] <nikhilm> ubuntu
[08:22] <nikhilm> can someone help
[08:22] <gogeta1> !ask
[08:22] <tensorpudding> !classic | Senjai
[08:22] <Senjai> Okay, thanks for the help
[08:22] <Senjai> Why did they change it
[08:22] <gogeta1> Senjai: couse they fail
[08:22] <Senjai> Obviously
[08:23] <tensorpudding> Senjai: because the new one is better
[08:23] <nikhilm> i recenty upgraded from 10.04 to 11.04 and i dont know where to find my files
[08:23] <Senjai> tensorpudding: it is?
[08:23] <tensorpudding> Senjai: yes
[08:23] <Senjai> tensorpudding: how?
[08:23] <gogeta1> Senjai: gnome has changed there ui cannel doesent like to so they made there own however after somne tweaks gnome 3 looks just as good as 2
[08:23] <Senjai> I dont like not being able to see each window on  task bar
[08:23] <nikhilm> can someone advise
[08:23] <nikhilm> ?
[08:23] <tensorpudding> Senjai: also gnome 2 is going the way of the dodo, to be replaced by gnome 3
[08:24] <Senjai> nikhilm, can you be more specific
[08:24] <tensorpudding> nikhilm: your files should be in the same place as before
[08:24] <gogeta1> Senjai: yea as he said but cannel doesent like it to they mad eunity however i have found gnome 3 to be quite good if you change the defult ui
[08:24] <tensorpudding> nikhilm: where were they before
[08:24] <nikhilm> they were on the desktop
[08:24] <tensorpudding> nikhilm: are they in the Desktop folder?
[08:24] <iHaildev> well i really havent done much upgrading on editions i usually have 4+ HDD and I just do a fresh install then transfer files over
[08:25] <nikhilm> i changed my login username for the new version
[08:25] <gogeta1> Senjai: best bet for the novice would be to switch to xubuntu the xfce based one in the futer
[08:25] <faina> nikhilm open the folder browser and look in the desktop folder, they're not going to show up on the desktop now
[08:25] <faina> then look in the old-user/Desktop
[08:25] <nikhilm> they are not there as well
[08:26] <nikhilm> how do i get there
[08:26] <nikhilm> >
[08:26] <nikhilm> ?
[08:26] <tensorpudding> Senjai: they replaced the old menus with a unified searchable, browseable menu that is easier to use and better looking
[08:26] <Senjai> gogeta1: xubuntu? Ive only ever used ubuntu
[08:26] <tensorpudding> Senjai: the hiding behavior can be configured
[08:26] <Senjai> tensorpudding: but linux isn't meant for thqat
[08:26] <tensorpudding> Senjai: you don't want your operating system to be easy to use?
[08:26] <gogeta1> Senjai: its ubuntu repackged to use the xfce window manger the layout is simler to classic gnome 2
[08:27] <iHaildev> nikhilm: hit the home on the launch bar and then got to file system and then usr check that file
[08:27] <pooky> That's such a weird statement "Linux isn't meant for that"
[08:27] <faina> Nikhilm, bring up folder viewer, hit the <| arrow on the 3rd line near your user name. a [home] button should appear. click on that, and you should see the various user directories
[08:27] <tensorpudding> Senjai: ubuntu doesn't claim to represent the aspirations of everyone who runs linux, it just wants to be easy to use, modern and free
[08:28] <gogeta1> Senjai: http://www.xubuntu.org/
[08:28] <tensorpudding> nikhilm: there's a big home menu button on the launcher, too, just hover your mouse on the left edge of the screen, and the launcher will pop up
[08:28] <tensorpudding> err, home folder
[08:29] <iHaildev> tensorpudding: and that is just what they did but it originally was created for the Schools in Africa
[08:29] <nikhilm> ok i have reached the usr folder
[08:29] <faina> Tensor, but he mentioned he changed his username.
[08:29] <gogeta1> Senjai: for now your fine being you can still use gnome 2 but next relese you whont be able to so its better to switch to something like that at that point
[08:29] <tensorpudding> how do you change your username?
[08:29] <iHaildev> brb gotta do a reset
[08:29] <tensorpudding> that requires you to add a new user
[08:29] <tensorpudding> you need to log in as the old one and move the files
[08:29] <nikhilm> i see many directories here
[08:30] <faina> "<nikhilm> i changed my login username for the new version"
[08:30] <nikhilm> yes?
[08:30] <faina> just quoting you for tensors benefit
[08:30] <nikhilm> ok
[08:30] <tensorpudding> that response doesn't make sense though
[08:31] <tensorpudding> did you delete the old user and create a new one? did you change the name of the user?
[08:31] <faina> I was thinking he created a new user for himself, and needs to navigate from /home/new-uid to /home/old-uid/desktop
[08:31] <gogeta1> nikhilm: cant find search?
[08:31] <tensorpudding> he's not going to be able to, because of permissions
[08:32] <faina> if its not a encrypted home directory, he might be able to at least read it?
[08:32] <nikhilm> yes
[08:32] <gogeta1> nikhilm: didnt they intergrate the search for both the net and local file to the top bar
[08:32] <tensorpudding>  /home/<user> is not readable by other users
[08:32] <tensorpudding> this is so you can actually have privacy on a multi-user machine
[08:33] <gogeta1> tensorpudding: if its stock ubuntu they can be viewed by other users
[08:33] <nikhilm> there is another folder with the previous username (one level above the home folder)
[08:33] <tensorpudding> i don't see why that would be
[08:33] <faina> I think its an option. Most of my systems allow reading other user dirs.
[08:33] <tensorpudding> the permissions are 700
[08:33] <nikhilm> it says that i cant mount it
[08:33] <eslam000> .
[08:33] <gogeta1> tensorpudding: i think view only cant do anything else
[08:34] <gogeta1> tensorpudding: so stuf like dearch works
[08:34] <tensorpudding> viewing the Desktop folder would require having execute permissions on the home directory
[08:34] <gogeta1> search
[08:34] <wslayer> what`s the ppa of natty?
[08:34] <wslayer> please
[08:34] <faina> natty doesn't need a ppa as its an official release...
[08:34] <nikhilm> THIS DIRECTORY HAS BEEN UNMOUNTED TO PROTECT YOUR DATA.
[08:34] <nikhilm> From the graphical desktop, click on:
[08:34] <nikhilm>  "Access Your Private Data"
[08:34] <nikhilm> or
[08:34] <nikhilm> From the command line, run:
[08:34] <FloodBot1> nikhilm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:35] <faina> Your other directory was encrypted, you 'll need to log in as that user to view the fieles
[08:35] <tensorpudding> oh, you did home directory encryption
[08:35] <nikhilm> yes
[08:35] <gogeta1> nikhilm: lol dont do that use pastbin
[08:35] <tensorpudding> you definitely can't touch it as your new user
[08:35] <nikhilm> i am sorry guys
[08:35] <nikhilm> i am also unable to login using a previous version
[08:36] <gogeta1> tensorpudding: he can but he needs to add the keys to his new account
[08:36] <eslam000> me too
[08:36] <nikhilm> gogetal: tell me how
[08:36] <tensorpudding> nikhilm: what's the error
[08:36] <gogeta1> nikhilm: just login as the old user if you lost the password you can reset it as sudo
[08:36] <wslayer> faina: i need a package i`m not finding in the official repo
[08:37] <nikhilm> it says untrusted application launcher
[08:37] <wslayer> faina: it`s nvidia-current-modaliases
[08:37] <nikhilm> and i think u guys are right in deducing that i encrypted my home directory
[08:37] <tensorpudding> wslayer: you should figure out if it's packaged somewhere
[08:37] <gogeta1> nikhilm: so ligin as the user that its ment for
[08:37] <nikhilm> ok
[08:38] <tensorpudding> wslayer: there are ppas which have some packages
[08:38] <nikhilm> thanks
[08:38] <JohnTeddy> I have a video m4v I took with my phone. I want to rotate it 90 degrees, make it not 120 megs (since it's only 2 minutes), say less than 30 megs.. and add a background audio... What is a simple app that can do this?
[08:38] <nikhilm> Thank you all
[08:38] <faina> wslayer, it looks like nvidia-current-modaliases isn't in 11.04
[08:38] <eslam000> .
[08:39] <faina> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia-current-modaliases
[08:39] <tensorpudding> JohnTeddy: what's the original resolution
[08:39] <faina> it was in lucid & maverick
[08:40] <JohnTeddy> tensorpudding: I don't know, whatever the phone has by defualt.
[08:40] <tensorpudding> widescreen video will probably not be amenable to rotating
[08:40] <tensorpudding> it'll stretch and distort
[08:41] <cordoval_> i am on ubuntu, my harddisk is not booting, I started again with a liveCD, how to check for hard disk and repair?
[08:41] <tensorpudding> unless it's letterboxed or something
[08:41] <tensorpudding> there's a few video editors
[08:41] <JohnTeddy> The phone is an HTC Desire HD
[08:41] <eslam000> -o
[08:42] <eslam000> 064706270649
[08:42] <cordoval_> i am on ubuntu, my harddisk is not booting, I started again with a liveCD, how to check for hard disk and repair? I remember a command but not sure fsck ?
[08:42] <faina> cordoval_, look at places menu to see if the live cd detected it, also try gparted to see if theres a drive with a partition table
[08:43] <cordoval_> places says ther e is a 742GB drive
[08:43] <cordoval_> so it is there faina I can see the information inside
[08:44] <faina> I think the live cd has a recover mode? I don't remember.
[08:44] <cordoval_> but how to fix it so that it can boot? hmm any command? gparted ?
[08:44] <cordoval_> this is an old 11.04 disk I think and it is 64 bit
[08:44] <cordoval_> hmm wonder if i can do it from the terminal now, from the live cd
[08:44] <faina> usually not being able to boot is something going wrong with grub
[08:45] <tensorpudding> JohnTeddy: judging from software center reviews and online, avidemux might be a good one
[08:45] <cordoval_> right, I select on grub the top ubuntu selection and then the locks light just turns on and off
[08:45] <faina> My sleep-deprived brain is remembering chroot /mount/point, & update-grub,
[08:45] <faina> you should look up syntax though
[08:47] <dmfn> 11.04 is a pain to recover grub because it uses grub2
[08:47] <cordoval_> that is to mount the disk but disk is already mounted
[08:47] <cordoval_> how to make sure grub is the problem?
[08:48] <faina> good question.
[08:49] <JohnTeddy> tensorpudding: It was widescreen.
[08:49] <faina> I remember in the past being able to boot from an installer cd and say actually boot from the hard disk
[08:49] <JohnTeddy> I just retook the video now.
[08:50] <cordoval_> hmmm
[08:51] <cordoval_> I am at least trying to save my files, so it seems it is more corruption of grup or some sectors but it can be fixed right?
[08:51] <cordoval_> else my disk is trash
[08:51] <wslayer> faina: what ubuntu version are you running?
[08:53] <wslayer> anyone running 11.04?
[08:53] <cordoval_> yes me
[08:53] <cordoval_> in both of my laptops
[08:53] <cordoval_> trying to recover one of them though
[08:53] <cordoval_> I am on the live cd and want to transfer files to my other laptop directly
[08:53] <cordoval_> have a hard disk external but not responding because of damages too
[08:53] <cordoval_> how to do it?
[08:54] <cordoval_> transfer some files from hard disk inside my laptop to my other good laptop
[08:55] <faina> wslayer, 11.04
[08:55] <faina> and 10.04 at work
[08:55] <wslayer> faina: uname -a says your kernel is generic?
[08:56] <faina> wslayer, yes " 2.6.38-8-generic "
[08:56] <wslayer> faina: hm...
[08:56] <faina> usually its generic or server
[08:56] <cordoval_> what does generic means?
[08:56] <cordoval_> what other options there are?
[08:56] <wslayer> faina: is your graphics card working fine?
[08:57] <faina> cordoval_ if you can't mount the broken disk, recovery will be much harder
[08:57] <faina> wslayer, yes although I'm using an intel card
[08:57] <cordoval_> faina: I already told you it mounted itself
[08:57] <cordoval_> it is working in that sense ok
[08:57] <wslayer> faina: it`s onboard?
[08:57] <cordoval_> however I am not sure how to transfer data
[08:57] <Senjai> Ubuntu wont use a second monitor connected via DVA, it detects it as unknown, but when i enable it i get an error message in the pop up area (like your volume control) that is cutoff and i cant read it
[08:57] <faina> cordoval_, I'm getting really tired and am not remembering stuff well
[08:57] <Senjai> Anyone have ideas
[08:57] <faina> wslayer, yes, laptop integrated chipset
[08:58] <Senjai> Connected VGA*
[08:58] <faina> wslayer, not sure about the current status of the nvidia/ati stuff
[08:58] <rusty149> cordoval_: Hi, what is your question?
[08:58] <cordoval_> hi rusty149
[08:58] <cordoval_> question is trying to recover a hard disk that will not boot but that it mounts ok on a live cd
[08:59] <cordoval_> on when I run off the live cd it shows it
[08:59] <cordoval_> and it auto mounts
[09:00] <rusty149> cordoval: OK, what do you see in attempt to boot from hard disk
[09:00] <faina> senjai, try looking for more monitor options in the system settings.
[09:00] <cordoval> well after the grub window which gives the ubuntu options I select any of them and it just says either nothing for normal or some error regarding the disk can't boot
[09:01] <cordoval> do you want the exact error?
[09:01] <cordoval> rusty149: but when I try the live cd i can see contents on the disk
[09:01] <rusty149> cordoval: Yes please
[09:01] <cordoval> ok will reboot now
[09:02] <gh00st> s
[09:02] <santhosh_> Hi can any one tel me the comand to give read right permission to disk
[09:02] <santhosh_> I am unable to save any ocument in the Hard disk
[09:02] <cordoval> rusty149:
[09:03] <cordoval> vfs: cannot open root device "UUID=.....
[09:03] <cordoval> or unknown block()0,0
[09:03] <alex421> hello, is anyone here aware of torrenting using an ipv6 ip address ? i have both, but i only appear as ipv4 as a seed. i'm wondering how can i set myself seeding as ipv6 on ubuntu.
[09:03] <cordoval> please aappend a correct "root=" boot option
[09:03] <cordoval> here are the available partitions
[09:03] <mecheese> hi
[09:04] <cordoval> kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown -block(0,0)
[09:04] <cordoval> Pid: 1, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.38-8 generic #42 ubuntu
[09:04] <cordoval> Call Trace:
[09:04] <cordoval> .....? panic+0x91/0x19c
[09:04] <cordoval> printtk+...
[09:04] <cordoval> mount block root
[09:04] <faina> cordoval the problem is the disk with your filesystem got renamed
[09:05] <rww> !pastebin | cordoval
[09:05] <cordoval> faina: !! the disk with my filesystem got renamed? what can I do rusty149
[09:05] <faina> cordoval, look at /dev/disk/by-uuid for the new uuid pointing at the disk you want to boot
[09:05] <cordoval> from the live cd right?
[09:05] <faina> yeah
[09:05] <cordoval> ok rebooting now
[09:06] <faina> well i should say the uuid doesn't match whats in your grub config
[09:06] <rww> !uuid
[09:06] <faina> is there a place that lists all those neat ! commands?
[09:07] <mecheese> my monitor says "signal out of range" how do I fix that?
[09:07] <dirtydawg> move it closer
[09:07] <rww> faina: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <faina> mecheese,  another useless answer, get a bigger monitor.
[09:07] <faina> mecheese, more usefully you need to lower the default resolution
[09:08] <faina> At least that's what I remember back when I used crt displays that gave me that error
[09:08] <cordoval> I wonder why my disk fs got renamed?
[09:08] <mecheese> dirtydawg faina: very funny
[09:08] <cordoval> is there something I did?
[09:08] <cordoval> It was working for days and then turned off to sleep then come back and bang
[09:08] <faina> cordoval, no idea at this point
[09:09] <cordoval> faina: but you are sure is that problem right?
[09:09] <cordoval> so there is a known solution
[09:09] <rusty149> cordoval: You should be able toremove the root=/dev/xxxx parameter on the grub config
[09:09] <mecheese> faina: I have an lcd. it's fairly large and high resolution. It's just not being detected and set up for my nvidia drivers.
[09:09] <cordoval> rusty149: from where or how?
[09:09] <cordoval> rusty149: booting now from the cd live disk
[09:09] <faina> well the error message you gave "UUID= not found" really strongly implies that the uuid listed in your kernel config line doesn't match one of the ones on your system
[09:10] <faina> mecheese, ok. you can muck with the current settings using xrandr
[09:10] <mecheese> faina is that in the terminal?
[09:10] <faina> yes
[09:11] <faina> if you need to log in from another system you might need to do DISPLAY=:0 xrandr
[09:11] <faina> to force xrandr to use the local X server
[09:11] <cordoval> live cd got stuck on clicking on try ubuntu button, should I wait or restart and try again?
[09:12] <mecheese> faina: will that work through the live cd to fix an install on hard disk?
[09:12] <NotTooDumb3> hi all  can anyone help me with my internet connection problem?
[09:12] <faina> Mecheese, no, xrandr's changes will be lost on reboot
[09:13] <wildbat> !anyone | NotTooDumb3
[09:13] <NotTooDumb3> ifup eth0 says eth0 already configured but ping google.com does not work..ping 127.0.0.1 pings fine..any help?
[09:14] <mecheese> faina: darn. do you know any settings that will fix x? my xorg.conf is empty of settings.
[09:14] <faina> cordoval, not sure... I'd wait a 30sec to 1min and reboot
[09:14] <rusty149> cordoval: Simplest solution, try sudo grub-mkconfig or sudo update-grub2
[09:14] <wildbat> NotTooDumb3:  Ping 8.8.8.8
[09:14] <faina> mecheese, yeah, they switched to auto-detecting everythign
[09:14] <cordoval> rusty149: thanks man a lot, yes that will be my first try after this boots
[09:15] <faina> you still can put specifics in the x config if you need to
[09:15] <NotTooDumb3> wildbat, what is 8.8.8.8?
[09:15] <rww> NotTooDumb3: Google's public DNS server
[09:15] <NotTooDumb3> ok..
[09:16] <Kolt> Hi! Has anybody run ubuntu on a sony vaio?
[09:16] <faina> Kolt, A really really long time ago.
[09:16] <mecheese> faina: it's funny. my monitor worked better with version 10.04. now 11.04 is not doing so good with it.
[09:16] <stephenh> hi, does anyone know how i can go about enabling javascript support in elinks?
[09:17] <Kolt> faina: Did you experience any problems?
[09:17] <michaelxq> how do i change login picture?
[09:17] <stephenh> i could recompile from source i guess, but are there packages out there to do it for me?
[09:17] <cordoval> rusty149: where are you from?
[09:17] <faina> Kolt, this was long enough ago that its not relavant to anything you own.
[09:17] <faina> (think 2001ish laptop)
[09:18] <cordoval> I have a friend named rusty too
[09:18] <Kolt> faina: Thank you anyway.
[09:18] <faina> mecheese, maybe boot into 10.04 and grab the x config? and see if you can merge some of its settings into 11.04?
[09:18] <rusty149> cordoval: England
[09:19] <faina> Kolt, there's a laptop testing page somewhere on the ubuntu wiki
[09:19] <cordoval> will try now sudo update-grub2
[09:19] <cordoval> the other did not work
[09:19] <NotTooDumb2> wildbat, 8.8.8.8 does not ping for me..any thoughts?
[09:19] <Kolt> faina: Ty. I'll look for it
[09:19] <cordoval> usrb/sbin/grup-probe: error: cannot stat 'aufs'
[09:19] <cordoval> rusty149: should I try the update command or work out this error?
[09:19] <faina> NotTooDumb2, if you do ifconfig eth0 does it have an IP address?
[09:20] <michaelxq> how do i change login picture?
[09:20] <mecheese> faina: that's an idea. I'm gonna try that now and see what kind of magic happens.
[09:20] <cordoval> sudo grub-mkconfig or sudo update-grub2
[09:20] <faina> I think by default ubuntu wants to do dhcp to assign an address, and you have to do something else to get PPPoE to work.
[09:20] <wildbat> NotTooDumb, can you ping your router?~ can you pastebin "ifconfig; tracepath -n 8.8.8.8;"
[09:20] <cordoval> both give the same error
[09:20] <rusty149> cordoval: I would just run the update first or reinstall grub from the live cd. Should be a catch all for any changes.
[09:21] <cordoval> rusty149: I did run both commands but I get /usr/bin/grup-probe: error: cannot stat 'aufs'
[09:22] <vayavya_> faina, eth0 does give some output like inet addr:124.125.46.131 Bcast: Mask:
[09:22] <vayavya_> i don't think it's giving ip address as such..what should i do?
[09:23] <VolodymyrB> Hi, I install google chrome, and how to run it?
[09:23] <faina> vayavya_ next, ip route
[09:23] <faina> can you ping your default route?
[09:23] <vayavya_> ip route? i do not what is my default route
[09:23] <faina> ip route is a config to type into the terminal
[09:23] <faina> er command
[09:23] <KoR66> ciao
[09:24] <vayavya_> faina, i could not completely follow infact sorry..what am i supposed to run?
[09:24] <vayavya_> ok 1 sec
[09:24] <vayavya_> i will comeback with ouptut
[09:24] <MoleMan> is there a command that will show me the same data as is displayed when I log onto ubuntu server? I know uptime will show me load etc, is there anything to show memory?
[09:26] <faina> MoleMan, cat /proc/meminfo? top?
[09:26] <NotTooDumb3> faina, ip route output is: 124.125.44.0/22 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 124.125.46.131 metric 1
[09:26] <NotTooDumb3> 169.254.0.0./16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000
[09:26] <cordoval> rusty149:  it seems like usr/sbin/grub-probe:%20error:%20cannot%20stat%20'aufs'
[09:26] <MoleMan> faina, thanks, that will do :)
[09:26] <cordoval> it is a bug
[09:27] <cordoval> tryng to google but nothing
[09:27] <NotTooDumb3> default via 124.125.44.1 dev eth0 proto static
[09:27] <michaelxq> how do i change login picture?
[09:27] <NotTooDumb3> faina, those 3 lines are the output of ip route
[09:27] <faina> NotTooDumb3, can you ping 124.125.44.1
[09:27] <cordoval> rusty149: I guess it says I need to chroot
[09:27] <NotTooDumb3> i will check
[09:27] <cordoval> I have done it once before but don't remember how to chroot
[09:28] <cordoval> anyone can refresh my memory please
[09:28] <faina> cordoval chroot /dir/name
[09:28] <rusty149> cordoval: Try reinstalling grub, mount the partition then, sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/path/to/mounted/partition /dev/sda
[09:28] <Raytoday> is this a repository https://launchpad.net/~philip/+archive/extra ? How to format the line correctly to add it repositories list
[09:28] <rusty149> cordoval: You don't need to chroot
[09:28] <cordoval> oh ok
[09:28] <cordoval> rusty149: will try your command above
[09:28] <magn3ts> faina, I just got done talking with him
[09:28] <NotTooDumb2> faina, yes i can ping 124.125.44.1
[09:28] <magn3ts> faina, I think I'm a sucker.
[09:29] <faina> magn3ts? wait you're still around?
[09:29] <faina> wow
[09:29] <faina> that was a long time in a PM
[09:29] <rusty149> cordoval: yes that is 2 dashes before boot-directory
[09:30] <faina> NotTooDumb2 next try traceroute 8.8.8.8
[09:30] <rww> Raytoday: That address doesn't point to anything. As far as I can tell, user ~philip has no PPA.
[09:30] <faina> or maybe traceroute6 8.8.8.8
[09:30] <rusty149> cordoval: And of coarse if the hard disk is not on sda then change that bit
[09:31] <cordoval> oh no
[09:31] <cordoval> just ran the command
[09:31] <cordoval> I did
[09:31] <faina> NotTooDumb, actually the command is "tracepath 74.125.224.80"
[09:31] <magn3ts> faina, yeah.
[09:31] <faina> (the ip is a random, google.com address)
[09:31] <vayavya_> faina, traceroute is not installed in my os and right now can't get internet to install it..what can i do?
[09:31] <cordoval> rusty149: sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/media/8... /dev/sda
[09:32] <rww> Raytoday: (I don't do support in PM.) Perhaps you mean https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/extra ?
[09:32] <cordoval> Installation finished. No error reported.
[09:32] <cordoval> rusty149: now just reboot and try if it works?
[09:32] <rww> Raytoday: if so, that page has instructions for adding it to your software sources.
[09:32] <rusty149> cordoval: Run sudo update-grub2 then reboot
[09:32] <faina> magn3ts, he tried PMing me a bit, but after he tried to get me to re-assure him that running a windows cracking program was safe I said. "1) no to illegal stuff, and 2) you can never be sure that cracks are safe"
[09:32] <faina> and then left
[09:33] <cordoval> I have sda sda1 sda2 sda5 sbd sbd1 sdc
[09:33] <cordoval> rusty149: oh ok
[09:33] <cordoval> will do that now
[09:33] <ehsan> hello every one
[09:33] <faina> vayavya I didn't remember the command, I tested with tracepath on my recently isntalled 11.04 system
[09:33] <vayavya_> faina, any suggestions for me?
[09:33] <ehsan> I have encountered a problem in kile
[09:33] <ehsan> Latex editor
[09:33] <vayavya_> yep tracepath seem to be installed in my system too
[09:33] <ehsan> there is maybe some configuration problems in setting
[09:33] <mecheese> faina hi again. i can't fix my monitor because ther's no xorg.conf file
[09:34] <ehsan> actually I am new to kile in ubuntu 10...
[09:34] <ehsan> version
[09:34] <ehsan> I have another host
[09:34] <faina> mecheese, I'm stumped
[09:34] <cordoval> rusty149: if I run the command sudo update-grub I get the /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: ...cannot stat 0aufs0
[09:34] <ehsan> which I can run it with about any problem
[09:34] <ehsan> any one can help me plz
[09:34] <cordoval> I guess I have to chroot in order to do the update-grub
[09:35] <cordoval> unless the update-grub also take another directory parameter on the cli
[09:35] <cordoval> would it?
[09:35] <cordoval> it will not take the argument
[09:35] <mecheese> faina: i have read that the x configurations are in the server now. that's a problem. no easy way to reconfigure.
[09:35] <cordoval> so I guess I do have to chroot
[09:35] <cordoval> now trying to see the logs here on how it was
[09:36] <rusty149> cordoval: No, that is what the --boot-directory is for
[09:36] <mecheese> faina: it's the nvidia drivers. before I installed that my monitor worked fine.
[09:36] <rusty149> cordoval: What version of grub are you running, sudo grub-install -v
[09:36] <faina> mecheese, ah ok. there is a nvidia config tool?
[09:36] <cordoval> rusty149: 1.99-rc1-13ubuntu3
[09:37] <cordoval> rusty149: I tried --help and did not see the option
[09:37] <faina> mecheese I'd search for  nvidia on the ubuntu wiki.
[09:37] <faina> Also I need to sleep, good night and good luck
[09:37] <cordoval> but so I will try not the --boot-directory option anyways
[09:38] <mecheese> faina: but how would I get to it if I can't see it in my monitor?
[09:38] <cordoval> rusty149: no just tried, it would not take --boot-directory=/media/..
[09:39] <cordoval> now I guess i have to chroot
[09:39] <cordoval> and run the update-grub2
[09:39] <cordoval> rusty149: right?
[09:39] <rusty149> cordoval: You are losing me. What do you mean it would not take --boot-directory
[09:40] <cordoval> rusty149: that when I run the command sudo update-grub2 --boot-directory=/media/8....9 that it will fail
[09:40] <JDuke128> hi , what is fade in and fade out ? fade in comes from 0 to 100 opacity ?
[09:41] <rusty149> cordoval: You don't need it for that. Have you tried rebooting yet?
[09:41] <cordoval> rusty149: no
[09:41] <cordoval> i guess i will try
[09:41] <cordoval> sorry
[09:42] <cordoval> rusty149: rebooting now...
[09:42] <NotTooDumb3> faina, i gave tracepath 8.8.8.8
[09:42] <rusty149> cordoval: If I don't respond I am looking into the aufs error
[09:42] <cordoval> rusty149: ok thanks a lot man, I really appreciate it
[09:42] <cordoval> oh
[09:42] <cordoval> wait now I get a grub window
[09:42] <cordoval> it says GNU GRUB version 1.99...
[09:42] <NotTooDumb3> it seem to be working, it gives 1. username-Lenovo-G460    0.169ms pmtu 1400
[09:42] <cordoval> Minimal bash-like line editing is supported
[09:43] <NotTooDumb3> 2. 10.9.240.80 135.821ms
[09:43] <wildbat> !pb|NotTooDumb3
[09:43] <cordoval> rusty149: what do I type on this window?
[09:43] <cordoval> I am stuck
[09:43] <mecheese> NotTooDumb3 faina has signed out
[09:44] <NotTooDumb3> 3. 10.9.240.80 136.656ms and no reply continues...does this give us any clue?
[09:44] <cordoval> rusty149: the commands are so long
[09:44] <rusty149> cordoval: Are you at a grub command line?
[09:44] <cordoval> rusty149: yes
[09:44] <NotTooDumb3> mecheese, can you help me in getting internet working on ubuntu?
[09:44] <cordoval> after rebooting
[09:44] <cordoval> rusty149: do you want me to type the commands so that you can see?
[09:44] <cordoval> there is a hello command
[09:45] <cordoval> and another one is cpuid
[09:45] <cordoval> oh there is one called boot
[09:45] <cordoval> but wonder which one should I try and with which arguments
[09:45] <cordoval> rusty149: there is also a command continue
[09:46] <rusty149> try boot
[09:46] <cordoval> hmm, hard to come up with the meaning of these
[09:46] <cordoval> ok
[09:46] <cordoval> rusty149:  it says error: no loaded kernel.
[09:46] <NotTooDumb3> any help for getting internet working on linux, ubuntu10.10? it works on windows
[09:46] <cordoval> there is echo, dump, date, cutmem, crc, cat, clear, break, blocklist
[09:46] <mecheese> NotTooDumb: I don't think so. mine has always worked right off. I've never had to fix it. there should be an icon in the upper right of the screen somewhere that you can click and choose autoeth0 to connect.
[09:47] <rusty149> set root(hd0,1)
[09:47] <rusty149> linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro
[09:47] <rusty149> initrd /initrd.img
[09:47] <mecheese> NotTooDumb3: if that doesn't work you problem might be a little too much for me.
[09:47] <rusty149> boot
[09:47] <cordoval> rusty149: set root(hd0,1) gave error: not an assignment
[09:48] <cordoval> maybe list blocks?
[09:48] <xharx> how can i edit menu entries in xubuntu
[09:48] <mecheese> NotTooDumb3 clicking on aut0 should just find the right parameters for internet automatically
[09:49] <Mike1> well, maybe NotTooDumb3 is directly connected to a modem, thus has to set up PPP connection etc.
[09:49] <wildbat> NotTooDumb3: looks more like you have a router issue as the router did route the packet out or firewalled you.
[09:49] <Mike1> mecheese: only if he has a router which does all the authorization stuff
[09:49] <Mike1> maybe he’s only missing the correct DNS …
[09:49] <Mike1> weee neeed moar informatiunz
[09:50] <mecheese> Mike1: ah. I wasn't here for his explaination of his problem
[09:50] <cordoval> rusty149:  set root(hd0,1) --> did not work
[09:50] <Mike1> me neither
[09:50] <cordoval> linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro 03:47:22 AM
[09:50] <cordoval> initrd /initrd.img
[09:50] <cordoval> I think it is not root but boot
[09:50] <mecheese> Mike1: i did have a problem like that back with 8.04 ubuntu
[09:51] <cordoval> rusty149:  set boot(hd0,1)
[09:51] <cordoval> linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro 03:47:22 AM
[09:51] <cordoval> initrd /initrd.img
[09:51] <cordoval> should I try?
[09:51] <FloodBot1> cordoval: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:51] <cordoval> rusty149: same error with boot
[09:51] <Mike1> mecheese: looks like his connection is going crazy :D
[09:51] <cordoval> hmm
[09:51] <cordoval> which url are you looking at rusty149 so I can follow too?
[09:52] <Gryllida> Oh my. WillPittenger.
[09:52] <mecheese> Mike1: off on off on off on. his ethernet doesn't know what it wants
[09:53] <WillPittenger> Hello Gryllida.  You male or female today?
[09:53] <rusty149> cordoval: Try linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro
[09:53] <rusty149>  initrd /initrd.img
[09:53] <rusty149> boot
[09:53] <JDuke128> hi , what is fade in and fade out ? fade in comes from 0 to 100 opacity ?
[09:53] <mecheese> my monitor is screwed up. ubuntu 11.04
[09:53] <cordoval> set root(hd0,1) --> did not work
[09:53] <cordoval> linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro 03:47:22 AM --> did work
[09:53] <cordoval> initrd /initrd.img --> did work
[09:53] <cordoval> rebooting now rusty149
[09:53] <FloodBot1> cordoval: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:53] <Mike1> JDuke128: I’ve heard those terms for audio too
[09:53] <JDuke128> ok so whats fade in and fade out ?
[09:54] <cordoval> rusty149: again back to the GRUB console CLI
[09:54] <cordoval> should I give continue?
[09:54] <rusty149> try boot first
[09:54] <cordoval> I did, it said no kernel loaded
[09:54] <mecheese> how does one stop "signal out of range" for a monitor
[09:54] <mecheese> so I can see something with it
[09:55] <cordoval> since I am in grub now I guess this does mean that disk is working right? we just need to find a way to set the grub properly
[09:55] <WillPittenger> How do I set the password for the root account?  su doesn't work as I don't know the password.  Just pressing enter as the password prompt didn't work.
[09:55] <mecheese> the config is in the kernel. I know that. what can be done?
[09:55] <Mike1> JDuke128: I’d say fade in is from nothing to full
[09:55] <rusty149> Yes, you need to boot into it then run update-grub2
[09:56] <Mike1> JDuke128: and fade out is from full to nothing
[09:56] <cordoval> rusty149: I need to boot into ubuntu but it is not letting me in
[09:57] <cordoval> hmm, wonder what command to type in the GRUB CLI or why the set root(hd01,0) is not working
[09:58] <cordoval> set root(hd0,1) --> did not work error: not an assignment
[09:58] <cordoval> hmm
[09:58] <wildbat> cordoval: grub1.99? you need to set root=(hd0,msdos1)
[09:58] <cordoval> oh
[09:58] <wildbat> cordoval: try tab in bash
[09:58] <mecheese> my monitor is sad. won't you help it?
[09:58] <wildbat> cordoval: in the grub> i mean ;p
[09:58] <cordoval> wildbat: yes it gives me the commands
[09:58] <cordoval> wildbat: yes I will now run you set command
[09:59] <cordoval> rusty149: the wildbat command now worked
[10:00] <rusty149> cordoval: If that set doesn't work an alternative is, root hd0 1
[10:00] <rusty149> cordoval: OK
[10:00] <cordoval> now i guess need to run the other two commands
[10:00] <cordoval> linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro 03:47:22 AM --> did work
[10:00] <rusty149> cordoval: Yes linux and initrd command then boot
[10:00] <cordoval> initrd /initrd.img --> did work
[10:00] <mecheese> I'm not the smartest ubuntu user in the world. I need to figure out how to fix my nvidia settings so I can see something in my monitor.
[10:01] <cordoval> ok rebooting ...
[10:01] <cordoval> back to the CLI gRUP
[10:01] <cordoval> GRUB
[10:01] <cordoval> boot I guess?
[10:01] <cordoval> gah no, it gives same error
[10:01] <cordoval> error: no loaded kernel
[10:02] <wildbat> mecheese: idk ~ my nvidia works just fine ~ may be reinstall the nvidia
[10:02] <cordoval> wildbat: it did not work, rusty149: :'( come on we can do this guys
[10:03] <mecheese> wildbat: I can't see any graphics in my screen.
[10:03] <cordoval> rusty149: the alternative you said
[10:03] <dr_willis> mecheese:  does the gdm login screen work? what do you see exactly on the screen?
[10:03] <rusty149> cordoval: root hd0 1
[10:03] <cordoval> was issueing "root hd0 1"
[10:03] <cordoval> oh ok
[10:03] <cordoval> just like that
[10:03] <cordoval> or set root hd0 1
[10:03] <mecheese> dr_willis: i see "signal is out of range"
[10:03] <rusty149> cordoval: no just, root hd0 1
[10:04] <cordoval> rusty149: unknown command
[10:04] <dr_willis> mecheese:  thats due i think to the GRUB menu defaulting to a range that the monitor cant display.   does the system wait for a bit.. then start to boot up?
[10:05] <cordoval> hmm, what else I can try?
[10:05] <cordoval> on GRUB CLI now
[10:05] <wildbat> cordoval: shouldn't you load kernel in /boot?
[10:05] <mecheese> dr_willis: I have a large lcd monitor with a very high resolution. the system boots right away. I hear boot sounds.
[10:05] <cordoval> wildbat: how to do that?
[10:06] <dr_willis> mecheese:  so its a grub using some mode the monitor dose not like issue. You can tweak the settings for that in /etc/default/grub
[10:06] <dr_willis> mecheese:  ive had to uncomment the following line --->  GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480
[10:06] <mecheese> dr_willis: i'll try that
[10:06] <dr_willis> mecheese:  that gave it a rather simple text grub menu
[10:07] <dr_willis> mecheese:  and  GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[10:07] <cordoval> wildbat: do you mean set boot(hd1,0)
[10:07] <cordoval> ?
[10:07] <rusty149> cordoval: linux  (hd0,1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1
[10:07] <wildbat> cordoval: linux	/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.xxxxxx-generic root=/dev/sda1 ro single
[10:07] <wildbat> where xxxxxx is the kernel version you can use <tab> you find the file after you set root=(hd0, msdos1)
[10:10] <Gerda> am i on finally
[10:10] <mecheese> dr_willis: how do I use grub to make graphics for x to work?
[10:13] <mecheese> dr_willis: how do I use grub?
[10:13] <mecheese> and also. is your first name bruce?
[10:15] <WillPittenger> I am thinking of getting rid of Unity.  It seems to be nothing more than a poorly thought out clone of the Mac desktop.  But when I logged into Ubuntu Classic, I don't see any panels.  Where are they?  How do I get them back?
[10:15] <MoleMan> quick refresher please: command to create symlink?
[10:16] <solid_liq> MoleMan, ln -s
[10:16] <mecheese> grub how do use?
[10:16] <MoleMan> thanks
[10:17] <solid_liq> MoleMan, don't dcc me!
[10:17] <MoleMan> sorry, hit wrong button
[10:17] <MoleMan> i cancelled it...
[10:18] <mecheese> the gods of linux are laughing at my ignorance
[10:18] <markskilbeck> Hi, all. I have ubuntu server on a VPS, version 8.04. I'm trying to update to a newer version. I believe I'm supposed to use apt-get dist-upgrade, however it doesn't do anything. Any ideas?
[10:19] <dr_willis> mecheese:  grub basically has nothing to do with X graphcs.
[10:19] <dr_willis> mecheese:  other then its job to pass options to the system at boot time.
[10:20] <mecheese> dr_willis: it's the x graphics I need though.
[10:20] <dr_willis> mecheese:  you had no grub menu. due to it being 'out of range'  do you now see a grub menu when you boot?
[10:20] <minimec> mecheese: Grub can be a tricky thing... Don't mess around with it, if you don't know what you do. For a graphical boot process (framebuffer) yiu can try to activate (-#) the line GRUB_GFXMODE=XY in /etc/default/grub... But this has nothing to do with a graphical user interface.
[10:20] <astraljava> markskilbeck: Does 8.04 already have `do-release-upgrade`? If not, you need to modify /etc/apt/sources.list to a newer release, then do `sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[10:21] <markskilbeck> astraljava: thanks. I'll take a look.
[10:21] <mecheese> minimec: my graphics worked in classic mode. when I switched to regular and had nvidia drivers installed that's when it messed up.
[10:21] <dr_willis> mecheese:  heres my default /etc/default/grub that gives a rather basic (and always seems to work reguardless of the monitor) grub menu screen --> $ pastebinit /etc/default/grub
[10:21] <dr_willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/637424/
[10:22] <dr_willis> mecheese:  so you do or do NOT have a grub menu then? does the GDM login screen work?
[10:23] <mecheese> dr_willis: don't know. I'm talking on chat and haven't rebooted.
[10:23] <minimec> mecheese: So you rather have a nVidia/xorg problem and not a grub problem...
[10:23] <dr_willis> if the grub menu is hidden by default use the 'shift' key to make it show.. but that wont help if grub is not showng a proper display for the monitor
[10:23] <mecheese> dr_willis: I know the lower graphics screen will work. it's just I can't have video.
[10:24] <dr_willis> mecheese:  if grub is working properly, you can try the 'text' mode and attempt tofix  X from there
[10:24] <dr_willis> !text
[10:24] <mecheese> minimec: yes
[10:24] <dr_willis> You can even IRC from teh console with the weechat, or irssi IRC clients
[10:24] <Gryllida> Telnet :-)
[10:25] <dr_willis> dont make me slap you with kermit Gryllida  :)
[10:25] <mecheese> dr_willis: I can't fix x because ubuntu 11.04 has the config in the kernel. unless there is something I don't know
[10:25] <dr_willis> mecheese:  'config in the kernel' makes no snce to me at all.. Not sure what you are refering to.
[10:26] <mecheese> dr_willis: or controls for monitor detection are in the kernel. I read something to that effect.
[10:26] <solid_liq> dr_willis, hey doc, my tooth hurts when I use Windows...  what's wrong?
[10:26] <dr_willis> mecheese:  i think you miss-read..
[10:27] <dr_willis> mecheese:  X auto configures for themost part.. but if an xorg.conf exits it is used.
[10:27] <dr_willis> the nvidia-settings program can generate a xorg.conf
[10:27] <masterofpuppetss> hi
[10:27] <masterofpuppetss> would any1 be willing to compile a kernel for me
[10:27] <masterofpuppetss> i lack the tools and knowledge
[10:27] <dr_willis> masterofpuppetss:  we would have to wonder why you need such a task done.
[10:28] <masterofpuppetss> because i only need a kernel that can perform disk backup using dd... no need for anything else like network etc
[10:28] <WillPittenger> I am thinking of getting rid of Unity.  It seems to be nothing more than a poorly thought out clone of the Mac desktop.  But when I logged into Ubuntu Classic, I don't see any panels.  Where are they?  How do I get them back?
[10:28] <masterofpuppetss> should be able load up in 2 seconds or so
[10:28] <dr_willis> masterofpuppetss:  and why is it that critical?
[10:28] <mecheese> dr_willis: I read something. there is not even xorg.conf in my install. I read that the x controls for something were in the kernel to enable something for unity. I'm paraphrasing of course.
[10:29] <masterofpuppetss> well, its not critical but little is in life
[10:29] <masterofpuppetss> i just want a tool that fits the job
[10:29] <dr_willis> mecheese:  nvidia-settings tool canmake an xorg.conf. you dont 'need' one. My xorg.conf for my nvidia systems just turn off the splash screen.
[10:29] <dr_willis> masterofpuppetss:  if you need a tiny linux disrto to do system rescues.. try 'tiny core linux'
[10:29] <masterofpuppetss> plug in, syslinux boots a bare bones kernel, backup done
[10:30] <dr_willis> tiny core linux = 10mb for a decently features system.
[10:30] <masterofpuppetss> im aware of microcore
[10:30] <masterofpuppetss> it can't even do loop commands
[10:30] <minimec> mecheese: Did you install the 'recommended' nVidia driver. I had three options for my GeForce 7600GS.
[10:30] <dr_willis> loop commands in what? bash? You did install bash on it?
[10:30] <masterofpuppetss> it comes with bash i assume
[10:30] <dr_willis> masterofpuppetss:  it does not last i looked.
[10:30] <masterofpuppetss> hmm
[10:30] <dr_willis> busybox sh.
[10:31] <masterofpuppetss> so bsah is an extension for it
[10:31] <masterofpuppetss> bash*
[10:31] <dr_willis> everything is an extension for  that micro disrto. thats how it works basically
[10:31] <mecheese> minimec: yes i did. wait. I didn't even see what it was because it was installed when I installed ubuntu
[10:31] <masterofpuppetss> well, dd works on it out of the box i tried
[10:31] <masterofpuppetss> managed to clone a drive
[10:31] <masterofpuppetss> so that must be built in to the kernel
[10:32] <dr_willis> it was using the busybox version of dd i imagine also.
[10:32] <mecheese> minimec: I did an upgrade earlier and that's when I chose 'recommeded'. that messed it up so I just reinstall and it still messed up.
[10:32] <masterofpuppetss> anything wrong with that version?
[10:32] <minimec> mecheese: Run 'Additional Drivers' from the <System <Administration menu...
[10:32] <markskilbeck> Hm. I've lost the ability to use arrows to move through my command history, also tab completion, when I connect to my VPS.
[10:32] <mecheese> minimec: how?
[10:32] <markskilbeck> I get stuff like '^[[A'
[10:33] <dr_willis> markskilbeck:  the vps is proberly not set to run the bash completion commands, or is not using bash when you login.
[10:33] <mecheese> minimec: can I do that with a virtual ubuntu?
[10:33] <dr_willis> markskilbeck:  check the out put of   echo $SHELL
[10:33] <minimec> mecheese: You have no gui right now? ok...
[10:34] <mecheese> I have a virtual one. not one for hd install.
[10:34] <mecheese> minimec: that's the whole problem. no graphics at all.
[10:34] <minimec> mecheese: In a console sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Maybe that gives you a (basic) working graphics.
[10:35] <markskilbeck> dr_willis: /bin/sh
[10:35] <dr_willis> markskilbeck:  there ya go.. you are using sh and not bash
[10:35] <markskilbeck> It happened after I ran apt-get dist-upgrade, and that updated some dash program
[10:35] <markskilbeck> I see
[10:35] <dr_willis> dash is the  'sh' ubuntu uses.. dash is not bash
[10:36] <masterofpuppetss> anyone know how i can add bash as an extension to microcore
[10:36] <dr_willis> sh is the default shell for system scripts and so forth. its 'quick and simple'
[10:36] <masterofpuppetss> their irc channel is dead
[10:36] <dr_willis> masterofpuppetss:  install  the bash package on it.. read their docs.
[10:36] <dr_willis> why use microcore when tinycore is only 10mb
[10:36] <markskilbeck> dr_willis: how do I revert to bash?
[10:36] <markskilbeck> set $SHELL?
[10:36] <masterofpuppetss> why use a gui for running a simple dd backup command
[10:36] <dr_willis> markskilbeck:  chsh command perhaps.
[10:37] <dr_willis> masterofpuppetss: becuase it keeps you from having to figure out how to use the microvariant..
[10:37] <mecheese> minimec: ok. I push esc to get to the consol at boot right?
[10:37] <voidr> Hello, does the current window manager have a command line inteface or some really easy python/wathever interface? I want to write a small script that raises a minized window
[10:38] <masterofpuppetss> its preety rediculous that dont come with bash, bash is used with great frequency
[10:38] <dr_willis> masterofpuppetss:  whatever..  they call it microcore and tiny core for a reason.
[10:39] <mecheese> voidr: there is a console for python you can download in synaptic I think.
[10:39] <minimec> mecheese: left <shift> key...
[10:39] <robin0800> mecheese: only shift now I belive
[10:39] <WillPittenger> I am thinking of getting rid of Unity.  It seems to be nothing more than a poorly thought out clone of the Mac desktop.  But when I logged into Ubuntu Classic, I don't see any panels.  Where are they?  How do I get them back?
[10:39] <masterofpuppetss> well i dont need that small
[10:39] <masterofpuppetss> is puppylinux have a cli version?
[10:40] <mecheese> ok. off to press shift.
[10:40] <dr_willis> masterofpuppetss:  proberly does.. or can boot to the console.. ask in #puppylinux
[10:41] <robin0800> WillPittenger: killall gnome-panel
[10:41] <dr_willis> theres ubuntu console rescue type live cds out there also.
[10:42] <dr_willis> I dont find unity a clone of the mac desktop at all.. but i do have gfx issues withit - that make it totally unuseable.
[10:42] <voidr> yeah mecheese I anticipated that but for starters I don't know what's the current window manager called
[10:42] <dr_willis> ive gotten where im using lxde/lubuntu + avant window navigator for now.
[10:44] <WillPittenger> robin0800: gnome-panel: no process found
[10:44] <VolodymyrB> when I "ls -i" dir i see list of files "2123 ChicagoBoss-0.5.4.tar.gz" is 2123 id? can I use it instead long file name?
[10:45] <robin0800> WillPittenger: perhaps not installed?
[10:46] <asdjaputra> GNOME or Unity or KDE?
[10:46] <robin0800> WillPittenger: or try just gnome-panel
[10:47] <llutz> VolodymyrB: 2123 is the inode-entry of that file, not an id
[10:47] <WillPittenger> robin0800: That was it.  Not installed.
[10:47] <meomic> hey guys, does anyone else have a problem when you unplug usb disk the whole pc is hanged? the capslock control(led) is blinking - - need to hold power button and take the pc down(reboot)
[10:48] <meomic> is the bug known? i have ubuntu 11.04 x86-64bit
[10:48] <dr_willis> meomic:  you are unmounting it befor unplugging it?
[10:48] <meomic> yes
[10:48] <asdjaputra> meomic, that's a kernel panic
[10:48] <asdjaputra> FYI
[10:48] <dr_willis> meomic:  first ive heard of the issue
[10:49] <VolodymyrB> llutz: can i access file via inode-entry?
[10:49] <llutz> VolodymyrB: using debugfs, you might be able
[10:50] <xuser1> hi
[10:50] <meomic> it hang even if i dont unmount the drive first but i have bigger change that it will be working, so (unmount first , unplug = 33%? change = hang, not unmount just unplug = 10-20% hang)
[10:50] <meomic> change=chance
[10:50] <VolodymyrB> llutz: thanks
[10:50] <xuser1> i have the same problem with x server the GUI interface no start after remove nvidia driver
[10:50] <meomic> its an ntfs usb drive
[10:51] <xuser1> i installed nvidia-current from text mode but not work
[10:51] <dr_willis> meomic:  if you can ssh in, and monitor the dmesg logs as it hangs..it might give a clue
[10:51] <meomic> also ive tried it with 2 uswb drives already (both ntfs), my laptop is thinkpad r61, dr_willis: after it hang i cant ssh it - it does not work anymore
[10:52] <xuser1> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/fotografie0800.jpg/ any ideas / im on love cd now?
[10:53] <xuser1> :)
[10:54] <asdjaputra> love cd lol
[10:55] <xuser1> any ideas please
[10:56] <asdjaputra> 400 Bad Request
[10:56] <xuser1> ?\
[10:56] <vivian> i come from china.i want to find a friend from english speaking country
[10:57] <asdjaputra> startx
[10:57] <asdjaputra> ni hao
[10:57] <Abhijit> vivian, #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:57] <meomic> also those usb drives worked on buntu 10.10 - same machine - nnever crashed and i have almost always something plugged in - usb drive
[10:57] <vivian> ni hao
[10:57] <vivian> what is your msn
[10:57] <oCean> vivian: this channel is for ubuntu support only. Try #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[10:57] <asdjaputra> well, i'm not from an english speaking country
[10:58] <vivian> sorry
[10:59] <meomic> any idea how can i help debug it - i cant live with it - crashing my pc so often (even im thinking about buying new harddrive - so i wont need nay usb drives lol)
[10:59] <xuser1> can you help me please i installed the driver nvidia-current from text mode but dont work ?
[11:00] <iridium> asdjaputra, which is your country? there are a lot of regional channels, like #ubuntu-de for german #ubuntu-cn for chinese, you might want try one of these also
[11:01] <asdjaputra> iridium, what's wrong with me? lol
[11:01] <KaZ-> indeed
[11:01] <xuser1> :-(
[11:02] <iridium> asdjaputra, nothing, but since you told that your are not from english spoken country...
[11:02] <asdjaputra> iridium, well i speak english
[11:02] <iridium> your english is good
[11:02] <iridium> was only suggesting
[11:02] <iridium> :)
[11:03] <asdjaputra> heh, no one's there
[11:03] <asdjaputra> #ubuntu-id
[11:03] <oCean> now that we've settled that ^ let's get back on topic, ok?
[11:03] <iridium> ok oCean
[11:03] <xuser1> can you help me?
[11:03] <masterofpuppetss> just out of curiosity, how long does it take one of you linux maestros to compile a custom kernel
[11:04] <asdjaputra> yes Alex
[11:04] <oCean> masterofpuppetss: better try ##linux, this is ubuntu specific support
[11:04] <asdjaputra> oCean, he uses Ubuntu though
[11:04] <dr_willi1> !kernel
[11:04] <dr_willi1> depends on the system as to how fast it can compile.
[11:05] <masterofpuppetss> i just want a kernel with bash and tinybox.... nothing else
[11:05] <masterofpuppetss> well and it has to detect plugged in devices
[11:05] <masterofpuppetss> like hdd, usb etc
[11:06] <dr_willi1> masterofpuppetss:  you mean 'busybox' ?  those are not part of the kernel. they are part of the operating system
[11:06] <masterofpuppetss> umm yea busybox
[11:06] <oCean> masterofpuppetss: the ubuntu repositories provide already-compiled kernels. We don't support building your own
[11:06] <dr_willi1> You could make a kernel and an initrd (initial ramdisk) i imagine.
[11:06] <dr_willi1> but that really dosent mean you need to 'compile' the kernel.
[11:07] <masterofpuppetss> well even busybox i can do wtihout if i can have a kernel with dd built in
[11:07] <masterofpuppetss> probably it need only be 3mb big
[11:08] <masterofpuppetss> any1 have a good link for doing the kernel compile plus ramdisk
[11:08] <dr_willi1> you dont put 'dd' in the kernel..
[11:08] <masterofpuppetss> so where does it come from
[11:08] <dr_willi1> it would be part of the os the kernel loads.
[11:08] <aureianimus> just being nosy, but is there any particular reason you'd like that for?
[11:08] <dr_willi1> !initrd
[11:09] <masterofpuppetss> aurianimus i just i want something i can plug in and have it backup drives
[11:09] <masterofpuppetss> so i only really need dd
[11:09] <masterofpuppetss> and a startup script
[11:09] <oCean> masterofpuppetss: you're just being silly now. Such capabilities have nothing to do with the kernel
[11:10] <xuser1>  i have the same problem with x server the GUI interface no start after remove nvidia driver
[11:10] <extor> dd is horribly inefficient
[11:10] <masterofpuppetss> fdisk betteR?
[11:10] <Zpix> hi all
[11:10] <extor> rsync
[11:10] <oCean> masterofpuppetss: can you ask a real question?
[11:10] <Zpix> is there anyway to add a menu to home folder in unity luncher>/
[11:10]  * extor isnt sure he is in the correct discussion
[11:10] <erwacke> hi all
[11:11] <masterofpuppetss> !ops
[11:11] <oCean> masterofpuppetss: yes, what is it?
[11:11] <masterofpuppetss> your trolling me
[11:11] <dr_willi1> theres many cases where ubuntu  dosent boot properly and goes to the 'busybox shell' that  is about as minimal an os as you can get. Kernel + busybox
[11:11] <oCean> masterofpuppetss: don't abuse that ops trigger again
[11:11] <oCean> masterofpuppetss: no I am not. I am asking you what your real question is.
[11:11] <oCean> masterofpuppetss: I also told you that this is ubuntu specific channel
[11:12] <xuser1> do you wanna help me?
[11:12] <masterofpuppetss> yea its all i need, kernel + busybox + bash
[11:12] <masterofpuppetss> oCean ok
[11:12] <penlat> I have setup a moodle server. When I host a flash application will that stress the server or my laptop?
[11:12] <Zpix> any body knows about adding a menu to home folder in unity luncher?
[11:13] <masterofpuppetss> dr_willi1 i rekon tinycore doesn't suit my needs
[11:14] <dr_willi1> masterofpuppetss:  i dont know why it dosent.. you can set that up  rther easially on a flash drive.
[11:15] <meomic> so according to that usb unplug causing kernel panic - where i can talk with somebody who can fix it (when i provide him all he needs?)?
[11:16] <dr_willi1> meomic:  somthing that deep. may be a kernel type bug report. You may want to check the ubuntu forums. the bug reports. and perhaps even mention it on askubuntu.com
[11:16] <dr_willi1> Zpix:  ive seen some tweaks similer to that mentioned onthe webupd8 blog site.
[11:17] <meomic> dr_willi1: ok thank you alot for the info
[11:17] <Zpix> dr_willi1: aha thank you i will check it
[11:17] <dr_willi1> Zpix:  i recall some tweak to put a 'places
[11:17] <dr_willi1>  type menu on the  buttons at the left in the panel.
[11:18] <dr_willi1> Zpix:  i just use a extra tool that gives me a normal ubuntu-gnome menu on the panel. :)
[11:18] <Zpix> dr_willi1: and whats that tool?
[11:19] <dr_willi1> cardpio i think.. its bookmarked at my  http://delicious.com/dr_willis site
[11:19] <blitz> would any of you wonderful people know of anything i can use to fix my windows mbr and retain the use of grub?
[11:21] <dr_willi1> then theres is a indicator applet that does a similer thing
[11:21] <dr_willi1> that indicator appletis handy for other windowmangers as well. :) gives me a normal gnomemenu in  lubuntu, or xfce, or whatever wm canhave a 'system tray'
[11:21] <Stefanos90> hello, i have installed XAMPP, what is the folder I have to put my site?
[11:25] <dr_willi1> !lamp
[11:26] <dr_willi1> !xamp
[11:26] <asdjaputra> woops
[11:26] <asdjaputra> lol
[11:26] <dr_willi1> I dont evne know how xampp and lampp differs
[11:26] <asdjaputra> !xampp
[11:26] <PandoraGaming> question i downloaded kubuntu and the whole desktop was weird it didn't even look like kde what is that god ugly thing? Is there a way to get the real origional kde back
[11:26] <blitz> im pretty sure xampp is more updated than lamp
[11:27] <dr_willi1> PandoraGaming:  given how vague that was... we have noidea whatyou mean..
[11:27] <asdjaputra> PandoraGaming, that's what i think about 4.6 too
[11:27] <dr_willi1> PandoraGaming:  give a screen shot? see if we can tell if its 'normal' :)
[11:27] <blitz> is rescatux suitable for fixing an issue in grub where it fails to boot my windows partition?
[11:27] <PandoraGaming> i mean the menu bar was at the top of the screen is that the unity thing i been hearing about?
[11:28] <dr_willi1> kde dosent use Unity.
[11:28] <dr_willi1> Unless you some how managed to get ubuntu and kde both going together
[11:28] <asdjaputra> PandoraGaming, screenshot and give it to imagebin.org
[11:29] <dwiash> hi guys! can anybody here help me with my problem here:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/51608/endless-usb-loop-disconnect-reconnect-zte-ac682
[11:30] <io> dwiash: explain your problem
[11:30] <PandoraGaming> http://www.flickr.com/photos/musante/5746405736/ thats an exact picture of what it looks like so weird i never seen it before but i didn't like it
[11:31] <dwiash> io: it's a  USB modem problem. it keeps disconnect-reconnect
[11:31] <dr_willi1> PandoraGaming:  thats the kde 'netbook' theme
[11:31] <dr_willi1> theres a  netbook and a desktop   display option.
[11:31] <PandoraGaming> why on earth did it install that
[11:31] <dr_willi1> its included by default.. you some how told it to use the netbook interface
[11:32] <dr_willi1> on the KDM login screen perhaps.. i forget where you toggle it.
[11:32] <blitz> beat me to it. anyone here that can help me with my boot issue? dual booting ubuntu and windows 7, damaged in such a way that grub sits at a black screen until it reboots.
[11:32] <dr_willi1> blitz:  so neiher os boots?
[11:32] <dr_willi1> neither.
[11:33] <blitz> ubuntu boots fine, but when i select the win7 partition, it just sits at a black screen until it reboots
[11:34] <blitz> i know precisely where i went wrong, but i need to know if rescatux is suitable for fixing the mbr and checking the file system, also while retaining the use of grub
[11:35] <xuser1> can you help me? can i disable nvidia driver and enable gnome display manager withowt nvidia driver?
[11:36] <blitz> xuserl: not an expert, but im pretty sure you can, if you know your way around the cli
[11:37] <xuser1> so any ideas? i cant start the GUI interface
[11:37] <xuser1> im on live cd
[11:38] <ledjo> hi I've got xubuntu installed and I installed lxde desktop afterwards in synaptic and changed lxde to be default, I then removed lxde and now I have gdm error at start up. I have to ctrl+alt+f1 and then sudo gdm every time on start up. Graphics are bad too in user session and in root are normal. any suggestions?
[11:40] <xuser1> http://imageshack.us/f/832/fotografie0800.jpg/ any ideas to fix this error ?
[11:40] <xuser1> i tryed startx comand but the same error?
[11:41] <ledjo> any clever guys here?
[11:41] <Guest40355> nope
[11:42] <jpds> ledjo: Not clever enough to read your mind.
[11:42] <Guest40355> hi all..any help for me with getting internet to work with ubuntu, internet works fine with windows
[11:42] <ledjo> then read my post
[11:43] <blitz> check your drivers 40355, if not, /etc/init.d/networking start
[11:43] <xuser1> can i delete the xorg-conf file and enable default gnome display manager?
[11:43] <ledjo> use ndiswrapper, ndisgt and windows drivers, 40355
[11:43] <blitz> xuserl: no.
[11:44] <xuser1> but . i installed the nvidia from text mode and the GUI dont start/
[11:44] <xuser1> ?
[11:44] <blitz> ledjo: for clarity, your problem is a major difference in quality between two different user accounts, root and a standard user?
[11:45] <xuser1> error no screens found
[11:45] <ledjo> not just that, blitz but it fails on gdm at startup
[11:46] <ledjo> thats the main prob
[11:46] <blitz> which desktop env are you using as default?
[11:46] <NotTooDumb2> blitz, how to check for the required drivers?
[11:47] <ledjo> I used xfce then I installed lxde and checked it as default, by accident.
[11:47] <ledjo> then I removed lxde
[11:48] <ledjo> and didn't change back to xfce before cause I didn't know where to do that
[11:48] <blitz> i would suggest removing both environments, and starting from scratch instead of sifting through config files for a while.
[11:48] <xuser1> can i start the GUI withowt nvidaia driver?
[11:49] <miono> I have a rather curious problem with SSH_AUTH_SOCK, when I start gnome-terminal from the predefined keyboard-shortcut everything is fine. But when I create a customer kybd-shortcut to start the terminal, the SSH_AUTH_SOCK isn't correct.
[11:49] <ledjo> but when I remove xfce now what stays?
[11:49] <miono> Anyone have any ideas?
[11:49] <blitz> xuserl: what is your error
[11:49] <blitz> miono: whoami, check user status
[11:50] <xuser1> no screens found
[11:50] <snadge> i have a samba share that i cant write to, but if i call it anything other than "thumbnails" then it works
[11:50] <NotTooDumb2> how to know what's my NIC and how does that help to get internet working on ubuntu?
[11:50] <blitz> ledjo: you'll have to reinstall your dominant environment
[11:50] <miono> blitz: Same result, miono in both cases.
[11:50] <snadge> i have manually configured an entry for it in /etc/samba/smb.conf .. and at one point i attempted to create a share with ubuntu's right click sharing context menu
[11:50] <histo> NotTooDumb2: lspci
[11:50] <xuser1> http://img233.imageshack.us/i/fotografie0800.jpg/ any ideas?
[11:51] <xuser1> :-/
[11:51] <ledjo> thx blitz I'll try
[11:51] <miono> blitz: All environment-variables are the same, except for SSH_AUTH_SOCK
[11:51] <blitz> xuserl: can you not use the nvideo drivers?
[11:51] <lyrd> I am having huge resolv.conf problems.
[11:51] <lyrd> I thin kthis link says it all http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11166811/Screenshot.png
[11:51] <NotTooDumb2> histo, is ethernet controller same as nic?
[11:51] <lyrd> I cant write, read, delete or anything else with it
[11:51] <xuser1> no the gui not starts
[11:52] <histo> NotTooDumb2: yes that is your wired connection
[11:52] <histo> NotTooDumb2: network adapter would be wireless if you have it present
[11:52] <blitz> xuserl: have you been able to use gdm before?
[11:52] <NotTooDumb2> histo, how am i supposed to debug? yeah i have network controller listed in lspci
[11:52] <xuser1> yes
[11:52] <blitz> snadge: create a new conf file for your samba share service
[11:53] <ghoul_> heya, is there something like the cpu-frequency applet that allows controlling all cpu's at the same time ? getting tedius with a quadcore+hyperthreading, had to add that applet 8 times
[11:53] <dagon666> how can I enable usb automount in linux server ?
[11:53] <xuser1> the startx command not work
[11:53] <histo> NotTooDumb2: i'm reading you previous messages I wasn't paying attention hold up
[11:53] <COOLDOOD> hi can some one help me with the terminal sever clienet
[11:53] <COOLDOOD> please
[11:54] <blitz> lyrd: looks like the file may be corrupted or you may have a permission issue
[11:54] <PandoraGaming> i hope this isn't a flaming question lol but is ubuntu good for a server? or is it mainly just desktop use
[11:54] <histo> NotTooDumb2: does ifconfig show that you are getting an ipadress for that nic?
[11:54] <xuser1> i installed nvidia-curent from text mode nut the same error
[11:54] <Gryllida> COOLDOOD: Please just ask the question, include details so people can reply.
[11:54] <lyrd> blitz: yes i agree. But what can I do to fix it :-(
[11:54] <blitz> @lyrd: whoami
[11:55] <NotTooDumb2> ifconfig does show eth0 , i do not know if it's getting ip or not
[11:55] <histo> xuser1: you should be able to start the gui with the vesa driver or the nouveau driver
[11:55] <lyrd> blitz: it used to work, now however dns lookup does not work anymore. I am running a live usb if that matters
[11:55] <xuser1> ?
[11:55] <xuser1> what?
[11:55] <ledjo> blitz there is no xfce-desktop like lxde-desktop entry in synaptic..
[11:55] <histo> NotTooDumb2: it would say inet addr: ###.###.###.###
[11:56] <xuser1> i think the default is vesa
[11:56] <dr_willi1> ledjo:  its xubuntu-desktop i belive
[11:56] <vayavya_> histo, yes that line is there inet addr: 14.125.46.131 Bcast: Mask:
[11:56] <wardriver> Does anybody know a tool that outputs a sound when it finds an open wlan DURING WARDRIVING?
[11:56] <COOLDOOD> every time i enter the details for the remote computer it comes up with a message saying:  error:getaddinfo: name or service not known
[11:56] <histo> vayavya_: okay and you have not network access?
[11:56] <lyrd> blitz: whoami?
[11:57] <blitz> lyrd: in terminal, type that, check your user status.
[11:57] <vayavya_> for ubuntu system internet is not working, for windows machine it works
[11:57] <lyrd> blitz: all that comes up is ubuntu
[11:57] <ledjo> oh :) thx dr_willil
[11:57] <blitz> lyrd: su
[11:57] <histo> vayavya_: is the machine just receiving an ip via dhcp in windows?
[11:58] <vayavya_> histo, how to check that?
[11:58] <histo> vayavya_: how are you configuring the network in windows?
[11:58] <blitz> wardriver: there is no tool to play a sound instance based on monitor discovery
[11:58] <xuser1> can i enable the nouveau driver ?
[11:58] <xuser1> im on live cd?
[11:58] <histo> !nouveau | xuser1
[11:59] <ledjo> ok I'm going to rebbot now, whish me luck :)
[11:59] <lyrd> blitz: hmm I can't do su, get authentication failure. I can however do sudo anything
[11:59] <wardriver> blitz: What is the best way to find open wlans during driving then?
[11:59] <xuser1> can i enable it from live cd?
[11:59] <dr_willi1> wardriver:  i use my cellphone. :)
[11:59] <dr_willi1> xuser1:  that driver is the default for my nvidia systems when i use the live cd.
[12:00] <vayavya_> histo, no idea actually vendor configured in windows and he told he does not know about linux so i am trying..but i can check if you can kindly tel me where i can check that
[12:00] <blitz> lyrd: nano resolv.conf
[12:00] <blitz> wardriver: i use my cellphone as well :3
[12:00] <blitz> wardriver: but, open wlans? as in, unprotected?
[12:01] <histo> vayavya_: well boot the machine in windows and see if it gets the same type of ip address. ex: 14.xx.xxx. etc...
[12:01] <wardriver> blitz: yes unprotected
[12:01] <bazhang> wardriver, thats not an ubuntu support issue
[12:01] <blitz> lyrd: sorry,    terminal - sudo nano resolv.conf
[12:01] <lyrd> blitz: it says new file. I try to enter a nameserver but how do I save in nano, I have only ever used vi
[12:01] <histo> wardriver: kismet probably can be configured to accomplish that.
[12:01] <COOLDOOD> can some one help please
[12:02] <vayavya_> histo, yes ip address it's getting in windows case also is 124.125.44.100
[12:02] <xuser1> i also cant start the failsafe mode thois is the xorg.conf.failsafe http://pastebin.com/vW6UjbXm
[12:02] <bazhang> COOLDOOD, patience
[12:02] <histo> wardriver: they have sounds for different things in the .conf
[12:02] <blitz> lyrd: its fine if you use vi, just sudo
[12:02] <wardriver> histo: which .conf?
[12:02] <histo> wardriver: kismet.conf
[12:02] <blitz> histo: is kismet even a logical alternative to anything in the aircrack suite?
[12:02] <xuser1> :-(
[12:03] <histo> blitz: I don't use aircrack suite so I wouldn't know.
[12:03] <wardriver> histo: I just installed kismet 10 minutes ago  but all I see is that wireshark was installed.
[12:03] <COOLDOOD> ok
[12:03] <wardriver> histo: HOw do I start and use kismet?
[12:03] <histo> wardriver: kismet is a console app doesn't have a gui
[12:03] <blitz> C00LD00D: what is your problem?
[12:03] <wardriver> histo:  ahh
[12:03] <xuser1> can i enable the nouveau driver for safemode?
[12:03] <histo> wardriver: most likely you have to edit the config before starting it.
[12:03] <xuser1> failsafex*
[12:04] <wardriver> histo: where is it located?
[12:04] <histo> vayavya_: how is this machine connected to the network? cable directly to a router/modem?
[12:04] <snadge> blitz: it doesn't appear to be the conf file thats the problem.. if i move the definition .. deleted it.. recreated it.. i can write to the share fine, if its called anything other than "thumbnails"
[12:04] <lyrd> blitz: yeah sudo vi first says permission denied at the bottom. If I still add a nameserver (to the empty file)  it says Warning: changing a readonly file. When I then save with override (w!) it says E212: Can't open file for writing
[12:04] <histo> wardriver: /etc/kismet*
[12:04] <vayavya_> histo, modem..
[12:04] <xuser1> ;-)
[12:04] <wardriver> histo: thx
[12:04] <xuser1> can i enable the nouveau driver for safemode?
[12:04] <vayavya_> i mean through cable to modem
[12:04] <ledjo> didn' work I reinstalled everything that has to do with xfce or xubuntu, I reinstalled gnome display manager, and it still fails to start it at sartup..
[12:04] <xuser1> can i enable the nouveau driver for safemode?
[12:04] <blitz> lyrd: you know how to use chmod?
[12:04] <histo> wardriver: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/kismet-an-802-11-wireless-network-detector-sniffer-and-intrusion-detection-system.html#more-1776
[12:05] <histo> xuser1: yes
[12:05] <lyrd> blitz, limited yes... like normal 777 or so :-)
[12:05] <xuser1> so?
[12:05] <blitz> lyrd: :3
[12:05] <histo> vayavya_: can you ping the gateway?
[12:05] <xuser1> whast should i do?
[12:05] <histo> vayavya_: or any other machiens on the network?
[12:05] <histo> xuser1: What are you trying to do exactly?
[12:05] <wardriver> histo: thx a lot
[12:05] <blitz> snadge: are you going through the gui to change the name of the directory?
[12:05] <vayavya_> i do not know how to ping gateway..from morning what i did was ip route gave some address and i can ping that address
[12:06] <snadge> from command line
[12:06] <lyrd> blitz: if I try to touch the file with chmod or anything else I get chmod: cannot access `resolv.conf': Input/output error
[12:06] <snadge> if i change the entry in smb.conf from [thumbnails] to anything else.. i can write to it.. its strange
[12:06] <wardriver> histo: the kismet.conf is completely empty.
[12:06] <xuser1> i cant start the GUI in safemode or normal moden can i edable the nouveau driver ?
[12:06] <sender> having problems with NVIDIA 8600GT on ubuntu 11.04, performance of compiz is very bad; did install latest drivers from NVIDIA website
[12:06] <blitz> lyrd: corrupted file, sadly. you'll have to reestablish that files existence :[
[12:06] <xuser1> at default
[12:06] <blitz> snadge: have you sudo/su?
[12:07] <wardriver> histo: sudo gedit /etc/kismet/kismet.conf ?
[12:07] <snadge> blitz: yes.. maybe i should try fsck?
[12:07] <lyrd> blitz: no worries. All I need is google nameservers, so two lines. don't need to save the file
[12:07] <xuser1> or can i start the gui withowt nvidia driver?
[12:07] <jpds> !gksudo | wardriver
[12:07] <lyrd> blitz: but how on earth can i do that?
[12:07] <lyrd> blitz: reestablish that is
[12:07] <snadge> but i moved where the share was and anything.. the problem appears to be there must be a conflict for the share name "thumbnails" but if i remove the definition.. it is not there anymore
[12:07] <histo> vayavya_: can you try traceroute 8.8.8.8 and pastebin the output
[12:07] <vayavya_> snadge, from commadline, by giving what command?
[12:08] <histo> wardriver: yeah or insert editor of your choice.
[12:08] <snadge> vi /etc/samba/smb.conf .. changed the name of the share in there.. restarted smbd and nmbd
[12:08] <vayavya_> ya traceroute is not installed on ubuntu and now no connection to install that, i tried tracepath
[12:08] <blitz> snadge: fsck might work, could be some physical memory lapses between virt and phys memory. overlapping bytes and such. i would suggest starting a separate folder and trying the same things
[12:08] <blitz> lyrd: where did the file come from?
[12:08] <snadge> then i tried moving the share from /Thumbnails to /mnt/thumbnails (where the other shares are which work fine)
[12:08] <vayavya_> histo, ya traceroute is not installed on ubuntu and now no connection to install that, i tried tracepath
[12:08] <Wisien> who knows 3d graphics  software for linux?
[12:09] <snadge> that made no difference.. its almost as if samba refuses to allow you to write to a share called "thumbnails" for some bizarre inexplicable reason
[12:09] <cypha> does postgresql come pre-installed in ubuntu?
[12:09] <lyrd> blitz: this is a ubuntu live usb created with pendrive from windows. using the 11.04 image. It all worked great for a day or so too, just stopped... about the time that i set a blank password on the default keyring
[12:09] <cypha> or ubuntu server?
[12:09] <jpds> cypha: No.
[12:09] <cypha> jpds, how do I install postgre then?
[12:10] <jpds> cypha: Why force a database server on everyone when they should be free to choose?
[12:10] <blitz> snadge: thumbnails header for actual gui thumbnails, cant use it because its already taken as a system folder :3
[12:10] <histo> vayavya_: yeah tracepath should work. It will show you your ip then first hop should be to the gateway then outside world
[12:10] <cypha> true
[12:10] <claviusmond> who here uses icecast? I have compiled it from source, configure, make, sudo make install, but when I click the blue romboid, nothing happens
[12:10] <jpds> cypha: sudo apt-get install postgresql-8.4
[12:11] <cypha> jpds, what about pip install postgresql-8.4 /
[12:11] <lyrd> blitz: but as far as I can see all I need is two lines with two nameservers in that file 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and i should be all good. So not a problem if I cant replace it with original. as long as I can force a new file into it's location I would be happy
[12:11] <_ropak_> Wisien: maybe blender
[12:11] <jpds> cypha: What is pip?
[12:11] <snadge> blitz: so the short answer is.. with windows or samba.. you cant use the share name "thumbnails" ?
[12:11] <cypha> virtualenv
[12:11] <cypha> well, python
[12:11] <jpds> cypha: Why use that when you have apt-get which is what the rest of the system uses?
[12:11] <blitz> snadge: wait, you're transferring between two different os's?
[12:12] <blitz> lyrd: what does typing su in the terminal respond with?
[12:12] <wardriver> histo: There are a few sound options in the conf file. But which open would enable a sound when an unprotected WLAN is found?
[12:12] <Soothsayer> Anyone knows who to send pidgin to tray on minimization ?
[12:12] <Soothsayer> and not have it in the window list in the taskbar
[12:12] <cypha> jpds, true
[12:12] <histo> wardriver: idk you'd have to read through the options. I don't hav ethe config infront of me.
[12:12] <cypha> jpds, how do I find out the latest version available?
[12:13] <COOLDOOD> can i hane some help please
[12:13] <NotTooDumb2> histo, tracepath 8.8.8.8 says 1. username time 2. 10.9.240.80 time 3. same as 2 and from 4 onwards no reply
[12:13] <Someguy2> Hello
[12:13] <lyrd> blitz: it does respond with a password prompt. but it refuses the only password i have ever entered it into the system. the password i enter is the same i enter for some sudo commands (altho funnily enough most sudo commands dont ask for passwords - not timeout related)
[12:13] <histo> wardriver: there is kismet_ui.conf as well.
[12:13] <jpds> cypha: apt-cache show postgresql | grep "^Version"
[12:13] <Someguy2> Can anyone help me with an IRC Client with Ubuntu?
[12:14] <COOLDOOD> v
[12:14] <asdjaputra> !ask
[12:14] <snadge> blitz: it doesnt matter if the client is windows or ubuntu.. it cant create a file in a share called thumbnails
[12:14] <blitz> try the standards, "root", "toor", or make a new pass sudo passwd root
[12:14] <bazhang> COOLDOOD, ask a clear question, lots of details, on a single line.
[12:14] <dagon666> what should I use to be able to automount usb disks in ubuntu server ?
[12:14] <Someguy2> How can i install GNOME 3 in Ubuntu Server?
[12:14] <cypha> jpds, there's supposed to be a version 9
[12:14] <cypha> i only see 8.4 thoug
[12:15] <histo> dagon666: are you running a Desktop Environment on the server or just command line?
[12:15] <bazhang> Someguy2, its unsupported here. there's a PPA but it breaks things. best to steer clear
[12:15] <jpds> cypha: Yes, the Ubuntu archives are frozen after a release and only security updates and bug-fixes are uploaded to them after that.
[12:15] <Someguy2> How about X Destop?
[12:15] <bazhang> !gnome3 > Someguy2
[12:15] <jpds> cypha: Never new features.
[12:15] <dagon666> histo: no X's
[12:15] <lyrd> blitz: I set a new password and then su worked like a charm
[12:15] <jpds> cypha: Postgres 9 will probably be in 11.10.
[12:15] <blitz> snadge: i would understand if only on windows you couldnt, because you have .db files for thumbs and thumbnail secret unlisted folders that pertain to pictures only.
[12:16] <bazhang> Someguy2, ubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop etc
[12:16] <Someguy2> Kubuntu Looks beautiful
[12:16] <lyrd> blitz: whoami now returns root
[12:16] <szal> Someguy2: (1) what does Gnome 3 have to do w/ an IRC client?  (2) what do you want w/ Gnome 3 on a server?
[12:16] <Guest58977> WaNtEd|MuSiC|002
[12:16] <blitz> lyrd: try "fsck", then try to su change the .conf file
[12:17] <PandoraGaming> i reinstalled kubuntu but it still giving me the netbook desktop how do i get the origional kde desktop
[12:17] <Someguy2> Im not used into a command line
[12:17] <jpds> cypha: Et voila, it is: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postgresql-9.0
[12:17] <histo> dagon666: what version of ubuntu?
[12:17] <bazhang> PandoraGaming, kubuntu-desktop chosen from login or install it and then choose there
[12:17] <blitz> lyrd: great news!
[12:17] <bazhang> PandoraGaming, whoops kde4 chosen from login
[12:17] <dagon666> histo: does it matter ? I can compile from sources if needed
[12:18] <szal> Someguy2: then get used to it, there's not likely a way around it if you really want to _use_ it as a server
[12:18] <cypha> jpds, what do I do with that?
[12:18] <lyrd> blitz: what's great news?
[12:18] <jpds> cypha: Nothing.
[12:18] <lyrd> blitz: I tried to comply with your previous instructions, but not sure i fully got them right
[12:18] <histo> dagon666: well they stopped auto mounting in server with their versions of hal/dbus but I believe you can install the usbmount package and all should be happy.
[12:18] <Someguy2> Is Ubuntu 11.10 beta out?
[12:18] <blitz> lyrd: what did you type?
[12:18] <cypha> jpds, how do I manually compile it?
[12:18] <szal> Someguy2: -> #ubuntu+1
[12:18] <jpds> cypha: If you want 9.0, you have to compile from source, but you won't get any security updates from Ubuntu for that.
[12:19] <lyrd> first fsck *enter
[12:19] <lyrd> then just vi /etc/resolv.conf *enter
[12:19] <lyrd> as I was su already
[12:19] <histo> dagon666: atleast that's supposed to be the point of that package to add that functionality back to the server edition.
[12:19] <dagon666> histo: I already tried that - there are major problems with providing access to all users
[12:19] <lyrd> blitz: with the same result
[12:19] <cypha> jpds, i'm on ubuntu server. will the update to 11.10 upgrade postgresql to 9 as well?
[12:19] <NotTooDumb2> histo, what could i infer from tracepath output?
[12:19] <blitz> lyrd: have you seen the contents of this file before?
[12:20] <histo> NotTooDumb2: what the gateway is and try and ping that.
[12:20] <histo> NotTooDumb2: and possibly where the problem is
[12:20] <dagon666> I was wondering if there is any better alternative
[12:20] <histo> dagon666: well maybe change the options
[12:20] <lyrd> blitz: nopes I never knew about it until dns stopped working and I google how to set dns's and i realized it was corrupt
[12:20] <jpds> cypha: Yes, but don't do that.
[12:20] <histo> dagon666: i'm assuming that package just reconfigures dbus.
[12:20] <jpds> cypha: As 11.10 is still in active development.
[12:20] <lyrd> blitz: because everything was working for a day afetr install, and also i am a linux noob
[12:20] <histo> dagon666: or udev
[12:21] <cypha> jpds, should I just stick with postgre 8.4 ?
[12:21] <blitz> lyrd: do you know how to uninstall things?
[12:21] <PandoraGaming> at the login i have KDE Plasma Workspace but that just opens the kde netbook desktop.
[12:21] <dagon666> histo: I already played around with umask,gid,user options for mount, the problem was that it resets the permissions on the mountpoint back to root
[12:21] <lyrd> blitz: with apt-get i think i could manage. otherwise, not so much
[12:21] <histo> dagon666: check under /etc/udev/rules.d/
[12:22] <jpds> cypha: Would probably be the best thing for now, unless there's a feature you really need in 9.0.
[12:22] <blitz> use these, one after the other.
[12:22] <vayavya_> histo, gateway is pinging fine...what should i check later?
[12:22] <dagon666> histo: yeah, I'll play around
[12:22] <blitz> lyrd: sudo apt-get remove resolvconf
[12:22] <histo> vayavya_: do you know the ip of your dns server?
[12:22] <blitz> lyrd: sudo apt-get update
[12:23] <blitz> lyrd: sudo apt-get install resolvconf
[12:23] <histo> dagon666: you should be able to configure the rule to whatever options you want.
[12:23] <COOLDOOD> could some one please help me
[12:23] <jpds> !help | COOLDOOD
[12:24] <KolakCC> How can I show grub when the timeout is on 0?
[12:24] <histo> dagon666: i'm not sure how the ubuntu-devs have smashed those files though. Atleast I can in arch. I'll give you a link to their wiki for some direction. The exact filename for the .rules won't be the same but will give you some guidance.
[12:24] <cypha> jpds, cool, i'll stick with 8.4, thanks
[12:24] <histo> dagon666: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev#Auto_mounting_USB_devices
[12:24] <jpds> KolakCC: Hold down the shift key while it loads after the BIOS.
[12:24] <lyrd> blitz: it said that resolvconf was not installed when i tried to remove. update does not work since it needs a dns to look up ubuntu.com
[12:24] <dagon666> histo: ok, thanks
[12:24] <PandoraGaming> at the login i have KDE Plasma Workspace but that just opens the kde netbook desktop.
[12:24] <KolakCC> jpds: I'm doing that, however it still skips it over
[12:25] <Someguy2> I tried to enable cube desktop in ubuntu but it got bricked
[12:25] <blitz> lyrd: i would highly suggest just using a fresh live boot rather than fiddling with replacing files
[12:25] <histo> vayavya_: then you would want to ping something outside the gateway. Like the DNS server.  try cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:25] <blitz> someguy2: might not be supported by your chipset or video card
[12:25] <histo> vayavya_: should list the nameservers there
[12:26] <Someguy2> I think Intel Integrated HD Does not support OpenGL
[12:26] <lyrd> blitz: well this one is almost fresh. I just installed the few apps I new like xbmc. and this file just got corrupt. is there no way I can just remove the very corrupt file and insert a new one there?
[12:26] <vayavya_> histo yes it's listing four namesevers..are they all dns servers?
[12:26] <ledjo> problem solved, I loged in as root in recovery mode session and then reinstalled gdm, et voillà jetztt ist alles wieder wunderbar!
[12:26] <ledjo> :)
[12:27] <wrek-gar> is there something that will display codec information on a media file?
[12:27] <blitz> lyrd: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/resolvconf
[12:28] <blitz> ledjo: congrats bud!
[12:28] <KolakCC> How can I show grub when the timeout is on 0? It's autobooting to windows so I can't get to ubuntu now..
[12:28] <blitz> KolakCC: >jpds: hold down shift key
[12:28] <dw-> what would you use to make fancy borders around documents
[12:28] <KolakCC> blitz: > 13:24:20 [KolakCC] jpds: I'm doing that, however it still skips it over
[12:28] <ledjo> THANK YOU, blitz
[12:28] <ChaosSaber> KolakCC: is it dual booting with 2 drives or just one?
[12:28] <szal> dw-: what documents?
[12:29] <KolakCC> ChaosSaber: Just one
[12:29] <dw-> szal: like a one page document need a fancy border like for certificates
[12:29] <ChaosSaber> Ok and you're boot menu is it from ubuntu or windows?
[12:29] <szal> dw-: again, what documents?
[12:29] <Elirips> Hello all. I installed gnome3 from ppa within my 11.04. Unfortunately, when I choose session "gnome" from the login-manager, I get the error "Failed to load session gnome." Anyone an idea?
[12:29] <blitz> KolakCC: what os does it put you in?
[12:29] <KolakCC> Windows.. however it boots into grub which boots back into the windows loader @_@
[12:30] <KolakCC> And when I select ubuntu again it goes to grub and back to windows
[12:30] <dw-> szal: havent made em yet, TBD
[12:30] <NotTooDumb2> histo, dns server is not pinging..i tried pinging first one in the list
[12:30] <szal> dw-: a third time, what documents?
[12:30] <blitz> KolakCC: SuperGrubCD or Rescatux
[12:30] <KolakCC> ....sadface was hoping to avoid that
[12:30] <dw-> szal: nyfb? :p
[12:31] <ChaosSaber> KolakCC: I only know to change the boot time in windows
[12:31] <blitz> szal: uncalled for.
[12:31] <szal> dw-: ?
[12:31] <PandoraGaming> at the login i have KDE Plasma Workspace but that just opens the kde netbook desktop.
[12:31] <ChaosSaber> but not sure about ubuntu, I am still a noob
[12:31] <szal> blitz: ?
[12:31] <blitz> oh, my bad. lol. directed at dw-
[12:31] <blitz> KolakCC: sometimes thats the only option if something happens in the bootloader.
[12:32] <dw-> blitz: seriously waste of time q's
[12:32] <PandoraGaming> at the login i have KDE Plasma Workspace but that just opens the kde netbook desktop how do i get it to open the origional kde desktop :-)
[12:32] <dw-> i need an app that makes fancy borders
[12:32] <blitz> dw-: its a request to know what type of files they are. not the contents of the documents.
[12:32] <dw-> blitz: so i said to be determiend - any format
[12:33] <ChaosSaber> so KolakCC needs to change their boot time in ubuntu
[12:33] <dw-> ubuntu failz borders :[
[12:33] <Benkinooby> hi
[12:33] <KolakCC> The thing is, I can see the "GRUB booting up"... but shift doesn't make it show
[12:34] <KolakCC> I just want to see the boot menu, once, so i can change the settings
[12:34] <NotTooDumb2> how to do dns flush and does that help if i can ping router, gateway but not dns server?
[12:34] <KolakCC> Sigh, going to go grab a rescue disk then
[12:34] <blitz> dw-: from what it looks like, you may have to create it by hand.
[12:34] <ChaosSaber> how did it get set to 0?
[12:35] <KolakCC> ChaosSaber: I, uh, set it to 0. :(
[12:35] <lyrd> blitz: sadly installing the package failed with the same IO error when it tried to reach the file
[12:35] <szal> lol
[12:35] <ChaosSaber> how?
[12:35] <KolakCC> bootupmanager or something of the like
[12:35] <dw-> blitz: maybe i can wine Word :D
[12:35] <ChaosSaber> so run that again and change it to like 5-10
[12:35] <ChaosSaber> or you can't boot into ubuntu now?
[12:35] <KolakCC> ChaosSaber: I would, but it's an ubuntu application
[12:35] <blitz> dw-: thats a plan, actually, most m$ office supplies work in wine
[12:36] <szal> KolakCC: grab a live CD, edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg to change the timeout to a value other than 0, then boot the system, set that value in /etc/default/grub and run 'sudo update-grub'
[12:36] <veer> how do I restore original theme in ubuntu 11.04?
[12:36] <blitz> lyrd: sudo rm resolv.conf?
[12:36] <szal> .oO( dw- doesn't seem to have heard of LibreOffice yet.. )
[12:37] <dw-> yea i got it the borders are just solid lines
[12:37] <wrek-gar> is there a program which will display codec information on a media file?
[12:37] <lyrd> blitz: I will try in a while, now i tried a forcefsck and rebooted the machine. once it's back i will try
[12:37] <histo> NotTooDumb2: make sure you can ping the nameservers
[12:37] <dw-> szal: and have to make a table to even add them...
[12:37] <histo> NotTooDumb2: that is the problem then
[12:37] <bazhang> wrek-gar, right click properties
[12:37] <histo> NotTooDumb2: but you can't ping 8.8.8.8 either?
[12:37] <dw-> I guess I could design in GIMP it probably has something
[12:38] <blitz> szal: i was never able to get libreoffice to work any more than being very very slow sadly
[12:38] <wrek-gar> has anyone ever used kdenlive to upload videos to youtube?
[12:38] <histo> NotTooDumb2: the problem is if you don't know how your network is coinfigured. I'm not sure anyone is going to be able to help you configure it with any OS
[12:38] <Guest22532> what is this file? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0?? i do not have this file on my ubuntu..
[12:39] <blitz> 22532: ethernet config file
[12:39] <histo> NotTooDumb2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25557
[12:39] <histo> NotTooDumb2: follow that link
[12:39] <clock> Hi all
[12:39] <claviusmond> what commands do I need to run icecast?
[12:40] <clock> I would like to try if sound in Firefox, Skype, mplayer and arecord works in Ubuntu at the same time, without installing Ubuntu on my PC
[12:40] <clock> is this possible with the Live CD?
[12:40] <blitz> clock: yes
[12:40] <xxmmaann> im back / i instaled the nvidia 275 form nvidia site and now i cant remove it end install the driver using sistem/admin/add.drivers
[12:40] <clock> cool :)
[12:40] <histo> clock: yes
[12:40] <io> claviusmond: read the manual
[12:40] <xxmmaann> i want remove it because is not well suported and i cant play anu games
[12:41] <lyrd> blitz: sudo rm resolv,conf leads to normal input/output error
[12:41] <wardriver> histo:  I have set the source to: source=BCM4727,eth1,Broadcom
[12:41] <blitz> lyrd: sudo rm -f resolv.conf
[12:42] <wardriver> histo: but I am getting Unknown capture source type 'BCM4727' in source 'BCM4727,eth1,Broadcom' Done.
[12:42] <lyrd> blitz: same IO err
[12:42] <histo> wardriver: looking at other peoples configs I think the alert sound is what you want or something similar. I'm not sure it's been a while since i've used kismet
[12:42] <szal> xxmmaann: your fault if you took the driver from nvidia.com when there's better-manageable options around :P ..  'sudo nvidia-installer --uninstall' should get you rid of it
[12:42] <histo> wardriver: there is a readme that shows different sources what to put.
[12:43] <xxmmaann> if i remove this driver i cant start ubuntu in graphic mode
[12:43] <blitz> lyrd: ls -il resolv.conf
[12:44] <lyrd> blitz: what I just tried :-)  I get ls: cannot access resolve.conf: No such file or directory
[12:44] <blitz> lyrd: right, it doesnt exist...
[12:44] <Guest22532> histo, thank you for the link, i am following that link, netstat -nr does not give any output ips on my ubuntu...does that mean i must set a default gateway?
[12:45] <histo> Guest22532: I have no idea how your network is supposed to be configured.
[12:45] <lyrd> blitz: it seems that way because it has a questionmark for indode number. however if I do a ls -la or similar it still gets listed. but with questionmarks for everything
[12:45] <xxmmaann> i removed it
[12:45] <Guest22532> histo, in general, are any ips supposed to appear when we type netstat -nr?
[12:46] <blitz> lyrd: false files and directories are a sign of bad blocks on the drive. or disk in your case.
[12:46] <histo> Guest22532: my gateway shows up when I do that.
[12:46] <blitz> lyrd: means you have to use a new image. :[
[12:46] <Guest22532> oh.ok then i wil set a default gateway
[12:46] <ledjo> I would like to test other distros on my old satellite notebook but cd rom drive doesn't work since a month ago and usb boot is not supported by bios, so I installed unetbootin, downloaded alternate distro cd image (says in netbootin when booting from hdd), netbootin 'mounted' or whatever the image on the hdd, I then rebooted as told and started netbootin at grub but it still asks for cd after language and keyboard settings at the
[12:46] <ledjo> install begin :(
[12:47] <lyrd> blitz: dang. it's a usb3 thumb drive. should I be worried about the usb stick?
[12:47] <blitz> lyrd: no, its probably an issue with how you copied the image to the drive
[12:47] <rhin0> I got ubuntu working fine on an ssd (simple)
[12:48] <rhin0> is great 10x faster
[12:48] <lyrd> blitz: I just used the app pendrive. and it worked great for like a day or so.
[12:48] <lyrd> blitz: how would you install it, the machine has no harddrive. only this usb stick that I want everything to run off
[12:48] <blitz> rhin0: noticed that too, backtrack works like a charm
[12:49] <blitz> lyrd: pendrive usually works, i would say try it again. this time you know how to configure certain things. always keep a backup of problem files somewhere just in case.
[12:49] <rhin0> its like the move from cassette tape to cds (mechanical hard drives to SSDs) - anyway enough OT
[12:49] <lyrd> blitz: okay, cool. I will have another go at it ^^
[12:49] <blitz> ledjo: bad netbootin copy, try it again. common problem, happened to me too.
[12:49] <lyrd> blitz: A big thanks for all the help
[12:50] <blitz> lyrd: no problem, happy to help.
[12:50] <patientFinder> is it possible to reinstall ubuntu without altering /home directory?
[12:50] <blitz> patientFinder: the most you could do is swap the kernel out from under it.
[12:51] <_stephan> Has anyone managed to compile gcc 4.6.1 on Ubuntu Natty?
[12:51] <szal> patientFinder: if you have /home on a separate partition, yes
[12:51] <patientFinder> blitz: so that's a no?
[12:51] <ledjo> blitz, what do u mean reinstall netbootin or use another image or just do unetbootin thing again?
[12:51] <bazhang> !home | patientFinder
[12:51] <bazhang> patientFinder, sure you can. the cd should have an option not to overwrite personal directory
[12:52] <blitz> ledjo: yes, its a common problem with unetbootin as it doesnt get updated very often. bad mounting process sometimes.
[12:52] <bazhang> patientFinder, or you can move it, as per the link above. always have backups however
[12:52] <patientFinder> ubottu: id check that link out.
[12:52] <bazhang> patientFinder, ubottu is a bot
[12:52] <ledjo> so just repeat mounting with the same image?
[12:53] <lyrd> blitz: I thought I would redownload the image. would you recomend the 64bit or 32bit version? It's running on a atom/ion htpc
[12:53] <vayavya_> after i give auto eth0       iface eth0 inet dhcp in my /etc/network/interfaces, am i again supposed to give addresses for gateway etc.,?
[12:53] <bazhang> ledjo, mount to use as an installer?
[12:53] <patientFinder> bazhang: hehe.. thanks
[12:53] <blitz> ledjo: yes, if it happens again, redownload or find a new image
[12:53] <blitz> lyrd: 64 bit for home theater, always. or 32 if you need more things to be compatible.
[12:53] <patientFinder> bazhang: so the idea is to create a partition, move my /home there then reinstall..
[12:54] <bazhang> patientFinder, one option, yes
[12:54] <ledjo> ok thx blitz
[12:54] <ledjo> thats right, bazhang
[12:54] <vayavya_> after i give auto eth0       iface eth0 inet dhcp in my /etc/network/interfaces, am i again supposed to give addresses for gateway etc.,? any help for me?
[12:55] <patientFinder> bazhang: are you aware of other options? as it is, i have everything in one partition
[12:55] <bazhang> patientFinder, only ubuntu? or dual boot with windows
[12:56] <th0r> vayavya_: I think that is all you need in interfaces
[12:57] <gerson> bom dia
[12:57] <lyrd> blitz: I have another question actually. I entered a windows mount in fstab and it worked great. but it seems on live usb linux the fstab is reset on every boot. So is there a way to make fstab persistant or otherwise a way to mount my windows share on boot?
[12:57] <vayavya_> th0r, i am going mad in making internet to work on ubuntu..i really do not get what to check next
[12:57] <patientFinder> bazhang: only ubuntu. I use nothing else.
[12:57] <erlongshan> hello,everybody
[12:57] <bazhang> !br | gerson
[12:57] <th0r> vayavya_: is this wireless?
[12:57] <vayavya_> no it is wired
[12:57] <blitz> lyrd: unfortunately since you are using a live image, no.
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[12:58] <th0r> vayavya_: that should be all you need. Are you running a desktop or a server?
[12:58] <vayavya_> same connection works in case of windows, might be some configurations missing on ubuntu
[12:58] <vayavya_> th0r, desktop
[12:58] <rhin0> vayavya_:  have you checked your wireless card is compatible with ubuntu -- otherwise you can wrap a windows driver using "ndiswrapper"
[12:58] <rhin0> most wireless cards are compatible with ubuntu
[12:58] <rhin0> tell me the name of your wireless card
[12:58] <bazhang> rhin0, this is wired hes talking about
[12:58] <blitz> lyrd: actually, im having a serious lapse of memory right now due to lack of sleep, yes of course its possible. sorry.
[12:59] <vayavya_> rhin0, i am trying to make wired connection work, not wireless connection
[12:59] <rhin0> ok your broadband card
[12:59] <th0r> vayavya_: then interfaces won't help much. As soon as you log into a desktop network mangler will take over...so you probably need to comment out interfaces and get nm working. I had to do that just a week ago when I installed debian
[12:59] <vayavya_> rhin0, how to check my broadband card? what is the command?
[12:59] <lyrd> blitz: cool  :-)   sleep deprivation is the best
[12:59] <rhin0> ok vayavya_: you need to tell us the name of your broadband card
[12:59] <rhin0> lspci
[12:59] <rhin0> type lspci | less
[12:59] <bazhang> vayavya_, paste.ubuntu.com with output of lspci ifconfig and sudo dhclient eth0    and give us the url
[12:59] <gerson> ola
[13:00] <bazhang> gerson, #ubuntu-br for portuguese
[13:00] <blitz> lyrd: sure is, i've been living off of monster energy drinks and cocaine for the past week.
[13:00] <bazhang> blitz, drop the drug talk here
[13:00] <alex__> lul
[13:00] <blitz> bazhang: its an energy drink...
[13:01] <alex__> he's obviously referring to the cocaine you mentioned
[13:01] <alex__> ....................
[13:01] <rhin0> coca cola was that originally
[13:01] <blitz> >cocaine energy drink, it exists.
[13:01] <lyrd> blitz: brilliant!  any chance of figuring out how to make it work too, i google the hell out of it before but no matter what i did fstab was reset
[13:01] <gerson> chao nao
[13:01] <TNRR2012> is there a good place to find a detailed guide for compiz in the Ubuntu 11.04 environment?  thanx
[13:01] <oCean> !ot
[13:01] <_stephan> Another try: Is anyone using gcc 4.6.1 on Natty?
[13:01] <bazhang> gerson, english here, you've been asked twice now
[13:02] <rhin0> I would think any version of gcc should compile with natty _stephan -- maybe you have a separate problem to gcc -- what is the message you get when it doesn't compile?
[13:02] <rhin0> gcc is fundamental
[13:03] <_stephan> cannot compute suffix of object files: cannot compile in the middle of the build
[13:03] <naufragoweb> olha eu acho que nao....
[13:03] <_stephan> "cannot compute suffix of object files: cannot compile" in the middle of the build
[13:03] <rhin0> well _stephan: get the output into pastebin and show it to people here
[13:04] <rhin0> when you try to compile it -- cut the output out of the bash shell session (scroll back through all of it) and copy it into the website pastebin -- then you can post the url here so people can look at it _stephan
[13:05] <blitz> lyrd: what editor are you using to edit fstab?
[13:06] <usc911> anyone tried steam on ubuntu? just having a look at it, not really much of a gamer but i'm having a pretty lazy day :)
[13:06] <gerson> olha ate da para voce usar no ubuntu
[13:06] <szal> _stephan: why would you want that anyway?
[13:06] <szal> !pt | gerson
[13:06] <lyrd> I was using a graphical one, default double click action. whenever i tried in vi i would do weird stuff like type charachters when i moved around with cursor keys
[13:06] <_stephan> rhin0: one issue was that gcc 4.6.1 needs libppl0.11-dev and libcloog-ppl-dev, but libcloog-ppl-dev depends on libppl0.10-dev, which conflicts with the 0.11 version
[13:06] <blitz> try using nano
[13:06] <rhin0> thats always the case _stephan -- multiple dependencies
[13:07] <gerson> nao
[13:07] <rhin0> the case with a problem -- you need to install all the packages it says its dependent on -- many will be available through the synaptic package manager
[13:07] <bazhang> gerson, thats enough. english here.
[13:07] <_stephan> rhin0: in this case there is no way to resolve the dependencies with builtin packages, so I built libcloog myself
[13:07] <lyrd> blitz: will do, when I have reinstalled. I tried setting the immutable bit on it... but chattr just said someting about failing when it looked at some bits.
[13:08] <lyrd> blitz: when i google that it said that was most likely due to the file being in ram only... but if thats the case then i dont know how to reach the original
[13:08] <BluesKaj> bazhang, don't think he understands any english
[13:08] <rhin0> _stephan I don't get it would have thought gcc was "always there" on any ubuntu distro
[13:08] <rhin0> I just typed gcc here in 10.04 here (is there)
[13:08] <_stephan> of course it is.... but not gcc 4.6.1
[13:08] <bazhang> BluesKaj, he had the !pt at least 3 times.
[13:08] <claviusmond> where does ubuntu install icecast2 by default?
[13:08] <_stephan> which is the latest and greates
[13:08] <_stephan> t
[13:09] <bazhang> BluesKaj, which is in Portuguese.
[13:09] <BluesKaj> bazhang, a brazilian troll
[13:09] <rhin0> _stephan if you need to find help to install the "latest and greatest" version of gcc you obviously aren't able to use gcc
[13:09] <_stephan> huh?
[13:09] <rhin0> not sure what you are trying to do _stephan do you need it to compile something
[13:10] <bazhang> _stephan, why do you need the latest. please clarify
[13:10] <dr_willi1> you could use the 'sudo apt-get build-dep PACKAGENAME' to pull in needed dependencies.. that might 'help'
[13:10] <_stephan> because of the improved c++0x support, I only need it for my own projects...
[13:10] <bazhang> _stephan, then look at what dr_willi1 suggested just now
[13:11] <szal> _stephan: there's a build of gcc 4.6.0 in the Ubuntu Toolchain PPA
[13:11] <dr_willi1> or was it build-deps  , one or the other will pull in all needed dev packages.  makes compiling new versions easier.
[13:11] <_stephan> I already installed the build-dep for gcc-4.5... but that didn't help, and it also doesn't resolve the libcloog issue (though building my own libcloog seems to work))
[13:12] <szal> _stephan: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gcc-4.6
[13:13] <blitz> lyrd: have you tried sudo nano fstab?
[13:13] <_stephan> There's probably also a debian package for gcc 4.6.1 somewhere... but getting it into natty without  breaking anything probably isn't simple...
[13:13] <lyrd> blitz: i just reinstalled the usb drive :-) I will try now
[13:13] <szal> _stephan: do you read me?
[13:14] <_stephan> szal: yes, I'll try that. I take it that gcc-4.6 will be installed in parallel and won't become the default?
[13:14] <NotTooDumb2> bazhang, here are the outputs http://paste.ubuntu.com/637458/
[13:14] <szal> _stephan: as for the 'default' part I don't know, but it does get installed in parallel; Natty comes w/ gcc-4.4 and gcc-4.5 by default
[13:15] <blitz> lyrd: im probably going to go pass out for a few decades. make whatever changes you need to make in the files. always remember to reboot after doing such. if you encounter problems later on, redownload the image.
[13:15] <szal> _stephan: and if the pkg does change the default, you should be able to fix that w/ update-alternatives
[13:16] <bazhang> NotTooDumb2, whats the issue? you got a lease
[13:16] <NotTooDumb2> i can ping gateway, but not dns server or 8.8.8.8
[13:16] <bazhang> NotTooDumb2, you using a proxy then?
[13:16] <_stephan> szal: thanks, but I get "Unable to locate package gcc-4.6"
[13:16] <lyrd> blitz: well the image is new on it now already. so will try the fstab stuff now
[13:17] <szal> _stephan: hmm..  you didn't forget the 'apt-get update', did you?
[13:17] <_stephan> no
[13:17] <NotTooDumb2> bazhang, i do not what is a proxy infact..i just tried them in process of debugging
[13:18] <usc911> anyone tried steam on linux? I have no optical drive so I cannot install a game from a DVD
[13:19] <szal> _stephan: then I don't know
[13:19] <histo> usc911: yeah many have
[13:19] <_stephan> thanks anyway
[13:19] <bazhang> !steam | usc911
[13:19] <blitz> usc911: it works just fine
[13:19] <usc911> cool I shall give it a go
[13:19] <histo> usc911: use wine http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19444
[13:20] <usc911> that looks pretty successful
[13:20] <cordoval> how to find out that my live cd is 64 bit ubuntu 11.04?
[13:21] <blitz> usc911: counter strike? :3
[13:21] <bazhang> cordoval, uname -r
[13:21] <usc911> haha! dunno
[13:21] <usc911> im not  abig gamer
[13:21] <usc911> just bored
[13:21] <computerx> Hi, I need to recover a disk image I created with dd if=/dev/sdc. It's ext4 but got a bad sector 1.1mb in which seems to have broken the "superblock"? I can't even fsck it. Any suggestions?
[13:21] <cordoval> oh I should have done that before I reboot
[13:21] <cordoval> now I have to go in again
[13:21] <cordoval> and then try installing
[13:21] <cordoval> hmm
[13:21] <cordoval> can I install with a command from live cd?
[13:21] <FloodBot1> cordoval: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:21] <cordoval> so I don't have to reboot again?
[13:22] <blitz> usc911: i highly suggest it. so fun. other recommendations would be team fortress, half life and gmod.
[13:22] <usc911> cool I will look in to these
[13:22] <histo> cordoval: install what?
[13:22] <ledjo> blitz where are you from?
[13:22] <bazhang> histo, ubuntu
[13:22] <usc911> this is the first time I have actually required an optical drive since i got this rig
[13:22] <blitz> ledjo: midwest us
[13:22] <histo> computerx: how'd you create the image with dd with bad sectors?
[13:23] <bazhang> !ot | ledjo
[13:23] <Kurdistan> is the laptop mode tools stil conflict with pm-ulitus?
[13:23] <histo> !install | cordoval
[13:23] <ledjo> just 1 question bazhang, won't happen aggain
[13:23] <bazhang> Kurdistan, got a bug link?
[13:23] <iszak> Anyone got an ETA of support for Dell XPS 15z on Ubuntu 11.04?
[13:24]  * peedeedottk @domenico653 are you still here
[13:24] <Kurdistan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/laptop-mode-tools/+bug/638307
[13:24] <computerx> histo, with noerror flag
[13:24] <Kurdistan> bazhang, there you have the link.
[13:24] <bazhang> Kurdistan, its been triaged
[13:24] <Kurdistan> bazhang, and that means?
[13:24] <cordoval> just had to click the icon
[13:24] <Kurdistan> I am running maverick low to have it installed without breaking suspend
[13:25] <cordoval> uname -r does not tell me it is 64 bits
[13:25] <xxmmaann> i installed the nvidia260 driver back but now i cant set the resolution
[13:25] <bazhang> cordoval, paste the output
[13:25] <peedeedottk> blub
[13:25] <bazhang> xxmmaann, set how. what did you exactly
[13:25] <cordoval> uname -a told me
[13:26] <bazhang> +do
[13:26] <cordoval> is 6.38-8.generic ubuntu natty?
[13:26] <cutout> hi, am trying to install transperante oxygen on ubuntu kde desktop but no luck, can anyone help me?
[13:26] <cordoval> 11.04?
[13:26] <Muelli> cordoval: yeah, I think so. You can check on packages.ubuntu.com. Or just execute a "lsb_release -a"
[13:26] <bazhang> !info linux | cordoval
[13:26] <xxmmaann> in nvidia-setting i have only 2 opotion 640x480 and 320x280
[13:27] <Gryllida> cutout: What do you mean by 'no luck'?
[13:27] <xxmmaann> i need 1360x768
[13:27] <cutout> Gryllida it is installed but not working! I dont why
[13:27] <xxmmaann> any ideas?
[13:28] <BluesKaj> iszak, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops/Dell/XPS/15z
[13:28] <cordoval> how big should partition / be and /home in a 750GB disk?
[13:28] <Gryllida> cutout: What problem with using it?
[13:29] <bazhang> cordoval, 20 gb for / the rest for swap and /home
[13:29] <iszak> BluesKaj, I'm aware when will it be baked in tho?
[13:29] <cutout> Gryllida: it is selected in the styles but the desktop apperence is still the default
[13:30] <BluesKaj> cordoval, give / about 15G , the rest is optional
[13:30] <cordoval> oh ok
[13:30] <cordoval> thanks, and I can automate swap I guess
[13:30] <cordoval> and the others
[13:30] <BluesKaj> iszak, if you're asking for a timetable ,,,there isn''t one
[13:31] <iszak> that kind of sucks.
[13:31] <E3D3> How can I find manually installed apps that are not in the repository & I have forgotten ?
[13:31] <iszak> dpkg -l ?
[13:32] <bazhang> E3D3, manually installed how? using .deb compiled or what
[13:32] <BluesKaj> iszak, everyone is in the same boat the devs don't work on specific pc or laptop models
[13:32] <rajvi> hello guys a newbie here ... why irssi not connecting ??? http://pastebin.com/disDtd97
[13:32] <iszak> BluesKaj, devs?
[13:32] <bazhang> rajvi, using what port
[13:32] <rajvi> lemme check ..
[13:32] <E3D3> bazhang: manually, with script, make etc.
[13:32] <BluesKaj> developers . iszak
[13:32] <iszak> bluebomber, oh right, get you.
[13:33] <bazhang> E3D3, and checkinstall or not
[13:33] <rajvi> port 6667
[13:33] <E3D3> bazhang: I dont understand you last question. What is checkinstall ?
[13:33] <ledjo> see ya guys! have a nice sunday, especially you, blitz! :)
[13:33] <bazhang> rajvi, try another port?
[13:34] <iszak> BluesKaj, I guess I'll need to wait it out, thanks.
[13:34] <rajvi> kk how to configure irssi ..:(
[13:34] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall E3D3
[13:34] <bazhang> rajvi, #irssi may know
[13:34] <Phong_> hi guys
[13:34] <BluesKaj> wait for what, iszak? ...11.04 is already mature
[13:34] <iszak> BluesKaj, wait for support.
[13:34] <rajvi> thanks
[13:35] <BluesKaj> have you tried ubuntu on your machine , iszak?
[13:35] <iszak> BluesKaj, I tried installing Fedora, OpenSUSE and I think Ubuntu
[13:35] <BluesKaj> you think ?
[13:36] <iszak> I can't remember, there was lots of attempting to install.
[13:37] <Fudge> hi anyone help with update-rc.d
[13:37] <BluesKaj> well iszak...then try again to make sure
[13:37] <iszak> going to, also before there was no solution to the trackpad, but it's looking good now.
[13:37] <rajvi> my bluetooth stopped working ... did lot of and install many packagesmodifications last week all i remember i suspect change the Ui a lot
[13:37] <Fudge> trying to change the start order of a program with update-rc.d -f program start 23 2 3 4 5 . stop 70 1 . but it does not rename from S02 to S23
[13:38] <Huffameg> hello. I want to reconfigure ubuntu to use « and » instead of " and ". Anyone who knows how I can do this?
[13:40] <E3D3> bazhang: I installed checkinstall. Will use it when installing next time. Guess it wont help with my old installed apps ?
[13:40] <bazhang> E3D3, sadly no
[13:40] <E3D3> bazhang: Still thanks for this.
[13:44] <rtyui> hello there i got a problem with git
[13:45] <rtyui> git clone  git://git.icinga.org/something
[13:45] <rtyui> here is what i got /usr/bin/gitfm: fatal error: `chdir' failed: permission denied.
[13:45] <rtyui> what to do ?
[13:46] <Gryllida> rtyui: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240972
[13:49] <mimico> hi.  In skype, is there a way to set the mid-size window for a video call as the default window size?
[13:51] <MAC_> anyone can tell me that V11 is compatible with my ppc?
[13:52] <rtyui> not solving the problem same error Gryllida
[13:52] <szal> MAC_: what's that?
[13:52] <MAC_> i have the mac with osx 10.5.8
[13:52] <MAC_> and want to isntall last version of ubunto
[13:52] <MAC_> is a goth-a idea?
[13:53] <MAC_> because have truble to use one usb modem
[13:53] <MAC_> or must to go with V6?
[13:53] <rtyui> same error/usr/bin/gitfm: fatal error: `chdir' failed: permission denied. same error once after doing sudo update-alternatives --config git
[13:54] <rtyui> Gryllida:
[13:54] <krux> ubuntu 10.10 works fine in a g4 ppc 400mhz i got
[13:54] <cracoucas> Hi everybody, my server is at 100% CPU , I can only access through rescue mode.... how can I disable Java in rescue Mode?
[13:54] <StevenR> cracoucas: what doesyour server do? Is it a tomcat server?
[13:55] <MAC_> >msg> mess krux: and you sugested to take 10.10
[13:55] <rtyui> hello anyone there ?
[13:55] <sequencesequence> Does anyone here have an optimu-enabled ThinkPad T510? I want the PCI ID of the nvidia chip, please.
[13:55] <cracoucas> stevenR no it is only a lighttpd with PHP , but I suspect a java application to launch at startup
[13:55] <cracoucas> stevenR please help me I am completely lost in rescue mode
[13:56] <Logan_> !ask | rtyui
[13:56] <StevenR> cracoucas: ps aux |grep -i java
[13:56] <StevenR> what does it show?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> rtyui, sometimes installing git-core will help ...it's marked as obsolete but iworked for me
[13:56] <StevenR> could you pastebin the result cracoucas
[13:56] <Gryllida> rtyui: sudo apt-get remove git ; sudo apt-get install git-core
[13:56] <cracoucas> stevenr root      3955  0.0  0.0   1768   500 pts/1    S+   14:56   0:00 grep -i java
[13:56] <Gryllida> rtyui: http://open80211s.com/pipermail/devel/2007-December/000005.html
[13:57] <StevenR> cracoucas: that's it? Just that one line?
[13:57] <cracoucas> yes steven .. I ma in rescue mode
[13:57] <StevenR> oh
[13:57] <StevenR> that's not very useful
[13:57] <cracoucas> in rescue mode the CPU is at 0% . in normal mode I am at 100% and I can not access ssh
[13:58] <StevenR> cracoucas: don't use ssh?
[13:58] <StevenR> use the local console? or DRAC/ILO/LOM ?
[13:58] <cracoucas> it is a remote server
[13:58] <StevenR> so?
[13:58] <cracoucas> tell me what to do to make this little server work withlighttpd like it worked for one year long
[13:58] <rtyui> Perfect, working Gryllida
[13:58] <rtyui> thanks a lot
[13:58] <StevenR> cracoucas: how do you know it's at 100% ?
[13:59] <cracoucas> stevenR I have a web interface from my hoster telling me it is at 100%
[13:59] <jfcaron1> Sometimes my sound just randomly stops working, but rebooting always fixes it.  I tried all the suggestions on the Ubuntu Sound Troubleshooting page, but nothing worked.  Any idea what could be causing it?  10.04 LTS on an eeepc 700.
[14:00] <Gryllida> rtyui: Excellent.
[14:00] <blackz> lj
[14:01] <Guest20124> hello
[14:01] <Gryllida> Hello there.
[14:01] <cracoucas> stevenR can you help me?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> jfcaron1, pulseaudio installed? if so install pavucontrol or the other option is to remove pulsaudio and let alsamixer handle your audio settings
[14:02] <Lanlost> Hello, I know it is possible to mount an FTP locatkon as a folder.. but talked to a friend the oher day who said that he mounted it as like a "drive" that showed up in the fileystem
[14:02] <StevenR> cracoucas: sorry, just balancing irc with cooking. My response will be slow for the next 10 mins or so. Why do you suspect it's java? What have you changed recently on the server?
[14:02] <cracoucas> my disk has been full to 99% this morning
[14:03] <Lanlost> and that it showed up  like one. The kicker is that he said this was built into Ubuntu,  As in there is a gui way to do this.. Anyoen have any idea what they meant/
[14:03] <cracoucas> I erased some data to go back to 90%
[14:03] <cracoucas> but lighttpd wasn't working at all , so I restarted the server and now it hangs
[14:03] <Gryllida> Lanlost: http://www.junauza.com/2011/03/mount-ftp-location-on-your-local-linux.html seems similar.
[14:03] <cracoucas> stevenR in rescue mode I do not understand anything
[14:04] <bazhang> !enter | cracoucas
[14:04] <Gryllida> Lanlost: Map it to a directory and then 'mount' it to have it show up as a drive by the looks of it.
[14:04] <BluesKaj> !samba | Lanlost
[14:05] <cracoucas> bazhang why do you write my nick ?
[14:05] <bazhang> cracoucas, your overuse of the enter key. it makes reading you r issue very hard to understand
[14:06] <cracoucas> ok bazhang
[14:06] <szal> !it | MAC_, maybe you can get better help there, you don't seem to be able to make yourself understood here
[14:06] <Lanlost> BluesKaj, I know what samba is
[14:07] <Lanlost> that's how I would previously do something like this
[14:07] <rahin88> anyone tried archlinux here ?
[14:07] <bazhang> rahin88, try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:07] <Lanlost> It's my original xbox I'm trying to do this for. It can connect to windows shared folders via samba, but I don't think it can serve them
[14:09] <Lanlost> it does, however, have FTP support. I can connect fine via a client. I'm more curious because I told him "sure, just moun it via FTP" and proceeded to give him links to curlftpfs when he said "no, no.. I found it
[14:09] <cutout> how can i install new styles on kde desktop?
[14:09] <StevenR> cracoucas: ok. so how do you access the server in rescue mode?
[14:10] <StevenR> cracoucas: I'm trying to understand what you have available to you.
[14:10] <Lanlost> I asked him what he found, expecting samba or something, and he said "I just went to ________________________", (something like "add external connection/add network drive_, "and that worked fine. Now it shows up as a drive, not just a folder"
[14:11] <Lanlost> that's basically how the conversation went
[14:11] <cracoucas> can we talk in private stevenr?
[14:11] <StevenR> cracoucas: no, because here you get the benefit of more knowledge :)
[14:12] <cracoucas> stevenR I access the server in rescu mode through SSH after setting a rescue mode reboot on my hoster web interface
[14:12] <StevenR> ok
[14:13] <jwagstaff> i am trying to do some video conversions with ffmpeg but i am getting an error that libmp3lame doesn't exisit.  i know it is installed with another package (mplayer).  what can I do to resolve this issue?
[14:13] <xch> hi
[14:14] <bazhang> ibmp3lame0 jwagstaff
[14:14] <StevenR> cracoucas: so, whydo you suspect... java?
[14:15] <dominik> witam wszystkich
[14:15] <xch> hi
[14:15] <bazhang> !pl | dominik
[14:15] <cracoucas> stevenR because I think I have set up a script that starts a java app at start up that may result in 100% cpu.
[14:15] <xch> I'am made in china
[14:15] <dominik> hello all
[14:16] <StevenR> cracoucas: ok. So, how did you setup that script?
[14:16] <bazhang> xch, ubuntu support question?
[14:16] <jwagstaff> bazhang: libmp3lame0 is already installed, but when i run ffmpeg it says that it is missing
[14:16] <xch>  how ?
[14:16] <xch>  I like English
[14:16] <bazhang> xch, this is ubuntu support; did you have a support question
[14:16] <Shaba1> Hello all
[14:17] <cracoucas> stevenR I do not remember , I just want to disable java for startup or remove java
[14:17] <xch> bazhang  very good
[14:17] <Shaba1> After I do a ctrl-alt-f2 to get a full screen terminal how do I get back to the desktop
[14:17] <grmrgecko> http://pastie.org/private/29zoc3k5auulsyst99qnfq I am receiving this after using WUBI on a Pentium 3 computer
[14:17] <bazhang> xch, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic  ; ubuntu support here
[14:17] <xch>  ye
[14:17] <S74rk7> anyone here familar with usb_modeswitch?
[14:17] <Huffameg> hello, again. I'm using a Norwegian keyboard and for some reason it has " and " as standard quotation mark.however, the correct one in Norwegian is « and ». How can I change the standard in 11.04?
[14:17] <oCean> Shaba1: ctrl-alt-f7
[14:17] <Lanlost> ok, so no one here is aware of some gui file system mounter in ubuntu?
[14:17] <bazhang> jwagstaff, not sure, I use handbrake for video conversion
[14:18] <Gryllida> S74rk7: This channel can be, please ask full question.
[14:18] <Shaba1> oCean,  that is to get back?
[14:18] <grmrgecko> Seems to be a perl error.
[14:18] <jwagstaff> bazhang: is there a deb package for it?
[14:18] <oCean> Shaba1: yep
[14:18] <bazhang> jwagstaff, a PPA yes
[14:18] <xch>    why window logo theme nuo't setup?
[14:18] <Shaba1> thanks oCean
[14:18] <Shaba1> Ok second thing
[14:18] <bazhang> jwagstaff, jstebbins PPA
[14:18] <Lanlost> I'll let you know if I find it I'll let you guys know
[14:19] <Lanlost> sorry, I'm really tired
[14:19] <jwagstaff> bazhang:  thanks
[14:19] <Lanlost> nice sentence, eh? =P
[14:19] <Shaba1> is there a way to have multiple channles displayed in windows rather then tabs in xchat?
[14:19] <grmrgecko> I'm going to try kubuntu
[14:19] <xch> ???why window logo theme nuo't setup?
[14:19] <bazhang> xch, windows? as in Microsoft windows?
[14:19] <xch> window logo
[14:19] <xch>   no   ubuntu?
[14:20] <bazhang> xch, for windows? or ubuntu
[14:20] <grmrgecko> and then if it works install the ubuntu desktop environment
[14:20] <xch> ubuntu
[14:20] <grmrgecko> gnome*
[14:20] <S74rk7> I'm currently trying to get a netgear wnda3200 wifi dongle to work under 10.10... I've seen on the net people talking about have to use usb_modeswitch to get it to act as a wifi card instead of a mass storage device when it is first connected...
[14:20] <xch> gnome
[14:20] <bazhang> xch, what is window logo
[14:20] <ikonia> xch: what is the problem ?
[14:20] <xch> yes
[14:20] <Lanlost> shabal, dunno, but did you know that there are two versions of xchat? xchat-gnome and just xchat?
[14:20] <StevenR> cracoucas: ok. um... well, how does this java thing run?
[14:20] <xch> nuo't install!
[14:20] <grmrgecko> If someone knows the answer, let me kknow.
[14:21] <bfh198> hello any1 know some software that'll add / remove songs from ipod >> banshee not working at all
[14:21] <Stanleycar> I know, I know!
[14:21] <Stanleycar> xchat2. :P
[14:21] <cracoucas> stevenR I think I added a start script
[14:21] <xch> http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter
[14:21] <xch> sorry    logo window
[14:21] <S74rk7> from what I've read the it behaves this way as because if it was plugged into a windows machine...it will install its driver and then switch firmware and act as a wifi card
[14:21] <StevenR> cracoucas: ok, cd /etc/init.d
[14:21] <StevenR> cracoucas: if you ls in there, do you see your startup script?
[14:21] <astraljava> bfh198: gtkpod
[14:22] <cracoucas> stevenR no I can not see it
[14:22] <S74rk7> I see in my log it connects as a usb mass storage device too ... would someone be able to give me a bit of help using usb_modeswitch?
[14:22] <sgo11> Hi, how to make banshee UI show file name instead of track information? I have no idea why all "smart players" want to show track information instead of file name. All my musics don't have proper track info....
[14:22] <cracoucas> stevenR , just found it
[14:23] <S74rk7> bfh198: Tried Amorak... banshee gave me a bit of grief as well but Amorak seems ok...
[14:23] <blackz_> list
[14:23] <StevenR> cracoucas: so, you've found your script in /etc/init.d ?
[14:23] <cracoucas> stevenR how to remove it from start up
[14:24] <Gryllida> blackz_, what?
[14:24] <blackz_> listvoice
[14:25] <StevenR> cracoucas: "sudo update-rc.d -f SCRIPTNAMEGOESHERE remove"
[14:25] <blackz_> ...
[14:25] <cracoucas> steven
[14:25] <ikonia> blackz_: what do you want ?
[14:25] <Hedgehog456> None of my media players, including the default DVD Player and VLC, will play my DVD on Ubuntu
[14:26] <StevenR> cracoucas: yes?
[14:26] <cracoucas> stevenR removed , I am trying a normal mode reboot
[14:26] <StevenR> ok
[14:27] <Hedgehog456> The DVD itself is fine
[14:27] <xch> oh
[14:28] <xch>   nuo't man help?
[14:28] <Adek> ELo
[14:28] <drip> Well everyone
[14:29] <Adek> Do you speak Polish?
[14:29] <bazhang> !pl | Adek
[14:29] <cracoucas> stevenR it worked thank you !
[14:29] <StevenR> cracoucas: awesome! You're welcome :D
[14:30] <drip> no
[14:30] <xch> 能听懂中文嘛？
[14:30] <drip> 说中文多好
[14:30] <LBo> Is wireless.kernel.org down or is it just me?
[14:31] <StevenR> LBo: fails here too.
[14:31] <PoppaChubba> LBo, down for me
[14:31] <bazhang> !cn | drip xch
[14:32] <xch>   玩 安装那个登录主题的界面  无法安装
[14:32] <bazhang> xch, /join #ubuntu-cn
[14:32] <xch> 我的版本是ubuntu 11.04
[14:32] <bazhang> xch, this is english only
[14:32] <xch>   #ubuntu-cn  no man！
[14:32] <LBo> OK, thanks!
[14:32] <jjovereats> xch: You have to if you speak Chinese.
[14:32] <bazhang> xch, you are not in there.
[14:33] <jjovereats> xch: Please do not use Big5. Use UTF-8.
[14:34] <xch>  I'am use UTF-8
[14:34] <bazhang> xch, /join #ubuntu-cn you are not in there
[14:34] <jjovereats> xch: Also, hk and TW are appropriate if you are in one of those areas.
[14:35] <cloudyLights> any idea how to solve this
[14:35] <cloudyLights> http://dpaste.com/562402/
[14:35] <Hedgehog456> Will this command "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh" damage my computer?
[14:35] <bazhang> Hedgehog456, no
[14:35] <jjovereats> xch, can you stop putting spaces before your messages?
[14:35] <bazhang> cloudyLights, give a synopsis here please
[14:35] <bazhang> jjovereats, lets move on
[14:35] <Hedgehog456> bazhang: So it'll only allow me to watch DVDs?
[14:35] <PoppaChubba> claude2, what does /cat/issue tell you?
[14:36] <bazhang> Hedgehog456, have you tried it yet
[14:36] <PoppaChubba> cloudyLights, er, I mean what does "cat /etc/issue" tell you?
[14:36] <Hedgehog456> bazhang: Doing it now :P
[14:36] <teddyroosebelt> is there a doc somewhere that lists folders that should be backed up on an ubuntu system(specifically config files for apps because i dont want to backup everything)?
[14:36] <xch>                    thank you
[14:36] <PoppaChubba> teddyroosebelt, um, "/etc"?
[14:36] <PoppaChubba> :)
[14:37] <xch> thanks #ubuntu
[14:37] <Hedgehog456> bazhang: Thanks, now it seems to be working
[14:37] <PoppaChubba> teddyroosebelt, starting with the home and etc directory is always a good idea
[14:38] <xch> Thank you for the help
[14:38] <xch> My mailbox:eeevvv5@126.com
[14:38] <xch> thanks
[14:39] <bazhang> xch, you are welcome
[14:39] <teddyroosebelt> PoppaChubba, kewl ill take a look. i mainly need it just for user profile settings. i do know there are some in ~./config ill need aswell
[14:40] <cloudyLights> Ubuntu 11.04
[14:41] <grmrgecko> Can I get Ubuntu 11 to work on a Pentium 3?
[14:41] <cloudyLights> bazhang: I am trying to run the git version of evolution
[14:41] <rhin0> of course grmrgecko
[14:41] <grmrgecko> good
[14:41] <grmrgecko> then I am not trouble shooting for nothing.
 I ru in to this when trying to satisfy the ./configure
[14:42] <grmrgecko> It's a 600MHz with 256MB of ram.
[14:42] <lyrd> I have a live usb with persistance. I use fstab to mount i windows mount. however, every reboot and it resets the fstab and no windows mount happens. how can i either make fstab persistant or in other fashion make sure my mount happens on boot
[14:42] <grmrgecko> same specs of my iPod:P
[14:42] <cloudyLights> <PoppaChubba I had to install glib from git , as libglib wasnt current
[14:43] <szal> grmrgecko: unlikely..  if you're lucky you get it to run w/o X or w/ LXDE or some other light window manager, but certainly not w/ Gnome or KDE
[14:43] <PoppaChubba> cloudyLights, you may have gotten yourself into some dependency problems from doing that
[14:43] <cloudyLights> , so how to fix?
[14:43] <grmrgecko> szal: So then I'll give fedora or an older version of ubuntu a try
[14:44] <PoppaChubba> cloudyLights, you'll have to purge all those packages, then install them again
[14:44] <iniesta6> hi
[14:44] <grmrgecko> if I can't get kubuntu to work
[14:44] <cloudyLights> how to get glib 2.2.0 +?
[14:44] <lapaga>  grmrgecko am using 256m but it is a p4 with xubuntu
[14:44] <iniesta6> may i get little help about installing ubuntu from wubi.exe
[14:44] <PoppaChubba> cloudyLights, you have to stick with the version the repo gives you to remain consistent
[14:45] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[14:45] <szal> iniesta6: better install in VirtualBox or on real hardware
[14:45] <grmrgecko> lapaga: I'll give xubuntu a try after this then.
[14:45] <PoppaChubba> cloudyLights, "libgconf2-4 (= 2.32.2-0ubuntu2) but 2.32.4-1ubuntu1~natty1 is to be installed" <--- that's why you are getting this
[14:45] <grmrgecko> I just need some type of linux:P
[14:45] <grmrgecko> windows isn't a good way to scan for viruses
[14:45] <PoppaChubba> cloudyLights, it's trying to pull in dependencies that aren't in the repo
[14:45] <iniesta6> ill try
[14:45] <iniesta6> ty
[14:45] <mrdeb> happy holiday
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[14:46] <szal> mrdeb: what holiday?
[14:46] <cloudyLights> use gnome ppa?
[14:46] <PoppaChubba> cloudyLights, you have to uninstall that version of glib
[14:47] <Lanlost> great
[14:47] <grmrgecko> maybe debian will work
[14:47] <grmrgecko> I know Ubuntu is debian based
[14:47] <iniesta6> im trying to download the ubuntu iso for live cd
 uninstalled glib, what now?
[14:47] <iniesta6> but im getting error on the official website
[14:47] <acicula> grmrgecko: ubuntu and debian have the same origins but are very different
[14:47] <iniesta6> http://mirror.isoc.org.il/pub/ubuntu-releases//natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[14:48] <acicula> grmrgecko: if you need something userfriendly id stick with ubuntu or fedora
[14:48] <grmrgecko> I am a nerd who stays in the command line
[14:48] <PoppaChubba> cloudyLights, uninstall any other packages you manuallly installed
[14:48] <PoppaChubba> grmrgecko, same :)
[14:48] <Lanlost> I've been using a 300gb hard drive in my xbox for like 5 years now. Never had a problem except that there seems to be an issue where it.. loses it's power or something. It did this from the beginning. It makes a weird clickingnoise.
[14:48] <grmrgecko> so I can deal without a user friendly thing
[14:48] <szal> grmrgecko: how about grml or SystemRescueCd then?
[14:49] <acicula> grmrgecko: i suppose im just a lazy geek :)
[14:49] <PoppaChubba> Lanlost, that's usually indicative of a failure
[14:49] <grmrgecko> szal: I tried using Hiren's Bootcd, but it runs out of ram quickly
[14:49] <PoppaChubba> Lanlost, HD failure
[14:49] <Lanlost> Welll
[14:49] <acicula> grmrgecko: whats the problem you are having? not enough ram?
[14:49] <PoppaChubba> Lanlost, the head isn't moving across the platter
[14:49] <Lanlost> The thing is.. It's done this since the beginning
[14:49] <sreekar> hello
[14:49] <Lanlost> and yes, I know that it's definitely possible to have a bad hard drive since you get it
[14:49] <szal> grmrgecko: see, 256 MB of RAM aren't good for much these days any more ;)
[14:49] <grmrgecko> acicula: In Hiren's boot cd trying to run spy bot search and destory
[14:49] <PoppaChubba> Lanlost, yeah, I had one that clicked for 2 years. Run tests on it  though
[14:50] <PoppaChubba> Lanlost, will come up with lots of errors
[14:50] <acicula> grmrgecko: eh i dont know anything about a Hirens boot cd
[14:50] <Lanlost> but.. I could always fix it by just adjusting the power on the back. I have the case off always. And the old hard drive I had in here did the same thing (stock hard drive)
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[14:50] <cloudyLights> whats next?
[14:50] <grmrgecko> yeah, why I'm moving to ubuntu to run anit virus
[14:50] <grmrgecko> clamav
[14:50] <cloudyLights> still getting same error
[14:51] <zeroburn> hay all i have a problem with SDL, when i start kednlive, i get error "Failed to initialize SDL: No available video device".. Im runing ubuntu 11.04_64
[14:51] <PoppaChubba> cloudyLights, you uninstalled libgtk2.0-dev too?
[14:51] <Lanlost> it seems to be more the connector. If I push up the connector so that it's sort of jammed up 2-3 degeres then it goes away. Every once in a while it loses i's hol
[14:51] <szal> grmrgecko: http://grml.org/faq/#requirements
[14:51] <Lanlost> loses it's hold and does this. I just adjust for a few attempt's and it's fine. Either way, Id on't want to lose this data. Any good way to image it? I've never done that before
[14:51] <PoppaChubba> Lanlost, yeah, but if it was power it wouldn't click, it wouldn't do anything
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[14:52] <grmrgecko> szal: I'm guessing that's anit virus
[14:52] <Lanlost> Poppa, the problem her eis the word 'click'
[14:52] <acicula> !backup | Lanlost
[14:52] <grmrgecko> Hiren's bootcd has it
[14:52] <PoppaChubba> cloudyLights, talk to me in PM. We'll try and fix this puppy
[14:52] <acicula> Lanlost: if the disk has problems i would just try a dd copy myself
[14:52] <Lanlost> Everytime I've ever said "click" with a hard drive, people freak out and say it's a hard drive failure (I'm not saying that YOU are freaking out.. you should meet the people I'm talking about.
[14:52] <Lanlost> Ok
[14:53] <PoppaChubba> heh sometimes dd can bring on the big failure :)
[14:53] <acicula> Lanlost: ie take a raw image from the disk
[14:53] <PoppaChubba> Lanlost, nah, like I said, I used a drive that did that for over 2 years
[14:53] <acicula> PoppaChubba: the alternative is endlessly cycling through filesystem errors
[14:53] <teddyroosebelt> i thought about using dejadup myself.. but then it wouldnt work on all computers. so im gonna stick with rsync
[14:53] <PoppaChubba> acicula, yep
[14:53] <grmrgecko> kubuntu just reboots the computer each time
[14:53] <acicula> PoppaChubba: and hoping that wont break the disk :P
[14:53] <grmrgecko> so yeah, I'll try debian
[14:53] <grmrgecko> make a partition that's 5 GB or something
[14:54] <Lanlost> When I say click too.. I mean, normal healthy hard drives do it. I mean the disc access clicking noise. In a pattern, not a 'failure' clickng sound, like the head is 'resetting' or something.
[14:54] <szal> grmrgecko: that's general purpose system rescue stuff..  grml comes w/ clamav, you just need to update its signature database
[14:54] <Lanlost> Sorry, I don't mean for this to be off-topic since it's a) hard drive, and b) xbox
[14:54] <lapaga> grmrgecko, you do realize that you are trying to use the most memory intensive (i think) of the ubuntu's
[14:54] <acicula> some disks are just loud
[14:54] <Lanlost> My point of this really is hard drive backing up, with ubuntu =P
[14:55] <grmrgecko> lapaga: no?
[14:55] <grmrgecko> lol
[14:55] <Lanlost> The one thing I wanted to know is.. It's nice and all to just make an image with DD.. but I'd like it to be accessable, file by file, if possible. The reason is that it's a proprietary file system
[14:55] <grmrgecko> I only ever used the gnome based ubuntu
[14:55] <PoppaChubba> Lanlost, have you run SMART / hdparm tests on it?
[14:55] <grmrgecko> not the KDE based one
[14:55] <grmrgecko> szal: I'll give it a try
[14:55] <Lanlost> Maybe, since it's working right now.. and appears that it just took me a second to get it in the right position, that I'll just FTP as much of the stuff off, in order of importance. Sound good?
[14:55] <grmrgecko> all I can say is that Microsoft Security Essentials found nothing
[14:56] <acicula> Lanlost: i dont know the filesystem that xbox uses, but if ubuntu does not support it you can only make a raw image anyway
[14:56] <grmrgecko> and this computer was at Windows XP SP1
[14:56] <grmrgecko> no updates
[14:56] <acicula> grmrgecko: wipe it and start again?
[14:56] <Lanlost> Poppa, hrm, I wonder if there is a way to check SMART on an xbox hard drive, from the XBOX. I could put it in the PC if not of course
[14:56] <grmrgecko> lol
[14:56] <grmrgecko> acicula: I do not like window's license crap
[14:57] <Lanlost> I think there acutally is a module or something for L=XFAT, the file system.
[14:57] <grmrgecko> this computer doesn't have a license on it because they bought windows xp seperate.
[14:57] <acicula> grmrgecko: yeah, but using windows XP SP1 is aking to going on vacation, leaving all the doors open and placing an add in the newspaper about how you will not be home the next few weeks
[14:57] <grmrgecko> it came with 98 before
[14:57] <oCean> grmrgecko: let's get back on topic, ok? The support issue?
[14:57] <PoppaChubba> I didn't know Xbox used a different filesystem that FAT32
[14:57] <grmrgecko> lol
[14:58] <Lanlost> Actually, I know there is.. because when I originally modded it.  I hot swapped it and was using midnight commander
[14:58] <grmrgecko> downloading grml
[14:58] <acicula> Lanlost: that means you can read a raw image . you can mount such images using loopback
[14:58] <Lanlost> ah yes, you are right. Good point
[14:58] <Lanlost> I didn't think that you could just loopback ANY file system
[14:58] <Lanlost> You just need to be able to read it? I thought it was only for like.. isos of cds and such
[14:58] <acicula> grmrgecko: anyway if you suspect you have a virus that msrt didnt find there is no guarantee that clamav will either, especially since its only a passive scan. if you suspect you have/had malware wiping and reinstalling is your safest option.
[14:59] <Lanlost> makes sense with the nature of a loopback
[14:59] <acicula> any block device can be mounted
[14:59] <grmrgecko> acicula: I believe it has one because everytime I boot, MSSE is off
[14:59] <Lanlost> I only have one eye open btw, and I keep alternating.. I'm just that tired. I was going to go to bed a long time ago when I thought "Hey, I'll update dosbox" and that's when I was curious about mounting it as a 'drive' (friends word, not mine)
[15:00] <Lanlost> and then loooked at my TV and noticed, hey, that's not King's Quest 6.. that's an error about my hard drive. =P
[15:00] <oCean> grmrgecko: do you have an ubuntu question?
[15:00] <Lanlost> So thanks guys, I think I'll go to bed and do this tomorrow more carefully
[15:00] <edbian> Lanlost: What's the difference
[15:00] <edbian> ?
[15:00] <grmrgecko> oCean: I did, I posted it way back
[15:00] <PoppaChubba> Lanlost, good idea :)
[15:00] <grmrgecko> http://pastie.org/private/29zoc3k5auulsyst99qnfq
[15:00] <oCean> grmrgecko: then stick to that issue, and stop other discussion
[15:00] <grmrgecko> while it sets verifies the install
[15:01] <grmrgecko> none answered for 30 minutes
[15:01] <grmrgecko> other than ubuntu won't run...
[15:01] <grmrgecko> so I will just try other oses
[15:01] <grmrgecko> thanks anyway
[15:03] <Lanlost> edbian, whats the difference between what?
[15:03] <edbian> Lanlost: Your game and a hardware error.  I was kidding :P
[15:04] <floogy> Hi, is there an internal protection to decompression|zip|archive bomba in zlib or bzip libs and programs, or can I only secure my system against that by using ulimits.conf? What parameters should I set for limits.conf?
[15:04] <floogy> *bombs
[15:05] <acicula> by bomb you mean archives that expand to very large files?
[15:07] <acicula> if so no there isnt a protection for that in those compression libs, you will have to set limits on the user executing those programs or on the directories where files are expanded to
[15:08] <Lanlost> edbian, I don't appriciate your humor and am highly offended, please refain from all future attacks or the FBI will be knocking at your door. My dad is also God and you will be smited
[15:08] <bazhang> Lanlost, thats enough
[15:08] <edbian> Oh My Your Dad!
[15:08] <Lanlost> and Roberta Williams says she doesn't like you any more
[15:08] <Lanlost> =), ok bazhang
[15:08] <floogy> acicula, yes or recursive packed files http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_bomb
[15:08] <Traintop> Hi Folks! yesterday I asked for a package that would turn my 11.04-laptop into an (radioclock,alarmclock, "Radiowecker" in german)... -but as it seems there is no such package I decided to investigate on my own... but the tutorials are all quite out-dated: so here's my question; -which is the "most-ubuntu-style" method to set an acpi-alarm?
[15:08] <bukowski> can I ask a newbie support question here?
[15:09] <bazhang> bukowski, yes of course
[15:09] <edbian> Traintop: use at
[15:09] <edbian> Traintop: You can do things like at 8:45 aplay /some/song/file
[15:09] <Traintop> edbian: "at" ?
[15:09] <edbian> Traintop: It's a command
[15:10] <A-R-R> Do I need to follow any specific boilerplate for developing apps for ubuntu using pygtk?
[15:10] <floogy> acicula, so /etc/security/limits.conf or quota are the points to configure against such an attack?
[15:10] <bukowski> Trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 on acer apsire one d255 -- running test drive off usb stick and I have aboslutely no touchpad control.  tried gconftool-2 as I found onine, no luck.  Apparently there is nothing in Xorg.0.log relating to my trackpad.  I would like to install ubuntu, but obviously need a functioning trackpad.
[15:10] <acicula> Traintop: you want the laptop to wakeup or just send a signal when its already on?
[15:10] <edbian> A-R-R: What do you mean by boilerplate ?
[15:11] <Lanlost> I wonder if I should go back to standard Ubuntu. I'm using Ubuntu Studio for the real time kernel it has by default but I found that it didn't seem to have any benefit, and actually seemed to make my system worse. Anyone have any experiences with it?
[15:11] <floogy> acicula, I read in the manpages of bzip2 that listing the contents also decompress the whole archive first, so that's no way to see if the archive is affected?
[15:11] <Traintop> edbian: this will probably not be what I want; -my idea is the following: in the evening I plug my laptop into ac and set an alarm for tomorrow morning; the pc then turns off, sleeps all night and charges its battery; then at let's say 06:59 it wakes up, fires up vls with a desired playlist/stream-source and wakes me up :-)
[15:11] <A-R-R> edbian: I meant any specific template? like the project skeleton
[15:11] <acicula> floogy: i would say both, ulimit just sets limits on things like filesize i think, but not how much space is used
[15:11] <PoppaChubba> bukowski, what would the real Charles Bukowski do?
[15:12] <edbian> Traintop: You want it to turn itself on?
[15:12] <Traintop> s/vls/vlc/
[15:12] <bukowski> drink a few bottles of wine and throw the fucking netbook out the 15th floor window.
[15:12] <PoppaChubba> you got it
[15:12] <Traintop> edbian: I thought acpi-wakeup does this
[15:12] <bukowski> what is a WMID device?
[15:12] <IdleOne> !language | bukowski
[15:12] <acicula> floogy: idk if there are ways to partially decompress a bzip archive to allow inspection. you can set restrictions on the space it can use to do it. if it hits the limits it will just fail
[15:12] <bukowski> 'scuse me... burp.
[15:13] <Lanlost> At the time I was between jobs and my TV that I used to, erm, watch tv's speakers stopped working, so I routed the sound to my computer. Problem is, I was poor and only had a mono plug to stereo so sound only came out of my right speaker. I ended up using Jack (among other reasons) to mirror the right speaker to the left.
[15:13] <ohir> bukowski: 10.04 works fine on AAone.
[15:13] <edbian> A-R-R: I've written a large app in pygtk.  I'm sure there are many conventions I didn't follow.  :P  You can see how I did it here: https://github.com/edbian/Mint-Berry-Crunch
[15:13] <bukowski> ohir.  wifi too?
[15:13] <floogy> acicula, in limits.conf I can set limits of programs like unzip bunzip2 etc.?
[15:13] <edbian> Traintop: Really?  IDK anything about this :P
[15:13] <bukowski> thought you had to do whole extra thing to get wifi working?
[15:13] <PoppaChubba> bukowski, you may have hit upon a bug in 11.04
[15:13] <ohir> bukowski: I do not tried 11.04 though
[15:13] <Lanlost> There was lag though so I got Studio for the real time kernel to reduce latency. Every time I enabled it though, it seemed to do what it did on non-real time kernels. Immediately start systematically destorying all stability until rebooting
[15:13] <ohir> bukowski: yep, wifi too
[15:13] <Traintop> edbian: IDK?
[15:13] <acicula> floogy: no they set limits based on users
[15:14] <ohir> bukowski: 10.04 is LTE distro
[15:14] <edbian> Traintop: Besides turning on what we're talking about is the same thing.  you can point at to vlc instead of aplay.  at 6:45 vlc /path/to/some/file/
[15:14] <edbian> Traintop: IDK = I don't know
[15:14] <bukowski> ohir - straight from the install disk?  I only went with 11.04 because I read that wifi didn't work on d255 without extra pckgs
[15:14] <update> anyone know what channel i would go to ubuntu network security
[15:14] <bukowski> ohir.  LTE means?
[15:14] <ohir> bukowski: with 3yr support so I'd suggest starting with that
[15:14] <Traintop> edbian: but can the "at"-command also turn off the pc or put it into s3/s4?
[15:14] <floogy> acicula, but then: how can I configure bzip2 for limits?
[15:14] <foxhoundz> How can you tell if Ubuntu has hardware acceleration enabled
[15:15] <acicula> floogy: there will be a user executing bzip2
[15:15] <ohir> bukowski: LTS*, long teerm support
[15:15] <acicula> you can set limits for that user
[15:15] <foxhoundz> I have an Intel GMA HD integrated card but I'm getting issues with it
[15:15] <bukowski> Ah.. ok
[15:15] <bukowski> I'll try it.
[15:15] <bukowski> thanks all
[15:15] <Traintop> edbian: thx fpr IDK :-) all this chat-language; mom, afk, brb, cu, re, ... :-)
[15:15] <bukowski> sorry about the language  :P
[15:15] <Traintop> s/fpr/for(
[15:15] <floogy> acicula, hm, that's not what I want. ;(
[15:15] <edbian> Traintop: Ahhh!  I didn't know you wanted it to shutdown too :P  You can use cron to do regular timed events.  LIke everyday at midnight shutdown.  Use cron for that.
[15:15] <edbian> Traintop: mom ?
[15:15] <Traintop> edbian: just a moment
[15:16] <edbian> Traintop: Interesting...
[15:16] <Traintop> edbian: I once before heard it's mainly popular in german-online-gaming-scene :-)
[15:16] <ohir> bukowski: there were problems with wifi on AAone IIRC. It was fixed with ne update though
[15:16] <floogy> foxhoundz,  glxinfo?,
[15:16] <edbian> Traintop: anyway, use at for something that happens at a specific time.  Use cron for regular events that happen periodically.  use a script to play a sound for you and the shutdown command to turn off pc.  Combine the three
[15:16] <ohir> bukowski: so be prepared to get updates over wire
[15:17] <Traintop> so anybody any ideas how to set up an acpi-wake-up-event in ubuntu 11.04 so the ubuntu-devs say it's done "nicely" :-) ?
[15:17] <acicula> floogy: limit.conf governs what users see and can do only
[15:17] <ohir> bukowski: nm*
[15:17] <acicula> floogy: you can use apparmor to control what programs can do
[15:17] <foxhoundz> floogy: I ran into this (https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html) just when you mentioned that :P
[15:17] <acicula> floogy: though not sure it that will let you set a quota
[15:17] <Traintop> one ubuntu-tutorial says to put the time in /proc/acpi/alarm but that does not exist on my machine :-(
[15:17] <anthony_dev> hello. I downloaded file sun_java_wireless_toolkit-2.5.2_01-linuxi486.bin.sh but I cant execute this one in terminal. any ideas?
[15:18] <floogy> acicula thx for the hints!
[15:18] <foxhoundz> let me boot into ubuntu and try
[15:18] <Traintop> anthony_dev: try chmod u+x sun_java...
[15:20] <floogy> acicula, It would be fine if all decompression libs and programs would test for such bombs and throw out a warning message wich provide users and programs with informations and a force option to omit this check.
[15:23] <filosofixit> I've got isc-dhcp server running but got both /etc/dhcp and /etc/dhcp3 directories... which one is used by the server?
[15:23] <delinquentme> which applett is the battery life display?
[15:23] <rhin0> the one on the top right of the screen delinquentme
[15:24] <delinquentme> rhin0, haha i mean if i want to put it back .. bc its not there currently
[15:24] <rhin0> right click on panel click on "add to panel" something to do with battery or power will be there
[15:25] <zeroburn> is there anyone here that can help me to install and setup SDL on ubuntu 11.04_64
[15:25] <rhin0> maybe not
[15:26] <acicula> floogy: not likely to happen. you could try to list files in a package first, but you will never be able to tell if they are bad files untill you unpack them
[15:26] <Ampelbein> zeroburn: what error message do you get?
[15:27] <zeroburn> Ampelbein: is says there is no available video devices
[15:27] <filosofixit> Anyone who knows if ISC-dchp server is using /etc/dhcp  or /etc/dhcp3?
[15:27] <acicula> anthony_dev: you need to make sure its executable, just right click the file in the filebrowser and toggle execute, are you sure however there is not a ubuntu packaged version of that program?
[15:27] <zeroburn> Ampelbein: well.. after installing it and running a program that is..
[15:27] <terry> Can someone help me, I installed ubuntu with the alongside windows option, but when i reboot the screen keeps flickering on ubuntu and does find on windos 7(home premium)
[15:28] <Ampelbein> zeroburn: and what is your video card? did you install the proprietary drivers? what does glxinfo say?
[15:29] <filosofixit> nevermind, I found it out.. I guess it is safe to remove the old /etc/dhcp3 directory then?
[15:31] <terry> how do i uninstall ubuntu? I use the alongside windows option on windows 7
[15:31] <zeroburn> Ampelbein: video card: Nvidia geforce GT 335M, I did version 270.41.06... glxinfo has a HUGE output.. u want me to pastebin it?
[15:33] <CarlFK> terry: you install something else to replace it.  same answer as "how do you uninstall windows?"
[15:33] <Ampelbein> zeroburn: yes, please.
[15:33] <Traintop> CarlFK: I think he used this install-option, which installs the linux-root-tree inside the ntfs-win-filesystem
[15:34] <terry> @carl, i used the install inside windows
[15:34] <CarlFK> Traintop: terry:  oh... wubie?
[15:34] <zeroburn> Ampelbein: http://patebin.ubuntu.com/637511
[15:34] <Traintop> as I haven't done this before I would magically suggest to delete the directory called "linux" or "ubuntu" or something similar
[15:34] <gdw> hello
[15:34] <gdw> hi
[15:34] <Traintop> CarlFK: i think so :-)
[15:34] <CarlFK> terry: yeah, that.  t
[15:35] <terry> i figured it out, dont know why my screen keeps flickering in ubuntu
[15:35] <CarlFK> terry: guessing this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Uninstallation
[15:37] <terry> thanks carl, any idea why the flickering in ubuntu
[15:38] <Ampelbein> zeroburn: that looks ok, how did you install sdl, with apt-get? can you try a simple game like sdl-ball?
[15:39] <zeroburn> Ampelbein: yes trough synaptic package manager, and no, but kdenlive gives me the video errors, as well as openshot..
[15:40] <zeroburn> Ampelbein: Im downloading sdl-ball now to test with it..
[15:41] <barnee> people i just got a bug in ubuntu
[15:41] <barnee> can i post what i got in here?
[15:42] <Ampelbein> barnee: report it with 'ubuntu-bug <packagename>' please
[15:42] <iniesta6> hi
[15:42] <romariosdn> oi :D
[15:43] <barnee> ubuntu-bug <update manager> E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[15:43] <iniesta6> ive download ubuntu-11.04-alternae.i386.iso
[15:43] <iniesta6> i want to burn the iso to make live cd
[15:43] <iniesta6> how i can save the changes that ill make on ubuntu?
[15:43] <zeroburn> Ampelbein: same error with sdl-ball
[15:43] <barnee> what is sdl-ball?
[15:44] <zeroburn> iniesta6: that wont work
[15:44] <iniesta6> :S
[15:44] <Ampelbein> zeroburn: hmm, no idea then, sorry.
[15:44] <zeroburn> iniesta6: the "alternative" is not a gui version...
[15:44] <iniesta6> so what that?
[15:44] <barnee> am i supposed to post that bug report here or somewhere else?
[15:45] <zeroburn> Ampelbein: danm... it worked before my format... aaaugh.. haha.. i realy need my video edditing software... but awell.. tnx anyway..
[15:45] <iniesta6> what i need to download so i can save changes?
[15:45] <zeroburn> iniesta6: it means you wont have any graphics... and no live system... you need the normal ISO file..
[15:45] <iniesta6> and ill be able to save changes?
[15:45] <quant> iniesta6, install it
[15:46] <zeroburn> iniesta6: what do u mean by "saving changes".. like installing an aplication and keeping that?
[15:46] <iniesta6> yes
[15:46] <quant> iniesta6, CD is a read only medium
[15:46] <iniesta6> i can install the ubuntu on my computer form the live cd?
[15:46] <zeroburn> iniesta6, what quant said..
[15:46] <zeroburn> iniesta6: yes.
[15:46] <quant> iniesta6, yes
[15:46] <iniesta6> which iso i need?
[15:46] <quant> iniesta6, depends on what you want
[15:46] <iniesta6> i try to downaload from official site
[15:46] <iniesta6> but i get an error
[15:46] <iniesta6> im new,dont know realy
[15:46] <quant> iniesta6, there are descriptions on the official site, read them
[15:47] <Northernen> Are there any media players which can play SWF files? Having to view them in Firefox is becoming tedious.
[15:47] <zeroburn> iniesta6: any ISO but NOT  the alternitave install..
[15:47] <why-not> Northeren:VLC
[15:47] <dimas_> how do i get to make pulseaudio server to use jack when i need it? ...i a using ubuntu 11.04 and pulseaudio.0.9.22
[15:47] <iniesta6> i try to download from here
[15:47] <iniesta6> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[15:47] <Northernen> why-not, I've tried. It can't.
[15:47] <astraljava> barnee: If you used ubuntu-bug, it posted the bug report to launchpad.net
[15:47] <iniesta6> but i am getting nothing when pressing on downloaed
[15:47] <noisymouse> what is the name of the power management app binary?
[15:48] <quant> iniesta6, works for me
[15:48] <quant> iniesta6, on what OS and browser are you?
[15:48] <why-not> hmm
[15:48] <iniesta6> chrome
[15:48] <iniesta6> xp
[15:48] <zeroburn> iniesta6: same here.. works perfect..
[15:48] <quant> iniesta6, open it in internet explorer and try
[15:49] <acicula> noisymouse: gnome-power-manager
[15:49] <zeroburn> iniesta6: here's a direct link to the 32bit version http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-release//natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[15:49] <Northernen> why-not, I'm getting the sound on the SWF files in VLC, but no video.
[15:49] <iniesta6> works :S
[15:49] <iniesta6> :)
[15:49] <iniesta6> ty ill burin that iso and install
[15:49] <floogy> acticula, man clamscan|egrep -B3 -C1 '\-\-max|archive' - This is something to check such archives I guess.
[15:49] <zeroburn> iniesta6: awsum, enjoy..
[15:50] <quant> iniesta6, good luck
[15:50] <barnee> astraljava: where do i check whether i filed it or not?
[15:50] <acicula> floogy: clamav will still unpack the files to check them though
[15:51] <astraljava> barnee: @ https://launchpad.net
[15:51] <why-not> Northeren: VLC is my goto player usually
[15:51] <kunji1> Hey everyone, I just setup multitouch in 10.10, and was using easystroke.  I rebooted a few times to make sure everything was persistent and good to go, then I upgraded to 11.04.  The multitouch is still working, but easystroke is not working with the touch screen (though it will with the trackpad).  I'm using a Lenovo S10-3t.
[15:51] <acicula> floogy: and frm the man page that only affects how deep clamav will scan
[15:52] <tylerCanada> can someone point me to a Ubuntu Sound Menu integration tutorial? I'm trying to integrate a Java app but I can't seem to find any good documentation.  Thanks!
[15:52] <acicula> so not sure if that will actually give you an error if the limits are exceeded
[15:52] <zeroburn> tylerCanada: just add it like you would a normal command to the menu
[15:53] <barnee> am i supposed to have an account to file a bug?
[15:53] <tylerCanada> zeroburn: sorry I'm rather new to this. how do I add a normal command? can you please point me to that documentation?
[15:54] <D-coy> m4v, are u there?
[15:54] <why-not> Northeren: Gnash swf viewer should work as a standalone player
[15:54] <zeroburn> tylerCanada: right click on the menu, select edit menus.... then navigate to where you wish the command be visible, click on the new item button on the right.. and type the neccesary info in the box :)
[15:55] <floogy> acicula, I think that's a protection against such doS with zip-bombs. Because of that I think they're using another approach, though I'm not sure. But zip-bombs are often used to disable av programs.
[15:55] <zeroburn> barnee: yes, you need a launch pad account.. its free
[15:55] <kunji1> zeroburn: I think he wants to integrate it with the volume control, though I don't know how to do that either.
[15:55] <simz> hi guys, how can i get my touch pad back to work again?
[15:56] <barnee> so if i had posted here with report bug it wouldn't have went to the launch pad is it? ok i will create an account there and post there.. thanks!
[15:56] <zeroburn> kunji1 and tylerCanada, exactly what do you guys mean? integrate it with the volume control?
[15:56] <simz> i install ubuntu 10.04 then my touch pad couldnt work, what should i do?
[15:56] <zeroburn> barnee: sure.. :)
[15:56] <Northernen> why-not, brilliant. Cheers, will give it a go.
[15:57] <acicula> floogy: its a safety feature for clamav, if it hits the preset limits it stops scanning. to prevent overloading the scanner indeed
[15:57] <Kolt> Hi! I just installed Ubuntu on my girlfriends sony vaio and it is running slow. Its ubuntu 11 on 64 bit 3.5GiB ram 4x2.13Ghz processor
[15:57] <why-not> good luck
[15:57] <Kolt> any ideas how to speec it up?
[15:57] <kunji1> zeroburn: perhaps like Banshee is integrated?  I don't know exactly what he wants, that's just the impression I got.
[15:57] <tylerCanada> zeroburn: when you click on the volume control you can control various media applications (Banshee, etc.) I want to accomplish the same for my application
[15:57] <acicula> Kolt: how is it slow
[15:57] <floogy> acicula, I guess they will then stop also unzipping/decompress that affected archive...
[15:57] <echo6> I have an annoying problem, headless Ubuntu 10.04, terminal text is green, tried setterm to get white text but on next reboot text goes back to green, anyone know where else I should look to fix
[15:58] <Kolt> acicula: opening any program, playing media etc...
[15:58] <PythonSnake> hi all
[15:58] <acicula> floogy: eh thats what i unedrstand from the man page yes
[15:58] <acicula> Kolt: playing media as in the playback lags? if so in what program?
[15:58] <zeroburn> tylerCanada: If your aplication uses audio, it should be added automaticaly, mine even gives me the name of wine aplications using audio...
[15:58] <floogy> acicula,  Ok, sorry I'm not a native speaker, so I eventually misunderstood you.
[15:59] <acicula> floogy: thats ok neither am i :0
[15:59] <Kolt> acicula: the problem is not whith playing media. It takes ages to open firefox or software center too
[16:00] <quidnunc> Where are per-user crontabs stored?
[16:00] <zeroburn> tylerCanada: you might try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundMenu   i just scaned through it.. but it seems like a step in the right direction
[16:00] <acicula> Kolt: ehm how long is ages, and what is the age of the laptop?
[16:00] <kunji1> zeroburn: I think they must try to use the windows equivalent and wine is handling it, because, for instance, vlc doesn't show up there for me.
[16:00] <why-not> Kolt:Can you see anything out of the ordinairy with system monitor or top ?
[16:01] <echo6> quidnunc ~
[16:01] <Kolt> acicula: Its new. Its just she didnt like windows7 :) . But with windows it was faster. Age of empires III ran OK
[16:01] <why-not> a process eating up all you resources?
[16:01] <anadon> hey, I got a whole new kind/format of a C++ error message from runtime.  it looks like this: http://pastebin.com/qaw60jeW
[16:02] <Kolt> why-not: no. Everything is at max 15% used
[16:02] <quidnunc> echo6: What is the full path?
[16:02] <tylerCanada> zeroburn: alright I'll keep looking. thank
[16:02] <quidnunc> (to the file)
[16:02] <acicula> Kolt: how long does it take to open firefox when you start up?
[16:02] <zeroburn> kunji1: yea i see.. intersting though.. it seems like only audio players show up... vlc or movie player doesnt.. but if you open the sound aplet, is shows under applications...
[16:03] <edheldil_> Hi, how can I convert SVG to PNG, keeping aspect ratio and limiting to some bounding box? rsvg-convert can't limit the BB :(
[16:03] <echo6> quidnunc: /home/${USER}/.crontab !?
[16:03] <B-r00t> anyone have problem with youtube fullscreen???
[16:03] <Kolt> acicula: 5-7 secs
[16:03] <mneptok> edheldil_: the GIMP will open SVG and save it to any supported format (including PNG)
[16:03] <MagicJ> I have a system that reports:  Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display - this stops the screen saver from working - how do I fix this
[16:03] <zeroburn> tylerCanada: read that page, if its not.. just read trough the results of http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=opera&hs=kij&rls=en&q=integrating+an+application+within+ubuntu+volume+control&btnG=Search&oq=integrating+an+application+within+ubuntu+volume+control&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0
[16:04] <kunji1> zeroburn: right, I just think he means that widget like thing with back, forward, and play/pause.
[16:04] <acicula> Kolt: that doesnt seem all that slow
[16:04] <tylerCanada> kunji1: yeah that's what I mean
[16:04] <acicula> Kolt: unless you have a ssd hardrive
[16:04] <edheldil_> mneptok:  well, I need it batch convert.
[16:04] <Kolt> with windows7 it was way less than 1 sec
[16:04] <zeroburn> kunji1: haha.. yea.. sometimes clarity can make a huge difference.. :).. seem si missunderstood.. sorry
[16:04] <echo6> quidnunc: manpage indicates there is also /var/spool/cron/crontabs which can not be edited by users
[16:05] <Kolt> acicula: with windows7 it was way less than 1 sec
[16:05] <kunji1> edheldil: you can do it in inkscape
[16:05] <bfh198> Anyone know how to use gtkpod (ipod software), I need some help with removing and adding songs with to my ipod.
[16:05] <quidnunc> echo6: The former is not actually "installed" into the crontab. The second looks more promising
[16:06] <quidnunc> Why is configuration in /var?
[16:06] <edheldil_> kunji1:  I will try, sounds suboptimal, though. Thanks
[16:06] <quidnunc> stupid
[16:06] <edheldil_> quidnunc:  you should not edit it buy hand, so it's ok
[16:07] <mneptok> Kolt: a Firefox first run will always be slow as it has to load huge libraries (e.g. xulrunner) and your profile for the first time. subsequent launches are noticeably faster.
[16:07] <acicula> Kolt: besides the startup time you dont have any performance issues?
[16:07] <zeroburn> bfh198: try http://www.gtkpod.org/wiki/Getting_started
[16:07] <why-not> Kolt:you could try preload or prelinking
[16:07] <kunji1> Kolt, Win7 probably did that thing where it loads the libraries on boot instead of when the program is started.
[16:07] <acicula> i wouldnt use prelinking, but im looking at preloading yeah
[16:08] <why-not> kolt: also use chromium for speedy startup ;)
[16:08] <why-not> althoo ff4 is way better then 3
[16:09] <edbian> why-not: ff5 is better than 4
[16:09] <kunji1> edheldil_: Sorry, didn't see that you needed to batch convert... not so sure about that..
[16:09] <edbian> if you can spot the difference
[16:09] <acicula> Kolt: there is a tool called preload in ubuntu that will precache applications of your choosing in memory, windows 7 will be doing something similar. firefox is a big program and laptop disks are notoriously slow, which is why you see the discrepency in startup time. If you start firefox, and then close it again the second time you start it it will load a lot quicker
[16:09] <why-not> aye
[16:09] <why-not> sorry i meant that
[16:09] <duvel> Hi. I've just reinstalled Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and am having serious trouble with Java interacting with Mozilla. It simply does not work. I've tried uninstalled iced6 plugin and so on and so forth. Does anyone have a relatively simple fix to this problem? Thank you in advance.
[16:09] <Kolt> why-not: I use it. :) She doesnt lik it.
[16:10] <Kolt> acicula: you were right. Thank ou Ill get it preloaded for her
[16:10] <lk> how to send messages in a LAN,I want to send a message to another computer which is use the same route,I want to know the command,thank you....
[16:10] <BluesKaj> duvel, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[16:10] <qin> lk: ping? What message?
[16:11] <acicula> Kolt: alright, good luck :)
[16:11] <duvel> BluesKaj: Yes sir.
[16:11] <Sovek> Hey everyone, How do I remove a distro and its associated profile with it?
[16:12] <lk> just like send sentence to another computer,in the same route
[16:12] <why-not> Kolt: Good luck
[16:12]  * Sovek is dual booting Linux Mint 11 and Ubuntu 11.04 ATM, but removing LM 11 since it has a number of bugs
[16:12] <Kolt> why-not: ty
[16:12] <barnee> i am still hoping to get it posted. -no need to reply-
[16:12] <qin> lk: netcat or wall or mail, in each case you need sever, message to user or program?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> ok duvel , but did you install java first , if so there could be a conflict
[16:13] <Sovek> anyone?
[16:13] <why-not> Sovek: remove LM11 partition and edit grub config
[16:13] <why-not> i would guess
[16:13] <duvel> BluesKaj: Yes, I believe java was installed before I installed the restricted extras.
[16:13]  * Sovek isn't sure how to do that
[16:13] <lk> If I can not connect to the Internet,just in the LAN
[16:13] <why-not> did you install on seperate partitions ?
[16:13] <qin> lk: server: nc -l 3333, client: nc ip_of_server 3333, now you can chat.
[16:13] <Sovek> yes
[16:14] <szal> Sovek: what profile?
[16:14] <qin> lk: Sorry, server: nc -lk 3333, -k is important
[16:14] <why-not> sovek: do you want to remove lm11 and not reinstall anything else on it?
[16:14] <why-not> and reclaim space for ubuntu
[16:15] <lk> thank you,qin
[16:15] <fdeiam> are intel graphics controllers from sandybridge processors supported under 11.04 ?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> duvel, try this , it might solve your problem , sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:16] <edheldil_> kunji1:  Inkscape can't preserve aspect
[16:16] <szal> Sovek: my take: reformat the Mint partition(s) to anything you like, then start *buntu (unless you have it started already since you're formatting from within *buntu) and run 'sudo os-discover && sudo update-grub'
[16:16] <qin> lk: You can install own irc server for lan only, so you could use the very same client you using right now.
[16:17] <Sovek> Ahhh, Ok
[16:17] <lk> thats great
[16:17] <Sovek> now, If I already have Ubuntu 11.04 installed, but want to dual boot with XP... do I have reformat and install XP first, then reinstall 11.04?
[16:18] <leka74> Hello. Anyone able to help me with emerald?
[16:18] <why-not> Sovek:if you can reinstall easy, easiest is to install xp 1st then ubuntu
[16:18] <szal> Sovek: not necessarily, but if you install Windows after Linux, you need to recover Grub
[16:18] <szal> !grub2 | Sovek
[16:19] <qin> !emerald | leka74 is mostly not developed anymore.
[16:19] <Sovek> Right, thats probably what I'll do
[16:19] <duvel> BluesKaj: Thank you. Very much appreciated. Good day to all.
[16:19] <leka74> qin, I'm looking to install a theme that is emerald supported.
[16:19] <DartmanX> question: I'm about to install linux for the first time in about 10 years. I have a laptop with a core 2 duo. Is there a particular reason I should NOT get the 64 bit edition? It says 32 bit is recommended.
[16:19] <Sovek> why-not: Can I easily take off a portion of an EXT4 partition and reformat it to NTFS?
[16:19] <why-not> Sovek:good luck
[16:20] <qin> leka74: OK, so what is problem?
[16:20] <why-not> Sovek, yup no problem
[16:20] <Sovek> right, cool\
[16:20] <leka74> I read this tutorial that allows Emerald to work in 11.04 too
[16:20] <promet> Hi, I am about to attempt a dual boot install of Windows 7 on a second drive (I know, I know) alongside my existing 11.04 install.
[16:20] <Sovek> can I read an NTFS partition in Ubuntu?
[16:20] <mneptok> Sovek: yes
[16:20] <acicula> DartmanX: not really
[16:20] <edbian> promet: What is your question?
[16:20] <why-not> Sovek, yes is also possible
[16:20] <edbian> Sovek: yes
[16:20] <Sovek> promet: DONT
[16:20] <acicula> DartmanX: unlses you know you have some 32bit 3d party app that requires 32bit
[16:20] <promet> I believe I know how to do this, but it's been awhile, so I am looking for tips/moral support
[16:20] <leka74> qin; But it's not working for me. When I type "emerald --replace" on the Terminal it gives me this: "/home/leka74/.themes/diehard/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:53: Clearlooks configuration option "sunkenmenu" is not supported and will be ignored."
[16:21] <Sovek> promet: Windows 7 and Ubuntu DO NOT play nice together
[16:21] <mneptok> Sovek: that's is patently untrue.
[16:21] <Sovek> Anytime you boot into 7 you will loose grub
[16:21] <promet> Sovek, could you be a bit more specific?
[16:21] <xangua> Sovek: top that
[16:21] <qin> leka74: Farrel theme? Is it classic or unity?
[16:21] <edbian> promet: You'll be fine.  You will loose grub. You have to boot an Ubuntu live CD to repair it.  If it's possible, remove the Ubuntu hdd and install windows ont he second hdd while only it is connected.
[16:21] <mneptok> Sovek: also untrue.
[16:21] <BernardV> Sovek: It's no problem if both drives have their own MBR and you switch with the bios boot option.
[16:21] <why-not> Sovek: I have no problems here, but win7 is on my primary partition
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> Sovek:  thats not the case for my 3 windows machines..
[16:21] <DartmanX> next question: I have an external hard drive formatted NTFS that I use on this system AND a vista system. Is the NTFS support good enough that that won't be a horrible issue?
[16:21] <xangua> promet: install wndows first and then any ther os yoy want
[16:22] <acicula> DartmanX: yes its good enough
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> DartmanX:  Linux can handle ntfs just fine.
[16:22] <promet> That is my thinking, yes
[16:22] <qin> leka74: Easiest is to start emerald via compiz (ccsm)
[16:22] <Sovek> mneptok: I had issues with my netbook and Windows 7 alongside Ubuntu 10.10
[16:22] <edbian> DartmanX: It'll be fine
[16:22] <Sovek> anytime I loaded 7 it would loose grub and I couldn't boot anything
[16:22] <leka74> qin; I tried selecting the theme from Emerald but it doesn't do anything when I click on the theme.
[16:22] <edbian> Sovek: Of course!  You can fix it though using a live CD
[16:22] <mneptok> promet: if these are 2 separate drives, unplug the Linux drive when installing Windows. Windows will put its bootloader in the MBR of the only disk it finds (its own). then you'll have to add that disk to GRUB on the Linux drive manually.
[16:23] <Sovek> Though the other guys may have a solution to that
[16:23] <promet> Well, my goal would be to have W7 installed without harming 11.04, which is already installed, noting that this is on a second drive, not a partition on the 11.04 drive
[16:23] <qin> leka74: compizconfig-setting-manager
[16:23] <mneptok> Sovek: "I had issues" is not the same as "It doesn't work for anyone anywhere ever."
[16:23] <DartmanX> next question: I have a netgear NAS that is currently running SMB, but can do NFS. Is NFS that much better than SMB that I should enable NFS as well?
[16:23] <Sovek> ahhh, then you may not have issues
[16:23] <promet> Thanks mneptok
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> leka74:  emerald is basically a dead project.  You may want  keep that in mind
[16:23] <qin> leka74: Plugin wondows decoration
[16:23] <acicula> DartmanX: windows wont support NFS without addtional packages
[16:23] <Sovek> I've been told that 7 and Linux don't play nice
[16:23] <edbian> DartmanX: NFS is linux only.  SMB is both windows and linux
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> DartmanX:  nfs can faster.
[16:23] <acicula> Sovek: you need better sources then
[16:24] <Sovek> Ok, I'm gonna go and work on getting XP loaded
[16:24] <promet> Will the W7 installer not choose a drive, or does it default to the "Master" drive that it "sees"?
[16:24] <edbian> Sovek: Windows 7 doesn't play nice with linux
[16:24] <edbian> promet: It asks you I believe.
[16:24] <DartmanX> It'll have to be both, but if NFS is faster I'd like to use it
[16:24]  * szal guesses that W7 should always be installed first
[16:24] <edbian> szal: It's easier
[16:24] <Sovek> yeah, always install windows first, then Linux,
[16:24] <Sovek> otherwise you need to recover Grub
[16:25]  * szal previously had a dual-boot setup of W7 and Linux running, but that was w/ Linux being installed 2nd
[16:25] <promet> So, theoretically, I wouldn't have to physically disconnect the 11.04 drive, just choose the "Slave" drive for the Windows install and choose that same drive as the MBR drive?
[16:25] <Sovek> thanks for the help, time to go have fun with XP
[16:25] <edbian> DartmanX: I don't think there is a noticable difference between the 2.  NFS is easier to set up IMO
[16:25] <Wiallim> Hi everybody. My Ubuntu 10.10 cpu used rate is very high. sometime over 100%. but i'm just use Document Viewer look PDF.
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> DartmanX:  nfs you dont normally mount 'on the fly' lkike you do samba shares.. You will want to set up static mount point in /media/ via the fstab most likely
[16:25] <edbian> promet: Yes but physically removing the drive removes the possibility of making a mistake.  You also have the MBR to worry about
[16:25] <DartmanX> hmmm, okay
[16:26] <DartmanX> might just stick w/ SMB then
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking ive seen nfs faster. but its hard to benchmark such things. :) if the nas is using external usb2 hd's then the hd would be a bottleneck.
[16:26] <mneptok> promet: no, you'll need to unplug it. Windows places its MBR in the first drive it finds (usually the master on the first IDE chain, or the first SATA drive). by unplugging the Linux disk, you *know* Windows can't write anything to it.
[16:26] <promet> edbian, thanks, I suppose it's wise to have a "failsafe", I will do that.
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> DartmanX:  you could always set them both up. :)
[16:26] <barnee> hi people i think i have completed this bug report, anyone wants to take a look at them? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/805143
[16:26] <edbian> promet: :)
[16:26] <abuanoname> need help back, am need support how i can able my desktop effect, am used ubuntu 10.10 instal on lenovo G460.
[16:26] <promet> Thanks guys!
[16:26] <Wiallim> firefox always high cpu rate. My CPU is AMD x2.
[16:26]  * mneptok tips his hat
[16:26] <Stef1> any iptables "guru" around that have a minute?
[16:26] <DartmanX> Dr_Willis: I will, but I have the NAS shut down automatically at night. If NFS can't handle that, I might have a problem
[16:27] <edbian> barnee: I can fix that problem.
[16:27] <abuanoname> need help back, am need support how i can able my desktop effect, am used ubuntu 10.10 instal on lenovo G460. and b 4 that have solve it, but am not archive that tutorial please help me..!
[16:27] <Dr_Willis> DartmanX:  shuts down automatically? that would be an annoyin feature in a NAS.
[16:27] <acicula> Stef1: better to just ask your question
[16:27] <barnee> oh how do you do that edbian?
[16:27] <Stef1> acicula: well, the explonation is a little bit extensive
[16:27] <Wiallim> My laptop is HP.
[16:27] <DartmanX> Dr_Willis: I have it shut down at 10:30 and restart at 5 am to save power
[16:28] <edbian> barnee: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*     This command removes the files that are causing the errors.
[16:28] <edbian> barnee: sudo apt-get update   puts new files there that aren't broken.
[16:28] <edbian> Good as new!
[16:28] <Wiallim> Can any body help me.
[16:28] <Wiallim> CPU use rate very high.
[16:28] <acicula> Wiallim: what process?
[16:28] <magpii> i am fairly new to ubuntu and need to istall sage. all the install tutorials say is a load of terminal stuff i cant understand. can someone help?
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> DartmanX:  i doubt if its using much power.  but if thats what you want. I would say samba, and access teh shares on the fly.
[16:29] <Wiallim> Sometime is firefox-bin.
[16:29] <edbian> magpii: sure... Give me a link to one and ask me questions and I'll explain what they're getting at?
[16:29] <edbian> sounds good?
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> magpii:  somedays you just have to bite down and learn some bash basics... this may be such a case.
[16:29] <Stef1> can anyone look over my port forwarding problem in iptables ? http://bit.ly/ldnIC4 thanks
[16:29] <barnee> so edbian what was the actual problem?
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> magpii:  bash is not to hard to learn. just be sure to spell correctly and get teh spaces in the right places
[16:29] <abuanoname> need help back, am need support how i can able my desktop effect, am used ubuntu 10.10 instal on lenovo G460. and b 4 that have solve it, but am not archive that tutorial please help me..!
[16:29] <Wiallim> sometimes is Document Viewer's process.
[16:29] <acicula> Wiallim: maybe some screenshots would illustrate the problem you are describing?
[16:30] <edbian> barnee: The file had a syntax error. IDK what causes it. I've seen it a lot lately.  I think ubuntu pushed out a bad copy of it.
[16:30] <acicula> abuanoname: you can enable desktop effects under appearances
[16:30] <edheldil_> ah, ImageMagick can convert SVG images as well,
[16:30] <abua> yes acicula but notsuupot
[16:30] <acicula> abua: then you need to check additional drivers to see if you need to enable a hardware driver for your graphics acrd
[16:30] <barnee> oh ok edbian. right now i am booted into windows 7, so i will restart and get that done! ubuntu 11.04 was working fine until now.. thanks!
[16:30] <abua> am have do that acicula, am need install my driver am used ubuntu 10.10 install on lenovo G460
[16:30] <edbian> barnee: sure...
[16:31] <lk> I broadcast a message in the linux OS,can the windows system receive it? the destination is use the same route
[16:31] <abua> acicula, am have do that so...
[16:31] <barnee> bbl
[16:31] <abua> acicula, may be we need / i am need to fix my vga driver
[16:31]  * edbian misses barnee
[16:31] <Stef1> hi guys, can anyone look over my port forwarding problem in iptables ? http://bit.ly/ldnIC4 (its on superuser.com) thanks
[16:31] <abua> but am don't know how to fix my driver vga
[16:32] <acicula> abua: i do not understand. have you enabled a driver via additional drivers? what graphics card do you have? did you download and install drivers yourself ?
[16:32] <gamblermc> Looking for help with wireless connection. I have tried all of the wireless troubleshooting help on ubuntu.com
[16:32] <BluesKaj> lk, broadcast message ...by what means ?
[16:32] <Wiallim> acicula: My laptop temperature somtimes over 70'c
[16:32] <magpii> is there no way of installing sage via synaptic package manager instead of having to dick around with terminal code?
[16:32] <edbian> gamblermc: what card do you have?
[16:32] <edbian> magpii: I have no idea what sage even is.  Hang on.
[16:32] <gamblermc> edbian: bmc4318, I believe
[16:32] <abua> acicula, am have install all driver an that the bad ide, couase my grafik bad
[16:32] <gamblermc> broadcom
[16:32] <dean> Hi sometimes my panel icons go funny is there a way to refresh my panel?
[16:32] <magpii> sage is an open source accounting program
[16:33] <administrator> ?
[16:33] <edbian> gamblermc: I think I can help.  Is this computer online via wired? Or some other way? We need to download packages.
[16:33] <magpii> i need it work my mates business accounts
[16:33] <edbian> magpii: http://www.sagemath.org/  ??
[16:33] <bhavesh> this is my Htop screenshot : http://i.imgur.com/ebeuV.png , it shows more than 200 processes running...
[16:33] <lk> I don`t know really,I find a command from the google,"wall < message.txt".
[16:33] <bhavesh> does it mean there's something wrong?
[16:33] <gamblermc> edbian: no but i can via a macbook im using right now, and xfer using a flashdrive
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> !find sage
[16:33] <acicula> Wiallim: if its sometimes 70C its not overheating
[16:33] <edbian> gamblermc: ok, this might be tricky.
[16:34] <dean> Dr_Willis, Didn't see you there how you doing?
[16:34] <edbian> gamblermc: the b43 driver covers that chipset (4318)  http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43/devices?highlight=%284318%29
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> dean:  3 day weekend.. all ive done basically is sleep. :)
[16:34] <gamblermc> edbian: worst comes to worst i could get a wired connection, it's just a hassle for me to right now.
[16:34] <magpii> thats the one, but everytime i download the software, i cant see it in synaptic package manager, and the install is all in terminal code
[16:34] <magpii> stick this theire, type this here, move this add that
[16:34] <dean> Dr_Willis, Alright for some lol
[16:34] <edbian> gamblermc: The wired connection will likely be less of a hassle.  But first lets check a couple things.
[16:34] <edbian> gamblermc: PM ?
[16:34] <acicula> Stef1: i dont understand your problem at all, you cant reach your local server on localip:localport ?
[16:35] <bhavesh> why are there so many processes running?
[16:35] <gamblermc> edbian: sure
[16:35] <BluesKaj> lk, perhaps you would make yourself better understood in #ubuntu-cn
[16:35] <BluesKaj> !cn | lk
[16:35] <Wiallim> acicula:really?
[16:35] <acicula> Wiallim: really
[16:36] <lk> thank you ,BluesKaj
[16:36] <abua> Wiallim, am need fix my vga problem did you can help ?
[16:36] <edbian> magpii: I'm downloading it right now to follow along
[16:36] <Wiallim> ubottu: 终于看见中文了。亲切呀。
[16:36] <dean> Dr_Willis, I dont suppose there is a way to refresh the desktop panel sometimes my icons look funny?
[16:36] <juancarlospaco> hi :)
[16:36] <Stef1> acicula: i am trying to forward 80 port to the internet (which works) but also to my local network, which i am having problems to.
[16:36] <acicula> abua: there are also native langugae ubuntu channels, maybe trying a support channel for your language might help?
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> dean:  with unity - i contantly get mesed up icons and top bar menu and graphics (of the panel and menu bar) i cant even use Unity its such a problem.
[16:37] <edbian> magpii: All we need to do is decompress.  That doesn't even require terminal.  You want me to explain terminal commands or explain gui method?
[16:37] <abua> acicula, am from indonesia, and nobaody can support me on that chanel
[16:37] <Stef1> acicula: also reaching my local webserver (which is after the linux firewall/my iptables script) doesnt work, as it doesnt seem to be forwarded correctly
[16:37] <acicula> Stef1: that does not compute, you forward incomming connections from the internet on port 80 to your local machine
[16:37] <wakoz> Guys how can i add more effects for compiz ? =)
[16:37] <magpii> i am re downloading it, i uncommpressed it before then got lost with terminal jargon
[16:37] <acicula> wakoz: in appearances
[16:37] <acicula> or Appearance rather
[16:38] <Wiallim> dean: my desktop panel about 65, is not funny.
[16:38] <Dougie187> does anyone know why panel applets are having issues loading?
[16:38] <magpii> i deleted it all thinking i had done it wrong
[16:38] <qin> magpii: Can you give linky to source?
[16:38] <magpii> ?
[16:38] <qin> link
[16:38] <acicula> Stef1: but how are you reaching your local webserver that does not work?
[16:38] <edbian> qin: http://boxen.math.washington.edu/sage/linux/32bit/index.html
[16:38] <edbian> qin: That's what he's working on.
[16:38] <magpii> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.sagemath.org/linux/32bit/index.html
[16:38] <qin> Thanks
[16:38] <edbian> qin: There is a readme there.  extract and run ;)
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> Sage is a free open-source mathematics software system licensed under the GPL.
[16:38] <dean> Dr_Willis, I am using 10.04 its like the wireless icon or the battery icon goes funny at times
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> dean:  no idea on that.
[16:39] <BluesKaj> Stef1, why are portforwarding your network to port 80, that's meant for browsers/http
[16:39] <RevSpecies116> ? sagemath is provided by Ubuntu in the repo's
[16:39] <noisewaterphd> dean, what is funny?
[16:39] <RevSpecies116> sudo aptitude install sagemath
[16:39] <Stef1> acicula: if i am trying to reach it on my lan it doesnt work (my server has 2 ethernet cards, eth0 is connected to the internet, and eth1 is connected to my local network)
[16:40] <DriversBroken> How would one configure drivers for an installation of ubuntu on an external hdd
[16:40] <noisewaterphd> dean, out of order, power menu icon disappears?
[16:40] <DriversBroken> Because I use it on different computers
[16:40] <wakoz> Guys how can i add more effects for compiz ? =)
[16:40] <noisewaterphd> dean, nvidia drivers?
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> sage seems to be weird.. it even has a virtualbox 'image'
[16:40] <RevSpecies116> And if aptitude doesn't work: sudo apt-get install aptitude, and then do the other command
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> wakoz:  check the package manager. theres some in there not installed by default
[16:40] <dean> noisewaterphd, When my laptop starts up sometimes my icons on the top right hand side such as the wireless or battery or power icon goes a bit funny? I don't have nvidia I aint that lucky lol
[16:40] <Nisstyre> yes
[16:40] <Stef1> acicula: if i type into my brwoser external ip of my network (which should get forwarded to apache server behind firewall), it doesnt reach it, because packet originiated from the local network (if i am correct)
[16:41] <noisewaterphd> dean, does logging out and back in fix it?
[16:41] <DriversBroken> wakoz:  Try compizconfig settings manager
[16:41] <DriversBroken> wakoz:  Although save everything before you do, when I used it, changing anything would cause a system hang
[16:41] <dean> noisewaterphd, Sometimes but I was wondering if there was a way to refresh the screen.
[16:41] <dean> Dr_Willis, No probs
[16:42] <noisewaterphd> dean, search ubuntu tracker, I'm pretty sure there is a bug open on it
[16:42] <Stef1> BluesKaj: i dont understand your question, i am forwarding 80 port, because i am running apache server behind my linux firewall
[16:42] <acicula> Stef1: you are only portforwarding packets comming in on intehrface ppp0 for port 80 to <localip>
[16:42] <DriversBroken> !compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:42] <noisewaterphd> dean, just by restarting X
[16:42] <magpii> why does my system have a downloads and a download folder? i download to the download folder but it doesnt show on my list of places
[16:42] <acicula> so it make sense that packets comming from a local interface for <external ip > does not match
[16:42] <dean> noisewaterphd, Restarting x?
[16:42] <noisewaterphd> which logging in and out is probably the best way for you to do that
[16:42] <Stef1> acicula: yes, and i am looking for someone that could show me how i can properly forward packets from eth1 to my local machine
[16:42] <sht> could anyone provide some general insight on as to why ubuntu may hang when doing apt-get install postfix? the server already had sendmail installed
[16:42] <sht> it sits at Unpacking postfix (from .../postfix_2.7.1-1ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb) ...
[16:42] <DriversBroken> Can anyone help me with using a portable installation of ubuntu?
[16:43] <noisewaterphd> dean, ya, so if you don't understand that, then logging out is the answer
[16:43] <Stef1> acicula: because every way i tried it basically kills my 80 traffic (i am not really skilled in the iptables, i know just the basics)
[16:43] <BluesKaj> Stef1, ok , now that you mention your server , that explains it
[16:43] <noisewaterphd> DriversBroken, you've got to be specific, how do we know if we can help?
[16:43] <dean> noisewaterphd, No probs thanks anyway
[16:43] <acicula> Stef1: you need an explicit rule that says only traffic from eth1, to externalip, and port 80
[16:44] <noisewaterphd> DriversBroken, you know that
[16:44] <giles1> hello, I keep getting a kernel oops when running virtualbox-ose on natty.
[16:44] <DriversBroken> noisewaterphd:  I use it on different computers, with both AMD and nvidia cards
[16:44] <noisewaterphd> DriversBroken, usb or livecd
[16:44] <DriversBroken> noisewaterphd:  That's the only way?
[16:44] <Stef1> acicula: i am guessing there is no way you could write that line for me? because i really have no idea :(
[16:45] <noisewaterphd> DriversBroken, I'm asking you how you do it
[16:45] <acicula> Stef1: but if you nat that you get other problems because you are natting on a local ip i think
[16:45] <DriversBroken> noisewaterphd:  I have a full, regular installation of ubuntu on an external hdd
[16:45] <noisewaterphd> DriversBroken, so what is the issue
[16:46] <DriversBroken> noisewaterphd:  Well, how would I install both amd and nvidia drivers and avoid conflicts
[16:46] <wakoz> Dr_Willis nothing changed
[16:46] <wakoz> :*(
[16:46] <noisewaterphd> DriversBroken, there is no easy way that I know of
[16:46] <giles1> hello, after upgrading to ubuntu natty virtualbox-ose is crashing with a  kernel oops
[16:46] <wakoz> there is a Burn effect that i can run
[16:46] <giles1> how can I fix it.
[16:46] <wakoz> or find
[16:46] <noisewaterphd> DriversBroken, you need to use the portable version of ubuntu, whatever that is
[16:47] <root_____> exit
[16:47] <magpii> would it be better to download the sage lzma file or the gz file?
[16:47] <noisewaterphd> DriversBroken, the full desktop edition you will have to install drivers each time you use the different machine
[16:47] <Stef1> acicula: i dont know how to get around it, because when i type in the external ip, packet goes straight to the eth1 avoiding ppp0 (and also my forwarding rule) which you probably already know
[16:47] <noisewaterphd> DriversBroken, have you considered just doing a remote home folder
[16:48] <DriversBroken> noisewaterphd:  What's a remote home folder
[16:48] <acicula> Stef1: the problem is pretty common, but the solution is rather difficult
[16:48] <noisewaterphd> DriversBroken, have a full install on each machine, but your home folder (all of your stuff) is hosted on a third machine that your other machines mount when you boot up
[16:49] <ZykoticK9> wakoz, if you're looking for more compiz stuff be sure you have the compiz-plugins-extra package installed
[16:49] <Stef1> acicula: and if i forward incomming eth1 connections on 80 port, it basically breaks the connection, because ppp0 forwarding rule forwards packets to eth1 and so on (dunno if that makes any sense, or even if i am right) the debugging that i did with logging the traffic proved usefull
[16:49] <noisewaterphd> DriversBroken, that way you still have all your same stuff you need on each machine, but no hardware issues
[16:49] <Stef1> *useless
[16:49] <pfifo> Stef1, why dont you just allow all traffic destined to port 80?
[16:49] <DriversBroken> noisewaterphd:  I can't install on any of these machines.
[16:49] <noisewaterphd> DriversBroken, hell, just set up each machine so that your home folder is on that external drive
[16:50] <Stef1> pfifo: i do allow it, but problem is forwarding it to the right machine afterwards
[16:50] <noisewaterphd> DriversBroken, oh, well I don't know then, that sucks
[16:50] <DriversBroken> noisewaterphd:  I could partition my drive and have 2 linux installs, one for amd and one for nvidia, and a third partition for data, but that would get annoying
[16:50] <pfifo> Stef1, your explaining this as if the webserver and the firewall ARE the same machine
[16:51] <Stef1> pfifo: as for the now internet traffic gets forwarded to the local machine properly, but the local traffic wont get forwarded to the right machine
[16:52] <acicula> Stef1: if you insist on being able to use the external ip you need to either proxy the service on your router(internally) either using netcat or a full proxy, or use full nat, so masq the connection from localip to your router, and from yourrouter to yourserver
[16:52] <jombo> hello, i have troubles connecting to my wifi router. i'm trying to use iwconfig, wpa_supplicant and dhclient
[16:52] <acicula> if you just mask the external ip using the localserver ip the return connections will just get dropped by the router
[16:52] <pfifo> Stef1, why do you want the local trafic to get routed anyway? make you apache listen on your local network in addition to the internet and connect via local IP address
[16:52] <DriversBroken> noisewaterphd:  Hm... ubuntu seems to have removed my nvidia driver automatically.  I guess I'll just open a terminal every time I start up and install a different driver
[16:53] <acicula> pfifo 's suggestion is probably the best really
[16:54] <acicula> you can also use dns to segment the networks, that way you can use the same server names, just the ip mappings are different
[16:54] <tata> hello all
[16:54] <acicula> jombo: do you have a gui?
[16:54] <tata> acicula
[16:54] <acicula> tata
[16:55] <tata> where do you come from
[16:55] <tata> acicula
[16:55] <Stef1> acicula: full nat? can you be a little more specifics please? pfifo: my apache server listens on the local network, but there are /will be webpages with dynamic links, which repasting them to clients or to work will prove rather difficult when i will have to replace local ip to the external ip every time i want to send something to the outside internet
[16:55] <tata> any girls
[16:55] <bazhang> tata, wrong channel
[16:55] <juancarlospaco> ʘ_ʘ
[16:56] <acicula> Stef1: use dynamic dns then , full nat means applying nat in both directions to keep track of the connections
[16:56] <tata> why??
[16:56] <edbian> ha
[16:56] <pfifo> Stef1, make an entry in your /etc/hosts to override any DNS
[16:56] <bazhang> tata, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:56] <qin> Stef1: I think you trying to build transparent firewall but you do not know this yet
[16:56] <tata> im not wrong chanell
[16:56] <bazhang> tata, this is ubuntu support only
[16:56] <tata> i know
[16:56] <edbian> tata: so ask an Ubuntu support question or help others!
[16:56] <bazhang> tata, then stop asking for girls and where people are from
[16:56] <tata> i want to question for ubuntu? can you help me?
[16:56] <Dougie187> so, can anyone help me figure out why my panel applets keep having trouble loading?
[16:57] <tata> i want to build voip??
[16:57] <KolakCC> ..
[16:57] <tata> can you tell me about voip for ubuntu?
[16:57] <qin> !ekiga | tata
[16:58] <io> !voip | tata
[16:58] <bazhang> !voip > tata
[16:58] <bazhang> tata, read those links
[16:58] <acicula> Stef1: full nat in this case means creating a rule that masq any packets from eth1, for external ip on port 80 to the internal host. but also a rule that masq the return adress from the client with the router
[16:59] <DartmanX> okay, image is downloaded and burned... anyone want to make any last second suggestions?
[16:59] <acicula> or the server will receive connections from your client and send packets to it, while your client is all, go away im talking to externalip
[17:00] <tata> how does is working voip?
[17:00] <bazhang> tata, read the links
[17:01] <Stef1> acicula: hmmm, wish i only knew a way how to simply do that, solution that pfifo: suggested seems little simpler to execute, but i dont know if its possible with my dynamic ip
[17:01] <Dougie187> the stupid clock and notification applets keep asking me if I want to delete them when I turn on my computer.
[17:01] <DartmanX> oh, last second question: does ubuntu have any sort of installer that I can point at a tar.gz or .tgz file and it will handle it?
[17:01] <edbian> Dougie187: Do you want to delete them?
[17:01] <acicula> Stef1: the external ip does not matter in this case
[17:02] <Dougie187> edbian: no. I have my panels all set up.
[17:02] <edbian> DartmanX: .tar.gz and .tgz are just compression files (like .zip) There is no guarantee you can install the contents.
[17:02] <Dougie187> it's like the clock applet, and the notification applet.
[17:02] <acicula> Stef1: if your server is called example.org, and has some dynamic ip pointing to it you set up the hosts on your clients to point example.org to 192.168.2.2 . that way example.org links will work both externally and internally
[17:02] <DartmanX> okay, making the assumption that it is a linux archive...
[17:02] <edbian> DartmanX: double click the file and it opens in archive manager cause that is all it can assume about the file.
[17:02] <edbian> DartmanX: Not that I know of.
[17:03] <Guest29657> hey guys
[17:03] <acicula> Stef1: what i meant by dynamic dns is that your dns server lies to your clients by telling example.org is at 192.168.2.2 instead of externalip
[17:03] <acicula> but that only works if you have a dns server on your localnetwork
[17:03] <sht> could anyone provide some general insight on as to why ubuntu may hang when doing apt-get install postfix? the server already had sendmail installed
[17:03] <sht> it sits at Unpacking postfix (from .../postfix_2.7.1-1ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb) ...
[17:04] <PCdoc> I get "Could not launch Adobe Reader 9.4.2. Please make sure it exists in PATH variable in the environment. If the problem persists, please reinstall the application." error, when trying to open pdf files in firefox
[17:04] <acicula> DartmanX: you can use checkinstall to make deb packages from source builds if thats what you are looking for?
[17:05] <DartmanX> acicula: specifically, I need to install IntelliJ IDEA. The only reason I'm doing this is that windows is totally farked on this machine, and I don't have forever to mess around before getting back to work.
[17:05] <edbian> DartmanX: You can double click to install a .deb file
[17:05] <DartmanX> sadly, idea is a tgz download
[17:05] <Stef1> acicula: so i should probably look more into the full nat solution? if i understand correctly adding an postrouting rule for the eth1 would probably do the tric?
[17:05] <DartmanX> and since it has literally been 10 years, to say I'm rusty is a but of an understatement
[17:06] <Stef1> acicula: and yes i am also running an dns server on my linux machine, which has basically default configuration
[17:06] <astraljava> DartmanX: I just untarred the package in my $HOME, and created a launcher in the panel that points to the executable.
[17:06] <acicula> Stef1: yeah you need a rule that says if you are masqing then you need to also masq the source ip to be your routers ip
[17:06] <acicula> DartmanX: checkinstall uses makefiles i think
[17:06] <DartmanX> if I had time to waste, I could just switch to eclipse. :)
[17:06] <acicula> DartmanX: not sure how that tgz you have is packaged
[17:07] <DartmanX> okay, thanks for the help all
[17:07] <astraljava> DartmanX: That won't work obviously for a multi-user setup, in which case I'd do the checkinstall thingie someone pointed to already.
[17:07] <PCdoc> I get "Could not launch Adobe Reader 9.4.2. Please make sure it exists in PATH variable in the environment. If the problem persists, please reinstall the application." error, when trying to open pdf files in firefox
[17:08] <BluesKaj> DartmanX, a hint , unp can extract practically any compressed file
[17:08] <Stef1> acicula: so which way do you think i should take, full nat or customizing my local dns serer
[17:08] <dimas_> i just install pulseaudio-0.9.23 in the home directory as root but the system dont access it?....ubuntu 11.04 here...do i have the move the directory somewhere else?
[17:09] <acicula> Stef1: id go the dns route
[17:09] <Stef1> acicula: i am simply looking for a way that an user with basic understanding of linux system can accomplish, as i spend almost 3 days playing with iptables basically with no result
[17:10] <acicula> Stef1: well adding a line to /etc/hosts is pretty trivial
[17:10] <blinkyb> Hi. Browsing on Ubuntu became extremely slow! I mean, browsing became jittery and the pc freezes several times. I never had this issue before!
[17:12] <noteventime> What might be making a filesystem busy but not show up in lsof/fuser? :|
[17:12] <acicula> dimas_: eh /home and /root are not used for system wide program installations, though you can store programs there
[17:12] <Stef1> acicula: yeah, though as much, but i still dont understand a way how will that work, when there is no "external.org" domain pointing to my machine, only plain ip
[17:12] <noteventime> The whole filesystem is empty
[17:12] <acicula> Stef1: ah i assumed you had an external dns name
[17:13] <Stef1> acicula: not for this machine, its only "local" dev environment for my self
[17:13] <dimas_> acicula so where should i move it?
[17:13] <oCean> noteventime: sudo apt-get install iotop then run iotop
[17:13] <acicula> dimas_: not really sure what you are trying to achieve, you should not be moving programs into the system directories yourself
[17:14] <anternat> hello all, i want tı use my ubuntu box as a music player.(my 5.1 system is connected to that pc) what is my best choice?
[17:14] <jwash> i have a problem with workspaces, i only get the top two options (show only the current workspace, and show all workspaces in x rows) not the remainder (which allows you to add aditional workspaces) http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20080324/03_25_08UbuntuWorkspace1.jpg
[17:14] <jwash> any ideas how to fix this?
[17:15] <dimas_> acicula i am trying to install a newer version of pulseaudio as i cant make it manage to use jack (in the pulseaudio provided by ubuntu)
[17:15] <Lanlost> good news so far
[17:15] <acicula> dimas_: and there are no newer versions packaged for ubuntu or by jack?
[17:15] <Lanlost> I've been copying files off like mad. Since i'ts an xbox. I'm copying off all the save games and such and I've transferred 22000 files so far
[17:15] <pfifo> jwash, I had to use some option in ccsm when I was running unity (your running unity i take it)
[17:15] <Stef1> acicula: so i am guessing i am back the square one with the full nat?
[17:16] <noteventime> oCean: That's a neat tool, thanks. How does it help me though? It doesn't seem to show any information about what filesystem is being accessed
[17:16] <jwash> pfifo: yes
[17:16] <Lanlost> it's too bad The original xbox doesn't use linux for it's main OS so I could just, you know, have my save games and such be a remote hard drive on my pc ;--)
[17:16] <acicula> Stef1: if you insist on having it yeah
[17:17] <BluesKaj> anternat, if you want full digital 5.1 stream to your DAC , then VLC  is probly your best bet
[17:17] <BluesKaj> anternat, without pulseaudio
[17:18] <Stef1> acicula: well, what are the other options, hosts file is out of the question while i dont have the external domain, that will probably the same case in the dns area
[17:18] <anternat> BluesKaj , all songs would be played on server pc right? i dont want something streaming as 5.1 system is connected on server
[17:18] <noteventime> Also, since neither fuser nor lsof want to give me anything, and the filesystem is empty I don't think the problem is with a file being accessed.
[17:18] <Stef1> acicula: so a proper full nat seems to be the only possible way how to achieve this
[17:18] <dimas_> acicula when i do apt-get install pulseaudio it give me pulseaudio-0.9.22 and there is pulseaudio-0.9.23 in the source project webpage
[17:18] <oCean> noteventime: it doesn't. But once you know the process that's doing the most i/o, in most cases I'm able to track down what that process is doing
[17:19] <BluesKaj> anternat, I'm referring to the audio digital data stream as opposed to a network stream
[17:19] <acicula> Stef1: you can use a tcp proxy on the router and redirect the connection to that, but i dont have any easy commands you can copy/paste
[17:19] <roboticc> I'm trying to do a distro upgrade, but it failed and now gives the message "upgrade from Lucid to Heron is not supported"
[17:19] <roboticc> any idea how I can restore to make the distro upgrade?
[17:20] <RevSpecies116> Lucid to Heron? Hilarious
[17:20] <dimas_> !upgrade roboticc
[17:20] <phux> where can i change the delay for "disable touchpad while typing" ?
[17:20] <IdleOne> !upgrade | roboticc
[17:21] <roboticc> @ubottu those instructions no longer work - "upgrade from lucid to heron not supported"
[17:21] <Stef1> acicula: as i have basically no knowledge of a local proxy server, i think i go with the full nat solution as i at least have some understanding of iptables
[17:21] <anternat> BluesKaj, sorry i am a noob, all i want is play the songs on my box preferabbly with a web interface
[17:22] <jwash> i installed ccsm, how do i know if it saved?
[17:22] <b0nghitter> what is the ideal ftp server for a production server?
[17:22] <dimas_> roboticc burn a cd
[17:22] <Stef1> acicula: sadly there is no one that could write those few iptable lines for me, but trial and error is my second name
[17:22] <jwash> or should i just restart and find out?
[17:22] <b0nghitter> something simple and secure
[17:22] <roboticc> dimas_ idleone   Isn't there any way short of doing a media install?  Is the distribution totally b0rked if a network upgrade fails?
[17:22] <zen> how to stop blank screen, who appear after 10 minutes, when watching movies?
[17:22] <BluesKaj> anternat, are you feed ing a digital connection to audio receiver or are you talking about  speakers connected to your pc ?
[17:23] <IdleOne> zen: disable screensaver and power management
[17:23] <ysis> Hi, have an issue regardign gnupg: I have gnupg and gnupg2 installed, but as far as I understood gnupg2 includes all functionality of gnupg. So want to remove gnupg, but this gives me dependency errors (enigmail, kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-extras-keyring, ubuntu-minimal, xubuntu-desktop).
[17:23] <zen> not working :(
[17:23] <zen> dpms disabled also
[17:24] <scaricatore> !list
[17:24] <acicula> dimas_: you can install the sourcepackage in your homedirectory and experiment with it from there without installing it as root or system wide. you will need to disable the existing pulseaudio to do that though
[17:24] <anternat> BluesKaj speakers connected to the server pc. I want all songs played on the server as server and my doze laptop are in the same room
[17:24] <acicula> ysis: means that those programs depend on gnupg
[17:25] <dimas_> acicula disable the exiting one from the repositories?
[17:25] <roboticc> dimas_ burning a CD not an option for me, sadly. faster to buy a new machine
[17:25] <acicula> (so you want it)
[17:25] <acicula> dimas_: yeah
[17:25] <ysis> acicula: But shouldn't these dependencies also be fulfilled by gnupg2?
[17:25] <s7r> how can I setup PPTP vpn server on a ubuntu box with 1 single external public IP ?
[17:25] <acicula> ysis: appearnatly not
[17:25] <acicula> s7r: you mean an openvpn server?
[17:26] <s7r> acicula: not openvpn, pptp
[17:26] <acicula> ysis: though most of those packages are just meta-packages, ie describe a group of
[17:26] <acicula> s7r: i think openvpn supports pptp connections
[17:26] <roboticc> anyone know where there are instructions on how to debug a failed distro-upgrade?
[17:26] <rcmaehl> Will someone teamviewer into my pc and fix libreofficew
[17:26] <rcmaehl> libreoffice*
[17:26] <dimas_> roboticc sorry i dont know
[17:26] <kidal> hai
[17:26] <acicula> s7r: best start on the openvpn websites, they have a bunch of howtos on various configurations to get you started
[17:26] <kidal> im kidal
[17:26] <kidal> im new here :)
[17:27] <roboticc> hai kidal
[17:27] <Stef1> acicula: just one more question, on which interface i should "focus" on, on the virtual ppp0 or the eth0, eth1
[17:27] <s7r> acicula: you mean openvpn supports PPTP ?
[17:27] <acicula> s7r: i believe so
[17:27] <s7r> i don't have to download any software such as PPTP server or something ?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> !putty | anternat
[17:27] <kidal> hai roboticc
[17:27] <kidal> how r u?
[17:27] <roboticc> good how r u
[17:27] <kidal> im fine. ^^;
[17:28] <roboticc> do you use ubuntu
[17:28] <kidal> yup but im using mini-ubuntu
[17:28] <DodgyDave> Ubuntu virgin here who needs some help.  How do I connect my digital camcorder to my laptop so that I can grab my videos ?
[17:28] <b0nghitter> i have ubuntu installed to a USB drive, when i move it from one pc to another pc, it detects the network interface as a new ethX.. how can i delete the previously detected ethX interfaces?
[17:28] <acicula> s7r: sec ill have a look on wehter its supported or not
[17:28] <rcmaehl> DodgyDave: using usb
[17:29] <DodgyDave> rcmaehl yes
[17:29] <onetwothreefour> hi i need some help in configuring a vpn connection..i have successfully connected and a tap0 interface is created with an ip 10.x.x.x . route table seems to look correct but im not able to open anything..either dns or any connection..
[17:29] <ysis> acicula: I mean, it can be that package A depends on (package B OR package C), right? Then the question would be how this is resolved exactly...
[17:30] <acicula> s7r: ehm appearantly you need pptpd and not openvpn. pptpd is in the repositories though
[17:30] <atomx> hi
[17:30] <acicula> ysis: depends, sometimes dependencies are optional, sometimes they are mandatory
[17:30] <atomx> do you use the fingerprint in Ububtu ?
[17:31] <anternat> BluesKaj yes i m on the console with putty
[17:31] <pfifo> ysis, by having 2 versions of package A, one that uses package B, and one that uses packages C
[17:31] <atomx> I try to see if it is possible to connect via fingerprint in login manager....
[17:31] <rcmaehl> 356 651 529 password Mgkd8}rhU!
[17:31] <acicula> rcmaehl: go forth and make a new password ;)
[17:31] <onetwothreefour> rcmaehl and be quick
[17:32] <juancarlospaco> ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
[17:32] <ysis> pfifo: Okay, if this is the way, than it'strange that I read about the modularized gnupg2 as being better suited for desktop environments but then find e.g. xubuntu-desktop depend on the old gnupg package...
[17:32] <acicula> onetwothreefour: post your routing tables on pastebin
[17:32] <rcmaehl> don't think this got send but ID: 356 651 529 Password: Mgkd8}rhU!
[17:33] <acicula> rcmaehl: what are you doing?
[17:33] <BluesKaj> anternat, putty for the windows pc , so you can ssh into your ubuntu server from windows and control the music..isn't that what you want to do ?
[17:33] <onetwothreefour> aticula just one moment
[17:33] <rcmaehl> acicula: wait for someone to teamviewer and fix libreoffice
[17:34] <oneliner> looks like rcmaehl is trying some permutation of the lynsis bug that causes disconnect on old home routers
[17:34] <pfifo> ysis, time will fix it
[17:34] <anternat> yes BluesKaj
[17:34] <rcmaehl> oneliner: ....
[17:34] <anternat> that is what i want actually
[17:34] <rcmaehl> oneliner: wtf
[17:35] <DodgyDave> Ubuntu virgin here (so please don't speak Ubuntu speak as I won't understand). I need some help please. How do I connect my digital tape camcorder to my laptop using ubuntu 11 ? I plug in the usb and get nothing, not even recognised as a data media
[17:35] <pfifo> ysis, sompeople have half a dozen versions of python installed so gnupg is nothing in comparison
[17:35] <rcmaehl> oneliner: how is that even related
[17:35] <BluesKaj> !ssh | anternat
[17:35] <rcmaehl> oneliner: wtf is with you
[17:35] <anternat> yes i have scp too BluesKaj
[17:35] <s7r> !pptp
[17:35] <s7r> !pptpd
[17:35] <pfifo> oneliner, hes giving credentials for someone to connect to his computer
[17:36] <oneliner> am just saying, has similar syntax
[17:36] <onetwothreefour> !vpn
[17:36] <rcmaehl> oneliner: what syntax
[17:37] <ysis> pfifo: I understand. I'm used to Gentoo dependency resolving capabilities so I'm somewhat disappointed when it comes to the packing system in Debian/Ubuntu. On the other hand I don't know enough about it to say it can't be done better...
[17:37] <BluesKaj> anternat, scp is copying in ssh
[17:37] <DodgyDave> Ubuntu virgin here (so please don't speak Ubuntu speak as I won't understand). I need some help please. How do I connect my digital tape camcorder to my laptop using ubuntu 11 ? I plug in the usb and get nothing, not even recognised as a data media
[17:37] <BluesKaj> DodgyDave, we heard you the first time ...patience pls
[17:38] <pfifo> ysis, apt comes from debian and debin prefers to have old stable packages instead of the latest stuff, its rubbed off on ubuntu.
[17:38] <RevSpecies116> DodgyDave: You may need to put your camcorder in USB mode
[17:38] <DodgyDave> sorry, new to this
[17:38] <acicula> ysis: prepackaged binaries dont have the luxury of the minimalist approach of gentoo, but then again none of the drawbacks neither
[17:38] <anternat> BluesKaj i couldnt even create a folder on server with scp, had to do it wia putty instead
[17:38] <RevSpecies116> With my camcorder, if I don't have it on DVStudio or USB mode, it will not connect to the computer
[17:38] <anternat> theer again i cannot copy my mp3 files feom laptop to server :(
[17:38] <b0nghitter> i am seriously looking at moving from debian server to ubuntu
[17:39] <DodgyDave> revspecies116 I think it defaults to that when you plug the cable in. Connects to a windows pc fine
[17:39] <BluesKaj> anternat, what's installed on the server , ubunu desktop or ubuntu-server
[17:39] <RevSpecies116> With Linux, you may have to 'force' it, dogyd
[17:39] <ysis> pfifo, acicula: It would in this case be nice to resolve the dependencies by compiling single packages in a nice system. FreeBSD has some kind of mixed system, right? Sorry, don't want to start a distribution discussion in #ubuntu
[17:39] <RevSpecies116> With Linux, you may have to 'force' it, DodgyDave
[17:40] <RevSpecies116> Is it a good brand, like Sony or Toshiba?
[17:40] <soul> hola
[17:40] <b0nghitter> i need something to make setting up apache vhosts and user accounts, and i have heard using webmin on a production machine is a bad idea
[17:40] <DodgyDave> yes, Panasonic NV-GS60
[17:40] <acicula> ysis: there is the ports system. but source building is strickyl a gentoo thing
[17:40] <anternat> BluesKaj it s server(10.0 i guess)
[17:40] <acicula> on linux systems that is
[17:40] <b0nghitter> setting up * easy
[17:40] <anternat> no desktop at all
[17:41] <RevSpecies116> <-- Looking at my Panasonic NV-GS15 -- it has a USB mode in the menu
[17:41] <ysis> acicula: Okay, maybe I'll look into ports in more detail. THanks for the clarification. I try to find a workaround for my particular problem
[17:41] <acicula> ysis: ports is for bsd only
[17:41] <acicula> or used on rather
[17:41] <BluesKaj> anternat, can you ssh into the server , ssh -X user@serverIP ... ?
[17:41] <RevSpecies116> And my Panasonic camcorder works with 10.04LTS
[17:42] <ysis> acicula: I understood that. ;-)
[17:42] <pfifo> ysis, you can apt-get source and apt-get build-dep and create your own custom packages, but if your lazy like me, having gnupg and pgupg2 both installed is the easy route
[17:42] <onetwothreefour> acicula now the openvpn daemon does not want to start..and the connection cannot be established
[17:42] <acicula> onetwothreefour: eh?
[17:42] <tonysan> How do I write a bash shell script to run parallel scripts?
[17:42] <miono> Is there a configuration-file where I can set the xset-parameters?
[17:42] <ysis> pfifo: So you can build your own packages and have them in the apt system? Nice.
[17:43] <onetwothreefour> you were the one who asked for routing table??
[17:43] <onetwothreefour> @acicula
[17:43] <anternat> BluesKaj yes i can do anthing as root
[17:43] <anternat> i am the only user,
[17:43] <pfifo> ysis, you can even upload them to launchpad in your own !PPA
[17:43] <anternat> i got some advice on suomething called subsonic
[17:43] <claviusmond> I need help adding streaming radio url's to my multimedia players, like rhythmbox, clementine... If I want to add an streaming URL from a site that only allows to play it via the embedded player, I view the page from source and copy the streaming urle from there. Is there any easier way? And, How often can that streaming url change?
[17:44] <anternat> i ll try to install it after wgetting
[17:44] <RevSpecies116> OKies, DodgyDave, looking at my camcoder - I turn it on, and press the menu button
[17:44] <acicula> onetwothreefour: yeah
[17:44] <pfifo> ysis, there is also "debdiff" patches for debian packages
[17:44] <claviusmond> can anyone paste a channel where streaming via internet on ubuntu or linux is discussed?
[17:44] <RevSpecies116> And in the 'Camera' menu, which is my top selection, I scroll down to 'USB Function'
[17:44] <Abhijit> i have installed sphinx. and i have downloaded sphinxtrain library. so how do i used that library?
[17:44] <DodgyDave> yep, 4 options, none of which seem to contain any ref to usb
[17:44] <onetwothreefour> acicula, i will first repair that ovpn daemon thing then i will come back with my prob :D
[17:45] <ysis> pfifi: Sounds good. I have some free time now and would like to dig a bit deeper into the possibilities of ubuntu. I have a growing list of issues which I might help to resolve. I'll look for some tutorial about apt first to get a better understanding.
[17:45] <RevSpecies116> Then I select the 'USB Function' selection, and set it to 'Web Camera' and not DVStudio
[17:45] <acicula> k
[17:45] <DodgyDave> hhmmmm....obviously much different, I will have to play
[17:45] <Abhijit> anyone expericed with installing sphinxtrain? sphinx?
[17:46] <DodgyDave> when you've done that is the camera seen by the computer ?
[17:46] <pfifo> ysis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[17:46] <Geekydude4> How do you compile a C file in Ubuntu 10.04?
[17:46] <raven_> how to get verbose messages of running processes?
[17:46] <acicula> ysis: unles you need a minimilast installation its more effort then its worth to shave dependencies, at best it saves you some disk space
[17:46] <Abhijit> !compile | Geekydude4
[17:46] <RevSpecies116> DodgyDave: It may really be the Camcorder playing hardball at this point - perhaps if you get the manual for the camcoder out and look for USB function?
[17:46] <DodgyDave> funnily enough....doing that now :)
[17:47] <ysis> acicula: I see your point.
[17:47] <bigpresh> Anyone ever used a Philips 6020 multi-function laser printer with Ubuntu?  I'm having a headache finding suitable drivers for it
[17:48] <pfifo> ysis, i use custom packages todo the opposite of what you do, I need several different versions installed at once
[17:48] <bigpresh> Tried using the PPD that comes on the driver disc with CUPS - all seems OK, except the printer doesn't actually *print* anything.
[17:49] <Abhijit> i have installed sphinx. and i have downloaded sphinxtrain library. so how do i used that library?
[17:49] <juancarlospaco> from Bash Abhijit
[17:49] <raven_> how to get verbose messages of running processes?
[17:49] <juancarlospaco> sphinx --help
[17:49] <ysis> pfifo: I guess this is very nice for testing and debugging.
[17:50] <bigpresh> raven_: Verbose messages from a process you're starting?  Or a verbose list of what processes are running?
[17:50] <Abhijit> juancarlospaco, command not found. i have installed sphinxtrain as per given instruction. but now how do i run it?
[17:50] <pfifo> raven_, sometimes if you send a SIGHUP it will spit out some info, but you really need to read the manpage for the program to see if it responds to any signals
[17:50] <raven_> bigpresh, running
[17:50] <jombo> I can't connect my wireless using only ifconfig, iwconfig and wpa_supplicant, can someone help please?
[17:51] <Gaara> Anyone know how to get my webcam working on 11.04 Desktop?
[17:51] <bigpresh> raven_: "ps auxw" will give you a fairly verbose list of processes running, is that  useful to you?
[17:51] <juancarlospaco> Abhijit: run python   then: import sphinx  then help(sphinx)
[17:51] <juancarlospaco> i dunno t lib
[17:51] <Abhijit> :-o
[17:51] <Gaara> I believe it's being detected as I look in terminal and it appears to detect it being plugged in
[17:51] <juancarlospaco> i use epidoc
[17:51] <Abhijit> juancarlospaco, okay
[17:52] <raven_> bigpresh, no sry things i can get from firefox-bin zb
[17:52] <MACppc> someone know how to install ONDA modem driver MW875UP a MAC without Intel chip?
[17:53] <bigpresh> raven_: Sorry?  Not quite clear on what you're looking for
[17:53] <pfifo> raven_, youll have to rerun firefox-bin from a terminal to get anything useful
[17:53] <jombo> nobody to help me setup my wireless?
[17:53] <Strav> He. Asked a question yesterday that didn't got any feedback: I was reading about stack smashing protection patch for gcc as well as the position independent executable patch for the linker and it made me wonder: is there a package repository where I can be sure that everything has been compiled with this hardened toolchain? (this would be a feature of gentoo hardened but I'd prefer to benefit of package goodness. I've  been told that
[17:53] <Strav> this along with some other "fortify" flag are kinda standard in the rpm building process... what about debian based distros?)
[17:53] <jombo> it works with any wireless manager, except i only want to do it command line style
[17:54] <MACppc> someone know how to install ONDA modem driver MW875UP a MAC without Intel chip or this will work on UBUNTO instaled ppc?
[17:54] <bigpresh> raven_: As pfifo says, starting Firefox from the terminal will likely give you some messages from it as it runs.  For lower-level stuff, you could use strace to attach to it and see what syscalls it's making, but that's unlikely to be useful to you as it's quite low-level stuff
[17:54] <Flannel> Strav: You might get more responses in #ubuntu-motu and/or #ubuntu-devel
[17:54] <R3V3> I have a problem, when I'm not logged into my account, the brightness function keys on my laptop change the brightness by 10% each time. When I'm logged in, they change the brightness by 20%. Why?
[17:55] <juancarlospaco> Stav i think its a programming question mainly (?)
[17:55] <bigpresh> MACppc: No need to repeat so soon; if someone with experience & time to help you is about, they'll answer in time :)
[17:55] <raven_> bigpresh, pfifo ok tnx
[17:55] <jombo> i've followed several tutorials, including the ubuntu documentation, but nothing works
[17:55] <bigpresh> MACppc: Bear in mind if it's a WinModem (i.e. a fake modem where a lot of the work is done by the software drivers) rather than a real modem, then Linux support is often shaky at best
[17:56] <jombo> and the worst is, I know my AP is found because xterm tells me the right IP address
[17:56] <Gaara> Need help setting up webcam, seems to be detecting the device in terminal when i plug it in, but does not seem to function
[17:56] <jombo> seriously how come it's fucking complicated to setup a wifi connection using the CLI?
[17:56] <MACppc> ok. but in site is writing that is comp. only with a Intel for MAC
[17:56] <MACppc> for that is my questions about UBUNTO(V10.10)
[17:57] <pfifo> inb4 !language
[17:57] <rcmaehl> compiz + dying + kill compiz = x restarting? <- I don't get how this end result happens.
[17:57] <TSG> MACppc, http://smxi.org/ give this site a read through and download the scrips, then exit X-desktop, login as root and run "smxi" and it will install any missing drivers
[17:58] <dr_Willis> jombo:  3 conmands last i did it.
[17:58] <Gaara> Need help setting up webcam, seems to be detecting the device in terminal when i plug it in, but does not seem to function
[17:58] <dr_Willis> !webcam
[17:58] <jombo> dr_Willis, that's what they told me on "ubuntu
[17:58] <TSG> Gaara, download cheese from repos
[17:58] <jombo> #ubuntu-fr
[17:59] <jombo> until they could not get my wifi up
[17:59] <Gaara> I've got cheese, doesn't pick it up
[17:59] <jombo> after several tries
[17:59] <jombo> dammit the dhclient part does not work !
[17:59] <dr_Willis> drivers are aften the issue. not the commamds
[17:59] <Flannel> TSG, MACppc: That smxi site explicitly says it doesn't support Ubuntu.
[18:00] <jombo> dr_Willis, it worked perfectly while i was under unity, unity-2D and gnome
[18:00] <TSG> run a search for your device and ubuntu in google search, im sure something will show up, i had the same problem with my microsoft lifecam-lx3000
[18:00] <captyler> hello, need help with ubuntu 11 04. I was trying it with virtualbox and virtualbox crashed and in its reboot showed "grub > ". I continued using ubuntu, When i shut down and turn on tomorrow  mi notebook, noticed a messag "no hard disk"
[18:00] <TSG> Flannel, oh really? I got it to work on linux mint 11 which is based on ubuntu 11.04
[18:01] <TSG> Sorry for the false info if it doesnt support ubuntu
[18:02] <juancarlospaco> lulz
[18:02] <deltree_> looking for some advice out my router/gateway, can anyone help me out?
[18:02] <Gaara> I have a Microsoft LifeCam VX-1000
[18:03] <Gaara> Does anyone know if this can be used with 11.04 Desktop?
[18:04] <captyler> i have a message "no hard disk" at turn on mi notebook. Yesterday i was using ubuntu 11 04 happily. It seems my /boot partition has not mounted. Please help
[18:04] <StevenR> captyler: does it show the grub screen?
[18:04] <dr_Willis> vbox is saying this captyler?
[18:04] <TSG> Gaara, i got that to work with lots of patching
[18:05] <TSG> vx-1000 and vx-3000 are the same
[18:05] <TSG> there is lots of threads on it
[18:05] <captyler> StevenR the only message is "no hard disk"
[18:06] <captyler> i am running with the live CD
[18:06] <captyler> can I show you some information of the disk?
[18:06] <juancarlospaco> captyler: i think its a hardware problem, if dont even try to load the grub...
[18:07] <nancynicola> ciauuuu
[18:07] <nancynicola> ciauuu
[18:07] <xelister> hi what program can one use to easly sort PICTURES, with possibility to divide pictures fastly into various classification, e.g. by date and also by country and also by theme (family/work/travel) ?
[18:07] <nancynicola> ragazzi
[18:08] <JoshDreamland> trying to print via samba, all I get is "Unable to connect to CIFS host, will retry in 60 seconds"
[18:08] <captyler> no no I was using my PC. Iam seeing with the hard disk utility the disk safely
[18:09] <captyler> but all partitions says "unknow" ¿may the disk is unmounted?
[18:10] <pfifo> captyler, your disk image is probably corrupted, have you run a fsck on the host?
[18:10] <Gaara> TSG, Mind linking me to one that has a fix? I can't seem to find any that have answers, just discussion about it.
[18:10] <juancarlospaco> captyler: Logical problem, not hardware
[18:10] <captyler> pfifo I have to mount the disk first?
[18:11] <pfifo> captyler, "on the HOST"
[18:11] <xxmmaann> hi can you help me i have a problem i cant set the resolution http://img51.imageshack.us/i/capturecrancj.png/ ?
[18:11] <captyler> juancarlospaco yes, logical
[18:12] <captyler> pfifo what is HOST?
[18:12] <juancarlospaco> xxmmaann: where it says "Auto"  choose something, like 800x600 or 1204x768
[18:12] <bigpresh> Anyone ever used a Philips 6020 multi-function laser printer with Ubuntu?  I'm having a headache finding suitable drivers for it.  I've tried using the PPD from the original (Windows-only) driver CD without success.
[18:12] <pfifo> captyler, the host is your real hardware
[18:13] <xxmmaann> i cant / only 640x400 and 320x240
[18:13] <xxmmaann> any ideas please?
[18:13] <captyler> pfifo I do the tests in the BIOS and work well my disk
[18:13] <tixo5> hey can anyone help with a networking issue? im  think its an issue with older ubuntus but not sure
[18:13] <eddvrs>  /j reddit
[18:13] <tixo5> as it works fine on 11.04 and 10.04 etc
[18:14] <pfifo> xxmmaann, run nvidia-settings as root
[18:14] <xxmmaann> ok
[18:14] <captyler> juancarlospaco Should  I mount mi disk and show the fstab file?
[18:14] <pfifo> captyler, restart your computer and boot into recovery mode, then perform a filesystem check on the partitions
[18:15] <xxmmaann> dont work / the same error
[18:15] <xxmmaann> the same problem
[18:15] <anternat> BluesKaj tahnk you very much for your time
[18:15] <pfifo> xxmmaann, you might want to try adding 'nomodeset' to the kernel line
[18:16] <xxmmaann> how can i do this?
[18:16] <pfifo> at the grub menu, press E and add 'nomodeset' to the end of the line that starts with 'linux'
[18:17] <Gaara> Someone help me install the VX-3000 driver 'gspcav1' to 11.04 Desktop?
[18:17] <RevSpecies116> pfifo: Assume xxmmaann doesn't know how to get to the grub menu when the machine starts
[18:18] <dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[18:18] <pfifo> xxmmaann, if there isnt a grub menu, just hold down shift while booting
[18:19] <xxmmaann> i can get the grub menu but i cant understand what should i do to resolve the resoultion problem
[18:19] <jonny> I need help with Memory, can anyone help me?
[18:20] <xxmmaann> ok i will restart my pc now
[18:21] <jonny> "free" in the console shows 3.5 gigs of ram but I have recently installed 7 gigs, why is this?
[18:21] <sudokill> 32 bit?
[18:21] <jonny> no i specifically installed the 64 bit
[18:21] <sudokill> if not, then enable memory remap in bios
[18:21] <jonny> Oh
[18:21] <jonny> OK I will try that, thanks
[18:22] <sudokill> ok :)
[18:22] <jonny> i might need help along way though
[18:22] <sudokill> thats all i can think of, its probably that tbh
[18:22] <pfifo> 7 billion flipflops? now thats a collection of shoes!
[18:23] <ojay> is here GIMP gurus :D lol i only need to know one very basic thing
[18:23] <sudokill> imagine the stench of 7 billion USED flipflops
[18:23] <Myrtti> can we keep to the topic please
[18:23] <jonny> lol
[18:23] <Myrtti> ojay: what specifically?
[18:24] <ojay> how i can automatically select object form the layer...like photoshop you just press shift and click layer to select the one object what is there
[18:24] <ojay> how i will do it with gimp
[18:24] <jonny> sudokill: i can't find any such option
[18:25] <sudokill> jonny it maybe a different name, im not sure
[18:25] <sudokill> different motherboad makes name things differently
[18:25] <TSG> I dont like GIMP
[18:25] <jonny> I see
[18:25] <pfifo> ojay, GIMP dosent have objects
[18:25] <BernardV> jonny: 3.5GB free isn't that bad.. That means 3.5GB is used :P
[18:25] <sudokill> jonny, thats all i can think of, if you're 100% sure its 64 bit youre using
[18:26] <ojay> pfifo anyway if you have two layers and layer 2 you have small picture how you can just select that area AUTOMATICALLY :D
[18:26] <eiriksvin> hello all, got a question, how do I make my wine programs available to all the users on my Ubuntu?
[18:26] <pfifo> sudokill, jonny run lsb_release -a
[18:26] <loongson> pmon
[18:26] <sudokill> 64 bit should recognise all your ram with no manual stuff required though
[18:26] <ojay> pfifo: you dont use lasso or other it will see that area automatically from the layer
[18:27] <pfifo> ojay, switch to that layer, use select by color to select the alpha, then C-i to invers selection? if the place that isnt the picure is all alpha of course
[18:27] <ojay> very hard to do it like that...maybe there is easier way
[18:27] <fantomas> Hi all. I can't install OpenOffice on 10.04 - it returns error: http://pastebin.com/riZTagUk Any ideas?
[18:28] <jonny> pfifo: i ran lsb_release and it sys ubuntu 11.04, codename natty... thats all
[18:28] <jonny> with -a
[18:29] <magusOTB> Every other time I boot my computer, mthe video is totally broken, like, screen is completely white with a few randomly placed black bars.
[18:30] <magusOTB> It seems to me what's happeneing is when it shuts down normally, it tries to boot normally, and fails, but when I hard-reset it when it breaks, it tries something else, which works.
[18:30] <froq> so everytime I load up CONKY, it hides all my desktop icons, yet I have it confined to a background window... anyonw know why?
[18:30] <pfifo> ojay, GIMP isnt photoshop, things are different. Tyr making a 3rd layer, all alpha, then use pencil with hardedge to make black pixels of what you want to select, then select the black area with the select by color tool. Hide  the 3rd layer and swithc back to the 2nd layer and perform your operation
[18:31] <magusOTB> pfifo: I think gimp has a freeform selection tool...
[18:31] <jonny> does it make sense these two results: free = 3605792 total mem.....    and uname -m = x86_64
[18:31] <xxmmaann> pfifo dont work
[18:31] <froq> so everytime I load up CONKY, it hides all my desktop icons, yet I have it confined to a background window... anyonw know why?
[18:31] <magusOTB> froq: CONKY?
[18:31] <strangr> CONKY?
[18:31] <pfifo> xxmmaann, that was my "idea", have nothing else that comes to mind
[18:32] <sudokill> jonny, if its 3.6GB free ram then maybe you're just using 3 odd gigs of ram anyway
[18:32] <sudokill> jonny, 7 gugs is an odd number
[18:32] <sudokill> gigs*
[18:32] <jonny> sudokill: it says thats total, 500k being used, 3m is free
[18:32] <froq> magentar_, yea yy
[18:32] <pfifo> magusOTB, that tool is unforgiving about mistakes
[18:32] <sudokill> jonny, is it an old mobo?
[18:32] <froq> magusOTB, yes yy?
[18:33] <minimec> fantomas: If you compare the openoffice package you want to install with the following link, you will see that version 1:321-7ubuntu1.1 is the version from 'ubuntu maverick' --> 10.10. Check you rsources http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openoffice&suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names
[18:33] <sudokill> maybe your mobo can only support so much ram
[18:33] <jonny> mobo??
[18:33] <sudokill> motherboard
[18:33] <jonny> well in bios it recognized all 7 gigs
[18:33] <jonny> its DDR2 ram
[18:33] <sudokill> oh ok
[18:34] <sudokill> it it odds and ends of ram thrown together? different makes etc?
[18:34] <Gaara> how do i naviage to /home/ubuntu/Desktop/webcam/gspcav1-20071224
[18:34] <Gaara> in terminal
[18:34] <jonny> kinda, i didn't really look into it that much
[18:34] <xangua> Gaara: cd
[18:34] <xxmmaann> can anyone help me to fix the resolution problem please?  http://img192.imageshack.us/i/capturecranf.png/
[18:34] <strangr> Garra, cd
[18:34] <magusOTB> Gaara: cd
[18:34] <xangua> !terminal | Gaara
[18:34] <Fonotec> gaara: cd dir
[18:35] <sudokill> jonny, there should be some memory remap type feature, look into the bios properly. if not then it could be the random types of ram im not too sure
[18:35] <sudokill> apart from that i dont know what else to suggest :(
[18:35] <Gaara> cd: home/ubuntu/Desktop/webcam/gspcav1-20071224: No such file or directory :/
[18:35] <xxmmaann> any ideas please?
[18:35] <sudokill> its not always good to mix random rams together
[18:35] <jonny> iv looked in the bios i couldn't find anything memory related, and all the ram is the same kind...   sorry thanks for helping
[18:35] <sudokill> ok
[18:35] <jonny> if anyone else could help thatd be cool
[18:35] <magusOTB> jonny: what are you trying to do?
[18:35] <strangr> if gspcav1-20071224 is a file
[18:36] <jonny> i installed ubuntu 64 bit and i want to use all 7 gigs of ram
[18:36] <jonny> but "free" only shows 3.6 gigs
[18:36] <strangr> gaara: cd /home/ubuntu/Desktop/webcam
[18:36] <magusOTB> does cat /proc/meminfo show all of it?
[18:36] <fantomas> minimec: ops, I'm on 10.10 )
[18:37] <jonny> first line of that command was "MemTotal: 3.6..blah so no
[18:37] <xxmmaann> can someone help me?
[18:37] <Gaara> Ok working
[18:38] <Gaara> And i run a script through it and it says
[18:38] <Gaara>  FATAL !! you must be root to run this script
[18:38] <RevSpecies116> xxmmaann: What did grub do when you did nomodeset?
[18:38] <Gaara> What is root? how do i be in root.
[18:38] <xxmmaann> a error
[18:38] <RevSpecies116> sudo, Gaara :)
[18:38] <minimec> fantomas: Ok then check the sources, if you have (or not) an active maverick-updates source. I would first try to go without the update source. Don't forget to reload the 'package information' data.
[18:38] <magusOTB> jonny: Are you sure it's installed properly? I'm not entirely sure that a modern dual channel system would like a number like 7.
[18:38] <xxmmaann> i edited the first option i writed /nomodested at the end
[18:39] <jonny> well it at least as 3 sticks of 2 gigs each
[18:39] <minimec> fantomas: Also universe repo has to be active...
[18:39] <jonny> *has
[18:39] <RevSpecies116> -nomodeset not /nomodeset
[18:39] <magusOTB> jonny: and where does the extra one come from?
[18:39] <jonny> its another stick, 1 gig
[18:39] <jonny> 4 slots
[18:39] <RevSpecies116> -nomodeset not /nomodeset, xxmmaann
[18:40] <magusOTB> What is your motherboard?
[18:40] <jonny> eh, im not sure
[18:41] <xxmmaann> ok i will try now
[18:41] <jonny> magusOTB: in bios i saw it recognized 7 gigs
[18:41] <fantomas> minimec: thanks for advice, I think I found how I got the problem - I had libreoffice installed, but purged today to roll back to openoffice. Found a topic on ubuntuforums.org with similar problem. The solution is to install from .deb from oo.org website. Now donwloading it
[18:41] <magusOTB> jonny: How did you install ram without consulting the manual to figure out what slots should be populated?
[18:42] <jonny> heh, i knew my board took DDR2 ram, so I bought DDR2 ram and put them in..........
[18:42] <minimec> fantomas: Ok.
[18:42] <jiltdil> any channel fo mathematics
[18:43] <magusOTB> jonny: Some boards are picky about their ram configuration. It's worth looking into if nothing else works.
[18:43] <bigpresh> jiltdil: Try /msg alis list *math*
[18:43] <magusOTB> other than that I'm not sure
[18:43] <pfifo> jiltdil, either #math or #mathematics
[18:43] <Abhijit> #math
[18:43] <jonny> alright, thanks
[18:43] <bigpresh> jiltdil: ("alis" being a Freenode channel listing/searching service)
[18:43] <jiltdil> thanks all
[18:44] <BernardV> jonny: What does "lshw -c memory
[18:44] <BernardV> jonny: say :P
[18:45] <jonny> without sudo it said 3.6 with sudo says size: 7GiB
[18:45] <xxmmaann> dont work i have a error
[18:45] <ojay> so funny that nobody doesnt know how to select fast picture from the layer with GIMP :D  not using ctrl + a or some manual lasso thingy
[18:46] <magusOTB> ojay: What are you trying to do?
[18:46] <jonny> those talking about GIMP, isn't there a #gimp channel?
[18:46] <magusOTB> Also true.
[18:46] <ojay> magusOTB:  i want to just select only picture what i have in layer
[18:47] <magusOTB> ojay: /join #gimp
[18:47] <jonny> BernardV: sorry if u didnt' see, but with sudo it shows all 7 gigs
[18:47] <ojay> magusOTB:  yes im there already
[18:47] <rcmaehl> okay terminals do not auto complete
[18:47] <rcmaehl> I've had this problem before
[18:47] <rcmaehl> It's b/c my home directory is missing files
[18:47] <rcmaehl> eg .profile
[18:47] <rcmaehl> where do I copy them from
[18:47] <xxmmaann> error "Could not apply the stored configuration for the monitor, could not find a suitable configuration of screens" any ideas?
[18:48] <magusOTB> xxmmaann: What are you trying to do?
[18:48] <Seveas> rcmaehl, /etc/skel
[18:48] <BernardV> jonny: And a "cat /proc/meminfo" also shows all 7 gigs?
[18:48] <rcmaehl> Seveas: thx
[18:48] <xxmmaann> i cant set the resolution to 1360x768
[18:49] <rcmaehl> Seveas: why doesn' the ubuntu installer create those files?
[18:49] <Seveas> rcmaehl, it does.
[18:49] <jonny> BernardV: no, that command's first line shows "MemTotal:   3605792"
[18:50] <rcmaehl> Seveas: I guess it doesn't if you already have fiels for your /home but not those
[18:51] <pfifo> ojay, what your describing can not be done in GIMP, you can always make a customization to gimp if you dont like the way it works, or install photoshop in wine.
[18:52] <xxmmaann> any ideas i i write -nomodeset at end http://img830.imageshack.us/i/fotografie0815.jpg/ i get the error http://img37.imageshack.us/i/fotografie0816.jpg/
[18:52] <xxmmaann> any ideas?
[18:52] <pfifo> ojay, and the channel for gimp is not #gimp, its on the network irc.gimp.net in the channel #gimp try there instead of freenode if you want to ask questions
[18:53] <BernardV> jonny: What does "uname -a" say?
[18:53] <RevSpecies116> bummer, xxmmaann  - the nomodeset solution didn't work...
[18:54] <RevSpecies116> xxmmaann: Actually there needs to be a space before the -nomodeset
[18:54] <jonny> BernardV: x86_64... do u want the whole line?\
[18:54] <rcmaehl> Seveas: thx
[18:54] <RevSpecies116> -generic-pae -nomodeset
[18:54] <BernardV> jonny: Nope that's what I wanted to know ;)
[18:54] <ferdrake> quiero soporte talves me pueden ayudar soy nuevo en ubuntu
[18:54] <jonny> BernardV: ok, thanks!
[18:55] <amarcolino> Hi, I want to setup user accounts and authentication via the network so it doesn't matter machines are used, users will be able to login and and gain access to their own area found on another machine. However, I would like to know how would I go about achieving this, I am currently researching ldap and maybe nfs, can someone suggest a more applicable approach? Am I on the right track?
[18:55] <ferdrake> i need help in spanish please
[18:55] <jonny> BernardV: I was running windows vista on here, and I got ubuntu 64 bit just so i could see all memory
[18:55] <jonny> BernardV: oh  yeah vista was 32-bit
[18:55] <ysis> !spanish
[18:55] <xxmmaann1> im back
[18:55] <BernardV> jonny: you could try taking out the 1GB bank, maybe the board is trying to use the banks together (that is what DDR does in the basics) and run it with 3x2GB if it will take that.
[18:55] <pfifo> amarcolino, Netboot with NFS seems to be what your looking for
[18:55] <ysis> !spanish | ferdrake
[18:55] <xxmmaann1> any ideas?
[18:56] <jonny> BernardV: ok ill try that, id prefer to use all 7 though, is there a way?
[18:57] <BernardV> jonny: Don't really know, Never tried different types of memory in linked banks..
[18:57] <RevSpecies116> xxmmaann: Actually there needs to be a space before the -nomodeset
[18:57] <BernardV> jonny: banks as in slots
[18:57] <jonny> BernardV: ok thanks, i will remove the 1 gig stick
[18:57] <ferdrake> #ubuntu
[18:57] <xxmmaann1> adding -nomodeset at grub http://img830.imageshack.us/i/fotografie0815.jpg/  get me a errog http://img37.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img37/882/fotografie0816.jpg any ideas to fix the resolution?
[18:57] <xxmmaann1> please
[18:58] <ferdrake> how to install canon ip1800 on ubuntu 11.04
[18:58] <pfifo> xxmmaann1, its actually just "nomodeset" there is no hyphen
[18:58] <ubrocks> Hi, I cannot switch between workspaces. Can somebody help?
[18:59] <xxmmaann1> pfifo: i need to write just nomodeset withowt -
[18:59] <Kuwanger> Is there a way to update a file in a tar without updating the time/permissions of the file in the tar?
[18:59] <xxmmaann1> ?
[18:59] <RevSpecies116> YOU must have a space, though, xxmmaann1
[18:59] <pfifo> BernardV, Dual Channel Memory combines the banks, DDR is Dual Data Rate, 2 different concepts
[19:00] <xxmmaann1> so is xxxxxxx nomodeset ?
[19:00] <ferdrake> any one speak spanish here?
[19:00] <jefelex> ubrocks - how many workspaces do you have defined?
[19:00] <xxmmaann1> ?
[19:00] <ubrocks> jefelex, I find all of this quite difficult. I believe I have 4 workspaces
[19:00] <xxmmaann1> :-(
[19:01] <pfifo> xxmmaann1, its actually just "nomodeset" there is no hyphen
[19:01] <jefelex> ubrocks - I guess the 4 workspaces are in your panel?
[19:01] <xxmmaann1> ok i will try
[19:01] <jonny> BernardV: it still shows 3.6 gigs
[19:02] <ubrocks> jefelex, I see four little squares in the panel, next to the trash icon
[19:02] <xxmmaann1> i need restart the pc again
[19:02] <ubrocks> jefelex, in three of them there are windows
[19:02] <jefelex> that is good - is one of them higlighted?
[19:02] <amarcolino> pfifo, just did a quick search on netboot seems achievable however does it apply when the clients have ubuntu already install? If not, would ldap and nfs work?
[19:02] <ubrocks> jefelex, three of them have an orange icon. I previously chose: Move to workspace1, 2, 3
[19:02] <carl__> lu
[19:03] <ubrocks> jefelex, the problem is that I cannot switch between those workspaces :-(
[19:03] <jefelex> and now that doesn't work?  or do you have the same 3 windows open in each workspace?
[19:04] <ubrocks> jefelex, I have three different windows open in three different workspaces, but I cannot switch between them. I remember that with previous versions I could simply click on one of them and that would show the workspace
[19:04] <pfifo> amarcolino, firs off, i have no clue about LDAP, never used it. But as for NFS, yes there is a kernel line option to mount a NFS share as the root, you could skip netbooting if you actually put grub and a kernel on the machines, but Netboot with PXELinux is pretty simple to setup and easire to maintain
[19:04] <mimico> hi, there is a bug that I am affected by, that has been filed here:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/592334 The bug has been fixed.  Does anyone know how I would go about getting the fix and applying it to my system?
[19:04] <jonny> would anyone here know why ubuntu 64 bit can't recognize all my memory?
[19:04] <jefelex> yes - it is still like that on my desktop - are you using 11.04 or some other distro?
[19:04] <ubrocks> jonny, could it be that the MB does not support all that memory?
[19:05] <ubrocks> jefelex, 11.04
[19:05] <jonny> ubrocks: iv seen in the bios 7 gigs though...
[19:05] <xxmmaann> im back/ i added nomodeset at the ond of line/ the linux starts/ but the resolution is the same
[19:05] <jefelex> good - are you using unity or gnome?
[19:05] <koustava> can anyone tell me how to install wvdial file as it is not in my system
[19:05] <jonny> ubrocks: is it possible that i can see all of it but the mb still doesn't support it?
[19:05] <ubrocks> jefelex, I'm using gnome
[19:05] <koustava> can anyone tell me how to install wvdial file as it is not in my system
[19:05] <amarcolino> pfifo, thanks for the reply will look into it
[19:06] <ubrocks> jonny, I'm running ubuntu 11.04 64-bit with 12GB RAM and it sees all of it
[19:06] <jefelex> good - I can help you, I don't use unity
[19:06] <ubrocks> :-)
[19:06] <Abhijit> koustava, sudo apt-get install wvdial
[19:06] <pfifo> amarcolino, ah, not need for LDAP with NFS, normal PAM will use /etc/passwd from the NFS
[19:06] <jonny> ubrocks: ok, i got ubuntu 64 bit just so i could see all my memory and i cannot
[19:06] <xxmmaann> and i cant set a custom resolution
[19:06] <xxmmaann> any ideas please?
[19:07] <xxmmaann> O:-)
[19:07] <koustava> Abhijit, it is not working
[19:07] <pfifo> xxmmaann, you may have to go the hard route and writte your own xorg.conf
[19:07] <rabije> hi! I installed libdvdread4 and executed the install-css.sh on ubuntu 10.04 but I still can not play DVDs , could anyone please help me ??
[19:07] <MACppc> Msg to TSG: I steaked in this site, because i have no vget, gcc etc function on my pc: have the latest update OS X 10.5.8 and canot easy install. any idea if this modem will work, because before upgrading I see them on the desktop. If not, will this worki at Ubunto V10.10?
[19:07] <ubrocks> jonny, 7GB isn't that a bit of a strage number for memory? Could it be that you should provide modules of the same type and of the same quantity?
[19:08] <KM0201> !dvd
[19:08] <jonny> ubrocks: someone suggested that and i removed a gig, now i have 6 gb
[19:08] <Abhijit> !wvdial
[19:08] <Abhijit> koustava, i think you need to enable universe repo
[19:08] <jonny> ubrocks: it still only recognizes 3.6
[19:08] <minimec> rabije: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/how-to-enable-dvd-playback-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[19:08] <ubrocks> jonny, how many memory modules do you have and of which size?
[19:08] <amarcolino> pfifo, pam can authenticate users on the server to the clients?
[19:08] <koustava> Abhijit, how to enable universe repo?
[19:08] <ubrocks> jefelex, where are you???
[19:08] <jefelex> anyway - ubrocks,  if you click on the window, nothing happens, I'm just asking so I know where you are at and what you've done to see if you can fix it yourself
[19:08] <Abhijit> koustava, in software center.
[19:09] <jonny> ubrocks, 3 x 2gb each (i have 4 slots, the other had the gig that i removed)
[19:09] <pfifo> amarcolino, no, it cant
[19:09] <KM0201> rabije: have you rebooted since executing install-css.sh
[19:09] <xxmmaann> i have a error notificatio at start "Could not apply the stored configuration for the monitor, could not find a suitable configuration of screens" / so i need write the xorg-conf manually ?
[19:09] <pfifo> amarcolino, but since the same /etc/passwd will be on both the server and clients, all the uses will be the same
[19:09] <koustava> Abhijit, how to go to software center?
[19:09] <rabije> KM0201: Yes I did it !
[19:09] <ubrocks> jefelex, yes, nothing happens.
[19:09] <xxmmaann> :-(
[19:10] <duvel> Hello. I'm back again! I'm trying to make Ubuntu my primary OS but think it would be silly if I could not get everything to work properly, so here I am. Anyone here have experience getting most/all of the functionality in the Logitech G19 keyboard to work? Please let me know, thanks in advance.
[19:10] <ferdrake> how to in on the chat room on spanish
[19:10] <KM0201> rabije: weird.. ry installing VLC.
[19:10] <Abhijit> koustava, System->Administration->Software Sources
[19:10] <ysis> !spanish | ferdrake
[19:10] <s7r> for a home computer which acts also like a server... ftp and vpn what should i select ubuntu server or desktop edition? please ?
[19:10] <ferdrake> !spanish
[19:10] <pfifo> s7r, it all comes down to if you want X installed or not
[19:11] <ubrocks> jonny, the fact that it only sees 3.6GB is very suspicious...That number is very close to 2^32, which is the max RAM that a 32-bit system can see. Have you checked on the internet your MB specifications?
[19:11] <IdleOne> ferdrake: Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[19:11] <s7r> pfifo: what is X ?
[19:11] <rabije> KM0201: Im using Tottem , i googled and nothing works for me , is there any other way fixing it ?!
[19:11] <pfifo> s7r, a graphical desktop enviroment
[19:11] <ferdrake> #ubuntu /join
[19:11] <KM0201> rabije: if you installed libdvdread4, and executed install.sh properly, dvd's should work.. try nstalling VLC and see if that helps.
[19:12] <Abhijit> :-/
[19:12] <jonny> i downloaded from ubuntu.com the 64-bit version and uname -a shows x86_64
[19:12] <Abhijit> ferdrake, /j #ubuntu-es
[19:12] <amarcolino> pfifo, ok, that is what I thought you just told me on your last post, I am trying to avoid a situation where I need to add users to the other clients via ssh, I've found a few options including yours, which is more appropriable is what I need to find out specially if in six months or sooner I have to keep adding users
[19:12] <s7r> oh ok pfifo thanks . 64 bit requests min 4GB of RAM and 64 bit CPU ?
[19:12] <jonny> ubrocks: oops, my message is above
[19:12] <jefelex> ubrocks - try ctnl alt left arrow and see if that changes your desktoop
[19:12] <ubrocks> jonny, I don't think ubuntu is your problem...Rather your MB
[19:12] <minimec> rabije: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/how-to-enable-dvd-playback-in-ubuntu-11-04/ <-- Did you try to use that package?
[19:12] <ubrocks> jefelex, ok
[19:13] <ubrocks> jefelex, nothing
[19:13] <amarcolino> pfifo, I wont disturb you any longer will attempt the option I think is more appropriate at this time, thanks
[19:13] <xxmmaann> the etc/x11/xorg-conf file is http://pastebin.com/bJLtNr5E can you help me?
[19:13] <spacebug-> s7r: 64-bit CPU yes, not 4GB RAM
[19:13] <rabije> KM0201: I already installed VLC but the problem is the same , what should i do now ?
[19:13] <Abhijit> jonny, you can crosscheck is ubuntu is your proble or not by having another distro burned to usbd and booting into its live session and then check how much ram it detects
[19:13] <jonny> ubrocks: ill look into that, id be very upset
[19:13] <s7r> but how many RAM ?
[19:13] <KM0201> rabije: no clue... i'm assuming you did not install it/set it up correctly... i would sugest going through the instructions again
[19:13] <koustava> Abhijit, then waht to do?
[19:13] <ubrocks> jefelex, brb...
[19:14] <pfifo> amarcolino, all of the clients will have the exact same files, and since user info is stored in a file, all the clients will have the same user info. Does that make sense? A password change for one user on one machine will modify the file, and it will effect all the other machines as well
[19:14] <jefelex> then all I can suggest is to logout and then back in again - that may help with the congestion of the desktop
[19:14] <Abhijit> koustava, select universe
[19:14] <jonny> Abhijit, ubrocks, I have typed in a few commands that have showed all gigabytes, would that still mean the MB can't use it?
[19:14] <tixo5> guys, is there any configuration needed for eth0 ??
[19:15] <koustava> Abhijit, community maintained open source software(universe) is clicked already
[19:15] <rabije> KM0201: Im trid this 100 times https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs is this site right  ?
[19:15] <pfifo> s7r, well a 64bit CPU is obivously required to run the 64bit version but you can get by with a miniscule amount of memory
[19:15] <KM0201> rabije:
[19:15] <KM0201> yes
[19:15] <minimec> tixo5: Basically no for a local network.
[19:15] <swecarp> i hav trubbel loging in on 11,04 hawent
[19:15] <duvel> Hello. I'm back again! I'm trying to make Ubuntu my primary OS but think it would be silly if I could not get everything to work properly, so here I am. Anyone here have experience getting most/all of the functionality in the Logitech G19 keyboard to work? Please let me know, thanks in advance.
[19:15] <s7r> ok. now a last thing .. 10.04 LTS or 11.10?
[19:15] <swecarp> have just tryed to install it
[19:16] <Abhijit> koustava, try multivers
[19:16] <IdleOne> s7r: 11.10 is not released yet
[19:16] <xxmmaann> can you help me the resolution is too low and i cant do anything http://img708.imageshack.us/i/capturecran1q.png/
[19:16] <KM0201> rabije: i would go through the "trouble shooting" section of that page
[19:16] <minimec> rabije: Again... I would try the libcss package from medibuntu http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/how-to-enable-dvd-playback-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[19:16] <koustava> Abhijit, ok
[19:16] <rabije> KM0201: OMG , I can not play my DVD and I invited friends for this film :S!
[19:16] <Abhijit> S711, 10.04 is LTS
[19:16] <MACppc> Anyone can tell me if the modem-USB for MAC based Intel(for v 10.4 or above) will work with a Ubunto V10.10?
[19:16] <jonny> the command "sudo lshw -c memory" shows all 6 gigabytes
[19:16] <s7r> 11.04 sorry
[19:17] <KM0201> rabije: well, call them and tell tem to delay coming over
[19:17] <xxmmaann> O:-)
[19:17] <pfifo> s7r, it depends, are you going with server or desktop?
[19:17] <Abhijit> S711, 11.04 is not LTS
[19:17] <s7r> desktop pfifo
[19:17] <Abhijit> s7r, , 11.04 is not LTS
[19:17] <bt> xxmmaann, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[19:17] <Belserusk> Do Richard Stallman and Linus Torvalds get along?
[19:17] <Abhijit> Belserusk, #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:18] <pfifo> s7r, 10.04 uses gnome by default and 11.04 uses unity. It can be changed but you may want to use that as a guide for choosing something that you dont have to fuss with
[19:18] <Belserusk> Abhijit, sorry
[19:18] <VectorX> hi, is there a way to set su right automatically so you dont have to keep entering the pw everytime you need to run some root command ?
[19:18] <ubrocks> jefelex, I installed compiz. Could it be that it screwed things up?
[19:18] <xxmmaann> bt: is too hard for me
[19:18] <Abhijit> !ot | Belserusk
[19:18] <koustava> Abhijit, when i am doing update in ubuntu 9 it is saying failed
[19:19] <Abhijit> koustava, you were asking about wvdial?
[19:19] <Belserusk> ubottu, ok
[19:19] <minimec> rabije: KM0201: I don't know why you ignore me. I would at least try that medibuntu package, before making your friends unhappy... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/how-to-enable-dvd-playback-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[19:19] <ubrocks> jonny, I believe so. I used to have a MB which supported only 2.9GB even if I put 4GB in it
[19:19] <koustava> yes
[19:19] <MACppc> Eeh Neo, neo for what you costruct this "Matrix"...
[19:19] <Abhijit> koustava, have you added multiverse?
[19:19] <mOHawk> yeah 11.04 looks alot like an apple OS really nice looking system in my opinion
[19:19] <KM0201> minimec: i'm not ignoring you, if you don't say my name, i don't watch every line thats typed here.... Medibuntu shouldn't be necessary in 10.04
[19:19] <koustava> sudo apt-get installed wvdial is faked again
[19:20] <spacebug-> duvel: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/configure-logitech-g-series-keyboards.html
[19:20] <Abhijit> koustava, what is the actual error?
[19:20] <minimec> KM0201: THat's why I used it now... ;)
[19:20] <xxmmaann> :-/
[19:20] <bt> xxmmaann, what ist the output of xrandr
[19:20] <duvel> spacebug: Thank you.
[19:20] <koustava> yes i have done multiverse
[19:20] <xxmmaann> what?
[19:20] <spacebug-> duvel: yw
[19:20] <KM0201> minimec: medibuntu hasn't been necessary since like 8.04.. maybe even 7.10...  you can use it if you want, but its not necessary.
[19:20] <koustava> Abhijit, some index file failed to download
[19:20] <xxmmaann> how can i see this?
[19:21] <swecarp> im  new to linux and ubuntu i have run the instalation and nowe its sasks fore user and password havent erlier set a user ore password
[19:21] <koustava> they havee been ignored
[19:21] <xxmmaann> where cn i find this?
[19:21] <koustava> or old ones used instead
[19:21] <minimec> KM0201: I agree, but it always worked. You don't need to add the repo. The libcss.deb is all you need.
[19:21] <bt> xxmmaann, oops. run xrandr command in a terminal. it should show you you're configured resoultions
[19:21] <rednammoc> hey, if i enter in cmd "date 011904142038.08" an error is returned saying "date: invalid date `011904142038.08'", "date 011904142038.07". any idea?
[19:21] <KM0201> minimec: you shouldn't even need that... thats what that install-css.sh file does, it installs libdvdcss
[19:21] <Abhijit> koustava, sudo apt-get update
[19:21] <OY1R> what's the minimum requirement to get a dxcc diploma ?
[19:21] <MACppc> quit...
[19:22] <OY1R> oh wrong chan.
[19:22] <xxmmaann> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[19:22] <xxmmaann> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 240, current 640 x 480, maximum 640 x 480
[19:22] <xxmmaann> default connected 640x480+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[19:22] <xxmmaann>    640x480        50.0*
[19:22] <xxmmaann>    320x240        51.0
[19:22] <FloodBot1> xxmmaann: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:22] <minimec> KM0201: I agree again, but ... ;)
[19:22] <koustava> same fail is happening
[19:22] <xxmmaann> ok sorry
[19:22] <rabije> minimec: this is libdvdcss2 , I have libdvdread4 installed and it doesnt work , but i dont know the difference between libdvdcss2 and libdvdread4 !
[19:22] <lucs> Is it normal that I don't find 'jaunty' here for example?: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[19:23] <Abhijit> koustava, somehow your update/upgrade system is broken. i do not know how to fix that. ask someone else
[19:23] <[THC]AcidRain> lucs. i have a jaunty image if you would like it
[19:23] <bt> xxmmaann, you have to add the higher resolutions manually. they were not autodetected. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[19:23] <minimec> rabije: Just install it. It wirks.
[19:23] <lucs> [THC]AcidRain: Er, maybe, but I
[19:23] <lucs> Oops
[19:24] <[THC]AcidRain> in my opinion 9.04 is the best
[19:24] <lucs> [THC]AcidRain: Er, maybe, but I'm especially wondering why I'm not finding it.
[19:24] <rgarrigue> Hi all
[19:24] <[THC]AcidRain> idk. im running jaunty right now
[19:24] <aleph-2> i was just wondering what this command does "sudo dpkg --configure -a" i typed it in by mistake, but can't see that anything wrong happened
[19:24] <[THC]AcidRain> that is kinda messed up they left jaunty off the list :/
[19:24] <amarcolino> pfifo, I understand that, what I don't understand is which application will keep track of the changes or make the changes to other clients. You mentioned nfs, but from my understanding it only creates the directory/user space but doesn't add any security (unless I am mistaken), at the same time if a user's account gets locked or deleted I would have like the system to update itself. In the long run having a way to manage user authentication and user s
[19:24] <amarcolino> pace on the network , which is quite small at this moment, is what I want to achieve. Maybe I am just complicating everything and not understanding what you're trying to say in which case I sincerely apologise.
[19:24] <DasEi> aleph-2: it checks for an interupted apt
[19:25] <aleph-2> DasEi: ok, thanks
[19:25] <koustava> afetr 35% it is not working
[19:26] <xxmmaann> the command xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 800x600 errorhttp://pastebin.com/5pZK4FSJ
[19:26] <xxmmaann> i cant add ah higher resolution
[19:26] <tixo5> guy how can i diagnose what i think is an ethernet driver issue? liveCD works on my laptop but not my main PC
[19:26] <tixo5> ive tried tons of stuff!
[19:27] <xxmmaann> :-(
[19:27] <tixo5> i remember having a similar issue with Backtrack 4 rc2
[19:27] <tixo5> i think its the older ubuntu versions
[19:27] <pfifo> amarcolino, they will all have the same filesystem, a change on one will be reflected on the others, you really have to try it i guess
[19:27] <koustava> Abhijit,whom should i ask?
[19:27] <mOHawk> [THC]AcidRain sorry hit wrong button was looking for shortcut to ask if 9.04 or latter have End Of Life can't remember? or does updates make it current?
[19:27] <jefelex> gotta go
[19:28] <xxmmaann> :-( im sad i cant fix the resolution problem
[19:29] <rgarrigue> How can I check on my nvidia card ? My dual screen is staying idle all the time :-/
[19:29] <bt> xxmmaann, don't know this error :( give me sec to search.
[19:29] <xxmmaann> ok sorry
[19:31] <tixo5> guys how can i diagnose what i think is an ethernet driver issue? liveCD works on my laptop but not my main PC
[19:31] <minimec> tixo5: lspci | grep net will probably give you the card you have, if it is PCI or motherboard included... For me it would be 00:05.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK8S Ethernet Controller (rev a2)
[19:31] <szal> xxmmaann: reboot & pass 'edd=on' as additional parameter to the kernel; if that fixes it, come back & you'll get instruction on how to make it permanent
[19:31] <tixo5> minimec: i have done that
[19:31] <tixo5> i know what card it is
[19:32] <tixo5> the card works fine on my Mint install, and many others
[19:32] <tixo5> it seems to be older distros
[19:32] <minimec> tixo5: And you don't find any filed bug or howto on the net?
[19:32] <tixo5> yes i have found some stuff about a bug in tg3
[19:32] <tixo5> i have tried to fix, to no avail
[19:32] <amarcolino> pfifo, thanks for being patient, I will look into what you said and hopefully get my head around it as I believe the only way to get the same exact files is through rsync...
[19:33] <minimec> tixo5: Well your on the right way. I cannot give you any further help.
[19:33] <tixo5> are you familiar with modprobe, loading modules etc?
[19:33] <truepurple> You guys helped me remove a program called avast before, and now I need to remove it again, but the line I saved for removing it isn't working
[19:33] <minimec> tixo5: Well.. sudo modrpobe yourmodule
[19:34] <szal> truepurple: exact input and output please
[19:34] <ikonia> truepurple: you where warned about the antivirus stuff
[19:34] <ikonia> truepurple: how did you install it ?
[19:34] <tixo5> minimec: basically i think the module isnt loaded, ie the driver isnt installed or isnt installed properly, i was going to compile the driver myself and install, when i found out it comes with 2.6> kernels
[19:34] <truepurple> a terminal line
[19:34] <ikonia> truepurple: which one...what was the command you used
[19:34] <tixo5> so i did, 'insmod tg3.ko'
[19:34] <tixo5> i get this messege
[19:34] <xxmmaann> i added add=on at kernel line nut the same problem
[19:35] <tixo5> 'insmod error inserting 'tg3.ko' - 1 file exists'
[19:35] <truepurple> sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation
[19:35] <truepurple> Reading package lists... Done
[19:35] <truepurple> Building dependency tree
[19:35] <truepurple> Reading state information... Done
[19:35] <truepurple> E: Unable to locate package avast4workstation
[19:35] <FloodBot1> truepurple: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <bt> xxmmaann, xrandr shows you names of of your available outputs it's either LDVS, LDVS1, VGA, VGA1 or soomthing like that. you have to use that name instead of the VGA-0
[19:35] <ikonia> truepurple: no - which command did you use to install it
[19:35] <szal> xxmmaann: if you can't even exactly reproduce what you were given, I can
[19:35] <szal> 't help you
[19:35] <truepurple> ikonia: Oh ok, one moment
[19:35] <ikonia> tixo5: do an "lsmod" sounds like it's already loaded
[19:36] <tixo5> yea but its not :S
[19:36] <tixo5> i did 'lsmod | grep tg3'
[19:36] <tixo5> nothing
[19:36] <minimec> tixo5: Try 'sudo modprobe tg3'
[19:36] <Traintop> if someone is familiar with "at"; -how can I let "at" add a file to the VideoLanClinet-playlist?
[19:36] <Madito> Hey guys! I've got a problem. I get a error message when I'm trying to download the "Ubuntu Netbook" via Wubi on my Windows machine. Anyone know anything about this?
[19:36] <ikonia> tixo5: pastebin the output of lsmod please.
[19:36] <truepurple> ikonia: I downloaded it, then used sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture avast4workstation_1.3.0-2_i386.deb
[19:36] <tixo5> minimec: also i tried that, i tried removing it, loading the broadcom one first, then loading that one
[19:36] <xxmmaann> warning: output VGA-0 not found; ignoring
[19:36] <Traintop> s/Clinet/Client/
[19:37] <ikonia> truepurple: so you installed it from an external deb - non-supported repo on the wrong architechture, not a great idea
[19:37] <tixo5> ikonia: i will boot up lappy and chat to you on there, and ill reboot this machine into the distro
[19:37] <ikonia> truepurple: you'll have to use dpkg to remove it
[19:37] <ikonia> tixo5: no problem
[19:37] <minimec> tixo5: you could check /var/log/messages or similar. Are there some messages?
[19:37] <xxmmaann> :'(:-(:-/
[19:37] <truepurple> ikonia: No it was supported
[19:37] <tixo5> i have, there is nothing for tg3 at all
[19:37] <ikonia> truepurple: no - it's not.
[19:38] <tixo5> i get this is it related
[19:38] <szal> xxmmaann: hint: it's "edd", not "add"
[19:38] <tixo5> Module tg3 does not exist in /proc/modules
[19:38] <truepurple> ikonia: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=41709.0
[19:38] <ikonia> tixo5: this shouldn't be too hard to fix, boot into your OS and we'll work it through
[19:38] <tixo5> my working mint machine on the same card, has entries in here. i was going to copy/paste the tg3 line ?
[19:38] <xxmmaann> ok
[19:38] <tixo5> ok ikonia thanks alot brb
[19:38] <aleph-2> what is the difference between "sudo apt-get upgrade" and "sudo apt-get dist upgrade?
[19:39] <ikonia> truepurple: it is not supported - it is not build and packaged by the ubuntu repos, you'll have to use dpkg to remove it
[19:39] <truepurple> dpkg?
[19:39] <ZykoticK9> aleph-2, dist-upgrade will install new version of packages (or new packages), while upgrade will not
[19:39] <ikonia> truepurple: dpkg is the package manager
[19:39] <anternat> how i see files i got with WGET? Wher are they
[19:40] <truepurple> ikonia: You mean synaptic?
[19:40] <ZykoticK9> anternat, probably in the same directory as you started the wget command in
[19:40] <ikonia> truepurple: that forum post is just someone saying they have installed it. That does not make it supported, you where warned about this when you where trying to install anti-virus software
[19:40] <magusOTB> anternat: in the directory you ran wget in, unless you specified otherwise
[19:40] <ikonia> truepurple: no - I mean dpkg exactly as I've just said
[19:40] <aleph-2> ZykoticK9: ok, which one of them shoud i use to update my system?
[19:40] <truepurple> ikonia: How do I use it?
[19:40] <anternat> thnx guys
[19:40] <ikonia> truepurple: there is documentation all over the web and man pages.
[19:40] <ikonia> truepurple: next time, I suggest you listen/follow peoples advice rather than thinking you know better
[19:40] <anternat> how do i search a specific file from command line?
[19:41] <ikonia> anternat: find / -name $filename -print
[19:41] <AAIBB^> hey I am using sudo gedit /ect/vsftp.conf but it opens a blank (new) file and shows some warnings. What did i do wrong?
[19:41] <ZykoticK9> aleph-2, honestly the "safest" would be to install aptitude and use the command "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade", BUT dist-upgrade is the same as the GUI update manager does.
[19:41] <anternat> ty ikonia
[19:41] <truepurple> ikonia: Hey its not like that and if your not going to help, at least dont lecture
[19:41] <ikonia> AAIBB^: check if the file exists
[19:41] <AAIBB^> it does exist
[19:41] <xxmmaann> im back /i added edd-on but the same problem
[19:41] <ikonia> truepurple: I have helped, I've explained why you are in this situation, and what to do to fix it, while also suggesting next time you listen to experiencved advice
[19:42] <xxmmaann> :-(
[19:42] <VectorX> is there a way to login to ubuntu so you dont have to keep using sudo to run commands ?
[19:42] <ikonia> AAIBB^: gksudo gedit /ec/vsftpd.conf
[19:42] <ZykoticK9> AAIBB^, also you should use "gksu gedit ..." instead of "sudo gedit ..."
[19:42] <truepurple> ikonia: Exactly what advice are you speaking of?
[19:42] <AAIBB^> what the difference between gksudo and sudo?
[19:42] <ikonia> truepurple: I've explained why it can't be seen by apt, and explained that you'll have to use dpkg to remove it and why you'll have to use dpkg to remove it
[19:42] <ikonia> AAIBB^: one for graphical, one for not
[19:42] <ZykoticK9> !gksudo | AAIBB^
[19:42] <xxmmaann> any ideas?
[19:43] <juancarlospaco> ZykoticK9: sudo do-release-upgrade --sandbox # its the option to SandBox an upgrade
[19:43] <ZykoticK9> juancarlospaco, sorry no idea, good luck.
[19:43] <AAIBB^> TBH also the vi showed it an empty file but thanks
[19:43] <truepurple> ikonia: If you don't tell me what advice I am supposedly ignoring, then at least stop going on about it please
[19:44] <xxmmaann> O:-)
[19:44] <ikonia> truepurple: the advice that you don't need antivirus products, and you certainly shouldn't have used software from outside the repos
[19:44] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, have you tried using "sudo apt-get remove avast<TABKEY>"?
[19:44] <truepurple> ikonia: Bullshit, antiviruses are a legitimate part of linux, so don't give me that crap
[19:44] <ikonia> truepurple: it certainly is, but not for the uses you want at the time
[19:44] <Myrtti> truepurple: the language is uncalled for
[19:45] <AAIBB^> its still loading an empty file.
[19:45] <truepurple> OH geez, so much holier then thou speaking...
[19:45] <subone> I have setup my computer to automatically connect to wireless at boot, but i cant remember how and i need to move it to a new install, what are the different ways to accomplish this, because its not setup in network/interfaces
[19:45] <ikonia> truepurple: as explained to you at the time, antivirus isn't needed on linux due to how the permissions system works and how virus works, antivirus on linux is really only used for tools such as file servers and mail servers to stop windows clients getting virus, rather than the host linux system
[19:45] <truepurple> Myrtti: English is called for
[19:45] <MAxLimit> hi
[19:46] <xxmmaann> i should reinstall x server?
[19:46] <MAxLimit> I'm a programmer and i
[19:46] <xxmmaann> O:-)
[19:46] <truepurple> ikonia: Please just drop it
[19:46] <ikonia> truepurple: also installing software from outside the repos can be a problem situation for Ubuntu, due to the situation you are having,
[19:46] <ikonia> truepurple: you asked what advice you'd ignored, I'm just re-explaining it
[19:46] <amarcolino> pfifo, sorry to disturb just wanted to share this link which I believe is what you were trying to explain and achieves what I want, http://abhishekdelta.wordpress.com/2010/08/15/quickly-configuring-an-ldap-nfs-client-in-fedora/, 'NFS assured that no matter in which of those 6 machines the user logs in, he will always see the same files in his home directory and same..."
[19:46] <AAIBB^> the error message states GtK-WARNING **: attempting to set the premissions of '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel' but failed: no such file or directory
[19:47] <MAxLimit> I'm a programmer and i'd like to contribute with open source projects.. where should i start
[19:47] <truepurple> ZykoticK9: <TABKEY> you mean that line, or what does that mean?
[19:47] <xxmmaann> ;-)
[19:47] <bt> xxmmaann, try "xrandr --output default --mode 1024x768" (or whatever resolution)
[19:47] <froq> how do I disable flash hardware acceleration on ubuntu 10.10
[19:47] <oCean> !contribute | MAxLimit
[19:47] <ikonia> froq: flash doesn't have hardware acceleration
[19:47] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, TAB is used to autocomplete some things - but i'm finished helping you, after your little a-v outburst a few lines ago.  Best of luck.
[19:47] <ikonia> froq: flash is "dumb" in that respect and just uses what xorg will allow
[19:47] <sudokill> vdpau?
[19:48] <froq> ikonia, okay... well then when I use flash in Firefox, it leaves reminantes behind on my desktop, and the only way I can get ride of them is to logout... any idea?  I figured it was related to hwardware acceleration.
[19:48] <ikonia> froq: how did you install flash ?
[19:48] <xxmmaann>  bt: not work
[19:48] <froq> via apt-get
[19:48] <gridbag> What does the nvidia app mean: "This driver is activated but currently not in use."  It seems like I am using it.
[19:49] <pfifo> Amaranth, read this more closely "4) An NFS server ( IP : 10.0.0.126 ) which has the user home-directories of all users inside /webteam folder." im talking about making more than just /home a NFS, im saying to make all of / NFS, LDAP would not be needed in this case
[19:49] <LAvalanche> froq: right click in the flash content -> Settings -> uncheck Hardware Acceleration
[19:49] <truepurple> ZykoticK9: Your calling "please just drop it" a outburst???
[19:49] <tixo5> ikonia: im just reinstalling the distro incase i messed too much with it
[19:49] <pfifo> amarcolino, read this more closely "4) An NFS server ( IP : 10.0.0.126 ) which has the user home-directories of all users inside /webteam folder." im talking about making more than just /home a NFS, im saying to make all of / NFS, LDAP would not be needed in this case
[19:49] <froq> LAvalanche, where is that at?
[19:49] <pfifo> Amaranth, disregard that
[19:50] <froq> LAvalanche, nvm ... dumb Q
[19:50] <AAIBB^> also sudo vi /ect/svftpd.conf is showing an empty file, so my path must be specified wrong. Yet the file clearly is in the /ect/svftpd.conf location
[19:50] <io> AAIBB^: /etc not /ect
[19:50] <LAvalanche> froq: and you are right, it is the nvidia stuff that leaves this stuff on your desktop
[19:51] <xxmmaann> bt: dont work  /any idea?
[19:52] <anternat> how do i play an mp3 file on my server
[19:52] <anternat> from bash
[19:52] <froq> LAvalanche, so it is related to using nvidia drivers?  .... huh.. anything I can do besides disable hardware acceleration?
[19:52] <anternat> i use putty
[19:52] <xxmmaann> i cant set ahigher resolution
[19:52] <AAIBB^> io: thanks.. but still same error.
[19:52] <pfifo> amarcolino, what I am referencing is my dealings with this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[19:53] <xxmmaann> O:-):-/:-(;-)
[19:53] <tixo5> ikonia: would not installing a bootloader via install wizard have any adverse effects? i just run update-grub from my other distro
[19:53] <truepurple> ZykoticK9: Weren't you on when we figured out which line worked?
[19:53] <LAvalanche> froq: you could try to update your nvidia drivers. it looks like a driver bug to me
[19:53] <bt> xxmmaann, no
[19:54] <ZykoticK9> truepurple, please stop highlighting me - hopefully someone else can help you, so address the channel.  good luck.
[19:54] <truepurple> I thought you were on then, if you can remember the command
[19:54] <Douggle> Hi I m trying to do a Wubi install and it installs fine on the windows side, But, when I boot into the installation i get the error no root filesystem is defined
[19:54] <AAIBB^> ah nice another typo. thanks guys
[19:54] <Douggle> how would i fix this?
[19:54] <xxmmaann> bt: i need reinstall x server?
[19:55] <froq> LAvalanche, per System > Adm > Add. Drivers, I have the most up to date... any other way to update drivers? or check for updates?
[19:55] <AAIBB^> it was clearly vsftpd.conf instead of svftpd.conf
[19:55] <LAvalanche> froq: I haven't tried to reactivate it for a long time. Might be still broken. I think you can at least reset/remove this artifacts without  a logout
[19:56] <xxmmaann> O:-):-/
[19:56] <froq> LAvalanche, ok.. I will look into it.  thz
[19:56] <oCean> xxmmaann: stop that please
[19:56] <xxmmaann> ok sorry
[19:56] <kate_r> hi
[19:56] <LAvalanche> froq: I think you just have to tune the display color in the nvidia utility and the artifacts go away - but this is just a workaround
[19:56] <kate_r> whta's a good image backup utility like time machine?
[19:56] <xxmmaann> i need reinstall ubuntu :-(
[19:57] <truepurple> I used that tab thing, but it said it had like 168 possible ways to finish the line, going through the list most of these aren't even close
[19:57] <DasEi> kate_r:
[19:57] <DasEi> !info unison
[19:57] <truepurple> and now how do I exit out of the list?
[19:57] <pfifo> truepurple, press Q
[19:57] <bt> xxmmaann, don't know if reinstall will help. you have to add the higher resolutions manually as described in the link earlier. but i can't explain it better than the link.
[19:57] <kate_r> DasEi, but unison synchronises files and doesn't take images of the disk
[19:58] <th0r> kate_r: the best way to image a disk is probably dd
[19:58] <xxmmaann> can you give me that link?
[19:58] <froq> the definite weakness w/ ubuntu (& linux) is the whole driver support side of things.
[19:58] <xxmmaann> again please
[19:58] <truepurple> Sorry, I mean 1646
[19:58] <Douggle> Any ideas on why wubi throws this unable to detect root filesystem error when trying to boot into the install made by windows
[19:58] <DasEi> kate_r: I see, what do you want ? a whole image ? dd then (idk time machine, so I'm not sure)
[19:59] <bt> xxmmaann, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution.
[19:59] <xxmmaann> ok thanks
[19:59] <kate_r> ok i'll try dd
[19:59] <bt> xxmmaann, read the whole article, compare it with your config files and you will figure it out :)
[20:00] <pfifo> kate_r, try this out http://mark.koli.ch/2009/05/howto-whole-disk-backups-with-dd-gzip-and-p7zip.html
[20:00] <xxmmaann> ok
[20:00] <LAvalanche> froq: this stuff is closed so the community can't fix it (nvidia/adobe have to do it)
[20:00] <beastlyOne> Hello, I need to know how to access the .(file) area of ubuntu?
[20:00] <ikonia> beastlyOne: what exactly do you need to access ?
[20:01] <beastlyOne> My minecraft application data?
[20:01] <pfifo> beastlyOne, `cd ~/.minecraft`
[20:01] <kate_r> thanks
[20:01] <truepurple> Would someone please help me figure out how to remove this program?
[20:01] <DasEi> beasty: either cd there in terminal or press ctrl+h in explorer
[20:01] <ikonia> truepurple: you need to use dpkg to remove it
[20:02] <froq> LAvalanche, yeah, i know, it is just a big bummer... they really leave us out in the rai.
[20:02] <truepurple> ikonia: I tried sudo  dpkg -r avast4workstation and it didn't work
[20:02] <beastlyOne> Alright, that did it. Thank you!
[20:02] <ikonia> truepurple: is that the package name ? have you searched to see what the package is called in the dpkg database ?
[20:03] <truepurple> ikonia: How do I do that?
[20:03] <danielgrant> hey
[20:03] <ikonia> truepurple: again, with dpkg
[20:03] <danielgrant> can someone please help me?
[20:03] <truepurple> ikonia: Again, how?
[20:03] <danielgrant> im having no luck with 5 different linux systems now
[20:03] <ikonia> danielgrant: if you ask a question, we can try
[20:03] <ikonia> truepurple: look at the reference material for dpkg
[20:03] <danielgrant> they each have different problems
[20:03] <ikonia> danielgrant: we can help you with ubuntu linux only
[20:03] <tixo5> ikonia: im ready
[20:03] <truepurple> ikonia: Where is that?
[20:03] <ikonia> truepurple: on the web
[20:04] <ikonia> truepurple: the man pages
[20:04] <io> truepurple: '$ man dpkg'
[20:04] <subone> anyone have an answer for my networking question?
[20:04] <truepurple> ikonia: man page? A link please
[20:04] <danielgrant> my internet keeps dying
[20:04] <ikonia> tixo5: lets go, lsmod output in a pastebin please
[20:04] <tixo5> damn, its hard for me to output on a different machine ? :S
[20:04] <th0r> truepurple: how did you install that program?
[20:04] <ikonia> truepurple: man pages on on your system "man $command"
[20:04] <danielgrant> i browse the net for less than 5 mins and it keeps crashing, i have to restard to get it back
[20:04] <ikonia> tixo5: ah, does that machine not have any internet ?
[20:04] <pfifo> truepurple, http://linuxreviews.org/man/dpkg/
[20:05] <tixo5> no thats what im trying to fix?
[20:05] <tixo5> hehe
[20:05] <vlt> danielgrant: Describe what exactly happens
[20:05] <ikonia> tixo5: my apologies, missed that part.
[20:05] <danielgrant> my internet keeps dropping when im on firefox
[20:05] <ikonia> tixo5: ok first things first, what network card is this ?
[20:05] <tixo5> Broadcom NetLink BCM57780
[20:06] <tixo5> its something to do with the tg3 module i think
[20:06] <ikonia> tixo5: ok - do you know for certain that tg3 supports that ?
[20:06] <vlt> danielgrant: Describe what exactly happens. "Kepps dropping"?
[20:06] <ikonia> !broadcom ~ tixo5
[20:06] <ikonia> oops
[20:06] <edbian> I think it is not supported
[20:06] <danielgrant> my internet dies
[20:06] <tixo5> im running Mint, ubuntu 11.04 and other on the same machine
[20:06] <ikonia> !broadcom | tixo5
[20:06] <ikonia> edbian: I don't think it's tg3 supported
[20:06] <edbian> http://www.google.com/search?q=bcm57780&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[20:06] <danielgrant> i have to restard my laptop to get it to reconnect
[20:06] <edbian> Google has dire results
[20:06] <ikonia> tixo5: check out that link that ubottu has sent you
[20:06] <yanty> hi
[20:06] <edbian> yanty: whatup
[20:06] <yanty> trying to do an upgrade
[20:07] <yanty> sudo do-release-upgrade Checking for a new ubuntu release Failed Upgrade tool signature Failed Upgrade tool Done downloading             extracting 'jaunty.tar.gz' Failed to extract Extracting the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server.
[20:07] <tixo5> i have looked at specific links for the exact model
[20:07] <tixo5> okok 1 min
[20:07] <vlt> danielgrant: What does "ifconfig" say?
[20:07] <yanty> any idea what it could be?
[20:07] <tixo5> ikonia:  that link isnt for my driver, nor am i looking to fix wifi
[20:07] <edbian> yanty: That release is dead.
[20:07] <edbian> yanty: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Ubuntu_9.04_.28Jaunty_Jackalope.29
[20:07] <danielgrant> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr b8:70:f4:5b:60:dd
[20:07] <danielgrant>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[20:07] <danielgrant>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[20:07] <danielgrant>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[20:07] <danielgrant>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[20:07] <FloodBot1> danielgrant: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:07] <danielgrant>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[20:07] <edbian> yanty: the servers for it no longer exist.
[20:07] <ikonia> tixo5: no, but the process is the same (to a certainl extent)
[20:08] <ikonia> tixo5: I may have hit the wrong factoid, but lets work it through
[20:08] <tixo5> ok thanks
[20:08] <edbian> yanty: Still there?  Why is it you're running such an old version?
[20:08] <ikonia> tixo5: I don't think that your card is supported under tg3 -
[20:08] <tixo5> ikonia: like i said, it works fine in older ubuntus, i know the module tg3.ko is on the system
[20:08] <ikonia> tixo5: does your card work in any of the linux distros you're running, mint/ubuntu/other
[20:08] <tixo5> ikonia: it works 100% fine on all other distros
[20:08] <yanty> I just never upgraded
[20:09] <ikonia> tixo5: what version of mint are you running ?
[20:09] <yanty> edbian: I just never upgraded
[20:09] <froq> LAvalanche, I disabled compiz and that also helped. just an FYI to ya.
[20:09] <edbian> yanty: silly yanty!  upgrades are recommended :)
[20:09] <tixo5> this isnt mint, my issue is with ubuntu 9.04
[20:09] <edbian> yanty: Do you have a lot of personal files stored on this machine?
[20:09] <ikonia> tixo5: no - I know it's not mint, I'm asking for reference information
[20:09] <danielgrant> am i unmuted?
[20:09] <yanty> edbian: sort of
[20:09] <tixo5> ikonia: the distro is Samurai WTF
[20:09] <yanty> edbian: do I need to make a clean install
[20:09] <tixo5> based on ubuntu 9.04
[20:09] <pfifo> danielgrant, yes
[20:09] <ikonia> tixo5: that's not ubuntu ?
[20:09] <edbian> yanty: pretty much
[20:09] <irule> hi I am trying to setup a chilli hotspot, the instruction ask me to "modprobe tun" but latest ubuntu says modprobe.conf is deprecated, and modconf does not have kernel/net/tun listed, whats up?
[20:09] <DasEi> danielgrant: I can read you
[20:10] <tixo5> yes its ubuntu 9.04
[20:10] <ikonia> tixo5: you just said it was samurai
[20:10] <yanty> edbian: I hate it that I have to upgrade all the time
[20:10] <edbian> yanty: You should save all your personal files (your home folder pretty much).  Then just reinstall with a new CD 11.04 or the latest LTS.
[20:10] <tixo5> ikonia: why are we nitpicking lol, its called samurai, its just ubuntu 9.04 with custom apps
[20:10] <kuix> ola boys ;)
[20:10] <edbian> yanty: Try a different distro :)
[20:10] <Douggle> hello? Does anyone have experience with the wubi installer ? i m having issues?
[20:10]  * edbian edbian ducks
[20:10] <ikonia> tixo5: we don't support it then - we don't support custom spins/derivatives
[20:10] <ikonia> tixo5: use the samurai support resources
[20:10] <yanty> edbian: maybe debian is a bit more lasting?
[20:10] <tixo5> ikonia: dude cmon, its an issue with the base not the apps
[20:11] <ikonia> tixo5: sorry - no
[20:11] <tixo5> ikonia: there arent any
[20:11] <nit-wit> Douggle, what is the problem?
[20:11] <Jasper_> can anyone tell me how to create a mbr, since my installation of ubuntu forgot to install one.
[20:11] <ikonia> tixo5: we can't help then
[20:11] <pfifo> irule, what exactly are you trying todo? (im not fimiliar with waht you mean by chili hotspot)
[20:11] <edbian> yanty: Debian releases are more like 3 - 5 years.  Ubuntu is every 6 months
[20:11] <tixo5> ikonia: its an ubuntu driver issue, how is it not related....
[20:11] <edbian> yanty: Distros like arch are rolling which means you never have to upgrade major releases
[20:11] <DasEi> Jasper_: mbr or grub ?
[20:11] <tixo5> there are documented bugs on it
[20:11] <ikonia> tixo5: I apprceciate that, but we don't support 3rd party spins
[20:11] <tixo5> ikonia: ill get you a link
[20:11] <ikonia> tixo5: don't need a link thanks
[20:11] <edbian> Of course, other distros are offtopic here :/
[20:11] <tixo5> ikonia: its an ubuntu bug man
[20:11] <tixo5> ikonia: i just need help with it
[20:11] <Douggle> okay the installer goes thru just fine, but when i boot in to complete the installation i get the following error, Unable to detect root file system, Please select the partiton manager or something along thos elines"
[20:11] <ikonia> tixo5: you've not using ubuntu - we don't support custom spins, sorry.
[20:11] <Jasper_> DasEi: mbr
[20:12] <tixo5> okok
[20:12] <tixo5> ikonia: ive got ubunut 9.04, the issue is the same
[20:12] <ikonia> tixo5: no you've not
[20:12] <edbian> yanty: You could always go to the Ubuntu LTS releases which last 3 years
[20:12] <tixo5> yes i do
[20:12] <ikonia> tixo5: please don't get smart and start telling lies
[20:12] <blz> Douggle:  obvious question... did you define a / partition?
[20:12] <tixo5> your being stupid to be fair, its ubuntu related very much so
[20:12] <tixo5> well i got excited for the help
[20:12] <yanty> edbian: the problem is that generally latest releases consume more memory and stuff
[20:12] <tixo5> anyone else not too busy?
[20:12] <ikonia> tixo5: it's the rules - we don't support custom spins, sorry .
[20:12] <tixo5> im not asking you to support it
[20:13] <Douggle> i tried to access the partition manager and it gave me an unable to Import Xauthorization
[20:13] <ikonia> tixo5: you are. you're asking for help with it
[20:13] <tixo5> im asking for help with a tg3 bug in ubuntu
[20:13] <ikonia> that is support
[20:13] <tixo5> no man
[20:13] <ikonia> tixo5: you're not using ubuntu, sorry. Please stop now.
[20:13] <nit-wit> Jasper_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[20:13] <tixo5> i am
[20:13] <DasEi> Jasper_: if you have no mbr, you're missing a partitontable, so need to reinstall, what do you mean forgot mbr ? pc won't boot then
[20:13] <blz> tixo5:  what are you using?
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> theres always askubuntu.com
[20:13] <edbian> yanty: software in general grows as hardware grows. Be happy that linux software grows much much slower than MAC or Windows software.
[20:13] <tixo5> look, where else can i go to find someone willing to look it over
[20:13] <ikonia> tixo5: you are using Samurai distro - based on ubuntu, not ubuntu, we don't support it. Please stop asking now
[20:13] <edbian> yanty: There's really no avoiding the slight bloat over the years.
[20:14] <nit-wit> Douggle, where are you putting the wub install?
[20:14] <tixo5> ikonia: there is 1500 ppl here, your not the only one willing to help, carry on helping someone whos actually using ubuntu then
[20:14] <edbian> yanty: bloat perhaps isn't even the right word in linux.  'Addition of features' I'd call it.
[20:14] <blz> tixo5:  I'd look on your distribution's website.  I'm sure they have a "help" or "support" section
[20:14] <yanty> edbian: ok, anyways thanks for the info you guys :)
[20:14] <tixo5> blz:  no there is no
[20:14] <edbian> yanty: sure
[20:14] <Jasper_> DasEi: indeed it says there is no bootable device available, since there is no mbr it can't find one. I installed ubuntu with a usb stick.
[20:14] <yanty> see ya!
[20:14] <edbian> yanty: There is only 1 of me btw
[20:14] <ikonia> tixo5: no - stop asking now. This is your last warning
[20:14] <tixo5> blz: ikonia there is NO issue with their distro
[20:14] <tixo5> the issue is with tg3
[20:14] <Douggle> atm its on D:\ubuntu but it gives the same error if its on C:\ubuntu
[20:14] <blz> tixo5:  then that's a good reason to switch distros =/  You might also see if there's a relevant section on the ubuntu forums.
[20:14] <DasEi> tixo5: there is ##linux, also
[20:15] <blz> tixo5:  which distro are you using?
[20:15] <nit-wit> Jasper_, did you see the linkfor reloading the mbr.
[20:15] <tixo5> DasEi: i guess ill try there, as its soooooo offtopic
[20:15] <yanty> edbian: just so that your ego doesn't blow up :D
[20:15] <pfifo> tixo5, why not just install the latet ubuntu? Your card will probabally just work and we have all the same apps as your 3rd party distro
[20:15] <tixo5> blz: Samurai
[20:15] <edbian> yanty: :)
[20:15] <xxmmaann> i installed arandr but the same problem i cant apply a higher rezolution / when i set a higher resolution the screen is too 'big' i need move mouse to move the screen
[20:15] <tixo5> pfifo: the card works fine in older ubuntus
[20:15]  * edbian is the best thing that ever happened to this planet.
[20:15] <tixo5> i want to use this distro
[20:15] <oCean> tixo5: enough, drop the discussion now
[20:15] <ikonia> tixo5: enough now. Please.
[20:15] <tixo5> i know it can be fixed in 5 min
[20:15] <DasEi> Jasper_: so you rather should try to reinstall grub, if the install finished
[20:15] <tixo5> with somebody who knwos how
[20:15] <DasEi> !grub
[20:16] <xxmmaann> O:-)
[20:16] <DasEi> first link ^ , Jasper_
[20:16] <anternat> how do i check my sound card properties
[20:16] <pfifo> xxmmaann, write a xorg.conf file and be done with it
[20:16] <storrgie> Hey I am using the STA driver with my BCM4311 but network manager wont show it!!!
[20:16] <truepurple> When it says "dpkg -l | --list" does it mean to write either side of  "|"?
[20:16] <Jasper_> DasEi: i'll try
[20:16] <ikonia> truepurple: just -l should do it
[20:16] <DasEi> Jasper_: you need that usb-live again, but the tut is very handy, else ask
[20:16] <ikonia> truepurple: it's explaining that -l is the same as --list
[20:16] <storrgie> https://gist.github.com/1062507
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  | is a bash featuer to pipe output from oen command to another.
[20:17] <xxmmaann> pfifo: is too hard
[20:17] <KM0201> storrgie: so try the b43 driver?
[20:17] <edbian> storrgie: Can you get on a wifi network?
[20:17] <storrgie> the driver is apparently loaded, but network-manager wont display it
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  but in the bash man pages/help its means  'or'
[20:17] <edbian> storrgie: I can help.  I am very sure.
[20:17] <storrgie> edbian: i dont know how to do it without network-manger
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  -l is the same as --list in that case
[20:17] <storrgie> KM0201: how do i install that?
[20:17] <edbian> storrgie: Ok.  The card isn't showing networks in the applet?
[20:18] <KM0201> storrgie: wait, is your network applet not showing?.. thats just a simple matter of atting indicator applets to the panel
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  short 'arguments' use one dash, the more readable long arguments use 2.
[20:18] <edbian> storrgie: I don't think that driver is working at all then.  sudo iwlist scan    shows wifi networks in the CLI
[20:18] <storrgie> edbian: yes, i cannot even see the card under network-manager... it just shows my ethernet. would you like a screenshot?
[20:18] <edbian> storrgie: I understand the problem.  run iwlist scan
[20:18] <edbian> storrgie: no screenshot necessary
[20:18] <truepurple> Dr_Willis: I see, BTW do you know what command ended up working last time?
[20:18] <KM0201> storrgie: ok, so then you're wireless isn't working
[20:18] <storrgie> lemme gist, one moment
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  i dont even rember what 'last time' was about.
[20:18] <pfifo> xxmmaann, it might be tedious, but thats not a reasonable excuse, at least youll get more support asking about what options do what
[20:18] <KM0201> !b43 | storrgie
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  im lucky to rember my own name half the time.
[20:19] <truepurple> Dr_Willis: Removing AVAST
[20:19] <ikonia> truepurple: I've told you waht to do
[20:19] <edbian> storrgie: We will get to the guide KM0201 posted
[20:19] <truepurple> Dr_Willis: Last night
[20:19] <ikonia> truepurple: search for it in dpkg for the package name, then remove that pacakge name
[20:19] <storrgie> https://gist.github.com/1062513
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> I installed avast yesterday.. never removed it. yet. :)
[20:19] <storrgie> looks like its not even available as an interface
[20:19] <edbian> storrgie: alright the STA driver is not working
[20:19] <edbian> storrgie: That's right it's missing.  Are you online using eth0 ?
[20:19] <KM0201> bingo bango
[20:19] <storrgie> yes i am
[20:19] <edbian> KM0201: bingo
[20:19] <KM0201> lol
[20:20] <truepurple> ikonia: No you gave me something to research for myself, I am asking someone if they remembered what actually worked. Assuming I figure out how to do what you suggest, it still may not work
[20:20] <edbian> storrgie: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[20:20] <storrgie> so b43?
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  ive had the sta driver not work  for some of my cards also.. had to use the other drivers.. but i dont recall what drivers they eere.
[20:20] <edbian> storrgie: Yeah we'll use b43
[20:20] <ikonia> truepurple: it will work
[20:20] <edbian> Dr_Willis: b43 is used for 4311
[20:20] <truepurple> Dr_Willis: What ubuntu do you have installed?
[20:20] <storrgie> lemme remove STA
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  yea. I had a similer card on an older laptop
[20:20] <pfifo> xxmmaann, run `nvidia-xconfig` to get a starter file, with any luck it will work without modification
[20:20] <ikonia> truepurple: and if it doesn't it will give useful errors as it's the base package manager.
[20:20] <edbian> storrgie: sure.  I was gonna get to STA next
[20:20] <edbian> Dr_Willis: I have the exact same card on an old dell b130
[20:20] <edbian> Dr_Willis: ohhh dell :)
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  using Lubuntu+kubuntu-desktop+ubuntu-desktop+enlightment+fluxbox+other things...
[20:20] <tixo5> ikonia: if i install 9.04 will i get the support?
[20:21] <ikonia> tixo5: no
[20:21] <sktn07> how to get same assistance of idm(internet download manager of windows) in ubuntu 9.10?
[20:21] <KM0201> Dr_Willis: edbian i've never gotten the STA driver to work w/ the 4311... always had to use b43, even though the wiki says the the 4311 works w/ STA and the b43
[20:21] <tixo5> ikonia:  why??
[20:21] <storrgie> ok installing now
[20:21] <ikonia> tixo5: 9.04 is EOL
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> !eol | tixo5
[20:21] <xxmmaann> ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[20:21] <edbian> KM0201: I wish the wiki wasn't misleading.  Why even bother getting two drivers working for the same chipset?
[20:21] <tixo5> jokes :S
[20:21] <danielgrant> hey
[20:21] <truepurple> Dr_Willis: What are you using avast on?
[20:21] <edbian> storrgie: did you install the firmware?  We need that firmware to use b43, many people don't know that.
[20:21] <KM0201> edbian: i know, i know.. i've ha that complaint sever times.. especially regarding the 4311
[20:21] <danielgrant> my wireless internet keeps cutting out on ubuntu 10.04
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  they rewrote them to be better code.
[20:21] <edbian> storrgie: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[20:21] <edbian> Dr_Willis: STA is better?
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  using Lubuntu+kubuntu-desktop+ubuntu-desktop+enlightment+fluxbox+other things... <--------------------------------------  Lubuntu + other desktops i isntalled
[20:22] <xxmmaann> i cant set a higher resolution  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvbfmLIRSlU
[20:22] <pfifo> xxmmaann, run it as root 'sudo nvidia-xconfig'
[20:22] <tixo5> is there any better resource for me than ##linux?
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  i think it was a lot of code clean up. But i got rid of that laptop. so i havent tried sta in ages.
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> tixo5:  askubuntu.com
[20:22] <danielgrant> im using a toshiba satelite c660
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> tixo5:  ubuntu forums.
[20:22] <ikonia> tixo5: this channel is not a yellow pages, you've not even asked in ##linux yet, o I suggest you start
[20:22] <sktn07> how to get same assistance of idm(internet download manager of windows) in ubuntu 9.10?
[20:22] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: that is for uubntu - not for custom distros
[20:22] <danielgrant> theres same problem on windows 7, something to do with power saver...
[20:22] <xxmmaann> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[20:22] <ikonia> ubuntu even
[20:22] <KM0201> lol, yellow pages
[20:22] <storrgie> edbian: should I restart?
[20:22] <edbian> KM0201: Dr_Willis In regards to b43  you almost always have to install firmware-b43-installer to get the firmware for the card.  Why doesn't Ubuntu put that as an update?  Or make it auto-install?  I can't tell you how many people I've helped do it.
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> ive not even heard his original problem... :)
[20:22] <xxmmaann> is ok?
[20:22] <tixo5> ikonia: i didnt want to ask without checking if it was the best place thats all
[20:23] <storrgie> edbian: I'm guessing a restart is required
[20:23] <edbian> storrgie: sudo modprobe b43  (after you did the firmware)
[20:23] <pfifo> xxmmaann, now as root 'sudo restart gdm'
[20:23] <danielgrant> there was no problem with ubuntu 11.04 other than devede not working
[20:23] <ikonia> tixo5: this channel is for ubuntu support, not channel directories,
[20:23] <edbian> storrgie: restart not necessary but would achieve the same thing as the modprobe.
[20:23] <oCean> truepurple: 'grep' works as a filter, you can use it to search for a certain string. So running  dpkg -l | grep -i ava  will return all package names with that string in it
[20:23] <KM0201> edbian: yea, i've helped several w/ it also... but i think because the firmware is "non-free"... i could be wrong
[20:23] <tixo5> ikonia: your attitude stinks :(
[20:23] <danielgrant> which is what i need, and fedora wont accept any pluggins for internet
[20:23] <edbian> storrgie: you did the firmware right?
[20:23] <danielgrant> like flash, etc
[20:23] <storrgie> edbian: hey hey
[20:23] <storrgie> edbian: :D
[20:23] <edbian> KM0201: That's why it's not distributed
[20:23] <edbian> storrgie: I'm good huh?
[20:23] <ikonia> tixo5: you're inability to drop a subject is the issue here - you've not taken the hint
[20:23] <storrgie> edbian: you have paypal you saved me about 2 hours I would like to donate to you
[20:23] <edbian> KM0201: But it's in the repos!  Why can't it be an update?  Maybe that's distributing too?
[20:23] <storrgie> edbian: PM me
[20:23] <KM0201> edbian: well, thats probably why it's not instaled by default i guess.
[20:23] <ninjah> anyone know anything about iplog
[20:23] <ninjah> ??
[20:23] <edbian> storrgie: hahah, no thanks
[20:24] <edbian> volunteering is fun :)
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  i thought the 'addational drivers' tool installed those.. but   i could be wrong.
[20:24] <edbian> KM0201: fact remains. It's a mystery to new users
[20:24] <KM0201> edbian: not saying i disagree,.. just saying why aren't the "restricted" Nvidia drivers activated by default?
[20:24] <storrgie> edbian: I would like to buy you a beer though
[20:24] <KM0201> edbian: totally agree
[20:24] <edbian> Dr_Willis: does it?  That thing is buggy IMO
[20:24] <LAvalanche> truepurple: not sure if this is correct - but you could give it a shot: sudo dpkg -r avast4workstation
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> I really wish they could include the nvidia drivers. I have to fight to install to my nvidia systems to much.
[20:25] <mrdeb> Dr_Willis: on which distros
[20:25] <truepurple> oCean: I put "grep -i ava" and nothing happened, not even a new command line
[20:25] <ikonia> truepurple: what is the exact command you are running
[20:25] <truepurple> ikonia: I just said
[20:25] <anelevoli> i've added PPA xorg-edgers in a hopeless attempt to defeat the A4Tech mouse bug in Ubuntu 10.10. Now all i can see on my screen is some crippled 800x600. How can i downgrade all the packages i've upgraded from xorg-edgers ppa to their "default" versions?
[20:26] <ikonia> truepurple: please put on 1 line the exact command you are running
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> mrdeb:  on most every ubuntu release in the last 3 reeases, and most variants.  they hate my nvidia cards due to driver and/or plymouth issues. I have to use nomodeset  to install.. then fix the drivers/install them  befor i can even get to a useable desktop
[20:26] <xxmmaann> i have the same problem when set a higher resolution http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvbfmLIRSlU
[20:26] <nexion-> hey guys.. I love ubuntu, just not the desktop version as it's loaded with way too much crap I won't use.. is there something (other than server) that gives me a clean ubuntu install allowing me to apt-get all the stuff I need?
[20:26] <truepurple> ikonia:  grep -i ava
[20:26] <oCean> truepurple: that's weird it should return many packages, like avahi daemon, java packages etc.
[20:26] <ikonia> truepurple: that's not a valid command
[20:26] <oCean> truepurple: combine both commands:    dpkg -l | grep -i ava
[20:26] <ikonia> truepurple: as oCean explains you have to pipe dpkg thorugh grep
[20:27] <edbian> minimal?
[20:27] <LAvalanche> anelevoli: try ppa-purge
[20:27] <truepurple> oCean: Put "dpkg -l | grep -i ava" as a command?
[20:27] <alex421> hello friends. i was wondering if there is possible to set up ubuntu's network card power settings so when i set my laptop into sleep mode, it won't reset my network PPPOE connection. i have dynamic ip and i want to keep it untouched for a while without a router if you know what i mean. thanks!
[20:27] <pfifo> xxmmaann, ohh your using xrandr
[20:27] <ikonia> truepurple: looks better
[20:27] <oCean> truepurple: yes
[20:27] <truepurple> How do I get a command line in the terminal again?
[20:27] <h1gh> nexion-: xubuntu?
[20:27] <ikonia> truepurple: you're already at it
[20:27] <anelevoli> LAvalanche, thank you
[20:27] <ikonia> truepurple: where did you type grep -i before ?
[20:27] <truepurple> ikonia: In a terminal window
[20:27] <xxmmaann>  pfifo: so , what should i do?
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> $ dpkg -l | grep -i avast
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> ii  avast4workstation                     1.3.0                                          avast! antivirus for Linux
[20:27] <Dr_Willis>  
[20:27] <h1gh> !xubuntu | nexion-
[20:28] <ikonia> truepurple: that is a command line
[20:28] <truepurple> ikonia: and now that terminal window has no command line in it
[20:28] <pfifo> xxmmaann, remove xrandr (or learn how to use it on your own)
[20:28] <ikonia> truepurple: that IS the commmand line
[20:28] <LAvalanche> truepurple: sudo dpkg -r avast4workstation
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get remove avast<TABKEY>                  fills in the name. :)
[20:28] <nexion-> hm.. I was thinking something even more clean
[20:28] <ikonia> truepurple: the terminal you're using is a command line interface
[20:28] <nexion-> just the base system with apt-get
[20:28] <nexion-> without preinstalled GUI
[20:28]  * edbian feels great for helping storrgie
[20:28] <edbian> :)
[20:28] <xxmmaann> pfifo: how can i remove that?
[20:29] <truepurple> ikonia: But there is no command prompt line within that terminal now!
[20:29] <ikonia> truepurple: control + c
[20:29] <truepurple> ikonia:  No "@myubuntu:~$"
[20:29] <edbian> nexion-: This is something called a minimal CD.  It allows you to pick packages at install time.
[20:29] <ikonia> truepurple: did that work?
[20:29] <edbian> nexion-: I've never used it.  I heard about it the other day
[20:29] <h1gh> !minimal | nexion-
[20:29] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  this is when it would be worth while to spend an hr reading through some basic bash tutorials.
[20:29] <truepurple> LAvalanche: That doesn't work
[20:29] <nexion-> oh cool
[20:30] <pfifo> xxmmaann, I think you may be more comfortable with the software center, but theres always dpkg and apt-get from the cli
[20:30] <ikonia> truepurple: stop trying to jump the gun - do what I've said and you'll get there properly
[20:30] <nexion-> I will look into that.. thanks :)
[20:30] <Argorok> Hi, does anyone use Mercurial? I need helo and explanation of some things
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:   sudo apt-get remove avast<TABKEY>                  fills in the name and can remove that avastworkstation
[20:30] <shadow696> www.shadowforums.org GO CHECK IT OUT!!! NEWEST FORUM OUT THERE ALL HACKING/MODDING/COMPUTERS/PROGRAMMING!!!! DOING HUGE GIVE AWAYS AT 100 MEMBERS !!!! MAKE SURE UR HERE BEFORE WE DO THE GIVEAWAYS!!!
[20:30] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: apt won't get it as he installed it outside of apt
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  odd.. the package i saw/downloaded from it.. was a .deb
[20:31] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: how did you install it ?
[20:31] <pfifo> did someone say giveaways? is the free bacon?
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> avast4workstation_1.3.0-2_i386.deb
[20:31] <anternat> how do i install sound card drivers for live value 5?
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> from their download page
[20:31] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: sorry, I mean how did you physically install it onto the machine, dpkg or apt ?
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> sudo dpkg -i foo.deb   i belive.
[20:31] <xxmmaann> xrandr is the gnome resolution switcher?
[20:32] <truepurple> Dr_Willis: tab does complete it to avast4workstation if I input enough, but the command does not find the program for removing it
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> can apt even do a .deb ? :) i dont recall ever doing it that way
[20:32] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: maybe it should see it, but we'll get there if he runs the dpkg command we can see if it's there
[20:32] <Aurios> do you people know a good Ubuntu Tutorial for Noobs from A to Z?
[20:32] <ikonia> truepurple: just work it through, do the dpkg command you've got and see what it turns up - that's specific to your machine, we can find any problems then
[20:32] <ikonia> Aurios: https://help.ubuntu.com
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> !manual | Aurios
[20:32] <Aurios> i would like to learn to use Linux/Ubuntu
[20:32] <Aurios> thanks!
[20:32] <xxmmaann> pfifo: :' xrandr is the gnome resolution switcher? sistem /preferences/ monitirs
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> Aurios:  and lots and lots of reading. :)
[20:33] <pas> hi i have the problem with audio hdmi for my pc .... don't run
[20:33] <pfifo> xxmmaann, it is optional
[20:33] <pfifo> !info xrandr
[20:33] <Aurios> @Dr_Willis: I think i will suceed at this :D
[20:33] <pfifo> !info xrandar
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> avast scaned 3gb of files in 3 min. :) may as well keep it installed here for a extra scanner to scan my windows shares.
[20:34] <xxmmaann> pfifo:  i think i cant save the resolution setting withowt it
[20:34] <Dr_Willis> Aurios:  if you are at the bookstores look for books in the bargin bins. :) look for books on the fundamentals like on Bash,vim, awk, and regular expressions.. :)  keep them in the 'loo' and read them every morning.
[20:34] <xxmmaann> removing it can fix the problem?
[20:34] <xxmmaann> because i cant set a higher resolution fron nvidia-setting
[20:35] <Traintop> Hi Folks! -I just got my AlarmClock working; but the "at" command in sometimes more than a minute late... -can this be adjusted by parameters to atd?
[20:35] <Traintop> s/in/is/
[20:35] <xxmmaann> whenn i try set a higher resolution from nvidia i get the same problem
[20:35] <pfifo> xxmmaann, nvidia wants direct control of your display
[20:35] <pas> hi i have the problem with audio hdmi for my pc .... don't run ... i can try ... but nothing ...
[20:35] <ikonia> Traintop: probably your clock drifting, sync your clock
[20:35] <xxmmaann> ok i will remove it
[20:35] <xxmmaann> now
[20:36] <Traintop> ikonia: I see the local-clock on my monitor
[20:36] <ikonia> Traintop: look at the system time with the "date" command
[20:37] <xxmmaann> in software center ?it is not installed?
[20:37] <Traintop> ikonia: it's the same; my clock is ok; but when e.g. I set a job in atd for "21:30", the mp3-file mostly starts a 21:31,20
[20:37] <xxmmaann> i cant find it using synaptic
[20:37] <Traintop> so, atd is more than a minute inaccurate
[20:37] <ikonia> Traintop: I wonder if that's just lag of starting the application
[20:38] <Traintop> ikonia: it's just vlc :-)
[20:38] <ikonia> Traintop: test it, make the first thing it does is touch a file, see if that happens on time, then change it to the alarm clock
[20:38] <Traintop> normally open up in 1 sec :-)
[20:38] <pfifo> xxmmaann, libxranr2
[20:38] <pfifo> xxmmaann, libxrandr2
[20:38] <ikonia> Traintop: that way you know if the problem is at or the process it's trying to run
[20:38] <Traintop> ikonia: ok, that's an idea :-)
[20:38] <ikonia> Traintop: I suspect it's the process
[20:39] <stowoda> is ist possible to scan a document and print it the way a photocopier would do it?
[20:39] <stowoda> I have got a scanner and a printer
[20:39] <drake01> hi guys, I m trying to build gtkmm's latest version using jhbuild and facing the errors while building  its glib depecdency any solutions!!!
[20:40] <daniel> \0034 hi
[20:40] <stowoda> I mean: the printer dont print the whole page instead it leaves some free space around the picture
[20:40] <ikonia> drake01: install the correct dependency
[20:40] <stowoda> omg, wht a complicated question..
[20:41] <xxmmaann> pfifo: i cant find it in synaptic
[20:43] <drake01> ikonia: jhbuild kindaa  does all the things like fetchin latest source files from repositories along with sourcecode of dependencies ( in this case glib). It fetched the required source files itself for glib too.
[20:43] <ikonia> drake01: ok - so the problem is with the code then,
[20:43] <pfifo> xxmmaann, `sudo apt-get purge libxrandr2`
[20:45] <xxmmaann> it cant find it i have a error
[20:46] <pfifo> xxmmaann, wow, ok, what did you do to your system?
[20:46] <Gaara> Ok..I'm a total newbie here.
[20:46] <Gaara> How do I install Flash for my Chromium on 11.04?
[20:46] <Gaara> I don't even know how to install things normally, can anyone take me through it? I would be incredibly grateful.
[20:46] <xxmmaann> i installed a nvidia driver from official site but that dont work so i installed back the old driver 260
[20:46] <mrdeb> Gaara: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:46] <pfifo> Gaara, install the package 'flashplugin-installer'
[20:47] <pfifo> xxmmaann, OHHH no wonder why nvidia-settings isnt working
[20:48] <pfifo> xxmmaann, what graphic card do you have?
[20:48] <thedude1> i am trying to get an external dvd drive working on my netbook but nothing happens. can anybody help me?
[20:48] <xxmmaann> nvidia geforce6100 nforce405
[20:48] <Gaara> Thanks :)
[20:48] <pfifo> xxmmaann, `sudo apt-get install nvidia-current`
[20:49] <mrdeb> pfifo: isnt it glx
[20:49] <icecream4RUSswee> hi
[20:49] <anternat> how do i install sound card drivers for live value 5?
[20:49] <xxmmaann> i aleready installed nvidia curent driver from sistem/admin/add.drivers (ver.260...)
[20:49] <pfifo> mrdeb, isnt what glx?
[20:49] <mrdeb> nvidia on terminal
[20:49] <mrdeb> i know in debian its nvidia-glx and nvidia-dkms
[20:50] <pfifo> xxmmaann, let me know when your finished running `sudo apt-get install nvidia-current`
[20:50] <alex421> hello. i was wondering if there is possible to set up ubuntu's network card power settings so when i set my laptop into sleep mode, it won't reset my network PPPOE connection. i have dynamic ip and i want to keep it untouched for a while without a router if you know what i mean. thanks!
[20:50] <pfifo> mrdeb, possibly, nvidia-current is a meta package
[20:50] <mrdeb> meta points ot the real packages, is htat correct
[20:51] <icecream4RUSswee> hi
[20:51] <pfifo> mrdeb, yes im not 100% sure what it installs but it installs what I want :)
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> mrdeb:  or pull in several paclages as a group.
[20:51] <mrdeb> ok willis
[20:52] <icecream4RUSswee> i want to modify gnome 3 ffrom source and i want to know if some one knows someone that will help me
[20:52] <brainard52> hey, i need some help with something. i was wondering if there is a defrag program for linux that will defrag my windows partition.
[20:52] <ikonia> brainard52: no - use windows for that
[20:53] <icecream4RUSswee> brainard52 no
[20:53] <pfifo> icecream4RUSswee, its on another IRC network, #gnome on irc.gimp.net
[20:53] <icecream4RUSswee> pfifo: ok
[20:53] <brainard52> windows freezes up half way through the defrag
[20:53] <Jeruvy> brainard52: then you have hardware issues.
[20:53] <edbian> brainard52: then something is really wrong
[20:53] <brainard52> :(
[20:54] <brainard52> might be the HD :(
[20:54] <edbian> brainard52: sorry!  Get your data copied onto another drive.
[20:54] <brainard52> ack. that costs money... at least the drive does.
[20:55] <brainard52> is there any way to ignore these announcements?
[20:55] <thesnark> is anybody else experience ridiculously low download speeds for packages?
[20:55] <thesnark> experiencing*
[20:55] <edbian> thesnark: try a different server
[20:55] <xxmmaann> i tried install using terminal . message / nvidia-current is aleready installed
[20:55] <edbian> thesnark: System -> Admin -> software sources
[20:55] <rww> brainard52: which announcements?
[20:55] <mrdeb> thesnark: the main serve can be slow
[20:55] <xxmmaann> ;-)
[20:55] <brainard52> the ones that start with ==
[20:56] <pfifo> xxmmaann, can you pastebin the output of 'lsmod'
[20:56] <rww> brainard52: click the blue menu button in the top-left of the page, click Options, click "Hide JOINS/PARTS/QUITS", click Save
[20:56] <thesnark> edbian I'm not using unity...do you mean change repositories in synaptic?
[20:56] <mrdeb> how do you make lxrandr save monitor config after reboot
[20:56] <mrdeb> ?
[20:56] <brainard52> ty
[20:57] <brainard52> anyway, i'm out. maybe ttyl...
[20:57] <edbian> thesnark: I gave directions for ubuntu classic (not unity).  I don't know of a way to change servers in synaptic so I'm gonna say 'no')
[20:57] <alphacat> [$noob] hello friends, if you could help me on this i would be grateful - wubi.exe install fails with 'Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO', i have full logs if necessary
[20:57] <edbian> thesnark: Ubuntu classic:  System -> Admin -> Software sources.
[20:57] <xxmmaann> http://pastebin.com/PKL3rjsa
[20:57] <edbian> thesnark: http://www.starkeith.net/coredump/wp-content/uploads//2011/05/ubuntu-classic-desktop.png
[20:58] <nndhawan> hey all was wondering does anyone know how to link a different openId account to their existing ubuntu account?
[20:58] <edbian> thesnark: confused still... ?
[20:58] <nndhawan> or better yet just get rid of it?
[20:58] <centuryon> sup
[20:58] <mrdeb> alphacat: can you boot install from usb instead
[20:58] <thesnark> edbian Yeah, I do not see Software Resources
[20:58] <thesnark> edbian our screens are identical
[20:58] <centuryon> some crap driving me NOTS!!!
[20:59] <alphacat> mrdeb: i only have a 2gb stick with me right now
[20:59] <pfifo> xxmmaann, and yet 'sudo nvidia-settings' wont let you change resolutions?
[20:59] <Gaara> OK,
[20:59] <centuryon> how to kill for good pulsesh#$%t?? Stop messing up with the audio??
[20:59] <Gaara> I have flash Installed.
[20:59] <Gaara> I can play youtube videos.
[20:59] <Gaara> But this SWFObject on a site, .swf does not work.
[20:59] <nndhawan> hey all was wondering does anyone know how to link a different openId account to their existing ubuntu account?
[20:59] <centuryon> I gotta use jack for audio apps, pulscrap is messing up with the mic and things.
[20:59] <thesnark> edbian getting screen sot
[20:59] <thesnark> shot*
[20:59] <edbian> thesnark: it should be somewhere
[21:00] <edbian> thesnark: Look all through the menus.  Perhaps it's in System -> Preferences   ?  or run it in the terminal ?
[21:00] <xxmmaann> pfifo:  no
[21:00] <mrdeb> alphacat: 1gb is enough to install ubuntu
[21:00] <edbian> Where is software sources?  I'm not on an Ubuntu 11.04 classic machine
[21:00] <centuryon> how to destroy pulseabomination so it won't show in programs as sound option?? even in system config??
[21:00] <thesnark> terminal is preferrable....what is the program name?
[21:00] <pfifo> xxmmaann, does it list your monitor there?
[21:00] <edbian> thesnark: I'll take a look at your screenshot just for fun :)
[21:00] <mrdeb> edbian: /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:00] <thesnark> edbian ok
[21:00] <edbian> mrdeb: In the gui ?
[21:01] <xxmmaann> yes
[21:01] <goddard> im trying to setup my network card but its not recognizing it
[21:01] <mrdeb> edbian: in gui, its synaptic from menu, then repos in menu
[21:01] <edbian> mrdeb: It's hard to change servers in /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:01] <edbian> mrdeb: It's in synaptic?
[21:01] <duvel> Hey guys. Just installed G19d on my Ubuntu 10.04 LTS partition and the only thing it's done is put the Linux penguin mascot on the LCD with "G19Daemon" underneath it. Is there any other sort of settings or configurations that I can use to get full or close to full functionality out of the keyboard? There was no response in the #LG4L channel that's why I'm asking here. Thank you in advance!
[21:01] <edbian> mrdeb: I thought it had its own gui
[21:01] <mrdeb> edbian: yes
[21:01] <mrdeb> no
[21:01] <pfifo> xxmmaann, click advanced, what does it list in 'panning'
[21:01] <xxmmaann> i can change the reesolution but i have this problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvbfmLIRSlU
[21:01] <edbian> mrdeb: thanks
[21:01] <centuryon> this is a temporary workaround mv  /etc/init.d/pulseaudio /etc/init.d/pulseaudio.bak
[21:01] <alphacat> mrdeb: with normal iso/install settings? sorry, first time doing this
[21:01] <edbian> mrdeb: You hate arch.  Why?
[21:02] <KM0201> edbian: i think that option went away in 11.04
[21:02] <edbian> thesnark: Did you see what mrdeb said??
[21:02] <edbian> KM0201: thanks
[21:02]  * edbian feels old
[21:02] <mrdeb> edbian: no i like arch
[21:02] <centuryon> but that doesnt fully delete pulse as audio option.
[21:02] <edbian> mrdeb: :P
[21:02] <thesnark> edbian yes I saw what mrdeb said
[21:02] <pfifo> xxmmaann, if you can change the resolution, then set panning to match your desired resolution
[21:02] <centuryon> nobody knows??
[21:02] <thesnark> edbian very good
[21:02] <mrdeb> what alphacat
[21:02] <edbian> thesnark: sure :)
[21:02] <edbian> alphacat?
[21:02] <xxmmaann> what? i cant understand
[21:03] <mrdeb> edbian: i just dled the arch 6/10 testing iso
[21:03] <centuryon> HOW TO DISABLE PULSEAUDIO???!!!111
[21:03] <mrdeb> centuryon: sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio*
[21:03] <edbian> ha
[21:03] <alphacat> mrdeb: dont worry, i'll try that thanks
[21:04] <alphacat> any idea why the wubi metalink might be failing though?
[21:04] <centuryon> mrdeb: will that leave ubuntu with a functional audio afterwards?
[21:04] <thesnark> oh that's cute, synaptic has a "select best server" feature
[21:04] <centuryon> does it default to plain alsa??
[21:04] <mrdeb> centuryon: no
[21:04] <KM0201> alphacat: i'd consider yourself lucky if wubi isn't working
[21:05] <centuryon> wait a minute, so ubutnut has hardcoded everything to depend on pulse??
[21:05] <centuryon> I don't get it.
[21:05] <mrdeb> centuryon: yes all modern distros do, gnome 3 requires pulse now
[21:05] <Jeruvy> centuryon: you resemble a troll
[21:05] <mrdeb> centuryon: only way to avoid it is base install
[21:05] <xxmmaann> O:-)
[21:06] <pfifo> xxmmaann, http://imagebin.org/161246
[21:07] <centuryon> Jeruvy: nope, I am trying to use JACKD, you know, audio editing software DO use jackd. Now pulse is messing with the mic for instance not picking up in ardour2.
[21:07] <centuryon> Jeruvy: is that trolling or a legitimate issue??
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> I wonder what Ubuntu-studio does with pulse and jackd.
[21:07] <yeats> centuryon: you can remove pulseaudio and live with ALSA (it does default to ALSA), but a lot of Ubuntu features are hardcoded to use pulse
[21:07] <xxmmaann> i aleready did this but not work
[21:07] <Jeruvy> centuryon: you now state an issue, your prior comments resemble trolling
[21:07] <rajvi> my bluetooth on working on ubuntu 10.10 made some changes to the UI of ubuntu and installed a lot of .debs but can't think ... why why my bluetooth died :(
[21:08] <Jeruvy> centuryon: I'd keep that in perspective in the future if I was you.
[21:08] <xxmmaann> the screen is too big so i need move the mouse to move the sccreen
[21:08] <xxmmaann> ;-)
[21:08] <xxmmaann> can you understand?
[21:08] <thesnark> thanks edbian, mrdeb
[21:08] <pfifo> xxmmaann, you set you panning area and your display size to the same number?
[21:08] <thesnark> later
[21:09] <centuryon> ok, I can live with a broken sound system as long as jack apps DO work. I don't need a system bell for instance.
[21:09] <centuryon> Jeruvy: well, it was driving me nuts.
[21:09] <Jeruvy> centuryon: fair enough, now back to your issue.
[21:09] <xxmmaann> yes
[21:09] <patrycja> m
[21:09] <duvel> Hey guys. Just installed G19d on my Ubuntu 10.04 LTS partition and the only thing it's done is put the Linux penguin mascot on the LCD with "G19Daemon" underneath it. Is there any other sort of settings or configurations that I can use to get full or close to full functionality out of the keyboard? There was no response in the #LG4L channel that's why I'm asking here. Thank you in advance!
[21:10] <centuryon> Jeruvy: I think I am straight with apt-get purge pulseaudio*
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> g19? golly i feel left out i just got a G15
[21:10] <pfifo> xxmmaann, can you take a sceenshot thats the same as mine?
[21:10] <xxmmaann> but i can modifi panning only not display size
[21:10] <Guest35651> Hello, I just installed Fedora alongside Ubuntu but I lost Ubuntu now. The Fedora install has akernel panic and I am on a Fedaora 15 Live cd. I have installed grub on sda. Can anyone help me get Ubunntu back?
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> duvel:  for the g15 there was a few packages i installed.. and a service/command i ran as part of my X session to get a clock and other things on the keyboard.
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> !g15
[21:11] <yeats> Guest35651: grub isn't giving you the choice to boot into Ubuntu?
[21:11] <duvel> i have the g19
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> duvel:  i think there was a wiki or forim theread for the thing. but its been a while
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> duvel:  i imagine its teh same process.
[21:11] <duvel> Ah, i see.
[21:11] <Guest35651> yeats, no, just a single fedora option.
[21:11] <xxmmaann>  pfifo: http://img202.imageshack.us/i/capturecran2a.png/
[21:12] <yeats> Guest35651: Fedora uses "Other" for other OSs... can you select Other?
[21:12] <cypha`> i have a ridiculous question
[21:12] <cypha`> how do I run postgresql?
[21:12] <Guest35651> I did select other.
[21:12] <cypha`> i have it installed
[21:12] <anternat> lspci -v | less
[21:12] <anternat>  shows my sound card is identified but there s no sound (10.04 lts)
[21:12] <Guest35651> yeats, what do you mean? where?
[21:12] <vlt> cypha`: Then it should run already.
[21:12]  * yeats notes that he has not dual booted Fedora/Ubuntu but has done so with F15/Win7
[21:12] <xxmmaann> its ok?
[21:12] <pfifo> xxmmaann, thats a rather  crappy shot. anyway change panning to "640x480" and then hit apply
[21:12] <yeats> Guest35651: in GRUB
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> duvel:  i really liked the g15. buy the lettering has rubbed off. makes me leary to buy another G* keyboard. :()
[21:12] <cypha`> vlt how would I create a user?
[21:12] <Guest35651> yeats, there is no other. Only fedora
[21:13] <rajvi> hello all my bluetooth stopped working on Ubuntu 10.10 .. all i remember to install a lot of packages to change the UI
[21:13] <cypha`> vlt, shouldn't it ask me to login or something?
[21:13] <vlt> cypha`: Connect to it as root user and create others.
[21:13] <yeats> Guest35651: okay - worth a shot ;-)
[21:13] <Guest35651> yeats, I think I need to reinstall grub.
[21:13] <cypha`> vlt, how?
[21:13] <duvel> Dr_Willis: I've had my g19 for 1 year now, letters aren't rubbing off. That's exactly why I decided not to purchase the G15 and spend the extra money on this one :)
[21:13] <thedude1> i want to use an external dvd drive, i plug it in, it shows up in lsusb as "13fd:150f Initio Corporation" and that's it. no mounting or anything. how do i get it working
[21:13] <vlt> cypha`: With any postgresql client?
[21:13] <yeats> Guest35651: that's the direction I would go
[21:13] <jnlsnl_> whats ambiance in unity called ?
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> duvel:  when i got this one there was no others. :) it dident even have linux support at the time. I had to compile new packages and things. heh.
[21:13] <xxmmaann> pfifo: i can change panning but i cant change the resolution
[21:13] <cypha`> vlt, yeah
[21:14] <xxmmaann> i want enter a higher value
[21:14] <cypha`> vlt postgres 8.4
[21:14] <duvel> Ugh, I wish this thing worked. Very frustrating.
[21:14] <pfifo> xxmmaann, but
 i can change the reesolution but i have this problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvbfmLIRSlU
[21:14] <xxmmaann> at resolution 1360x768
[21:14] <vlt> cypha`: "With any postgresql client?" wasn't actually a question ;-)
[21:14] <cypha`> vlt, ok, well, honestly, i'm coming from windows, which had a gui interface
[21:15] <Guest35651> can anyone help me save my ubuntu install?
[21:15] <cypha`> i'm not used to doing this by CL
[21:15] <cypha`> how do I get a prompt that's for the database?
[21:15] <vlt> Guest35651: Define "save".
[21:15] <KM0201> Guest35651: when in doubt whack it out.
[21:15] <xxmmaann>  pfifo: i want set resolution at 1360x 768 but i have only 2 option 600x400 and 320x240
[21:15] <yeats> cypha: 'psql <databasename>
[21:15] <Guest35651> vlt, cant access it after installing fedora 15 as a dual boot. My partiton is ok, but can't get it.
[21:16] <Kus> is there a way, to change the apparence theme form terminal?
[21:16] <yeats> cypha: you can also install pgadmin3
[21:16] <pfifo> xxmmaann, pastebin your xorg.conf file
[21:16] <yeats> !info pgadmin3
[21:16] <cypha> yeats, i'm on ubuntu server
[21:16] <rajvi> hello all my bluetooth does not respond on Ubuntu 10.10 nothing happens when i hit it to turn in on :(
[21:16] <vlt> cypha`: I have never used pgsql, but I assume there's a client shipped with it.
[21:16] <yeats> cypha: psql is the command line client
[21:16] <Guest35651> vlt, I can chroot to it from a live environment.
[21:16] <Guest35651> u
[21:17] <vlt> Guest35651: Using grub?
[21:17] <Guest35651> vlt, no, with the fedora live cd
[21:17] <yeats> cypha: if you're connecting from a Linux machine (or Windows with X installed) you can do 'ssh -XC user@host' and use pgadmin3 anyway
[21:17] <vlt> Guest35651: What happens when booting from hd?
[21:18] <xxmmaann> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/fk4w4G5L
[21:18] <cypha> yeats, I'm already ssh'd in
[21:18] <Guest35651> vlt, I get a single boot option: fedora, and if I select it I get a kernel panic.
[21:18] <cypha> I have ubuntu server running on a vbox
[21:18] <yeats> cypha: are you on a Linux box?
[21:18] <cypha> locally
[21:18] <cypha> and i am ssh'd in with putty
[21:18] <yeats> cypha: on Windows?
[21:18] <cypha> yup
[21:19] <cypha> but I don't use windows for anything really, everything is done thru putty
[21:19] <pfifo> xxmmaann, use this xorg.conf instead http://pastebin.com/M2jvjhqg
[21:19] <Kus> How to run Appearance Preferences from terminal?
[21:19] <yeats> cypha: have you created any databases yet?
[21:19] <cypha> yeats, nope
[21:19] <thedude1> my  external dvd drive only shows up in lsusb but nowhere else. how do i get it working
[21:20] <yeats> cypha: I highly recommend the online postgresql docs
[21:20] <vlt> Guest35651: Is this a GRUB menu?
[21:20] <Guest35651> vlt, no
[21:20] <yeats> cypha: but you should be able to 'sudo su postgres' and 'createdb <databasename>' to get started
[21:20] <vlt> Guest35651: What is it?
[21:21] <Guest35651> vlt, a fedora live cd
[21:21] <cypha> yeats, what's sudo su vs just sudo?
[21:21] <anternat> aplay -l ---> no sound card found ??? what should i do?
[21:21] <matthew_sixpiece> need help fixing my drivers for my cd drive
[21:21] <VectorX> is there a way to login to ubuntu so you dont have to keep using sudo to run commands ?
[21:22] <amarcolino> how would I go about creating an ssha password?
[21:22] <yeats> cypha: 'sudo su' means "as root, switch user"
[21:22] <cypha> yeats, ohh, that worked
[21:22] <cypha> so is that the way I'll always get into postgres?
[21:22] <yeats> cypha: it's a way to change users without needing to know their password (or if passwords are not configured, as in postgres's case)
[21:22] <yeats> cypha: that's the way I do it ;-)
[21:23] <cypha> yeats, thanks, that's great
[21:23] <vlt> Guest35651: When booting from hd you get a Fedora live CD menu?!?
[21:23] <pfifo> VectorX, yes, but enabling the root account is not supported
[21:23] <anternat> whats the command for checking newl installed hardware ?
[21:23] <hardcampa> enabling the root command is just su to root and make a password for roott.
[21:23] <hardcampa> so to speak
[21:23] <VectorX> pfifo how do you do that
[21:23] <xxmmaann>  pfifo: i pasted that in xorg conf file but the same problem
[21:23] <guntbert> cypha: yeats: sudo su is NOT recommended, use sudo -i instead to get a root shell
[21:23] <Flannel> hardcampa: Please don't recommend that here.  Thanks.
[21:23] <Guest35651> vlt, no, I get a fedora entry which is installed on the hdd
[21:23] <pfifo> xxmmaann, reboot
[21:23] <guntbert> !boroot | hardcampa
[21:24] <guntbert> !noroot | hardcampa
[21:24] <mrdeb> where is cpu core control in? is it the kernel
[21:24] <hardcampa> got it
[21:24] <hardcampa> =)
[21:24] <yeats> cypha: listen to guntbert - his suggestion is definitely best practice
[21:24] <yeats> guntbert: thanks
[21:24] <cypha> what's bad about sudo su guntbert?
[21:24] <guntbert> yeats: :)
[21:24]  * yeats takes shortcuts sometimes
[21:25] <MadDecent> Anyone know any good applications that will auto-mount NAS drives? Samba isnt working for me.. I have a WD My Book Live 3TB
[21:25] <hardcampa> I guess it all depends on how much work you do as an admin.
[21:25] <pfifo> VectorX, you really dont need to run as root, why dont you setup sudo to not ask for a password instead, that will atleast afford a bit of protection for accidents
[21:25] <guntbert> cypha: it doesn't set your environment correctly, but you will rarely need either, sudo is enough in most cases
[21:26] <VectorX> pfifo yes that is what i am asking, how do you do that
[21:26] <yeats> guntbert: in this case, it's changing to a user that does not have a login password, so
[21:26] <guntbert> hardcampa: not at all, if you *really* need a root shell use sudo -i
[21:26] <yeats> guntbert: sudo -i is probably the best way
[21:26] <hardcampa> guntbert for 20 years I've been doing fine without
[21:26] <xxmmaann> dont work
[21:26] <guntbert> !wfm | hardcampa
[21:26] <hardcampa> Doesn't matter it takes time to type sudo
[21:27] <hardcampa> but whatever leave this discussion
[21:27] <hardcampa> I got your point in the beginning
[21:27] <Pin> guys what do i do to restore my unity theme back to normal? My unity has no borders now. No X , no minimize, no buttons, no borders
[21:27] <pfifo> VectorX, this should explain it http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/no-password-for-sudo-442808/
[21:27] <hardcampa> II'ts a good point. Using sudo.. I agree. Especially if you're not used to the command line.
[21:27] <guntbert> yeats: you can sudo -u <thatotheruser> -i  in this case
[21:28] <yeats> guntbert: wow - I just learned something ;-)
[21:28] <guntbert> hardcampa: :)
[21:28] <VectorX> pfifo ty
[21:29] <pfifo> xxmmaann, im completly baffeled now. you need to reinstall. This is why using 3rd party software is bad, you never know what its going todo to your system
[21:29] <cypha> guntbert, how do I get back to the regular user?
[21:29] <cypha> after sudo su'ing or sudo -i postgres?
[21:29] <guntbert> cypha: type exit   ur just <ctrl>d
[21:29] <guntbert> *or
[21:29] <nexion-> if I do an install of unity with --no-install-recommends, would any required packages be missing?
[21:30] <nexion-> running compiz says: compiz (core) - Fatal: Couldn't open display
[21:30] <joel135> can I run 2 instances of X at the same time?
[21:30] <yeats> cypha: you can 'suspend' if you want to get back to it later, then 'fg' (foreground) to get back to the postgres session
[21:30] <pfifo> joel135, yes
[21:30] <cypha> guntbert, "sudo postgres" says "sudo: postgres: command not found
[21:30] <cypha> "
[21:30] <yeats> cypha: what are you trying to do?
[21:30] <guntbert> cypha: sudo -u postgres
[21:31] <cypha> -u does what?
[21:31] <guntbert> cypha: selects the user you want to be
[21:31] <thedude1> can anyone help me with my external dvd drive?
[21:31] <yeats> cypha: try doing 'sudo -u postgres -i' and see if that works (didn't for me on a debian sudo setup)
[21:32] <joel135> how do I, from a separate Ctrl+Alt+Fn, start gcalctool or something in :1?
[21:32] <cypha> sudo -u postgres doesn't work
[21:32] <pfifo> it would be sudo -su postgres
[21:32] <cypha> gave me this response http://dpaste.com/562550/
[21:33] <hardcampa> postgres is wierd imho. why can't psql ever work with the -U flag without you being the user to begin with...
[21:33] <ZykoticK9> joel135, you could run "gdmflexiserver" and get a new login window - note you need a second user to log in with!
[21:33] <snikker> hi, how can i replace "/* some variable text */"  with a blanc line using sed?
[21:34] <yeats> hardcampa: you have to configure the pg_hba.conf file to allow other users
[21:34] <yeats> cypha: do 'sudo -u postgres -i'
[21:34] <hardcampa> yeats.. mm but what I ment was how come, since I'm telling it I want to connect as the -U user witth a pasword..
[21:34] <cypha> yeats, that worked
[21:34] <pfifo> joel135, Im only going by what Ive read, and according to the Docs you can run multiple instances. However the implementation details are not something I know.
[21:34] <hardcampa> it seems like overkill.
[21:35] <cypha> yeats, so -i has to be after postgres ?
[21:35] <joel135> ok
[21:35] <yeats> cypha: yes
[21:35] <yeats> hardcampa: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/auth-pg-hba-conf.html will explain
[21:35] <cypha> yeats, k
[21:35] <pfifo> joel135>, what exactly are you tring todo?
[21:36] <thedude1> i can't get my external DVD drive mounted, any help?
[21:36] <jnlsnl_> Anyone know whats the name of the default menu icon on natty ?
[21:37] <yeats> thedude1: what have you tried?
 hi! do you need to acces your drive?
[21:37] <cypha> thanks guys :)
[21:37] <thedude1> tresfanatismos: i plugged it in, it spins, the LED lights up, and thats it
 try dmesg | tail
[21:38] <thedude1> tresfanatismos: it shows up in lsusb
[21:38] <yeats> cypha: sure - good luck!
[21:38] <cypha> :)
[21:38] <hardcampa> btw cypha use pgadmin3 to make life more comfortable with postgres otherwise.
[21:38] <pfifo> thedude1, is the a disk in the drive?
 it will show the kernel log. Devices found.
[21:38] <thedude1> pfifo: yes
[21:38] <cypha> hardcampa, i'm on CL
[21:39] <hardcampa> =/
[21:39] <thedude1> tresfanatismos: okay, but which is my drive
[21:40] <thedude1> tresfanatismos: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/637641/
[21:41] <yeats> cypha: also, if you're only using Windows for PuTTY, you're missing out on a better desktop experience, especially if you're mainly using it to admin linux ;-)
[21:41] <tresfanatismos> I will mount my dvd drive to see what you need look for.
[21:41] <pfifo> thedude1, unplug the drive, wait a few seconds, plug it back in, then pastebin the output of 'dmesg|tail -n50'
[21:41] <ttiicc> Im new with ubuntu/gnome/(unity and I can tell you that I hate keyring
[21:41] <Cerrdor> so I need some help ssh
[21:41] <bilz> hello. today my ubuntu (10.10) broke. I dn't know why, but the grub menu doesnt appear anymore when i turn on my laptop. I did install some updates bfore I last turned it off. now when i turn the laptop on, it doesnt get tot eh widnow to choose between ubuntu and windows, it just keeps restarting itself. any ideas
[21:41] <cypha> yeats, what do you mean?
[21:41] <ttiicc> is it possible to remove that shunk?
[21:41] <pfifo> thedude1, ok good enough
[21:41] <thedude1> pfifo: run dmesg before plugging in?
[21:41] <Cerrdor> when I try to ssh into my site i do ssh -v name@site and it just disconnects me
[21:42] <yeats> cypha: I mean that Ubuntu (or the Linux desktop of your choice) will have far more on-board sys-admin tools ;-)
[21:42] <pfifo> thedude1, is your drive externally powered?
[21:42] <cypha> yeats, the only reason i'm using putty, and not ubuntu server directly, is because COPY PASTE WON'T WORK with GPM and virtualbox's guest additions
 yes! dmesg after plug in!
[21:42] <thedude1> pfifo: via usb
[21:42] <q0_0p> what email clients do you guys use that integrates calendars?
[21:42] <cypha> yeats, I can do everything and anything thru SSH though
[21:42] <guntbert> Cerrdor: did you install sshd on the server?
[21:42] <q0_0p> and has notifications
[21:43] <mongy> <3 ssh
[21:43] <tresfanatismos> cypha! I guess the drive is  externally powered because he told the drive spins, the LED turn on!
[21:43] <pfifo> thedude1, is it plugged into a powered USB port? Is that port providing enough power? No other devices sapping all the power?
[21:43] <Cerrdor> yah
[21:43] <Cerrdor> I think I got it figured now
[21:43] <Cerrdor> but how do I generate a key to authenticate to the server?
[21:43] <bilz> hello. today my ubuntu (10.10) broke. I dn't know why, but the grub menu doesnt appear anymore when i turn on my laptop. I did install some updates bfore I last turned it off. now when i turn the laptop on, it doesnt get tot eh widnow to choose between ubuntu and windows, it just keeps restarting itself. any ideas
[21:44] <ortsvorsteher> Cerrdor, try ssh-keygen.
[21:44] <thedude1> i have only 2 ports and have no idea if they are powered or not (Lenovo S10) - the drive has 2 usb cords, one for data and one for power. nothing else connected.
[21:44] <ezrtyuiop> hello there i try to install cacti-cactid this is error i got :  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:44] <ortsvorsteher> Cerrdor, if you connect first to your server, the server key will be automatic generated.
[21:44] <yeats> cypha: you can also install pgadmin3 on Windows and connect to the VM through that
[21:45] <guntbert> Cerrdor: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[21:45] <pfifo> thedude1, try using an external power source, looking at your dmesg it appears to be a power problem.
[21:45] <thedude1> pfifo: looks good http://paste.ubuntu.com/637643/
[21:45] <yeats> cypha: it will require you to edit both the /etc/postgresql/8.4/main/postgresql.conf and /etc/postgresql/8.4/main/pg_hba.conf files to allow the connection, though
[21:45] <tresfanatismos> Hi, everyone! Is possible to talk in private in this channel?
[21:46] <guntbert> !pm | tresfanatismos
[21:46] <frybye> tresfanatismos: irc has a /msg command but that does not say that x or y person want to be getting your /msg x  or /msg y messages...
[21:46] <cypha> yeats, seems more complicated with editing those files
[21:47] <cypha> i should learn some command line commands anyway for now...it's just a devel server and db anyway
[21:47] <tresfanatismos> thanks  for replies!
[21:47] <ezrtyuiop> hello there i try to install cacti-cactid this is error i got :  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:48] <ezrtyuiop> what to do ?
[21:48] <thedude1> pfifo: i don't have an external power source
[21:48] <yeats> cypha: it would be a small change in each... (sounds complicated, but is relatively straightforward in the Linux conf file universe ;-))
[21:48] <guntbert> !repeat | ezrtyuiop
[21:49] <pfifo> thedude1, can you verify that the drive work with the laptop via say windows or another distro?
[21:49] <cypha> yeats, I will return once I get a grasp of CL postgres and ask you about that again, promise :)
[21:50] <bilz> hello. today my ubuntu (10.10) broke. I dn't know why, but the grub menu doesnt appear anymore when i turn on my laptop. I did install some updates bfore I last turned it off. now when i turn the laptop on, it doesnt get tot eh widnow to choose between ubuntu and windows, it just keeps restarting itself. any ideas
[21:50] <flux242> hi, is there any way to find out how a block device is formatted without installing fdisk? /sys/block/... doesn't seem to be a help here
[21:50] <thedude1> pfifo: i only know about the drive itself, it worked well in another laptop. that one is broken now and i bought an external case for the drive to use it with my netbook. I once tried to use it with a windows machine with the same results as here now...
[21:50] <guntbert> flux242: fdisk should be installed
[21:50] <tresfanatismos> i don't intend to take the information only for me. i am not american and i don read so fast. So, talk in private will help me and other person. Sometimes i can help too.
[21:51] <flux242> imagine fdisk is not installed
[21:51] <KM0201> flux242: sure it is.
[21:51] <guntbert> tresfanatismos: you can tell your client to ignore the join/part messages
[21:51] <ikonia> flux242: fdisk is on ubuntu by default, have you removed it ?
[21:51] <Traintop> flux242: too bad ;...
[21:51] <yeats> cypha: understood ;-)
[21:51] <flux242> just imagine
[21:51] <pfifo> thedude1, so this is an internal dvd drive, in an enclosure, thats completly usb powered?
[21:51] <tresfanatismos> guntbert: my client is xchat.
[21:52] <thedude1> pfifo: exactly
[21:52] <ikonia> flux242: fdisk is on ubuntu by default, have you removed it ?
[21:52] <tresfanatismos> guntbert: did I answer your question?
[21:52] <guntbert> tresfanatismos: right click on the channel tab, select settings/hide...
[21:52] <pfifo> thedude1, you should get an external usb power cord.
[21:52] <Traintop> flux242: imagine you remove the tires from your car; how could you drive it somewhere?
[21:53] <flux242> frack
[21:53] <thedude1> pfifo: so you tell me the drive won't work powered only by the 2 USB ports?
[21:54] <TheZanke> anyone know if it is possible to get the BisonCam in an alienware m9750 working on ubuntu?
[21:54] <pfifo> thedude1, try switching the the ports your using, only one may be powered, if you only need one power source for the drive you might be ok
[21:55] <Guest14500> quit
[21:55] <Guest14500> exit
[21:55] <ikonia> TheZanke: investigate it's generic linux compatability then we can progress it
[21:55] <duvel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5S-a4Ex5Rw
[21:55] <ikonia> duvel: why have you posted that ?
[21:55] <ezrtyuiop> hello there i try to install cacti-cactid this is error i got :  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)`
[21:55] <tresfanatismos> guntbert: First time using IRC. I didn find what you order me.
[21:55] <TheZanke> ikonia, its a very undocumented camera... i cant find anything on it specifically besides vista drivers :(
[21:56] <bilz> hello. today my ubuntu (10.10) broke. I dn't know why, but the grub menu doesnt appear anymore when i turn on my laptop. I did install some updates bfore I last turned it off. now when i turn the laptop on, it doesnt get tot eh widnow to choose between ubuntu and windows, it just keeps restarting itself. any ideas
[21:56] <duvel> ikonia, sorry - wrong channel LOL.
[21:56] <HidekiAI> o
[21:56] <ikonia> duvel: what channel was it meant for ?
[21:56] <thedude1> pfifo: it shows the same reaction with either combination of ports and cables, also if i only use the data cable or the power cable
[21:56] <duvel> I have multiple networks open, it was meant for a different network. LOL
[21:56] <pfifo> ##youtube
[21:57] <guntbert> tresfanatismos: below the field where you are typing your text there are "tabs" for every channel, right-click on one
[21:58] <pfifo> thedude1, it probably wants power from both, and your system can only give 1. I know my eeepc has 3 ports, but only 1 is powered, I had to get a powered usb HUB for it.
[21:59] <thedude1> can i find out somehow if my Lenovo IdeaPad S10 has a powered port? googling didnt help much
[21:59] <pfifo> thedude1, check the local thrift stores, alot of cell phones provide a wall plug that will chagre the phone via a usb port
[22:00] <thedude1> pfifo: i know, i even have one lying around from my old broken ipod, lets see if i can find it
[22:00] <pfifo> thedude1, if you have 2 devices that require power you can do a bit of testing to see what combinations work
[22:02] <__sephiroth> why doesnt' root create logs for what it did?
[22:02] <thedude1> pfifo: i can plug in a HDD that works with 1 port
[22:02] <pfifo> __sephiroth, what are you trying to get logged?
[22:03] <guntbert> __sephiroth: sudo does create logs ...
[22:03] <pfifo> thedude1, will it work on both ports or just 1
[22:03] <thedude1> it definitely worked on one
[22:04] <__sephiroth> su doesn’t record the commands executed as
[22:04] <__sephiroth> root, but it does create a log entry that states who became root and when.
[22:04] <thedude1> and it works on the other as well
[22:04] <pfifo> __sephiroth,  /root/.bash_history is available too
[22:04] <guntbert> __sephiroth: one more reason not to use su but always sudo
[22:05] <bbluz> hi folks
[22:06] <pfifo> thedude1, I guess now find another powered device and see if both work. But really this test is a bit flawed due to both devices could still use less overall power than the dvd drive :)
[22:06] <Gustavo> alguem do brasil
[22:06] <tresfanatismos> hi bbluz
[22:06] <bbluz> hi tresfanatismos
[22:07] <tresfanatismos> bbluz any doubt?
[22:07] <thedude1> pfifo: i only have these 2 drives..
[22:08] <victorhugo289> Hi
[22:08] <pdg1> i'm trying to find some more information about how wubu works
[22:09] <pdg1> wubi*
[22:09] <bbluz> I am having issues configuring bind9 on Ubuntu Natty,I have used the guide from the HowTo on the official ubuntu site and have thoroughly read and tried several other blogs and guides and resources but still no luck. If anyone has a working bind9 server running here I'd appreciate some help.. thanks
[22:09] <victorhugo289> Does anybody know how to convert .NRG to .ISO? I have Iso Master and Acetone but I don't remember how to convert them?
[22:09] <dahlberg> hi all, having no sound from flash in firefox after fresh 11.04 install. anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this?
[22:09] <ikonia> bbluz: just ask the question
[22:11] <bbluz> ok ikona, I have a machine on my network named "gallery" which hosts an apache server. I want its named to be resolved so other machines on the network can reach http://gallery from a web browser
[22:11] <ikonia> bbluz: ok ? so what's the problem
[22:11] <dahlberg> hi all, having no sound from flash in firefox after fresh 11.04 install. anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this?
[22:11] <victorhugo289> Does anybody know how to convert .NRG to .ISO? I have Iso Master and Acetone but I don't remember how to convert them?
[22:12] <guntbert> !repeat | victorhugo289
[22:12] <thedude1> pfifo: maybe the drive gets enough power if the notebook is plugged in?
[22:12] <victorhugo289> :D
[22:12] <Pwnna> Does anyone know how I can figure out what was using Swap to 100% (3.8GB) prior to the last reboot?
[22:12] <pfifo> thedude1, does it worked plugged in?
[22:13] <Pwnna> 100% swap is used, and i can't even move my cursor >.>
[22:13] <bbluz> so I have an ubuntu router which will serve DNS requests as well. I tried to configure it but when I try to ping the host called gallery from another machine it says gallery : unknown host. I have never configured a DNS service before I am pretty rubbish in that area.
[22:13] <bbluz> basically
[22:13] <thedude1> pfifo: it shows the same reaction
[22:13] <bbluz> the dns server doesn't resolve names
[22:14] <qin> Pwnna: Did you hibernate?
[22:14] <Pwnna> qin: nope
[22:14] <Pwnna> qin: i suspect it's xchat, but i can't confirm
[22:14] <jetienne__> what is the good command line to open a url from a terminal ? something independant from the browser
[22:14] <ikonia> bbluz: ok - so have you created a zone file for the zone you want to serve ?
[22:14] <Pwnna> anyway to extract the swap data via dd or something?
[22:15] <qin> Pwnna: Pointless.
[22:15] <bbluz> yes ikona, I have done that
[22:15] <ikonia> bbluz: what domain is the zone file for ?
[22:15] <Pwnna> qin: so how can I, otherwise, find the responsible application?
[22:16] <bbluz> ikonia: linux.lan
[22:16] <pfifo> bbluz, pastebin the output of 'dig gallery'
[22:16] <ikonia> bbluz: ok, so can you resolve gallery.linux.lan ?
[22:16] <qin> Pwnna: Just observe io while system running, and memory, iftop, htop
[22:16] <pdg1> i don't understand why the only way i can use Wubi is from the CDrom. I have a usb that boots properly but i can't use it to install with wubi
[22:16] <patyx7> Has anyone had any problems using iBus in Flash?
[22:17] <patyx7> I can't seem to type Japanese or Chinese in any flash application
[22:18] <bbluz> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/637650/
[22:18] <bbluz> ikonia: no I can't, it says unknown host
[22:18] <ikonia> bbluz: can you resolve gallery.linux.lan ?
[22:19] <ikonia> bbluz: on the router, can you do "nslookup gallery.linux.lan"
[22:19] <ikonia> bbluz: also what name servers are the clients set to use ?
[22:19] <loldrup> join #aytana
[22:19] <loldrup> crap
[22:19] <Pwnna> qin: it's been happening everyday. idk which is responsible >.>, and when the thing reaches full, the HDD bandwidth gets taken and I can barely use any UI, text or graphical.
[22:20] <bbluz> ikonia: nslookup gallery.linux.lan results in : SERVFAIL
[22:20] <ikonia> bbluz: what dns server is it trying to use
[22:21] <ikonia> bbluz: eg: is it trying to use 127.0.0.1 ?
[22:21] <pfifo> Pwnna, keep an eye on how much memory your programs are using
[22:21] <Pwnna> pfifo: when i notice it's usually too late..
[22:21] <Pwnna> >.>
[22:21] <bbluz> ikonia: not the loopback address but its own address, 192.168.1.1 - the router, which is also the DNS server
[22:21] <qin> Pwnna: First, check logs, second swapoff to see how will behave system
[22:21] <Pwnna> hmn
[22:21] <Pwnna> logs
[22:21] <pfifo> Pwnna, keep an eye on dosent mean to start looking when the problem happens ;)
[22:22] <bbluz> my router is an ubuntu machine too, and its also my DNS server on my Lan
[22:22] <qin> Pwnna: /var/log/ messages auth.log syslog
[22:22] <ikonia> bbluz: ok, that's fine, so on 192.168.1.1 can you do nslookup "gallery.linux.lan" ?
[22:22] <Pwnna> yeah
[22:22] <Pwnna>  kernel: [   32.770147] hda-intel: spurious response 0x0:0x0, last cmd=0x2f2d00
[22:23] <Pwnna> nope that's boot
[22:23] <jnlsnl_> ... Anyone know the default colour code to ubuntus terminal? trying to get it nice and purple over on xubuntu :-)
[22:23] <jnlsnl_> terminal bg even
[22:23] <pdg1> ummmm
[22:23] <patyx7> guess no one knows about ibus and flash +)
[22:24] <pdg1> purple?
[22:24] <pdg1> i thought iwas nice and brown/tan/beige
[22:24] <pfifo> jnlsnl_, right click the terminal -> profile -> preferences "color"
[22:24] <qin> Pwnna: notify-send "`free | tail -n 1`" loop it every 5 minutes
[22:24] <qin> Pwnna: Second number is used swap
[22:24] <Pwnna> hm
[22:24] <Pwnna> found something useful
[22:24] <Pwnna> kay i'll take note
[22:25] <qin> Pwnna: ?
[22:25] <pfifo> pdg1, http://www.toledo-bend.com/colorblind/Color56.jpg
[22:25] <Pwnna> some log?
[22:25] <Pwnna> might be useful
[22:25] <Pwnna> idk
[22:25] <jnlsnl_> pfifo aye, but do you also know the exact color code used default on real ubuntu ?
[22:25] <qin> Pwnna: Paste?
[22:26] <pfifo> jnlsnl_, no
[22:26] <pdg1> pfifo: good one bro :p lol
[22:26] <pfifo> jnlsnl_, cant you get "close enough"
[22:26] <bbluz> ikonia: yes, I did all my nslookup commands and digs etc on 192.168.1.1 and that machine returns SERVFAIL.
[22:26] <jnlsnl_> pfifo yes but im a perfectionist :D
[22:27] <Pwnna> qin: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DZyt0gAH
[22:27] <Pwnna> idk if this is useful
[22:27] <Pwnna> i'm gonna go see more
[22:27] <bbluz> ikonia:my DNS server doesn't do its job, it is just passing its queries to my ISP's server instead, hence why nslookup on google and such works ok
[22:27] <bbluz> ikonia: but the DNS request for a machine on my lan fail
[22:28] <pfifo> Pwnna, it was java, what java apps are you running? minecraft?
[22:28] <Pwnna> pfifo: lol no. eclipse
[22:28] <Nisstyre> yes
[22:29] <Zzzzz> hi room
[22:29] <Pwnna> though it happened without eclipse yesterday
[22:29] <bfh198> Hey any1 know how to make dual screen monitor run like 1 monitor -- not in the sense of same things on both monitors -- being vague so if some1 can help message me.
[22:29] <Zzzzz> i want to edit /etc/shadow file a hash value.. how can i create new hash value of password and then repalce it in that /etc/shadow file ?
[22:29] <pfifo> Pwnna, Out of memory: Kill process 19441 (java) score 48 or sacrifice child
[22:30] <qin> Pwnna: What is java process you run?
[22:30] <Pwnna> qin: it's eclipse, but i don't think it's related
[22:30] <Pwnna> cz it happened ealier, and then stopped, then i launched eclipse as i was about to do some work.
[22:31] <Zzzzz> any one know how to replace encrypted value with mine for changing pass ?
[22:31] <Zzzzz> in /etc/shadow
[22:31] <qin> Pwnna: eclipse is java application? No wonder I have never used it!
[22:31] <Pwnna> qin: lol. well i currently have no other options
[22:31] <ikonia> bbluz: can you pastebin your named.conf please ?
[22:31] <Pwnna> Jul  3 17:07:34 ulti-laptop kernel: [32515.615696] lowmem_reserve[]: 0 2925 3808 3808
[22:31] <Pwnna> hm
[22:31] <qin> Pwnna: What java are you using?
[22:31] <Dr_Willis_> bfh198:  you mean as one WIDE monitor?
[22:32] <Pwnna> qin: what do you mean?
[22:32] <Pwnna> OpenJDK
[22:32] <Pwnna> again, i don't have any java apps open when this whole thing started.
[22:32] <qin> Pwnna: Try Sun version
[22:33] <Pwnna> i doubt that's the problem
[22:33] <pfifo> *Oracle*
[22:33] <pfifo> Pwnna, can you pastebin the output of 'mount'
[22:33] <mimico> how would I go about getting this skype fix ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/592334 ) onto my system.  I am running 10.04, and installed skype from the web.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[22:34] <qin> Pwnna: On top listing it is also java, so either this one, or apache (attack), or malicious command (not seen in your log)
[22:34] <bbluz> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/637654/
[22:34] <Pwnna> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2sq7rkVy
[22:35] <Pwnna> qin: i strongly suspect xchat, though. cz when I close xchat, the interface stops freezing.
[22:35] <ikonia> bbluz: is that all there is the named.conf file ?
[22:35] <bbluz> yes ikonia
[22:35] <pfifo> Pwnna, how about 'df' too
[22:35] <Pwnna> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6HvNmsdy
[22:36] <bbluz> ikonia: yes
[22:36] <bbluz> that's everything
[22:36] <ikonia> bbluz: where is the rest of the config setup ? things like the root.ca, the config for the DNS sever etc
[22:36] <pfifo> Pwnna, well its NOT due to a tmpfs using all your memory
[22:37] <Pwnna> pfifo: ...uhh you lost me
[22:37] <bbluz> ikonia: all the bind config is in there : http://paste.ubuntu.com/637655/
[22:37] <pfifo> Pwnna, a tmpfs is otherwise known as a ramdisk
[22:38] <ikonia> bbluz: that can't be it - there must be another config file,
[22:38] <potatoes_> Hello! I'm trying to run Ubuntu Customization Kit to build a customized Ubuntu (i.e. only with the apps/features I want) using the Ubuntu Mini remix as the 'source'. I'm having some troubles though...is anyone willing to take a bit and see if they can help me out? (warning: I'm an Ubuntu newbie)
[22:38] <ikonia> bbluz: you've not got a root hints/ca file / zone setup, you've not told it about recursion etc etc, there must be another config file you're using to configure bind
[22:38] <Pwnna> pfifo: and?
[22:39] <pfifo> Pwnna, thats not the cause, so 1 less possibilty to investigate
[22:39] <Pwnna> lol k
[22:39] <rizzuh_laptop> How do I restore a bunch of sql dumps into an existing database? They're all prefixed by date and number, in the order to be applied. A bash script or something similar would be great.
[22:40] <bbluz> ikonia: I guess you are asbolutely right, thing is I have followed so many howtos and they were all saying different stuff so my config files are all over the place
[22:40] <potatoes_> Has anyone here used Ubuntu Customization Kit before?
[22:40] <pfifo> Pwnna, are you running any services?
[22:40] <io> potatoes_: ask your real question
[22:40] <Pwnna> pfifo: apache2, mysql?
[22:40] <ikonia> bbluz: you need to find out where the master config file is for bind - that's the key one
[22:40] <Pwnna> what do you mean
[22:40] <Dr_Willis_> !remaster
[22:40] <bbluz> ikonia: ok, I am with you
[22:40] <pfifo> Pwnna, anything unusual in apache's log?
[22:41] <gbili> hi, i need some help with my screen, i am connected through HDMI and the desktop does not fit to screen
[22:41] <potatoes_> io: it's really specific, I'm stuck at this one point using UCK...it gives me three options, 1) select a package manager, 2) console something, etc.
[22:41] <vlt> rizzuh_laptop: Yes, you can use a bash script.
[22:41] <Pwnna> pfifo: no.
[22:41] <Pwnna> it's not really active.
[22:41] <Pwnna> lol
[22:41] <potatoes_> io: when I select option 1, it says there's no package manager installed...
[22:41] <ikonia> bbluz: look at /etc/bind/named.conf
[22:41] <io> potatoes_: ok so what's your problem? more details are required on what you actually need help with
[22:41] <Pwnna> only localhost, and i wasn't using it
[22:42] <pfifo> maybe its a syn flood
[22:42] <ikonia> bbluz: /etc/bind/named.conf.options and /etc/bind/named.conf.local
[22:42] <io> potatoes_: also see the links that ubottu posted
[22:42] <ikonia> bbluz: ubuntu uses /etc/bind/$files not /etc/$files as non-ubuntu machines do
[22:42] <potatoes_> io: alright!
[22:42] <ikonia> bbluz: that could be the main problem, the config files are supposed to be in /etc/bind on ubuntu, not /etc
[22:43] <Pwnna> pfifo: hm
[22:43] <bbluz> ikonia: my files are in /etc/bind
[22:43] <Pwnna> pfifo: i'm behind a NAT
[22:43] <rizzuh_laptop> vlt, I'm interested in one already writer by someone else, as my bash skills are poor.
[22:43] <pfifo> Pwnna, i was joking anyway
[22:43] <ikonia> bbluz: look at named.conf.local and named.conf.options then
[22:43] <Pwnna> lol
[22:44] <vlt> rizzuh_laptop: That depends heavily on the tasks the script should do.
[22:44] <Pwnna> Weird error
[22:44] <Pwnna> idk how to find out if this happens again, but i strongly suspect xchat
[22:44] <bbluz> ikonia: yes, I am going to pastebin them just so you can have a look and maybe find something of interest.. cheers
[22:44] <Pwnna> it's either, xchat, emesene, chrome, or terminal
[22:44] <Cydd> its your username
[22:44] <marcc> hi, I wish to upgrade the linux kernel using http://www.ubuntu-corner.com/2011/06/upgrade-linux-kernel-in-ubuntu-11-04-to-2-6-39-0/ but the 2.6.39 packages don't show up in apt-cache. What can i do?
[22:44] <Cydd> "pwna"
[22:44] <rizzuh_laptop> vlt, restore .sql files into an existing database, from a directory. All of them.
[22:44] <Pwnna> as those are apps opened everytime this happens
[22:44] <Pwnna> dropbox..
[22:44] <pfifo> Pwnna, just monitor your memory usage, perhaps setup a cronjob to log the output of 'ps aux' into a file every couple minutes
[22:45] <Pwnna> maybe
[22:45] <vlt> rizzuh_laptop: bash is often pretty plain english. So I think if you can phrase the task your script is nearly written ;-)
[22:45] <Pwnna> is there a way to warn me
[22:45] <Pwnna> if my swap gets > 80%
[22:45] <rizzuh_laptop> vlt, playing with xargs and find I couldn't get the mysql or mysqlinmport clients to restore the files :<
[22:45] <potatoes_> io: now that I read that link on remastering, I think it might not be quite what I want - because I don't have a concrete list of all the apps I want to add/remove - basically, what I'm looking for is a super 'slim' version of Ubuntu that just has the bare minimum of apps, so that I can then go on to add apps on an as needed basis
[22:45] <bfh198> Hello, looking to find out how to do the following:
[22:45] <bfh198> Basicly This is what i want to accomplish the with an example:
[22:45] <bfh198> --on a sinlge monitor you can dock programs on both sides, but it seems on
[22:45] <bfh198> dual screens you can only dock once on each monitor, anyway to change this
[22:45] <bfh198> so i can dock x4 times ?
[22:46] <FloodBot1> bfh198: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:46] <vlt> Pwnna: You could use nagios for monitoring nearly everything on your machines.
[22:46] <Pwnna> k
[22:46] <Pwnna> i'll take a look into it in a sec
[22:46] <vlt> Pwnna: Just write a test (using the command "free" for example) and set notifications in nagios.
[22:47] <Pwnna> kay
[22:47] <Pwnna> right now i gotta get this thing to pass my unittest
[22:47] <io> potatoes_: ubuntu-server with a GUI? :-)
[22:47] <vlt> rizzuh_laptop: I encourage you to exactly do that.
[22:47] <Pwnna> anyone use xdebug here?
[22:47] <rizzuh_laptop> vlt, I tried and failed.
[22:48] <bbluz> ikonia: actually there is nothing more in my files than the stuff you already know about my config
[22:48] <vlt> rizzuh_laptop: Let's see what you have so far.
[22:48] <io> potatoes_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal
[22:48] <bbluz> ikonia: I am going to read everything again from the top
[22:48] <potatoes_> io: ahh! let me check that out :)
[22:48] <io> potatoes_: it's already been done numerous times so I wouldn't suggest doing something that has already been done, unless you really need too
[22:48] <bbluz> ikonia: thanks very much for your time mate, much appreciated :)
[22:49] <potatoes_> io: yeah, I see what you mean.
[22:49] <rizzuh_laptop> vlt, find . -type f -exec mysqlimport --user=USER --password=PASS world '{}' \;
[22:49] <beginner> i was wondering
[22:49] <ikonia> bbluz: sure, no problem. Shout if your unsure about anything
[22:49] <beginner> whats the best filesystem for Ubuntu?
[22:49] <io> potatoes_: you can still use the minimal setup as a base, install packages and then re-create your own flavour of ubuntu
[22:49] <bbluz> ikonia: will do, thanks :)
[22:49] <Pwnna> ext4?
[22:49] <Pwnna> beginner: just use ext4
[22:49] <beginner> is it okay if i use NTFS?
[22:49] <vlt> rizzuh_laptop: What does the error msg look like?
[22:50] <potatoes_> io: sweet, I think this is exactly what I was looking for
[22:50] <io> potatoes_: also this link for the download https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[22:50] <Pwnna> beginner: you asked for the "best"
[22:50] <rizzuh_laptop> vlt, find . -type f | xargs -0 | cat | mysqlimport -uUSER -pPASS world # as well, same problem. Nothing gets imported (the "script" finishes instantly), or mysqlimport saying access denied (user/pass are ok).
[22:50] <tdignan> beginner: ntfs is a lousy filesystem. it's fragmented, ffs.
[22:50] <beginner> okay
[22:50] <potatoes_> io: Nice, thanks a lot for this suggestion!
[22:50] <beginner> thank you
[22:50] <io> potatoes_: no problem
[22:50] <tdignan> use ext3/4
[22:51] <aLekZ> hii
[22:51]  * pfifo can get even slimmer than the minimial CD
[22:51] <aLekZ> holaa
[22:52] <aLekZ> soi nuevo aki necesito ayuda
[22:52] <vlt> rizzuh_laptop: I wouldn't use xargs here because you rather want separate commands to be executed here.
[22:52] <pfifo> tdignan, ext is fragmented as well
[22:53] <pfifo> except it fragments files in such a way as to speed up access time
[22:53] <vlt> rizzuh_laptop: Are you sure mysqlimport is the right tool?
[22:53] <nimbiotics> is there any way to tweak wifi reception in my laptop with ubuntu 11.04?? TIA!
[22:53] <rizzuh_laptop> vlt, not at all lol.
[22:53] <Viking667> anyone know why on earth removing the fglrx out of natty breaks the system somewhat?
[22:54] <Viking667> the symptoms are: boot up, kernel loads, xorg loads, then both my screens switch off.
[22:54] <vlt> rizzuh_laptop: "man mysqlimport" should tell you.
[22:54] <Viking667> ... meaning I have to ssh in to fix Xorg. I had to remove the xorg.conf to get the GUI to work again.
[22:55] <Viking667> oh, and when I try adding fglrx to the mix, apt-get wants to REMOVE about a hundred packages, x/kde/gnome-related
[22:55] <rizzuh_laptop> vlt, apparently it is made to do this exact same task. But I need to run it for all the files in a directory. Running it multiple times manually, or typing all the file names on the command line manually (even with tab completion) is time-consuming and error-prone.
[22:56] <Viking667> rizzuh_laptop: what's the question?
[22:56] <kdelinux> I'm experiencing random slowdowns with Kubuntu 11.04. It seems that everytime the system load is high (and the CPU runs at max 2200 MHz) the processor switches to 550 MHz for a while, and then goes back to normal. Does anyone know how to prevent this?
[22:56] <vlt> rizzuh_laptop: Sure. When running it once, manually, does it do what it should do?
[22:56] <rizzuh_laptop> Viking667, How do I restore a bunch of MySQL sql dumps into an existing database? They're all prefixed by date and number, in the order to be applied. A bash script or something similar would be great.
[22:56] <pfifo> kdelinux, perhaps a heat problem?
[22:56] <rizzuh_laptop> vlt, yeah.
[22:57] <tdignan> pfifo: how come i never have to defrag? is it because it's done automatically?
[22:57] <Viking667> does msql accept dumps to reimport from the command line? I can't remember.
[22:57] <vlt> rizzuh_laptop: Ok, have a look at the bash sytax "for file in *; do command ....; done"
[22:57] <Viking667> err, MySql rather
[22:57] <rizzuh_laptop> vlt, alright
[22:57] <Viking667> vlt: yah. What I would have suggested.
[22:57] <vlt> Viking667: Yes, it does.
[22:58] <wildbat> kdelinux: could it be overheating ?
[22:58] <Viking667> wildbat: my thought.
[22:58] <kdelinux> pfifo, my laptop is 47 degrees Celsius on average. I have only experiences these slowdowns since a few days, and the avg. temperature has not risen in those few days.
[22:58] <io> !defrag | tdignan
[22:58]  * Viking667 blinks... 
[22:58] <kdelinux> But, I might give cleaning my laptop a try.
[22:58] <kdelinux> pfifo, wildbat thanks for the suggestion.
[22:58] <Viking667> ooo?
[22:58] <vlt> rizzuh_laptop: "file" is a variable name in this case and must be used as $file or even ${file} later.
[22:58] <Viking667> probably ${file}
[22:58] <pfifo> tdignan, defrag would slow ext down. it positions 2 files to where it can keep the read head in between them prepared to goto the one you want. (times thousands of files of course)
[22:59] <tdignan> Ah
[22:59] <DriversBroken>  Can anyone recommend a good disk imager?
[22:59] <vlt> DriversBroken: dd
[22:59] <Viking667> pfifo: that uh, doesn't sound quite right...
[22:59] <vlt> DriversBroken: ddrescue
[22:59] <tdignan> so it's just allowed to be fragmented, because it makes more sense the way ext does the reads
[22:59] <mobodo> anybody else having trouble with their UPC not being detected by apcupsd even though it lists find with lsusb?
[22:59] <tdignan> whereas ntfs gets faster if you defrag it
[22:59] <Viking667> a certain degree of fragmentation is acceptable
[23:00] <mobodo> it was working fine before 11.04 I believe
[23:00] <pfifo> Viking667, its not exactly what it dose, but good enough lames description
[23:00] <Viking667> so, nobody knows what the hell I'm on about?
[23:01] <vlt> rizzuh_laptop: Another hint: Better use "${file}" (with quotes) in case your filenames contain spaces.
[23:01] <Viking667> (re Xorg/fglrx)
[23:01] <rizzuh_laptop> vlt, they don't, but thanks for the help.
[23:01] <pfifo> Viking667, the whole thing is fragmented in a manner that reduces access time on a multi user environment. The system begins to fail at 80% capacity for ext2
[23:01] <JusticeZero> Hey, I need to be walked through a security issue if anyone has a minute. I want to set a program in a directory that I want to run up so that it can't accidentally get loose and do anything annoying.
[23:01] <tdignan> JusticeZero: chroot
[23:02] <JusticeZero> Can you be more specific?
[23:02] <tdignan> google chroot jail
[23:02] <Viking667> the one limitation I could never really get around is the fact that you couldn't ever use / in a filename, i.e. "Sales sheet for 7/6/2003."
[23:02] <Guest82112> how will i install sblive on my server (10.04 lts)
[23:03] <tdignan> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[23:03] <dr_Willis> chroot jails can be a pain to get going
[23:03] <tdignan> typing causes arthritis and thinking causes headaches
[23:03] <tdignan> oxygen kills us, too
[23:03] <tdignan> life is tough
[23:04] <Viking667> tdignan: yup. But dying sucks more.
[23:04] <dr_Willis> but if you are wanting that locked down an      app thers apparmour also. if i rember           the name right
[23:04] <Viking667> apparmor
[23:04] <JusticeZero> That looks like it would work, but I don't know how to set it up.
[23:04] <tdignan> Viking667: hmm, I'm not sure what happens after I die yet
[23:05] <tdignan> but I'm sure the process of dying, will be miserable.
[23:05] <Viking667> I rather hope not. I'd like to go, peacefully in my sleep...
[23:05] <Viking667> ... just not yet.
[23:05] <tdignan> It can happen, that is how my mom died.
[23:05] <pfifo> JusticeZero, pop in a live CD
[23:06] <Viking667> ring ring... hi, I'm out for like, an eternity. Get hold of my family ... bye.
[23:06] <JusticeZero> don't have one at the moment.. :/
[23:06] <TMechanic> guys getdeb is down right?
[23:06] <Viking667> "getdeb"?
[23:06] <tdignan> apt-get?
[23:07] <dr_Willis> getdeb website and repos
[23:07] <DriversBroken> JusticeZero, which app is it?
[23:07] <bob12603> I am also unable to get to archive.getdeb.net -- has been down for at least 10 hours for me.
[23:07] <dr_Willis> unoffical things ;)
[23:07] <Viking667> getdeb down for me too.
[23:07] <Viking667> "server unreachabl"
[23:07] <Viking667> e
[23:07] <JusticeZero> Trying to run a LambdaMOO server to tinker on. Last time I ran it, the whole machine froze up for reasons unclear.
[23:08] <pfifo> JusticeZero, then type 'sudo mkdir chroot && sudo debootstrap oneiric chroot'
[23:08] <nimbiotics> is there any way to tweak wifi reception in my laptop with ubuntu 11.04?? TIA!
[23:08] <Viking667> packet tracing for getdeb stops dead at te2-0.cr2.lax1.us.packetexchange.net
[23:08] <dr_Willis> JusticeZero:  may be easier to       use it in vbox
[23:08] <tdignan> nimbiotics: try changing channel, try relocating laptop physically.
[23:09] <JusticeZero> vbox?
[23:09] <tonytraductor> I can't ssh IN to the machine I' m on, remotely. (I can ssh to localhost when I'm here with physical access). netstat says listening on port 22, and sshd is running., but when I try to ssh IN I get "connection refused"
[23:09] <tdignan> a microwave can kill a wifi connection pretty fast, for instance.
[23:09] <tonytraductor> currently, I'm using irssi on my home machine in another city to be here, so, I can ssh OUT.
[23:09] <dr_Willis> or some other virtual machine
[23:09] <pfifo> JusticeZero, virtualbox-ose is another good option, it will run a livecd
[23:09] <nimbiotics> tdignan: thx
[23:09] <Viking667> tonytraductor: checked out the Listen directive in sshd_config yet?
[23:09] <dork> dr_Willis: freaking speakers are blown imo
[23:09] <tdignan> try to have your computer or laptop plugged into something that isn't a cluster**** of wires
[23:10] <tonytraductor> ok, where is the sshd config? is it names " sshd.config"? (that would make it easy to find)
[23:10] <tdignan> interference is a big problem
[23:10] <Viking667> err, sorry, that was meant to be ListenAddress
[23:10] <fizyplankton> would it be possible to install lucid to a cd? my friend who lives on the other side of the country is staying with us for a few weeks, and he knows that im such a linux whore, and jokes about how i should put linux om it (hey alex, see that orange over there? put linux on it). so to get back at him, i was planning a little practical joke. i was gonna change the boot order on his machine and throw a lucid disc in there, b
[23:10] <dr_Willis> dork   bummer. hope its under warrwnty
[23:10] <TheZanke> whered the administrator tools menu get moved to on the new ui?
[23:10] <tonytraductor> found it, says listen port 22 (and netstat also indicates that machine is listning on 22)
[23:11]  * pfifo installed linux on an orange once. It was tangy
[23:11] <sudokill> fizyplankton, i dont think so, because you cant format it / partition it for install
[23:11] <dr_Willis> top right power button has some menu items TheZanke
[23:11] <sudokill> fizyplankton, why dont you just put  alivecd in?
[23:11] <pfifo> fizyplankton, put it on a persistant LiveUSB
[23:11] <fizyplankton> sudokill: dang it. but that would be a good practical joke. when he gets back to ohio, and sees linux booting up
[23:12] <DriversBroken> Can someone help me image a hdd using ddrescue?
[23:12] <Viking667> oops.
[23:12] <DriversBroken> I don't know how to specify the source and destination directories
[23:12] <TheZanke> dr_Willis, tyty
[23:12] <fizyplankton> pfifo: i dont want any external hardware to indicate that its a joke. i want him to think i reinstalled his OS
[23:12] <Viking667> DriversBroken: for starters, you image the whole partition, not the directory.
[23:12] <dr_Willis> DriversBroken: whats the hard part if ut?
[23:12] <wildbat> fizyplankton: you can make a live installation ~ but ~ CD is slow ! for this joke ;p do it dual boot ! XD
[23:12] <sudokill> fizyplankton, he would hear the cd spinning either way...
[23:12] <tonytraductor> ok, I've gt ssh_config open in vim
[23:12] <pfifo> fizyplankton, how are you going todo this without physical access to the machine?
[23:13] <pfifo> fizyplankton, why not just install ubuntu for real?
[23:13] <Viking667> tonytraductor: no, wrong file. Check sshd_config, not ssh_config
[23:13] <dr_Willis> DriversBroken:  /dev/sda1  for example
[23:13] <dork> not to mention it takes a lot longer to boot a livecd than a liveusb
[23:13] <KM0201> DriversBroken: you could also try downloading clonezilla.. it's a bootable cd/usb.. it's fairly simple, and there's several walkthroughs on their site.
[23:13] <dork> and computers typically have usb ports in the back where they cant be seen
[23:13] <fizyplankton> pfifo: hes leaving his laptop here for a few days, then hes coming back to get it. that will be my chance for sabotage
[23:13] <DriversBroken> dr_Willis and Viking667:  I'm not very knowledgable with the terminal
[23:13] <DIL> guymager
[23:14] <DriversBroken> dr_Willis:  I have no idea what /dev/sda1 means
[23:14] <fizyplankton> pfifo: and its a JOKE. i dont want to aactually reformat his partition table andd crap. i just want to freak him out
[23:14] <tonytraductor> yeah, that' s what I meant, sshd_config
[23:14] <pfifo> fizyplankton, install a dual boot system for him, hell he might like it
[23:14] <sudokill> fizyplankton, set his wallpaper to a screenshot with program icons on it or something so he tries to click on them
[23:14] <dr_Willis> DriversBroken: time to read a few docs. a typo with dd can erase the system
[23:14] <pfifo> fizyplankton, gparted a small 4-6 GB partition
[23:14] <dork> fizyplankton: you install it on a thumb drive and boot from the thumb drive, you just put the thumb drive in and change the boot order in the bios to boot from removable media
[23:14] <tonytraductor> says listening on port 22
[23:14] <dr_Willis> !mount | DriversBroken
[23:15] <DriversBroken> dr_Willis:  I don't have the time to read a ton of documentation...
[23:15] <fizyplankton> sudokill: oh yeah. take a screen shot of his background, then make all the icons hidden and minimize the startbar? those pranks are old
[23:15] <sudokill> i know
[23:15] <sudokill> :) lol
[23:15] <dr_Willis> DriversBroken:  ddrescue can take days to run
[23:15] <dork> DriversBroken: it's a one page manual
[23:15] <DIL> http://guymager.sourceforge.net/
[23:15] <fizyplankton> dork: he has a laptop, and hell notice the usb\
[23:15] <dork> he'll notice the cd spinning
[23:16] <dork> and the excessive length of time it takes to load the livecd to ram
[23:16] <DriversBroken> dork:  And that's just the manual for mounting.
[23:16] <fizyplankton> dork: maybe not. his cd is really quiet
[23:16] <DriversBroken> dr_Willis:  I only have like 30 gigabytes to image, shouldn't take days
[23:16] <pfifo> fizyplankton, install grub on the computer and put a kernel and initrd on the ntfs partition that just boots a simple live system
[23:16] <fizyplankton> dork: all he needs to see is UBUNTU logo on startup for him to shit his pants
[23:16] <dr_Willis> DriversBroken:  and what disk is the data on
[23:16] <pfifo> inb4 !language
[23:17] <DriversBroken> dr_Willis:  Samsung F3 Spinpoint...
[23:17] <dr_Willis> DriversBroken:  check    sudi fdisk -l   output
[23:17] <dr_Willis> you need the device.. the /dev   name
[23:17] <Nobgul-bnc> Just change the boot logo.
[23:18] <sudokill> its very hard to do that on windows
[23:18] <dr_Willis> sudo fdisk -l
[23:18] <Nobgul-bnc> no it is not.
[23:18] <fizyplankton> pfifo: i might just use a knoppix live cd. no offence to ubuntu, but knoppix WILL work for my evil purposes
[23:18] <DriversBroken> dr_Willis:  Oh, ok, thanks
[23:18] <pfifo> fizyplankton, in that case just install grub2 and give it an ubuntu logo for the splash screen, maybe even rename the "mocrosoft windows" entry to ubuntu just to trick him even more
[23:18] <sudokill> Nobgul-bnc, it is on windows 7
[23:18] <sudokill> like a 500 page thread on it
[23:18] <dr_Willis> !ddrescue
[23:19] <fizyplankton> pfifo: i dont want to change even one bit on his hdd. all im changing is boot order. everything else will be done from the live cd
[23:19] <tonytraductor> I don' t get it.  sshd is running, listenig on port 22, no router (standalond box on modem).  I can ssh OUT, but not IN
[23:19] <tonytraductor> and there is no firewall
[23:19] <dork> tonytraductor: firewall?
[23:19] <Nobgul-bnc> iptables
[23:19] <fizyplankton> tonytraductor: did you sudo apt-get install openssh-server?
[23:19] <dork> tonytraductor: install nmap and do nmap -sT localhost on the machine
[23:19] <dr_Willis> ssh -vvv     for verbose error mrssages
[23:19] <Nobgul-bnc> I am thinking that mabey you diabled password auth and its looking for a key?
[23:19] <dork> see if it's running, but netstat suggests it already is
[23:19] <securityxxxpert> Is it feasible to install Windows 7 as a dual boot when you already have an home dir encrypted setup of Ubuntu 11.04?
[23:20] <dork> tonytraductor: can you ssh localhost?
[23:20] <tonytraductor> no. I sudo aptitude installed openssh-server, (and sshd is running, as I sai)
[23:20] <sudokill> tonytraductor, i got no exp with ssh :s but is it somehting to do with hosts.allow?
[23:20] <tonytraductor> yes, I can ssh localhost
[23:20] <Nobgul-bnc> Then it is a firewall issue or ipchains or tables w/e
[23:20] <tonytraductor> that's why I'm wondering if its the ISP, or something.
[23:20] <dork> tonytraductor: /sbin/iptables -L
[23:21] <dork> produces nothing?
[23:21] <Nobgul-bnc> Guess it could be the isp blocking port 22 change it to something higher in the 8000 range
[23:21] <dork> also sudo ufw stop
[23:21] <DIL> port forwarding?
[23:21] <dork> seems like a router/acl issue
[23:21] <hazamonzo> Anyone use Mangler? (ventrilo client). Im tols its on the repo but its not :s http://www.mangler.org/download/
[23:21] <dork> tonytraductor: if you think your isp is filtering it change the port to 443 and try that
[23:21] <tonytraductor> I do get output from iptables -L  should I pastebin it?
[23:21] <Nobgul-bnc> hazamonzo, i do yes
[23:21] <tonytraductor> ok, how to change port to 443?
[23:21] <dork> tonytraductor: turn iptables off first
[23:22] <tonytraductor> change that in sshd_config?
[23:22] <hazamonzo> Nobgul-bnc: Where did you get a copy?
[23:22] <dork> tonytraductor: paste it
[23:22] <dork> pastbine
[23:22] <DriversBroken> wait... I have to image to a directory?
[23:22] <dork> pastebin i mean
[23:22] <Nobgul-bnc> hazamonzo,  Fom the website. mangler's
[23:22] <DriversBroken> I mean a partition?
[23:22] <fizyplankton> tonytraductor: go to grc.com, click on sheilds up, click on SheildsUp(under hotspots), click procede, then click common ports in the blue box
[23:23] <Nobgul-bnc> hazamonzo, http://www.mangler.org/downloads/debian/mangler_1.2.0-1_i386.deb
[23:23] <tonytraductor> ok, output from iptables: http://blinguas.homelinux.net/pnopaste/?17
[23:23] <dr_Willis> DriversBroken:  you can image from a device  to a file
[23:23] <sudokill> or just do netstat -plantu
[23:23] <hazamonzo> Nobgul-bnc: Cheers
[23:23] <dork> thats not the problem
[23:23] <dr_Willis> DriversBroken:  then mount the image and copy stuff from it
[23:23] <Nobgul-bnc> hazamonzo, thats the older version. the new one you have to compile from source. Which is easy enough to do but. It's up to you
[23:23] <jeeves_moss> is there a good CLI utility that will query the CDDB to auto update a MP3's ID3Tag info?
[23:24] <dork> tonytraductor: you can't ssh in from the LAN? or do you only have public IP's?
[23:24] <dork> tonytraductor: got an IP?
[23:25] <tonytraductor> that grc.com thing seems to indicate ports 1` thru 100 are closed, (which includes 22)
[23:25] <tonytraductor> yes, I do have an ip 76.200.213.55
[23:25] <dork> tonytraductor: if you're tring to ssh into a box that is behind a router you need to create a nat to port 22
[23:25] <dork> nat aka port forwarding
[23:26] <tonytraductor> this machine is not on a lan, when I try to ssh in from my house (remote)_ can
[23:26] <tonytraductor> can not get in
[23:26] <epicelite> Hello? :3
[23:26] <tonytraductor> its my moms machine. I am on it right now (although ssh-ed out to use irrsi on my home machine)
[23:26] <dork> tonytraductor: go change it to listen on port 443
[23:26] <tonytraductor> I know. there is no router here. just a modem
[23:26] <epicelite> Can anyone help me with a Ubuntu install, it's my first time.
[23:26] <tonytraductor> ok, how to change port I do not konw
[23:27] <Nobgul-bnc> sshd_config
[23:27] <dork> nmap suggests this is a microsoft box
[23:27] <atari2600a> can you / will you be able to re-arrange workspaces in Unity?
[23:27] <atari2600a> cause that's more or less the only thing that's killing it for me right now
[23:27] <tonytraductor> do I just change that in sshd_config? or is there more to it? (no router, I know how to opern ports on router, but that shouldn't be necessary here)
[23:27] <atari2600a> well, that & the loss of the GOOD appIndicator
[23:27] <dork> seems like there's a 1:1 nat on a MS box somewhere behing whatever router is handing out the IP
[23:27] <dr_Willis> atari2600a:  rearange how
[23:28] <atari2600a> dr_Willis, like put into a row instead of a box, add more, etc
[23:28] <dork> tonytraductor: sshd_config find the port variable, change it to 443
[23:28] <linxeh> does anyone know how to go about updating the firmware in an ocz vertex 2e from ubuntu ?
[23:28] <dork> reload ssh
[23:28] <dr_Willis> they hav to be 2x N
[23:29] <epicelite> Anyone? I'm trying to install Ubuntu but at the set up partitions part all the buttons are grayed out and it won't let me continue.
[23:29] <atari2600a> dr_Willis, I'm fine with that, but I still need the ability to re-arrange
[23:29] <pfifo> pfifo@ubuntu:~$ telnet 76.200.213.55 22 Trying 76.200.213.55... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[23:29] <dr_Willis> atari2600a:  yiu can add more
[23:29] <atari2600a> otherwise Unity would be a major downgrade
[23:29] <atari2600a> or at least a bitch to get used to
[23:29] <Argorok> Hi, does anyone use Mercurial? I need helo and explanation of some things
[23:29] <dork> pfifo: port scan it, it's showing open/filtered ports but not ssh, bunch of MS services on it, definitely not an ubuntu box
[23:29] <dr_Willis> 2x4 2x 100 or whatever you want
[23:29] <Nobgul-bnc> linxeh,  you must have winblows to update it
[23:30] <dr_Willis> i rarely use the desktops feature these days
[23:30] <pfifo> dork rpc is open it seems
[23:30] <dork> msrpc is filtered
[23:31] <dork> either way it shouldn't be there
[23:31] <someone--> unrar can't extract something. it says filename too long. how to extrct into another filename?
[23:31] <Nobgul-bnc> COuld he be running a windows vmware machine that the ports are being forwarded to?
[23:31] <dork> i don't think the box is using a real routable iP address
[23:31] <dork> Nobgul-bnc: not if the vps' ethernet adapter is bridged
[23:31] <dork> it would have no impact
[23:32] <andregabriel_> I run command rails console and after a long time I get: DEAD. it aint entering.... what coud be the problem?
[23:32] <linxeh> Nobgul-bnc: they released a linux firmware updater a while ago, but I dont seem to be able to find much about it now. I've updated in the past using it, but I dont have the files any more and need to update a drive in a laptop
[23:32] <chrome_> "The command could not be located because '/usr/games' is not included in the PATH environment variable." how I can I fix this?
[23:32] <Nobgul-bnc> linxeh,  I have never seen the linux one would be interested in getting it
[23:32] <someone--> or, how to increate this limit in the filename length. (could be in a tmpfs; I extract there, then rename)
[23:34] <pfifo> Nobgul-bnc, so,IS this box a M$ box?
[23:34] <dork> i think it's a nat ip
[23:34] <dork> tonytraductor: pastebin an ifconfig please
[23:34] <linxeh> Nobgul-bnc: its called fwupd, but I cant find it on their updated website atm
[23:35] <pfifo> Nobgul-bnc, disregard that
[23:35] <pfifo> tonytraductor, so,IS this box a M$ box?
[23:35] <tekkidd> hey anyone here got a google+ invite
[23:36] <dork> it's either a windows machine running an ubuntu vps with layer 3, or he's being handed a local nat IP and using whatismyipaddress.com or something to see his ip address
[23:36] <linxeh> Nobgul-bnc: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?82289-OCZ-SandForce-Linux-based-firmware-update-tool&s=66f2b5c31a39195d2ba61dd03df28370
[23:36] <pfifo> dork, layer 3, im getting sbcglobal.net
[23:37] <dork> pfifo: layer three on the box hosing the vps
[23:37] <dork> and not layer 2
[23:37] <Gaara_> So
[23:37] <Gaara_> My Camera is working on Cheese
[23:37] <Gaara_> But Skype doesn't seem to work with it
[23:37] <Gaara_> :c
[23:37] <dork> sbc is ppoe so i'm pretty sure it's not a nat issue from the ISP
[23:37] <dork> pppoe
[23:37] <pfifo> dork, its not a VPS, its a residential service
[23:38] <dork> pfifo: i'm saying he's using a windows machine to virtualize ubuntu
[23:38] <dork> and the connection the vps is using is in nat mode not bridge mode
[23:38] <chrome_> anybody can tell me if the "/usr/games/" is withing the PATH env variable... By typing echo $PATH
[23:39] <Gaara_> Sephiroth, from DesertOperations?
[23:39] <pfifo> dork, im betting hes stealing bandwidth from his neighbors wifi (possibly without knowing), and they have a M$ box in DMZ
[23:39] <dork> yeah that would do it too
[23:39] <dork> lol
[23:39] <wildbat> chrome_:  yes
[23:39] <dork> wish he would spit out an ifconfig
[23:39] <chrome_> thanks
[23:39] <qin> chrome_: Yes.
[23:39] <tonytraductor> I changed port from 22 to 443. when I try 22, says connection refused (expected now), when I try port 443, says name or service not known?
[23:40] <dork> tonytraductor: pastebin an ifconfig
[23:40] <qin> tonytraductor: What is ip of your ssh-server???
[23:40] <Gaara_> My Camera is working on Cheese, But Skype doesn't seem to work with it :c
[23:40] <dork> pfifo: if he were doing that his router wouldn't be handing out a public ip, so it's coming down to the ifconfig.
[23:40] <tonytraductor> ifconfig pate: http://blinguas.homelinux.net/pnopaste/?18
[23:41] <dork> nat
[23:41] <tonytraductor> no, this is a peppermint os box (ubuntu based LXDE distro)
[23:41] <ubuntunoobie2903> When I click on an icon it does not minimize the window. Any ideas?
[23:41] <tonytraductor> IP of which server?
[23:41] <dork> tonytraductor: you have a router handing out a local ip somewhere,
[23:41] <tonytraductor> no router, connected directly to modem
[23:42] <dork> tonytraductor: you need to set up a nat/port forward from the ip on the wan interface of the router giving you an ip, to the local ip
[23:42] <dork> tonytraductor: the modem is a router/modem
[23:42] <tonytraductor> there is no router
[23:42] <DIL> is not dialup?
[23:42] <tonytraductor> I have no access to the modem, it belongs to the ISP
[23:42] <dork> tonytraductor: your modem is a router. 192.168.* is a local ip address, it is not routable from the internet, you need to log into the ROUTER and forward port 22 to that ip
[23:42] <pfifo> tonytraductor, YES, your modem has a built in router
[23:42] <qin> tonytraductor: Ip of mashine which supposed to run ssh server, machine you cannot connect to.
[23:43] <Gaara_> ‬My Camera is working on Cheese, But Skype doesn't seem to work with it :c
[23:43] <tonytraductor> ip here is 76.200.213.55
[23:43] <dork> tonytraductor: on your router's wan interface
[23:43] <tonytraductor> I have no idea how to get into this modem
[23:43] <dork> what is it a linkshit?
[23:43] <dork> open up a browser go to 192.168.1.1
[23:43] <tonytraductor> some AT&T crap
[23:43] <dork> or type route see what the GW is
[23:43] <pfifo> tonytraductor, go here http://192.168.1.1
[23:44] <th0r> Gaara_: I have the same problem in debian. It appears to be a problem with skype, as my webcam works with linphone as well
[23:44] <wildbat> dork ~ LOL! linkshit ~ ...... you make me laugh ~
[23:44] <Gaara_> N'awe :(
[23:44] <dork> figure out the credentials and inside the ROUTER you can port forward the real ip, the 76.200 ip, to the 192.168 ip, you will want to change the ubuntu box to a static local ip so it doesn't change
[23:44] <Gaara_> I want to skype with my bf, frigging pain that the cam ACTUALLY works, Skype!!
[23:44] <pfifo> dork, why on earth would his modem have windows ports open?
[23:45] <dork> pfifo: seems like a 1:1/dmz
[23:45] <pfifo> dork, but not 22?
[23:45] <dork> a 1:1 nat to a windows box
[23:45] <dork> i bet his mom has one, but typically you have to create the dmz/1:1 nat
[23:45] <pfifo> dork, but he said its just the 1 computer
[23:45] <zelo> how to run uck in console mode?
[23:46] <dork> yah
[23:46] <pfifo> dork, maybe its doing it by default to prevent customer support... or maybe via the previous customer setting it up
[23:47] <wildbat> Gaara_: your skype  didn't detect it or something ?
[23:47] <dork> could be, the windows machine probably had some sort of proprietary ATT support software installed that did some sort of upnp type thing that dmz'd the windows host
[23:47] <Gaara_> I'm not too sure
[23:47] <Gaara_> It shows the device i think.. but it displays a black screen if i go to test it
[23:48] <Gaara_> Select camera : USB Camera (/dev/video1)
[23:49] <holmes> cheapo ATT crap modem...touch it and it goes offline
[23:49] <pfifo> Cable > DSL
[23:49] <holmes> I can not access this modem/router at 192.168.1.1 (that' s my router ip at home,.  apparently this is not a lynksissy)
[23:50] <DIL> 192.168.1.254
[23:50] <dork> holmes: type route, the gw is going to be the modem's management interface
[23:50] <dork> DIL is probably corrrect
[23:51] <DriversBroken> dr_Willis:  I ended up using gparted to copy the partition, which was even smart enough to copy it to unallocated space :)
[23:51] <holmes> Ive got it listening on 443 now, still can' t get in (1 thru 1`00 blocked, I would guess by the ISP)
[23:51] <dork> holmes: you're not hearing me, you need to get into the router
[23:52] <holmes> but, yeah, I see what you mean, this modem IS a router, but I have no idea how to get in and tell it to forward ssh to 443
[23:52] <Gaara_> Anyone know how to instal a version of skype that works with webcams >_>
[23:52] <dork> google/call att
[23:52] <dork> Gaara_: never had a problem with skype on linux not working with web cams
[23:52] <pfifo> holmes, I would cal ATT chances are your going to need a password from them anyway
[23:52] <Anon08> hey guys. Does anyone know how to solve th recording issue on ubuntu 11.04?
[23:52] <holmes> forget that microsoft skype bullsh1+3
[23:52] <spacebug-> holmes: what modem/router is it? model nr / brand
[23:52] <Gaara_> dork ;(, so what would you suggest then?
[23:53] <DIL> 192.168.1.254 is att default
[23:53] <spacebug-> ok
[23:53] <spacebug-> tried that holmes ?
[23:53] <dork> Gaara_: google through it
[23:53] <pfifo> Gaara_, I get issues too, cam goes all dark and noone can see me
[23:53] <dork> Gaara_: if it's a common enough issue it will produce google results that might provide a fix
[23:53] <holmes> some ATT crap.
[23:53] <holmes> this thing says my nick is in use...
[23:54] <Gaara_> :( - Hate googling, the anwsers always confused me
[23:54] <Gaara_> im not good with linux/ubuntu
[23:54] <dork> holmes: it's a ghost, you have to kill the ghost if it's registered
[23:54] <Gaara_> But, I'll try :3
[23:54] <spacebug-> ok holmes forget that about brand / model, have you tried go to http://192.168.1.254 ?
[23:54] <dork> Gaara_: it's part of the responsibility of knowing how to use linux.
[23:54] <holmes> yeahg, I was on and the connection dumped...
[23:54] <holmes> I AM tonytraductor
[23:54] <holmes> one moment
[23:54] <Gaara_> Yeah I know, but i only just upgraded to linux
[23:55] <dork> holmes: it's a registered nickname, so assuming you have the password type /quote nickserv ghost tonytraductor password
[23:55] <DriversBroken> my hdd is making rhythymic noises.  Is that bad?
[23:55] <dork> holmes: actually change your nick now the ghost has died.
[23:55] <pfifo> Windows to Ubuntu is considered an upgrade now?
[23:55] <tonytraductor> ha...had to kill irssi on my home machine
[23:56] <tonytraductor> windows to any linux is an upgrade, duh
[23:56] <pfifo> DriversBroken, yes it is
[23:56] <tonytraductor> see, I can ssh out of here to my home machine, but I can not ssh from anywher TO here...
[23:56] <DriversBroken> pfifo:  What are you talking about?
[23:56] <tonytraductor> the key is in this crap ATT modem/router...
[23:56] <DriversBroken> pfifo:  I never mentioned windows
[23:56] <pfifo> DriversBroken, HDD is not supposed to make noise
[23:56] <spacebug-> of course you can
[23:57] <dork> tonytraductor: this isn't a problem unique to the router, this situation exists on every router
[23:57] <spacebug-> now tonytraductor, we cannot help you anymore if you dont try the tings we tell you to try
[23:57] <DriversBroken> pfifo:  oh right.
[23:57] <tonytraductor> looks like the mode/router has a firewall...doing some googling
[23:57] <thezanke> is there a quick user lock hotkey like windows+L?
[23:58] <DriversBroken> pfifo:  Stopped now, and I'm putting these in RAID 1, so I won't worry
[23:58] <DriversBroken> thezanke:  CTRL ALT L
[23:58] <dork> tonytraductor: get access to the router i'll tell you how to do it. it's not a firewall issue, well it is but it's a feature that is a default feature of any router
[23:58] <thezanke> DriversBroken, ty
[23:58] <pfifo> DriversBroken, you can install/check S.M.A.R.T. compatible programs, but I already know what their going to say, backup your data, drive failure is imminent
[23:58] <DriversBroken> pfifo:  Um, I'm not even sure if my hdd was making the noise.  And there's no data on the drive.
[23:59] <solayagim> Hello folks
[23:59] <pfifo> DriversBroken, min has always been a clicking solowed by a high pithces motor revving up sound
[23:59] <spacebug-> hey
[23:59] <solayagim> is there any way to change "logout user" text ?