[01:11] <truepurple> hi
[03:40] <fuzzeoly> hello?
[05:11] <ApOgEE> hi all
[07:15] <aztek> hey, any body knows how to create offline repo?
[07:18] <tenach> aztek: for which system?
[07:19] <aztek> i copy revo prom dvd to my box...
[07:28] <aztek> i ccopy repo from DVD to my box and i wanna make off line repo...
[07:31] <r4y> Hello, I don't want to make a data CD. I have Ubuntu 10.10 and Windows XP. I typically use Windows Media Player to write CDs and Nero to write DVD. I am wondering is there a way to fit more time then 80 minutes on a CD with data that can fit with in 700 MB using either Ubuntu or Windows XP?
[07:32] <r4y> I meant as audio, sorry.
[10:50] <r4y> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1096938 It would take a special CD player. I am not sure if that's the only way, but I looked at a few links I Googled. Bye
[15:46] <kristian-aalborg> bleacbit, Y U take forever?!
[15:48] <stlsaint> i love bleachbit :D
[15:49] <kristian-aalborg> me too
[15:49] <kristian-aalborg> but should it take half an hour?
[15:49] <kristian-aalborg> on a regular, even smallish desktop system?
[15:54] <aztek> any body know how make local repo in hdd?
[16:26] <kristian-aalborg> aztek, how do you mean?
[16:26] <kristian-aalborg> kmandla dabbled in it some years ago
[16:28] <aztek> i have just copied ubuntu natty repo from my friend, i don't know how to use it...
[16:31] <kristian-aalborg> the entire repo?
[16:31] <aztek> yup...
[16:32] <aztek> there are folders dists and pool...
[16:37] <kristian-aalborg> it's much easier to just use the internet
[16:37] <kristian-aalborg> also, fresher files
[16:38] <kristian-aalborg> and sorry, no I don't know
[16:40] <aztek> i just have limited connection, so i wanna use it..
[17:01] <Error404NotFoun1> holstein:
[17:02] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: hey... whats up?
[17:02] <Error404NotFoun1> nothing much, having problems...
[17:02] <Error404NotFoun1> when i boot ubuntu my mouse dont work for several minutes after boot
[17:03] <Error404NotFoun1> logitech performance mx
[17:03] <holstein> and then it works?
[17:03] <holstein> without issue?
[17:04] <Error404NotFoun1> yep
[17:04] <Error404NotFoun1> does it on 2 diff computers
[17:04] <Error404NotFoun1> 3 different installs of ubuntu
[17:04] <holstein> might just take that long for something to load i suppose
[17:04] <holstein> bluetooth?
[17:05] <Error404NotFoun1> no bt
[17:05] <holstein> yeah.. who knows
[17:05] <holstein> if it were me, id just wait
[17:05] <holstein> if its just a few minutes
[17:05] <holstein> devices like that can literally *never* work, or have decent support
[17:06] <holstein> you could probably find a more development minded person, and ask about what gets loaded when and why and trouble shoot getting it to load faster
[17:07] <kristian-aalborg> Error404NotFoun1, a regular wired mouse?
[17:08] <holstein> http://reviews.logitech.com/7061/5845/logitech-performance-mouse-mx-reviews/reviews.htm
[17:12] <hudo> hi, I got lucid and an external usb dvd-drive
[17:13] <hudo> how can I identify which device it is to blank a dvdrw medium with cdrecord /dev/mycdrom blank=fast
[17:13] <hudo> sorry , cdrecord dev=/dev/mycdrom blank=fast
[17:14] <holstein> hudo: i usually just try auto-complete and guessing
[17:14] <holstein> i suppose you could right click on the icon on the desktop and gather some info, or maybe navigate there in nautilus or cd around and ls
[17:25] <coalwater> i think my ufw is blocking empathy's file transfers, any idea what port/app i should allow ?
[17:44] <coalwater> ok ill have to figure that later lol
[18:08] <guitar> hello all
[18:09] <IdleOne> guitar: welcome. Feel free to ask questions in here and be patient :)
[18:10] <guitar> I am...i see you everywhere
[18:10] <guitar> ha
[18:10] <guitar> okay...i have a pc at work with internet, but the one at home isn't online
[18:11] <guitar> i want to download programs from this pc and transfer to the one at home
[18:11] <guitar> there doesn't seem to be a "save file" option
[18:12] <guitar> KNo201 has been investigating the issue, but my PC doesn't have a Disc burner, but it does have a flash
[18:12] <guitar> sorry...usb port so i can use my flash drive
[18:15] <holstein> guitar: you have 2 ubuntu boxes?
[18:16] <holstein> one without internet?
[18:16] <guitar> right
[18:16] <holstein> depending on what you want to install, that could be challenging
[18:16] <holstein> totally do-able though
[18:16] <guitar> so i'm told
[18:16] <holstein> let me give you the process in broad strokes
[18:16] <holstein> say you want something like vlc... you would look for something like vlc.deb
[18:17] <holstein> you also need *all* the dependancies
[18:17] <holstein> thats the tricky part depending on how many dependanies
[18:17] <guitar> there are programmers who work on ubuntu...right
[18:17] <holstein> you might consider downloading whatever the ubuntu equvialent is to the 6 DVD's (or whatever) debian has
[18:18] <holstein> you can then point synaptic to use those discs for software instead of the online repositories
[18:18] <holstein> AFAIK, you can also make a disc like that for your 'no internet' box
[18:19] <guitar> holstein...you lost me at vlc :)
[18:19] <holstein> guitar: if it were me... i would go to a freinds house with internet, plug it in, and do what needs to be done
[18:19] <guitar> you're right of course
[18:19] <holstein> guitar: you'll need to have an alternate source
[18:19] <holstein> that could be a DVD
[18:20] <guitar> my pc here doesn't even have a burner
[18:20] <holstein> http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/ for example
[18:20] <holstein> guitar: you'll need to do something... burn a CD, make a USB volume... plug it in
[18:20] <guitar> i was reading about ubuntu last night
[18:20] <holstein> this is linux... everything is open and freely available, so the answer is "yes"
[18:21] <holstein> you just need to choose how you want to proceed
[18:21] <guitar> i would like to drop this idea in the suggestion box
[18:22] <holstein> guitar: ??
[18:22] <holstein> what idea?
[18:22] <holstein> apt-on-cd is one way
[18:22] <guitar> it's a caviot...not much needed in the wired world, but
[18:22] <holstein> the other way is to download what you want on to DVD
[18:22] <guitar> i also type slow
[18:22] <guitar> sorry
[18:22] <holstein> theres already several ways to do it
[18:23] <holstein> the issue is... i havent needed to do it that way
[18:23] <guitar> ok
[18:23] <holstein> i used a CD as a repo once
[18:23] <guitar> can i use a flash drive?
[18:23] <guitar> apt on flash
[18:23] <holstein> not a lot of us on the internet are going to have an excuse other than morbid curiosity to have tried it
[18:23] <holstein> since we are online
[18:23] <guitar> right...the digital divide
[18:24] <guitar> i live on the other side of the tracks..so to speak
[18:24] <guitar> metaphorically of course
[18:24] <holstein> guitar: i can most assuradly say yes, you can
[18:24] <holstein> you can take a CD/DVD image if needed, and put that on the USB drive
[18:24] <guitar> how
[18:25] <holstein> you just use an image file instead of an actual piece of plastic
[18:25] <guitar> talk me through it please
[18:26] <holstein> i would check out
[18:26] <holstein> http://www.planetoss.com/detail.php?id=13
[18:27] <holstein> guitar: just read that by the way.. dont go copying and pasting
[18:27] <holstein> thats an old post... some of it would need to be modernized
[18:27] <guitar> ok...and i appreciate your time
[18:27] <holstein> this is more current
[18:27] <holstein> http://basicubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/02/install-on-ubuntu-without-internet.html
[18:28] <guitar> you know what I like about this chat room?
[18:28] <guitar> it saves all the info
[18:28] <holstein> yeah.. officially logged :)
[18:28] <guitar> how long does it stay
[18:28] <holstein> good question... i think the goal is always
[18:29] <guitar> perfect...i was getting so much info from so many people and it sorta..you know
[18:30] <holstein> guitar: well, like is said, most of us havent had that need, so its theoretical to me
[18:30] <holstein> i know its do-able though... ive talked to folks who have done it
[18:31] <holstein> no issues as long as you dont need newer software than what is on the image you have
[18:31] <holstein> and, you can always burn or make a new archive with newer pacakges
[18:31] <guitar> ok...i'll check it out
[18:31] <guitar> thanks holstein
[18:32] <holstein> guitar: sure... good luck, let us know how it goes
[18:32] <DodgyDave> can anyone help with a KINO issue ?
[18:35] <holstein> DodgyDave: whats the issue?... you might need to track down a kino channel
[18:40] <DodgyDave> when I start Kino  and try to capture video, all I get is a black screen. The red record button isn't lit so I cant capture any video
[18:41] <holstein> i would say #ubuntustudio, but i would skip that channel and go right to the ubuntustudio mailing list
[18:41] <holstein> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users its actually quite active, and there are a few video folks
[18:42] <holstein> maybe #mythbuntu?
[18:42] <holstein> DodgyDave: other than the obvious stuff like double checking the connections and configs, not sure whatelse
[18:43] <DodgyDave> I seem to remeber seeing something about having to put a command in the terminal to make it work
[18:44] <holstein> relating to your specific hardware?
[18:54] <DodgyDave> no Kino in general
[19:47] <kristian-aalborg> anyone streaming TV?
[19:47] <kristian-aalborg> I'm thinking there might be some small app... looking for legal stuff, of course
[20:15] <E3D3> Hi, I need to use LAMP server for offline php-development.
[20:15] <E3D3> I know absolute nothing from ip, dhcp,server, ports etc.
[20:15] <E3D3> Does somebody knows a crashcourse for noobs ?
[20:16] <zkriesse> well are you looking to have a localhost etc?
[20:16] <zkriesse> With a database etc?
[20:17] <E3D3> I just want to offline experimenting with PHP, all extraas scare me but whats necessary I will do.
[20:17] <zkriesse> Well if you wanna play with PHP just play with it lol
[20:17] <zkriesse> You shouldn't need all kinds of junk to practice coding
[20:18] <E3D3> How can I run my code. I have now a /var/www but (copied php-examples) still don't work.
[20:18] <zkriesse> Ok what all have you done?
[20:18] <zkriesse> Let's start with that
[20:19] <E3D3> Installed LAMP, Apache, PHP5 & requirements.
[20:19] <zkriesse> Hmmm ok
[20:19] <E3D3> All tuts expect I know something about internet connections
[20:20] <E3D3> I just want to program & leave connections aside
[20:20] <zkriesse> Indeed
[20:20] <zkriesse> Which is localhost programming
[20:21] <zkriesse> Program, display it on your machine in a web browser to see what it looks like etc
[20:21] <E3D3> You mean, the examples I tried ?
[20:21] <zkriesse> No i'm talking about actual coding
[20:21] <zkriesse> You want to try coding well how are you going to view it when you have say a webpage coded
[20:22] <zkriesse> You'll need to view it in a web browser on your machine ;)
[20:22] <E3D3> That exactly my point
[20:23] <E3D3> I did but only html-part works, no php-signs
[20:23] <zkriesse> What's your code?
[20:23] <zkriesse> That you're trying to view
[20:24] <E3D3> Something like this (on html-file) : <?php echo"Hi"; ?>
[20:25] <E3D3> & <?php include("menu.php"); ?> with a menu in menu.php
[20:25] <zkriesse> pastebin it please
[20:26] <E3D3> Okay, one moment please
[20:26] <zkriesse> :)
[20:39] <E3D3> http://jsfiddle.net/zWpka/ [I used the javaScript-block for the menu.php]
[20:44] <E3D3> zkriesse: Had to restart 2 times so give the link again : http://jsfiddle.net/zWpka/
[20:45] <zkriesse> E3D3: what are you using to edit your code?
[20:45] <E3D3> Now Kate text-editor
[20:46] <E3D3> Im in Linux Mint, thought every editor is okay
[20:46] <E3D3> Like to use gEdit to
[20:48] <E3D3> I placed the .html & .php in /var/www/ & another instance of my browser popped up ? Had to kill its process
[20:48] <zkriesse> hmm
[20:49] <zkriesse> Argh
[20:49] <zkriesse> I'm soooo sorry but i gotta run!
[20:49] <E3D3> Thanks, & run
[20:49] <zkriesse> Just wait and you should get helped though :)
[20:50] <E3D3>  :'(
[21:13] <kristian-aalborg> http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/229187/30_days_with_ubuntu_linux_day_1.html
[21:13] <kristian-aalborg> this is an interesting read
[21:15] <froq> kristian-aalborg, I am going to read it! :)
[22:08] <E3D3> Hi, Im in SuperOS & my Update Manager has 450 update. Only want updating one. How can I unceck the other 449 (not manually) ?
[22:09] <holstein> E3D3: i would just go to synaptic, and search for the package you want to update, and mark it to be updated... hit apply
[22:10] <E3D3> It cant, there's no update option there ?
[22:11] <E3D3> I only can remove it with synaptic.
[22:11] <holstein> you 'right-click' on the package
[22:11] <holstein> theres a 'mark for upgrade' option
[22:11] <E3D3> Did
[22:11] <E3D3> No
[22:12] <holstein> you'll have to take a screen shot of that then
[22:12] <holstein> maybe you have a rev'd verion of synaptic that im unaware of
[22:12] <E3D3> Where can I paste that screenshot ?
[22:13] <holstein> i usually use http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[22:15] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=722130
[22:15] <holstein> this thread says that sudo apt-get install package name will check to see if the latest version is installed, and offer to upgrade
[22:15] <E3D3> Cant make a screenshot with right-mouse window, used the PrtSc-key, other ways to try ?
[22:16] <E3D3> I try the terminal command
[22:16] <holstein> E3D3: well, thats not the issue
[22:16] <holstein> what are you trying to upgrade?
[22:16] <E3D3> opera browser
[22:17] <holstein> how about just unchecking all
[22:17] <holstein> and just go and check opera
[22:17] <E3D3> Than I lose my configuration/addons etc ??
[22:18] <holstein> im not following...
[22:18] <E3D3> My update manager has >450 update I dont want & no uncheck all, fun ;-)
[22:18] <E3D3> Guess you talk about the update manager
[22:18] <holstein> i think you can right click there too and select none?
[22:18] <holstein> theres an option... pretty sure
[22:18] <holstein> im not using 11.04 though
[22:19] <E3D3> Must be, I'll try r-click there.
[22:20] <holstein> powers out
[22:20] <holstein> gotta shut down
[22:20] <holstein> bbl
[22:20] <E3D3> R-click there did it, if I knew that before. Not use to that. Feel so stupid (& tirred)
[22:31] <E3D3> Can someone tell this noob an easy way to learn to program PHP offline ?
[22:33] <holstein> E3D3: hey... i didnt lose power :)
[22:34] <holstein> i like these guys http://www.w3schools.com/php/default.asp
[22:34] <holstein> you can always archive it locally i supose
[22:36] <E3D3> Hi holstein, you helped me nice but I as far as when I started this morning.
[22:37] <holstein> hey... it could be worse... you could have broken something and be worse off ;P
[22:37] <E3D3> Right, but I broken my little brain.
[22:38] <E3D3> PHP coding seems so easy that I wish how to start.
[22:38] <E3D3> I know JavaScript, looks familiar
[22:39] <E3D3> I already read most of the w3schools php-part. It dont talk how to build an offline envirenment for it.
[22:40] <holstein> OH... any LAMP would probably do
[22:40] <E3D3> holstein: Do you think that I'm too stupid or nagging.
[22:40] <holstein> check out http://www.turnkeylinux.org/lampstack
[22:41] <holstein> you could run that in virtualbox
[22:41] <E3D3> I have LAMP installed but know nothing about servers, ip etc
[22:41] <holstein> E3D3: i dont think that...
[22:41] <E3D3> Lost in all those terms that has nothing to do with PHP
[22:41] <holstein> E3D3: i say, just take it slow... start with "whats my ip"
[22:41] <holstein> you can open a terminal and run
[22:42] <holstein> ifconfig
[22:42] <holstein> that'll give you the IP of the box you are on
[22:42] <holstein> your not trying to serve a box out to the internet, so this'll be easier 'in theory'
[22:43] <E3D3> This is a different OS then I used 1 hour ago so have to find my VirtualBox first
[22:43] <holstein> i run test servers like that in virtualbox in bridged networking mode, and the guests get an IP from the local router
[22:45] <E3D3> hmm I first have to install VirtualMachine in this OS. Already get lost in bridged ... & local router, Im never thought about that things
[22:45] <holstein> E3D3: those turnkey appliances i linked actually run well live or installed
[22:46] <holstein> the normal setup in virtualbox is to share your network
[22:46] <holstein> SO the guest doesnt get its own IP
[22:47] <E3D3> Whow man, this doesn't say anything to me, Im really an connection noob
[22:47] <holstein> thats usually just fine, BUT, if you want to have a test server available, you use 'bridged adapter'
[22:47] <holstein> E3D3: google around, or ask me questions... whatever it takes
[22:47] <holstein> you'll need to absorb it somehow
[22:47] <holstein> IF you want a test server in Vbox to be available on your network
[22:47] <holstein> thats how you do it
[22:48] <holstein> i did a presenation the other day at my LUG on turnkey linux and other servers and thats what i did
[22:51] <E3D3> Maybe I should have asked for a internet beginners study instead of offline php programming ?
[22:51] <holstein> E3D3: this might be a nice resource for you
[22:51] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetAndNetworking
[22:52]  * holstein needs to try and catch a nap... BBL
[22:54] <E3D3> Thanks man, iguess thats better than asking endlessly. But its huge info, do I need all that seriously ?
[22:55] <E3D3> May I tell you something private, not sure how to do that. /msg name message ?
[22:55] <tenach> E3D3: correct.
[22:56] <E3D3> tenach: Thanks
[22:56] <tenach> No problem. :)
[23:09] <kristian-aalborg> alright, I just set up a box for my sis
[23:09] <kristian-aalborg> I got Ooo, media players etc etc
[23:10] <kristian-aalborg> some Tux games for the kids
[23:42] <kristian-aalborg> halp halp halp
[23:42] <kristian-aalborg> I mailed someone a bunch of rar files, an archive in multiple parts
[23:43] <kristian-aalborg> now this person has to unpack them.... what software should I suggest, I guess he is on XP or Vista or 7
[23:43] <kristian-aalborg> my heart says 7zip, but winrar might be better, right?
[23:43] <Error404NotFoun1> kristian-aalborg:  winrar
[23:44] <Error404NotFoun1> if hes using vista or 7 he shouldnt need extra software
[23:50] <kristian-aalborg> yes, I recall winrar as being pretty solid
[23:51] <kristian-aalborg> I packed this with the rar command fwiw
[23:54] <kristian-aalborg> I linked to both, said start with Winrar