[08:00]  * nuvolari tips hat
[08:00] <nuvolari> 'morning
[08:08] <superfly> cold morning
[08:09] <sakhi> morning nuvolari superfly and everyone.
[08:09] <sakhi> Maaz: forecast Cape Town
[08:09] <Maaz> sakhi: Sunday: Partly Cloudy. High: 14° C., Sunday Night: Mostly Cloudy. Low: 9° C., Monday: Chance of Rain. High: 15° C., Monday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 8° C., Tuesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 16° C., Tuesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 7° C., Wednesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 17° C., Wednesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 7° C., Thursday: Mostly Cloudy. High: 18° C., Thursday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 8° C., Friday: Partly Cloudy. H
[08:17] <Kilos> morning superfly and other cold peeps
[08:18] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[08:18]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[08:19] <superfly> morning oom Kilos
[08:21] <Kilos> Maaz, hurry
[08:21] <Maaz> Hey! Kilos Patience is a virtue, 
[08:21] <Kilos> sigh
[08:22] <Kilos> and virtue is a grace and grace was a naughty girl who didnt wash her face
[08:22] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[08:22] <Kilos> or her hands before messing up her keyboard
[08:22] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[08:22] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[08:23] <nuvolari> mornings sakhi, oom Kilos, superfly 
[08:23] <Kilos> lo nuvolari is it cold in durbs too
[08:27] <Squirm> morning
[08:27] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[08:28] <Squirm> how things going?
[08:28] <Kilos> well ty and you
[08:28] <Kilos> did you enjoy the uk bit
[08:28] <Squirm> yeah it's not too bad, being Monday and all
[08:28] <Squirm> Kilos: I loved it
[08:29] <Squirm> well, the last few months
[08:29] <Kilos> why you came back so quick
[08:29] <Kilos> you didnt even get used to the cold
[08:30] <Squirm> actually I left after the end of winter, so this is kind of winter no.3 for me
[08:30] <Squirm> but I ran out of money :/ couldnt find another job
[08:31] <Kilos> eish
[08:31] <Kilos> aw
[08:31] <Kilos> they normally happy with peeps that will do manual labour for them
[08:33] <Squirm> ah well
[08:33] <Squirm> now I'm stuck at home in the middle of nowhere
[08:33] <Squirm> but it's actually better than before I left
[08:33] <Kilos> and its too cold here to go swimming in the dam hey
[08:34] <Kilos> hiya scar[w] 
[08:34] <Kilos> i found the ZS6 guy again
[08:34] <Kilos> it be bmg
[08:35] <Squirm> I've just made more of a mission to be social
[08:35] <Kilos> aw i forgot to tab him
[08:35] <Kilos> lol why is it a mission Squirm 
[08:35] <Squirm> Real Life is an effort
[08:36] <Squirm> to try and get some people out, wow
[08:36] <Kilos> eish and you still got many years ahead
[08:36] <Squirm> my neighbour is so lazy
[08:36] <Kilos> lol
[08:36] <superfly> Squirm: sounds like you are too
[08:36] <Squirm> I went to primary school with him, he's been home like a month or 2 now and I havent seen him
[08:36] <Kilos> tv addicts?
[08:36] <Squirm> not for lack of trying
[08:37] <Squirm> superfly: I am :P But he's worse\
[08:37] <Squirm> much
[08:37] <Squirm> the effort lies in getting other people to be active
[08:39] <Kilos> what does he do Squirm 
[08:39] <kbmonkey> mornings
[08:39] <kbmonkey> Maaz, coffee please
[08:39] <Maaz> kbmonkey: There isn't a pot on
[08:39] <Kilos> apart from as little as possible
[08:39] <Kilos> lo kbmonkey 
[08:39] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[08:39]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:39] <kbmonkey> oh dear, Kilos did you finish the coffee? ;p
[08:39] <kbmonkey> Maaz, coffee on
[08:39] <Maaz> kbmonkey: There's already a pot on. If you ask nicely, maybe you can have a cup
[08:39] <Kilos> lol
[08:40] <Kilos> hehe
[08:40] <kbmonkey> Maaz, coffee please my favoritest of bots
[08:40] <Maaz> kbmonkey: *blink*
[08:40] <kbmonkey> Maaz, coffee please
[08:40] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Yessir
[08:40]  * kbmonkey thinks Maaz needs a course in Natural Language Processing ;p
[08:40] <Kilos> lol
[08:42] <kbmonkey> I hope you all are keeping warm
[08:42] <Kilos> im waiting for someone to help that johan on the lists
[08:43] <Kilos> dont all linux flavours as he calls them work with chown
[08:43] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and kbmonkey!
[08:43] <Kilos> or have i not read his question properly
[08:44] <Kilos> Maaz, dankie
[08:44] <Maaz> Groot plesier Kilos my vriend
[08:44] <kbmonkey> Maaz, dankie
[08:44] <Maaz> Groot plesier kbmonkey my vriend
[08:44] <kbmonkey> oh I totally missed that email Kilos, I'll have a look too
[08:45] <Kilos> i am using karmic and maverick and have no probs with permissions on my external
[08:46] <kbmonkey> your external is formatted with fat32/ntfs?
[08:46] <Kilos> shame and he asked yesterday already and no one has helped him
[08:47] <kbmonkey> oh I have seen this before
[08:47] <Kilos> ext is ext4
[08:47] <kbmonkey> il do some tests and see about a solution
[08:48] <Kilos> i have great fun when boet gets here with his I5 lappy  and he cant even see my external but i see everything on his
[08:48] <Kilos> he's a win7 man
[08:48] <Kilos> hehe
[08:51] <kbmonkey> hhe
[08:51] <kbmonkey> I compiled WINE the other day, took 20 minutes, and then sound did not work. eish ;p
[08:52] <Kilos> i tried wine with an old age of empires on karmic and it crashed my pc and have been scared since then
[08:53] <kbmonkey> I play half life 2 on wine no problems :) but since reformat no more games 
[08:53] <Kilos> but it would help pass the time if i could get it working
[08:53] <Kilos> lo sdehaan 
[08:53] <kbmonkey> oh this is just too good: kbmonkey@netbook:/media/disk$ touch this
[08:54] <kbmonkey> touch: cannot touch 'this'
[08:54] <Kilos> lol
[08:54] <kbmonkey> hammertime!
[08:54] <Kilos> yeah when in doubt use a hammer
[08:55] <Kilos> the larger the doubt the larger the hammer
[08:57] <Kilos> that johan sounds like he knows what he is doing too
[08:57] <kbmonkey> ;p
[08:58] <kbmonkey> hello sdehaan 
[08:58] <Kilos> so it will be interesting to see what the answer is
[08:59] <kbmonkey> I think I have one
[08:59] <kbmonkey> just booting another OS to test
[09:01] <scar[w]> good morning Kilos
[09:02] <Kilos> hi scar[w] 
[09:08] <Kilos> johan is sorted but i didnt get the mail that trold him how
[09:08] <Kilos> grrr
[09:08] <Kilos> told
[09:09] <kbmonkey> ah, well i'll post for the sake of completeness in the archives for future searches
[09:09] <kbmonkey> as I hate it when looking for answers and an old thread never has an answer ;p
[09:09] <Kilos> ya
[09:10] <kbmonkey> oh wait there is, eek too convoluted!
[09:18] <kbmonkey> I want a Tux hoodie
[09:18] <Kilos> hoodie?
[09:19] <kbmonkey> yes like a long sleeve jacket with a hoodie, for winter
[09:19] <kbmonkey> with Tux embroided on :)
[09:19] <Kilos> lol
[09:27] <Kilos> nice solution kbmonkey 
[09:28] <Kilos> whats the 777 for?
[09:30] <kbmonkey> 777 is the numerical value of saying "owner +rw, gourps +rw, and o+rw"
[09:30] <kbmonkey> so its basically allowing all permissions for all users :)
[09:31] <Kilos> ah its not something you gonna use everytime
[09:31] <Kilos> once only
[09:31] <kbmonkey> and that will also handle future users, or new installations, or other computers too ;)
[09:31] <Kilos> well done
[09:32] <Kilos> i got it saved in my sudo chown file
[09:32] <kbmonkey> it's the one thing I do remember from my Red Hat course I did in 2001 :p
[09:33] <Kilos> lol. i dont remember much . have to safe everything and try remember where i saved it
[09:33] <Kilos> hehe
[09:44] <kbmonkey> kung fu panda is awesome :D
[09:47] <Kilos> when you use wine to play a ms game do you have to reboot like with windows
[09:50] <kbmonkey> no you don't Kilos, it's more like you run the .exe through wine
[09:50] <kbmonkey> wine game.exe
[09:50] <Kilos> oh not gui
[09:50] <Kilos> from the command line
[09:51] <kbmonkey> when you install a game, it puts the game shortcut in your menu under WINE for you
[09:51] <Kilos> you dont have an icon you double click to play?
[09:51] <kbmonkey> or you can make your own shortcut.
[09:51] <bmg505> anybody here that knows how I can get ipcop not to accept udp 5060 packets at all, I am down with the flu and mtn bussiness is driving me around the bend
[09:51] <Kilos> lol. ok i gonna try.
[09:51] <bmg505> hello all
[09:52] <Kilos> hi bmg505 
[09:52] <kbmonkey> some games don't make a shortcut, that's when you do one yourself. but its easy, ask if you need help :)
[09:52] <Kilos> will do ty kbmonkey 
[09:52] <Kilos> bmg505, are you a ham
[09:52] <kbmonkey> I usually go to appdb.winehq.org kilos and look up the game in question and see if there's any special instructions to install
[09:53] <Kilos> oh my
[09:53] <bmg505> Kilos, feel more like off mince meat today, but yea I am
[09:53] <kbmonkey> sorry bmg505 don't know ipcop 
[09:54] <Kilos> ah i wondered the ZS6
[09:54] <bmg505> well its simple iptable, you cannot stop the packet from being delivered or so it looks like
[09:54] <bmg505> *iptables
[09:54] <bmg505> yea you can even spy me on aprs.fi put in zs6lmg-14 will see my car
[09:56] <bmg505> you should wonder about the lmg bit not the zs6 :)
[09:58] <Kilos> the ZS6 brought back memories from 40 years ago when i tried to learn morse
[09:58] <Kilos> then fell in love and forgot to carry on
[09:59] <Kilos> but still have a yaesu ft200 i think it is
[10:00] <kbmonkey> I never got a chance to play on a ham radio. but I did do some morse code as a kid for fun
[10:00] <Kilos> it would have been so much easier with maaz around
[10:01] <Kilos> -- .- .- --..   .. ...   .-   -.-. .-.. . ...- . .-.   -... --- -
[10:02] <kbmonkey> ha ha ha. he sure is :)
[10:02] <Kilos> lol
[10:33] <Kilos> kbmonkey,  i got wine1.2 in maverick. do you think thats good enough for the old age of empires 2
[10:33] <Kilos> i see there at the wine hq to register they ask what version of wine and there 8 later versions
[10:34] <Kilos> bhut that would be another 20m of downloads
[10:35] <kbmonkey> 1.2 should be fine Kilos - http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=99
[10:35] <kbmonkey> it got a gold rating :)
[10:36] <Kilos> ok i will register with that and see if i can find what they say about aoe2
[10:36] <Kilos> ty
[10:36] <kbmonkey> but as wine goes, its best to try.
[10:37] <kbmonkey> you dont have to register to look up info, you register to vote, and submit test reports
[10:37]  * Kilos thinks superfly happy you are here now he gets some rest from all my questions
[10:37] <kbmonkey> he he :)
[10:37] <Kilos> oh ok i go look for where to query
[10:38] <kbmonkey> see here http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=147&iTestingId=63102
[10:38] <Kilos> ok
[10:40] <kbmonkey> see the poster comments on what they did. usually disabling compiz and running in a window (ie no full screen) solves little issue
[10:40] <Kilos> ok will do ty
[10:48] <Kilos> i cant even get it to install
[10:48] <Kilos> grrrr
[10:49] <kbmonkey> awe :(
[10:49] <kbmonkey> its very hit and miss sometimes.
[10:49] <Kilos> the one guys says he installed from the cd
[10:50] <Kilos> mine just opens and plays the music
[10:50] <Kilos> hehe
[10:56] <kbmonkey> how did you open it?
[10:59] <Kilos> i just put the cd in
[10:59] <Kilos> but i tried right clicking the aoe icon but no choice to install
[11:00] <Kilos> tried the open with autorun prompt
[11:00] <Kilos> didnt work either
[11:00] <Kilos> said it cant find the autorun program
[11:02] <kbmonkey> try run the setup directly in a terminal
[11:02] <kbmonkey> wine /media/path-to-the-cd/setup.exe
[11:02] <Kilos> eish
[11:03] <Kilos> okpath to cd?
[11:04] <Kilos> would that be wine /media/cdrom0/setup.exe
[11:05] <kbmonkey> yes try that
[11:05] <kbmonkey> but it depends on what the cd is named, and what the setup file is named
[11:06] <kbmonkey> so you could use file explorer too, nautilus, if you click on the .exe or right-click and open it with wine
[11:06] <Kilos> how you find what the cd is named
[11:07] <kbmonkey> see the files on the CD with nautilus?
[11:08] <Kilos> i tried the windows program loader there but no good
[11:09] <kbmonkey> is that the same as a setup?
[11:10] <Kilos> the file is aoesetup.exe
[11:11] <Kilos> tells me its not an executable bit
[11:14] <kbmonkey> eh, that sounds strange
[11:14] <Kilos> lol
[11:14] <Kilos> you dunno murphy
[11:14] <Kilos> as jy kan sukkel , sal jy
[11:15] <kbmonkey> if I had aoe I could try :p
[11:15] <Kilos> if i member right on karmic long time ago when i put the cd in it asked if it must install/open with wine
[11:16] <Kilos> i keep trying
[11:16] <Kilos> to kbmonkey 
[11:16] <kbmonkey> well I dont know why the exe has to be executable as it runs through wine ;)
[11:17] <Kilos> lol
[11:17] <Kilos> it doesnt even ask to open with wine
[11:17] <kbmonkey> can you right-click the setup and open with... and select wine
[11:18] <kbmonkey> see a CDRom is read only and does not support executable bits by default,
[11:18] <Kilos> i try
[11:19] <kbmonkey> if you cant find wine in the list, expand the custom command box, and type in 'wine' and click okay :)
[11:20] <Kilos> looks like i got something
[11:20] <Kilos> inswtall q4wine from synaptic
[11:21] <kbmonkey> try that, never used q4wine myself
[11:21] <Kilos> went open with q4wine and had to next next lots and now it is open same as with windows
[11:21] <Kilos> will tick the insatall button now
[11:22] <Kilos> its installing
[11:22] <Kilos> whew
[11:22] <kbmonkey> good hope that goes well! gotta run to shops for now :] 
[11:22] <Kilos> ty very much
[11:23] <Kilos> go safe
[11:23] <kbmonkey> q4wine should let you launch the game then I guess
[11:33] <superfly> I got both Age of Empires working in WINE
[11:41] <kbmonkey> ah well let's see if kilos got his running too superfly 
[12:05] <Kilos> hiya Kerbero 
[12:09] <Kilos> bmg505, is the 6 for gauteng
[12:09] <Kilos> and 5 for natal
[12:39] <queery> i
[12:39] <queery> oops
[12:39] <Kilos> lol
[13:13] <Kilos> grrrr
[13:15] <Kilos> ms sucks even with a jug of wine
[14:19] <rodemire> Afternoon people.
[14:22] <rodemire> I had a hard drive with 3 OSs installed" Windows 7, XP and Ubuntu 10.10. I accessed XP through the Windows 7 boot loader. On some random day, i just couldnt access XP anymore, when i selected it, the machine would restart. And its been doing that since then, (about a month ago). 
[14:23] <rodemire> I tried "fixmbr" and "fixboot" to get it working but its not working. I then deleted the Windows 7 partition and tried again, but its still not being booted, and its not appearing in grub, when i "updayte-grub"
[14:23] <rodemire> How can i get my XP back?
[14:23] <kbmonkey> hi rodemire 
[14:24] <superfly> Ask the Windows IRC channel?
[14:24] <kbmonkey> lol
[14:24] <kbmonkey> thats nasty ;p
[14:24] <superfly> Well, most people in here use Ubuntu, not Windows, and that's because they don't want to use Windows
[14:24] <kbmonkey> if update-grub wont detect it, then your xp install is corrupt or broken
[14:24] <superfly> in fact, some people in here have not used Windows in years
[14:25] <kbmonkey> i stopped using windows last week. for good :)
[14:25] <kbmonkey> fixmbr is the windows equivalent of grub, rodemire. as such update-grub will just override whatever fixmbr did
[14:26] <superfly> There are plenty of places offering Windows support... It's no doubt easier to get Windows support than Linux support, so why ask the one place that *doesn't* deal with Windows?
[14:26] <Kilos> hi rodemire 
[14:26] <kbmonkey> 10.10 uses grub2 ?
[14:27] <Kilos> yip
[14:27] <Kilos> rodemire, you can try boot with xp cd and do a recovery
[14:30] <rodemire> Kilos: Thats what i tried last night, i use Ubuntu like 90% of the time but i still need a little bit of XP, and i remember from way back that u can fix it from Ubuntu, so my qtn kinda qualifies for this forum right?!
[14:31] <kbmonkey> you have a Ubuntu live CD rodemire ?
[14:31] <rodemire> Yep, i do.
[14:31] <kbmonkey> (or live usb)
[14:31] <rodemire> i have both. Live CD and live usb.
[14:31] <kbmonkey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling GRUB2
[14:32] <kbmonkey> if you can boot into the Ubuntu install, you could reinstall grub without a live CD rodemire 
[14:33] <kbmonkey> do you know how many drives your PC has rodemire ?
[14:34] <rodemire> If i reinstall it, will it pick up the XP or do i need to do something first?
[14:34] <rodemire> Hard drive = 4, the partitions are too many, dont remember. 
[14:34] <kbmonkey> eek. okay
[14:35] <Kilos> sudo update-grub should see them all
[14:35] <rodemire> i'll try reinstalling grub, thanks kbmonkey
[14:35] <kbmonkey> the grub reinstall will auto scan other OS's for you
[14:35] <Kilos> or was it sudo grub-update
[14:36] <kbmonkey> rodemire, boot into the Ubuntu
[14:36] <tumbleweed> dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc should re-install grub
[14:36] <rodemire> "sudo update-grub" doesnt pick up XP. 
[14:36] <rodemire> I'll show u screenshots when i get home.
[14:36] <Kilos> ah
[14:36] <kbmonkey> and you can run from a terminal: sudo grub-install /dev/sdX (where X is your drive where your Ubuntu disk)
[14:36] <Kilos> do what tumbleweed  says
[14:37] <kbmonkey> you can see which disk your / is mounted when you run "df"
[14:41] <Kilos> there is also #grub where the grub peeps are
[14:42] <tumbleweed> update-grub should pick up windows when you are booted from the ubuntu system. If you have chrooted in from a live CD, it may not
[14:42] <kbmonkey> didn't know there a #grub
[14:42] <Kilos> yeah i been there too
[14:43] <Kilos> had lotsa hassles at one time
[14:43] <Kilos> everyone said replace the drive
[14:43] <Kilos> and the fault was in the cpu cache
[14:44] <kbmonkey> that's very obscure place for boot issues!
[14:44] <Kilos> somehow xp had corrupted it
[14:44] <kbmonkey> oh, go figure
[14:44] <Kilos> took months but now it be kiff again for last few months
[14:44] <kbmonkey> no windows OS ever touched my current hardware :p
[14:45] <Kilos> thats good
[14:45] <Kilos> thats also why i am scared of wine
[14:45] <Kilos> game starts up in full screen mode then hangs
[14:46] <Kilos> and i cant get to another desktop to try what one of those guys at winehq said
[14:46] <kbmonkey> ctrl-alt-backspace?
[14:46] <tumbleweed> kbmonkey: that's been disabled for a while now
[14:47] <kbmonkey> oh, I usually enable that again
[14:47] <Kilos> how do you re enable it kbmonkey 
[14:47] <kbmonkey> ctrl+alt+f1 to tty and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ;)
[14:48]  * tumbleweed was only too happy to see it gone, it's easy to type bymistake when you are using ctrl-alt-arrow to change virtual desktop
[14:48] <kbmonkey> your backspace is next to your arrow keys tumbleweed? o.O 
[14:48] <Kilos> i went ctrl+alt+f1 and said shutdown
[14:48] <kbmonkey> you can also ctrl-alt-del from tty 
[14:49] <Kilos> kbmonkey, i need some way to tell aoe not to use full screen
[14:49] <tumbleweed> kbmonkey: I might have started typing before I rieleased ctrl-alt
[14:49] <|3o|3> /etc/init.d/gdm restart!? Thanks kbmonkey, I've always wanted a way to log off when my panels are broken for some or another reason
[14:49] <Kilos> something about cfg
[14:50] <tumbleweed> kbmonkey: a SAK will also kill X, so there is a keystroke to do it (if you have a sysrq key)
[14:50] <kbmonkey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#.22Raising_Elephants.22_mnemonic_device
[14:50] <kbmonkey> that's the one :)
[14:51] <kbmonkey> that will tell your pc to shut down and unmount disks and reboot properly if things get choppy
[15:07] <Kilos> i found that sysrq key  so its alt+sysrq+what other key?
[15:08] <kbmonkey> yes kilos :)
[15:09] <kbmonkey> the keys in that wiki link
[15:09] <Kilos> lol kbmonkey  what other key? anyone
[15:10] <Kilos> it just says another key
[15:10] <tumbleweed> Kilos: different keys do different things
[15:11] <kbmonkey> see that link kilos, there a sequence of keys, and each does its own thing. 
[15:11] <Kilos> i am reading it now
[15:12] <Kilos> oh is the list under action the keys one can use
[15:14] <Kilos> all i want to be able to do is open another desktop to then open wine notepad to stop aoe from hanging
[15:14] <kbmonkey> does alt+F2 pop up the run dialog Kilos ?
[15:14] <Kilos> but aoe fills the whole screen 
[15:15] <Kilos> i will try it but it not lekker when whole pc hangs
[15:15] <kbmonkey> also...
[15:15] <Kilos> makes me scared it gonna crash
[15:15] <kbmonkey> yes we must find out how to let it run in a window.
[15:15] <kbmonkey> i think  you run winecfg and in there set an option to run in a virtual desktop
[15:16] <Kilos> and it also removed my xchat icon from top panel even though locked and pidgin now opens inna tiny window
[15:16] <kbmonkey> it's under the 'graphics' tab
[15:16] <kbmonkey> check your screen resolution, it probably change your res
[15:16] <Kilos> in wine config kb?
[15:17] <kbmonkey> yes kilos. you run winecfg (wine config)
[15:17] <Kilos> ok i in graphics now
[15:17] <kbmonkey> i beleive if you turn on the virtual desktop, then it will only fill that window, not your whole screen
[15:17] <kbmonkey> so aoe will think its full screen, but its just being fooled to run in its own window
[15:18] <Kilos> ah lets hope
[15:19] <Kilos> must the "allow the window manager to control the windows be unticked
[15:20] <kbmonkey> mmm, leave that option as it is for now.
[15:20] <Kilos> ok
[15:20] <Kilos> hold thumbs
[15:20] <kbmonkey> *thumbs*
[15:20] <kbmonkey> oh oh
[15:21] <Kilos> lol
[15:21] <kbmonkey> if it gets stuck, you can always ctrl+alt+F1 to a tty, log in, and run "kilall wine" to just terminate wine, and ctrl+alt+f7(or8) back to X
[15:21] <Kilos> ok i write that down first
[15:21] <kbmonkey> *killall wine
[15:22] <kbmonkey> or killall wineserver
[15:36] <Kilos> yay kb
[15:37] <kbmonkey> does it run windowed?
[15:37] <Kilos> it playing inna small window. sound worked till it started game then niks and very slow and jerky. i go look how them fellas fixed it
[15:38] <Kilos> lol
[15:38] <Kilos> murphy back again
[15:38] <kbmonkey> just saw some folks had slowness issues with it :/ oops
[15:38] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[15:38]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[15:38] <kbmonkey> some games are just made like that i guess ;)
[15:38] <Kilos> at least now i can use the other desktops ty very much
[15:39] <kbmonkey> np :)
[15:42] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:42] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[15:42] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[16:31] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[16:31]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[16:32] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[16:32] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[16:32] <Kilos> hurry
[16:32] <Kilos> grr
[16:32] <Kilos> Maaz, hurry
[16:32] <Maaz> Hey! Kilos Patience is a virtue, 
[16:32]  * inetpro lol
[16:32] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[16:33] <inetpro> Kilos: heh, hoe gaan dit?
[16:33] <Kilos> goed dankie en self
[16:34] <inetpro> Kilos: good thanks, especially when you just reminded me to go home and have a life :-)
[16:34] <Kilos> lol
[16:35] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[16:36] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie
[16:36] <Maaz> Groot plesier inetpro my vriend
[16:36] <Kilos> Maaz, gracias
[16:36] <Maaz> Kilos: ¡de nada!
[16:36]  * inetpro wbb later
[16:37] <Kilos> ok
[16:37] <Kilos> go safe
[16:37] <Kilos> geen windgat op die bike nie
[16:37] <Kilos> dis te koud om nou te val en seer te kry
[16:38] <Kilos> looks like rodemire won
[16:39] <Kilos> we'll see him next time he has ubuntu probs
[16:39] <Kilos> hehe
[16:39] <Kilos> sorry windows probs he can blame on ubuntu
[16:45] <Kilos> Maaz, whats for supper
[16:45] <Maaz> Steak , egg and chips. And a free Coke
[16:48] <Kilos> Maaz, whats for supper
[16:48] <Maaz> A nice thick homemade  oxtail and vegetable soup for starters and then Spaghetti bolognese
[16:48] <Kilos> too cold for coke
[16:48] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[16:48]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[16:52] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[16:52] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[16:52] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[16:53]  * Kilos sits and sips all on my lonesome
[16:57] <Kilos> bbl
[16:58] <Kerbero> Symmetria: are you here?
[16:58] <Kerbero> the stellenboschers have a question about google which you might be able to answer
[17:14] <Vhata> why don't you just ask it?
[17:14] <Kerbero> i'm waiting for query and drubin to ask
[17:14] <Kerbero> *queery
[17:14] <queery> i don't know what to ask
[17:17] <Kerbero> why isn't barns on this channel?
[17:18] <queery> haha he is a Mac user ;-P
[17:19] <Vhata> so am I
[17:19] <drubin> Vhata: some one mentions mac and you say first word in years! :) we miss your rants 
[17:19] <Vhata> drubin: see 18:14
[17:20] <Vhata> (as in, I said something before somebody mentioned macs)
[17:21] <drubin> Vhata: I believe you and I saw it.
[17:21] <drubin> Vhata: also I was joking... 
[17:21] <Vhata> I know :P
[17:21]  * drubin is reminded of http://xkcd.com/386/
[17:22]  * Vhata is waiting to hear what the damn question is
[17:22] <drubin> HAHHA
[17:23] <marcog> Vhata: you'll never hear it, never ever
[17:23] <drubin> Vhata: we wont tell you
[17:26] <Vhata> hmph.
[18:21] <highvoltage> that ubuntu-za list can be quite funny sometimes :)
[18:22] <tumbleweed> the small icons post?
[18:22]  * tumbleweed skipped over it
[18:25] <highvoltage> yeah the screenshot contained a thunderbird screenshot. one of the email subjects is "Being stuck with a geek"
[18:25] <tumbleweed> lol
[18:25] <highvoltage> s/the screenshot/the email/g
[19:30] <Kilos> night all of you. sleep tight
[19:48] <inetpro> good evening
[19:48] <inetpro> drubin, Vhata: wb
[19:51] <kbmonkey> ell inetpro 
[19:52] <inetpro> kbmonkey: sup
[19:52] <inetpro> Maaz_: coffee on
[19:52]  * Maaz_ starts grinding coffee
[19:52] <kbmonkey> Maaz_, coffee please
[19:52] <Maaz_> kbmonkey: Done
[19:52] <inetpro> hmm... he has a tail
[19:52] <kbmonkey> hmm, his name has a tail
[19:53] <kbmonkey> must've been a netsplit
[19:53] <drubin> Maaz_: change nick to Maaz
[19:53] <Maaz> drubin: Changing nick to Maaz
[19:53] <kbmonkey> Maaz_, wag your tail
[19:53] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Huh?
[19:53] <kbmonkey> lol :)
[19:53] <drubin> inetpro: where did I go?
[19:53] <inetpro> drubin: you've been quiet
[19:54] <drubin> inetpro: busy ;/ I guess
[19:54] <kbmonkey> oh hello drubin
[19:54] <inetpro> drubin: you on g+ yet?
[19:56] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and kbmonkey!
[19:57] <kbmonkey> thank you Maaz 
[19:58] <inetpro> Maaz: thanks
[19:58] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure
[19:58] <kbmonkey> Maaz, thanks
[19:58] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Sure
[19:58] <inetpro> Maaz: rusks please
[19:58] <Maaz> Sorry inetpro I only have Romany Creams today
[19:59] <inetpro> eish, I don't like Romany Creams
[20:01] <inetpro> guess I shall get my own rusks
[22:04] <kbmonkey_> oh shit i meant xchat. xchat! where did that even come from? o.O