[03:36]  * skellat waves
[04:43] <Unit193> Howdy!
[04:47] <canthus13> herro.
[04:55] <skellat> Yo
[04:56] <Unit193> It's alive!
[04:56] <skellat> If y'all were wonderin' what the recording scenario looks like for podcast type thingies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1ygxs1IGbA
[04:56] <skellat> Unit193: How goes your Sunday?
[04:57] <Unit193> skellat: Very well! I had a thing with family
[04:57] <skellat> Excellent.  I've been fixing tech things today.
[04:59] <skellat> And got to get through an entire church service without having to rush off to work
[05:03] <Cheri703> o/
[05:07] <Unit193> Cheri703: Howdy!
[05:07] <Cheri703> how are you?
[05:10] <Unit193> ^^^ Same as before ;)  How be you?
[05:10] <Cheri703> I'm alright overall
[05:13] <skellat> Google+ makes less sense so far than FriendFeed ever did
[05:13] <Cheri703> so far I'm a fan
[05:14] <skellat> Too many librarian types are already involved in it.
[05:14] <Cheri703> eh, I like the features
[05:17] <skellat> The litmus test is to see if the librarian types are still using it after a week
[05:17] <skellat> Librarians at large in the US go through social networks like a person with severe allergies ravages facial tissue boxes
[05:18] <skellat> I call it the social (network) butterfly effect
[05:19] <skellat> Always searching for the next best thing, never settling on anything for the here & now
[05:19] <Cheri703> skellat: did my invite to you work properly?
[05:20] <skellat> Cheri703: Yep
[05:20] <Cheri703> cool :)
[05:21] <skellat> My cat just tried to climb my dresser and failed in an epic fashion
[05:21] <Cheri703> hehe
[05:22] <Cheri703> I am waiting for tonight's episode of true blood to be finished...acquiring...
[05:22] <Cheri703> >.>
[05:22] <Cheri703> <.<
[05:27] <Cheri703> and I have kept my living room "company ready" for more than 48 hours STRAIGHT! it's craziness... (normally it gets cluttery again pretty quickly)
[05:28] <canthus13> Heh. mine didn't even survive the entire day yesterday...
[05:29] <Unit193> Company ready? Naaa... We'll just go to them :P
[05:29]  * Cheri703 is consciously trying to keep it clean, parents coming wednesday, still more to do
[05:30]  * skellat ponders the e-mail he got from the Forum Council
[05:30] <Cheri703> true blood is such an insane show...
[05:34] <skellat> And now to wander off to bed...
[05:46] <Unit193> I guess we don't get to see it?
[19:53] <canthus13> Cheri703: Which webcam do you have?
[19:53] <Cheri703> it is an internal "bisoncam nb pro"
[19:58] <Cheri703> so annoyed by this
[19:58] <canthus13> Huh.. I'm not even really sure what mine is.
[19:58] <canthus13> it works, though.. it just doesn't seem to be showing up in lsusb or lspci.
[19:58] <Cheri703> I told them that if any of these issues recurred I wanted a refund...not sure if this counts since it's not *quite* the same thing, but...same result: non-functioning webcam
[20:00] <canthus13> beh.  Looks like the Loco will keep pimpin' System76. :)
[20:00]  * canthus13 is annoyed now.  Can't figure out what cam he has... 
[20:01] <canthus13> It works, it just doesn't show up. :/
[20:03] <Cheri703> rawr
[20:03] <Cheri703> try gnome-device-manager
[20:10] <_bbb> lsusb
[20:11] <canthus13> Heh. wow. nothing.
[20:11] <canthus13> Well, it's there.. but it's still useless.
[20:12] <canthus13> model:  Integrated_Webcam_1.3M
[20:12] <canthus13> how obnoxious.
[20:12] <canthus13> subsystem: video4linux
[20:12] <canthus13> Whatever.. it works.
[20:12] <canthus13> never had any issues.
[20:14]  * canthus13 ponders disassembling his laptop to find out.
[20:15] <Cheri703> :/
[20:15] <_bbb> dell?
[20:15] <Cheri703> heh, don't know if it's worth that much effort
[20:15] <canthus13> Mine? Yes.
[20:15] <canthus13> Cheri703: I know... It works, so why mess with it. :)
[20:17] <_bbb> whats the asset tag
[20:17] <_bbb> or whatever its called
[20:18] <_bbb> dmidecode -s system-serial-number
[20:20] <_bbb> sudo make me a sandwich
[20:22] <canthus13> 87SL1K1
[20:25] <_bbb> hmm can you get to support.dell.com ? I can't. =)
[20:32] <Cheri703> canthus13: do you agree with my hypothesis that if the problem persists across multiple OS installations AND a liveboot that it's likely a hardware/firmware thing vs a software/user-caused thing?
[20:37] <Cheri703> also: IF I could convince zareason to just refund me all money spent on this process so far (though I doubt they'd refund shipping, even though they should) I wonder if I could convince system76 to give me a discount...
[20:53] <canthus13> Cheri703: Yep. it's hardware.
[21:15]  * Cheri703 is tired of having to deal with them
[21:15] <canthus13> I don't blame you.
[21:15] <Cheri703> don't really want to deal with more crappiness from the lady
[21:16] <Cheri703> and considering the initial shipping costs, and the $25 or so I spent to ship it in for repairs last time, if I have to ship it back AGAIN, I will be demanding refunds of those costs as well...
[21:16] <Cheri703> an equivalent system76, with 6cell battery is like $444, this was $399 at purchase time, so if all of the shipping was refunded, I'd be close
[21:17] <Cheri703> I'm trying to decide if I'd be open to replacement with the newer model of teo...not sure
[21:19] <canthus13> ...You could present it to her face-to-face in september... :)
[21:19] <canthus13> (Or would we need a referee?
[21:30] <Cheri703> well, I'm not waiting that long to deal with it, though if they piss about it, I'd be more than happy to discuss it with her in a very public place...MORE than happy to share with others about how she talked to/about me
[21:31] <Cheri703> I am giving them one last chance to do right, and then I am done. I will loudly proclaim the issues I have had with my machine. I've been reasonably quiet about it up to this point (other than a few specific locations)
[21:31] <Cheri703> I don't care if it is the cheapest machine they sell, you know what? I am a paying customer, I paid for a working machine that would last me more than a few months, and the replacement should last more than a few months as well. it's insane
[21:32] <Cheri703> bah, going to go be productive for a bit
[21:32] <Cheri703> back in a while
[21:46] <canthus13> Ok. have fun. :)
[22:08] <Cheri703> made a bit more progress
[22:09] <Cheri703> decided that the rest of cleaning the bathroom will wait til the day my parents are arriving, as we are going to be bathing 3 dogs between now and then, so it'd be futile to get it all sparkling clean first
[22:09] <Cheri703> still have the kitchen and garage to finish though. garage is closer to done/tolerable than the kitchen though, and husband keeps saying he'll help but then keeps playing his stupid games
[22:16] <canthus13> Cheri703: Pile everything around him.
[22:16] <canthus13> ..or on him. :)
[22:17] <Cheri703> I would if the primary items available for piling weren't either dishes or dog hair tumbleweeds from the garage
[22:18] <canthus13> Heh.
[22:18] <canthus13> Wall him in, cask of amontillado style...
[22:19] <Cheri703> hmm...I've pondered it...I could do something I've done in the past, when he's being particularly ridiculous...make the router deny his mac address internet access...
[22:19] <Cheri703> that gets his attention pretty quick, but he throws tantrums
[22:23] <deejoe> if only you could just degrade the QoS to a slightly frustrating level
[22:25] <Cheri703> yeah, my router doesn't let me change QoS, and I can't install other firmware, I totally would go that route...passive/aggressive, yes, but sometimes the only thing that works to get him to come up for air :/
[22:26] <canthus13> Heh.