| lucas | Laney: done | 06:11 |
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| Rhonda | micahg: uh? Not directly | 06:30 |
| Rhonda | apt-cache showsrc gnash | grep Build-Depends | head -1 | sed -e 's/,/\n/g' | wc -l | 06:31 |
| Rhonda | 38 | 06:32 |
| benonsoftware | Hi all | 08:26 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:32 |
| benonsoftware | Evening :) | 08:32 |
| benonsoftware | How are you? | 08:38 |
| iulian | Morning dholbach. | 08:41 |
| dholbach | hey iulian, hey benonsoftware | 08:41 |
| benonsoftware | How are you going? | 08:41 |
| dholbach | good good, still a bit sleepy though :) | 08:44 |
| dholbach | another coffee will hopefully fix this | 08:44 |
| Laney | haha, I didn't mean to publish that MOTU post to planet | 08:46 |
| Laney | oops :P | 08:46 |
| benonsoftware | What post? | 08:46 |
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| highvoltage | Laney: heh, I didn't notice it was a draft or anything :) | 15:23 |
| Laney | I just had it in a branch locally then accidently pushed it | 15:23 |
| Laney | it had tags 'draft planetubuntu' which meant it went to planet ;( | 15:24 |
| Laney | oh well | 15:24 |
| Laney | wasn't really a draft, I posted it to -motu ages ago | 15:24 |
| Laney | just didn't fancy publicising it on planet | 15:24 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: so you're feeling more motivated since joining -release? | 15:25 |
| highvoltage | motuvated :) | 15:25 |
| Laney | somewhat | 15:25 |
| tumbleweed | it certainly gave me a bit of focus | 15:25 |
| Laney | I feel less bad about ignoring the other stuff :P | 15:26 |
| tumbleweed | heh | 15:26 |
| Laney | being a DD probably helped more in that regard though | 15:26 |
| Laney | s/being/becoming/ | 15:27 |
| highvoltage | I've been extremely unmotivated (or maby just lazy and perhaps someowhat confused?) recently but I just resigned to the fact that I can't get everything perfect and can't always stay 100% up to date with everything and I should just worry less and things will eventually work out. (but that's bigger than motu stuff though, applies to all the other things I'm behind with too) | 15:27 |
| Laney | I guess people tend to move on from general MOTU work | 15:29 |
| * tumbleweed hasn't been a particularly active DD. Sponsor a pile of debian-python stuff, and trying to get the transition done, that's about it | 15:29 | |
| Laney | I remember being really enthusiastic about doing a zillion merges | 15:29 |
| tumbleweed | highvoltage: I think we all see ourselves as lazy, because we know how much more there is we could do | 15:30 |
| * tumbleweed feels bad about all the stuff I neglect, but one needs to have a life (and some lazy days) too | 15:31 | |
| tumbleweed | Laney: so, are you doing anything with the ubuntu_uploads table yet? | 15:33 |
| Laney | not yet | 15:33 |
| * tumbleweed must write a sponsorship-locating UDD script | 15:33 | |
| Laney | might write that DEXy script later | 15:33 |
| tumbleweed | lucas: what's the best place to stage UDD scripts? (I know there was a recent debian-devel thread on iths, but it died) | 15:34 |
| Laney | but then again it's a nice day for a post-work bike ride so maybe not | 15:34 |
| highvoltage | tumbleweed: yeah I mostly use my previous cycle as a reference. I had a lot more done by alpha2 last time, but at least there's still time to catch up :) | 15:34 |
| Laney | I wrote some goals at the start of this cycle | 15:34 |
| Laney | achieved most of them apart from the one that's probably the most useful to others... getting involved with backports | 15:35 |
| Laney | *cough* | 15:35 |
| tumbleweed | well, there's a fair amount of cycle left :) | 15:35 |
| highvoltage | that was one of my goals too and with some prodding from daniel I actually spent some time on it :) | 15:35 |
| highvoltage | (didn't have an *actual* backport done yet but there's a few bugs I've started working on at least) | 15:36 |
| Laney | I did look at some at UDS, but not since | 15:36 |
| Laney | hopefully the queue gets down so that some people can subscribe to the bugs and keep on top of it | 15:36 |
| highvoltage | I was actually thinking last night that I need some big display up in my home office cycling through stats and pages and my to do list so that I can keep up to date with what's important right now and what I should be working on. but just the idea of having that pushes my stress levels up so I decided against it :) | 15:38 |
| Laney | my conclusion is that you shouldn't try to do everything yourself | 15:39 |
| Laney | it's more worthwhile trying to convince new people to get involved | 15:39 |
| Laney | and I'm not very good at doing that, so I try to work with the people who are :-) | 15:41 |
| * Laney hugs nigelb | 15:41 | |
| tumbleweed | which is already something we need to be putting effort into anyway | 15:41 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, thanks nigelb. The ftbfs jam was fun (even if I didn't fix any myself :P ) | 15:41 |
| Laney | more people = less work = less guilt = more fun | 15:41 |
| tumbleweed | we are pretty dependant on people coming and finding us and wanting to contribute, though. My reaching out and trying to get people involved hasn't worked too well... | 15:42 |
| Laney | we could upload some adware... | 15:43 |
| Laney | 'Come join #ubuntu-motu!' | 15:43 |
| Laney | 'If you fix one bug, this advert will go away' | 15:43 |
| highvoltage | hmm... I did get $50 worth of google adwords when signing up for something recently and I didn't know what to do with it :) (I guess with $50 only a few dozen people will see it) | 15:44 |
| dupondje | Some merges / syncs need to be done ? :) | 15:44 |
| highvoltage | (sorry I know you're just joking) | 15:45 |
| Laney | :P | 15:45 |
| Laney | dupondje: many things always need doing | 15:46 |
| Laney | start with FTBFS or NBS or rcbugs | 15:46 |
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| dupondje | lets update my pbuilder :) | 15:48 |
| Laney | or pick your favourite package and look at its bugs | 15:49 |
| Laney | Rhonda: did you ever figure out how to run web accessible scripts against UDD? | 15:55 |
| Laney | Rhonda: p.s. please put your PPU application in | 15:55 |
| dupondje | Laney: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ispell => can you trigger a rebuild ? | 15:58 |
| dupondje | its building fine now (seems like it was build when dpkg was broken) | 15:58 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: I don't think it's possible. I'm currently generating a static html file on wagner and syncing it to vasks :/ | 16:00 |
| Laney | dupondje: can't, it's in main | 16:04 |
| Laney | try in #-devel | 16:05 |
| Laney | tumbleweed: what a pain :( | 16:05 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: indeed, I also have some more interactive things I'd like to have working :) | 16:06 |
| tumbleweed | but one can't have personal cgi's on alioth anyway, so other options would be preferable | 16:06 |
| dupondje | Question: i'm fixing pdns ftbfs. Issue is that it can't find sqlite3.h (which is in libsqlite3-dev: /usr/include/sqlite3.h). | 16:25 |
| dupondje | But it only looks in 'SQLITE_lib_check="/usr/local/sqlite/lib/sqlite /usr/local/lib/sqlite /opt/pgsql/lib/sqlite /usr/lib/sqlite /usr/local/sqlite/lib /usr/local/lib /opt/sqlite/lib /usr/lib"' | 16:25 |
| dupondje | Is the best way to fix this: 1) change debian/rules to add --sqlite3-path ? | 16:25 |
| dupondje | 2) add /usr/include/ in the configure ? | 16:25 |
| tumbleweed | dupondje: looks like a library search path rather than a header seach path | 16:25 |
| dupondje | looking wrong indeed :) | 16:28 |
| lucas | tumbleweed: wagner.d.o | 16:29 |
| lucas | tumbleweed: (part of alioth) | 16:30 |
| dupondje | libsqlite3-dev: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsqlite3.so | 16:30 |
| tumbleweed | lucas: one can't put cgis in public_html, though | 16:30 |
| tumbleweed | and wagner proxies to vasks :/ | 16:30 |
| lucas | tumbleweed: no, but you can a project's htdocs dir | 16:30 |
| tumbleweed | is there a qa / udd project we can abuse? | 16:31 |
| Laney | collab-qa? | 16:31 |
| tumbleweed | ah, thanks | 16:31 |
| Laney | don't know if that kind of script is wanted in there though | 16:32 |
| jtaylor | dupondje: those are the new multiarch paths, you can get it with dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH | 16:33 |
| jtaylor | or you use pkg-config | 16:33 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: well, for the ubuntu stuff, we could use ubuntu-dev | 16:35 |
| dupondje | jtaylor: whats the best way to follow ? | 16:36 |
| dupondje | any examples btw ? | 16:37 |
| Laney | tumbleweed: right, or the dex one I suppose | 16:37 |
| Laney | tumbleweed: which project is it? could you add me? | 16:40 |
| jtaylor | dupondje: this should work http://paste.ubuntu.com/637994/ | 16:41 |
| jtaylor | or instead of patching the source add that to configure in rules | 16:42 |
| jtaylor | probably better | 16:42 |
| jtaylor | --with-sqlite3-lib=`dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH` | 16:43 |
| jtaylor | +/usr/lib | 16:43 |
| dupondje | but whats that debian-pdns/rules vs debian/rules ? :) | 16:43 |
| jtaylor | maybe upstream has an own debian directory | 16:44 |
| dupondje | then it gets renamed and isn't used ? | 16:44 |
| jtaylor | yes and dpkt 3.0 removes all upstream debian rules on unpacking | 16:45 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: you appear to already be a member. I just applied | 16:45 |
| Laney | not as my DD account then | 16:45 |
| tumbleweed | ah right | 16:46 |
| dupondje | lets build | 16:46 |
| tumbleweed | dupondje: if you are looking for more FTBFS packages, here's last week's jam list: http://corelli.tumbleweed.org.za/ubuntu-qa/bugjam/ | 16:47 |
| Laney | applied | 16:47 |
| DktrKranz | tumbleweed, Laney: I'll process you as soon as my password is somehow restored | 16:49 |
| dupondje | I need a quadcore | 16:52 |
| dupondje | damn :° | 16:52 |
| dupondje | checking for SQLite3 library directory... /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu | 16:54 |
| dupondje | allright :D | 16:54 |
| dupondje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdns/+bug/756198 | 17:00 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 756198 in pdns (Ubuntu Oneiric) "pdns version 2.9.22-8 failed to build on i386" [High,New] | 17:00 |
| dupondje | does it looks fine ? | 17:00 |
| tumbleweed | LGTM | 17:02 |
| dupondje | added ubuntu-sponsors :) | 17:03 |
| dupondje | next one now :D | 17:03 |
| micahg | Rhonda: right, I meant it pulled in that many packages at build time, it's the most I've seen yet | 17:11 |
| dupondje | mmmm | 17:57 |
| dupondje | i'm merging courier, but in debian/rules there is: if [ `umask` != "0022" ]; then echo "You need to set umask to 022 in order to compile/build courier"; exit 1; fi | 17:57 |
| dupondje | but how to set the umask ? :s | 17:58 |
| tumbleweed | with the umask command | 17:59 |
| dupondje | yea but I don't get where exactly :) | 18:01 |
| dupondje | http://ubuntu.dupondje.be/merge.debdiff | 18:01 |
| dupondje | this is the debdiff I have atm | 18:01 |
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| dupondje | It wasn't set in the previous version in ubuntu | 18:03 |
| dupondje | so quite strange it now fails on that | 18:03 |
| tumbleweed | dupondje: pbuilder? | 18:04 |
| dupondje | y | 18:04 |
| tumbleweed | yeah it doesn't look like you have to make any changes for ubuntu, but you might need to tweak your pbuilder | 18:04 |
| tumbleweed | dupondje: debian bug 531885 | 18:05 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 531885 in cowbuilder "cowbuilder: build fails with restrictive umask" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/531885 | 18:05 |
| tumbleweed | oh, know apparetly that's cowbuilder only | 18:05 |
| tumbleweed | anyway, it has a workaround suggestion | 18:06 |
| dupondje | I see :) | 18:06 |
| dupondje | lets try it out | 18:06 |
| tumbleweed | jtaylor: I marked the bugs where you attached the patch in the Debian BTS (and didn't assign it to yourself) as "Triaged". That shows up in summary listings. | 18:19 |
| jtaylor | k | 18:19 |
| jtaylor | you can mark 803174 too | 18:20 |
| tumbleweed | jsut did :) | 18:21 |
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| jtaylor | hey finally one thats seems like a challenge, timbleserver is resistant to the usual as-needed-fixes | 18:55 |
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| jtaylor | one of its rdeps uses -fopenmp wrong | 19:03 |
| jtaylor | b-deps | 19:04 |
| tumbleweed | did it affect any other packages too? | 19:05 |
| jtaylor | probably not its libtimbl, probably no other package uses it | 19:06 |
| tumbleweed | pity :) | 19:06 |
| dupondje | stupid umask :) seems the workaround doesn't work for pbuilder-dist | 19:27 |
| Rhonda | Laney: No, and I think the thread that was started on debian-devel died off with no real solution. I was told that it should be possible to do it on the QA server and I should join the team, but there are still unresponded questions pending. | 19:35 |
| Rhonda | Laney: And where shall I put my PPU application in? When is the next meeting? | 19:35 |
| Laney | Rhonda: you need to email devel-permissions@ and add yourself to the agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda | 19:40 |
| Laney | next meeting is 18/7 | 19:40 |
| Rhonda | Ah, right, that was that then. | 19:43 |
| Rhonda | 18/7 I'll be in bosnia, so that would fit | 19:43 |
| Rhonda | … I hope the network will be working at that time of DebCamp already. ;) | 19:45 |
| Rhonda | huhm | 19:47 |
| Rhonda | waiting for login.ubuntu.com … | 19:47 |
| Laney | heh | 19:47 |
| Laney | that old problem... | 19:48 |
| Rhonda | Shall I put me with 3 into it? | 19:49 |
| Laney | yep | 19:49 |
| Rhonda | The (E) is confusing me here. | 19:49 |
| Laney | 19:49 | |
| Laney | that one is stalled since sylvestre hasn't replied to some questions | 19:49 |
| Rhonda | damn | 19:50 |
| Rhonda | hmm | 19:50 |
| Rhonda | there was some edit hint that i noticed when I clicked safe … | 19:50 |
| Laney | we had a big backlog some time ago and processed a few applications over email instead of IRC | 19:50 |
| Rhonda | though the time it displayed was a single minute | 19:50 |
| Laney | might have been my lock | 19:51 |
| Laney | if so, i was finished anyway | 19:51 |
| Rhonda | Ah yes, was yours | 19:57 |
| jtaylor | hmm does libtool not like fopenmp? | 19:57 |
| jtaylor | it seems to drop that flag for linking | 19:57 |
| jtaylor | which is wrong | 19:57 |
| jtaylor | yes it does | 19:59 |
| jtaylor | what a piece of crap | 19:59 |
| jtaylor | is there anything this thing makes easier and not harder? | 20:00 |
| Ampelbein | jtaylor: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-libtool/2011-03/msg00024.html suggests it's been fixed. | 20:03 |
| jtaylor | yes but timblserver uses an old version | 20:04 |
| Ampelbein | yay for ltmain.sh patching | 20:04 |
| jtaylor | libtimbl I mean | 20:05 |
| jtaylor | tumbleweed: please triage bug 803205 | 20:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 803205 in timblserver (Ubuntu) "timblserver version 1.2-4 failed to build on i386" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803205 | 20:14 |
| dupondje | pbuilder broken ? :s | 20:21 |
| tumbleweed | jtaylor: oh right, you aren't in bug control :/ | 20:28 |
| fabrice_sp | dupondje, it seems more to be some missing lib or .o in the link command | 20:45 |
| dupondje | fabrice_sp: to what question you are replying now ? :) | 20:48 |
| fabrice_sp | dupondje, sorry: I thought you were saying that builds was broken to 803205. Should I read better! sorry | 20:49 |
| dupondje | np :D | 20:49 |
| dupondje | pbuilder is broken :( | 20:49 |
| fabrice_sp | I uses sbuild ;-) | 20:49 |
| dupondje | + mount -t proc /proc /var/cache/pbuilder/build//14569/proc | 20:49 |
| dupondje | mount: /proc already mounted or /var/cache/pbuilder/build//14569/proc busy | 20:49 |
| dupondje | mount: according to mtab, /proc is mounted on /proc | 20:49 |
| fabrice_sp | dumb question, but did you try to reboot? | 20:51 |
| fabrice_sp | I sometimes messup my schroots and end up with this kind of errors | 20:51 |
| dupondje | yep I did :s | 20:52 |
| dupondje | /var/cache/pbuilder/build//14569/proc is really mounted. | 20:53 |
| dupondje | seems like mount reply changed ? | 20:53 |
| fabrice_sp | so it's trying to mount it twice? | 20:53 |
| fabrice_sp | are you using natty as your main system? | 20:53 |
| dupondje | it looks like its mounting twice indeed | 20:55 |
| dupondje | oneiric | 20:55 |
| fabrice_sp | I'm installing pbuilder in an oneiric schroot, to see if it happens the same | 20:57 |
| dupondje | only happens on create | 20:58 |
| fabrice_sp | pbuilder create worked here | 21:01 |
| dupondje | weird :s | 21:01 |
| fabrice_sp | this is in a schroot, so mounts may acts differently | 21:02 |
| dupondje | wanted to create a new pbuilder, and now its completely broken :( | 21:03 |
| dupondje | ok | 21:06 |
| dupondje | seems like its a debootstrap bug | 21:06 |
| fabrice_sp | bug 595908? | 21:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 595908 in debootstrap (Ubuntu) "--create fails due to failure to mount /proc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595908 | 21:08 |
| dupondje | Well I did: $ sudo debootstrap --include=apt --variant=buildd --keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg oneiric . http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ | 21:10 |
| dupondje | this mounted proc into the chroot debootstrap | 21:10 |
| dupondje | and when its done, its not unmounted | 21:10 |
| dupondje | so its still mounted when pbuilder tries to mount | 21:10 |
| fabrice_sp | if hte directory is different, this shouldn't be an issue, as proc is mounted several times (in each chrrot ) | 21:11 |
| fabrice_sp | do you have any pbuilderrc files? | 21:11 |
| fabrice_sp | (in etc or $HOME) | 21:11 |
| dupondje | I had, removing it now, and trying again | 21:15 |
| fabrice_sp | ok. fyi, I updated my chroot and it worked again | 21:16 |
| dupondje | nope, remove pbuilderrc | 21:19 |
| dupondje | and still fails :s | 21:19 |
| dupondje | somehow | 21:19 |
| dupondje | jean-louis@laptop-jl:~$ sudo mount -t proc /proc /home/jean-louis/test/proc/ | 21:20 |
| dupondje | mount: /proc already mounted or /home/jean-louis/test/proc/ busy | 21:20 |
| dupondje | mount: according to mtab, /proc is mounted on /proc | 21:20 |
| dupondje | but its not listed in df -a | 21:20 |
| fabrice_sp | this works here | 21:24 |
| dupondje | weird :s | 21:26 |
| fabrice_sp | yeah | 21:26 |
| dupondje | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631087 | 21:26 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 631087 in pbuilder "pbuilder failed to create base.tgz (mount: /proc already mounted or /var/cache/pbuilder/build//24199/proc busy)" [Important,Open] | 21:26 |
| dupondje | some debian users have same | 21:26 |
| dupondje | but no solution :s | 21:26 |
| dupondje | jean-louis@laptop-jl:~/test$ sudo umount /home/jean-louis/test/proc/ | 21:28 |
| dupondje | umount: /proc: device is busy. | 21:28 |
| dupondje | this is weird | 21:28 |
| dupondje | lsof |grep test shows nothing :s | 21:29 |
| fabrice_sp | when mounted by mount -t proc /proc, it shows in /etc/mtab, so it's weird in your case. Sorry I can't help | 21:33 |
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| Elbrus | can somebody tell me how to get a request for rebuild the proper tagging in launchpad (bug 805677) | 21:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 805677 in lazarus (Ubuntu) "Oneiric: please rebuild lazarus, it depends on an old fpc version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805677 | 21:43 |
| Elbrus | or should I ask this in #ubuntu-bugs? | 21:43 |
| micahg | Elbrus: subscribe ubuntu-sponsors | 21:44 |
| Elbrus | will do | 21:46 |
| Elbrus | done | 21:47 |
| * Elbrus going to sleep now ... productive day it has been | 21:48 | |
| dupondje | debootstrapper is really doing something weird | 21:57 |
| dupondje | ok | 22:08 |
| dupondje | its not debootstrapper :( | 22:08 |
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