[01:07] <ubuntuuk-planet> [iain woz ere] Ubuntu upload history now available in UDD - http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/blog/posts/2011/07/udd-ubuntu-upload-history/
[02:13] <daftykins> Azelphur: odd, i was just reading about flooding ;)
[02:13] <Azelphur> lol
[03:33] <uhohuhoh> Hello, anyone around?
[03:33] <ball> Hello, I like pie.
[03:36] <ball> Anyone here familiar with grub rescue mode?
[03:37] <ball> s/familiar/awake and familiar/
[03:44] <uhohuhoh> haha
[03:44] <uhohuhoh> I guess no one is awake...
[03:44] <daftykins> eyes... closing :(
[03:44]  * ball pokes daftykins with a slightly sharpened stick
[03:48] <daftykins> crikey it's ball! how goes old chap?
[03:49] <ball> daftykins: Not too bad thanks.  I'm tired and a bit "antsy" as they say over here.
[03:49] <ball> ...trying to find out more about whether anything Linux benefits from OpenCL
[03:49] <ball> ...not getting many clear-cut answers.
[03:50] <ball> ...though someone told me Firefox didn't benefit.
[03:50] <daftykins> hrmm
[03:50] <daftykins> Firefox seems to be somewhat subpar on Linux in general i detect :D
[03:50] <daftykins> i'm afraid that one's beyond me though
[03:51] <daftykins> the most i do is the odd bit of GPU folding @ home
[03:51] <ball> daftykins: Does the software you use work through a library like OpenCL, or does it hit the GPU directly?
[03:53] <daftykins> mmm, only ever run on Windows and hits nvidia's CUDA drivers
[03:53] <daftykins> so that's close to direct i expect
[03:55] <ball> I believe I read that there were CUDA drivers for Linux.
[03:56] <ball> ...but yes, that would bypass OpenCL.
[03:58] <daftykins> yeah, though folding@home won't make a Linux native client it seems
[03:58] <daftykins> at least last i checked
[04:00] <ball> daftykins: Ah okay.  I don't follow that so I wasn't aware.  I'm trying to remember what Seti@home moved to... boinc?
[04:02] <daftykins> oh it carries on? i read it just died
[04:05] <ball> daftykins: I don't know, I just know they moved to boinc at some point in the past.
[04:05] <daftykins> i always felt that a completely unjustified use of resources personally
[04:05] <daftykins> oh that's right
[04:06] <daftykins> i think it's Paul Allen the co-MS founder that was funding that radio antenna array wherever
[04:06] <daftykins> and they have no more funding anymore so that closed down
[04:06] <ball> daftykins: SETI != Seti@home
[04:07] <daftykins> doesn't the distributed computing project use data from said array though?
[04:11] <ball> I think so, but they are logically, structurally and financially separate animals.
[05:48] <pwb> #opensuse
[07:28] <AlanBell> morning all
[07:36] <ball> Mornin'
[07:39] <TheOpenSourcerer> Morning earthlings.
[07:40] <ball> I think a cunning plan just came to mind.
[07:43] <ball> I've been searching for parts to build my sister-in-law a computer but someone just *gave* me a Core 2 Duo board!
[07:43] <ball> ...so I just need to stick that in a box for her, install Xubuntu (at least, possibly dual-boot with Windows 7) and she's good to go.
[08:55] <tugrik> morning - any Acer Aspire Revo users here?  Or have you all moved on? ;)
[08:57] <gord> i still have two
[08:58] <tugrik> are they running?  My hddtemp seems rather high at 51 degrees....
[09:00] <gord> they are all fine
[09:00] <gord> i don't monitor the temps but they are tiny boxes with powerful gpus, they are gonna get a bit warm
[09:01] <tugrik> yeah, I think 51 degrees isn't that bad, iirc hdds are expected to run 25-55, but still a little high as everything else I have is between 30 and 40
[09:02] <tugrik> plus from memory, and due to the lack of anything in /proc/acpi/fan I'm presuming they don't have any fans....
[09:03] <hoover> mornin all
[09:06] <gord> they do have fans
[09:07] <ubuntuuk-planet> [iain woz ere] Are you MOTUvated? - http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/blog/posts/2011/05/are-you-motuvated/
[09:16] <diplo> Morning all
[09:17] <BigRedS> g'morning!
[09:17] <tugrik> ah, cheers gord, nothing detected by pwmconfig... that might be the problem....
[09:18] <hoover> mornin diplo, BigRedS
[09:21] <Ng> popey: Y U NO TU?
[09:32] <gord> the co-op bank's bank robots keep changing the voice mid way through a line, its like talking to someone with multiple personalities
[09:32] <gord> also, steam is not a video game arcade in ireland.
[10:48] <danfish> morning - a tad quiet here today
[10:52] <kirrus> aye. Everyone working?
[10:53] <hoover> yep
[10:53] <hoover> more or less
[10:54] <hoover> also, checking minecraft 1.7 ;-)
[10:54] <BigRedS> I'm trying to not
[10:54] <BigRedS> but people keep giving me things to do :(
[10:54] <hoover> shame BigRedS
[10:54] <BigRedS> yeah, though they are quite entitled to do that
[10:55] <hoover> damn addiction to food and drink...
[10:55] <kirrus> Muhahahaha.... ;)
[11:02] <davmor2> morning all everyone had a good week?
[11:02]  * davmor2 prods czajkowski 7 times to make up for the lack of prodding
[11:05] <JGJones> There's probably a mini panic in USA at the moment as it seems that Fox News's twitter was hacked and is reporting on Obama's death(!)
[11:11] <dogmatic69> o/
[11:13] <dwatkins> oh my
[11:37] <oimon> anyone in here looking to get their break into IT? i may have a job for you
[11:41] <BigRedS> what sort of job, and where? I know a couple of people
[11:43] <oimon> BigRedS: http://webapps.qmul.ac.uk/hr/vacancies/jobs.php?id=2470 << seems very well paid considering the list of essentials is very small. but a decent IT dude should climb the ladder is he/she is good
[11:44] <oimon> i would like decent people to get this job, rather than the bare minimum requirements
[11:46] <BigRedS> ooh, that's where I went!
[11:48] <oimon> BigRedS: which dept?
[11:50] <BigRedS> Eng
[11:50] <BigRedS> I dropped out of Aero Eng when I realised I preferred computers to aeroplanes
[11:50] <oimon> lol
[11:53] <BigRedS> Actually, the realisation was more that I wasn't anywhere near good enough at maths for an eng degree
[11:53] <BigRedS> do you work there?
[11:54] <directhex> grade 3?
[12:15] <oimon> BigRedS: yes
[12:49] <oimon> firefox5 is a bag of fail for me so far
[12:50]  * BigRedS is still on FF3.x
[12:50] <BigRedS> I'll upgrade when they give me my status bar back
[12:50] <oimon> look for the status4evar extension
[12:50] <BigRedS> yeah, I put that in 4
[12:50] <BigRedS> but it still makes no sense whatsoever to have removed it
[12:51] <BigRedS> it was already optional, why not just change teh default
[12:51] <oimon> however i'm on chrome and i don't like it, but FF is unresponsive and memhog
[12:51] <BigRedS> hah, actually, this PC's got ff4 on it, thinking about it
[12:51] <BigRedS> with a status bar extension thing
[12:56] <dogmatic69> anyone know how to install 'dot' the charting lib thing
[12:57] <dogmatic69> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOT_language
[12:58] <dogmatic69> graphviz was the one
[13:25] <brobostigon> good afternoon everyone,
[13:41] <dwatkins> Haha, they did a mashup of Zelda and Minecraft.
[13:50] <hoover> hey brobostigon
[13:51] <brobostigon> hey hoover
[14:19] <popey> Afternoon all
[14:19] <wintellect> hello popey
[14:19] <brobostigon> afternoonings popey and wintellect
[14:20] <wintellect> hi brobostigon
[14:22] <oimon> anyone played the game braid?
[14:23] <popey> YES
[14:23] <popey> -caps
[14:23] <oimon> popey: what am i missing? i didn't get on with it but people rave about it
[14:24] <popey> are you missing the 'rewind time' button? :D
[14:24] <oimon> is it that early puzzles are not solvable till later in the game?
[14:24] <popey> dunno, i haven't played it that much
[14:25] <oimon> it didn't give me much satisfaction and i put the game down after an hour or less
[14:28] <JGJones> I started playing it...I liked the idea of it.
[14:29] <JGJones> That was...um...probably over a month ago and that was the last time I played it and I only completed the first few levels.
[14:29] <JGJones> Haven't really gone back to it....there's nothing to make me WANT to play it.
[14:29] <oimon> yeah
[14:29] <oimon> same thing
[14:29] <JGJones> it's not rubbish though.
[14:30] <oimon> no
[14:30] <oimon> but not "unputdownable"
[14:30] <oimon> i often see others rave about it
[14:31] <Laney> I thought it was pretty fun (and difficult later on)
[14:46] <gord> don't worry oimon, i'v never liked it either
[14:46] <gord> just one of those things
[14:46] <gord> we can start a club if you'd like?
[14:46] <oimon> maybe it's about getting old
[14:47] <oimon> reminds me of games i used to play when i was young e.g. terramex on the archimedes
[14:50] <hoover> cheers all
[14:53] <directhex> oimon, i think braid is overhyped. it's way too self-aware of its "arthouse" status, based on pretentious bollocks
[14:53] <directhex> oimon, it's okay, as an entry in the time-bending puzzle platformer genre. but it's not anything so incredible, imho
[14:53] <popey> sounds about right
[14:54] <popey> are there many time-bending puzzle platformers ?
[14:54] <oimon> directhex: how about portal? did that leave you a bit ...meh too?
[14:54] <popey> enough for there to be a genre
[14:54] <directhex> oimon, no, portal was brilliant
[14:54] <directhex> popey, oh, sure! the misadventures of pb winterbottom, ratchet & clank a crack in time, etc etc etc
[14:54] <oimon> not sure i ever made it past training
[14:54] <directhex> oimon, the whole game is training. okay, 50%
[14:55] <oimon> oh. i got bored and never came back
[14:55] <directhex> oimon, do you not enjoy puzzle games?
[14:55] <gord> there are a few, few years back time manipulation was the gimmick of the day
[14:55] <popey> I loved portal and portal 2
[14:55] <oimon> hmm. good question. i used to
[14:56] <gord> the way braid handled it i found frustrating though - but thats just me, mainly the bits where going right made time go forward and going left made time go backwards
[14:56] <gord> made me think about *two* things at once, the cheek of it
[14:56] <directhex> there are two major puzzle grnes, really - the "realtime score attack" style ones, like tetris or most of bejeweled, or the "take your time, there's a right answer" ones like portal or a crossword
[14:57] <directhex> i don't much like the former. but the latter i like, as there's a real sense of accomplishment when you work out a difficult brain teaser
[14:57] <directhex> it's based on puzzle solving, not luck of the draw & reaction to it
[14:58] <oimon> a lot of 8bit home computer games were like that
[14:58] <oimon> because the graphics were lacking, they relied on gameplay
[14:58] <oimon> fond memories of citadel on the electron
[14:58] <oimon> and repton :)
[14:59] <directhex> i recently found spacechem. that game is *hard* as a puzzle title
[14:59] <Darael> Interesting, really, that now that super-shiny graphics are available they become one of the biggest things people judge a game on.  It wasn't always like that.  Then again, that could be the classic illusion that the past was better than the present speaking.
[14:59] <Darael> directhex: Spacechem is /good/.  Have you tried the other Zachtronics games?
[15:00] <oimon> i enjoyed machinarium recently
[15:00] <directhex> Darael, that's not true. graphics have ALWAYS been used to sell games. i remember the headlines along the lines of "unreal: is this the best looking game ever?" "quake 2: graphics don't get better than this" etc
[15:00] <directhex> oimon, that was nice. amanita design do a good job builting an atmosphere
[15:00] <Darael> directhex: Then it /is/ the classic illusion that the past was better than the present speaking.
[15:01] <directhex> Darael, infiniminer? no. i haven't played it
[15:01] <oimon> the graphics of old games are far better in my mind ..when i go to youtube to check them, they suck
[15:01] <directhex> oimon, true. heh
[15:02] <Darael> directhex: zachtronics did a few good games in Flash, too.  Notably KOHCTPYTOP.  Also the Codex of Alchemical Engineering, with a similar premise to Spacechem.
[15:02] <directhex> i'm not a big fan of games that try to look realistic, because they fail at it. i much prefer stylized visuals, something with art direction beyond "make this realistic"
[15:02] <Darael> Downside, of course is that they're in Flash.
[15:02] <directhex> Darael, mention that spacechem is mono, and watch people freak out
[15:02] <oimon> zarch is still as i remember it though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALfnZjCiuUQ
[15:02] <Darael> directhex: True enough.
[16:03] <oimon> i was on the cusp of converting my brother in law to ubuntu whilst on holiday, however i only had 11.04 on my pocket usb stick, rather than 10.04 :(
[16:05] <BigRedS> what's wrong with 11.04?
[16:06] <oimon> changed his mind after a few apps crashed
[16:06] <oimon> and he didn't like global menu
[16:06] <BigRedS> so log him into gnome 2
[16:06] <brobostigon> or show him gnome3 ?
[16:06] <oimon> he was trying the livecd
[16:07] <oimon> better just to give LTS really
[16:07] <popey> what crashed?
[16:07] <ali1234> 11.04 is the most buggy release since the botched pulseaudio integration... so yeah
[16:07] <BigRedS> you let people try these things *before* wiping their boot sector? Madness
[16:07] <oimon> shotwell and banshee
[16:07] <BigRedS> the only real bugs I've hit in 11.04 is this thing where empathy disappears every so often. I'm really quite pleased that all the bugs I'm finding are pretty trivial
[16:08] <oimon> also i seem to have discovered on my own laptop that f-spot doesn't import photos while banshee is running - need to try replicate it on another pc
[16:08] <ali1234> there's also a lot of bugs where it looks like programs have crashed, but really they haven't, due to incredibly poor design decisions
[16:08] <ali1234> for example, firefox and synaptic
[16:09] <oimon> it would be poor form to recommend 11.04 when i don't use it myself
[16:09] <ali1234> it would be incredibly poor form to recommend 11.04 whether you use it or not
[16:09] <ali1234> unless you really hate the person you are recommending it to
[16:10] <BigRedS> A few of the people I 'support' are on 11.04 now
[16:10] <oimon> he is a win7 user usually but it is having issues on his laptop. KDE 11.04 could be good choice though
[16:10] <BigRedS> KDE's never a good choice
[16:11] <oimon> while on holiday he plugged his HD video camera into his win7 laptop and realised he couldn't import the movies becaause he hadn't installed the exact zoombrowser software that came with the videocam. plugged into my lucid laptop and he was able to browse and retrieve the files :)
[16:11] <oimon> then he discovered that he could browse his iphone.
[16:11] <brobostigon> oimon: cool,:)
[16:12] <oimon> so we almost sealed the deal :)
[16:12] <oimon> except i brought the wrong version with me and we had only slow net access
[16:12] <oimon> wubi also failed from the usb stick
[16:12] <oimon> when i have time i have a good few bugs to report
[16:13] <oimon> i think the wubi fail was the main reason he didn't at least dual boot
[18:18] <kailan> hi, my sound button has gone in ubuntu 11.04, how do i get it back
[18:27] <AlanBell> evening all
[18:27]  * AlanBell has a new keyboard
[18:29] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: does it work? :)
[18:29] <AlanBell> http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_details.asp?PRODUCT=646
[18:29] <AlanBell> oh yes :)
[18:35] <popey> "brown switch"
[18:36] <popey> holy hell, 95 quid ex vat!
[18:36] <AlanBell> yup
[18:36] <AlanBell> it is a good one
[18:36]  * popey closes the tab
[18:36] <AlanBell> but this one doesn't have a windows key \o/
[18:37] <popey> Not sure that's worth 95 quid
[18:40] <AlanBell> you pay for quality
[18:40] <AlanBell> it is kind of nice
[18:46] <AlanBell> well when I say "pay" what I mean is other people might pay for quality
[18:47] <MartijnVdS> oh taxpayers paid for it? :P
[18:48] <AlanBell> funnily enough they have a lot of public sector customers
[18:48] <AlanBell> I think the treasury and HMRC is full of these keyboards
[18:59] <popey> i want to get my IBM Model M back out and use it, but sadly it has no Windows key ☹
[19:00] <popey> it pre-dates windows keys by some margin
[19:00] <AlanBell> yay
[19:00] <popey> which makes using unity annoying
[19:00] <MartijnVdS> popey: I still have a serial three-button (no wheel) mouse here somewhere
[19:00] <AlanBell> that was an outstandingly bold marketing move at the time
[19:00] <MartijnVdS> popey: that's also an interesting experience ;)
[19:01] <popey> MartijnVdS: so do I ☺
[19:01] <MartijnVdS> and a PS/2 keypad
[19:01] <MartijnVdS> number pad*
[19:09] <Azelphur> I just bought a USB numpad for £2.95 from a shop
[19:09] <Azelphur> when gnome15 updates to have multiple driver backend support, which will be soon, I'mma hack it up so I can use it like this thing http://www.piengineering.com/xkeys/xk24.php
[19:10] <Azelphur> and then troll all the people who paid $130 for it with "Lol I did that with a $4 numpad in Linux, /point /laugh"
[19:12] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: T9?
[19:13] <Azelphur> what's T9?
[19:14] <Azelphur> predictive text? what does that have to do with it o.O
[19:14] <MartijnVdS> you could write a "predictive text" keyboard driver
[19:14] <MartijnVdS> so you can use the numpad to enter text
[19:15] <Azelphur> oh
[19:15] <Azelphur> that sounds a bit pointless unless your very constrained for space
[19:15] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: sounds like a wonderful adaptation if you only have one hand
[19:15] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: most people who buy those xkeys are gamers that play games where you benefit from having loooooads of keybinds
[19:15] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: there are one handed keyboard layouts for that
[19:16] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: that would work as well
[19:16] <Azelphur> yea, for people with one hand you have single handed keyboard layouts, you got single handed dvorak and stuff
[19:16] <Azelphur> I was planning on making it so you could abuse a numpad as a macro pad, like the x-keys
[19:17] <MartijnVdS> a hardware unity bar :)
[19:17] <Azelphur> then it's as good as an xkeys, but for £3 :D
[19:39] <jacobw> o/ hamitron
[19:40] <hamitron> hi jacobw
[19:40] <hamitron> :)
[19:43] <popey> AlanBell: have you tried hangouts in plus?
[19:43] <jacobw> hows the slackware going?
[19:46] <AlanBell> popey: not yet
[19:47] <AlanBell> popey: I was thinking about it yesterday but I hadn't shaved for a few days and was looking scruffy ;)
[19:47] <popey> i just switched it on
[19:47] <popey> join me?
[19:47] <popey> for testing
[19:52] <hamitron> jacobw: on windows 7 atm
[19:52] <jacobw> :o
[19:52] <hamitron> I've setup a seperate comp for testing
[19:52] <jacobw> :)
[19:52] <hamitron> and linux just doesn't do what I want now, so will have to spend some time on that
[19:53] <hamitron> s/linux/linux distros
[19:54] <hamitron> not giving up, just sat back sulking
[19:54] <hamitron> will make some progress later
[19:54] <hamitron> :)
[19:56] <jacobw> sulking is fun
[19:56] <dogmatic69_> bah, git is being a pos
[19:57] <MartijnVdS> use bzr ;)
[19:57] <hamitron> jacobw: not got the motination to work on it yet
[19:57] <hamitron> motivation*
[19:57] <dogmatic69_> MartijnVdS: you will never guess the size of my repo vs actual size of files
[19:58] <MartijnVdS> dogmatic69_: 1kb
[19:59] <dogmatic69_> he
[19:59] <dogmatic69_> try 250mb / 4.5mb
[19:59] <dogmatic69_> Receiving objects: 100% (59919/59919), 213.21 MiB | 916 KiB/s, done.
[20:01] <dogmatic69_> nautilus says '233 items, totalling 5.2 MB'
[20:04] <MartijnVdS> dogmatic69_: have you tried "git gc"?
[20:04] <dogmatic69_> MartijnVdS: ye, its a new repo... +- 30 commits
[20:05] <dogmatic69_> 2 branches, 1st one has one commit
[20:05] <MartijnVdS> dogmatic69_: did you check in a large file, then delete it again?
[20:05] <MartijnVdS> git count-objects -v
[20:05] <dogmatic69_> count: 29
[20:06] <dogmatic69_> in-pack: 27752
[20:06] <dogmatic69_> prune-packable: 0
[20:06] <dogmatic69_> garbage: 0
[20:06] <MartijnVdS> dogmatic69_: git gc --aggressive?
[20:07] <dogmatic69_> MartijnVdS: how do i push that to remote?
[20:07] <MartijnVdS> dogmatic69_: you don't.. you do it on remote as well
[20:07] <MartijnVdS> I think
[20:07] <MartijnVdS> ask #git
[20:08] <dogmatic69_> bah
[20:08] <dogmatic69_> just done it on the wrong repo :D
[20:09] <MartijnVdS> gc is just garbage-collect
[20:09] <MartijnVdS> wont damage the repo
[20:13] <ali1234> it does have one nasty side effect
[20:13] <ali1234> it repacks all the objects
[20:13] <ali1234> so if you export the repo over http
[20:13] <ali1234> next time someone pulls they have to download the whole thing all over again
[20:34]  * penguin42 notes you can buy a 6 pack of cornettos from Iceland for £2 - the challenge when you're out in a strange town is how to give away the ones you can't eat; it's cheaper than buying one large ice cream from somewhere
[20:36] <popey> haha
[20:42] <Azelphur> penguin42: you can buy an entire tub from tescos for like 40p
[20:43] <Azelphur> I used to do that, people grumbled at me :(
[20:43] <penguin42> Azelphur: Yeh but eating tubs on the go is hard (unless you take a spoon)
[20:43] <Azelphur> plastic spoons from tesco are like 10p
[20:43] <Azelphur> heck you could probably buy a bowl and everything and still be cheaper XD
[20:44]  * penguin42 has bought the 3 pack of Magnums from Tesco before today - they're about the same every where else sells one - and I can definitely do 2 and can manage 3 :-)
[20:48]  * jacobw can't imagine not being able to eat ice cream
[20:49] <MartijnVdS> jacobw: eat some more :)
[20:49] <jacobw> but.. but.. i'll get fat :p
[20:50] <penguin42> jacobw: Icecream as far as I can tell has less calories than bars of chocolate (at the rate I can eat the two for comparison)
[20:50] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: Running compensates for my chocolate & ice cream add^H^H^Hhabits
[20:51] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: Oh I don't do anything vaguely that energetic
[20:51] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: http://t.co/fMcgEEs
[20:51] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: just got back :)
[20:51] <jacobw> i can't be bothered to exercise in this hot weather
[20:51] <MartijnVdS> Average Moving Speed: 11.25 km/h (7.0 mi/h)
[20:51] <MartijnVdS> Total Distance: 4.39 km (2.7 mi)
[20:52] <MartijnVdS> I usually run 3 times that distance, but I have an excuse (sore foot)
[20:52] <jacobw> you haven't broken your right toe have you?
[20:52] <MartijnVdS> jacobw: Not unless my right toe is near my heel, no
[20:52] <jacobw> that was david haye's excuse this weekend
[20:53] <MartijnVdS> David Who?
[20:53] <MartijnVdS> a boxer?
[20:53] <MartijnVdS> well he IS only 5 days older than I am
[20:53] <jacobw> yeah.
[20:53] <jacobw> ha.
[20:54] <MartijnVdS> jacobw: unless he's a kick-boxer, he shouldn't whine about his toe :P
[20:54] <jacobw> haha, good logic.
[20:56] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: Well according to google earth I've walked about 2.8Miles today
[20:56] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: Mostly in a very relaxed way in the sun
[20:56] <Gizmo_the_Great> hey...anyone here work for Canonical? I just intrigued to know about the recruitment procedure
[20:57] <AlanBell> Gizmo_the_Great: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/careers
[20:57] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: I need to run, or I'll gain as much weight as I lost in the past year
[20:57] <Gizmo_the_Great> AlanBell: yeah, I been there already
[20:57] <jacobw> ++exercise;
[20:57] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: I can sympathise with that - I can easily gain lotsof weight
[20:58]  * MartijnVdS lookes at the list for http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/1032/detail/
[20:59] <Gizmo_the_Great> AlanBell: I applied about 5 weeks for a role and was told about 10 days ago that they were sifting the applications, but I not heard anything back as yet. Odly, the position I applied for went from 'Closed' (after 4 weeks of being advertised) back to open, and it is still open now, 5 weeks after I first applied. I trying to establish if that is normal for them, or not
[20:59] <AlanBell> Gizmo_the_Great: sounds normal to me
[20:59] <Gizmo_the_Great> AlanBell: you think so?
[21:00] <Gizmo_the_Great> AlanBell: i have worked for government most of my life so not sure what 'normal' recruitment practises are like
[21:00] <Gizmo_the_Great> seems odd to have gone from open to closed to open I thought
[21:01] <penguin42> Gizmo_the_Great: It's possible that a candidate was offered a place but went elsewhere
[21:01] <penguin42> (says he not knowing)
[21:02] <Gizmo_the_Great> penguin42: i wondered that, but it happened very quickly, and the e-mail I got was (I think, from memory) the same day it was reverted back to open. I didn't want to keep pestering them and sound like an over enthusisastic idiot but I am desperate to know one way or the other
[21:02] <Gizmo_the_Great> if I even got through to interview
[21:02] <Gizmo_the_Great> if I even get through to interview, rather
[21:03]  * StevenR wonders how to redirect the sound output from a kvm vm to a file
[21:05] <MartijnVdS> StevenR: same way you would any ALSA app?
[21:06] <MartijnVdS> StevenR: get a "write to file" ALSA (or pulse?) driver and have the kvm process it use that
[21:08] <StevenR> MartijnVdS: yeah, it's the "making kvm push it's output somewhere" bit
[21:08] <StevenR> ahh. I know where to look next
[21:08] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Alan Bell] A Super key you will want to press - http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/07/04/a-super-key-you-will-want-to-press/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=a-super-key-you-will-want-to-press
[21:11] <Laney> that's so almost a nice url
[21:11] <Azelphur> AlanBell: I did that on the cheap http://azelphur.com/system/files/images/2010-08-18%2019.21.54.jpg :P
[21:11] <MartijnVdS> Blurry picture is blurry :)
[21:11] <Azelphur> hehe
[21:13] <Laney> this http://www.famouslogos.org/logos/superman-logo.jpg is more appropriate for the super key imho
[21:17] <Azelphur> lol
[21:18] <jacobw> haha
[21:31] <jacobw> Azelphur: that eeePC is exactly like mine .. :P
[21:31] <Azelphur> funny coincidence that isn't it :P
[21:44] <StevenR> MartijnVdS: ok..so it records. All I need now is something to buffer the output :)
[21:44] <StevenR> (it's a little choppy)
[21:53] <StevenR> MartijnVdS: actually, it turns out that this file is all choppy, when I play another, it's lovely.
[21:58] <Azelphur> hmm, I'm following the instructions here, specifically Step 2, configure passwordless login
[21:58] <Azelphur> I did that, but it still asks me for a password. :(
[21:59] <Azelphur> by here I mean here http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-rsnapshot-backup-howto/
[22:00] <Azelphur> dunno quite why I didn't paste the URL >.<
[23:47] <brobostigon> good night everyone, sleep well.