[08:39] <fta2> micahg, hi, did you even try to build the last chromium on arm/natty?
[12:01] <lag> chrisccoulson: I hear it's your fault ;)
[12:01] <asac> lag: welcome chrisccoulson our mozilla maintainer .... chrisccoulson, meet lag the linaro team lead for stericsson
[12:01] <lag> :D
[12:02]  * lag looks up chrisccoulson's TZ
[12:03] <lag> chrisccoulson: Ah, mine! :D
[12:03] <lag> chrisccoulson: I see "Could not find GnuPG" when I use Thunderbird - any ideas?
[12:08] <chrisccoulson> lag, i take it you have enigmail installed?
[12:09] <lag> I do
[12:09] <lag> But when I try to send an email I receive "Enigmime Service not available", "Failed to initialize Enigmail."
[12:10] <chrisccoulson> lag - where did you install enigmail from?
[12:10] <lag> sudo apt-get install enigmail
[12:11] <lag> When I try to setup using the Wizard I receive this:
[12:11] <chrisccoulson> lag, did you override the gpg path in OpenPGP -> Preferences?
[12:11] <lag> The Wizard could not find the GnuPG executable, please locate it manually in the following dialog. If you did not install GnuPG yet, we recommend you visit http://www.gnupg.org.
[12:11] <lag> I have tried with with and without the override
[12:12] <chrisccoulson> and you definitely have a /usr/bin/gpg?
[12:12] <lag> $ which gpg && gpg --version
[12:12] <lag> /usr/bin/gpg
[12:12] <lag> gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.11
[12:16] <chrisccoulson> lag, hmm, strange. are there any errors in the error console?
[12:35] <lag> chrisccoulson: No, nothing in the Error Console
[12:54] <asac> lag: just tried with a fresh tbird setup
[12:54] <asac> works
[12:54] <asac> sent you a mail
[12:54] <asac> i didnt have to set any binary location etc.
[12:55] <asac> e.g. just defaults worked
[12:57] <lag> Are you using 64bit?
[12:58] <lag> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110516 Thunderbird/3.1.10
[12:58] <asac> hmm. nope ;)
[12:58] <asac> lag: oh
[12:58] <asac> lag: so ... you have the package installed, right?
[12:59] <lag> Which one?
[12:59] <asac> lag: maybe you had the .xpi manually installed at some point? and you are still not using the package ... -> go to tools -> addons
[12:59] <lag> Enigmail?
[12:59] <asac> lag: enigmail package (like in .deb)
[12:59] <asac> yes
[12:59] <asac> lag: if "uninstall" button is available for enigmail it means you use the engimail from your profile and not the system one ... hit that button, restart and then it will work maybe
[12:59] <lag> asac: I did this too
[13:00] <asac> lag: so uninstall was available?
[13:00] <lag> asac: Tools -> Addons (Enigmail 1.1.2_
[13:00] <lag> s/_/)
[13:00] <lag> Yes, you want me to uninstall?
[13:00] <lag> Uninstall/reinstall - how very Microsoftesque
[13:00] <asac> lag: if uninstall button is available it means it doesnt use the 64-bit package on your system. so yes, hit the button
[13:01] <asac> lag: no ... just uninstall and the system package should become visible
[13:01] <asac> its just that you had enigmail at some point installed in your profile which thunderbird still tries to use now after moving to 64-bit
[13:01] <asac> uninstall -> restart -> check that you cannot hit "uninstall" anymore (greyed out)
[13:01] <asac> and then it works
[13:02] <lag> It does indeed
[13:02] <lag> :)
[13:02] <lag> Good work
[13:02] <asac> ha ... /me the master of mozilla (still)
[13:02] <asac> awesome
[13:02] <lag> :)
[13:02] <lag> Sucky Mozilla :)
[13:02] <lag> What mailer do you use?
[13:05] <lag> asac: -^
[13:08] <asac> lag: gmail web ;) ... but now that i set linaro.org up i might try tbird again ... looks pretty nice nowadays
[13:09] <asac> unfortunately i dont see a keyboard shortcut for "Archive whole thread"
[13:09] <lag> I don't use such a shortcut
[13:09] <lag> I like it as a mailer
[13:09] <lag> I just use point and click
[13:09] <lag> And up & down arrow keys :)
[13:09] <asac> i used it for ages, but then got fed up with the UI and memory consumption
[13:09]  * lag laughs in the face of Mutt users ;)
[13:10] <asac> i used mutt then, but since then gave up and only used gmail web UI for linaro mail
[13:10] <asac> i like the archive button because that moves stuff to the "All Mail" label
[13:10] <asac> and allows you to keep inbox at zero
[13:11] <lag> My inbox is always zero
[13:11] <lag> I use filters, then everything is where it's expected to be
[13:11] <asac> sure, but then those folders are not zero :)
[13:11] <asac> i process stuff and zero it
[13:11] <lag> This is true
[13:11] <lag> Ah, okay
[13:11] <asac> i tried to use "read" for hidning
[13:11] <lag> I like to ignore whole chunks of emails
[13:12] <asac> but then i often dont have the answer to finishing the mail completely
[13:12] <asac> and marking unread is also painful all the time
[13:12] <asac> sure
[13:12] <asac> i move stuff i dont read to folders
[13:12] <asac> but then i unsubcribe ;)
[13:12] <lag> I read what looks interesting then mark the entire folder as read
[13:12] <asac> if i find myself not looking there for a while
[13:12] <asac> yeah
[13:12] <asac> archive is better though
[13:12] <asac> if you use google
[13:13] <asac> archiving all folder is easy though ;)
[13:13] <asac> ctrl+a + a
[13:13] <lag> I guess you never miss what you've never used :)
[13:14] <asac> i think archive is only useful if you let all mail show up on inbox and then you have a long list to process ... then for archive/history you still have the read mails in the labels/folders ;)
[13:14] <asac> right
[13:14] <asac> i just saw the big button in gmail interface and thought ... lets try this out - cant be completely stupid if they give away so much precious top level UI space
[13:24] <lag> Was that the achieve button?
[13:25] <asac> archive ;)
[13:25] <asac> hehe
[13:32] <asac> cyphermox: hey
[13:32] <asac> cyphermox: i heard that you had a snowball?
[13:32] <cyphermox> asac: yes, g
[13:33] <cyphermox> got it last week
[13:33] <asac> cyphermox: linaro has ubuntu images + hardware pack for it if you want to try ;)
[13:33] <cyphermox> yup
[13:33] <asac> cyphermox: lag is the guy who knows all ;)
[13:33] <cyphermox> found them, pushed one, need to re-do it, I think I used the non-desktop one
[13:33] <lag> asac: Yes, of course, not achieve ;)
[13:33] <asac> lol
[13:33]  * lag leaves ;)
[13:33] <asac> i would like a button called "achieve" ;)
[13:34] <lag> That would be cool!
[13:34] <asac> lag: here you have someone from community for snowball
[13:34] <asac> isnt that great ;)
[13:34] <lag> Mouse-"over achieve"
[13:34] <asac> haha
[13:34] <lag> Well awesome ;)
[13:34] <asac> cyphermox: password for linaro account is not set
[13:34] <asac> cyphermox: afaik
[13:34] <lag> cyphermox: Are you on #igloo?
[13:34] <asac> cyphermox: you should have autologin
[13:35] <asac> cyphermox: both on UI and on root account
[13:35] <asac> but better check with tgall_foo (or Dr_Who depending what day it is in #linaro)
[13:35] <cyphermox> lag, am now??
[13:36] <cyphermox> asac, it was SSH. I only checked real fast, didn't really have time to play with it
[13:36] <asac> cyphermox: he wonders in general
[13:37] <lag> cyphermox: It's on irc.oftc.net, not here
[13:38] <cyphermox> ahah!
[14:43] <chrisccoulson> hi m_conley, how are you?
[14:43] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: hi!  Things are pretty good, and you?
[14:43] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, yeah, not too bad thanks
[14:44] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, did you see my comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/messagingmenu-extension/always-show-shortcuts/+merge/66566 ?
[14:44] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: Mmhmm - I'm trying to test your patch with an updated libdbusmenu, but now the messaging menu (and the shutdown menu) is missing.  :/
[14:44] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: during the upgrade, apt seemed to grab a bunch of other stuff too.
[14:44] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, on oneiric?
[14:44] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: mmhmm
[14:45] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, sounds like fallout from the gtk2 -> gtk3 transition last week ;)
[14:45] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: gah - any ideas?
[14:46] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, do you still have indicator-messages and indicator-session installed?
[14:47] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: oh!  seems like they're missing now.  How'd that happen?
[14:47]  * m_conley installs...
[14:48] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, that often happens as a side effect of certain transitions
[14:48] <chrisccoulson> if you upgraded at an unfortunate time ;)
[14:48] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: oh alpha software.  :)
[14:49] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: hrm.  installed, restarted session...still no indicators.
[14:50] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: give me a sec, trying something...
[14:52] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: bah, still no dice.  :/
[14:52] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, any errors from unity-panel-service in ~/.xsession-errors?
[14:54] <m_conley> chrisccoulson:
[14:54] <m_conley> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1264106
[14:54] <chrisccoulson> oh, of course, you're running the 2d session ;)
[14:54] <chrisccoulson> i'm not too sure about that
[14:55] <m_conley> chrisccoulson:  ah - that's right, I'll see if I can get the standard session type running...
[14:57] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, oh, is it just the message indicator and session indicator which are missing?
[14:57] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: yep, looks like it.  And the networking indicator has a broken icon.
[14:57] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, do you have indicator-session-gtk2 and indicator-messages-gtk2 installed?
[14:58] <chrisccoulson> it seems that installing those should fix it ;)
[15:00] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: cool, thanks. :)
[15:03] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: phew, ok, back in business
[15:07] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, heh, i keep putting reviews your way ;)
[15:07] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: I know!  Sorry about the backlog.  Tomorrow's the merge date for Tb7.0, and I'm pushing to get my de-RDF and Address Book extension patches in
[15:08] <chrisccoulson> sure, no worries :)
[15:10] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: hm...so now MessagingMenu appears in the indicator, but doesn't have the TB icon (http://i.imgur.com/Rl5zX.png), and doesn't indicate on new messages
[15:11] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, that's weird :/
[15:13] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: gah.  When does alpha 2 come out?
[15:14] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, i think it is thursday
[15:14] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[15:14] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: thanks! :)
[15:14] <chrisccoulson> brb, going to try 2d session
[15:15] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: ah, I see the problem
[15:15] <chrisccoulson> oh?
[15:15] <m_conley> line 226 of MessagingMenu.jsm:  "aListener[method](aDir, null);" - should be aMethod
[15:15] <m_conley> give me a sec...
[15:16] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, oh, thanks ;)
[15:24] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: ah, seems to be working nicely now. :)
[15:24] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, excellent, thanks
[15:42] <bhearsum> is there a way to file a bug in launchpad without going through the 'ubuntu-bug' hooplah?
[17:10] <micahg> fta2: not yet
[17:12] <fta> micahg, it seems the ftbfs on oneiric was caused by PIE, which is disabled on natty
[17:13] <fta> i've disabled it on oneiric too, but if you could try it before the next upload, that would be nice
[17:13] <micahg> fta: ok, will try to get armel going on earlier releases later this week
[17:13] <micahg> fta: ok, will try to get armel going on earlier releases later this week
[17:20] <fta> ok, thanks
[18:18]  * chrisccoulson will stop creating merge proposals for m_conley soon ;)
[18:18] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: no, they're great - I'll get to them soon. :)
[19:43] <micahg> chrisccoulson: are you uploading the fix for firefox being pulled in on kubuntu or shouldI?
[19:43] <micahg> chrisccoulson: are you uploading the fix for firefox being pulled in on kubuntu or shouldI?
[19:44] <micahg> sorry for the double ping, xchat isn't rending properly
[19:44] <micahg> *rendering
[21:13] <chrisccoulson> oh, mozilla-aurora is quiet
[21:14] <chrisccoulson> no build again
[21:15] <micahg> chrisccoulson: did you see my ping before?
[21:16] <chrisccoulson>  micahg - i replied didn't i?
[21:16] <micahg> xchat isn't beaving
[21:16] <micahg> *behaving
[21:17] <micahg> I don't see a response on irclogs.u.c