| seif | hey guys | 14:18 |
|---|---|---|
| seif | on my thinkpad x201 | 14:18 |
| seif | the touchpad is not working on oneirick | 14:18 |
| tjaalton | seif: logfile please | 14:22 |
| tjaalton | not that.. | 14:23 |
| seif | guys | 14:32 |
| seif | ? | 14:32 |
| tjaalton | 16:22 < tjaalton> seif: logfile please | 14:32 |
| seif | tjaalton, how do i get that | 14:32 |
| seif | ? | 14:33 |
| tjaalton | apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 14:33 |
| tjaalton | and paste the link here | 14:33 |
| seif | http://paste.ubuntu.com/637934/ | 14:34 |
| tjaalton | ok, so how is it "broken" | 14:35 |
| seif | the touchpad is not responding | 14:37 |
| seif | only the nipple thingie | 14:37 |
| seif | :) | 14:37 |
| tjaalton | at least the driver loaded just fine | 14:38 |
| tjaalton | can you see the touchpad from the output of 'xinput list'? | 14:38 |
| seif | yep its there | 14:40 |
| seif | ⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2[master pointer (3)] | 14:40 |
| seif | ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4[slave pointer (2)] | 14:40 |
| seif | ⎜ ↳ TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint id=13[slave pointer (2)] | 14:40 |
| seif | ⎜ ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad | 14:40 |
| tjaalton | um, it doesn't have an id= ? | 14:41 |
| seif | ⎜ ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad id=11[slave pointer (2)] | 14:41 |
| seif | sorry | 14:41 |
| seif | :) | 14:41 |
| seif | it does | 14:41 |
| tjaalton | xinput list-props 11 |grep -i enabled ? | 14:41 |
| seif | Device Enabled (132):0 | 14:42 |
| tjaalton | there you go | 14:43 |
| tjaalton | something has disabled it | 14:43 |
| seif | :( | 14:43 |
| seif | how do i enable it | 14:43 |
| tjaalton | which desktop? | 14:43 |
| seif | unity | 14:43 |
| tseliot | maybe a gconf key disabled it? | 14:43 |
| tjaalton | maybe | 14:43 |
| tseliot | launch the "mouse" app and try to enable it from there | 14:44 |
| tseliot | you should see a tab about "touchpads" | 14:44 |
| seif | i did | 14:46 |
| seif | should i restart the session | 14:46 |
| seif | ? | 14:46 |
| tjaalton | no | 14:46 |
| seif | well its not working | 14:46 |
| tseliot | can you put the full output of "xinput list-props 11" on pastebin, please? | 14:46 |
| tjaalton | xinput set-int-prop 11 "Device Enabled" 1 8 | 14:47 |
| jcristau | xinput set-prop 11 'Device Enabled' 1 | 14:47 |
| jcristau | :) | 14:47 |
| tjaalton | is the last bit still needed? | 14:47 |
| tseliot | right, we have that now | 14:47 |
| tjaalton | I'm not sure | 14:47 |
| tjaalton | ah, set-prop | 14:47 |
| tjaalton | shorter | 14:47 |
| jcristau | i wrote that code :) | 14:47 |
| seif | invalid format | 14:47 |
| tseliot | :) | 14:47 |
| tjaalton | seif: try what jcristau gave | 14:48 |
| seif | yeah both did not work | 14:48 |
| seif | but | 14:48 |
| seif | 8 1 worked | 14:48 |
| jcristau | wtf. | 14:48 |
| seif | yet still no mouse | 14:48 |
| tjaalton | something is actively disabling it then? | 14:49 |
| tjaalton | anyway, user config issue :) | 14:49 |
| jcristau | seif: and list-props still says it's 0? | 14:49 |
| seif | http://pastebin.com/10hwUiJd | 14:50 |
| seif | jcristau, ^ | 14:53 |
| tseliot | it's still 0 | 14:53 |
| tseliot | it's not supposed to work... | 14:53 |
| seif | how can we make it work | 14:54 |
| jcristau | turn off whatever's disabling it | 14:55 |
| tseliot | and I think we can rule out gnome-settings-daemon if setting values manually doesn't change the value | 14:55 |
| seif | seif@Wumbo:~/Projects/gnome-tweak-tool$ xinput set-int-prop 11 "Device Enabled" 1 8 | 14:55 |
| seif | Invalid format 1 | 14:55 |
| tseliot | unless you have a crazy daemon which sets things back to 0... | 14:55 |
| tseliot | seif: format should be 8 | 14:56 |
| tseliot | the value should be 1 | 14:56 |
| tseliot | swap the numbers | 14:56 |
| seif | i did | 14:56 |
| seif | hmmmmmmm | 14:56 |
| seif | something is disabling it | 14:56 |
| tseliot | and what did you get with 1 8? | 14:56 |
| seif | tseliot, nothing | 14:57 |
| tjaalton | apt-get install dconf-tools | 14:57 |
| tseliot | seif: try this and see if it still happens: killall gnome-settings-daemon | 14:57 |
| tseliot | then use the command again | 14:57 |
| tseliot | and see if the touchpad remains enabled | 14:57 |
| tjaalton | open dconf-editor, then check /org/gnome/settings-daemon/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad-enabled | 14:57 |
| seif | afdasf | 14:58 |
| seif | fsa | 14:58 |
| seif | f | 14:58 |
| seif | a | 14:58 |
| seif | ok now its working | 14:59 |
| seb128 | speaking of trackpad, what could make one not being listed in xinput list? | 15:00 |
| seif | it works | 15:00 |
| seif | restarted session and it works like charm | 15:00 |
| tjaalton | what did you do? | 15:01 |
| seif | what you todl me to | 15:01 |
| seif | changed it from dconf-editor | 15:01 |
| tjaalton | and? | 15:01 |
| tjaalton | changed what? | 15:01 |
| tjaalton | that setting? | 15:01 |
| seif | clicked the enabled thingie | 15:01 |
| seif | also i killed the gnome-settings-daemon | 15:01 |
| tjaalton | seb128: if no input driver is loaded for it | 15:04 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, said differently "why is my touchpad not listed there and how do I turn it off" ;-) | 15:04 |
| tjaalton | seb128: if xinput list doesn't show it, it means X doesn't know it exists | 15:05 |
| tjaalton | so it's "off" | 15:05 |
| tjaalton | but maybe you meant to turn it on | 15:06 |
| seb128 | it's for sure no "off", I keep clicking on it by touching it with my palms | 15:06 |
| tjaalton | but then xinput surely has it? | 15:06 |
| jcristau | pastebin xinput list and X log? | 15:06 |
| seb128 | ⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2[master pointer (3)] | 15:06 |
| seb128 | ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4[slave pointer (2)] | 15:06 |
| seb128 | ⎜ ↳ Logitech Optical USB Mouse id=10[slave pointer (2)] | 15:06 |
| seb128 | ⎜ ↳ ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint id=14[slave pointer (2)] | 15:06 |
| tjaalton | ah, lovely alphs | 15:07 |
| tjaalton | alps | 15:07 |
| jcristau | seb128: well, it's there... | 15:07 |
| seb128 | isn't glidepoint the trackpad? | 15:07 |
| seb128 | I've both a small round bit in the middle of the keyboard and a touchpad | 15:07 |
| seb128 | I've an USB mouse as well | 15:07 |
| tjaalton | aiui there's no "disable while typing" for that, since it's using the evdev driver and not synaptics | 15:08 |
| seb128 | hum | 15:08 |
| tjaalton | seb128: the round thing is trackpoint | 15:08 |
| tjaalton | aka the nipple :) | 15:08 |
| seb128 | that's why it's not in the gnome-control-center tab I guess | 15:08 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:08 |
| seb128 | so I've a trackpoint and a touchpad | 15:08 |
| tjaalton | yes | 15:08 |
| seb128 | and I want to turn the touchpad off | 15:08 |
| seb128 | how do I do that? | 15:08 |
| tjaalton | but the trackpoint is not listed and doesn't work? | 15:08 |
| seb128 | they both work | 15:08 |
| tjaalton | ok | 15:08 |
| seb128 | I want to turn the touchpad off | 15:08 |
| tjaalton | just not on the list above, but ok | 15:09 |
| seb128 | since I don't use it but keep palm clicking it | 15:09 |
| tjaalton | xinput set-prop 14 "Device Enabled" 0 | 15:09 |
| tjaalton | for the running session | 15:09 |
| tjaalton | then a config snippet in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ to disable it permanently | 15:09 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:10 |
| tjaalton | see man xorg.conf, Section "InputClass", and Option "Ignore" "boolean" | 15:11 |
| seb128 | so the reason why it's not seen as a touchpad in GNOME is because it uses evdev? | 15:11 |
| tjaalton | right | 15:11 |
| seb128 | that will work for me I guess but is not really user friendly :-( | 15:11 |
| tjaalton | I don't know if it could be made to work | 15:11 |
| tjaalton | actually, I have such a machine here.. but I think it needs kernel work | 15:12 |
| tjaalton | or maybe not, should just try it out | 15:12 |
| tjaalton | right, the kernel doesn't list alps as a touchpad, just as a ps/2 mouse | 15:25 |
| tjaalton | and forcing synaptics doesn't work | 15:30 |
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