[06:11] Laney: done [06:30] micahg: uh? Not directly [06:31] apt-cache showsrc gnash | grep Build-Depends | head -1 | sed -e 's/,/\n/g' | wc -l [06:32] 38 [08:26] Hi all [08:32] good morning [08:32] Evening :) [08:38] How are you? [08:41] Morning dholbach. [08:41] hey iulian, hey benonsoftware [08:41] How are you going? [08:44] good good, still a bit sleepy though :) [08:44] another coffee will hopefully fix this [08:46] haha, I didn't mean to publish that MOTU post to planet [08:46] oops :P [08:46] What post? === Tm_K is now known as Tm_T === Senjai is now known as Senjai|Busy === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:23] Laney: heh, I didn't notice it was a draft or anything :) [15:23] I just had it in a branch locally then accidently pushed it [15:24] it had tags 'draft planetubuntu' which meant it went to planet ;( [15:24] oh well [15:24] wasn't really a draft, I posted it to -motu ages ago [15:24] just didn't fancy publicising it on planet [15:25] Laney: so you're feeling more motivated since joining -release? [15:25] motuvated :) [15:25] somewhat [15:25] it certainly gave me a bit of focus [15:26] I feel less bad about ignoring the other stuff :P [15:26] heh [15:26] being a DD probably helped more in that regard though [15:27] s/being/becoming/ [15:27] I've been extremely unmotivated (or maby just lazy and perhaps someowhat confused?) recently but I just resigned to the fact that I can't get everything perfect and can't always stay 100% up to date with everything and I should just worry less and things will eventually work out. (but that's bigger than motu stuff though, applies to all the other things I'm behind with too) [15:29] I guess people tend to move on from general MOTU work [15:29] * tumbleweed hasn't been a particularly active DD. Sponsor a pile of debian-python stuff, and trying to get the transition done, that's about it [15:29] I remember being really enthusiastic about doing a zillion merges [15:30] highvoltage: I think we all see ourselves as lazy, because we know how much more there is we could do [15:31] * tumbleweed feels bad about all the stuff I neglect, but one needs to have a life (and some lazy days) too [15:33] Laney: so, are you doing anything with the ubuntu_uploads table yet? [15:33] not yet [15:33] * tumbleweed must write a sponsorship-locating UDD script [15:33] might write that DEXy script later [15:34] lucas: what's the best place to stage UDD scripts? (I know there was a recent debian-devel thread on iths, but it died) [15:34] but then again it's a nice day for a post-work bike ride so maybe not [15:34] tumbleweed: yeah I mostly use my previous cycle as a reference. I had a lot more done by alpha2 last time, but at least there's still time to catch up :) [15:34] I wrote some goals at the start of this cycle [15:35] achieved most of them apart from the one that's probably the most useful to others... getting involved with backports [15:35] *cough* [15:35] well, there's a fair amount of cycle left :) [15:35] that was one of my goals too and with some prodding from daniel I actually spent some time on it :) [15:36] (didn't have an *actual* backport done yet but there's a few bugs I've started working on at least) [15:36] I did look at some at UDS, but not since [15:36] hopefully the queue gets down so that some people can subscribe to the bugs and keep on top of it [15:38] I was actually thinking last night that I need some big display up in my home office cycling through stats and pages and my to do list so that I can keep up to date with what's important right now and what I should be working on. but just the idea of having that pushes my stress levels up so I decided against it :) [15:39] my conclusion is that you shouldn't try to do everything yourself [15:39] it's more worthwhile trying to convince new people to get involved [15:41] and I'm not very good at doing that, so I try to work with the people who are :-) [15:41] * Laney hugs nigelb [15:41] which is already something we need to be putting effort into anyway [15:41] yeah, thanks nigelb. The ftbfs jam was fun (even if I didn't fix any myself :P ) [15:41] more people = less work = less guilt = more fun [15:42] we are pretty dependant on people coming and finding us and wanting to contribute, though. My reaching out and trying to get people involved hasn't worked too well... [15:43] we could upload some adware... [15:43] 'Come join #ubuntu-motu!' [15:43] 'If you fix one bug, this advert will go away' [15:44] hmm... I did get $50 worth of google adwords when signing up for something recently and I didn't know what to do with it :) (I guess with $50 only a few dozen people will see it) [15:44] Some merges / syncs need to be done ? :) [15:45] (sorry I know you're just joking) [15:45] :P [15:46] dupondje: many things always need doing [15:46] start with FTBFS or NBS or rcbugs === cr3_ is now known as cr3 [15:48] lets update my pbuilder :) [15:49] or pick your favourite package and look at its bugs [15:55] Rhonda: did you ever figure out how to run web accessible scripts against UDD? [15:55] Rhonda: p.s. please put your PPU application in [15:58] Laney: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ispell => can you trigger a rebuild ? [15:58] its building fine now (seems like it was build when dpkg was broken) [16:00] Laney: I don't think it's possible. I'm currently generating a static html file on wagner and syncing it to vasks :/ [16:04] dupondje: can't, it's in main [16:05] try in #-devel [16:05] tumbleweed: what a pain :( [16:06] Laney: indeed, I also have some more interactive things I'd like to have working :) [16:06] but one can't have personal cgi's on alioth anyway, so other options would be preferable [16:25] Question: i'm fixing pdns ftbfs. Issue is that it can't find sqlite3.h (which is in libsqlite3-dev: /usr/include/sqlite3.h). [16:25] But it only looks in 'SQLITE_lib_check="/usr/local/sqlite/lib/sqlite /usr/local/lib/sqlite /opt/pgsql/lib/sqlite /usr/lib/sqlite /usr/local/sqlite/lib /usr/local/lib /opt/sqlite/lib /usr/lib"' [16:25] Is the best way to fix this: 1) change debian/rules to add --sqlite3-path ? [16:25] 2) add /usr/include/ in the configure ? [16:25] dupondje: looks like a library search path rather than a header seach path [16:28] looking wrong indeed :) [16:29] tumbleweed: wagner.d.o [16:30] tumbleweed: (part of alioth) [16:30] libsqlite3-dev: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsqlite3.so [16:30] lucas: one can't put cgis in public_html, though [16:30] and wagner proxies to vasks :/ [16:30] tumbleweed: no, but you can a project's htdocs dir [16:31] is there a qa / udd project we can abuse? [16:31] collab-qa? [16:31] ah, thanks [16:32] don't know if that kind of script is wanted in there though [16:33] dupondje: those are the new multiarch paths, you can get it with dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH [16:33] or you use pkg-config [16:35] Laney: well, for the ubuntu stuff, we could use ubuntu-dev [16:36] jtaylor: whats the best way to follow ? [16:37] any examples btw ? [16:37] tumbleweed: right, or the dex one I suppose [16:40] tumbleweed: which project is it? could you add me? [16:41] dupondje: this should work http://paste.ubuntu.com/637994/ [16:42] or instead of patching the source add that to configure in rules [16:42] probably better [16:43] --with-sqlite3-lib=`dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH` [16:43] +/usr/lib [16:43] but whats that debian-pdns/rules vs debian/rules ? :) [16:44] maybe upstream has an own debian directory [16:44] then it gets renamed and isn't used ? [16:45] yes and dpkt 3.0 removes all upstream debian rules on unpacking [16:45] Laney: you appear to already be a member. I just applied [16:45] not as my DD account then [16:46] ah right [16:46] lets build [16:47] dupondje: if you are looking for more FTBFS packages, here's last week's jam list: http://corelli.tumbleweed.org.za/ubuntu-qa/bugjam/ [16:47] applied [16:49] tumbleweed, Laney: I'll process you as soon as my password is somehow restored [16:52] I need a quadcore [16:52] damn :° [16:54] checking for SQLite3 library directory... /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu [16:54] allright :D [17:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdns/+bug/756198 [17:00] Ubuntu bug 756198 in pdns (Ubuntu Oneiric) "pdns version 2.9.22-8 failed to build on i386" [High,New] [17:00] does it looks fine ? [17:02] LGTM [17:03] added ubuntu-sponsors :) [17:03] next one now :D [17:11] Rhonda: right, I meant it pulled in that many packages at build time, it's the most I've seen yet [17:57] mmmm [17:57] i'm merging courier, but in debian/rules there is: if [ `umask` != "0022" ]; then echo "You need to set umask to 022 in order to compile/build courier"; exit 1; fi [17:58] but how to set the umask ? :s [17:59] with the umask command [18:01] yea but I don't get where exactly :) [18:01] http://ubuntu.dupondje.be/merge.debdiff [18:01] this is the debdiff I have atm === med_out is now known as medberry [18:03] It wasn't set in the previous version in ubuntu [18:03] so quite strange it now fails on that [18:04] dupondje: pbuilder? [18:04] y [18:04] yeah it doesn't look like you have to make any changes for ubuntu, but you might need to tweak your pbuilder [18:05] dupondje: debian bug 531885 [18:05] Debian bug 531885 in cowbuilder "cowbuilder: build fails with restrictive umask" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/531885 [18:05] oh, know apparetly that's cowbuilder only [18:06] anyway, it has a workaround suggestion [18:06] I see :) [18:06] lets try it out [18:19] jtaylor: I marked the bugs where you attached the patch in the Debian BTS (and didn't assign it to yourself) as "Triaged". That shows up in summary listings. [18:19] k [18:20] you can mark 803174 too [18:21] jsut did :) === Marce_ is now known as Marce [18:55] hey finally one thats seems like a challenge, timbleserver is resistant to the usual as-needed-fixes === tsimpson_ is now known as ts2 [19:03] one of its rdeps uses -fopenmp wrong [19:04] b-deps [19:05] did it affect any other packages too? [19:06] probably not its libtimbl, probably no other package uses it [19:06] pity :) [19:27] stupid umask :) seems the workaround doesn't work for pbuilder-dist [19:35] Laney: No, and I think the thread that was started on debian-devel died off with no real solution. I was told that it should be possible to do it on the QA server and I should join the team, but there are still unresponded questions pending. [19:35] Laney: And where shall I put my PPU application in? When is the next meeting? [19:40] Rhonda: you need to email devel-permissions@ and add yourself to the agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda [19:40] next meeting is 18/7 [19:43] Ah, right, that was that then. [19:43] 18/7 I'll be in bosnia, so that would fit [19:45] … I hope the network will be working at that time of DebCamp already. ;) [19:47] huhm [19:47] waiting for login.ubuntu.com … [19:47] heh [19:48] that old problem... [19:49] Shall I put me with 3 into it? [19:49] yep [19:49] The (E) is confusing me here. [19:49] = email [19:49] that one is stalled since sylvestre hasn't replied to some questions [19:50] damn [19:50] hmm [19:50] there was some edit hint that i noticed when I clicked safe … [19:50] we had a big backlog some time ago and processed a few applications over email instead of IRC [19:50] though the time it displayed was a single minute [19:51] might have been my lock [19:51] if so, i was finished anyway [19:57] Ah yes, was yours [19:57] hmm does libtool not like fopenmp? [19:57] it seems to drop that flag for linking [19:57] which is wrong [19:59] yes it does [19:59] what a piece of crap [20:00] is there anything this thing makes easier and not harder? [20:03] jtaylor: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-libtool/2011-03/msg00024.html suggests it's been fixed. [20:04] yes but timblserver uses an old version [20:04] yay for ltmain.sh patching [20:05] libtimbl I mean [20:14] tumbleweed: please triage bug 803205 [20:14] Launchpad bug 803205 in timblserver (Ubuntu) "timblserver version 1.2-4 failed to build on i386" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803205 [20:21] pbuilder broken ? :s [20:28] jtaylor: oh right, you aren't in bug control :/ [20:45] dupondje, it seems more to be some missing lib or .o in the link command [20:48] fabrice_sp: to what question you are replying now ? :) [20:49] dupondje, sorry: I thought you were saying that builds was broken to 803205. Should I read better! sorry [20:49] np :D [20:49] pbuilder is broken :( [20:49] I uses sbuild ;-) [20:49] + mount -t proc /proc /var/cache/pbuilder/build//14569/proc [20:49] mount: /proc already mounted or /var/cache/pbuilder/build//14569/proc busy [20:49] mount: according to mtab, /proc is mounted on /proc [20:51] dumb question, but did you try to reboot? [20:51] I sometimes messup my schroots and end up with this kind of errors [20:52] yep I did :s [20:53] /var/cache/pbuilder/build//14569/proc is really mounted. [20:53] seems like mount reply changed ? [20:53] so it's trying to mount it twice? [20:53] are you using natty as your main system? [20:55] it looks like its mounting twice indeed [20:55] oneiric [20:57] I'm installing pbuilder in an oneiric schroot, to see if it happens the same [20:58] only happens on create [21:01] pbuilder create worked here [21:01] weird :s [21:02] this is in a schroot, so mounts may acts differently [21:03] wanted to create a new pbuilder, and now its completely broken :( [21:06] ok [21:06] seems like its a debootstrap bug [21:08] bug 595908? [21:08] Launchpad bug 595908 in debootstrap (Ubuntu) "--create fails due to failure to mount /proc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595908 [21:10] Well I did: $ sudo debootstrap --include=apt --variant=buildd --keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg oneiric . http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ [21:10] this mounted proc into the chroot debootstrap [21:10] and when its done, its not unmounted [21:10] so its still mounted when pbuilder tries to mount [21:11] if hte directory is different, this shouldn't be an issue, as proc is mounted several times (in each chrrot ) [21:11] do you have any pbuilderrc files? [21:11] (in etc or $HOME) [21:15] I had, removing it now, and trying again [21:16] ok. fyi, I updated my chroot and it worked again [21:19] nope, remove pbuilderrc [21:19] and still fails :s [21:19] somehow [21:20] jean-louis@laptop-jl:~$ sudo mount -t proc /proc /home/jean-louis/test/proc/ [21:20] mount: /proc already mounted or /home/jean-louis/test/proc/ busy [21:20] mount: according to mtab, /proc is mounted on /proc [21:20] but its not listed in df -a [21:24] this works here [21:26] weird :s [21:26] yeah [21:26] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631087 [21:26] Debian bug 631087 in pbuilder "pbuilder failed to create base.tgz (mount: /proc already mounted or /var/cache/pbuilder/build//24199/proc busy)" [Important,Open] [21:26] some debian users have same [21:26] but no solution :s [21:28] jean-louis@laptop-jl:~/test$ sudo umount /home/jean-louis/test/proc/ [21:28] umount: /proc: device is busy. [21:28] this is weird [21:29] lsof |grep test shows nothing :s [21:33] when mounted by mount -t proc /proc, it shows in /etc/mtab, so it's weird in your case. Sorry I can't help === sebner_ is now known as sebner [21:43] can somebody tell me how to get a request for rebuild the proper tagging in launchpad (bug 805677) [21:43] Launchpad bug 805677 in lazarus (Ubuntu) "Oneiric: please rebuild lazarus, it depends on an old fpc version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805677 [21:43] or should I ask this in #ubuntu-bugs? [21:44] Elbrus: subscribe ubuntu-sponsors [21:46] will do [21:47] done [21:48] * Elbrus going to sleep now ... productive day it has been [21:57] debootstrapper is really doing something weird [22:08] ok [22:08] its not debootstrapper :( === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan