[00:13] Anyone know any currently-available-in-NZ working USB WiFi adapters? [00:38] hads: the ones sold by DSE seemed to work ok, although i don't know about current availability [00:39] * ajmitch had awful trouble with one bought from DSE with a ralink chipset, it was a linksys-branded adpater [00:40] mwhudson: Thanks, I've got a customer asking for one so looking for resaleable ones. No experience with them myself which always makes it more interesting. [00:40] hads: ah, fair enough [00:40] I remember a ralink one years ago that did work and them the driver was removed from the kernel [00:40] ajmitch: funnily enough the DSE branded one worked fine [00:40] you'll also find that similar model names can end up with different chipsets [00:41] although yes, that aspect does lead to fun [00:41] it gets very frustrating trying to track down :) [00:42] Yeah, same thing with routers, dvb cards etc. very annoying. [00:43] i paid $20 or something more for my laptop to get a known intel wifi chip rather than "lenovo wifi" [00:44] I have intel wifi as well, but it wasn't always the most reliable [00:44] most of that was due to overheating though [00:44] I've had two thinkpads with Intel, both disconnect occasionally and need a power down/up to fix it. [00:45] I got used to running rmmod & modprobe to reload the driver [00:46] just goes to show noone gets it right all of the time i guess [00:46] "03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 (rev 34)" seems to work fine though [00:46] Yeah, sometimes that works ajmitch, sometimes not. [00:46] way better than the atheros thingy in my macbook anywya [00:47] Mines a 5300 [00:47] 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection [00:48] mine's probably slightly older [01:43] anyone know who is behind http://matapuna.thinktank.co.nz/ ? [01:54] Dave Moskovitz ? [02:06] indeed, there's a "contact Dave" in the last paragraph where Dave is a link [02:07] actually, it's all a link [02:07] just in nearly the same colour [02:47] the project has a source forge page which shows a single commit ~ 7 years ago [02:49] oh [02:53] that's a bit dated [05:57] Damn. Someone just emailed to say that our website doesn't work in IE9. [05:58] what a shame [06:03] I think I'm going to stop thinking about IE6. [06:04] the sooner it dies, the better [06:05] even MS agree there: http://www.ie6countdown.com/ [06:06] MS just disagree on which browser you should switch to :) [06:06] Just what I was thinking. [06:06] that site would read better if they did s/6//g on it [06:09] Interesting. Over the past 6 months, FF counts 39% of visits vs. IE 26% though revenue from IE beats FF by 1.5 times. [06:09] those FF cheapskates [06:09] must be those linux zealots, they never pay for anything [06:10] haha [06:10] is FF on windows different to FF on linux? [06:10] It can be, just looking at that. [06:13] Windows revenue beats Linux by around 6.5x [06:14] Linux and Mac are quite close. [06:15] per page view? [06:16] Total revenue [06:16] Windows makes up 72% of all visits with FF+IE+Chrome [06:16] Sorry, plus 1.5% for Opera [06:17] so probably not so different per visit [06:18] * ojwb wonders where network manager has gone [06:24] hmm, uninstalled somehow [06:27] congrats? [06:28] although nm has only really annoyed me once in the last year or so [06:31] mwhudson: well, I can't say I like it [06:31] but if I'm going to uninstall it, I'd like something else to do its job [06:31] heh [06:31] now it just seems to think eth0 isn't managed [06:32] hmm, think I'll have to try turning it off and on again [06:32] DO you have anything in /etc/network/interfaces [06:32] From memory if an if is mentioned there then NM won't do stuff. [06:35] I wonder if this passport photo will pass the inspection. I'll send it anyway and see what happens. [06:35] Right, off. [06:36] allow-hotplug eth0 [06:36] iface eth0 inet dhcp [06:36] not sure if that's normally there [06:36] * ojwb tries removing it [06:40] hads: cool, that fixed it - thanks [10:02] ojwb: Neat. [20:20] morning [20:20] wow, I was first for a change! [20:25] morning [20:25] yeah, I'm not even at work yet [20:48] * chilts is on the train [21:00] morning [21:49] Morning [22:09] mōrena everyone. [23:29] morning [23:49] morena