[14:18] hey guys [14:18] on my thinkpad x201 [14:18] the touchpad is not working on oneirick [14:22] seif: logfile please [14:23] not that.. [14:32] guys [14:32] ? [14:32] 16:22 < tjaalton> seif: logfile please [14:32] tjaalton, how do i get that [14:33] ? [14:33] apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log [14:33] and paste the link here [14:34] http://paste.ubuntu.com/637934/ [14:35] ok, so how is it "broken" [14:37] the touchpad is not responding [14:37] only the nipple thingie [14:37] :) [14:38] at least the driver loaded just fine [14:38] can you see the touchpad from the output of 'xinput list'? [14:40] yep its there [14:40] ⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)] [14:40] ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)] [14:40] ⎜ ↳ TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint id=13 [slave pointer (2)] [14:40] ⎜ ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad [14:41] um, it doesn't have an id= ? [14:41] ⎜ ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad id=11 [slave pointer (2)] [14:41] sorry [14:41] :) [14:41] it does [14:41] xinput list-props 11 |grep -i enabled ? [14:42] Device Enabled (132): 0 [14:43] there you go [14:43] something has disabled it [14:43] :( [14:43] how do i enable it [14:43] which desktop? [14:43] unity [14:43] maybe a gconf key disabled it? [14:43] maybe [14:44] launch the "mouse" app and try to enable it from there [14:44] you should see a tab about "touchpads" [14:46] i did [14:46] should i restart the session [14:46] ? [14:46] no [14:46] well its not working [14:46] can you put the full output of "xinput list-props 11" on pastebin, please? [14:47] xinput set-int-prop 11 "Device Enabled" 1 8 [14:47] xinput set-prop 11 'Device Enabled' 1 [14:47] :) [14:47] is the last bit still needed? [14:47] right, we have that now [14:47] I'm not sure [14:47] ah, set-prop [14:47] shorter [14:47] i wrote that code :) [14:47] invalid format [14:47] :) [14:48] seif: try what jcristau gave [14:48] yeah both did not work [14:48] but [14:48] 8 1 worked [14:48] wtf. [14:48] yet still no mouse [14:49] something is actively disabling it then? [14:49] anyway, user config issue :) [14:49] seif: and list-props still says it's 0? [14:50] http://pastebin.com/10hwUiJd [14:53] jcristau, ^ [14:53] it's still 0 [14:53] it's not supposed to work... [14:54] how can we make it work [14:55] turn off whatever's disabling it [14:55] and I think we can rule out gnome-settings-daemon if setting values manually doesn't change the value [14:55] seif@Wumbo:~/Projects/gnome-tweak-tool$ xinput set-int-prop 11 "Device Enabled" 1 8 [14:55] Invalid format 1 [14:55] unless you have a crazy daemon which sets things back to 0... [14:56] seif: format should be 8 [14:56] the value should be 1 [14:56] swap the numbers [14:56] i did [14:56] hmmmmmmm [14:56] something is disabling it [14:56] and what did you get with 1 8? [14:57] tseliot, nothing [14:57] apt-get install dconf-tools [14:57] seif: try this and see if it still happens: killall gnome-settings-daemon [14:57] then use the command again [14:57] and see if the touchpad remains enabled [14:57] open dconf-editor, then check /org/gnome/settings-daemon/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad-enabled [14:58] afdasf [14:58] fsa [14:58] f [14:58] a [14:59] ok now its working [15:00] speaking of trackpad, what could make one not being listed in xinput list? [15:00] it works [15:00] restarted session and it works like charm [15:01] what did you do? [15:01] what you todl me to [15:01] changed it from dconf-editor [15:01] and? [15:01] changed what? [15:01] that setting? [15:01] clicked the enabled thingie [15:01] also i killed the gnome-settings-daemon [15:04] seb128: if no input driver is loaded for it [15:04] tjaalton, said differently "why is my touchpad not listed there and how do I turn it off" ;-) [15:05] seb128: if xinput list doesn't show it, it means X doesn't know it exists [15:05] so it's "off" [15:06] but maybe you meant to turn it on [15:06] it's for sure no "off", I keep clicking on it by touching it with my palms [15:06] but then xinput surely has it? [15:06] pastebin xinput list and X log? [15:06] ⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)] [15:06] ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)] [15:06] ⎜ ↳ Logitech Optical USB Mouse id=10 [slave pointer (2)] [15:06] ⎜ ↳ ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint id=14 [slave pointer (2)] [15:07] ah, lovely alphs [15:07] alps [15:07] seb128: well, it's there... [15:07] isn't glidepoint the trackpad? [15:07] I've both a small round bit in the middle of the keyboard and a touchpad [15:07] I've an USB mouse as well [15:08] aiui there's no "disable while typing" for that, since it's using the evdev driver and not synaptics [15:08] hum [15:08] seb128: the round thing is trackpoint [15:08] aka the nipple :) [15:08] that's why it's not in the gnome-control-center tab I guess [15:08] ok [15:08] so I've a trackpoint and a touchpad [15:08] yes [15:08] and I want to turn the touchpad off [15:08] how do I do that? [15:08] but the trackpoint is not listed and doesn't work? [15:08] they both work [15:08] ok [15:08] I want to turn the touchpad off [15:09] just not on the list above, but ok [15:09] since I don't use it but keep palm clicking it [15:09] xinput set-prop 14 "Device Enabled" 0 [15:09] for the running session [15:09] then a config snippet in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ to disable it permanently [15:10] thanks [15:11] see man xorg.conf, Section "InputClass", and Option "Ignore" "boolean" [15:11] so the reason why it's not seen as a touchpad in GNOME is because it uses evdev? [15:11] right [15:11] that will work for me I guess but is not really user friendly :-( [15:11] I don't know if it could be made to work [15:12] actually, I have such a machine here.. but I think it needs kernel work [15:12] or maybe not, should just try it out [15:25] right, the kernel doesn't list alps as a touchpad, just as a ps/2 mouse [15:30] and forcing synaptics doesn't work === yofel_ is now known as yofel