[14:55] <niemeyer> Hello!
[15:00] <hazmat> niemeyer, hallo!
[15:00] <hazmat> niemeyer, i think most of the state side people are watching fireworks today
[15:00] <hazmat> er. us
[15:01] <niemeyer> hazmat: Oh?
[15:01] <hazmat> niemeyer, 4th of july holiday, us independence day
[15:01] <niemeyer> hazmat: Ahhh, superb
[15:01] <niemeyer> hazmat: Congrats then! :)
[15:02] <hazmat> niemeyer, thanks, dc is a mad house already with security.. i dropped kaleb (my son) off at camp this morning, it was a ghost town besides road closures
[15:02] <niemeyer> hazmat: Crazy.. I'd expect that would be _the_ place for the celebrations
[15:02] <hazmat> niemeyer, i'll be hacking today.. how was your trip back?
[15:03] <niemeyer> hazmat: It was very good.. it was a new experience for me as well to go straight to a conference on arrival
[15:03] <hazmat> niemeyer, it will be this evening, crazy amount of fireworks in the area
[15:03] <hazmat> niemeyer, cool, was that FISL?
[15:03] <niemeyer> hazmat: Yeah
[15:04] <hazmat> niemeyer, cool, i've always heard good things about that conference
[15:04] <niemeyer> hazmat: It was pretty nice indeed.. was also very happy to have a talk on Ensemble that people understood, for a change. :-)
[15:05] <hazmat> niemeyer, indeed, being able to see and touch it, makes a big difference
[15:05] <hazmat> niemeyer, i've just been in  bug-fixing and support mode the last few days, i'm going to setup deploy to auto add peer relations and take a look at the relation-broken bug
[15:06] <hazmat> that's on my plate for today, along with trying to push some security stuff
[15:06] <hazmat> niemeyer, what's the next sprint date?
[15:07] <niemeyer> hazmat: Monday (!)
[15:07] <hazmat> niemeyer, ??!
[15:07] <hazmat> niemeyer, i'm mia till july 23rd
[15:07] <niemeyer> hazmat: (The list of things sounds awesome)
[15:07] <hazmat> niemeyer, the review queue definitely needs some love... i think i've got reviews in all the items that i haven't put in
[15:08] <niemeyer> hazmat: I'll check the queue once I manage to handle some of the key conversations going on
[15:08] <hazmat> niemeyer, we might need to revisit the 2 reviews per branch.. it sounds like we're going to need more rapid turnaround.. and 50% team buy in per branch might be excessive atm
[15:08] <hazmat> niemeyer, sounds goodf
[15:08] <niemeyer> hazmat: Re. the sprint, it'll be about bare metal deployments
[15:08] <niemeyer> hazmat: In Miami
[15:08] <hazmat> niemeyer, i'm not going to be able to make any sprints till july 23rd while kaleb is in town.
[15:09] <niemeyer> hazmat: I'll attend, and will try to have William there
[15:09] <hazmat> niemeyer, cool re william
[15:09] <niemeyer> hazmat: No worries.. if you could be somewhat hooked in as you were last week, that'd already be awesome
[15:10] <hazmat> niemeyer, sounds good... when's the next next sprint ;-)
[15:10] <hazmat> is that austin in august?
[15:10] <niemeyer> hazmat: Austin, early next month
[15:10] <hazmat> cool
[15:10] <niemeyer> hazmat: Yep
[15:15]  * hazmat grabs an espresso
[16:13] <niemeyer> Lunch time
[16:53] <hazmat>    
[17:04] <_mup_> Bug #805554 was filed: Ensemble from ppa does not work with nova. <Ensemble:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/805554 >
[17:17] <kim0> Is it ok to file a bug to break the one service-unit per instance assumption?
[17:46] <niemeyer> Restarting due to kernel change..
[17:46] <niemeyer> kim0: It certainly is, assuming there's nothing there yet
[17:55] <_mup_> Bug #805585 was filed: Break the one service-unit per instance assumption <Ensemble:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/805585 >
[18:54] <franciscosouza> niemeyer: ping
[18:55] <hazmat>   franciscosouza anything i could help you with?
[18:55] <franciscosouza> last saturday I went to a conference where niemeyer presented an ensemble demo video, do you know where I can get/watch this video?
[19:04]  * hazmat looks around
[19:05] <hazmat> franciscosouza, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMHcy63wRL0 and  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxMhKbDSbOw
[19:05] <hazmat> are the two extant videos that i know of
[19:06] <franciscosouza> thank you, that's what I was looking for :)
[19:16] <_mup_> Bug #791042 was filed: *-relation-broken has no way to identify which remote service is being broken <Ensemble:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/791042 >
[21:34] <daker> any formula expert here ?
[21:34] <daker> or an ensemble expert :)
[21:41] <daker> my formula has state: install_error, how can i know what's going on with it, debug-log doesn't show any thing useful :/
[21:46] <hazmat> daker, hmm.. yeah. there's an outstanding issue with debug log and install hooks (the log isn't active till after the debug hook)
[21:46] <hazmat> er after the install hook
[21:47] <hazmat> daker, so there are two options, using debug-hooks right after deploying to debug the install hook, or checking the on disk log of the unit agent to see what happened with the failed installed hook
[21:48] <daker> hazmat, the logs are located in ?
[21:48] <hazmat> daker, to check the on disk file.. ensemble ssh service_unit_name  && cd /var/lib/ensemble/units/service_unit_name/ && cat formula.log (i think)
[21:49] <daker> ah ok
[22:07] <niemeyer> hazmat: It sounds like we should rethink this in the near term
[22:07] <niemeyer> Something like a rolling log, at least, might be nice
[22:08] <niemeyer> Maybe even better would be to have easier access to the on-disk log