[06:11] <lucas> Laney: done
[06:30] <Rhonda> micahg: uh? Not directly
[06:31] <Rhonda> apt-cache showsrc gnash | grep Build-Depends | head -1 | sed -e 's/,/\n/g' | wc -l
[06:32] <Rhonda> 38
[08:26] <benonsoftware> Hi all
[08:32] <dholbach> good morning
[08:32] <benonsoftware> Evening :)
[08:38] <benonsoftware> How are you?
[08:41] <iulian> Morning dholbach.
[08:41] <dholbach> hey iulian, hey benonsoftware
[08:41] <benonsoftware> How are you going?
[08:44] <dholbach> good good, still a bit sleepy though :)
[08:44] <dholbach> another coffee will hopefully fix this
[08:46] <Laney> haha, I didn't mean to publish that MOTU post to planet
[08:46] <Laney> oops :P
[08:46] <benonsoftware> What post?
[15:23] <highvoltage> Laney: heh, I didn't notice it was a draft or anything :)
[15:23] <Laney> I just had it in a branch locally then accidently pushed it
[15:24] <Laney> it had tags 'draft planetubuntu' which meant it went to planet ;(
[15:24] <Laney> oh well
[15:24] <Laney> wasn't really a draft, I posted it to -motu ages ago
[15:24] <Laney> just didn't fancy publicising it on planet
[15:25] <tumbleweed> Laney: so you're feeling more motivated since joining -release?
[15:25] <highvoltage> motuvated :)
[15:25] <Laney> somewhat
[15:25] <tumbleweed> it certainly gave me a bit of focus
[15:26] <Laney> I feel less bad about ignoring the other stuff :P
[15:26] <tumbleweed> heh
[15:26] <Laney> being a DD probably helped more in that regard though
[15:27] <Laney> s/being/becoming/
[15:27] <highvoltage> I've been extremely unmotivated (or maby just lazy and perhaps someowhat confused?) recently but I just resigned to the fact that I can't get everything perfect and can't always stay 100% up to date with everything and I should just worry less and things will eventually work out. (but that's bigger than motu stuff though, applies to all the other things I'm behind with too)
[15:29] <Laney> I guess people tend to move on from general MOTU work
[15:29]  * tumbleweed hasn't been a particularly active DD. Sponsor a pile of debian-python stuff, and trying to get the transition done, that's about it
[15:29] <Laney> I remember being really enthusiastic about doing a zillion merges
[15:30] <tumbleweed> highvoltage: I think we all see ourselves as lazy, because we know how much more there is we could do
[15:31]  * tumbleweed feels bad about all the stuff I neglect, but one needs to have a life (and some lazy days) too
[15:33] <tumbleweed> Laney: so, are you doing anything with the ubuntu_uploads table yet?
[15:33] <Laney> not yet
[15:33]  * tumbleweed must write a sponsorship-locating UDD script
[15:33] <Laney> might write that DEXy script later
[15:34] <tumbleweed> lucas: what's the best place to stage UDD scripts? (I know there was a recent debian-devel thread on iths, but it died)
[15:34] <Laney> but then again it's a nice day for a post-work bike ride so maybe not
[15:34] <highvoltage> tumbleweed: yeah I mostly use my previous cycle as a reference. I had a lot more done by alpha2 last time, but at least there's still time to catch up :)
[15:34] <Laney> I wrote some goals at the start of this cycle
[15:35] <Laney> achieved most of them apart from the one that's probably the most useful to others... getting involved with backports
[15:35] <Laney> *cough*
[15:35] <tumbleweed> well, there's a fair amount of cycle left :)
[15:35] <highvoltage> that was one of my goals too and with some prodding from daniel I actually spent some time on it :)
[15:36] <highvoltage> (didn't have an *actual* backport done yet but there's a few bugs I've started working on at least)
[15:36] <Laney> I did look at some at UDS, but not since
[15:36] <Laney> hopefully the queue gets down so that some people can subscribe to the bugs and keep on top of it
[15:38] <highvoltage> I was actually thinking last night that I need some big display up in my home office cycling through stats and pages and my to do list so that I can keep up to date with what's important right now and what I should be working on. but just the idea of having that pushes my stress levels up so I decided against it :)
[15:39] <Laney> my conclusion is that you shouldn't try to do everything yourself
[15:39] <Laney> it's more worthwhile trying to convince new people to get involved
[15:41] <Laney> and I'm not very good at doing that, so I try to work with the people who are :-)
[15:41]  * Laney hugs nigelb 
[15:41] <tumbleweed> which is already something we need to be putting effort into anyway
[15:41] <tumbleweed> yeah, thanks nigelb. The ftbfs jam was fun (even if I didn't fix any myself :P )
[15:41] <Laney> more people = less work = less guilt = more fun
[15:42] <tumbleweed> we are pretty dependant on people coming and finding us and wanting to contribute, though. My reaching out and trying to get people involved hasn't worked too well...
[15:43] <Laney> we could upload some adware...
[15:43] <Laney> 'Come join #ubuntu-motu!'
[15:43] <Laney> 'If you fix one bug, this advert will go away'
[15:44] <highvoltage> hmm... I did get $50 worth of google adwords when signing up for something recently and I didn't know what to do with it :) (I guess with $50 only a few dozen people will see it)
[15:44] <dupondje> Some merges / syncs need to be done ? :)
[15:45] <highvoltage> (sorry I know you're just joking)
[15:45] <Laney> :P
[15:46] <Laney> dupondje: many things always need doing
[15:46] <Laney> start with FTBFS or NBS or rcbugs
[15:48] <dupondje> lets update my pbuilder :)
[15:49] <Laney> or pick your favourite package and look at its bugs
[15:55] <Laney> Rhonda: did you ever figure out how to run web accessible scripts against UDD?
[15:55] <Laney> Rhonda: p.s. please put your PPU application in
[15:58] <dupondje> Laney: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ispell => can you trigger a rebuild ?
[15:58] <dupondje> its building fine now (seems like it was build when dpkg was broken)
[16:00] <tumbleweed> Laney: I don't think it's possible. I'm currently generating a static html file on wagner and syncing it to vasks :/
[16:04] <Laney> dupondje: can't, it's in main
[16:05] <Laney> try in #-devel
[16:05] <Laney> tumbleweed: what a pain :(
[16:06] <tumbleweed> Laney: indeed, I also have some more interactive things I'd like to have working :)
[16:06] <tumbleweed> but one can't have personal cgi's on alioth anyway, so other options would be preferable
[16:25] <dupondje> Question: i'm fixing pdns ftbfs. Issue is that it can't find sqlite3.h (which is in libsqlite3-dev: /usr/include/sqlite3.h).
[16:25] <dupondje> But it only looks in 'SQLITE_lib_check="/usr/local/sqlite/lib/sqlite /usr/local/lib/sqlite /opt/pgsql/lib/sqlite /usr/lib/sqlite /usr/local/sqlite/lib /usr/local/lib /opt/sqlite/lib /usr/lib"'
[16:25] <dupondje> Is the best way to fix this: 1) change debian/rules to add --sqlite3-path ?
[16:25] <dupondje> 2) add /usr/include/ in the configure ?
[16:25] <tumbleweed> dupondje: looks like a library search path rather than a header seach path
[16:28] <dupondje> looking wrong indeed :)
[16:29] <lucas> tumbleweed: wagner.d.o
[16:30] <lucas> tumbleweed: (part of alioth)
[16:30] <dupondje> libsqlite3-dev: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsqlite3.so
[16:30] <tumbleweed> lucas: one can't put cgis in public_html, though
[16:30] <tumbleweed> and wagner proxies to vasks :/
[16:30] <lucas> tumbleweed: no, but you can a project's htdocs dir
[16:31] <tumbleweed> is there a qa / udd project we can abuse?
[16:31] <Laney> collab-qa?
[16:31] <tumbleweed> ah, thanks
[16:32] <Laney> don't know if that kind of script is wanted in there though
[16:33] <jtaylor> dupondje: those are the new multiarch paths, you can get it with dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH
[16:33] <jtaylor> or you use pkg-config
[16:35] <tumbleweed> Laney: well, for the ubuntu stuff, we could use ubuntu-dev
[16:36] <dupondje> jtaylor: whats the best way to follow ?
[16:37] <dupondje> any examples btw ?
[16:37] <Laney> tumbleweed: right, or the dex one I suppose
[16:40] <Laney> tumbleweed: which project is it? could you add me?
[16:41] <jtaylor> dupondje: this should work http://paste.ubuntu.com/637994/
[16:42] <jtaylor> or instead of patching the source add that to configure in rules
[16:42] <jtaylor> probably better
[16:43] <jtaylor> --with-sqlite3-lib=`dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH`
[16:43] <jtaylor> +/usr/lib
[16:43] <dupondje> but whats that debian-pdns/rules vs debian/rules ? :)
[16:44] <jtaylor> maybe upstream has an own debian directory
[16:44] <dupondje> then it gets renamed and isn't used ?
[16:45] <jtaylor> yes and  dpkt 3.0 removes all upstream debian rules on unpacking
[16:45] <tumbleweed> Laney: you appear to already be a member. I just applied
[16:45] <Laney> not as my DD account then
[16:46] <tumbleweed> ah right
[16:46] <dupondje> lets build
[16:47] <tumbleweed> dupondje: if you are looking for more FTBFS packages, here's last week's jam list: http://corelli.tumbleweed.org.za/ubuntu-qa/bugjam/
[16:47] <Laney> applied
[16:49] <DktrKranz> tumbleweed, Laney: I'll process you as soon as my password is somehow restored
[16:52] <dupondje> I need a quadcore
[16:52] <dupondje> damn :°
[16:54] <dupondje> checking for SQLite3 library directory... /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[16:54] <dupondje> allright :D
[17:00] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdns/+bug/756198
[17:00] <dupondje> does it looks fine ?
[17:02] <tumbleweed> LGTM
[17:03] <dupondje> added ubuntu-sponsors :)
[17:03] <dupondje> next one now :D
[17:11] <micahg> Rhonda: right, I meant it pulled in that many packages at build time, it's the most I've seen yet
[17:57] <dupondje> mmmm
[17:57] <dupondje> i'm merging courier, but in debian/rules there is:         if [ `umask` != "0022" ]; then echo "You need to set umask to 022 in order to compile/build courier"; exit 1; fi
[17:58] <dupondje> but how to set the umask ? :s
[17:59] <tumbleweed> with the umask command
[18:01] <dupondje> yea but I don't get where exactly :)
[18:01] <dupondje> http://ubuntu.dupondje.be/merge.debdiff
[18:01] <dupondje> this is the debdiff I have atm
[18:03] <dupondje> It wasn't set in the previous version in ubuntu
[18:03] <dupondje> so quite strange it now fails on that
[18:04] <tumbleweed> dupondje: pbuilder?
[18:04] <dupondje> y
[18:04] <tumbleweed> yeah it doesn't look like you have to make any changes for ubuntu, but you might need to tweak your pbuilder
[18:05] <tumbleweed> dupondje: debian bug 531885
[18:05] <tumbleweed> oh, know apparetly that's cowbuilder only
[18:06] <tumbleweed> anyway, it has a workaround suggestion
[18:06] <dupondje> I see :)
[18:06] <dupondje> lets try it out
[18:19] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: I marked the bugs where you attached the patch in the Debian BTS (and didn't assign it to yourself) as "Triaged". That shows up in summary listings.
[18:19] <jtaylor> k
[18:20] <jtaylor> you can mark 803174 too
[18:21] <tumbleweed> jsut did :)
[18:55] <jtaylor> hey finally one thats seems like a challenge, timbleserver is resistant to the usual as-needed-fixes
[19:03] <jtaylor> one of its rdeps uses -fopenmp wrong
[19:04] <jtaylor> b-deps
[19:05] <tumbleweed> did it affect any other packages too?
[19:06] <jtaylor> probably not its libtimbl, probably no other package uses it
[19:06] <tumbleweed> pity :)
[19:27] <dupondje> stupid umask :) seems the workaround doesn't work for pbuilder-dist
[19:35] <Rhonda> Laney: No, and I think the thread that was started on debian-devel died off with no real solution. I was told that it should be possible to do it on the QA server and I should join the team, but there are still unresponded questions pending.
[19:35] <Rhonda> Laney: And where shall I put my PPU application in? When is the next meeting?
[19:40] <Laney> Rhonda: you need to email devel-permissions@ and add yourself to the agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda
[19:40] <Laney> next meeting is 18/7
[19:43] <Rhonda> Ah, right, that was that then.
[19:43] <Rhonda> 18/7 I'll be in bosnia, so that would fit
[19:45] <Rhonda> … I hope the network will be working at that time of DebCamp already.  ;)
[19:47] <Rhonda> huhm
[19:47] <Rhonda> waiting for login.ubuntu.com …
[19:47] <Laney> heh
[19:48] <Laney> that old problem...
[19:49] <Rhonda> Shall I put me with 3 into it?
[19:49] <Laney> yep
[19:49] <Rhonda> The (E) is confusing me here.
[19:49] <Laney> = email
[19:49] <Laney> that one is stalled since sylvestre hasn't replied to some questions
[19:50] <Rhonda> damn
[19:50] <Rhonda> hmm
[19:50] <Rhonda> there was some edit hint that i noticed when I clicked safe …
[19:50] <Laney> we had a big backlog some time ago and processed a few applications over email instead of IRC
[19:50] <Rhonda> though the time it displayed was a single minute
[19:51] <Laney> might have been my lock
[19:51] <Laney> if so, i was finished anyway
[19:57] <Rhonda> Ah yes, was yours
[19:57] <jtaylor> hmm does libtool not like fopenmp?
[19:57] <jtaylor> it seems to drop that flag for linking
[19:57] <jtaylor> which is wrong
[19:59] <jtaylor> yes it does
[19:59] <jtaylor> what a piece of crap
[20:00] <jtaylor> is there anything this thing makes easier and  not harder?
[20:03] <Ampelbein> jtaylor: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-libtool/2011-03/msg00024.html suggests it's been fixed.
[20:04] <jtaylor> yes but timblserver uses an old version
[20:04] <Ampelbein> yay for ltmain.sh patching
[20:05] <jtaylor> libtimbl I mean
[20:14] <jtaylor> tumbleweed: please triage bug 803205
[20:21] <dupondje> pbuilder broken ? :s
[20:28] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: oh right, you aren't in bug control :/
[20:45] <fabrice_sp> dupondje, it seems more to be some missing lib or .o in the link command
[20:48] <dupondje> fabrice_sp: to what question you are replying now ? :)
[20:49] <fabrice_sp> dupondje, sorry: I thought you were saying that builds was broken to 803205. Should I read better! sorry
[20:49] <dupondje> np :D
[20:49] <dupondje> pbuilder is broken :(
[20:49] <fabrice_sp> I uses sbuild ;-)
[20:49] <dupondje> + mount -t proc /proc /var/cache/pbuilder/build//14569/proc
[20:49] <dupondje> mount: /proc already mounted or /var/cache/pbuilder/build//14569/proc busy
[20:49] <dupondje> mount: according to mtab, /proc is mounted on /proc
[20:51] <fabrice_sp> dumb question, but did you try to reboot?
[20:51] <fabrice_sp> I sometimes messup my schroots and end up with this kind of errors
[20:52] <dupondje> yep I did :s
[20:53] <dupondje> /var/cache/pbuilder/build//14569/proc is really mounted.
[20:53] <dupondje> seems like mount reply changed ?
[20:53] <fabrice_sp> so it's trying to mount it twice?
[20:53] <fabrice_sp> are you using natty as your main system?
[20:55] <dupondje> it looks like its mounting twice indeed
[20:55] <dupondje> oneiric
[20:57] <fabrice_sp> I'm installing pbuilder in an oneiric schroot, to see if it happens the same
[20:58] <dupondje> only happens on create
[21:01] <fabrice_sp> pbuilder create worked here
[21:01] <dupondje> weird :s
[21:02] <fabrice_sp> this is in a schroot, so mounts may acts differently
[21:03] <dupondje> wanted to create a new pbuilder, and now its completely broken :(
[21:06] <dupondje> ok
[21:06] <dupondje> seems like its a debootstrap bug
[21:08] <fabrice_sp> bug 595908?
[21:10] <dupondje> Well I did: $ sudo debootstrap --include=apt --variant=buildd --keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg oneiric . http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[21:10] <dupondje> this mounted proc into the chroot debootstrap
[21:10] <dupondje> and when its done, its not unmounted
[21:10] <dupondje> so its still mounted when pbuilder tries to mount
[21:11] <fabrice_sp> if hte directory is different, this shouldn't be an issue, as proc is mounted several times (in each chrrot )
[21:11] <fabrice_sp> do you have any pbuilderrc files?
[21:11] <fabrice_sp> (in etc or $HOME)
[21:15] <dupondje> I had, removing it now, and trying again
[21:16] <fabrice_sp> ok. fyi, I updated my chroot and it worked again
[21:19] <dupondje> nope, remove pbuilderrc
[21:19] <dupondje> and still fails :s
[21:19] <dupondje> somehow
[21:20] <dupondje> jean-louis@laptop-jl:~$ sudo mount -t proc /proc /home/jean-louis/test/proc/
[21:20] <dupondje> mount: /proc already mounted or /home/jean-louis/test/proc/ busy
[21:20] <dupondje> mount: according to mtab, /proc is mounted on /proc
[21:20] <dupondje> but its not listed in df -a
[21:24] <fabrice_sp> this works here
[21:26] <dupondje> weird :s
[21:26] <fabrice_sp> yeah
[21:26] <dupondje> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631087
[21:26] <dupondje> some debian users have same
[21:26] <dupondje> but no solution :s
[21:28] <dupondje> jean-louis@laptop-jl:~/test$ sudo umount /home/jean-louis/test/proc/
[21:28] <dupondje> umount: /proc: device is busy.
[21:28] <dupondje> this is weird
[21:29] <dupondje> lsof |grep test shows nothing :s
[21:33] <fabrice_sp> when mounted by mount -t proc /proc, it shows in /etc/mtab, so it's weird in your case. Sorry I can't help
[21:43] <Elbrus> can somebody tell me how to get a request for rebuild the proper tagging in launchpad (bug 805677)
[21:43] <Elbrus> or should I ask this in #ubuntu-bugs?
[21:44] <micahg> Elbrus: subscribe ubuntu-sponsors
[21:46] <Elbrus> will do
[21:47] <Elbrus> done
[21:48]  * Elbrus going to sleep now ... productive day it has been
[21:57] <dupondje> debootstrapper is really doing something weird
[22:08] <dupondje> ok
[22:08] <dupondje> its not debootstrapper :(