[03:21] <Araya213> Hello, I've had an ongoing problem that I've just never gotten around do fixing.  I'm on the latest mythbuntu  with fixes and have 2 a master and slave backend.  Each one is running a pvr-150 and an HVR-1600.  I'm having signal quality issues with all tuners.  Some channels just come in very poorly while others look fine.  Is there a way to fine-tune the frequency my tuners are using?
[03:23] <Araya213> It might also help to note that if I plug the cable directly into the TV everything looks fine.
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[03:26] <Araya213> Oh yes, one more thing.  A while back I tried using a powered cable amplifier, it did not help at all.
[03:46] <Shadow__X> Araya213: does analog and digital both look bad
[03:47] <Araya213> No, only analog, digital is pretty as pie
[03:49] <Araya213> One thing though, The tuner cards are right next to each other on the motherboard, could that cause interference?
[03:49] <Shadow__X> hmm at that point i would point towards it being an analog issue
[03:49] <Shadow__X> when i tried to record analog the quality was bad so i just ditched it
[03:50] <Araya213> Not an option in this case
[03:50] <Araya213> Do you know if it's possible to manually set the frequencies for certain channels?
[03:50] <Shadow__X> possible? just not sure where to do that
[03:51] <Araya213> I've looked all over the back and frontend settings, unless it's well hidden it's not there.
[03:51] <Shadow__X> it would be in the backend settings
[03:52] <Shadow__X> but again i am not sure i have never done that
[03:52] <Araya213> You can change the frequency table, and I've tried all of the US ones, but nothing for individual channels
[04:42] <Araya213> Hello, I've had an ongoing problem that I've just never gotten around do fixing.  I'm on the latest mythbuntu  with fixes and have 2 a master and slave backend.  Each one is running a pvr-150 and an HVR-1600.  I'm having signal quality issues with all analog tuners.  Some channels just come in very poorly while others look fine.  If I plug the cable directly to the TV everything looks
[04:42] <Araya213> great.  A while back I tried using a powered splitter and it didn't help at all Is there a way to fine-tune the frequency my tuners are using?
[04:43] <Shadow__X> Araya213: are you sure its using analog on the tv when it looks great?
[04:44] <Araya213> Yes
[04:44] <Shadow__X> do you have a picture of how bad it looks?
[04:45] <Shadow__X> the reason why i ask is i am thinking it looks great on the tv because its an old tube and you are watching the recording on a lcd monitor and because of this it looks bad
[04:45] <Shadow__X> but thats just me guessing
[04:47] <Araya213> I have several TVs, one of them is an old DLP, but the quality issues are very obviously signal based, wavy lines and such, I'm trying to get a pic now
[04:47] <Shadow__X> have you looked around the mail logs?
[04:48] <Araya213> I don't know what that is.  Care to get me up to speed?  I've done ton of googling though.
[04:48] <Shadow__X> this is an archive of the mailing list
[04:48] <Shadow__X> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/
[04:49] <Zinn> [www.gossamer-threads.com] MythTV | Users
[04:49] <Araya213> I'll check it out, how do I screenshot in mythbuntu?
[04:49] <Shadow__X> print screen?
[04:51] <Shadow__X> i am not really sure
[04:51] <Araya213> I'll try it, what's a good image editor to use for ubuntu?  I don't really know much about the desktop aspect of ubuntu, don't really use it for that.
[04:52] <Shadow__X> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xfce#Using_print-screen_key
[04:52] <Zinn> [wiki.archlinux.org] Xfce - ArchWiki
[04:52] <Shadow__X> mythbuntu uses xfce as the window manager
[05:00] <Araya213> it's hard to get a decent screenshot of live video
[05:00] <Araya213> working on it htough
[05:02] <Shadow__X> you could pause it
[05:02] <Araya213> LOL Duh
[05:05] <Araya213> Here's a screenshot of what my problem looks like.  It only does this on certain tuners on certain channels, but all of the tuners do have this issue.  http://imgur.com/Xkl9L
[05:05] <Zinn> [imgur.com] imgur: the simple image sharer
[05:06] <Araya213> indeed
[05:06] <Shadow__X> oh wow hmm
[05:06] <Araya213> Pretty ugly huh?
[05:06] <Shadow__X> yeah i think that has something to do with attenuation
[05:06] <Araya213> but if I switch over to another tuner, it looks fine, but then that tuner has other channels that look bad
[05:07] <Shadow__X> hmm you said they are right next to eact other right?m
[05:07] <Shadow__X> try removing one tuner and seeing if all the chanels are ok
[05:07] <Araya213> I have tried that, no dice
[05:07] <Araya213> Also, this happens on both backends
[05:08] <Shadow__X> have you tried putting a regular splitter infront of the tuner?
[05:09] <Araya213> Yes, I'm using a regular splitter, but the problem happens wether I'm using a splitter or not
[05:10] <Araya213> I really think it's some kind of nonstandard frequency usage on the part of my cable provider.
[05:10] <Shadow__X> perhaps there is too much signal strength? i am really not sure, i can give you suggestions but i am unsure if it will fix your problem
[05:10] <Shadow__X> i know analog is a lot trickier than digital
[05:10] <Araya213> I'll take all the hlep I can get
[05:10] <Araya213> help too
[05:10] <Shadow__X> why do you think its a nonstandard frequency? your tv's are able to pick it up
[05:11] <Araya213> yeah, you're right.
[05:11] <Araya213> that kind of rules that out
[05:12] <Araya213> Unless my TV is not as sensitive to it as my tuners
[05:12] <Araya213> don't know if that's even a possibility though
[05:13] <Shadow__X> not sure. I know when i was using analog i was having a bunch of problems
[05:14] <Shadow__X> oh also did run the cable in your house?
[05:15] <Araya213> I havne't messed with the cable at all, it was here when I moved in
[05:15] <Shadow__X> i am really not sure but you can go to the mythtv-users channel and ask them they would know better than i
[05:15] <Araya213> right on, i'm headed that way
[05:59] <kb1gtt1> Well, I got irw working, it now receives signals. Is there anyone that can help with irsend around here? Syslog notes uirt2_raw: UIRT tried to send 237 bits, max is 128 I'm drawing a blank about how to fix it
[14:01] <rileyp> Is suspend with diskless possible? I'm using lucid mythbuntu and it does resume to the gui and firefox works if I left it running prior and dmesg works as well but for example nano or mythfrontend or any other application for that matter will not  I get an error in dmesg regarding squashfs and ndb block device being unable to connect to
[14:25] <rileyp> where does one define whther to suspend to disk or ram
[15:28] <kb1gtt> I just added a section to this wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lirc_USB-UIRT#Specific to Mythbuntu 11.04 I got the usbuirt working, but the config scripts from mybuntu control centre will break it and didn't work out of the box.
[15:28] <Zinn> [help.ubuntu.com] Lirc_USB-UIRT - Community Ubuntu Documentation