seifhey guys14:18
seifon my thinkpad x201 14:18
seifthe touchpad is not working on oneirick14:18
tjaaltonseif: logfile please14:22
tjaaltonnot that..14:23
tjaalton16:22 < tjaalton> seif: logfile please14:32
seiftjaalton, how do i get that14:32
tjaaltonapt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log14:33
tjaaltonand paste the link here14:33
tjaaltonok, so how is it "broken"14:35
seifthe touchpad is not responding14:37
seifonly the nipple thingie14:37
tjaaltonat least the driver loaded just fine14:38
tjaaltoncan you see the touchpad from the output of 'xinput list'?14:38
seifyep its there14:40
seif⎡ Virtual core pointer                    id=2[master pointer  (3)]14:40
seif⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              id=4[slave  pointer  (2)]14:40
seif⎜   ↳ TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint                   id=13[slave  pointer  (2)]14:40
seif⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad   14:40
tjaaltonum, it doesn't have an id= ?14:41
seif⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad              id=11[slave  pointer  (2)]14:41
seifit does14:41
tjaaltonxinput list-props 11 |grep -i enabled ?14:41
seifDevice Enabled (132):014:42
tjaaltonthere you go14:43
tjaaltonsomething has disabled it14:43
seifhow do i enable it 14:43
tjaaltonwhich desktop?14:43
tseliotmaybe a gconf key disabled it?14:43
tseliotlaunch the "mouse" app and try to enable it from there14:44
tseliotyou should see a tab about "touchpads"14:44
seifi did14:46
seifshould i restart the session14:46
seifwell its not working14:46
tseliotcan you put the full output of "xinput list-props 11" on pastebin, please?14:46
tjaaltonxinput set-int-prop 11 "Device Enabled" 1 814:47
jcristauxinput set-prop 11 'Device Enabled' 114:47
tjaaltonis the last bit still needed?14:47
tseliotright, we have that now14:47
tjaaltonI'm not sure14:47
tjaaltonah, set-prop14:47
jcristaui wrote that code :)14:47
seifinvalid format14:47
tjaaltonseif: try what jcristau gave14:48
seifyeah both did not work14:48
seifbut 14:48
seif8 1 worked14:48
seifyet still no mouse14:48
tjaaltonsomething is actively disabling it then?14:49
tjaaltonanyway, user config issue :)14:49
jcristauseif: and list-props still says it's 0?14:49
seifjcristau, ^14:53
tseliotit's still 014:53
tseliotit's not supposed to work...14:53
seifhow can we make it work14:54
jcristauturn off whatever's disabling it14:55
tseliotand I think we can rule out gnome-settings-daemon if setting values manually doesn't change the value14:55
seifseif@Wumbo:~/Projects/gnome-tweak-tool$ xinput set-int-prop 11 "Device Enabled" 1 814:55
seifInvalid format 114:55
tseliotunless you have a crazy daemon which sets things back to 0...14:55
tseliotseif: format should be 814:56
tseliotthe value should be 114:56
tseliotswap the numbers14:56
seifi did14:56
seifsomething is disabling it14:56
tseliotand what did you get with 1 8?14:56
seiftseliot, nothing14:57
tjaaltonapt-get install dconf-tools14:57
tseliotseif: try this and see if it still happens: killall gnome-settings-daemon14:57
tseliotthen use the command again14:57
tseliotand see if the touchpad remains enabled14:57
tjaaltonopen dconf-editor, then check /org/gnome/settings-daemon/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad-enabled14:57
seifok now its working14:59
seb128speaking of trackpad, what could make one not being listed in xinput list?15:00
seifit works15:00
seifrestarted session and it works like charm15:00
tjaaltonwhat did you do?15:01
seifwhat you todl me to15:01
seifchanged it from dconf-editor15:01
tjaaltonchanged what?15:01
tjaaltonthat setting?15:01
seifclicked the enabled thingie15:01
seifalso i killed the gnome-settings-daemon15:01
tjaaltonseb128: if no input driver is loaded for it15:04
seb128tjaalton, said differently "why is my touchpad not listed there and how do I turn it off" ;-)15:04
tjaaltonseb128: if xinput list doesn't show it, it means X doesn't know it exists15:05
tjaaltonso it's "off"15:05
tjaaltonbut maybe you meant to turn it on15:06
seb128it's for sure no "off", I keep clicking on it by touching it with my palms15:06
tjaaltonbut then xinput surely has it?15:06
jcristaupastebin xinput list and X log?15:06
seb128⎡ Virtual core pointer                    id=2[master pointer  (3)]15:06
seb128⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              id=4[slave  pointer  (2)]15:06
seb128⎜   ↳ Logitech Optical USB Mouse              id=10[slave  pointer  (2)]15:06
seb128⎜   ↳ ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint                  id=14[slave  pointer  (2)]15:06
tjaaltonah, lovely alphs15:07
jcristauseb128: well, it's there...15:07
seb128isn't glidepoint the trackpad?15:07
seb128I've both a small round bit in the middle of the keyboard and a touchpad15:07
seb128I've an USB mouse as well15:07
tjaaltonaiui there's no "disable while typing" for that, since it's using the evdev driver and not synaptics15:08
tjaaltonseb128: the round thing is trackpoint15:08
tjaaltonaka the nipple :)15:08
seb128that's why it's not in the gnome-control-center tab I guess15:08
seb128so I've a trackpoint and a touchpad15:08
seb128and I want to turn the touchpad off15:08
seb128how do I do that?15:08
tjaaltonbut the trackpoint is not listed and doesn't work?15:08
seb128they both work15:08
seb128I want to turn the touchpad off15:08
tjaaltonjust not on the list above, but ok15:09
seb128since I don't use it but keep palm clicking it15:09
tjaaltonxinput set-prop 14 "Device Enabled" 015:09
tjaaltonfor the running session15:09
tjaaltonthen a config snippet in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ to disable it permanently15:09
tjaaltonsee man xorg.conf, Section "InputClass", and Option "Ignore" "boolean"15:11
seb128so the reason why it's not seen as a touchpad in GNOME is because it uses evdev?15:11
seb128that will work for me I guess but is not really user friendly :-(15:11
tjaaltonI don't know if it could be made to work15:11
tjaaltonactually, I have such a machine here.. but I think it needs kernel work15:12
tjaaltonor maybe not, should just try it out15:12
tjaaltonright, the kernel doesn't list alps as a touchpad, just as a ps/2 mouse15:25
tjaaltonand forcing synaptics doesn't work15:30
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