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Araya213Hello, I've had an ongoing problem that I've just never gotten around do fixing.  I'm on the latest mythbuntu  with fixes and have 2 a master and slave backend.  Each one is running a pvr-150 and an HVR-1600.  I'm having signal quality issues with all tuners.  Some channels just come in very poorly while others look fine.  Is there a way to fine-tune the frequency my tuners are using?03:21
Araya213It might also help to note that if I plug the cable directly into the TV everything looks fine.03:23
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Araya213Oh yes, one more thing.  A while back I tried using a powered cable amplifier, it did not help at all.03:26
Shadow__XAraya213: does analog and digital both look bad03:46
Araya213No, only analog, digital is pretty as pie03:47
Araya213One thing though, The tuner cards are right next to each other on the motherboard, could that cause interference?03:49
Shadow__Xhmm at that point i would point towards it being an analog issue03:49
Shadow__Xwhen i tried to record analog the quality was bad so i just ditched it03:49
Araya213Not an option in this case03:50
Araya213Do you know if it's possible to manually set the frequencies for certain channels?03:50
Shadow__Xpossible? just not sure where to do that03:50
Araya213I've looked all over the back and frontend settings, unless it's well hidden it's not there.03:51
Shadow__Xit would be in the backend settings03:51
Shadow__Xbut again i am not sure i have never done that03:52
Araya213You can change the frequency table, and I've tried all of the US ones, but nothing for individual channels03:52
Araya213Hello, I've had an ongoing problem that I've just never gotten around do fixing.  I'm on the latest mythbuntu  with fixes and have 2 a master and slave backend.  Each one is running a pvr-150 and an HVR-1600.  I'm having signal quality issues with all analog tuners.  Some channels just come in very poorly while others look fine.  If I plug the cable directly to the TV everything looks04:42
Araya213great.  A while back I tried using a powered splitter and it didn't help at all Is there a way to fine-tune the frequency my tuners are using?04:42
Shadow__XAraya213: are you sure its using analog on the tv when it looks great?04:43
Araya213Yes04:44
Shadow__Xdo you have a picture of how bad it looks?04:44
Shadow__Xthe reason why i ask is i am thinking it looks great on the tv because its an old tube and you are watching the recording on a lcd monitor and because of this it looks bad04:45
Shadow__Xbut thats just me guessing04:45
Araya213I have several TVs, one of them is an old DLP, but the quality issues are very obviously signal based, wavy lines and such, I'm trying to get a pic now04:47
Shadow__Xhave you looked around the mail logs?04:47
Araya213I don't know what that is.  Care to get me up to speed?  I've done ton of googling though.04:48
Shadow__Xthis is an archive of the mailing list04:48
Shadow__Xhttp://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/04:48
Zinn[www.gossamer-threads.com] MythTV | Users04:49
Araya213I'll check it out, how do I screenshot in mythbuntu?04:49
Shadow__Xprint screen?04:49
Shadow__Xi am not really sure04:51
Araya213I'll try it, what's a good image editor to use for ubuntu?  I don't really know much about the desktop aspect of ubuntu, don't really use it for that.04:51
Shadow__Xhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xfce#Using_print-screen_key04:52
Zinn[wiki.archlinux.org] Xfce - ArchWiki04:52
Shadow__Xmythbuntu uses xfce as the window manager04:52
Araya213it's hard to get a decent screenshot of live video05:00
Araya213working on it htough05:00
Shadow__Xyou could pause it05:02
Araya213LOL Duh05:02
Araya213Here's a screenshot of what my problem looks like.  It only does this on certain tuners on certain channels, but all of the tuners do have this issue.  http://imgur.com/Xkl9L05:05
Zinn[imgur.com] imgur: the simple image sharer05:05
Araya213indeed05:06
Shadow__Xoh wow hmm05:06
Araya213Pretty ugly huh?05:06
Shadow__Xyeah i think that has something to do with attenuation05:06
Araya213but if I switch over to another tuner, it looks fine, but then that tuner has other channels that look bad05:06
Shadow__Xhmm you said they are right next to eact other right?m05:07
Shadow__Xtry removing one tuner and seeing if all the chanels are ok05:07
Araya213I have tried that, no dice05:07
Araya213Also, this happens on both backends05:07
Shadow__Xhave you tried putting a regular splitter infront of the tuner?05:08
Araya213Yes, I'm using a regular splitter, but the problem happens wether I'm using a splitter or not05:09
Araya213I really think it's some kind of nonstandard frequency usage on the part of my cable provider.05:10
Shadow__Xperhaps there is too much signal strength? i am really not sure, i can give you suggestions but i am unsure if it will fix your problem05:10
Shadow__Xi know analog is a lot trickier than digital05:10
Araya213I'll take all the hlep I can get05:10
Araya213help too05:10
Shadow__Xwhy do you think its a nonstandard frequency? your tv's are able to pick it up05:10
Araya213yeah, you're right.05:11
Araya213that kind of rules that out05:11
Araya213Unless my TV is not as sensitive to it as my tuners05:12
Araya213don't know if that's even a possibility though05:12
Shadow__Xnot sure. I know when i was using analog i was having a bunch of problems05:13
Shadow__Xoh also did run the cable in your house?05:14
Araya213I havne't messed with the cable at all, it was here when I moved in05:15
Shadow__Xi am really not sure but you can go to the mythtv-users channel and ask them they would know better than i05:15
Araya213right on, i'm headed that way05:15
kb1gtt1Well, I got irw working, it now receives signals. Is there anyone that can help with irsend around here? Syslog notes uirt2_raw: UIRT tried to send 237 bits, max is 128 I'm drawing a blank about how to fix it05:59
rileypIs suspend with diskless possible? I'm using lucid mythbuntu and it does resume to the gui and firefox works if I left it running prior and dmesg works as well but for example nano or mythfrontend or any other application for that matter will not  I get an error in dmesg regarding squashfs and ndb block device being unable to connect to14:01
rileypwhere does one define whther to suspend to disk or ram14:25
kb1gttI just added a section to this wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lirc_USB-UIRT#Specific to Mythbuntu 11.04 I got the usbuirt working, but the config scripts from mybuntu control centre will break it and didn't work out of the box.15:28
Zinn[help.ubuntu.com] Lirc_USB-UIRT - Community Ubuntu Documentation15:28
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