[00:00] <pfifo> followed*
[00:00] <solayagim> i checked on gconf but cannot find any key
[00:00] <DriversBroken> pfifo:  Actually, it's not the HDD... it's the stupid disk drive...
[00:00] <DriversBroken> the cd that is.
[00:00] <tonytraductor> if I can get access to the router I can do it...just don ' t know how to get int
[00:00] <Gaara_> Can someone tell me whether this will fix my Skype error?
[00:00] <Gaara_> http://superuser.com/questions/299029/webcam-error-on-skype-ubuntu
[00:00] <spacebug-> tonytraductor: we told you and you did not try
[00:00] <Gaara_> I really don't know.
[00:01] <wildbat> tonytraductor: listen what they have said ~ your issue is you are behind NAT ~ you have to setup port forwarding /DMZ to get pass it ~ just go to http://192.168.1.1 or  http://192.168.1.100 or  http://192.168.1.254  , which ever it works.
[00:01] <pfifo> tonytraductor, go here http://192.168.1.254 OR http://192.168.1
[00:01] <pfifo> http://192.168.1.1
[00:02] <Gaara_> Anyone? :3
[00:02] <Gaara_> :(
[00:03] <wildbat> Gaara_:  did you try the suggestion there ?
[00:03] <Gaara_> I'm not too sure, whether it will work.
[00:03] <dork> Gaara_: webcams working on linux are a thing of the last 5 years, it's going to come down to you researching it since the webcam is vendor unique, the positive side is there is most likely more people who have had this same problem
[00:03] <Gaara_> I'm about to try it :3
[00:03] <dork> Gaara_: start with a lspci and find out what kind of webcam it is so you can research it
[00:04] <Gaara_> It's a VX-1000
[00:04] <tonytraductor> opk, I' m into the router/mode, but it'
[00:04] <dork> good, you have half of the hard work complete, now go find a resolution for it
[00:04] <dork> tonytraductor: find port forwarding
[00:04] <tonytraductor> its very different from my linksys back home
[00:04] <tonytraductor> trying to find that
[00:04] <pfifo> Gaara_, worked on my box
[00:04] <Nobgul-bnc> Did you log in?
[00:04] <tonytraductor> yeah
[00:04] <pfifo> Gaara_, test it run `LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype`
[00:06] <DriversBroken> oh wow.  18 gigs copied in like 12 minutes
[00:06] <innergalaxy> I just upgraded to 11.04, and am having a problem with VirtualBox.  It reports that I am not in the vboxuser group.  I have verified that I am - however, when using either the 'groups' or 'id' command by itself, it shows I'm not in the group - but, when I use those commands with my name, it shows I am in that group.  Also 'whoami' shows I am logged in under my name.  I'm not sure what to do at this point.
[00:06] <pfifo> Gaara_, call me @ pfifo_fast we can test each others cams
[00:07] <vlt> innergalaxy: You sometimes have to relogin to apply group changes.
[00:07] <jieryn> greetings :) i am wanting to have nearly all windows maximized by default .. how can i achieve this? using pretty much stock ubuntu 11.04
[00:07] <dork> innergalaxy: it probably is a group permission issue
[00:07] <innergalaxy> vlt: I have rebooted completely, as well as removing myself from the group and re-adding.  Nothing has had an effect.
[00:07] <dork> innergalaxy: hang on installing virtualbox really quick
[00:08] <Gaara_> It works ::::::333333
[00:08] <Gaara_> <3 omg
[00:08] <vlt> DriversBroken: Using ddrescue?
[00:08] <Gaara_> so that command line
[00:08] <Gaara_> how can i save that as a script?
[00:08] <DriversBroken> vlt:  No, gparted.  GUIs are going to rule the world.
[00:08] <Gaara_> 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype'
[00:08] <pfifo> Gaara_, just like it says on that page
[00:08] <spacebug-> innergalaxy: typing 'id' as the user, does it show? not 'id username'
[00:08] <guvnor> command line FTW
[00:09] <dork> Gaara_: it's an environmental veriable, but you can make a quick bash script if you like
[00:09] <tonytraductor> ok, now this is weird....its not giving me portforwarding, perse, but gives me access to an interface to allow certain " applications"  through (including ssh).
[00:09] <wildbat> Gaara_:  the page your find told you already ;p
[00:09] <th0r> Gaara_: just so you know, that did just fix my skype/webcam
[00:09] <Gaara_> Orly :c
[00:09] <pfifo> Gaara_, it fixed mine too
[00:09] <spacebug-> tonytraductor: can you see something about DMZ ?
[00:09] <Gaara_> Yay
[00:09] <dork> tonytraductor: look for something called DMZ
[00:09] <innergalaxy> spacebug:  using 'id' does not show the vboxuser group, however, 'id <username>' does show the group.  'whoami' shows the same exact username as <username>.
[00:09] <dork> tonytraductor: either DMZ or NAT
[00:09] <tonytraductor> I must choose which computer inside the network to assign it to (not port interface, just choose which mahine).  It gives me 192.168.1.64and 192.,168.1.66,  the internal IP on the only machine here, this one, is 192.168.1.67
[00:10] <tonytraductor> bnut, lemme see if I can get in now.
[00:10] <Gaara_> Ok..
[00:10] <dork> tonytraductor: give your mom's machine a static local ip first
[00:10] <spacebug-> innergalaxy: it seems that you need to reboot/logout but you said you had already done that?
[00:10] <Gaara_> Somehow I closed skype, the proccess is still running lol
[00:10] <dork> like 192.168.1.10
[00:10] <Gaara_> how do i bring skype up without starting a new process, i did this twice now lol
[00:10] <innergalaxy> spacebug-: yes, I have rebooted a couple of times at this point.
[00:11] <spacebug-> innergalaxy: strange
[00:11] <dork> Gaara_: should be in the toolbar up in the top right
[00:11] <JokesOnYou77> hi all
[00:12] <innergalaxy> spacebug-: lol, very.
[00:12] <tonytraductor> I' ve got something about NAT
[00:12] <dork> tonytraductor: see anything about dmz? or port forwarding?
[00:12] <tonytraductor> oh, the weirde IP address was just where I was opening the firewall
[00:12] <dork> tonytraductor: you need to change your mom's box to use a static local ip and not dhcp
[00:12] <Gaara_> How do i make terminal scripts :3
[00:13] <Gaara_> Save the codes in a textpad, but what extension?
[00:13] <spacebug-> Gaara_: extension is not neccesary
[00:13] <dork> Gaara_: vim/nano filename, type in the commands, save it, chmod +x filename
[00:13] <guvnor> dork, please refrain from making comments about his mom's box, thank you
[00:13] <dork> Gaara_: then execute them with ./filename
[00:14] <tonytraductor> the firewall has its own IP address?
[00:14] <dork> guvnor: my apologies, her box is so delicious
[00:14] <dork> tonytraductor: no
[00:14] <dork> tonytraductor: dude screenshot what you're looking at, your router doesn't have a firewall, it is simply a router and is a firewall in nature
[00:14] <tonytraductor> this is so much easier on my home network with my linksys router
[00:14] <tonytraductor> this is some BS att webinterface thingy
[00:15] <guvnor> what's wrong with iptables?
[00:15] <dork> tonytraductor: it kept you out of ssh so apparently it isn't that much bullshit
[00:15] <tonytraductor> like, this applies http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080525115025AABbdaQ
[00:15] <dork> guvnor: he's complaining about having to set up a nat for ssh, has nothing to do with firewalls or acl's
[00:15] <Gaara_> I just saved it in a file
[00:16] <Gaara_> and then right click > properties > run as application
[00:16] <Gaara_> Works Fine :)
[00:16] <tdignan> guvnor: noobs can't comprehend it :)
[00:16] <guvnor> ah
[00:16] <dork> netfilter isn't that profound
[00:16] <guvnor> you needed to give him a little education
[00:16] <tonytraductor> this interface says NOTHING about port forwarding.  My linksys has PORT FORWARDING, which makes sense...this thing is completely idiotic.
[00:16] <guvnor> lol
[00:16] <spacebug-> tonytraductor: do you see anything about DMZ then?
[00:17] <tonytraductor> yes
[00:17] <spacebug-> ok good
[00:17] <wildbat> tonytradustor Application services?
[00:17] <spacebug-> if you assing DMZ to the computer with the ssh-server, it will work
[00:17] <dork> tonytraductor: you need to either look for something called NAT, port forwarding, or DMZ, they are all the same, forward data from the wan interface to either port 22 on the local ip or DMZ it which is a 1:1 nat which will forward all data to the wan interface to your mom's ubuntu box
[00:17] <spacebug-> that makes all connections to the modem/router go to that computer you assigned it to
[00:17] <tonytraductor> there is a place to p" open the firewall"  to allow " applications"  through (ssh is listed in " application" , and it says "Choose the computer that will host applications through the firewall:"  lists 2 ip addresses, ne\ither of which is this machine
[00:18] <dork> tonytraductor: and if you don't give your mom's computer a static local ip address your work will be frivolous
[00:18] <dork> tonytraductor: screenshots or we can't help you
[00:18] <tonytraductor> something about Public Proxied Subnet (NAT/Routed)
[00:18] <guvnor> that's it
[00:18] <zelo> where are global kde config files? i mean when you create new user and login with kde it creates them but where it takes them from?
[00:19] <dork> i forgot how shitty 2wired routers were
[00:20] <guvnor> I tried to help someone whose port forwarding was called "PinHole" on their router
[00:20] <guvnor> there should be standards ...
[00:20] <spacebug-> zelo: might have more luck in #kubuntu (though people here might know also of course)
[00:20] <zelo> spacebug- thanks i asked there too
[00:20] <dork> i personally hate the acronym DMZ since it's convoluting to anyone who actually works with real DMZ's
[00:20] <spacebug-> zelo: ok
[00:20] <dork> i guess dmz is easier than 1:1 nat
[00:20] <tonytraductor> screenshot http://baldwinsoftware.com/attcrap1.jpg
[00:21] <guvnor> dork, screened subnet is a more proper term
[00:21] <dork> guvnor: nat > *
[00:21] <guvnor> well, what most people refer to as a DMZ is a screened subnet
[00:21] <guvnor> NAT is unholy and kinda sick
[00:21] <dork> wow what a retarded interface
[00:21] <guvnor> but necessary in a ipV4 world
[00:22] <dork> tonytraductor: see anything about remote management? i've lost interest and would rather just do it for you
[00:22] <guvnor> tonytraductor, let him into your router
[00:22] <guvnor> I trust him
[00:22] <guvnor> tonytraductor, just tell us the exact model
[00:23] <guvnor> I'll be your google proxy
[00:23] <tonytraductor> is there a way to do this by ssh into the router and edit config instead of using that absolutely inane pedantic moronic webpage interaface?
[00:23] <dork> ah yes ubuntu, holding hands since 2003
[00:23] <tonytraductor> there' s nothing important on this machine. it[' s just my moms
[00:23] <guvnor> tonytraductor, tell us the model
[00:23] <dork> tonytraductor: yes via remote management, look for remote management optionss, not through ssh or telnet, but through web
[00:23] <dork> or tell us the model
[00:24] <tonytraductor> I see nothing about remote management
[00:24] <guvnor> or not
[00:24] <dork> lol
[00:24] <wildbat> so teamviewer then ;p
[00:24] <dork> no kidding
[00:25] <dork> but that wouldn't work because he can't forward ports
[00:25] <dork> haha
[00:25] <tonytraductor> did you look at the screenshot I posted?
[00:25] <guvnor> why the secrecy about the model of router?
[00:25] <dork> tonytraductor: i did, 2wire's interface is stupid and non intuitive, what is the model of the modem/router
[00:25] <guvnor> all your problems would be solved in a google
[00:25] <tonytraductor> I can' t figure out the manufacturer. says Empire on the bottom, if I touch the piece of crap, the connection dies...
[00:25] <dork> look on the belly of the router
[00:25] <guvnor> lol
[00:26] <tonytraductor> if I touch it, I will lose connection
[00:26] <dork> it's a risk you have to take sir
[00:26] <wildbat> dork , teamviewer have STUN ~ it works with NAT ~ , what i ve read
[00:26] <dork> ah yeah and the socket is outbound
[00:26] <tonytraductor> gateway 2701HG-b?
[00:26] <dork> so forwarding would be irrelevant
[00:26] <den> Hi - I got Ubuntu "trial" version running fine on my Toshiba Satellite 1105 with NetGear WG511 wireless pc card, now how do I get it to see the pc card and go online?
[00:28] <b0nghitter> how do i clean up after ctrl+c during the download part of apt-get install?
[00:28] <dork> go to firewall/management
[00:28] <dork> enable remote management
[00:28] <dork> message me the credentials
[00:28] <guvnor> wow. That router looks ... funky
[00:28] <guvnor> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/2wire/2701HG-B/Limewire.htm
[00:28] <Xirre> So I am trying to start a server but I need help. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1796297
[00:28] <dork> yeah i'm familiar with 2wire routers they're more aesthetically pleasing than functional
[00:29] <th0r> dork: I have used several 2wire modems in the past, and found them relatively easy to figure out. Course, I wasn't spending so much time complaining about them
[00:30] <guvnor> I thought everyone who was anyone used Linksys WRT54Gs
[00:30] <dork> th0r: easy is relative
[00:30] <dork> i work with cisco and routeros mostly but having someone navigate who isn't qualified over irc is a different story
[00:30] <th0r> dork: it is usually directly related to how willing you are to learn something new
[00:31] <dork> th0r: agreed
[00:31] <wildbat> den in the top right hand corner should have some network like / wifi like icon right?
[00:31] <dork> th0r: remember this is #ubuntu not #gentoo
[00:31] <th0r> dork: that explains the lack of knowledge, not the attitude
[00:31] <dork> haha
[00:32] <ian___> Anyone know how to get twin to install in Natty?
[00:32] <Xirre> So I am trying to start a server but I need help. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1796297
[00:32] <den> wildbat, yeah, I was messing with that but didn't know what info to input (don't have that computer on right new)
[00:32] <Zzzzz> hi rooms
[00:32] <Zzzzz> hi room
[00:32] <dork> Zzzzz: hi chatter
[00:33] <b0nghitter> the PPA repo seems to not be available? trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX on ubuntu server 11.04
[00:33] <Xirre> Can anybody help?
[00:33] <tonytraductor> yes 2wire interface IS stupid and non-intuitive.  makes no sense whatever
[00:33] <Zzzzz> i want manually edit to /etc/shadow for changing password of root and any other user, how can i do this ?
[00:33] <tonytraductor> nothing about remote mgmt either.
[00:33] <guvnor> tonytraductor, you want on PC to have inbound traffic routed to it? Is that what you are going for?
[00:33] <guvnor> s/on/one
[00:33] <spacebug-> tonytraductor: is it the same interface as in the page guvnor gave you?
[00:33] <wildbat> den, you should see AP  in the list , just click it and ~ input PSK if any  that's all
[00:33] <guvnor> because it looks pretty simple
[00:33] <tonytraductor> yes, I want to be able to ssh IN to this machine (sshd running, comp listening on port 22, modem/router not forwarding )
[00:34] <tonytraductor> what page
[00:34] <Zzzzz> can i create that hash value and edit to shadow file?
[00:34] <guvnor> tonytraductor,  http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/2wire/2701HG-B/Limewire.htm
[00:34] <spacebug-> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/2wire/2701HG-B/Limewire.htm
[00:34] <Zzzzz> dork: thanks for reply..
[00:34] <den> wildbat, psk?
[00:34] <spacebug-> it explains it all
[00:34] <guvnor> if you can't figure it out from that page, I don't think anyone here could explain it to you
[00:35] <tonytraductor> it is very similar yes, to that page, this IS SBC./ATT
[00:35] <wildbat> den, the password Key ~ used to access the wifi network
[00:35] <Zzzzz> can i use any tool for making md5 hash or whatevery shadow file use i am on ubuntu 10.10 so
[00:35] <ian___> d
[00:35] <pfifo> Zzzzz, yes
[00:35] <guvnor> Zzzzz, md5sum
[00:35] <den> wildbat, ok, thanks
[00:36] <Zzzzz> guvnor: md5sum is equal to that shadow file hash value ? so its means # md5sum newpassword
[00:36] <Zzzzz> thast it ?
[00:36] <tonytraductor> when I get to the edit firewall setting, to choose a computer to forward an " application"  THIS machine is not listed. it listed 192.168.1.64 and 192.168.1.66, the IP on this machine (per ifconfig) is 192.168.1.67
[00:36] <pfifo> Zzzzz, no
[00:36] <Zzzzz> pfifo: md5sum ?
[00:36] <tonytraductor> so that confuses me
[00:36] <guvnor> Zzzzz, hmm I think I misunderstood what you were asking
[00:37] <pfifo> Zzzzz, /etc/shadow uses DES, specifically the crypt() function
[00:37] <dork> tonytraductor: you should be able to manually specify it
[00:37] <Zzzzz> shadow file, i hav one shadow file of another server, i want to just replace its encrypted passwords so want to know that which tool i can use for creating that hash or encrypted values ?
[00:37] <guvnor> yes, I did misunderstand. Well, you did
[00:37] <dork> tonytraductor: don't worry about the computers listed, find the area that allows you to manually specify the information
[00:37] <tonytraductor> no, it offers me two options in a pulldown menu, not entry where I can manually set it
[00:37] <Zzzzz> pfifo: then what should i do ?
[00:38] <pfifo> Zzzzz, I would write my own program that uses crypt()... I dont know a ready made tool for this, possibly 'passwd'
[00:38] <dork> tonytraductor: did you find remote management? it's under firewall apparently
[00:38] <kellnola> ok, damn the dist upgrade to natty was awful
[00:38] <kellnola> had to re-do with the cd
[00:38] <dork> kellnola: from maverick?
[00:38] <teddyroosebelt> hey - where are config files for apps usually stored? like i want to keep compiz settings/profiles but im not sure where they are stored
[00:39] <tonytraductor> IO'm not find either, where I can manually enter informatino, or anything about remote management
[00:39] <ugly_duck> why does upowerd continually keep using up my cpu
[00:39] <kellnola> dork, yeah. been dist upgrading for a while now
[00:39] <ugly_duck> and iphone info set
[00:39] <dork> kellnola: odd never had an issue, but yeah natty sucks.
[00:39] <guvnor> doesn't htpasswd produce DES hashes?
[00:39] <Zzzzz> pfifo: if i will go in another ubuntu 10.10 and then type passwd username and then go in that diff shadow file and then copy it and paste in that another shadow file will it work ?
[00:39] <guvnor> I'm pretty sure it does
[00:39] <ugly_duck> yay, natty sucks, and its what i'm using
[00:39] <kellnola> natty's ok I guess, about the same, just newer
[00:39] <pfifo> Zzzzz, i dont know
[00:39] <DIL> what are the other 2 ips to
[00:39] <tonytraductor> oh, I DID find where I can manually set something. going to open ports 22 thru 25 for ssh
[00:39] <tonytraductor> or 22 to 22
[00:40] <kellnola> I've never seen a dist-upgrade go so badly before
[00:40] <guvnor> tonytraductor, i salute you, sir
[00:40] <dork> tonytraductor: yes, 22-22
[00:40] <spacebug-> wait you wanted 443, didnt you?
[00:40] <Zzzzz> pfifo: did you make your own tool for this task ? making encrypted ?
[00:40] <pfifo> Zzzzz, what is the real goal here? normally you use passwd to set passwords, why dosent this work for you?
[00:40] <KM0201> kellnola: really? you're lucky
[00:40] <dork> tonytraductor: change your sshd_Config back to 22 from 443
[00:40] <Xirre> >.>
[00:40] <Xirre> Hello.
[00:40] <guvnor> pfifo, sounds like he's trying to replace a password
[00:41] <dork> tonytraductor: if you dont set a static local ip on your mom's machine before you do this, you're kind of a tard
[00:41] <kellnola> KM0201, i dist upgraded from the first ubuntu all the way to lucid
[00:41] <kellnola> no problems
[00:41] <pfifo> guvnor, passwd replaces your old password
[00:41] <guvnor> Zzzzz, often you use a tool like htpasswd or crypt
[00:41] <KM0201> kellnola: like i said, you're very lucky
[00:41] <dork> tonytraductor: when your mom's dhcp lease is expired if there is another machine pulling dhcp it will not work
[00:41] <guvnor> pfifo, I know, but can you figure out what it is he's doing?
[00:41] <guvnor> or trying to do
[00:41] <kellnola> KM0201,  maybe so
[00:41] <KM0201> kellnola: a couple bricked upgrades, is why i just don't upgrade anymore, and only do clean installs
[00:42] <lost_soul> Evening everyone, kind of a strange question.  Anyone have any idea why a secondary network card (hardwire) would stop showing up.  I put a second nic card in the other day and configured it.  When I was done for the evening I turned the machine off and ever since then the network card doesn't show using either dmesg or lspci.  Thinking possibly (but unlikely) it was an issue witht the card I replaced it and even the replacement card 
[00:42] <dork> dist-upgrades aren't taboo
[00:42] <kellnola> still using gnome classic and thinking about KDE for the first time in ages
[00:42] <lost_soul> sorry for the length of question, trying to give as much info as I have.
[00:42] <b0nghitter> i wish there were PPA repos for 11.04 :[
[00:42] <pfifo> guvnor, yes he wants to manually change a passwd, but if you can edit /etc/shadow, then you can simple run passwd as root so, the queestion becomes why?
[00:42] <dork> unless it's some fucked up platform like powerpc but i don't think you can upgrade beyond maverick on the non common plats
[00:42] <guvnor> lost_soul, no dmesg means it isn't being detected. Do you have a live distro around?
[00:43] <spacebug-> lost_soul: A module (driver) for the nic that is not loaded at boot time?
[00:43] <guvnor> pfifo, exactly
[00:43] <kellnola> KM0201, clean installs are the best way anyway, I missed a lot of new things by dist-upgrading
[00:43] <dork> kellnola: i disagree
[00:43] <tonytraductor> but there is only one machine connected to this modem...thsi is the part thats give me a problem nopw
[00:43] <spacebug-> oh not even showing with lspci
[00:43] <tonytraductor> now
[00:43] <kellnola> with lucid I was like "upstart?" wtf is that?
[00:43] <lost_soul> guvnor: somewhere I have one yes.
[00:43] <KM0201> kellnola: why are you thinking about KDE?(i find it hideous)
[00:43] <guvnor> lost_soul, see if that detects it
[00:43] <tonytraductor> I set up another " application"  to look on ports 21 to 23, but it still wants me to tell the router which machine, and it lists two, and neither of them are thjis one
[00:44] <tonytraductor> this thing is all kinds of stupid
[00:44] <ugly_duck> any fix for upowerd using cpu?
[00:44] <kellnola> KM0201, because of unity, I don't care for it and gnome 2 is about end of lifed
[00:44] <lost_soul> spacebug-: yea, not showing anywhere now..  But it did detect it fine first day, never experienced this before.
[00:44] <guvnor> lost_soul, at least that way you help eliminate it being an OS/software problem
[00:44] <dork> tonytraductor: dude, you have to give your mom's machine a NON CHANGING IP ADDRESS
[00:44] <DIL> then what is it connecte to
[00:44] <KM0201> kellnola: check out "Lubuntu".. :)
[00:44] <lost_soul> guvnor: ok, will find my disc..  afk for a short
[00:44] <dork> tonytraductor: you are making this way more difficult than it should be
[00:44] <Kuwanger> Is there a way to extract the meta data (file permissions, dates, times, and the file order) of a tar and later use it to construct an identical tar later with the same files?
[00:44] <tonytraductor> it' s not me, it' s the modem
[00:44] <kellnola> I'll go back to window maker if need be :)
[00:44] <guvnor> dork, lol. Learn him up on some dhcp leases
[00:45] <tonytraductor> the modem lists 2 computer IPs, neither of which is this one.
[00:45] <kellnola> but I do like a proper desktop
[00:45] <tonytraductor> it won' t let me assign this machine either or those IP address.
[00:45] <DIL> what is this one connected to then
[00:45] <vlt> Kuwanger: Yes.
[00:45] <usr13> tonytraductor: Modem?
[00:45] <guvnor> tonytraductor, no, it shouldn't either.
[00:45] <Kuwanger> vlt: How?
[00:45] <vlt> Kuwanger: tar -t lists files.
[00:46] <JokesOnYou77> Does anyone here have any experience with building an x86 router?  Or using an old computer as a router?
[00:46] <lost_soul> JokesOnYou77: I use one
[00:46] <Nobgul-bnc> JokesOnYou77, Yes i use one.
[00:46] <mrryanjohnston> JokesOnYou77: you'll need to start by looking at iptables
[00:46] <ugly_duck> i guess i'm invisible
[00:46] <guvnor> JokesOnYou77, probably most people that have used linux for a while
[00:46] <tonytraductor> how do I assign this machine a static IP?
[00:46] <sktn07> would anyone tell me:what is fedora pastebin?
[00:46] <pfifo> sktn07, fpaste.org
[00:46] <Logan_> sktn07: http://fpaste.org/
[00:47] <guvnor> JokesOnYou77, and mrryanjohnston was right. Start at iptables
[00:47] <lost_soul> tonytraductor: /etc/network/interfaces file
[00:47] <vlt> Kuwanger: -T reads a list of files to archive later.
[00:47] <sktn07> Logan_ , how to use it?
[00:47] <Logan_> sktn07: This is a Ubuntu help channel.  Is your question related to Ubuntu?
[00:47] <tonytraductor> I never had to do  this on my home network.  I just opened port 22, etc. told it to allow ssh to 192.168.1.101 and http to 192.168.1.101, ftp to 192.168.1.101, I can ssh to my main box, and ftp to my server, etc.
[00:47] <usr13> JokesOnYou77: I use one too.
[00:47] <Kuwanger> vlt: That doesn't seem to cover the permissions/time issue, though.
[00:48] <dork> JokesOnYou77: yes
[00:48] <dork> JokesOnYou77: every day
[00:48] <sktn07> Logan_, is there anything like that?
[00:48] <vlt> Kuwanger: What does "cover" mean? How should tar treat files where permissions have changed?
[00:48] <tonytraductor> /etc/network/interfaces just has auto lo iface lo intet loopback
[00:48] <Logan_> !details | sktn07
[00:48] <CarbonChauvinist> i need help installing grub2; note NOT *reinstalling* grub2, just actually installing it
[00:49] <tonytraductor> what does that have to do with the modem/router assigning it an IP address?
[00:49] <tonytraductor> or using dhcp
[00:49] <CarbonChauvinist> i installed win7 and hosed my MBR, now can't access my linux partitions without livedisk
[00:49] <Zzzzz> pfifo and guvnor: yes it work if we create user in another ubuntu and then just copy/paste its encrypted pass into another shadow file then it works as well..
[00:49] <guvnor> tonytraductor, strangely that is how your computer and the router communicate - through those IP addresses
[00:49] <vlt> CarbonChauvinist: Run grub-install from a live cd
[00:49] <mrryanjohnston> When attempting to install virtualbox guest additions in 11.04, is there any reason why the resolution won't take my native res? The additional Drivers thing shows that the vbox module is activated
[00:50] <Kuwanger> vlt: Ideally, it should ignore the file's permission/ownership/time and use the permission/ownership/time listed elsewhere or there should be a mechanism to change the permission/ownership/time of an extant tar.
[00:50] <CarbonChauvinist> vlt: problem is, the linux install i had previously did not have grub2, and is a different distro
[00:50] <guvnor> tonytraductor, either the router gives the PC an address (dhcp) or you create a static address on the PC and the router accepts that
[00:50] <dawn> no is brasil
[00:50] <soscrewed> i made a pretty bonehead misstake, i was blindly following some instructions on how to install gentoo when i realized i formated the wrong device per its instructions, i formated 4 years worth of books and all sorts of work on a 1 TB.. i am reading about photorec and some other thing, some taskdisk or whatever it's called.. does anyone have any experience with retrieving info from a formated external usb drive
[00:50] <tonytraductor> I did find something about remote management, finally, and it' s turned on
[00:50] <CarbonChauvinist> vlt: still just run grub-install, even with those caveats?
[00:50] <dawn> hi
[00:51] <Gryllida> !br | dawn
[00:51] <soscrewed> i apologize for what may not be ubuntu related information but i'm desperate
[00:51] <tonytraductor> oh, okay. the thing is, the router assigned it one, and it sees that, it is the nly IP address in the devices list but when I tell it to open for certain applications, it doesn' t list it, it lists 2 others .64 and .66, no 192.168.1.67
[00:51] <billy2007> hi if i use wine to run a program for my i-phone will it detect it
[00:51] <ugly_duck> !upowerd
[00:51] <tonytraductor> so it makes no sense
[00:51] <ugly_duck> !natty
[00:51] <guvnor> soscrewed, just don't use the disk
[00:51] <pfifo> Zzzzz, you still havent explained why your doing it manually, theres an easier way for sure
[00:52] <guvnor> soscrewed, and you should be able to get back all the data
[00:52] <neohashi> hello.. I need to recompress a few hundred jpeg's. how would I do this from CLI? I tired: convert -quality 90% *.jpg *.jpg .. but this outputs new files (and too many) I want to overwrite.
[00:52] <dawn> how
[00:52] <soscrewed> guvnor: can you message me
[00:52] <sktn07> Logan_, how can i work with Ubuntu Pastebin ?
[00:52] <alex__> what is a good video converter for ubuntu?
[00:52] <Muelli> neohashi: for file in *.jpg; do echo $file;done. But read on bash scripting fist
[00:52] <tonytraductor> one one page of this router interface, it recognizes that there is only one machine connected to it, at 192.168.1.67, but when it comes to opening ports to allow applications access, it gives me two options for devices to point them to, and neither are this machine
[00:52] <Kuwanger> neohashi: mkdir 90percent; for f in *.jpg; do convert -quality 90% "$f" "90percent/$f"; done
[00:52] <usr13> tonytraductor: Does this machine have more than one NIC?
[00:52] <guvnor> soscrewed, really sorry, I have to go to work. Someone here can help you
[00:52] <alex__> i want to convert .avi files into .mp4 files.
[00:52] <dee27> alex:
[00:52] <Logan_> !pastebin | sktn07
[00:52] <dee27> handbrake
[00:52] <guvnor> soscrewed, just don't use the disk at all
[00:52] <Muelli> !best | alex__
[00:52] <dee27> or transmageddon
[00:52] <pfifo> alex__, ffmpeg
[00:52] <tonytraductor> no
[00:52] <Muelli> alex__: you could give transmageddona  try
[00:53] <b0nghitter> alex__: vlc maybe
[00:53] <dawn> hi
[00:53] <alex__> handbrake wont work for my certain video dee27
[00:53] <DIL> so your moms machine is not connect to the router
[00:53] <alex__> vlc?
[00:53] <lost_soul> guvnor: unfortunately I didn't have an ubuntu live disc that is easy to test with.  Using a pclos live disc however both interfaces show up fine.  Reason I say it isn't easy to test with a ubuntu live disc is that system actually has xbmc live which is based on ubuntu 10.04 LTS, it isn't friendly for being able to test things quickly like that.
[00:53] <JokesOnYou77> IPtables?  I'm acutally wondering if I could just pick up DD-WRT for x86 or one of the other internet gateway distros from distro watch and put it on my old Pentium 4 machine to speed up my LAN transfer speed and decrease latency
[00:53] <tonytraductor> yes, the machine is connected to the router
[00:53] <dee27> than try transmageddon
[00:53] <neohashi> nice.. thanks Kuwanger
[00:53] <alex__> where can i get transmageddon?
[00:53] <dee27> avidemux
[00:54] <usr13> tonytraductor: What is it you are trying to do exactly?
[00:54] <vlt> Kuwanger: Sounds like some scripting is needed.  "tar -tv" lists owner, permissions and mtime (just minutes, hmmm).
[00:54] <Muelli> alex__: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=transmageddon
[00:54] <Zzzzz> pfifo: i had two ubuntu 10.10 , which roots and normal user's password were forgotten, now i cant recover pass fro startup recovery mode, if lilo were installed still it was getting any key, i had ony kvm, i had run ubunt live cd and then create user with pass and went in shadow file of that live cd os and then paste in my geniune server's shadow file and paste it there and on reboot it start working
[00:54] <DIL> what are the 2 devices that is being seen
[00:54] <DIL> are
[00:54] <Kuwanger> vlt: Yes, and I don't know if that's creation, modification, or access time and how much precision is stored.
[00:55] <pfifo> Zzzzz, boot a livecd and then mount the root filesystem, then chroot into the filesystem and run passwd
[00:55] <alex__> should i use VLC instead?
[00:55] <alex__> if so do i just google VLC?
[00:55] <Kuwanger> vlt: If only I could just take an extant tar and replace files in-place. :/
[00:55] <billy2007> hi if i use wine to run a program for my i-phone will it detect it
[00:56] <Gryllida> billy2007: What do you mean by `detect`?
[00:56] <usr13> alex__: If you are wanting to use VLC and need to install it, just use the package manager.
[00:56] <dee27> lol
[00:56] <alex__> alright thanks
[00:56] <billy2007> that my phones connected to the pc?
[00:56] <Muelli> billy2007: probably not. Better go with KVM or VirtualBox.
[00:56] <dee27> aint gunna detect it
[00:57] <alex__> can VLC convert files?
[00:57] <pfifo> Muelli, kvm and vbox arent going todo any better than wine
[00:57] <b0nghitter> yes, it uses ffmpeg for alot of it
[00:57] <b0nghitter> alex__: ^
[00:57] <Muelli> pfifo: O_o they surely will reg. USB connectivity
[00:57] <alex__> so it will be able to turn a .avi into a .mp4?
[00:57] <pfifo> Muelli, nope
[00:58] <b0nghitter> alex__: yes, h264 if you want also
[00:58] <billy2007> Muelli, is kvm just for ubuntu images?
[00:58] <Muelli> billy2007: no.
[00:58] <alex__> h264?
[00:58] <alex__> which is for ipods right?
[00:58] <b0nghitter> alex__: #videolan
[00:58] <Muelli> pfifo: so how do you load your proprietary iphone or whatever driver into Linux with Wine?
[00:58] <tonytraductor> look at this screenshot: http://blinguas.homelinux.net/more/moattcrap.jpg
[00:58] <dee27> for different type
[00:58] <dee27> hd blue-ray
[00:59] <pfifo> Muelli, afaik you dont, any iphone support is using reverse engineered stuff
[00:59] <tonytraductor> then look at ifconfig: http://blinguas.homelinux.net/pnopaste/?18
[00:59] <share> dee27: you want to play bluray?
[00:59] <tonytraductor> this machine is 192.168.1.67
[00:59] <share> install lxBDplayer
[00:59] <tonytraductor> not listed in the interface in the screenshot. (although, from the router front page it IS, and is the onlymachine listed)
[01:00] <tonytraductor> not making sense.  the problem is this BS router
[01:00] <share> yes tonytraductor
[01:00] <share> tonytraductor: what's your problem
[01:00] <tonytraductor> can' t open port to allow ssh to this machine
[01:00] <billy2007> pfifo, ive tried a range of jailbreaking tools i cant seem to get any to work on linux :( is there any ubuntu jailbreaking software
[01:00] <tdignan> ah, I am freaking out ubuntu
[01:00] <ikonia> billy2007: no, there is not
[01:00] <b0nghitter> alex__: h264 is a codec for mainly for HD .mp4/.f4v... vlc is just a good app for converting to many types of codecs. it's what i use
[01:00] <tdignan> why is there no progress bar when I resize a partition with your installer?
[01:00] <usr13> tonytraductor: So you are asking us how to configure a router?
[01:01] <share> tonytraductor: login into the router
[01:01] <alex__> b0nghitter, can i use arista transcoder instead?
[01:01] <pfifo> !iphone | billy2007 this is the only stuff I know of
[01:01] <b0nghitter> alex__: never heard of it sorry
[01:01] <tonytraductor> I am in the router
[01:01] <usr13> share: He is apparently already logged into the router, but what does it have to do with Ubuntu?
[01:02] <bazhang> alex__, just use handbrake for that
[01:02] <bazhang> !handbrake | alex__
[01:02] <tonytraductor> this machine is runnign ubuntu, and I need to be able to admin it remotely over ssh
[01:02] <DIL> he needs to port forward to poert 22
[01:02] <share> tonytraductor: now add 22 tcp to 192.168.1.267
[01:02] <Muelli> pfifo: I don't think Wine ships any reverse engineered USB drivers. Reading http://wiki.winehq.org/USB makes me indeed think that using KVM or VirtualBox is a lot easier to pass USB to a Window application than trying Wine.
[01:02] <share> *192.168.1.67
[01:02] <tonytraductor> that
[01:02] <alex__> bazhang, for some reason, one of the episodes in this tv show,make handbrake crash
[01:02] <bazhang> alex__, handbrake has special settings specifically for the ipod
[01:02] <share> tonytraductor: it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[01:02] <alex__> like handbrake doesnt want to scan it or something
[01:02] <ikonia> alex__: handbreak has it's own support channel that is very good
[01:02] <tonytraductor> well there' s the problem the interface on this router makes no sense. can' t figure out how to oopen 22 to this machine
[01:03] <pfifo> Muelli, kvm/qemu dosent support USB at all, and vbox only supports a few different devices
[01:03] <tonytraductor> I can do it on my linksys router at home, no problem. this ATT Gateway router is making no sense, that' s the problem
[01:03] <bazhang> alex__, then its corrupt. not handbrake problem
[01:03] <Muelli> pfifo: get your facts straight. QEmu supports USB for ages.
[01:03] <ikonia> tonytraductor: the router should have support resources, forum/email/irc etc, try them
[01:03] <DIL> the existing ip are to two other computers?
[01:03] <tonytraductor> you know, this is why I use debian.  their channl isn
[01:03] <tdignan> as a serious question, I am resizing a partition with the ubuntu installer, and there is no progress bar. Just an animated cursor
[01:03] <tonytraductor> the debian channel is helpful
[01:03] <share> tonytraductor: find the model of your router and do a search on router model + port forward
[01:03] <tdignan> what is up with this?
[01:03] <tdignan> am I in trouble?
[01:04] <pfifo> Muelli, it better not, i switched to vbox cause of that issue
[01:04] <ikonia> tonytraductor: are you using ubuntu or debian ?
[01:04] <tdignan> guys stop feeding the troll
[01:04] <alex__> bazhang, it isnt corrupt arista transcoder fixed my problem :D
[01:04] <tdignan> he's been at this for a good 2 hours or more
[01:04] <share> ikonia: it doesnt matter he wants to port forward.. it's in the router not linux distro
[01:04] <alex__> tdignan, what troll?
[01:04] <illmortal> Was there a new update that caused dual display to stop working?
[01:04] <ikonia> share: I fully agree
[01:04] <tdignan> alex__: if you don't know, then, I'm sorry.
[01:04] <illmortal> I'm on Ubuntu 11.04.. restarted my PC and now can only get one display to work.
[01:05] <usr13> tonytraductor: You've shown us a screenshot of a configuration wizard page for a router. I think you need to refer to the router's user manual, (not us).
[01:05] <tdignan> finally, I was scared there.
[01:05] <tonytraductor> I look at information on the router, and how to open the port, the problem is, the router doesn' t have this machine in the list of machines to forward ports to, which is making no sense, thus the screnshot and the ifconfig output iI sent to the channel
[01:05] <tdignan> the partition resizer needs a progress bar.
[01:05] <tonytraductor> I WAS ASKED TO POST THE SCREENSHOT
[01:05] <bazhang> portforward.com tonytraductor
[01:05] <ikonia> tonytraductor: best thing to do is contact the support resource for the router, and they can walk you through it, over email/irc/forum whatever
[01:06] <bazhang> tonytraductor, lose the caps
[01:06] <tdignan> tonytraductor: you might want to ask a psychiatrist about this
[01:06] <tonytraductor> yes portforward.com HERE: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/2wire/2701HG-B/Limewire.htm
[01:06] <bazhang> tdignan, uncalled for.
[01:06] <tonytraductor> this shows the interface for this router
[01:06] <usr13> tonytraductor: Are you able to ping the router's IP from the Ubuntu machine?
[01:06] <bazhang> tonytraductor, but its not an ubuntu issue
[01:06] <tonytraductor> the problem is the router is not offering THIS machine to forward stuff too
[01:06] <ikonia> tonytraductor: please stop asking about your router,
[01:06] <pfifo> Muelli, damn it, your right, well thats going to come in handy
[01:07] <edbian> I have an external hdd with a button on the front.  What the heck does this button do?  It has what looks like a file icon (little piece of paper) next to it.
[01:07] <Muelli> pfifo: sure I am ;-) I developed some USB stuff in QEmu ;-)
[01:07] <Douggle> Hi having some wbui issues getting the error No root file system is defined where am i supposed to define this in the grub.cfg or?
[01:07] <ikonia> edbian: you know the deal, that's not an ubuntu thing
[01:07] <lost_soul> I found an ubuntu 10.04 live cd and that also shows both network interfaces fine btw guys, so it isn't a hardware issue
[01:07] <edbian> oh, yeah
[01:08] <edbian> sometimes I forget
[01:08] <ikonia> edbian: easy done
[01:09] <spacebug-> lost_soul: same kernel version on the live cd as the installed os?
[01:09] <b0nghitter> i'm trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX on ubuntu server 11.04, but there is no PPA repo for 11.04... can i get around this somehow without any problems?
[01:09] <illmortal> anyone know if there was a recent update with 11.04 that caused dual displays to stop working (with NVIDIA drivers)?
[01:10] <Muelli> illmortal: try without the proprietary drivers
[01:10] <illmortal> eh.. not sure how to do that...
[01:10] <lost_soul> spacebug-: I highly doubt the kernel versions are the same.  But still different kernel versions wouldn't explain why it worked fine the first day and then just stopped I don't think.
[01:11] <tdignan> How do I select primary/logical in the ubuntu installer's partition editor?
[01:11] <usr13> lost_soul: Have you lost the use of one of your NICs?
[01:12] <illmortal> Meulli should I try apt-get remove nvidia driver?
[01:12] <Muelli> illmortal: rather try synaptic first
[01:13] <lost_soul> usr13: yes I have
[01:13] <usr13> lost_soul: ifconfig eth0 ; ifconfig eth1
[01:13] <illmortal> Well here's the interesting part.. I clicked on, "additional drivers" under Administrator... and it reads, "This dirver is activated but not currently in use"
[01:13] <newblet> Hi, I had a question and was wondering if someone could help
[01:13] <illmortal> I think that's the issue Muelli
[01:13] <Muelli> !ask | newblet
[01:13] <lost_soul> usr13: one moment, it's rebooting.  I had it booted into a live cd.
[01:14] <usr13> lost_soul: Is it eth1 or eth0 that you have lost?
[01:14] <lost_soul> usr13: eth1
[01:14] <Muelli> illmortal: well. If it doesn't work with the free drivers, I'd file a bug.
[01:14] <KM0201> tdignan: you have to do manual partitioning to do that...
[01:14] <usr13> lost_soul: Are they both ethernet?
[01:14] <Muelli> illmortal: but have you check gnome-display-properties and selected a dual head setup?
[01:14] <lost_soul> usr13: yes
[01:14] <newblet> alright, well I am running Ubuntu 10.10 on an HP DM1Z (Which has many problems out of the box with ubuntu) and I have this AMD unsupported Hardware wtaermark on the bottom right of my screen, that I was wondering how do I remove it
[01:15] <usr13> lost_soul: Ok, well issue the above command and see what it says.
[01:15] <illmortal> where's gnome-display-properties, muelli?
[01:15] <newblet> it appeared here once I installed the additional drivers
[01:15] <Pard_> I'm having a problem installing Twin. I got it installed via aptitude (I think) but it doesn't appear anywhere. I also tried compiling it myself but it won't get past the make. Anyone have luck installing Twin on Natty?
[01:15] <KM0201> newblet: never heard of that
[01:15] <truepurple> An AV has found what it calls infected files on ubuntu, could they be real, but innert?
[01:15] <tdignan> KM0201: I selected manual partitioning. Are you saying I have to use fdisk/cfdisk?
[01:15] <KM0201> no.
[01:16] <Muelli> Pard_: what's the exact error message? It's probably best if you pastebin the output of "make"
[01:16] <newblet> I looked it up on google, it seams to be a somewhat popular issue, and the weird thing is I cant capture it in a screen shot
[01:16] <newblet> it doesnt show up in it
[01:16] <tdignan> Well, I did not see the option. Where is it?
[01:16] <KM0201> if you selected manual partitioning, then once you assign your partitions, you'll be able to set them as logical/primary, etc
[01:16] <Pard_> Muelli: 10-4!
[01:16] <Muelli> Pard_: but if you installed it, you can search for the package name, i.e. 'apt-cache search Twin' and then do a dpkg --listfiles $packagename
[01:16] <lost_soul> usr13: http://pastebin.com/tM4iYjkT
[01:17] <DJ> divam
[01:17] <usr13> lost_soul: lspci
[01:17] <usr13> lost_soul: lspci |pastebinit
[01:18] <lost_soul> usr13: http://pastebin.com/VVTDYMKk
[01:19] <lost_soul> usr13: if you want a pastebin of the lspci output from a system that does see both cards I can do that..  will just take me a couple min to boot into a live cd and setup
[01:19] <Pard_> That's weird. Seems like ./configure isn't working because make isn't finding anything to make.
[01:19] <tdignan> KM0201: the only options the installer gives me are "install alongside windows 7, replace windows 7 with ubuntu, and 'Something else'" of which I chose, something else.
[01:19] <KM0201> tdignan: right, thats the manual partition tool
[01:19] <tdignan> I was not ever given an option to choose logical/primary, and I have sda1,sda2, and sda3 created. That leaves room for one more, sda4, right?
[01:19] <tdignan> or am I mistaken
[01:20] <tdignan> is sda4 gone when you use the logical ones/
[01:20] <Muelli> Pard_: whenever you seek support, provide exact details. In this case, the exact output and your exact commands.
[01:20] <usr13> lost_soul: Is one of them on-board?
[01:20] <lost_soul> usr13: yes, the intel you see is onboard
[01:20] <tdignan> Oh, I get an option, logical/primary, when I create 3.
[01:21] <tdignan> I guess the limit is sda1-3, if you have logical.
[01:21] <lost_soul> usr13: the second one that you don't see is now a via rhine III
[01:21] <Pard_> Muelli: Going to be hard since I'm not running X at the moment (hence why I'm trying to get twin.) But I'll see what I can do.
[01:21] <lost_soul> before it was a davicom card of some sort
[01:21] <Muelli> Pard_: you can use "script" and "pastebinit" or "wgetpaste"
[01:22] <Pard_> Muelli: OK
[01:24] <usr13> lost_soul: lsmod |grep rhine
[01:25] <lost_soul> usr13: http://pastebin.com/Q40eeMSW
[01:25] <lost_soul> that shows it
[01:26] <usr13> lost_soul: sudo ifconfig up eth1
[01:27] <usr13> lost_soul: sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[01:27] <lost_soul> usr13: http://pastebin.com/k8hSJ9xp
[01:27] <velofille> ifup eth1
[01:27] <Greta2> :)
[01:28] <Greta2> Hi, all!
[01:28] <Gryllida> Greta2: Hi
[01:28] <velofille> usually the correct way to do it i think, it parses the networking scripts etc
[01:28] <lost_soul> yea, sorry..  I was tempted to paste it in here due to being only three lines..  thus the delay
[01:28] <lost_soul> but didn't wanna upset anyone
[01:28] <usr13> lost_soul: See my pm
[01:29] <lost_soul> usr13: ok, sorry..  didn't see it come in
[01:30] <cedriczg> Hi there, anyone knows which would be the best channel to ask sth related to empathy chat client?
[01:30] <illmortal> just a heads up.. if anyone updated their kernel and only one display out of multiple displays works.. do a sudo update-grub, then restart your machine -.-
[01:31] <xrdodrx> hi, I'm having a rather unusual problem, my power just went out then came back on and now ubuntu won't access my external HDD. It is on and is spinning, but it will not mount. I have tried disconnecting and reconnecting the USB cable, but to no avail :(
[01:32] <Burzmali> Does anyone know the correct place ot report an OpenJDK bug?
[01:32] <spacebug-> xrdodrx: is it a drive with external power to it, or does it get power through the usb cable?
[01:32] <Muelli> Burzmali: google knows, no?
[01:32] <xrdodrx> spacebug-, external power
[01:32] <spacebug-> xrdodrx: then it _might_ have gotten destroyd
[01:32] <xrdodrx> It was connected to a laptop that was on battery power
[01:33] <rww> !bug | Burzmali
[01:33] <xrdodrx> spacebug-, don't say that :)
[01:33] <xrdodrx> spacebug-, anything I can do to revive it?
[01:33] <rww> Burzmali: in your case, package probably equals openjdk-6-jre
[01:33] <xrdodrx> It was hooked up to a surge protector
[01:33] <billy2007> if i install itunes through wine could i then transfer any downloads from itunes to my iphone through ubuntu ?
[01:33] <spacebug-> it does not have to be, just saying it could be
[01:33] <Muelli> billy2007: I'd guess no. I'd use Qemu/KVM.
[01:34] <xrdodrx> spacebug-, right, but is there anything I can do to make it mount/revive it
[01:34] <spacebug-> xrdodrx: tried it in another computer? put both the power and data cabel out for a minute? rebooted the laptop?
[01:34] <Muelli> billy2007: or you could use Banshee or Rhythmbox to move files to your proproetary Apple device
[01:34] <cedriczg> xrdodrx, when you connect your external HD, what happens if you try the command dmesg?
[01:34] <xrdodrx> spacebug-, I'll try all three
[01:34] <spacebug-> xrdodrx: ok
[01:35] <cedriczg> xrdodrx, is it recognized?
[01:35] <xrdodrx> cedriczg, let's see
[01:35] <Greta2> Gryllida: is it true that I can not receive support from ANYONE in this channel if I am running Ubuntu 8.04 just because the "support stopped on May 12, 2011"?
[01:35] <billy2007> Muelli, ive gone passed jailbreaking ill leave it as is i just want a way to download apps from my pc then transfer them to my iphone
[01:35] <brewster> what's the max ram size supported by ubuntu?
[01:35] <brewster> or doesn't it matter?
[01:35] <rww> Greta2: Are you running a command-line only system or a graphical interface?
[01:35] <Muelli> brewster: close to infinity
[01:35] <xrdodrx> cedriczg, [1203176.197833] usb 1-3: USB disconnect, address 16
[01:35] <cedriczg> anyone is using empathy here? I am using ubuntu natty and would like to tweak it
[01:35] <brewster> ok
[01:35] <brewster> ty
[01:36] <Greta2> rww: I am running a graphical interface atm, but I am working in the terminal.
[01:36] <xangua> !pae | if you mean 32bit brewster
[01:36] <rww> Greta2: Then correct, your Ubuntu install is not supported.
[01:36] <cedriczg> xrdodrx, then it gets recognized but for some reason it then gets disconnected.
[01:36] <brewster> oh
[01:36] <brewster> ok
[01:36] <Greta2> rww, surely there must be SOMEONE who can help me wtih version 8.04 here... would there happen to be anyone who can help me please?
[01:37] <billy2007> why would you ever need more than 3.2 g of ram
[01:37] <rww> Greta2: #ubuntu is for supported versions of Ubuntu
[01:37] <xrdodrx> cedriczg, http://paste.ubuntu.com/637703/
[01:37] <xrdodrx> Is more of dmesg
[01:37] <Nobgul-bnc> billy2007, Lots of people use mreo then 3 gigs for video editing and gaming.
[01:37] <Nobgul-bnc> more*
[01:37] <Greta2> rww: I think #ubuntu should support ALL verisons of Ubuntu and not just the most recent ones
[01:37] <Greta2> rww: not everyone has the most recent version.
[01:38] <Muelli> I think everybody should have ponies
[01:38] <Nobgul-bnc> Greta2, what is your problem i missed it.
[01:38] <rww> Greta2: Your version of Ubuntu stopped receiving security updates and support in May. This was publicized when Ubuntu 8.04 was released and when it went End of Life. It is not feasible for our security and support teams to continue supporting old versions of Ubuntu indefinately.
[01:38] <Burzmali> rww: Do you happen to know it the upstream cares about what is posted on our side?
[01:38] <xangua> Greta2: it supports the Supported versions...
[01:38] <Gryllida> Greta2: Right
[01:38] <spacebug-> xrdodrx:  the "medium error" seems no good :(
[01:38] <rww> Burzmali: Depends on the upstream. In a perfect world, the BugSquad forwards bugs to upstream if necessary.
[01:39] <Greta2> Nobgul-bnc: I am looking to understand what my error message means with regards to my partitioning process.
[01:39] <xrdodrx> spacebug-, so it's toast then?
[01:39] <Gryllida> Greta2: However if it's not version-specific, I suppose people would help
[01:39] <xrdodrx> Return it?
[01:39] <Nobgul-bnc> Greta2, Can you pastebin the error I will look, not sure I can help but we shall see
[01:39] <Greta2> rww, xangua and Gryllida, thank you for all of your input, but at this moment I find that your help is very constrained.
[01:40] <xrdodrx> I don't see how this could happen :(
[01:40] <cedriczg> xrdodrx, well from the dmesg error logs it seams your external HD has some issues after your power problems
[01:40] <xrdodrx> it was connected to a surge protector
[01:40] <xrdodrx> and formatted as ext4
[01:40] <cedriczg> xrdodrx, you might need to run a scan for the disk. But not sure how if you even are not being able to connect to it...
[01:40] <Greta2> Nobgul-bnc: thank you for making yourself available to help me. I have to make a screenshot, as my linux system is on another machine entirely. Be right back! :)
[01:40] <xrdodrx> cedriczg, it appears in /dev
[01:40] <Nobgul-bnc> Greta2, ok. No problem
[01:40] <xrdodrx> /dev/sdc1
[01:41] <xrdodrx> Couldn't I use fsck?
[01:41] <spacebug-> why not
[01:41] <xrdodrx> spacebug-, I'm not sure about the command :(
[01:41] <xrdodrx> I was just reading about that online ;)
[01:41] <eduardo_> Just reading
[01:41] <spacebug-> fsck /dev/sdc1
[01:42] <cedriczg> xrdodrx, try what spacebug-  suggested then
[01:42] <xrdodrx> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
[01:42] <xrdodrx> then it pauses
[01:42] <xrdodrx> normal?
[01:42] <kwtm2> I tried reinstalling MythTV after purging but looks like old settings are still there.  How do I rename a MySQL database, please?
[01:43] <spacebug-> xrdodrx: can't remember really what is should say but not just pause and no text
[01:43] <rww> Greta2: If you want to use a system that has unpatched security vulnerabilities and is not supported by its creators, that's your problem. Please don't bring it into #ubuntu and make it ours ;(
[01:44] <xrdodrx> spacebug-, that's what it did...just paused
[01:44] <xrdodrx> :(
[01:44] <spacebug-> xrdodrx: probably because it cannot access the device
[01:44] <xrdodrx> spacebug-, the funny thing is that the access light is blinking
[01:44] <xrdodrx> a lot
[01:45] <spacebug-> hum ok
[01:46] <xrdodrx> spacebug-, should I kill it?
[01:46] <spacebug-> if it is a disk inside a box, you might be able to get the disk out and put it in a computer and get the data
[01:46] <spacebug-> xrdodrx: hum maybe
[01:46] <xrdodrx> o
[01:46] <xrdodrx> it gave an error: fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sdc1
[01:46] <xrdodrx> Could this be a zero-length partition?
[01:47] <eduardo_> It is complicated
[01:48] <Jordan_U> xrdodrx: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -lu"?
[01:48] <xrdodrx> Jordan_U, yes, one moment please
[01:49] <Greta2> rww: all I expect is patience and understanding. You are also not aware that I DO NOT have this machine online. As a result, this machine is NOT going to affect you in ANY way at this time.
[01:49] <xrdodrx> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/637707/
[01:49] <donpdonp> im following the steps in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades but 'apt-get upgrade' is confusing. will it upgrade to 11.04? im trying to get 10.04 installed (from 9.04)
[01:50] <donpdonp> oh nevermind, its just an update of existing packages :)
[01:50] <wsr3193> donp hit alt f2 you can upgrade from there
[01:50] <Jordan_U> Greta2: You are affecting us right now by asking us for support.
[01:50] <xangua> donpdonp: from 9.04 you need to upgrade to 9.10 and then 10.04
[01:50] <Nobgul-bnc> apt-get update will update the system
[01:50] <Josesordo> How I install or set the Video(Webcam)/Audio in Pidgin?..
[01:50] <Nobgul-bnc> err nvm im tired
[01:50] <rww> Greta: You're persistantly asking for help with it in channels that you've been told repeatedly do not support it. This is annoying and detracting from other people with supported systems getting help.
[01:51] <xangua> and then to get 11.04 you need to go from 10.04 to 10.10 and finally 11.04.....i would just download and fresh install it from ubuntu.com
[01:51] <xrdodrx> Jordan_U, any ideas? It looks like good news to me?
[01:51] <Greta> Nobgul-bnc, may I pm you please?
[01:51] <Nobgul-bnc> Sure
[01:51] <Greta> tysm!
[01:52] <alex__> is there any chance that republic commando will run in 11.04? it wont run for me in 10.10 :C
[01:52] <Nobgul-bnc> aleX-xx, What error's does it give while running?
[01:53] <Kuwanger> It's a shame Ubuntu doesn't have something LTS but for a longer period, though. :/
[01:53] <ubuntunoobie2903> I installed OpenJDK Java 6 Runtime and its browser plugin for firefox, but I can't get java to work.
[01:53] <ubuntunoobie2903> Any suggestions?
[01:53] <Nobgul-bnc> !firefoxjava
[01:54] <Nobgul-bnc> hrmm there is a bot command for that i thinks
[01:54] <wsr3193> Ubuntunoobie,  you also need to install icetea
[01:54] <ubuntunoobie2903> icetea is installed
[01:54] <usr13> ubuntunoobie2903: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[01:55] <spacebug-> Kuwanger: three years for desktop, five years for server is not enough?
[01:56] <Jordan_U> xrdodrx: It looks like the partition is much smaller than the disk it's contained on, and possibly smaller than the filesystem (which would be consistent with the error message from fsck). Do you have any idea why the partition would be so small compared to the capacity of the disk?
[01:56] <usr13> !java  ubuntunoobie2903
[01:56] <usr13> !java |  ubuntunoobie2903
[01:57] <mobodo> is it possible to launch something on display 0 while connected from tty through ssh?
[01:57] <rww> mobodo: DISPLAY=:0 commandnamehere
[01:57] <usr13> mobodo: Yes
[01:57] <Jordan_U> mobodo: DISPLAY=:0.0 command
[01:57] <billy2007> i cant seem to run i tunes through wine any ideas?
[01:58] <usr13> export DISPLAY=:0.0
[01:58] <mobodo> heh thanks :)
[01:58] <Jordan_U> !wine | billy2007
[01:58] <Kuwanger> spacebug-: Having to update the whole system three times a decade on the desktop just to be sure security bugs are still being fixed seems a bit much.
[01:58] <Jordan_U> billy2007: Why do you specifically want iTunes?
[01:58] <xangua> billy2007: buy an android, a lot easied or use the apple cloud thing
[01:58] <xangua> easier*
[01:59] <Nobgul-bnc> billy2007, there is a itunes laternative. I think its called blackbird
[01:59] <billy2007> to download apps to my pc from the app centre
[01:59] <spacebug-> Kuwanger: ok if you think so.
[01:59] <Nobgul-bnc> oh to downlaod apps just use the app manager on your phone?
[01:59] <billy2007> Nobgul-bnc, but would i still be able to download from apple app centre
[02:00] <xrdodrx> Jordan_U, no, I don't
[02:00] <xrdodrx> I partitoned the drive using gparted as soon as I got it
[02:00] <xrdodrx> ext4, one partition, using the entire disk
[02:00] <operatorplik> plik1234
[02:00] <xrdodrx> it's okay because all of my computers use Ubuntu
[02:00] <billy2007> Nobgul-bnc, i dont think yo uu understand i want to save data on my phonby download on my pc
[02:00] <Nobgul-bnc> billy2007, not with any of the itunes alternatives. only transfer songs to or from the ipad pod phone
[02:02] <Nobgul-bnc> billy2007, you want to use the backup feature. I understand. You will have to install wine and run itunes in it.
[02:02] <Jordan_U> xrdodrx: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sdc1"?
[02:02] <Nobgul-bnc> billy2007,  I will tell you it runs really bad in wine. You may be better off dual booting just to use itunes under windows.
[02:03] <xrdodrx> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/637713/
[02:03] <billy2007> it  installs perfectly without a hitch then i get an error message when i try to enter the app store and it closes
[02:03] <Jordan_U> xrdodrx: I need to leave for a few minutes but I will be back.
[02:03] <xrdodrx> Jordan_U, okay :)
[02:04] <Nobgul-bnc> As i said. it doesnt run properly you do not need to enter the app store to backup
[02:04] <ubuntunoobie2903> ubottu: just followed the instructions at the tinyurl you gave me, it installs but it still won't run in the browser
[02:05] <Nobgul-bnc> !chromium
[02:05] <famicube64> lolobonto
[02:08] <cedriczg> anyone using empathy on unity? It appears to me or clicking on the bar for the chat button is not working as expected?
[02:11] <WiK> hello all
[02:12] <WiK> im tring to explor the bootsplash setup...i have this file where the header is BOOTSPL3...could anyone point me to some info on how to create a replacement?
[02:12] <duvel> grrrr
[02:13] <duvel> Why is there no stable drivers for Logitech G19 Keyboard!!!=(
[02:18] <woodyjlw> hmmm I think 11.04 is a huge step backwards for ubuntu!  hope there is a way to install the gnome desktop like in 10.04... is there?
[02:18] <mobodo> woodyjlw: like, choosing it from the login menu?
[02:19] <rww> !classic | woodyjlw
[02:19] <Medjai> Is there a way to get my bug on Launchpad accepted by a developer or how does the whole assignment process work?
[02:19] <maxxist> this may be a dumb question...  would it be at all beneficial on my eee 1215p netbook to run ubuntu from an sd card?  I am looking to maximize the battery life by not running the hard drive in it
[02:19] <woodyjlw> thanks ....will definitely have to do that!
[02:20] <DartmanX> I'm getting the errno5 trying to install on a Dell laptop, even though I'm trying to install from USB, not CD. Can anyone help?
[02:22] <woodyjlw> now on all previous versions of ubuntu I was able to use hardware additional drivers to install my broadcom wireless and now it dose not see my wireless to give me the option to install driver. is there a different way now?
[02:23] <Nobgul-bnc> Should be the same way as before.
[02:24] <roasted> Anybody good with grub2? I'm trying to set up an ubuntu ISO (several, actually) to load on my flash drive, but it's tanking on me.
[02:25] <froq> can I not share a photo on the ubuntu forums via flickr?
[02:25] <Nobgul-bnc> roasted, what is the problem your having?
[02:27] <DriversFixed> Should onboard RAID 1 cause gparted to detect the 2 drives as two separate drives?
[02:27] <xangua> roasted: multiboot ¿ i use multi sysmem http://liveusb.info/dotclear/
[02:30] <george_> i am trying ubuntu 11.04 and after booting cd, i get a black screen ... I have a DELL vostro 3500, any sugestions ?
[02:30] <roasted> Nobgul-bnc, well I installed grub2 onto a 4gb flash drive, and I set up a grub config file with the menu entry to my ubuntu iso. But it tanks when I try to boot. I just get a grub> prompt
[02:31] <kwtm2> wow, installing mythtv fails to install a working mythtv installation.  Is there a more basic mythtv package than "mythtv"?  Maybe "mythtv-basic-EveryoneNeedsThis"?
[02:32] <bazhang> kwtm2, mythbuntu-desktop you mean
[02:33] <DriversFixed> Can anyone tell my gparted is reading onboard RAID as 2 different drives?
[02:33] <DriversFixed> Or is it supposed to do that
[02:34] <kwtm2> bazhang: Is that what I need?  I want to retain my kubuntu-desktop, but am trying to reinstall MythTV from scratch to get rid of old settings (copied inadvertently from a hard drive restore).  I tried "sudo apt-get purge mythtv" and also deleted the mythconverg database from MySQL, but then "sudo apt-get install mythtv" resulted in a complaint that it couldn't find the database (which I deleted) --shouldn't installation create the
[02:34] <kwtm2> database, or at least not assume that it should already exist?
[02:35] <roasted> Nobgul-bnc, actually I may have just fixed it. I had the wrong menu entry in. I guess the youtube video I watched was old. Hey, if I use the same menu entry settings for linux mint, think I'd be able to multi boot it as well? I can't find the specific mint settings. :(
[02:35] <woodyjlw> how do I install bcm43 wireless driver for ubuntu 11.04?
[02:37] <thezanke> anyone know why occasionally my ubuntu locks up, keyboard stops working and the top bar buttons stop working, but anything already open continues to work
[02:37] <BluesKaj> !broadcom | woodyjlw
[02:39] <bazhang> kwtm2, thats the metapackage to bring all the mythtv items; there is also #ubuntu-mythtv channel
[02:40] <kwtm2> bazhang: Oh, that channel is deader than my 80386 with smoke rising out of it.
[02:40] <DartmanX> I have the iso on my NAS... is it somehow possible to install from there?
[02:40] <kwtm2> I entered my question over 24 hours ago.  No response.
[02:40] <kwtm2> bazhang: So, would   apt-get purge mythbuntu-desktop   then make sure that everything gets purged, including old config files?
[02:40] <DartmanX> I cannot get around the errno5 during install, I'm getting desperate
[02:41] <woodyjlw> BluesKaj,  awesome! worked perfect I can now see all wireless connections now.  thanks
[02:41] <bazhang> kwtm2, its a metapackage so removing will not remove the things it installed, just mythbuntu-desktop
[02:41] <dee27> recommend to encode videos
[02:41] <DriversFixed> Should gparted detect onboard RAID arrays as separate disks?
[02:42] <dee27> ?
[02:42] <kwtm2> bazhang: I was afraid of that ... this is really getting frustrating.  I know how to install from scratch.  It just won't let me, for some reason, no matter how hard I try.
[02:42] <bazhang> dee27, please clarify
[02:42] <dee27> program
[02:43] <bazhang> dee27, thats not clarifying. thats a single word
[02:43] <kwtm2> george_: Did you get your question answered yet?  If not: try Ctrl-Shift-F2 (or replace F2 with F3 or F4 etc.)  or was that Ctrl-Alt-F2?  Can't remember.  Anyway, that should bring you to a text screen where you can log in.  Hope you are familiar with the command line.
[02:43] <DriversFixed> dee27, please use proper english, but handbrake and arista are two programs I've heard of
[02:43] <dee27> thanks that all u have say
[02:44] <bazhang> dee27, explain exactly what you are trying to do.
[02:44] <kwtm2> dee27: mencoder
[02:44] <dee27> do people encode
[02:44] <dee27> to have better quality?
[02:44] <DriversFixed> bazhang, he wanted a program to transcode videos.  and he's a fan of the "less is more" approach in communication xD
[02:44] <donpdonp> any idea why ubuntu doesnt want to upgrade this 9.04 system? http://pastie.org/2160755
[02:44] <bazhang> dee27, yes
[02:44] <dee27> i see
[02:44] <DriversFixed> dee27:  Now i can't understand what you mean now.
[02:45] <dee27> is transmageddon
[02:45] <dee27> good?
[02:45] <bazhang> dee27, if you ask an actual question, you'll receive a proper response
[02:45] <DriversFixed> Video has to be encoded, otherwise it would be really really large filesize
[02:47] <DriversFixed> bazhang:  Could you help me with my RAID issue?  Should gparted be detecting onboard RAID 1 as 2 different drives, even though the BIOS lists them as "1 drive" (On 1 line, calls it an array)
[02:53] <DriversFixed> Can anyone answer my question?
[02:53] <wildbat> DriversFixed: gparted don't work with my fakeRAID too in ubuntu ~ 10.04 -ASUS p5b
[02:54] <DriversFixed> wildbat:  Ugh, great.  How do I put an image on my array then...
[02:54] <pretender> in ubuntu 10.10 handbrake does not have the xvid container.  How can i add it
[02:55] <occupant> Has anyone successfully used a radeon card and intel integrated graphics simultanously? can't seem to get them both working at once.
[02:55] <Shaba1> hello
[02:56] <null> Question:  How can I find out what resolutions are supported by my LCD monitor?  eg: what does xrandr use to display the available resolutions?  I guess I could just go read the source
[02:56] <Shaba1> anyway of finding out why ubuntu/wubi froze
[02:56] <xrdodrx> pretender, I'm pretty sure the handbrake developers gave up on XviD, considering it's such an old format
[02:56] <Osmodivs> Hello. I always forget this one. How do you copy 20 files from a folder to another folder? I have been trying to do it like this. cp -r /home/me/folder /usr/lib but the folder and it's contents are copied, but I just want the contents without the folder to be copied to the new location, How do I do this?
[02:56] <Shaba1> I was in the channel about 10 minutes ago and xchat/ubuntu/wubi just froze. I had to power off an power back on
[02:57] <Kuwanger> null: The X server queries the LCD monitor, I think, then tries to validate which resolutions are sensible.  If you look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, you're likely to see mention of many resolutions reported as invalid.
[02:57] <twnznz> Osmodivs: cp /home/me/folder/* /usr/lib/
[02:57] <DriversFixed> occupant:  Why would you want to do that?
[02:57] <Nobgul-bnc> Osmodivs, i think cp /folder/here/* to/here/*
[02:57] <twnznz> Although you might want to do something different
[02:57] <twnznz> like EXPORT LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[02:58] <Osmodivs> occupant, Thats imposible, one will ovwerride the other, " objects can't occupied the same place
[02:58] <Osmodivs> Nobgul-bnc, With the "*" asteriks?
[02:58] <null> Kuwanger: I had overlooked xorg.0.log, thanks!
[02:58] <Nobgul-bnc> Yes the *
[02:58] <Nobgul-bnc> I am almost 99% SURE
[02:58] <Osmodivs> twnznz, Thx
[02:59] <twnznz> Osmodivs: Go into /etc/ld.so.conf.d, make a new textfile containing '/home/me/folder/', then run ldconfig
[02:59] <xangua> Shaba1: try a real install better ;)
[02:59] <occupant> driversfixed: I want three outputs. Possible in windows, but that's no fun.
[02:59] <twnznz> This will tell ld to look in /home/me/folder for libraries, as well as in the other paths.
[02:59] <Osmodivs> twnznz,  ¿Ldconfig? What's that for?
[02:59] <DriversFixed> occupant:  I'd say that's a no go on any OS
[02:59] <DriversFixed> occupant:  Although it may be possible with a single amd card, which one is it?
[03:00] <twnznz> Osmodivs: straight from manpage: "       ldconfig  creates,  updates, and removes the necessary links and cache (for use by the run-time linker, ld.so)
[03:00] <twnznz>        to the most recent shared libraries found in the directories specified  on  the  command  line,  in  the  file
[03:00] <occupant> driversfixed: Oh, it totally works in Windows. An old 3650
[03:00] <DriversFixed> does anyone have an alternative to gparted that works with onboard raid, preferably with a gui?
[03:00] <twnznz> .../etc/ld.so.conf,  and  in  the  trusted  directories (/usr/lib and /lib)."
[03:00] <DriversFixed> occupant:  using 3 outputs from an intel gma and an ati card together?
[03:01] <DriversFixed> occupant:  extend desktop or clone?
[03:01] <Cameron904> how do i delete my old version of adobe flash so i can install the newest one?
[03:01] <twnznz> Osmodivs: Basically, ld.so.conf.d/* controls the folders the runtime linker looks for libraries.
[03:02] <occupant> driversfixed: Well admittedly I had it running with a geforce before, but yes, three independent displays, discrete+integrated.
[03:02] <occupant> but the geforce wasn't 2-DVI, this is
[03:02] <pretender> xrdodrx thanks
[03:02] <demonspork> Cameron904, no need to, the new one should overwrite the old one
[03:03] <DriversFixed> occupant:  That's really weird, I've never heard of such a thing being possible.  I imagine the cards would need to share framebuffer and everything
[03:03] <Cameron904> i tried that using the update center, i still cant get on pandora =/
[03:03] <Osmodivs> twnznz, Well, I want to copy some libBoost143 in there, altough I already instaled LibBoost142 via synaptic, I need the 143 version, I hope I do not break anything
[03:04] <twnznz> Really, can you not just make && make install?
[03:04] <dragonflare921> wobbly windows slows my window movement speed waaaay down, as in, framerate drops immensely. ive never had this problem before. any suggestions?
[03:05] <dragonflare921> im using the newest version of compiz
[03:06] <Cameron904> how should i download the newest flash then to see if i can try it again
[03:06] <xangua> Cameron904: you mean the 64bit plugin¿
[03:06] <Cameron904> i think i am, not sure.
[03:06] <Cameron904> still a big noob at buntu
[03:06] <Cameron904> xangua: still a big noob
[03:06] <ubuntunoobie2903> How can I get a window to minimize when I click on its icon?
[03:07] <Cameron904> blah, i dont like 11.04 or w/e it is.
[03:07] <Cameron904> i dont like the left side bar D:
[03:07] <rww> !classic
[03:07] <KM0201> Cameron904: you can use gnome classic
[03:07] <dragonflare921> the whole unity thing throws me off a bit as well
[03:07] <xrdodrx> Cameron904, you don't need to use it lol
[03:07] <DriversFixed> cameron:  want it to stay shown?  get compiz-config settings manager to do that
[03:08] <DriversFixed> wildbat:  I've been doing some research, it seems that dmraid may be a fix
[03:08] <Cameron904> no i want it back to gnome
[03:08] <xangua> Cameron904: do you use a 64bit OS¿
[03:08] <sht> could anyone provide some general insight on as to why ubuntu may hang when doing apt-get install postfix? it sits at Unpacking postfix (from .../postfix_2.7.1-1ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb) ...
[03:08] <Cameron904> session box?
[03:08] <VonhintenHOME`> What's the story with XDMCP and Natty?
[03:08] <KM0201> Cameron904: but i'd start looking for an alternative, gnome 3 is gonna be in 11.10... I recommend yous witch to Lubuntu.. :) (clean and simple)
[03:08] <maxxist> this may be a dumb question...  would it be at all beneficial on my eee 1215p netbook to run ubuntu from an sd card?  I am looking to maximize the battery life by not running the hard drive in it
[03:09] <Pierrick584> Greetings everyone, i'm trying to fix my HDMI sound output, found out a post that the dude change to the driver "alsa (1.7 - HDA Nvidia)" under smplayer, i tried that and it work, but someone know how i could fix globaly the sound?
[03:09] <Cameron904> i forget the command to see if im 64 bit or 32 bit, i know i have 4g ram, but im not sure if i installed 32 or 64
[03:09] <rww> Cameron904: uname -m, x86_64 is 64-bit
[03:09] <Pierrick584> maxx, if its slower to do everything, it might not be efficient, but you might want to try it by yourself to see the result
[03:09] <w33dr0id> I'm not a noob with Linux, but I am used to the Red Hat/Fedora distro....any tips on learning the new commands and tools, etc in ubuntu/debian?
[03:09] <Cameron904> i686
[03:09] <bazhang> !manual | w33dr0id
[03:10] <rww> Cameron904: is 32-bit
[03:10] <DriversFixed> wildbat:  Woot, I got it to work!!!!!
[03:10] <bazhang> !wiki | w33dr0id this may help too
[03:10] <Shaba1> damn I scrolled up and did not realize it
[03:10] <DriversFixed> wildbat:  For proper fakeRAID support, do sudo apt-get install dmraid, then sudo dmraid -a yese
[03:10] <dimas_> what is that pacman thing for installations?
[03:10] <DriversFixed> *yes
[03:10] <maxxist> Pierrick584: I am going to try.  I just wanted to see if anyone had been through it.  I would think that sdcards are quick at reading. definately more power efficient.
[03:10] <Shaba1> ok my question again:
[03:11] <Shaba1> I was in the channel about 10 minutes ago and xchat/ubuntu/wubi just froze. I had to power off an power back on
[03:11] <w33dr0id> thanx bazhang!
[03:11] <bazhang> dimas_, pacman is archlinux not ubuntu
[03:11] <Pierrick584> Good luck with it maxx!
[03:11] <Shaba1> is there some way I can find out why?
[03:11] <dimas_> oke
[03:11] <ubuntunoobie2903> Does anyone know how to get a window to minimize when you click on an icon?
[03:11] <bazhang> dimas_, you want apt-get
[03:11] <Pierrick584> so, no one got an idea for my hdmi issue?
[03:12] <bazhang> !apt | dimas_
[03:12] <Hyperkill> Anyone else think that Unity is a POS?
[03:12] <DriversFixed> hyperkill:  It needs a ton of work, but it's a step forward imo
[03:12] <bazhang> Hyperkill, thats not  a support question
[03:12] <Pierrick584> uh, what is POS?
[03:12] <xrdodrx> Hyperkill, I'm sure some people do, but no one is forcing you to use it
[03:12] <maxxist> point of sale?
[03:12] <rww> Hyperkill: #ubuntu is for actual support questions. Try #ubuntu-offtopic for opinions.
[03:12] <DriversFixed> pierrick584:  piece of S***
[03:12] <Pierrick584> lawl
[03:12] <Cameron904> installed the new version of flash, still doesn't work
[03:12] <duvel> May I ask the best mp3 player for ubuntu when using gnome? 10.04 LTS :) Thank you!
[03:12] <sw0rdfish> lawl indeed Pierrick584
[03:13] <Cameron904> pierick584: point of solitude
[03:13] <xangua> !best | duvel
[03:13] <Pierrick584> duvel, rythmbox witch is the default one is great
[03:13] <bazhang> duvel, no best. check the players factoid for suggestions though
[03:13] <bazhang> !players | duvel
[03:13] <ubuntunoobie2903> Anyone know how to minimize a window by clicking on an icon?
[03:13] <xangua> Pierrick584: the default now is banshe
[03:13] <Pierrick584> he said 10.04 though
[03:13] <dimas_> i belive there is a way to integrate pulseaudio with jack but because ubuntu only support pulseaudio the ability to integrate with jack had been dissable on the ubuntu package for what i had to work it out around myself...although i would like to ask here is someone had manake to get it to work?
[03:14] <bazhang> dimas_, the pulseaudio you installed with root in your home folder?
[03:14] <DriversFixed> ubuntunoobie2903:  I'm not sure what is the issue.  Does the icon that looks like a minus sign not minimize windows?
[03:15] <bazhang> duvel, try some, see what you prefer
[03:15] <Pierrick584> how could i manualy change the audio driver setup?
[03:15] <Pierrick584> cant remember where it is
[03:15] <dimas_> bazhang i already installed it but i was creating modules for jack with a source package to intagrate jack with it
[03:15] <ubuntunoobie2903> I want to be able to click an icon to minimize it. I'd like to move the taskbar to the bottom and be able to minimize a window by clicking on it.
[03:16] <dimas_> althoug upon the instructions i had read none of them work but they are old
[03:16] <bazhang> dimas_, there is no reason to install a single .point difference as ubuntu already uses .9.2.2
[03:16] <DriversFixed> ubuntunoobie2903:  Are you using unity or classic?
[03:16] <ubuntunoobie2903> 11.04
[03:17] <dimas_> bazhang but the ubunto package dont have module-jack-sink or module-jack-source which are necessary to integrate jack
[03:17] <hydester> does anybody know if suspend/hibernate problems can occur when NOT using the broadcom STA driver?  i used to use it in maverick but didn't need it for natty, but suspend/hibernate now crash (hibernate) or reboot (suspend) on resume
[03:18] <DriversFixed> ubuntunoobie2903:  By taskbar, you mean the top bar or the left side bar?
[03:18] <bluemako> hi so i'm trying to install the flash plugin for firefox and i don't have sudo permission to copy it to plugins directory, so like what's the terminal procedure to do so?
[03:18] <ubuntunoobie2903> I mean the bar currently on the left that has icons for all the programs I have open
[03:18] <VonhintenHOME`> What's the story with XDMCP and Natty?
[03:18] <bazhang> dimas_, then you are installing an unsupported version.
[03:18] <bluemako> is it like sudo cp Desktop/file_name then...
[03:18] <ubuntunoobie2903> I'd like to move that bar to the bottom
[03:18] <bazhang> VonhintenHOME`, please ask a clearer question
[03:18] <ubuntunoobie2903> and be able to min/max a window by clicking on the icon
[03:19] <dimas_> bazhang if you get to work IDJC having pulseaudio installed in your system then i kiss your ass...lol
[03:19] <bazhang> ubuntunoobie2903, there is not ability to do that in unity at present
[03:19] <bazhang> dimas_, no need for that language
[03:19] <VonhintenHOME`> There doesn't seem to be a way to login to a remote X server
[03:19] <duvel> I remember trying an Ubuntu mp3 player that had the lyrics of songs in one of the box's, which mp3 player is that?
[03:19] <ubuntunoobie2903> bazhang: Really?
[03:20] <bazhang> ubuntunoobie2903, yes
[03:20] <ubuntunoobie2903> ridiculous
[03:20] <bazhang> duvel, amarok is one such. there may be others with the various plugins installed
[03:20] <duvel> Ah, thank you. :)
[03:20] <dimas_> bazhang i have two pieces of softwares from ubuntu that i will like to have them working...would you be so kind to help me with them?
[03:21] <bazhang> duvel, although its a kde app, it works fine with gnome
[03:21] <duvel> Does Amarok still run like crap though?
[03:21] <duvel> It used to crash non-stop.
[03:21] <xrdodrx> duvel, Amarok is pretty buggy for me too, I use clementine instead
[03:21] <xrdodrx> it's a fork of an older version of amarok without all the KDE crap
[03:21] <bazhang> duvel, it has had a lot of upgrades/fixes try it and see
[03:22] <duvel> xrdodrx: thanks, and bazhang: I will.
[03:22] <DriversFixed> Can someone watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxNUK3U73SI for me and tell me whether the driver issue thingies is an effect the maker put in on purpose, or whether its actually my graphics card having issues
[03:22] <DriversFixed> Because it's about overheating cpus, it might actually be intentional...
[03:22] <ubuntunoobie2903> Is Unity still in beta?
[03:23] <dimas_> had someone been able to have pulseaudio and jack working together?
[03:23] <KM0201> ubuntunoobie2903: no.. id on't think so.
[03:23] <bluemako> hello?
[03:23] <dusf_>  i cannot get past my login screen, i select my username and enter my password, the login window disappears for a minute and just shows the background, the screen flickers black, and then it asks me for the password again - i have tried restarting a few times. how can i fix this?
[03:23] <duvel> DriversFixed: That video is effed. lol.
[03:24] <KM0201> dusf_: umm. i had that problem the other day and i had to reconfigure something, lemme find what i did.
[03:24] <DriversFixed> duvel:  tyvm lol
[03:24] <xangua> xrdodrx duvel: clementine is not a fork, it just inspired from amarok 1.4
[03:24] <duvel> DriversFixed: np, I'm gonna double check it on my iphone just in case it's ubuntu.
[03:24] <uhohuhoh> Hello! I am in trouble, and an Ubuntu newbie, when my computer starts up, I don't get the normal Grub screen, but I get "error unknown filesystem" and then a "grub rescue>" console thing
[03:24] <Skeeter-> i am unable to install grub with my ubuntu lvm
[03:24] <uhohuhoh> Could anyone please help me out?
[03:24] <ubuntunoobie2903> Well it should be if you can't move the toolbar
[03:25] <xrdodrx> xangua, oh, they're so similar I must have been confused :)
[03:25] <dusf_>  i cannot get past my login screen, i select my username and enter my password, the login window disappears for a minute and just shows the background, the screen flickers black, and then it asks me for the password again - i have tried restarting a few times. how can i fix this? caps lock is off, password is correct - and i know how the window behaves when i misenter the password - this is
[03:25] <dusf_> not it
[03:25] <DriversFixed> ubuntunoobie2903:  Although since playing around with ccsm will hang ubuntu, yeah... it isn't as mature as it should be
[03:26] <duvel> DriversFixed: Looks like it runs perfectly fine in my iphone.... I think it may be flash drivers. Are you running 64 bit by any chance?
[03:26] <jaimekristene> hi Ubuntuers.  In Unity, how do I get the left hand menu, with terminal icon, to open a new terminal, rather than keep opening my existing terminal?
[03:27] <KM0201> dusf_: listen carefully... control +alt +f1, that will take you to a console.. sign in w/ your account, then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"  let it do its thing, then when you're back at the prompt, sudo reboot -h now   when you restart, you should be able to sign in
[03:27] <DriversFixed> duvel:  Wait, it actually is Ubuntu?  Yah, 64 bit
[03:27] <duvel> Yeah.. It looks perfectly fine in my iPhone. It's the flash drivers.
[03:27] <jaimekristene> Infact I want all applications to always open a new one rather than to take me to the old one
[03:27] <duvel> I've never seen a youtube video do that before... Weird.
[03:28] <kiichiro> Hey I got a few questions if no one minds
[03:28] <DriversFixed> duvel:  That was really ironic, a video about overheating - which can produce those exact errors - has those errors caused by flash on linux
[03:28] <DriversFixed> duvel:  Where would we report that
[03:29] <duvel> DriversFixed: No idea man.
[03:29] <VonhintenHOME`> Does 11.04 support running as an XDMCP server, and does it support logging in to a remote XDMCP server?
[03:29] <duvel> DriversFixed: yeah.. That video is DEFINITELY effed up.
[03:29] <uhohuhoh> Guys, I'm in "grub rescue>" mode right now, I think my linux partition is messed, can I still load one of my windows partitions?
[03:29] <roasted> Just to rehash something, Ubuntu has no firewall by default, does it?
[03:29] <KM0201> VonhintenHOME`: xdmcp.. isn't that basically for remote desktop?.. if so, i don't see why it couldn't, if you install the right apps, etc
[03:30] <bazhang> roasted, iptables
[03:30] <qin> roasted: Have, iptables, but not configured
[03:30] <bazhang> roasted, gufw if you need a gui
[03:30] <duvel> DriversFixed: should find someone running ubuntu 32 bit and ask them to view it, and see if they have the same blocking/distortion that we do.
[03:30] <dork> hi
[03:31] <VonhintenHOME`> KM0201, well, apparently it was integrated before, now all the dialogs for configuring the system for remote access are gone, and I can't figure out what the story is
[03:31] <roasted> bazhang, just curious cause someone just told me their default install wouldn't let them on the internet due to the firewall blocking but I was like, uh what? I didn't think ubuntu had one by default so I wanted to double check.
[03:31] <DriversFixed> Hey peeps, anyone running ubuntu 32-bit?  Please watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxNUK3U73SI and see if there's an issue with the video
[03:31] <uhohuhoh> Could anyone help me out? I'm trying to see if I can load a Windows partition of mine from Grub's rescue mode....
[03:31] <DriversFixed> There's some distortion thingy going on
[03:31] <bluemako> ok what comes before usr in filesystem structure?
[03:31] <bluemako> like what would the path for it be
[03:32] <uhohuhoh> Anyone?
[03:32] <uhohuhoh> Sigh.
[03:32] <VonhintenHOME`> DriversFixed, looks like bad encoding
[03:32] <qin> bluemako: /usr ?
[03:32] <DriversFixed> VonhintenHOME':  duvel just watched it on his iphone, no issues
[03:33] <bluemako> yeah as in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[03:33] <DriversFixed> maybe I should pop over to a different distro's channel and ask them too
[03:33] <VonhintenHOME`> let me see on my iphone
[03:33] <bazhang> roasted, more like their ISP, though I'd need more particulars if you choose to share
[03:33] <VonhintenHOME`> I'm runnign 64bit firefox 5
[03:33] <uhohuhoh> So no one can help me, yes?
[03:34] <wildbat> uhohuhoh: what you need?
[03:34] <KM0201> DriversFixed: video looks fine to me.
[03:34] <uhohuhoh> wildbat: I'm stuck in Grub's rescue mode
[03:34] <DriversFixed> KM0201:  On ubuntu?  weird
[03:35] <DriversFixed> Eh I'll report it and call it a day....
[03:35] <uhohuhoh> wildbat: when I hit ls, all I can see is msdos partitions, no linux partitions
[03:35] <KM0201> why is that weird?
[03:35] <uhohuhoh> wildbat: so I'm wondering if I can somehow still load into one of the msdos partitions?
[03:35] <wildbat> uhohuhoh: did you use WUBI?
[03:35] <VonhintenHOME`> DriversFixed, my iphone is showing the same kind of distortion, only not as bad
[03:35] <uhohuhoh> wildbat: no, I was using ubuntu-minimal
[03:35] <DriversFixed> Vonhintenhome:  Odd
[03:35] <KM0201> VonhintenHOME`: where is it distorted?.. there's a couple spots of the video that were distorted, but not the whole thing
[03:35] <VonhintenHOME`> it's an iphone 3g
[03:36] <wildbat> uhohuhoh: but you don't have any linux partition ....
[03:36] <uhohuhoh> wildbat: yeah, which is the *really* messed up thing
[03:36] <VonhintenHOME`> The whole thing isn't distorted on my phone or ubuntu, the video is fine until the title screens show up, then it cycles through distortion, then it refreshes and fixes itself
[03:36] <bluemako> i thought it would be an easy answer
[03:36] <nit-wit> uhohuhoh, you can reload the mbr to load the MS it sounds like do you have a disc?
[03:37] <VonhintenHOME`> usually means the video encoding was set up wrong so it isn't expecting much movement
[03:37] <Te3-BloodyIron> where can i find the nfs logs? i can't find them at all
[03:37] <uhohuhoh> nit-wit: The disk for the windows? No, not on me. I installed it from a USB (I got it free from university as an iso)
[03:38] <nit-wit> uhohuhoh, which windows release is it?
[03:38] <uhohuhoh> nit-wit: Windows 7
[03:38] <wildbat> uhohuhoh:  so, you wanna load your windows back?
[03:38] <uhohuhoh> Yes!
[03:38] <uhohuhoh> That would be good enough for now :/
[03:38] <uhohuhoh> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub-disk/
[03:38] <nit-wit> uhohuhoh, you can poad the mbr with lilo and you will boot to windows directly if every.thing s in order.
[03:38] <uhohuhoh> I'm thinking of using that...Super Grub Disk?
[03:39] <nit-wit> *load
[03:39] <Te3-BloodyIron> can anyone point me to where nfs logs errors in ubuntu? please?
[03:39] <uhohuhoh> nit-wit: lilo? Is that a piece of software?
[03:39] <uhohuhoh> nit-wit: Do I have the right thing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LILO_(boot_loader)
[03:39] <wildbat> uhohuhoh: unless you have grub installed in the ntfs ~ or you will have to bootCD to fix it ~ either supergrub , liveCD, or to revert back to M$ default with windows CD
[03:40] <nit-wit> uhohuhoh, lilo is a older bootloader it is on a regular ubuntu live cd, but you used a minimal, do you have a regular live cd.
[03:40] <uhohuhoh> nit-wit: Nope, don't have a regular one.
[03:40] <uhohuhoh> nit-wit: could make one I suppose...
[03:40] <roasted> bazhang, I have nothing to share at the moment, as the user is doing a third shift right now. this was just some basic back-and-forth texting on the matter.
[03:40] <nit-wit> uhohuhoh, actually the live is used to get lilo from a repo.
[03:41] <bazhang> nit-wit, grub2
[03:41] <uhohuhoh> nit-wit, wildbat: what about supergrub? Could that just do the trick?
[03:41] <bazhang> uhohuhoh, nit-wit grub2 is what we support here
[03:41] <bluemako> qin/ hello?
[03:41] <nit-wit> bazhang, not sure of how far they got with the minimal.
[03:41] <qin> bluemako: Yup?
[03:42] <uhohuhoh> bazhang: it's great that you support grub2, I just kind of need to return my computer to working order though...
[03:42] <uhohuhoh> bazhang: Does it matter which tool I use?
[03:42] <nit-wit> bazhang, I would only suggest lilo when there seems to be no grub distro install and no MS disc to load the mbr.
[03:42] <bluemako> i'm trying to copy the a plugin for firefox from my desktop to plugins folder, so i try sudo cp Desktop/file usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[03:42] <bluemako> but than it tells me that's not right, so what am i missing?
[03:43] <qin> /usr/li....
[03:43] <qin> Slash
[03:43] <bluemako> that's all...ugh
[03:43] <Te3-BloodyIron> can anyone point me to where nfs logs errors in ubuntu? please?
[03:43] <Te3-BloodyIron> or maybe help me with my nfs issue?
[03:44] <bluemako> thanks...it worked.
[03:45] <dusf_> i cannot login. after i select my username and enter my password with caps lock off the window disappears then the screen flickers black for an instant and ask me for my password again. it does not mention authentication failure, and using the same password i can login to the root shell using the recovery console. how can i fix this?
[03:45] <qin> Te3-BloodyIron: Either man nfs or ls /var/log or locate nfs
[03:45] <DriversFixed> Be back later.
[03:45] <qin> dusf_: df -h form console
[03:45] <qin> from*
[03:46] <usr13> did you forget password?
[03:46] <usr13> or user name?
[03:46] <usr13> dusf_:
[03:46] <qin> Rather his /tmp or /home is full
[03:47] <dusf_> qin: i will have to boot into ubuntu to do that
[03:47] <dusf_> writing it down
[03:47] <KM0201> dusf_: i told you above how to fix that
[03:47] <dusf_> usr13: no, as i said i select my username, and the password i use lets me into the root shell
[03:47] <dork> hi
[03:47] <wildbat> uhohuhoh: it depends what did you did.
[03:47] <dusf_> KM0201: i just logged in here, so i have no above
[03:48] <KM0201> dusf_: listen carefully... but normal mode on ubuntu, when you get to the login screen, control +alt +f1, that will take you to a console.. sign in w/ your account, then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"  let it do its thing, then when you're back at the prompt, sudo reboot -h now   when you restart, you should be able to sign in
[03:48] <coz_> ok guys  I have a very odd problem,, after clean install;. copied directories into home from external drive/ flash drive.  on the system many of the files,, namely svg an png images icons,, are corrupt,, cannot be opened,,
[03:48] <usr13> qin: Was that about dusf_ ?
[03:48] <uhohuhoh> wildbat: Sigh, I'm goign to give it a try.
[03:48] <qin> usr13: Yes
[03:48] <uhohuhoh> wildbat: I don't think Ubuntu is for me.
[03:48] <usr13> dusf_: df
[03:48] <coz_> so  I deleted them and checked the files on the flash drive as well as an external HD  with the same files...they were ifne so  copied them back into home
[03:48] <Te3-BloodyIron> qin: i just read through the man for nfs, couldn't find the log location. i tried poking around /var/log and couldn't find the right folder
[03:48] <usr13> dusf_: and scroll up
[03:48] <Te3-BloodyIron> im sure its being logged, but i suspect im not getting the right name
[03:49] <coz_> however,, the same identical images are corrupt in home but not on external drives
[03:49] <dusf_> usr13: yes what i posted for qin was meant for you
[03:49] <dusf_> usr13: i read what you said
[03:49] <dusf_> 'df'?
[03:49] <duvel> DriversFixed: I was using iPhone 4. Not sure that it matters. I had zero distortion. Oh well :\
[03:49] <Te3-BloodyIron> qin: the only /var/log/n* item is news, no nfs as far as it is telling me
[03:49] <dusf_> KM0201: thanks, writing that down
[03:49] <wildbat> uhohuhoh: it isn't like that ~ it is just it is your first time , i think ~
[03:49] <qin> Te3-BloodyIron: Ok, auth.log for sure, syslog maybe, let me see if its have native log
[03:49] <duvel> Oh, he left.
[03:51] <Te3-BloodyIron> qin: i havn't dealt with syslog just yet
[03:51] <qin> Te3-BloodyIron: Try to grep also messages
[03:52] <qin> Te3-BloodyIron: nfs do not run own logs
[03:52] <Te3-BloodyIron> qin: so the problem is im trying to setup a nfs share, but it's not telling me why it wont mount
[03:53] <Te3-BloodyIron> the only feedback i have is
[03:53] <Te3-BloodyIron> mount.nfs4: access denied by server while mounting 10.0.0.48:/var/lib/tftboot
[03:54] <Scribbled2x> I am not sure if I am coming to the right spot - here is the situation.  I made a disk using ext2 file system several (11) years ago.  Back when people actually liked using the whole command prompt thing :(?  Now - I tried to mount the disk, but it will not mount the disk.  I made several of them, so one of them should have mounted - they are well maintained and have no serious scratches.  dmesg states that the blocksize is too small?
[03:55] <qin> Te3-BloodyIron: sshfs is simpler, and based on ssh key
[03:55] <Te3-BloodyIron> qin: i'm trying to use nfs for a pxe boot server i'm trying to make
[03:55] <Scribbled2x> if someone has some / any ideas it would be greatly appreciated
[03:56] <rww> Scribbled2x: what's the exact error you're getting?
[03:56] <dee27> how much kbits would equal to 8 mbits
[03:56] <dee27> ?
[03:56] <Scribbled2x> it says wrong filesystem type, so I used the -t ext2; but it still will not mount it.
[03:56] <rww> dee27: 8192
[03:56] <Te3-BloodyIron> qin: every howto i read makes it appear easy to use, but i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong
[03:56] <bazhang> dee27, thats hardly an ubuntu issue
[03:57] <maujhsn> I am looking for website data extraction tool in linux anybody know of ant packages!
[03:57] <bazhang> maujhsn, data scraper?
[03:57] <Scribbled2x> I know it is ext2 - 3 hadn't been released and I was wondering if something had changed in the way that the filesystems are read by the kernel
[03:57] <dee27> thanks
[03:57] <daftykins> 8192 dee27
[03:57] <qin> Te3-BloodyIron: nfs is not me
[03:58] <maujhsn> bazhang Thanks!
[03:58] <Te3-BloodyIron> qin: nuts, have you dealt with PXE boot with sshfs?
[03:58] <soreau> Scribbled2x: You might need to set the blocksize with bs=value
[03:58] <soreau> Scribbled2x: See man mount
[03:58] <qin> Te3-BloodyIron: Not really
[03:58] <Te3-BloodyIron> qin: alright, well thanks anyways
[03:59] <Scribbled2x> I actually tried that but I think I entered it wrong  - here is going to be the fun part - figuring out what block size to put in  -- was thinking 1024, but not sure now its been so long
[03:59] <Scribbled2x> thank you soreau
[03:59] <soreau> Scribbled2x: Hope you get to access your time capsule ;)
[03:59] <maujhsn> bazhang why did you did you pose your comment as a question!
[03:59] <Scribbled2x> lol
[04:00] <Scribbled2x> awesome
[04:00] <Te3-BloodyIron> can someone help me with nfs? i'm getting an access denied when trying to mount a share
[04:00] <soreau> worked?
[04:00] <bazhang> maujhsn, to clarify what you were asking about
[04:01] <maujhsn> bazhang email extraction, phone numbers etc
[04:02] <fuzzeoly> is there anyway to automatically boot into "failsafe graphics mode" without having to go into recovery?
[04:02] <soreau> fuzzeoly: Automatically? What are you trying to do exactly?
[04:03] <Te3-BloodyIron> can someone help me with nfs? i'm getting an access denied when trying to mount a share
[04:03] <fizyplankton> Te3-BloodyIron: use sudo before the command
[04:03] <Te3-BloodyIron> i did
[04:03] <fizyplankton> are you a sudoer?
[04:04] <fuzzeoly> soreau: well, ubuntu won't boot up with my graphics adapter, i've tried everything, except in failsafe graphics mode. I'm wondering if i can edit the boot in some way, like "nomodeset" but so it boots into failsafe graphics mode
[04:04] <Te3-BloodyIron> pardon?
[04:04] <fuzzeoly> soreau: so i don't have to go "start recovery mode" than "boot in failsafe graphics mode"
[04:04] <fizyplankton> are you the only user on your machine?
[04:04] <soreau> fuzzeoly: ah.. so it works with nomodeset?
[04:04] <Te3-BloodyIron> yes this system is an isolated VM
[04:04] <Te3-BloodyIron> im just logged in as root to test the nfs server is working
[04:05] <fuzzeoly> soreau: no, it doesn't work with nomodeset. I'm just wondering if there is a boot option like nomodeset but for failsafe graphics mode.
[04:05] <Te3-BloodyIron> im trying to setup a PXE boot server, and trying to use NFS for it
[04:05] <soreau> fuzzeoly: Is it intel?
[04:05] <fizyplankton> Te3-BloodyIron: try something simple with sudo, like "gksudo nautilus"
[04:05] <fuzzeoly> soreau: matrox?
[04:06] <Te3-BloodyIron> i tried it, but i dont see how this has anything to do with my nfs issues
[04:06] <fuzzeoly> soreau: 2024W i think
[04:06] <soreau> fuzzeoly: Well you could create an xorg.conf with Driver "vesa", assuming it doesn't fail until it goes to start X
[04:06] <fizyplankton> Te3-BloodyIron: if it works, that proves you are a sudoer. try "sudo -i" then type in your command then make SURE to type "logout" once your command is finished
[04:07] <Te3-BloodyIron> ...
[04:07] <fuzzeoly> soreau: yeah it fails, it never configured a xorg and i tried to do it manually but it won't work.
[04:07] <soreau> fuzzeoly: What did you try that isn't working?
[04:07] <fizyplankton> Te3-BloodyIron: sudo -i logs you into the root account. that should clear up any access issues
[04:07] <Te3-BloodyIron> im already logged in as root
[04:07] <Te3-BloodyIron> ...
[04:08] <fuzzeoly> soreau: well i tried to manually install video drivers when i boot up in failsafe mode but i can't make a xorg.conf to tell the system to use the new drivers
[04:08] <soreau> fuzzeoly: Why not?
[04:09] <fizyplankton> Te3-BloodyIron: there is no root account in ubuntu. type "echo $USER" and tell me what it says
[04:10] <dusf> KM0201: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm immediatley gave another bash prompt but i reboot -h anyway. it did not fix the problem
[04:10] <Te3-BloodyIron> yes there is
[04:10] <KM0201> hmm
[04:10] <Te3-BloodyIron> sudo su puts me into root
[04:10] <fuzzeoly> soreau: couldn't connect to x server. I don't even think the install of the os completed properly because it failed on firstboot
[04:10] <Te3-BloodyIron> then passwd lets me change the root password
[04:10] <Te3-BloodyIron> then control d to log out
[04:10] <fizyplankton> Te3-BloodyIron: dont use su. its a bad idea
[04:10] <Te3-BloodyIron> then su to escallate again
[04:10] <Te3-BloodyIron> and i enter the password
[04:10] <Te3-BloodyIron> and im in root
[04:10] <FloodBot1> Te3-BloodyIron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:10] <dusf> KM0201: i'm logged into a tty right now with the same password
[04:10] <Te3-BloodyIron> this is _strictly for testing purposes_ not for long term use
[04:10] <KM0201> Te3-BloodyIron: thats pretty dumb, ubuntu uses sudo for a reason.
[04:10] <soreau> fuzzeoly: Well did you try creating an xorg.conf with a Device section and Driver "vesa"?
[04:10] <Te3-BloodyIron> look, im trying to get help with nfs
[04:10] <Te3-BloodyIron> not get lectured about security practices
[04:11] <Te3-BloodyIron> can i please get some nfs help?
[04:11] <soreau> fuzzeoly: That should at least do what you originally asked for
[04:11] <fizyplankton> Te3-BloodyIron: i know. and you need root access to install it
[04:11] <Te3-BloodyIron> nfs is already installed
[04:11] <Te3-BloodyIron> i have the server running
[04:11] <dusf> KM0201: should i be trying to reconfigure something other than gdm since i use xfce?
[04:11] <fizyplankton> not installed. mounted. my bad
[04:11] <KM0201> dusf: did you do anything to precipitate this?.. install graphics drivers, or whatever?
[04:11] <bazhang> !enter | Te3-BloodyIron
[04:11] <KM0201> dusf: would have been helpful if you mentioned using gdm
[04:11] <KM0201> *xfce
[04:12] <dusf> KM0201: will i try the same with xfce instead of gdm?
[04:12] <Te3-BloodyIron> from what i can tell the access denied is on the server end, not because of the user i'm logged in as. the problem is i can't determine why it's denying me
[04:12] <Te3-BloodyIron> as in, the daemon
[04:12] <KM0201> dusf: probably, but i'm not 100%
[04:12] <dusf> KM0201: if  you were me you would tho, right? :)
[04:12] <temptest> Hey guys I just downloaded polipo fresh, but when I try to run the daemon it fails, can anybody help me out?
[04:12] <fizyplankton> what command are you using to mount the nfs?
[04:12] <KM0201> dusf: if i were you, i'd have told people i was using xfce from the beginning
[04:13] <dusf> KM0201: that ship has sailed, my bad
[04:13] <Te3-BloodyIron> mount ip:/var/log/tftboot test
[04:13] <Te3-BloodyIron> is one im using
[04:13] <fuzzeoly> soreau: i think i did but i couldn't even configure a new xorg.conf in terminal. Maybe i'll try again. I just thought maybe i could add something to the boot kernel. I installed an old ubuntu that works now but i hate it. Maybe i'll end up just getting a new cheap graphics card.
[04:13] <dusf> KM0201: trying it
[04:13] <Te3-BloodyIron> mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 ip:/var/lib/tftboot test
[04:13] <Te3-BloodyIron> is another
[04:13] <KM0201> ..
[04:14] <soreau> fuzzeoly: I will post an xorg.conf you can use
[04:14] <fuzzeoly> soreau: ok, thanks.
[04:14] <fizyplankton> Te3-BloodyIron: log out of root, so that you are in your shell, and sudo that. logging in to root is only a last resort. su or sudo -i is like going after a fly with a bazooka
[04:14] <OSXBen> Hoping some here has some experience booting ubuntu as a iso from a usb flash drive
[04:15] <bazhang> OSXBen, with unetbootin?
[04:15] <dusf> KM0201: it says xfce is not installed when i try that
[04:15] <OSXBen> no with grub-efi on a mac
[04:15] <syntaxx> hi.. i have quad monitor setup in my ubuntu 10.04 however it hangs once in awhile and had to reboot my machine. i am using nvidia nvs 295 any idea?
[04:15] <KM0201> dusf: what did you type?
[04:16] <soreau> fuzzeoly: Put this in /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/VtPZVTRf
[04:16] <OSXBen> bazhang, no with grub-efi on a mac, pulling my hair out, having worked out all the GPT/MBR and EFI issues and now having grub being the last problem to solve
[04:17] <dusf> KM0201: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xfce
[04:17] <KM0201> dusf: thats not gonna do anything, i could have told you that
[04:17] <fuzzeoly> soreau: ok, thanks soreau. Here's hoping it will boot.
[04:17] <soreau> fuzzeoly: me too :)
[04:18] <dusf> KM0201: i thought you said probably when i asked if i should do it a minute ago :)
[04:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> okay well now that ive been thoroughly lectured about security and not actually been given help, im going to look elsewhere
[04:18] <KM0201> no.. you said "does it matter if i have xfce" and i said.. "probably"
[04:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> thanks for your time
[04:18] <dusf> KM0201: ah okay
[04:18] <KM0201> dusf: only other thing you could try (at least that i know of) is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:18] <dusf> KM0201: so we can't just replace gdm with whatever xfce uses for the reconfigure command
[04:19] <KM0201> dusf: gdm is "Gnome Display Manager"...
[04:19] <severusda> somebody speak spanish?????
[04:19] <dusf> KM0201: okay, and then reboot -h again?
[04:19] <KM0201> yes
[04:19] <dusf> okay ty brb
[04:19] <bazhang> dusf, is your home perhaps nearly full? per qin 's suggestion?
[04:19] <Dan39> is there place i can download files used for creating package in repos? like if i want to recompile something myself and install it as package...
[04:19] <bazhang> Dan39, using checkinstall?
[04:19] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[04:19] <computerwiz_222> Does anyone here have experience with svgalib?
[04:20] <severusda> who speak spanish, cause i need help with wifi driver
[04:20] <bazhang> severusda, #ubuntu-es for spanish
[04:20] <tsimpson> !es | severusda
[04:20] <bullgard4> !es | severusda
[04:20] <Dan39> bazhang: huh? no.. dont think so
[04:20] <bazhang> computerwiz_222, whats the real question
[04:20] <bazhang> !checkinstall | Dan39 have a read
[04:21] <Dan39> o awsome
[04:21] <dusf> KM0201: no change. could it be a disk space issue?
[04:21] <computerwiz_222> bazhang: I am trying to do some low level vga coding and my code executes on my server but not on my netbook
[04:21] <bazhang> dusf, is your home folder perhaps nearly full, per qin 's suggestion?
[04:21] <KM0201> dusf: i wouldn't think so.
[04:21] <Dan39> bazhang: that looks like itll do exactly what i want :D
[04:22] <KM0201> i guess it could be..
[04:22] <computerwiz_222> bazhang: my server has a TNT2 RIVA and my netbook has integrated intel
[04:22] <dusf> bazhang: i have my system directories split across different partitions
[04:22] <KM0201> but i never had that prob due to a full disk.
[04:22] <Dan39> thanks :D
[04:22] <dusf> bazhang: checking now with df -h
[04:22] <KM0201> ..
[04:22] <bazhang> no need to reboot dusf
[04:22] <KM0201> guy should just fire up nano in console...lol
[04:22] <bazhang> whoops
[04:22] <KM0201> *irssi
[04:23] <KM0201> bazhang: i hink he's booting windows to talk to us.
[04:23] <Dan39> will checkinstall also like... upgrade a package? or should i uninstall a package doing it?
[04:23] <bazhang> KM0201, okay makes more sense
[04:23] <fizyplankton> KM0201: irssi FTW!!!
[04:23] <Dan39> before
[04:23] <KM0201> fizyplankton: i just cna't get used to it.
[04:23] <computerwiz_222> fizyplankton: yeah, i had some issues with fstab once, ran irssi as root for a couple minutes and these guys saved me :D
[04:23] <bazhang> Dan39, you'd need to upgrade it yourself
[04:24] <fizyplankton> computerwiz_222: i have xorg alll booted up and everything, but im still using irssi
[04:24] <computerwiz_222> fizyplankton: yeah, i usually have irssi running in a screen session, somewhere
[04:24] <fizyplankton> it fist well in a screen session
[04:24] <fizyplankton> lol!
[04:24] <bazhang> Dan39, otherwise just use package management to handle everything
[04:25] <dusf> bazhang: dev/sd8/ 96% full - 1.4gb avail - /home
[04:25] <computerwiz_222> fizyplankton: there is nothing like looking super busy by having irssi open -- to the average idiot it looks like you're hardcore hacking
[04:25] <dusf> bazhang: /home/dusf/.Private 96% full - 1.5gb avail - /home/dusf
[04:25] <computerwiz_222> i take it that svgalib is probably a lost cause... it doesn't run on my laptop with geforce 8400M either
[04:25] <bazhang> dusf, time to back up and remove some of that then?
[04:25] <Dan39> let me read the article before i ask anything else haha...
[04:25] <dusf> bazhang: i store all my media etc on /media/dusf
[04:26] <fizyplankton> computerwiz_222: wrong. three is nothing more hacking-looking than a split-screenes screen session wiith irssi running in one of like 10 panes
[04:26] <unknowndansai> sup
[04:26] <computerwiz_222> fizyplankton: god - i want that
[04:26] <unknowndansai> hahaha
[04:26] <dusf> bazhang: it's all system files, what can i safely remove jsut so i can log in and i will gparted extend it later?
[04:26] <bazhang> unknowndansai, ubuntu support question?
[04:27] <unknowndansai> not really im just dicking around
[04:27] <fizyplankton> computerwiz_222: just type ^a S or ^a | in screen. to navigatre the panes, ^a tab. to remove a pane, ^a X
[04:27] <bazhang> unknowndansai, wrong place for that
[04:27] <computerwiz_222> fizyplankton: yeah, i really need to read the man pages
[04:27] <dusf> bazhang: also - how much free space do i need to be able to log in?
[04:27] <KM0201> bazhang: why would it not boot if he has 1.5gig remaining?
[04:27] <computerwiz_222> fizyplankton: when i discovered that you can name screen sessions i had a small party at my desk
[04:27] <bazhang> KM0201, the system reserves a certain amount, right?
[04:28] <unknowndansai> i am trying to run .exe from xubuntu
[04:28] <computerwiz_222> unknowndansai: get wine :P
[04:28] <bazhang> unknowndansai, then use wine
[04:28] <dusf> bazhang: if relevant i have a separate swap, opt, and some other system paritions
[04:28] <KM0201> bazhang: i dunno, when i've had this problem (including w/ lxde) i've always just reconfigured, and it all came back to life
[04:28] <unknowndansai> im downloading niw
[04:28] <unknowndansai> **now
[04:28] <bazhang> unknowndansai, check the appdb and /join #winehq
[04:28] <bazhang> !appd | unknowndansai
[04:28] <bazhang> whoops
[04:29] <bazhang> !appdb | unknowndansai
[04:29] <MicronXD> Hi all. I just finished an Ubuntu 11.04 install. everything went smoothly. I rebooted after the installation, and after logging in, an alert popped up saying something about unity not working. I installed the nVidia drivers and a compiz setting mgr. I unchecked Unity Plugin in the compiz settings mgr. "Reboot[ed] to finish update", and now I'm getting "mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth". any thoughts?
[04:30] <computerwiz_222> bazhang: that is a very nice bot, where can i  find docs about it?
[04:30] <bazhang> !factoids | computerwiz_222
[04:31] <dusf> bazhang: i can stand to lose call of duty modern warfare from my .wine dir - is the command rmdir -r ?
[04:31] <MicronXD> also, I'm not seeing the grub boot loader, so I'm not sure how to get into recovery mode o.0
[04:32] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[04:34] <glaksmono> how do you link the whole directories (contain files) into another folder?
[04:35] <xch> hi
[04:36] <dusf> glaksmono: i use symlink but don't have the exact command - google does tho
[04:36] <dusf> sorry i can't be more specific
[04:37] <MicronXD> !symlink
[04:38] <artik> hello
[04:39] <dusf> rmdir --help doesn't show the option to remove everything in the dir, even non empty dirs within
[04:39] <dusf> can anyone tell me the proper option?
[04:39] <Wally> perthentcent.com
[04:39] <dusf> i'm stuck in a tty and cannot access a web browser
[04:40] <ChogyDan2> dusf: rm -R
[04:40] <dusf> ChogyDan2: tyvm
[04:40] <MicronXD> rm -R
[04:40] <MicronXD> (for recursive i believe)
[04:40] <glaksmono> dusf: i trued looking for it, it keeps saying that i'm trying to link a folder
[04:40] <nexace> kde sometimes stop responding correctly to my touchpad movements on my notebook... is there some way to fix this or reset it?
[04:41] <dusf> bazhang: KM0201: i have 8.1gb free now, rebooting
[04:41] <KM0201> hmm
[04:41] <dusf> glaksmono: i'm sorry i cannot help you more, if you ask in here abotu symlinking i'm sure someone will
[04:41] <Scribbled2x> soreau: I tried passing 1024 to mount, but it didn't want to take it.  Then I read the man 8 page and it didnt have anything stating something about tune2fs, so I read that and tried to get it to work, but tune2fs had nothing in it regarding the blocksize, so then I figured I would add a line to the fstab for the drive and as one of the options use bs=1024, this failed as well.  So I was thinkin maybe I had a bad disk, but debugfs has n
[04:42] <soziety> hello, I am reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1619831, I need block internet access completly if vpn down, any idea?
[04:42] <Samushka> Hello #ubuntu, I am trying to load the e1000e kernel module for my Intel 82574L Ethernet cards on my Supermicro X7SPA-HF motherboard. When I use the 'lsmod' command, it shows the e1000e as having a 'used' value as 0 (ie: not being used)… I have entered e1000e in /etc/modules, and rebooted, but it's still showing used=0, any ideas? (Ubuntu Server 11.04)
[04:43] <soreau> Scribbled2x: When you open the mount man page, use type /blocksize to search for this string and scroll down with pgdown. The bs entry tells you what the valid entries are for bs
[04:43] <dusf> qin, KM0201, bazhang:  freeing up 8.1gb of space did not fix the problem
[04:43] <soreau> Scribbled2x: Other than the man page, I can't really offer any further help, sorry
[04:43] <ChogyDan2> glaksmono: it is something like ln -s
[04:43] <BiggFREE> Is UBUNTU 11.04 a stable version ?
[04:43] <Logan_> !11.04 | BiggFREE
[04:44] <xch> 谁教我学英语
[04:44] <Logan_> !zh | xch
[04:44] <BiggFREE> Logan_  ... Thanks
[04:44] <raksasa> dear all. i had installed ubuntu natty
[04:44] <raksasa> but i got problem of running background job as root
[04:45] <raksasa> it got an error
[04:45] <xch> who help me lern English?  very thank
[04:45] <dusf> i am unable to login to xfce. when i enter my correct password with capslock of it appears to accept it, the window disappears showing only the background screen/login wallpaper, then it flickers black and asks for my password again. i have tried sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg and freeing up space in my home partition to 8gb but none of this worked. how can i fix this?
[04:45] <xch> who help me lern English? very thank
[04:45] <xch> who help me lern English? very thank
[04:45] <ChogyDan2> dusf: have you checked your Xorg.0.log?
[04:45] <dusf> xch: google
[04:46] <qin> xch: nciku.com
[04:46] <dusf> ChogyDan2: can you give me a crash course how to please?
[04:46] <raksasa> can anyone help e
[04:46] <Scribbled2x> soreau its ok, I already found out that the blocksize is 1024, I am good there, the only entry in the man page for blocksize is under affs and adfs (those are new to me).  For ext2, 3, and 4 fsystems it says to use tune2fs which has no reference to blocksize in the man page. Doesn't mean it doesn't accept the parameter, just that it is not listed in the man page --- Eitherway - thank you, I appreciate the help.  At least I know the disk
[04:46] <xch> dush:   you?
[04:46] <glaksmono> i can't find from the internet zz
[04:46] <kiichiro> is there someone that could help me? need to automate my xubuntu box for a few days
[04:46] <AlezzStigma> Hi.
[04:46] <ChogyDan2> dusf: nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log     look towards the end
[04:46] <dusf> ChogyDan2: okay brb
[04:46] <soreau> Scribbled2x: I think you will figure it out :)
[04:46] <solid_liq> Scribbled2x, blocksize for those defaults to 4096
[04:46] <dusf> can't remember whether i left irssi running in screen
[04:46] <AlezzStigma> HElp me.
[04:46] <wslayer> do you have to use sudo to restart gdm?
[04:47] <AlezzStigma> Speak spanish?
[04:47] <qin> wslayer: Sudo service gdm restart
[04:47] <AlezzStigma> How do I go from version 9.04 to 11.04?
[04:47] <Scribbled2x> solid_liq I was thinking something to that effect although I didn't know about 4096, the question is how do I pass 1024 to mount so that it will mount just that CD correctly
[04:48] <AlezzStigma> How do I go from version 9.04 to 11.04?
[04:48] <kiichiro> download the update and burn to dvd
[04:48] <wslayer> qin: how do I make gdm start normally after boot?
[04:48] <MicronXD> Hi all. I just finished an Ubuntu 11.04 install. everything went smoothly. I rebooted after the installation, and after logging in, an alert popped up saying something about unity not working. I installed the nVidia drivers and a compiz setting mgr. I unchecked Unity Plugin in the compiz settings mgr. "Reboot[ed] to finish update", and now I'm getting "mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth". any thoughts?
[04:48] <xch> who help me lern English? very thank
[04:48] <xch> who help me lern English? very thank
[04:48] <ChogyDan2> AlezzStigma: if backing up and doing a clean install is an option, do that
[04:48] <MicronXD> xch: what is your native language?
[04:48] <solid_liq> Scribbled2x, I believe it's just   mount -o bs=1024   or something like that
[04:48] <glaksmono> ChogyDan2: yeah, that thing linked my folder but not the files :-/
[04:48] <kiichiro> I may be able to help
[04:49] <solid_liq> Scribbled2x, man mount
[04:49] <ChogyDan2> glaksmono: what do you mean?
[04:49] <Samushka> Hello #ubuntu, I am trying to load the e1000e kernel module for my Intel 82574L Ethernet cards on my Supermicro X7SPA-HF motherboard. When I use the 'lsmod' command, it shows the e1000e as having a 'used' value as 0 (ie: not being used)… I have entered e1000e in /etc/modules, and rebooted, but it's still showing used=0, any ideas? (Ubuntu Server 11.04)
[04:49] <xch> MicronXD:chinese
[04:49] <ugly_duck> upowerd sucks up resources man
[04:49] <xch> 中文
[04:49] <wslayer> is gdm required to start as root?
[04:49] <glaksmono> ChogyDan2: i meant it linked the folder, but when i changed the file content on the other one, it doens't reflect with the source file
[04:49] <wslayer> yes or no?
[04:50] <kiichiro> guessing chinese?
[04:50] <wslayer> and does gdm start as root on your ubuntu?
[04:50] <Scribbled2x> solid_liq - I have tried every variation of that and had no success.  I have read the manpages for mount 8, tune2fs, debugfs and still no luck -- thank you though for your input.  I will hang out for a few and see if I can figure this out.  I know there is a way and mount used to take -o bs=1024 because when I was creating the disks I had to enter it.
[04:50] <kiichiro> can someone help me make a way to automate my computer for a few days?
[04:51] <ChogyDan2> glaksmono: it is just a symlink, so it should be the same folder.  What you are saying shouldn't be possible.
[04:51] <dusf> ChogyDan2: i don't see any errors, the only mention of the word fail is 'failed to load grail - no gesture support'
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> kiichiro: You'll need to specify what you need to automate for someone to answer that.
[04:52] <kiichiro> I want to find a way to skip the auto login screen, start up a program and than shut off at midnight that same night. and I need it to run everytime the computer is turned on
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> then
[04:52] <qin> kiichiro: What program?
[04:53] <MicronXD> xch: darn... I only know Korean
[04:53] <MicronXD> xch: check out livemocha.com
[04:53] <dusf> ChogyDan: wb
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> kiichiro: You can use the login screen settings to automatically log in your user upon boot, then use the startup programs settings to run the program, and cron to shut it down at midnight.
[04:53] <dusf> ChogyDan2: i don't see any errors in the xorg log, the only mention of the word fail is 'failed to load grail - no gesture support'
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> easy peasy
[04:53] <wslayer> qin: can you help me to uninstall nvidia driver that`s not from package?
[04:53] <MicronXD> xch: http://cn.livemocha.com/
[04:54] <glaksmono> ChogyDan: then what's the point of linking? :-/
[04:54] <ChogyDan> dusf: yeah, sorry, I dunno
[04:54] <glaksmono> lol
[04:54] <kiichiro> the thing is I need to automate a java -jar command in the terminal
[04:54] <ChogyDan> glaksmono: what are you trying to do?
[04:55] <qin> wslayer: I have not used nvidia since ages, maybe too rusty here.
[04:55] <dusf> i am unable to login to xfce. after entering my correct password with caps lock off it appears to take it and the login popup disappears showing only the login background/wallpaper, then the screen flickers black and the popup reappears askign for the password again but not mentioning an auth failure as it does when i type it incorrectly. i am using the same password to use this tty. i have tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, freeing up 8gb of space on 
[04:55] <kiichiro> I also need to get it to issue a stop using terminal, well just type stop and than wait 60 seconds than shut down
[04:55] <wslayer> qin: ok then
[04:56] <qin> kiichiro: Is it server?
[04:56] <ugly_duck> its funny that no one knows about  the upowerd cpu issue
[04:57] <dusf> ChogyDan: nps ty for trying
[04:57] <dusf> ChogyDan: nps, ty for trying
[04:57] <wslayer> my ubuntu install is naked lol
[04:57] <qin> dusf: Can you login into tty1 and: xinit -- :1 vt8 ??
[04:58] <wslayer> canonical has to do a better job with netboot
[04:58] <dusf> qin: i'm in tty1 with irssi running in screen, do i just type 'xinit -- :1 vt8' in bash?
[04:58] <qin> dusf: then form tty2, this will give you xterm
[04:58] <dusf> qin: kk brb
[05:00] <wslayer> test
[05:00] <qin> dusf: There is chnace that you will see error from xserver, if not, in xterm: xfce4 (or something)
[05:00] <dusf> qin: entering that command after logging into tty2 gave me a strange white terminal taking up about an 8th of the screen in the top left, rest of the screen is black
[05:00] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[05:01] <kiichiro> how do I change it so I don't need to sign in?
[05:01] <dusf> qin: yes, seeing some errors here in tty1 now, but i can still read you
[05:01] <kiichiro> nvm
[05:01] <qin> dusf: Did you get xterm (under Alt-Ctrl-F8)?
[05:01] <dusf> qin: when i go back to tty2 now there's now a gui login popup asking me for password, but saying i'm currently logged in
[05:01] <wslayer> some guy here said there`s a gtk app to configure nvidia drivers
[05:02] <wslayer> does anyone know the name of this app?
[05:02] <dusf> dusf: i didn't using alt-ctrl-f8 to enter the xinit command - i used ctrl+alt+f2
[05:02] <kiichiro> okay how do I start up a program, put in the word "stop" in the server terminal and turn it off at midnight
[05:02] <qin> dusf: This command should puch you to vt8
[05:03] <dusf> qin: can you clarify, i am unfamiliar with what were are doing, and your terminology
[05:03] <dusf> *we're
[05:03] <qin> dusf: tty1-6 vt7- , text and gui
[05:03] <kiichiro> me?
[05:04] <qin> dusf: Can you try to login (that graphical window)?
[05:05] <dusf> qin: the one in ctrl+alt+f2?
[05:05] <qin> dusf: Right now point is to run plain xserver, so we would know that problem is either from gdm or xfce
[05:05] <qin> dusf: Yes
[05:05] <dusf> kk brb
[05:06] <dusf> qin: same thing is happening
[05:06] <dusf> black screen flickers then back to login window
[05:06] <kiichiro> I am trying to automate my computer for a few days, have it auto login, open up a terminal in a specific folder, issue a command, open teamviewer, and at 11:30 type "stop" and hit enter in the terminal, Also to copy and paste files to a specific place.
[05:06] <qin> dusf: Try again, but type your password in username box to see if is right.
[05:06] <kiichiro> willing to talk in private chat
[05:07] <dusf> qin: 'username box'?
[05:07] <dusf> there i only one place i see to type my password...
[05:07] <UberTr1kk> first time ever on irc
[05:07] <ninezerozero> привет всем.
[05:07] <kiichiro> anyone able ot help?
[05:08] <qin> dusf: OK, kill init, and: sudo service gdm restart, check password there
[05:08] <qin> xinit*
[05:08] <ninezerozero> подскажите, вроде, появлялся какой-то драйвер, чтобы в vmware можно было наслаждаться чудесами графики? типа компиза и прочего, а?
[05:08] <ninezerozero> wrong away
[05:08] <ninezerozero> Ж)
[05:09] <Wally> ninezerozero: :)
[05:09] <Wally> I don't think many of us speak Russian.
[05:09] <dusf> qin: how do i kill init
[05:09] <Wally> Ве доньт спеак Руссиан сорры
[05:09] <dusf> qin: killall -9 init?
[05:09] <qin> dusf: No
[05:10] <dusf> qin: jsut log out of tty2?
[05:10] <qin> dusf: In tty2: Ctrl-c
[05:10] <wslayer> qin: i just installed gnome how do I "link" it with gdm?
[05:10] <pwnzorz271> ninezerozero, zdorov
[05:10] <dusf> qin: done, and tty2 now asking for username again in normal text form
[05:10] <ninezerozero> no problem.
[05:10] <dusf> qin: that's what we want, yes?
[05:11] <qin> wslayer: If you installed gnome-session it shoud be already linked
[05:11] <dusf> qin: as an xfce user, do i use gdm?
[05:11] <qin> dusf: Yes
[05:12] <dusf> qin: sudo service gdm restart took my password in text form, then brough up gui asking for password
[05:12] <qin> dusf: From tty2, sudo service gdm stop and sudo service gdm start
[05:12] <dusf> same thing
[05:12] <dusf> ahh stop and start
[05:12] <dusf> kk brb
[05:12] <dusf> qin: no change
[05:14] <qin> dusf: Wait... You right gdm do not have username field, unless you press other user... can you test password this way (so you will see it)
[05:14] <Addy> Hi guys, I was wondering if I could install ubuntu 11.04 32 bit on my 64 bit computer
[05:14] <bazhang> Addy, sure you can
[05:14] <dusf> qin: what?
[05:15] <dusf> qin: oh i did that already
[05:15] <dusf> qin: i clicked other, typed my username, and then my password - which still comes up as dots
[05:15] <Addy> bazhang: that's what I thought, but when I tried to run or install 11.04 it has a kernel panic and restarts
[05:15] <dusf> qin: i've tried something else now tho
[05:15] <dusf> qin: i sudo service stop gdm
[05:15] <dusf> qin: then startxfce4
[05:15] <dusf> it does not load, but gives me some information
[05:16] <bazhang> Addy, corrupt iso perhaps. md5 it, then reburn slowly and do the disk integrity check
[05:16] <wslayer> qin: the restart button on gdm will reboot my system or only gdm?
[05:16] <bazhang> !md5 | Addy
[05:16] <qin> wslayer: System
[05:16] <Addy> bazhang: I used the USB flasher tool to put it on my flash drive, but I will check the ISO, thanks
[05:16] <dusf> qin: failed to load module "noveau" module does not exist
[05:16] <bazhang> Addy, unetbootin? that may take more than once to "burn" it right
[05:16] <wslayer> qin: then i will do a sudo service gdm restart
[05:16] <qin> dusf: oh...
[05:17] <dusf> qin: but that's nothing new, nouveau is blacklisted
[05:17] <Addy> bazhang: no, I'm using Universal USB Installer
[05:17] <dusf> for months
[05:17] <qin> wslayer: This command restart xserver, or rather most of it.
[05:17] <kiichiro> anyone able to help?
[05:17] <dusf> qin: failed to load module "nv", module does not exist
[05:17] <kiichiro> willing to talk in private chat
[05:18] <qin> dusf: My brain jammed (for a moment)
[05:18] <wslayer> restart: unknown instance
[05:18] <qin> wslayer: stop
[05:18] <bazhang> Addy, same holds true. try unetbootin as well though
[05:18] <qin> wslayer: and start
[05:18] <dusf> qin: xfce4-sessions: Unable to access file /home/dusf/.ICEauthority: Input/Output error
[05:19] <qin> dusf: That looks serious.
[05:19] <dee27> i have wine 1.2.3 when i try to install a program it gives me a error
[05:19] <dusf> qin: echo agent PID 4853 killed
[05:20] <tdignan> anyone else find that the text run box in unity sporadically rejects input?
[05:20] <bazhang> dee27, check the appdb and /join #winehq
[05:20] <tdignan> I filed a bug about it today.
[05:20] <wslayer> qin:gdm is running from tty1 is there a problem if i close it with ctrl+c?
[05:20] <bazhang> !appdb | dee27
[05:20] <wildbat> said if i am in terminal inside a sshfs mounted directory, and if the connected broken it will be hanged. is there a nice way out , instead of kill the terminal ?
[05:20] <qin> wslayer: That will kill xserver
[05:20] <dusf> xinit: connection to Xserver lost
[05:20] <mikubuntu> my niece installed ubuntu 1010 but is having issue that she cannot type into any textareas (including) address bar.  i searched for this issue on google can't find anything.  anybody familiar with this?
[05:21] <dusf> qin: can i reset my graphics drivers?
[05:21] <BigAl> im new to linux any bright ideas to give me that i can use
[05:21] <bazhang> BigAl, about what
[05:22] <BigAl> well for starters i have ubuntu 10.10
[05:22] <wslayer> qin: i closed it
[05:22] <bazhang> BigAl, please ask a clear question, all on one line
[05:23] <van7hu> !oss
[05:23] <BigAl> i dont know what the hell im doing
[05:23] <van7hu> hello, ubuntu using OSS?
[05:23] <bazhang> !manual | BigAl have a read
[05:23] <dusf> is there a way to reset xorg and my graphics drivers to revert to the default of a new install?
[05:23] <bazhang> !wiki | BigAl and this too may help
[05:24] <bazhang> van7hu, whats the real question. please be clear
[05:24] <wslayer> qin: what`s the correct way to restart now?
[05:24] <bazhang> van7hu, pulseaudio is what ubuntu  uses by default
[05:24] <wslayer> qin: the xserver and gdm
[05:25] <qin> dusf: First move ~/.ICEauthority to _old and try to login
[05:25] <qin> wslayer: Correct?
[05:25] <van7hu> bazhang, thanks for ingo
[05:25] <van7hu> *info
[05:25] <dusf> qin: so sudo mv ~/.ICEauthority ~/iICEauthority_old ?
[05:25] <wslayer> qin: i mean what should i do to restart x and gdm
[05:25] <qin> dusf: Yes.
[05:26] <dusf> qin: brb
[05:26] <dusf> qin: do i need a reboot -h?
[05:26] <qin> wslayer: gdm takes care of xserver, so you can either start gdm, or just x
[05:26] <BigAl> not like that i mean i know how to use it some what i knw how to use the terminal and all i just want to know fun stuff to do with all the new knowledge
[05:27] <qin> dusf: Or start gdm
[05:27] <BiggFREE> How can I config my kernel for ignoring UNITY gui ?  Any option to untick ?
[05:27] <bazhang> BigAl, thats a very broad question. try to refine it a bit please
[05:27] <dusf> qin: i will go with reboot for safe measure
[05:27] <bazhang> BiggFREE, use classic
[05:27] <bazhang> !classic | BiggFREE
[05:27] <BiggFREE> bazhang ... Ok :)
[05:28] <BigAl> cant be more specific i want to kno fun things i can go with linux
[05:28] <wslayer> qin: the best way to start gdm is with sudo service gdm start?
[05:28] <qin> Is it good place to moun about ff...
[05:28] <bazhang> BigAl, thats more of a websearch question, not a tech support question. try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:28] <BiggFREE> Thanks a lot :) You solved my problem .... bazhang
[05:28] <wslayer> i would like to know what`s the difference to sudo gdm start and sudo service gdm start
[05:28] <woodyjlw> followed instructions on my bcm43 wireles , sudo apt-get update, and then , sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source, and my wireless worked perfect till I rebooted and now no wireless at all.  what could have happened and how do I get it back?
[05:28] <qin> wslayer: Yes, any other method is bad.
[05:29] <wslayer> thanks
[05:29] <wslayer> now i have a working gui :D
[05:29] <BigAl> screw it then
[05:30] <dusf> qin: i am now speaking to you from irssi running in a terminal emulator within x with my beautiful gui desktop :) tyvm for all your help, you have fixed my pc
[05:30] <qin> dusf: To the next one!
[05:31] <qin> dusf: Without X live is simpler, anyway.
[05:31] <dusf> qin: any idea what was causing the problem?
[05:31] <argmonster> join #lurk
[05:31] <dusf> qin: i like to play world of warcraft, and watch movies :)
[05:31] <bazhang> argmonster, /join
[05:31] <qin> dusf: Hard reboot, most likely
[05:31] <dusf> KM0201, bazhang: fix for my problem is above if you guys are interested.
[05:31] <princess> so aside from the massive info i have about getting my bluetooth to work who can give a idiots straight answer mean 'this is how u do it'
[05:32] <dusf> qin: i did do a hard reboot - my computer would not shut down
[05:32] <dusf> it would just goto the login screen
[05:32] <timh____> I want to install a second distro on a separate partition.  Will GRUB automatically probe for it?
[05:32] <wslayer> on gnome my keyboard is fine but on tty it`s fucked
[05:32] <Addy> bazhang: where do I find the list of checksums on the ubuntu website?
[05:32] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup princess have a read
[05:32] <bazhang> wslayer, no cursing here
[05:32] <wslayer> sorry
[05:32] <afed> shit cock nigger jew
[05:32] <bazhang> !hashes | Addy
[05:32] <Addy> thanks :)
[05:32] <qin> wslayer: you need to run locale
[05:33] <dusf> timh____: i think it will, but confirm that first. tri booting ubuntu with two versions of windows i had to do some tinkering. there will be loads of guides on google, try googling for say: dual boot ubuntu and debian
[05:33] <Addy> bazhang: the checksum is the same. Should I just try burning the flash drive again?
[05:33] <qin> Ok, Have a nice day, off for bit....
[05:33] <dusf> qin: you too friend :)
[05:33] <wslayer> qin: you are cool
[05:34] <wslayer> thanks
[05:34] <bazhang> Addy, I would. you may wish to try unetbootin as well. is this from a windows computer by chance? if so unetbootin.sourceforge.net has it
[05:34] <wslayer> i don`t know how you can be so patient with my noob questions lol
[05:34] <timh____> thx.  I did some looking on the ubuntu site last night.  I'll do some more tonight.
[05:35] <Addy> bazhang: yes. I have 64 bit windows 7 ultimate running right now, and I'd like to dual boot that with 32 bit ubunti. I'll try unetbootin, thanks
[05:35] <wslayer> bazhang: nvidia driver
[05:45] <pie_> How can I set the amount of idle time till the screen automatically locks?
[05:45] <bazhang> pie_, screensaver settings?
[05:45] <IdleOne> in the screen saver settings
[05:46] <pie_> ok well my stuff checks out...whats strange is it's not activatong the screensaver lately...
[05:51] <jeeves_moss> is there a good CLI only MP3 tagging tool that accesses the FreeCDDB to get the track info?  I have over 350Gb that I'd like updated
[05:52] <kiichiro> I am trying to automate my computer for a few days, have it auto login, open up a terminal in a specific folder, issue a command, open teamviewer, and at 11:30 type "stop" and hit enter in the terminal, Also to copy and paste files to a specific place.
[05:52] <jeeves_moss> kiichiro, why not script it, then call it from CRON?
[05:53] <kiichiro> anyone able to show me how to scipt in here
[05:54] <jeeves_moss> kiichiro, what program are you trying to run?
[05:56] <wslayer> even though linux configuration can sometimes be difficult it`s a much better OS than windows will ever be
[05:56] <kiichiro> terminal and teamviewer
[05:56] <kiichiro> and need to start a game server  with the terminal
[05:57] <susundberg> Good morning. Does anyone else use hard-disk spindown in /etc/hdparm.conf -- to me it seems like it is not working on boot, but it does work after suspend (udev rules are buggy?)
[05:57] <susundberg> Or another thing, what is the gnome-power managers 'spin down when possible' suppose to do -- at least it is not working ?
[05:58] <oneliner> hello there i was wondering if anyone would be willing to give me a hand in understanding jack sound server and how to make use of it properly
[06:00] <mikubuntu> my niece installed ubuntu 1010 but is having issue that she cannot type into any textareas (including) address bar.  i searched for this issue on google can't find anything.  anybody familiar with this?
[06:00] <susundberg> oneliner: You could also first try to read the availalble documentation and then ask specific question if there is something unclear
[06:00] <susundberg> oneliner: or do you have one question ready, i can try to answear it ..
[06:01] <woodyjlw> i need help with my wireless card. its hp laptop with bcm4318 card and ubuntu 11.04 . all past versions of ubuntu  always installed the wireless and worked fine. And I had it working on 11.04 till I restarted laptop no nothing
[06:01] <susundberg> woodyjlw: what card to be precise?
[06:01] <Habeeb> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me with an audio syncing issue within VLC
[06:01] <woodyjlw> bcm4318
[06:01] <Habeeb> under 11.04
[06:02] <subminuentisch_> mikubuntu had the same  problem with my usb keyboard wich doesent work with any linux ive tried
[06:02] <oneliner> susunberg does it make sense to try to run all audio through jack? if so how should i go about configuring, also the whole thing is muddled with audio device blindness
[06:02] <susundberg> woodyjlw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10757442 ?
[06:03] <susundberg> oneliner: i guess that depends what are you trying to do..
[06:04] <susundberg> oneliner: if your computer is 100% use as home studio recording box, then sure it makes sense. If you use it to watch flash videos, then probably not
[06:04] <susundberg> oneliner: about configuration i hope there is plenty of resources on the manuals
[06:04] <sht> could anyone provide some general insight on as to why ubuntu may hang when doing apt-get install postfix? it sits at Unpacking postfix (from .../postfix_2.7.1-1ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb) ...
[06:04] <sht> it sits at Unpacking postfix (from .../postfix_2.7.1-1ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb) ...
[06:05] <oneliner> susundberg: whenever i start the jack server for audio work "common sounds" stop,
[06:05] <sht> whoops
[06:05] <oneliner> you can say i want both audio work and flash streaming
[06:05] <jeeves_moss> woodyjlw, does the card show up if you pull a "lspci", or "dmesg"?
[06:06] <oneliner> also i guess i want to learn more about how to manage sound hardware better
[06:06] <susundberg> oneliner: yes i guess that is becouse the jack requires control of the sound system as well as the 'common sounds'
[06:06] <susundberg> oneliner: Have you checked google, like: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToJACKConfiguration
[06:06] <woodyjlw> jeeves_moss, yes , 05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[06:07] <oneliner> susundberg: yes, i guess am missing lots of background info to turn that into working solutions
[06:07] <susundberg> oneliner: hmm, it might be that 'common sounds' and jack are not working together at all, tough that would be little weird
[06:08] <susundberg> oneliner: http://jackaudio.org/documentation ?
[06:08] <Jakman85> welcome back, dimas_
[06:09] <Jakman85> dimas_, did you get your dj software working?
[06:09] <jeeves_moss> woodyjlw, do you have the backports repo enabled in APT?
[06:10] <woodyjlw> jeeves_moss,  sudo apt-get update ,  sudo apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer , made it work till i restarted laptop
[06:10] <woodyjlw> jeeves_moss,  dont know how do I check
[06:10] <susundberg> oneliner: to be honest, i think there is not very good up-to-date documentation of the sound system in complite
[06:11] <susundberg> oneliner: the jack documentation would be my best guess, and there they say 2003 is the most recent ..
[06:12] <susundberg> oneliner: you might try to look for ubuntu studio documentation also, if there would be some more up-to-date. Or just ask your question here again, i cannot help more, sorry.
[06:12] <RealOpty> woodyjlw, whats the issue?
[06:12] <dimas_> Jakman85 i am trying to applications...i uninstaled pulseaudio cause it conflict with jack , but i am still having some issues i dont understand i had try another streaming software to see if it was the application..in this one i get the sound to play and connect to the server to strean but there is no data going out either
[06:12] <ubuntunoobie2903> Who is in charge of managing the standard ubuntu package repository? How does that work? i.e. there is a game that has had a new version out for awhile, but the old version is still what's in the repository.
[06:13] <woodyjlw> jeeves_moss, how do I enable in apt ?
[06:13] <Jakman85> dimas_, what did you have pulseaudio installed?
[06:13] <woodyjlw> RealOpty,  trying to get my bcm4318 wireless working in 11.04
[06:13] <dimas_> Jakman85 i did removed it
[06:14] <RealOpty> missing the firmware or the  b43legacy driver?
[06:14] <RealOpty> woodyjlw, ^
[06:14] <Jakman85> dimas_, I understand, but what was your reasoning in installing it in the first place? (just curious)
[06:15] <dimas_> Jakman85 i belive was installed when i upgrade to ubuntu studio
[06:15] <woodyjlw> RealOpty,  trying but no luck
[06:16] <Jakman85> dimas_, oh, I see. If you run the application from the terminal, do you get any error messages?
[06:16] <jeeves_moss> woodyjlw, sorry, my fiance needed something.
[06:16] <dimas_> Jakman85 i dont quiet remember really...maybe was because i  found a good place where they were explaining how to get the idjc and skype to work simultaneously
[06:16] <jeeves_moss> woodyjlw, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:17] <woodyjlw> jeeves_moss,  lol np
[06:17] <RealOpty> woodyjlw, or
[06:17] <RealOpty> load up synaptic package manger
[06:17] <jeeves_moss> woodyjlw, <zip>  yea, sorry, had to preform my "manly duity"
[06:17] <ubuntunoobie2903> Anyone understand how the package repository is maintained?
[06:17] <Jakman85> dimas_, is the idjc suppose to be a good program? or are you just checking it out?
[06:17] <dimas_> Jakman85 the applications are not the problem...i belive i am missing something in the audio
[06:17] <jeeves_moss> RealOpty, awwww, seriously?  package manager?  CLI!!
[06:17] <RealOpty> woodyjlw, then go to settings -> repo
[06:17] <dimas_> i used it 3 years ago...is very good
[06:18] <Jakman85> well, I made a package of it when I compiled it. If you want it you are welcome to PM me
[06:18] <dimas_> although i tryed another one and i am having the same problem to stream...i do connect to the server but there is not data going out as it doesnt register on the server as streaming
[06:18] <RealOpty> jeeves_moss, too bad ubuntu dosnt support UCI
[06:19] <jeeves_moss> RealOpty, that's half the fun!!
[06:19] <RealOpty> lol
[06:19] <Jakman85> dimas_, that way, if you decide to start from scratch you dont have to try and compile it again
[06:20] <dimas_> Jakman85 the problem is not the application
[06:21] <dimas_> Jakman is the audio server...some how i am not really sending any data out
[06:21] <Jakman85> dimas_, I understand, I am just saying if you so happen to redo Ubuntu entirely, you can just use the package instead of trying to compile it again
[06:21] <Peddy> to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 with a CD, do I use the Desktop CD or alternate install CD?
[06:21] <Jakman85> dimas_, I am not saying this will fix your current issue by any means
[06:21] <dimas_> Jakman85 i have a nice set up for my androids apps
[06:21] <Abhijit> !alternate
[06:22] <Abhijit> Peddy, yes alternate
[06:22] <Peddy> thanks Abhijit
[06:22] <rww> Peddy: alternate, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades#Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD
[06:22] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[06:22] <Peddy> thanks rww :-)
[06:23] <dimas_> Jakman85 just wonder...i am missing the volume control in the desktop and is not on the system either
[06:23] <Jakman85> have you ran dmesg to see if there was an error on the system level for your sound system?
[06:23] <ibragim> Assalamu alaykum
[06:24] <Jakman85> dimas_, please read the last message... i forgot to mention your name :-)
[06:24] <dimas_> Jakman85 i have audio but i dont know where it comes from...i mean alsa...but...does it need something to make able to send data out perhaps?
[06:24] <Tropolis> I need to restart a frozen process via a web interface (which requires user authentication), what's the best way to do this?
[06:24] <dimas_> Jakman85 that sound like a good idea but i dont know how
[06:25] <Jakman85> dimas_, open a terminal, type in dmesg
[06:25] <th^^> any idea where unity saves the launcher layout? it always resets on relogin
[06:25] <bsmith093> im trying to use my offsite server as a proxy through putty, Ive set it up but firefox said its refusing connections?
[06:25] <Tropolis> Users go to a page hosted on the server, login, are presented with a "restart" (or other commands) button, and it runs the command, logging who ran what process
[06:26] <Tropolis> I appreciate if anyone has any suggestions.
[06:26] <Jakman85> Tropolis, I think php has a command to run system commands
[06:27] <woodyjlw> jeeves_moss,  is 11.04 just not compatable with this card anymore.  worked perfect with every other version of ubuntu .  11.04  has been a disaster for me. never had so much trouble from any other version of ubuntu.  only thing I like about 11.04 is opensource ati driver has much better performance 200m or r300 chip from what I can tell so far but sems like nothing ells works right. guess its back to 10.04
[06:27] <Jakman85> Tropolis, will phpMyAdmin not suite your needs?
[06:28] <Tropolis> i don't know, i haven't looked into it
[06:28] <Tropolis> i will now though, I'm just trying to gather suggestions
[06:28] <din> phpmyadmin is a tool for managing mysql databases
[06:29] <Tropolis> the website says it's just for sql db's
[06:29] <Jakman85> din, thank you for correcting me, i am mistaking it for another tool
[06:29] <ray24> What is a compatible wallpaper for my ubuntu
[06:29] <woodyjlw> jeeves_moss,  I really think ubuntu is headed in a direction with 11.04 that I dont want to follow. may just jump to debian and see how well it works for me
[06:29] <din> Tropolis: you will likely need to write something custom in php to do what you are talking about.
[06:30] <din> well, php, perl, cgi, etc... whatever language you choose.
[06:30] <wildbat> If i am in terminal inside a sshfs mounted directory. If the connection broken, the terminal will be hanged. is there a nice way out , instead of killing the terminal ?
[06:30] <din> Tropolis: also, allowing users to run commands on server is probably not a good idea. :)
[06:31] <Tropolis> Yeah, ideally I just want a button that runs a script in the background
[06:31] <Tropolis> which will only restart the given process
[06:31] <ray24> How does one find a matching wallpaper for ubuntu?
[06:32] <dimas_> Jackman85 i post a little piece of my dmsg
[06:32] <din> wildbat: ~.
[06:33] <wildbat> din, that's for ssh ~  i am in sshfs
[06:33] <chalcedony> after i rebooted last time my alerts started making sounds (ubuntu 10.04), i LOVED it! but i wanted to see if i could get more than one sound, for different things - drum sound (default) .. so i messed with System > Sound > Sound Effects - and I don't know what i changed but now i can barely hear it? i moved the Output Volume up, because music and things were too quiet, and i moved Choose an alert sound to Drip and back to Default .. and now i
[06:33] <chalcedony>  can't hear it? HELP?
[06:33] <din> wildbat: ah, sorry. hmmm
[06:34] <haxor> hello
[06:34] <din> wildbat:  cd .. ?? :)
[06:34] <wildbat> the terminal hanged :<  ~ can't type ;p
[06:35] <share> :p
[06:35] <din> how about ctrl \
[06:35] <wildbat> din, let me try
[06:35] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[06:36] <kiichiro> and need to start a game server  with the terminal can someone help me program that?
[06:36] <haxor> hello any on people here
[06:36] <haxor> ?
[06:37] <_Rix> !help
[06:37] <wildbat> din, nope~
[06:37] <_Rix> !about
[06:37] <dattebayo> hey guys recently im having problem with usb-creator, when i add  file.iso it shows me nothing so i cant create flash bootable what should i do to it work?
[06:37] <din> wildbat: if sshfs disconnects, it is like pulling the filesystem out from under a running process. it may respond at all unless you just kill the shell.
[06:37] <_Rix> !bot
[06:37] <din> may not*
[06:38] <wildbat> din, kk ~ just thought there may be a nicer way out ^^ ~ nvm then
[06:39] <din> wildbat: when i use sshfs i always use -o reconnect
[06:39] <wildbat> din, not always work ~
[06:39] <din> in case it does disconnect
[06:39] <din> yeah i understand, if your endpoint is unreachable.
[06:39] <mikubuntu> my niece installed ubuntu 1010 but is having issue that she cannot type into any textareas (including) address bar.  i searched for this issue on google can't find anything.  anybody familiar with this?
[06:40] <wildbat> din, and if the connections dropped for too long ~
[06:40] <chalcedony> mikau, does her mouse move the pointer?
[06:40] <mikubuntu> its on a laptop, so itds not a usb keyboard
[06:40] <din> wildbat: lately i have been using autofs + sshfs. you should check it out.
[06:41] <din> wildbat: yes, such is the way of network filesystems. :)
[06:42] <wildbat> din ~ autofs ~ hmm ~ used to use it when i am using with Windows shares~ have never use it with sshfs~ hmmm
[06:45] <din> wildbat: it is quite handy. i have a netbook with limited storage, so i use it to mount my /home directory on my home "server".
[06:49] <brewster> does anyone here use the program tangerine?
[06:50] <brewster> they don't appear to have an irc channel
[06:50] <wildbat> din, don't your system hang if the connection broken?
[06:50] <brewster> and i was wondering how i could tell what port it used
[06:52] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[06:59] <delinquentme> export $CROSSBOW_HOME='/home/unf-ubu/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2'  << does this look like a valid operation for setting the path in ubuntu?
[06:59] <delinquentme> bc its definitely not setting the path :P
[06:59] <Gryllida> delinquentme: Without the $
[06:59] <Flannel> delinquentme: Is your usernam unf-ubu?
[06:59] <delinquentme> Flannel, it is
[07:00] <delinquentme> ah!
[07:00] <b0nghitter> i'm trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX on ubuntu server 11.04, but there is no PPA repo for 11.04... can i get around this somehow without any problems?
[07:00] <delinquentme> Gryllida, thanks!
[07:01] <jeeves_moss> Flannel, hey man!!  long time no chat!!
[07:02] <van7hu> anyone has experience with pulseaudio?
[07:02] <Gryllida> delinquentme: :)
[07:03] <Scribbled2x> Does the latest linux kernel support a blocksize of 1024 for ext2?  Is there a chance that this is something that it no longer supports
[07:04] <Flannel> howdy jeeves_moss
[07:05] <Jordan_U> delinquentme: You probably don't want to completely replace $PATH, rather you should add to it with 'PATH=$PATH:/path/to/new/directory/'. Is /home/unf-ubu/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2 a regular file or a directory?
[07:05] <delinquentme> Jordan_U, yeah its a directory
[07:06] <delinquentme> so CROSSBOW_HOME=$CROSSBOW_HOME:/yadda/yar'
[07:07] <delinquentme> and this is different just in the case where someone might already have that ENVVAR set?
[07:08] <ubun> If i use LUBUNTU, what limitations does that come with vs ubuntu? can i still use terminal webcams? internet?
[07:08] <Gryllida> ubun: yes
[07:08] <Captainkrtek> yes
[07:08] <Gryllida> !lubuntu
[07:10] <estimablesir> #list
[07:11] <delinquentme> Jordan_U, that above question was for you :D  .. no rush though
[07:13] <Diddlebug> I think I have a kidney stone
[07:13] <Captainkrtek> Diddlebug, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:14] <thinktank809> Hi All... wanted a quick advise... we r trying to install 10.04LTS server 32bit  on PRIMERGY rx300 S6 , have 300GB * 4 HDD , The HDD are in RAID5 + 1HSP... when we install the OS the installation procedure is detecting only 300gb space...should i not get at least 500 to 600gb space
[07:14] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, ubuntu may not be recognizing the raid
[07:15] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, is it software?
[07:15] <Captainkrtek> what is the raid care?
[07:15] <Captainkrtek> card*
[07:15] <noisewaterphd> onboard, card?
[07:15] <GSF1200S> any troubleshooting ideas for figuring out why logout from the menu hangs?
[07:15] <thinktank809> onboad
[07:15] <noisewaterphd> well post your mobo details and maybe someone has experience
[07:15] <thinktank809> the raid was configured using the serverview CD
[07:16] <noisewaterphd> are you sure the mobo supports booting from the onboard raid
[07:16] <Captainkrtek> I have some server experience, not much with raid + ubuntu
[07:16] <Captainkrtek> I can try to help though
[07:16] <thinktank809> ever help is welcome
[07:16] <thinktank809> im about to try the 64bit version
[07:16] <noisewaterphd> problem with hardware raid is they are all different with different features and quirks
[07:17] <Scribbled2x> hahahah - success :) - the answer - simple: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=~/Crap_Pile_File bs=1024 ; mount Crap_Pile_File /Crap_Pile_File_Mountpoint -o loop
[07:17] <noisewaterphd> manufacturer docs are prob the best place to start
[07:17] <Captainkrtek> yeah
[07:17] <Captainkrtek> that's what i'd suggest
[07:17] <thinktank809> manufacturer has only certified as UBUNTU works on this server...but not any further help
[07:17] <WXZ> how do I open cmap files?
[07:18] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, find out what onboard raid chip it is, find their docs
[07:18] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, not the server manufacturer
[07:18] <thinktank809> hmm..thats a nice one
[07:19] <thinktank809> let me try that
[07:19] <Captainkrtek> certified doesnt mean all features will work if I recall correctly
[07:19] <noisewaterphd> they are just saying that out of all linux distros, they tried ubuntu and all hardware was supported
[07:20] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, one thing to keep in mind, is that a lot of on board raid chips don't support the raid setup as a boot disk
[07:21] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, in which case use 1 disk as the system disk, raid the rest of the drives raid5 or whatever and moun the raid as /home, or whatever suits you best
[07:21] <thinktank809> @noisewaterphd:  microsoft 2003/2008 got installed perfectly
[07:21] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, I don't like running my entire system from raid anyway, that is a lot of uneeded overhead slowing things down
[07:22] <thinktank809> is there any limitations on HDD access between 32bit and 64bit
[07:22] <noisewaterphd> just raid the critical data
[07:22] <noisewaterphd> just my opinion
[07:22] <WXZ> how do I open cmap files?
[07:23] <sender> mousemovement is stuttering, only on ubuntu 11.04 classic mode. Having xorg problems as well, can this be related, and how to solve? thanks
[07:23] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, if MS was able to use the exact same machine and boot from the raid then the bios and chip support it
[07:23] <noisewaterphd> so just start with chipmaker docs
[07:23] <noisewaterphd> bios docs might be of use as well
[07:24] <sender> about xorg problems: installed nvidia latest, and having serious compiz performance problems (8600GT 512mb), is this video card too old?
[07:24] <noisewaterphd> or at least give us the mobo and raid controller details so we can guess
[07:24] <wildbat> sender, i have 7950GT ~ not a problem at all .
[07:25] <Jakman85> sender, no
[07:25] <sender> wildbat, Jakman85: thanks, kind of comforting ;) hope to solve this soon
[07:25] <nkh> AnyOne can help me with Lucid? It Does not recognize my ethernet, instead of eth0 i have eth1 in ifconfig -a !
[07:25] <Jakman85> sender, i have 8800gts and it runs silky smooth
[07:26] <sender> wildbat, Jakman85: scale plugin is no problem, switching workspaces using desktop wall is wonky :-\
[07:26] <Jakman85> sender, i found someone yester who had issues, and the nvidia installer added another DRI section in the xorg rather than replacing the old one. He restored his past xorg and everything worked fine after that
[07:27] <babu> how to hear the sound from the remote desktop
[07:27] <sender> Jakman85: sorry, cant fint a DRI section in xorg.conf (kind of new to this)
[07:27] <Jakman85> glxinfo in a terminal
[07:27] <q0_0p> anyone here familiar with evolution?
[07:27] <sender> Jakman85: but i have double Section "InputDevice"
[07:27] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, the datasheet for that server you listed shows an optional raid card, not an on board controller
[07:28] <q0_0p> i removed evolution and figured all my settings were gone
[07:28] <Jakman85> sender, do a glxinfo in a terminal
[07:28] <q0_0p> after reinstalling evolution settings are still there and mail
[07:28] <q0_0p> was wondering if anyone knew the location
[07:28] <q0_0p> of this mail and settings
[07:28] <sender> Jakman85: ok, what am i looking for?
[07:28] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, with a raid card you have to use the card manufacturer software to interface it with the bios with as a bootable disk unless it came preconfigured that way
[07:28] <Jakman85> q0_0p, remove the hidden folder in your home directory?
[07:28] <q0_0p> Jakman85, i did that prior to removing
[07:29] <q0_0p> .evolution
[07:29] <Jakman85> sender, find your card listed
[07:29] <sender> Jakman85: "server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation"
[07:29] <orchata> HI guys, I got the Ubuntu Ultimate edition 2.7 dvd -  It has some packages in it that I want to install on my Ubuntu 11.04.   Is there any way to extract the debs from the DVD?  As far as I understood it hold all the files in squashfs'ed format
[07:29] <q0_0p> jakeriver, .config/evolution
[07:29] <sender> Jakman85: "server glx version string: 1.4"
[07:29] <noisewaterphd> q0_0p, sudo apt-get purge evolution
[07:29] <sender> Jakman85: "OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2"
[07:30] <noisewaterphd> q0_0p, or sudo apt-get remove --purge evolution if not uninstalled yet
[07:30] <noisewaterphd> q0_0p, for future reference
[07:30] <sender> Jakman85: is there  a way to benchmark? phoronix wont start :(
[07:31] <Jakman85> sender, glxgears, but be warned, it didnt work too well with my nvidia card
[07:31] <noisewaterphd> orchata, never even heard of ubuntu ultimate edition
[07:31] <sender> Jakman85: glxgears gives me:  OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
[07:31] <sender> Jakman85: glxgears gives me: 25990 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5197.938 FPS
[07:32] <orchata> noisewaterphd:  Well, it doesn't matter which version of ubuntu it is, the idea is that it is a livecd and I want to get some debs from it
[07:32] <noisewaterphd> orchata, but if they are on that disc then they are available in some repository somewhere, so you really don't need to get them off the DVD
[07:32] <Jakman85> sender, it appears your graphics driver is working
[07:32] <orchata> noisewaterphd: Well, I need to get them from DVD because I don't have good internet connetion to download them
[07:32] <Jakman85> sender, what exactly are you doing that is causing poor perforance?
[07:33] <noisewaterphd> orchata, give an example of one of the packages you need off of it
[07:33] <sender> Jakman85: hmmm, ok. Any idea where the stuttering might come from when switching workspaces? Also mouse stuttering.
[07:33] <noisewaterphd> orchata, oh
[07:33] <noisewaterphd> orchata, ok, so just put the disk in and use software center to install them from the disk
[07:33] <thinktank809> my bad....the RAID controller is not onboard...its RAID Ctrl SAS 6G 5/6 512 MB
[07:33] <sender> Jakman85: it's switching workspaces using Desktop Wall and having more then 4 windows open (not a lot right)
[07:33] <noisewaterphd> thinktank809, read back a bit, I already mentioned that
[07:34] <orchata> noisewaterphd: Well, I guess I am doing something wrong, because it does not work this way
[07:34] <noisewaterphd> orchata, ok, so just put in the disk, browse the disk, find the packages you want and copy them to your hard drive
[07:34] <Jakman85> sender, hmm... not experiencing it with my 8800gts, but it is more powerful than the 8600... I would still be very surprised if it is your hardware though
[07:35] <alex__> hi
[07:35] <orchata> noisewaterphd:  the "pool" directory is only 10 MB
[07:35] <Jakman85> sender, has this always done this or just recently?
[07:35] <WXZ> how do I open cmap files?
[07:36] <alex__> :( cant set up my wifi on my laptop
[07:36] <orchata> noisewaterphd: But when I run the live cd it has over 100 different apps
[07:36] <noisewaterphd> orchata, https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-classic/add-applications/C/offline.html
[07:36] <cypha> ok, I seem to be having trouble with postgres, and I'm following http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/interactive/tutorial-createdb.html
[07:36] <sender> Jakman85: ok, i've upgraded from 7600 which gave me the same problems. Actually on different OS'es there is no problem. It started with upgrading to 11.04. Jockey is giving me 'driver activated but not in use'. After that  I installed NVIDIA 175... and cant seem to go back.
[07:36] <noisewaterphd> cypha, great start but we need the error message or the description of the problem
[07:37] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[07:37] <nkh> hi My eth0 device is not recognized by lucid , instead , i've a eth1 in ifconfig -a , and this is not working , any idea!?
[07:37] <cypha> noisewaterphd, lol, that would prolly help
[07:37] <Jakman85> sender, I would download the nvidia driver from nvidia.com, follow the instructions for uninstalling the current driver and installing that one
[07:37] <alex__> wifi wifi
[07:37] <Jakman85> sender, a simple good search should point you in the right direction
[07:37] <alex__> cant set it up
[07:37] <sender> Jakman85: I think I did that already, I'm now on: 275.09.07
[07:38] <Jakman85> sender, I use to have the exact issue with an old ATI (not AMD, ATI ;-) ) card
[07:38] <noisewaterphd> cypha, also this is ubuntu help, not postgres. but post anyway and you might get lucky
[07:38] <alex__> i installed ubuntu just now
[07:38] <nkh> hi My eth0 device is not recognized by lucid , instead , i've a eth1 in ifconfig -a , and this is not working , any idea!?
[07:38] <sender> Jakman85: aha ok ;) what was the solution? Do you think mouse stuttering can be related to desktop wall switching?
[07:38] <noisewaterphd> cypha,  #postgresql
[07:38] <sender> Jakman85: I've already bitemarks in my mouse now ;)
[07:38] <cypha> noisewaterphd, true, I think it's still an understanding linux thing right now
[07:39] <Jakman85> sender, it is probably using a GL extension that does not have GPU acceleration on it
[07:39] <sender> Jakman85: is that something I can change?
[07:39] <cypha> i am at the postgres@cypha-ubuntu: prompt after "sudo -u postgres -i''ing in
[07:40] <sender> Jakman85: non responsive mouse is kinda annoying.. :(
[07:40] <nkh> I even tried to add eth0 in /etc/network.interfaces , but i've get such error restarting network service : eth0 device not found
[07:40] <alex__> my wifi driver is instaled and activated but in network conections i dont see ant wifi conection
[07:40] <Jakman85> sender, if you open up system monitor, watch the cpu usage, and if it ramps up during the switching, then that is the issue
[07:40] <cypha> then "createdb cyphadb" gives me an error
[07:40] <cypha> "no command create found
[07:40] <cypha> "
[07:40] <alex__> -_- u all are bad i hate u
[07:41] <sender> Jakman85: spot on, up to 100% on both cores :(
[07:41] <sender> Jakman85: performance is degrading really fast with additional windows open..
[07:41] <sender> Jakman85: how to debug this? Never had a problem with ubuntu out of the box before
[07:41] <noisewaterphd> alex__, just for thought, my HP laptops have actual hardware buttons to enable and disable wireless, which makes the connection disappear when deactivated
[07:42] <nkh> My eth0 device is not recognized by lucid , instead , i've a eth1 in ifconfig -a , and this is not working , any idea!?
[07:42] <sender> Jakman85: feel like a downgrade to lucid might be the best option now
[07:42] <noisewaterphd> alex__, really, then leave...
[07:42] <nkh> I think I'm Spaming if I Copy Paste My Question AnyMore :D
[07:42] <nkh> :-"
[07:42] <Jakman85> sender, it might be. They probably changed some of the GL extensions in the new version that is not supported by your vid card at the moment
[07:43] <sender> Jakman85: is there a way to downgrade without full reinstall that you know of?
[07:43] <rww> !downgrade
[07:43] <alex__> noise dont be .... nd help me :@ i press the key and nuthing happens
[07:44] <GSF1200S> i have an issue with the logout button not logging me out immediately- it takes at least 20 seconds before im logged out
[07:44] <GSF1200S> and it just started doing this
[07:44] <Jakman85> rww, do you know a way of finding out what GL extensions are being called at a given moment?
[07:44] <GSF1200S> is there anyway I can troubleshoot this?
[07:44] <alex__> all heys work but the wifi key doesnt
[07:44] <GSF1200S> ive already tried dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[07:45] <nkh> My eth0 device is not recognized by lucid , instead , i've a eth1 in ifconfig -a , and this is not working , any idea!?
[07:45] <noisewaterphd> GSF1200S, do you have a new background process that is taking a while to shut down?
[07:45] <sender> Jakman85: thanks a tonne, cheers
[07:46] <Jakman85> sender, sorry to not have all the answers, but i hope you figure a solution out for yourself :-)
[07:46] <GSF1200S> noisewaterphd, thats a good point.. I figured that gdm would issue a sigkill to all processes running under X
[07:46] <alex__> if u dont help me it means u dont have balls
[07:46] <sender> Jakman85: np, sure will do ;) thanks
[07:46] <noisewaterphd> alex__, if you have a wifi key that is doing nothing, then search online for the drivers for your notebook to enable the key so that you can push the key to enable wireless and then have a wireless connection. and in the future, don't be an impatient baby if you expect any help
[07:47] <nkh> the more i google it , the less i get :| , how should I make Lucid recognize my ethernet !?
[07:47] <gogeta> alex__: sorry we cannt delver you new balls at this time
[07:47] <gogeta> nkh: plug it in
[07:47] <alex__> a driver for the key?
[07:47] <alex__> i ll try to find it
[07:47] <Jakman85> nkh, did you ask it to please work? ;-) do you have an IP address?
[07:48] <noisewaterphd> alex__, nobody is paid to be here, we come to help out in our free time, you can't expect someone to jump on your question in 20 seconds. And making the kind of comments you did will get you flat out ignored forever
[07:48] <nkh> gogeta: I know this , Man ! in ifconfig -a i've get an eth1 instead of eth0 !
[07:48] <nkh> Jakman85: I know this , Man ! in ifconfig -a i've get an eth1 instead of eth0 !
[07:48] <gogeta> nkh: if its wifi it might be named wlan0 or ath0
[07:49] <noisewaterphd> alex__, look for an ubuntu driver package for your entire laptop as well
[07:49] <alex__> noise k i apologize for my impatience
[07:49] <nkh> Jakman85: gogeta : I've pluged it in and nothing happens even in dmesg there is no message shows that it recognoze the ethernet
[07:49] <george__> hey guys should i install ubuntu with ext4 or btrfs ?
[07:49] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[07:49] <george__> which one is better?
[07:49] <Jakman85> nkh, can you ping google? or do you truly have nothing?
[07:49] <gogeta> nkh: some new gigafast we dont have a driver for or somethin?
[07:50] <alex__> noise i have my laptop's cd drivers does it help??
[07:50] <gogeta> nkh: its rare for them to lack one
[07:50] <noisewaterphd> alex__, for example, my HP laptops are fully supported right out of the box on ubuntu, my Macbook pro took some additional download to get some of the pecial keys and the multitouch mouse working
[07:50] <q0_0p> Jakman85, found it
[07:50] <wladston> I can't do a2enmod mod-wsgi after installing libapache2-mod-wsgi. ( it says ERROR: Module mod-wsgi does not exist!) Already searched everywhere .... help ?
[07:50] <noisewaterphd> alex__, no, the cd is for windows I'm sure
[07:50] <q0_0p> jakeriver, ~/.local/share/evolution
[07:50] <alex__> yup
[07:50] <noisewaterphd> alex__ what is your laptop make and model
[07:50] <Jakman85> q0_0p what and where was it?
[07:51] <nkh> Jakman85: gogeta : it was working till yesterday! i was triyng to work with an ipCamera , after that i faced this problem ...
[07:51] <q0_0p> jakeriver, ~/.local/share/evolution
[07:51] <gogeta> nkh: im leaning tords a hardware isue eth0 being disabled for a reasion or broken
[07:51] <alex__> its inspiron 1545
[07:51] <gogeta> nkh: i see
[07:52] <nkh> gogeta: So what is this eth1 in ifconfig ? :-?
[07:52] <noisewaterphd> nkh, I think just rewriting your network configs by hand might be your best bet from what I have been reading
[07:52] <gogeta> nkh: did you bridge them and its shbowing as eth1?
[07:52] <gogeta> nkh: thats probly eth0 renamed
[07:52] <george__> Is it true that BTFS is better than Ext4 ?
[07:52] <Jakman85> nkh, really... ipCamera would probably be an eth, since it is IP (or wlan if it is wireless)
[07:52] <rww> george__: no
[07:52] <babu> how to hear the sound from the remote desktop
[07:52] <nkh> noisewaterphd: How Should i do that !?
[07:52] <Jakman85> george__, nothing beats fat16
[07:53] <gogeta> rww: if he didnt have one before it is
[07:53] <babu> with the remote desktop viewer, i can only view the remote desktop
[07:53] <babu> pls someone help
[07:53] <nkh> gogeta: maybe , but it does not take an ip even connecting my modem or the camera :-??
[07:53] <george__> rww , jackman85 should i install ext4 or btrfs ?
[07:53] <rww> george__: ext4
[07:53] <Jakman85> george__, i would install ext4
[07:54] <gogeta> nkh: have you set it to auto if the program messed with your settigs you might need to restore them threw the network mamanger
[07:54] <george__> jakman85  , fat16 only supports files with 2gb space
[07:54] <nkh> Jakman85: sorry I did'nt get you , yes it's an eth , the matter is that nothing is working now , i even installed a debian and there is the same problem there !
[07:54] <noisewaterphd> hey alex__, did you install the proprietary broadcom drivers for your wireless card?
[07:55] <hellhammer> how do i view my installed drivers in ubuntu 10.04?
[07:55] <Jakman85> george__, i was kidding and being a bit of a troll ;-)
[07:55] <noisewaterphd> alex__, the 1545 is supposed to be fully supported
[07:55] <atul_> gsdfg
[07:55] <noisewaterphd> alex__, no additional downloads
[07:55] <hellhammer> how do i view my installed drivers in ubuntu 10.04?
[07:55] <nkh> gogeta: actually I didn't change anything and let it all to be done automatically , how Should I reset my network configurations?! may be it works ... :-??
[07:55] <atul_> can i install grub2 over grub
[07:56] <gogeta> nkh: i dont deal with unity so i cant say where they buryed the settings
[07:56] <noisewaterphd> alex__, System > Administration > Additional Drivers
[07:56] <nkh> gogeta: I'm on Lucid , there is no unity ;)
[07:56] <[CBH]Edward> Hello everyone!
[07:56] <alex__> nose it automaticaly installed it
[07:56] <gogeta> nkh: should be system adimin network manager
[07:56] <noisewaterphd> alex__, no
[07:56] <Jakman85> nkh, go to the power button on the top right, go to System Settings on the bottom
[07:57] <noisewaterphd> alex__, you have to install proprietary ones
[07:57] <[CBH]Edward> Installing java, DLJ license terms need to be accepted
[07:57] <gogeta> Jakman85: hes not unity hehe
[07:57] <[CBH]Edward> is there a way to automatically accept it?
[07:57] <nkh> Jakman85: and So !?
[07:57] <[CBH]Edward> apt-get install "-y" parameter isn't automatically accepting the java license agreement in shell
[07:57] <subminuentisch_> die
[07:57] <alex__> oh mm i installed updates
[07:57] <Jakman85> gogeta, lol, oh, i thought you said YOU werent in unity
[07:57] <noisewaterphd> alex__, they are included, but you have to follow the menu I just told you about and manually install the non open source proprietary drivers
[07:57] <nkh> Jakman85: network manager is now open , what shoul i do !?
[07:57] <foolishuser> hellhammer, in system /admin/hardware drivers
[07:57] <gogeta> Jakman85: im not never will be
[07:58] <noisewaterphd> alex__ and after installing the proprietary driver you need to reboot
[07:58] <foolishuser> Good morning all !
[07:58] <gogeta> Jakman85: i built my own off the min cd a lxde custom build
[07:58] <noisewaterphd> alex__, so in the menu at the top of your screen: System > Administration > Additional Drivers
[07:58] <Jakman85> nkh, i really dont know, ask gogeta?
[07:59] <foolishuser> BBL
[07:59] <alex__> noise ok wait
[07:59] <Jakman85> gogeta, sounds nice, i just drank the kool-aide ;-)
[07:59] <gogeta> Jakman85: i tryed to but it was like driking 190 moonshine. nearly killed me
[07:59] <nkh> Jakman85: ok Sorry to boring you :D , I'm really in stress of this because i should present the work in 2 days and i've lots of work to do , now should i come up with this :|
[08:00] <alex__> nose it the new ubuntu it doesnt have sistem on the top
[08:00] <WXZ> how do I open a cmap file?
[08:00] <noisewaterphd> alex__, oh, Unity
[08:00] <noisewaterphd> alex__, ya I don't know man, I hate unity, it's still there somewhere
[08:01] <Jakman85> gogeta, LOL, i came from windows 7 and compiz'd SuSE with beryl... talk about overdose of moonshine when you write in flames, the desktop is on a cube, and every window is like jello
[08:01] <gogeta> noisewaterphd: i hated it so i built without it
[08:01] <alex__> no it ubuntu 11.04
[08:02] <gogeta> Jakman85: i always turned that off but then unity and gnome 3 said nope your stuck with it and i said time to change my beer
[08:02] <caoxiaomin> 哪位高手知道如何把UBUNTU的任务栏给隐藏掉
[08:02] <fairuz> alex__ the menu is still there
[08:02] <noisewaterphd> alex__, ya 11.04 uses unity for the desktop rather than gnome
[08:03] <noisewaterphd> alex__, hit the ubuntu button and just type: Additional Drivers
[08:03] <fairuz> Try click on the Application and choose sub menu System
[08:03] <noisewaterphd> should find it
[08:03] <alex__> well i try to find it
[08:03] <nkh> gogeta: how can i remove this eth1 and setup my ethernet card from scratch, or just reset it's configs?!
[08:03] <fairuz> Application (on the launcher)
[08:03] <Jakman85> gogeta, i understand, i will say that "normal" (aka, not technical people) find unity to be a life saver... i got my girlfriend to use ubuntu on her laptop as her main OS and she knows 0 about computers
[08:03] <[CBH]Edward> Guys, JAVA question
[08:03] <gogeta> nkh: look in your network amanger you should be able to delete any settings
[08:03] <[CBH]Edward> How can I automatically accept the DLJ license for java
[08:03] <noisewaterphd> [CBH]Edward, in #ubuntu, seriously?
[08:03] <[CBH]Edward> It's a ubuntu question
[08:03] <alex__> found it
[08:03] <[CBH]Edward> On ubuntu noisewaterphd
[08:04] <noisewaterphd> java is java man
[08:04] <[CBH]Edward> Bash scripting for ubuntu
[08:04] <nkh> gogeta: from there i cannot remove this eth1 device !
[08:04] <noisewaterphd> bash is bash man
[08:04] <[CBH]Edward> Is it not a parameter for apt-get?
[08:04] <gogeta> nkh: it should say in  wired eth 1 and its settings
[08:04] <alex__> broadcom sta wireless driver
[08:04] <LigH> Greetings.
[08:04] <fairuz> [CBH]Edward: #bash
[08:04] <Jakman85> good night everyone
[08:04] <alex__> this driver is activated and currently in use
[08:05] <gogeta> nkh: and delete
[08:05] <safejav> [CBH]Edward: i dont know how to accept it automatically, but if u only need to accept that, hit the arrow keys
[08:05] <nkh> gogeta: the problem is not with connections , is with the device driver , there i have nothing named eth1 , is just a Autho Ethernet which is my Current connection Using USB of my Adsl modem !
[08:05] <LigH> How do I separate several alternative DNS servers in the IPv4 configuration? Comma / semicolon / space?
[08:05] <noisewaterphd> [CBH]Edward, what do you mean automatically accept? just accept it and move on
[08:06] <gogeta> nkh: so its working?
[08:06] <gogeta> nkh: your modem may be showing up as eth 1
[08:06] <safejav> noisewaterphd: i think he is doing several installations
[08:06] <gogeta> nkh: being its usb
[08:06] <bullgard4> LigH: "the IPv4 configuration" is an ambiguous term. Please refine your question.
[08:06] <GSF1200S> noisewaterphd: know anything about conky? conky is hanging my logout because I have it cat'ing the contents of a file. The file is in a RAM tmpfs..
[08:07] <alex__> mm i think i should delete it and find on google the right driver
[08:07] <noisewaterphd> safejav, I usually just install java once
[08:07] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[08:07] <noisewaterphd> GSF1200S, nope, sorry man
[08:07] <GSF1200S> noisewaterphd, k, thanks :)
[08:07] <nkh> gogeta: The USB0 is available in ifconfig and has ip , i'm connecting with that now, but the networkmanager says it is an Auto Ethernet , While it was Auto USB before :-??
[08:08] <noisewaterphd> alex__, no, just reboot
[08:08] <gogeta> nkh: humm
[08:08] <LigH> bullgard4: Ubuntu 11.04 Classic (Gnome); upper right bar: Network symbol; Configure connection (or whatever it is called in english, I have a german system); eth0; IPv4
[08:08] <alex__> noise but i did it
[08:08] <alex__> i think so
[08:08] <alex__> idk
[08:08] <alex__> well im gonna reboot
[08:08] <gogeta> nkh: so your onbord lan isnt working?
[08:08] <noisewaterphd> alex__, great, now reboot
[08:09] <nkh> gogeta: Yes , exactly
[08:09] <gogeta> nkh: try sudo lspci
[08:09] <LigH> bullgard4: Static setup.
[08:09] <gogeta> nkh: see if its in the list
[08:09] <nkh> gogeta: Yes it's in there , i tried
[08:09] <gogeta> nkh: sudi ifup eth0
[08:09] <gogeta> sudo
[08:09] <noisewaterphd> gogeta, eth0 used to work for him, installed something, networking is screwed now
[08:09] <gogeta> nkh: see if it turns on
[08:10] <noisewaterphd> gogeta, is the summary so far if i remember correctly
[08:10] <nkh> gogeta: ifup says : Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[08:10] <gogeta> noisewaterphd: yep but his usb nic is fine only the onbord died
[08:11] <gogeta> nkh: you might wanna check to see if the card just hasent died
[08:11] <gogeta> nkh: start off the live cd or something
[08:11] <nkh> gogeta: :(
[08:12] <alex__> i just needed to reboot -_-
[08:12] <nkh> gogeta: ok i'll try this , So what is that eth1 device? ifup eth1 says it's configured ! :-??
[08:12] <nkh> gogeta: sudo ifup eth1 : ifup: interface eth1 already configured
[08:12] <gogeta> nkh: i think eth1 is relly 0 and some odd config has renamed it
[08:13] <nkh> gogeta: how can i remove this eth1 devoce?!
[08:13] <jpds> gogeta: That would be /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[08:13] <nkh> gogeta: device*
[08:14] <LigH> bullgard4: http://frupic.frubar.net/20556 -- how to add a second DNS server here, how to separate the second address from the first?
[08:14] <nkh> gogeta: in /etc/network/interfaces i just hav this auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[08:14] <gogeta> nkh: he gave ya the answer
[08:14] <jpds> nkh: You could try deleting the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file, and rebooting.
[08:14] <princej88> exit
[08:14] <nkh> jpds: Owk Thanks! I'll try this now
[08:14] <krambiorix> hi guys, in ubuntu 10.04 LTS , i can't modify /etc/network/interfaces... (E45: 'readonly' option is set (add ! to override) ) what can i do??
[08:14] <nkh> gogeta: cheers
[08:15] <gogeta> krambiorix: sudo
[08:15] <bullgard4> LigH: Vielleicht hilft Dir das weiter: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/interfaces
[08:15] <jpds> krambiorix: Open it as root?
[08:15] <nkh> gogeta: i'll try this and be back , Thanks
[08:15] <krambiorix> gogeta , i am root
[08:15] <gogeta> nkh:  hope heh
[08:15] <ikonia> krambiorix: then add ! as it says wq!
[08:15] <alex__> where is nose?
[08:16] <alex__> mm thx nose wherever u are :)
[08:16] <nkh> gogeta: :D heh i know I may never be back with this :D
[08:16] <nkh> ;)
[08:16] <krambiorix> ikonia, then it still has not been saved
[08:16] <gogeta> krambiorix: oh vi !save
[08:16] <gogeta> krambiorix: just as it said
[08:16] <jpds> nkh: The file gets autogenerated on reboot.
[08:16] <LigH> bullgard4: Ja - wenn da in der config ein Leerzeichen üblich ist, dann im Dialog wohl auch...
[08:16] <ikonia> krambiorix: yes it has
[08:16] <charlie> hi
[08:16] <nkh> jpds: ok Thanks :)
[08:17] <Guest93595> hi
[08:17] <gogeta> jpds: whatever he played with i think it tryed to bind and borked his configs
[08:17] <jpds> gogeta: Nice.
[08:17] <gogeta> jpds: bridge rather
[08:17] <LigH> Thanks. Bye. \o
[08:18] <gogeta> jpds: its like if you use aircrack it will givbe your interfaces odd anmes
[08:18] <gogeta> names
[08:19] <noisewaterphd> alex__, no problem
[08:19] <LigH> bullgard4: http://ww1.4hf.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/ubuntu-netzwerk05-244x300.png - da gehts auch mit Komma ... vielleicht ist das relativ flexibel.
[08:19] <eroomde> Hello. I am about to give up and install windows unless anyone can provide me with any hope of non-useless flash implimentation for 64-bit. It's made the internet basically unusable for me
[08:20] <P-G-M> anyone want to talk about wave partical duality?
[08:20] <rww> !ot | P-G-M
[08:20] <mrdeb> eroomde: there is a working flash file
[08:20] <P-G-M> this is ubuntu
[08:20] <ikonia> eroomde: the package flashplugin-nonfree should provide a 32bit flashplayer with a 64bit wrapper that is normally quite effective.
[08:20] <gogeta> eroomde: flash 64 is still beta i beleve
[08:20] <noisewaterphd> eroomde, flash 10.3 64bit for linux works fine
[08:20] <mrdeb> eroomde: hold on, i will find you the 64 bit version
[08:20] <ikonia> P-G-M: ou wave partcial discussion has nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:21] <noisewaterphd> eroomde, what is your issue exactly
[08:21] <P-G-M> it does if you have it installed
[08:21] <ikonia> P-G-M: what is your ubuntu question then ?
[08:21] <mrdeb> noise i am gonig to link it for him
[08:21] <mrdeb> going
[08:22] <noisewaterphd> mrdeb, cool
[08:22] <alex__> mm now that i have ubuntu what should i install??
[08:22] <P-G-M> why would i have questions
[08:22] <Addy> Hey guys. I tried booting up an 11.04 live CD, but when it reaches the desktop it hangs
[08:22] <fairuz> alex__: codecs?
[08:22] <ikonia> P-G-M: because this is an ubuntu support channel,
[08:22] <fairuz> :D
[08:22] <gogeta> noisewaterphd: alex__apps
[08:22] <gogeta> lots of apps
[08:22] <P-G-M> thats becuase its rubbigsh Addy
[08:22] <P-G-M> get a mac
[08:22] <noisewaterphd> gogeta, wha?
[08:23] <fairuz> P-G-M: -1
[08:23] <alex__> i think i will get apps with time when i need them
[08:23] <Wisien> hi
[08:23] <noisewaterphd> gogeta, oh, ya alex__, just whatever you need man
[08:23] <alex__> i have a question :)
[08:23] <gogeta> noisewaterphd: the ops be vengfull today
[08:23] <Wisien> What program is for running windows programs on ubuntu?
[08:23] <fairuz> alex__: Maybe at first you need some codecs, flash, java
[08:24] <rww> !wine | Wisien
[08:24] <alex__> does ams make videocalls with hotmail contacts?
[08:24] <fairuz> something to get the daily tasks done
[08:24] <Wisien> !wine
[08:24] <bullgard4> Addy: It probably writes someething on the screen. Please report what you see on the screen.
[08:24] <Addy> so anyways, does anyone know why my liveCD is hanging before it boots up properly?
[08:24] <alex__> tell me hot to get them fairuz
[08:24] <Addy> bullgard4: I see the cursor, I can move it for a few seconds. There's a purplish desktop background
[08:24] <alex__> amsn
[08:24] <Addy> otherwise blank
[08:25] <thinktank809> thank you all... found out that if i use the 64bit version the full capacity of RAID is available
[08:25] <bullgard4> Addy: What is then the effect of pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[08:25] <Addy> didn't try that
[08:25] <Addy> what would that do?
[08:25] <noisewaterphd> alex__, just looking through the ubuntu software center you should find some cool stuff
[08:25] <charlie_> hi
[08:26] <bullgard4> Addy: This will normally open a virtutual terminal. There you can input command-line commands.
[08:26] <bullgard4> Addy: This will normally open a virtual terminal. There you can input command-line commands.
[08:26] <mustafa> hello for all
[08:26] <charlie_> i am in the Natty Narwhal support group. so if you have Natty Narwhal and questions tell me.
[08:27] <mustafa> i want ask about what is new in ubuntu 11.04
[08:27] <Addy> well, I'm fairly sure it was frozen, not accepting input
[08:27] <bullgard4> !ask | mustafa
[08:27] <Addy> I'd have to restart and boot it up again to try that out
[08:27] <fairuz> Addy: Maybe your CD is corrupted?
[08:27] <bullgard4> Addy: You better make that sure
[08:27] <mustafa> what is new in 11.04
[08:27] <Addy> fairuz: perhaps, should I check the checksum?
[08:28] <noisewaterphd> mustafa, Unity
[08:28] <alex__> wtf what ctrl alt f1??
[08:28] <gogeta> noisewaterphd: lol are frends with the funky network didnt come back bet it did fix such a thankless job
[08:28] <alex__> it turned off my laptop 0.O
[08:28] <noisewaterphd> ya
[08:28] <fairuz> Addy: Burn with the slowest speed.
[08:28] <gogeta> alex__: lol that drops you to a bash term ctrl alt f7 brings the ui back
[08:28] <bullgard4> !language | alex__
[08:28] <ZykoticK9> alex__, virtual terminal - use alt+f7 to get back to GUI
[08:28] <mustafa> its good inter face
[08:28] <alex__> sorry :(
[08:29] <noisewaterphd> mustafa, I hate it
[08:29] <noisewaterphd> mustafa, I prefer gnome
[08:29] <Addy> fairuz: I did. It took like half an hour to burn. The cd is a very old CD-RW though so maybe that's why
[08:29] <gogeta> alex__: or accersys termnel
[08:29] <ZykoticK9> !classic | noisewaterphd
[08:29] <alex__> oh alt f7 i got it
[08:29] <noisewaterphd> mustafa, but to each his own, try it out
[08:29] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, ya man, done deal long ago
[08:29] <alex__> it asked me for a password nd i used mine and it didnt work
[08:30] <mustafa> noisewaterphd i try it but its not use full
[08:30] <mustafa> its to bad
[08:30] <gogeta> alex__: heh will you dont need to spend any time there unless something is wrong
[08:30] <mustafa> and hard to use it
[08:30] <alex__> i wont do it again
[08:30] <noisewaterphd> mustafa, well as ZykoticK9 just botted, it's simple to just use gnome2
[08:31] <gogeta> alex__: lol alt f7 brings you back to the gui
[08:31] <lindi-> is there some common way to tile windows in gnome? I googled around and found all sorts of unofficial solutions that are not in ubuntu. Most promising seems to be http://www.giuspen.com/x-tile/
[08:31] <dinkyd00> dumb question: can I make ubuntu NOT require sudo?
[08:31] <alex__> i like to learn ubuntu :D
 what is new think in 11.4 or just new interface
[08:31] <gogeta> alex__: thats just linux in genrel
[08:31] <Totem-Schalter> try sudo -i
[08:31] <Totem-Schalter> i think
[08:31] <alex__> how do i get codects nd jaba nd stuff?
[08:31] <bullgard4> dinkyd00: You should not!
[08:31] <alex__> java
[08:31] <dinkyd00> eh?!?
[08:31] <noisewaterphd> mustafa, all kinds of stuff man, hit the website and check it out
[08:32] <dinkyd00> sudo make me a sandwich
[08:32] <fairuz> alex__: Open synaptics
[08:32] <fairuz> you know that right>
[08:32] <fairuz> ?
[08:32] <gogeta> alex__: the quick way apt-get install jre
[08:32] <mustafa> noisewaterphd thanks for help
[08:32] <alex__> uhmm yeah wait
[08:32] <dinkyd00> my name is alex.  you guys are wierding me out
[08:32] <noisewaterphd> alex__, I prefer apt-get from the cli, but ubuntu software center is a nice gui
[08:32] <gogeta> alex__: or search java threw softwhere store
[08:32] <fairuz> you can install all the things you want from there
[08:32] <ZykoticK9> !java | alex__
[08:33] <alex__> ok ill search java first
[08:33] <alex__> uh?
[08:33] <alex__> is easier if i click that link?
[08:33] <ZykoticK9> alex__, be sure to add the partner repo if you want Sun-java6-*
[08:33] <noisewaterphd> alex__, I recommend you install java6-sun, not the open jdk. sun version is in the partner repo I believe
[08:33] <dinkyd00> hmph no really tho .. I don't mind using sudo, I know it keeps things in user space, but what would I have to do to make ubuntu NOT require sudo?
[08:33] <gogeta> alex__: no lol
[08:34] <noisewaterphd> dinkyd00, sudo bash
[08:34] <noisewaterphd> makes the rest of the session root
[08:34] <MikeMurdock> whats up fools
[08:34] <dinkyd00> noise: haha quick fix, eh?  thanx!!
[08:34] <alex__> -_- ill write java in the software finder thing
[08:34] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, that's not really correct!  use "sudo -i" to get a root terminal.  dinkyd00
[08:35] <gogeta> alex__: i always use sysanpitc witch is also installed to enable all the repos and just search java from there its a little more powerfull then softwhere store
[08:35] <dinkyd00> zy: cool
[08:35] <alex__> gogeta ok wait
[08:36] <gogeta> alex__: or click the link lol
[08:36] <dinkyd00> cool cool
[08:36] <dinkyd00> thanks everyone
[08:36] <jpds> MikeMurdock: Hi.
[08:36] <dinkyd00> gnite (it's 230 in mid-america)
[08:36] <alex__> no no no i want sysanpitc
[08:36] <alex__> but i dont know how to do it
[08:36] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, sudo bash works just as well
[08:37] <gogeta> alex__: ok that think was over complex
[08:37] <jpds> noisewaterphd: Err.
[08:37] <jpds> noisewaterphd: Use: sudo -i
[08:37] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, actually, it probably doesn't
[08:37] <Starminn> I am having problems with the notifications on Ubuntu 10.10. Instead of the bubbles, I get a pop-up window now. http://imagebin.org/161346 Any assistance is of course appreciated.
[08:37] <alex__> teach me!!!
[08:37] <fairuz> alex__: Open synaptics, then just search the thing that you want on the search field
[08:37] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, I'd love to hear why
[08:37] <bullgard4> [Natty] In addition to a German keyboard layout I installed a Russian keyboard layout. I can switch between them using Indicator Applet Complete 0.4.12. How can I switch between them  using a keyboard shortcut?
[08:37] <athnam> .
[08:37] <fairuz> alex__: Do you managed to find synaptics?
[08:37] <gogeta> alex__: it didnt have any sort of guide heh just info abought changes
[08:37] <Starminn> They're allegedly getting rid of Synaptic anyway in the next few versions
[08:37] <jpds> bullgard4: Yes.
[08:38] <alex__> i dont know where is synaptics
[08:38] <gogeta> Starminn: yea but it will still be in the repo so simple apt-get its back
[08:38] <dr_willis> Starminn,  just not being installed by default. from what i hear. that was also planned in the last release.
[08:38] <fairuz> System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[08:38] <bullgard4> jpds: What do you refer to?
[08:38] <Starminn> Ah.
[08:39] <jpds> bullgard4: Under "Optionen", go to "Taste(n) zum Wechseln der Belegung".
[08:39] <alex__> fairuz i have the new ubuntu
[08:39] <alex__> clear thing
[08:39] <noisewaterphd> so nobody knows why sudo -i is so much better than sudo bash
[08:39] <jpds> noisewaterphd: Because it sets the user environment properly.
[08:39] <fairuz> Click on top left corner
[08:39] <fairuz> then type synaptic
[08:39] <dr_willis> one of these days theya re going to have to just bite the bullet and go to a dvd.iso by default and get over the 700mb cd size.
[08:39] <sako> hey guys, i have a minor annoyance, i can't figure out why the plymouth splash screen wont run?
[08:39] <dr_willis> sako,  whats your video chipset?
[08:40] <noisewaterphd> the guy didn't want to be root
[08:40] <sako> nvidia
[08:40] <noisewaterphd> he wanted to not type sudo
[08:40] <thedude1> my external dvd drive won't mount or anything, although it does show up in dmesg as "scsi 34:0:0:0: CD-ROM            QSI      DVD/CDRW SBW-081 NE02 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0". it is powered externally and there is a disc in the drive.
[08:40] <sako> GeForce GT420
[08:40] <gogeta> alex__: from there slect repos and enable em all
[08:40] <alex__> ok
[08:40] <dr_willis> sako,  theres known issues with plmouth and the nvidia drivers.. personally i disable plymouth.
[08:40] <jpds> bullgard4: "Optionen" under "Tastatureinschtellungen" → "Belegungen", that is.
[08:40] <sako> dr_willis: i see
[08:40] <gogeta> alex__: should be 4 checkboxes in total
[08:40] <noisewaterphd> so lets ponder why we care if the user environment was "set properly"
[08:40] <dr_willis> sako,  theres literally dozens of pages with 'fix nvidia and plymouth' guides.. some of them can break the system.
[08:41] <sako> dr_willis: ah not worth it ;)
[08:41] <sako> thanks
[08:41] <ZykoticK9> sako, if you REALLY want, there is a script linked on webupd8 that fixes nvidia/ati plymouth
[08:41] <jpds> noisewaterphd: Well, there's no other way, "not to type sudo" without being rootl.
[08:41] <alex__> gogeta in package there are like a lot o.O
[08:41] <sako> ZykoticK9: wheres that at?
[08:41] <gogeta> alex__: the repo menu
[08:42] <noisewaterphd> we are talking 'environment' here
[08:42] <ZykoticK9> sako, http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/script-to-fix-ubuntu-plymouth-for.html
[08:42] <gogeta> alex__: you should see manage repos from that
[08:42] <noisewaterphd> he didn't care about being root
[08:42] <gogeta> alex__: from there you can enable partner
[08:42] <dr_willis> ZykoticK9,  and some times it even works.     :)
[08:42] <fryman> Hi guys; I'm trying to get the internal mic working on the original macbook air in natty. Following the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir1-1/Hardy doesn't seem to work. So, I suppose my question is which kernel module should I be using?
[08:42] <thedude1> my external dvd drive won't mount or anything, although it does show up in dmesg as "scsi 34:0:0:0: CD-ROM            QSI      DVD/CDRW SBW-081 NE02 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0". it is powered externally and there is a disc in the drive.
[08:42] <Flannel> noisewaterphd: I'm not sure what you're going on about, but 'sudo bash' wouldn't make him not root either.
[08:42] <noisewaterphd> he wanted to not type sudo for a session, sudo bash works just fine for purposes asked
[08:42] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, ya - I too have had mixed results
[08:43] <noisewaterphd> Flannel, no kidding, not the point
[08:43] <alex__> the only menus are 2
[08:43] <dr_willis> ZykoticK9,  ive had 4 out of 4 fail. :)
[08:43] <athnam> the channel seems to have stopped working.
[08:43] <alex__> all and package
[08:43] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, that's not good - I certainly have had it work
[08:43] <gogeta> alex__: hua
[08:43] <dr_willis> ZykoticK9,  one reason im always comming down on plymouth.  eyecandy that makes trouble shooting harder.
[08:43] <Flannel> noisewaterphd: You don't seem to have a clear understanding of what you're talking about.  So lets just drop it, and in the future, please suggest sudo -i instead of sudo bash.  Thanks.
[08:44] <noisewaterphd> the point is people jump up and down with Err!, when in reality it would have worked out for him just fine. He did not say 'how do I become root from the cli'
[08:44] <droidman101> dr_willis: yes, i agree that theyll have to use dvds...but i use a usb stick anyways so i could care less
[08:44] <gogeta> alex__: doesent unity hide the menus
[08:44] <noisewaterphd> Flannel, no I have a very clear understanding of what I am talking about
[08:44] <dr_willis> droidman101,  yea. or they may have to even get rid of 'wubi' :)
[08:44] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, "get rid of wubi" +1
[08:44] <gogeta> alex__: so it would be like on the top right menu
[08:45] <Flannel> noisewaterphd: If you'd like to continue this, I invite you to join me in #ubuntu-offtopic.  Lets keep this channel clear of the noise.
[08:45] <fairuz> alex__: In synaptic, you have the Quick Filter at the top.
[08:45] <alex__> mm cant i take screen shots here?
[08:45] <gogeta> alex__: top left rather
[08:46] <fairuz> For example, if you want to install amsn, just type amsn in the field
[08:46] <thedude1> my external dvd drive won't mount or anything, although it does show up in dmesg as "scsi 34:0:0:0: CD-ROM            QSI      DVD/CDRW SBW-081 NE02 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0". it is powered externally and there is a disc in the drive.
[08:46] <alex__> top right
[08:46] <noisewaterphd> Flannel, tell Ubuntu to recommend sudo -i instead of sudo bash all over in the docs, and I'll do the same.
[08:46] <alex__> the quick filter
[08:46] <jpds> noisewaterphd: It does.
[08:46] <dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[08:46] <gogeta> alex__: i dunnoi how unity has your ,layout cant help there
[08:46] <dr_willis> ive filed many a bug/report correcting  incorrect 'sudo to root' ussage.
[08:46] <noisewaterphd> jpds, and it doesn't
[08:46] <Flannel> noisewaterphd: Lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, tanks.
[08:47] <gogeta> alex__: i guess you can screen and image shack it or somnethin
[08:47] <droidman101> dr_willis: yah, i thought wubi was a bad idea, i mean, ubuntu is a very easy-to-use OS but if you cant figure out how to install it properly you probably wont have tons of patience
[08:48] <fairuz> gogeta: What's alex__ searching?
[08:48] <gogeta> fairuz: to enable all the repos threw synaptic
[08:48] <droidman101> which leads to infinitely more "my internet isnt working" "what is your wifi card" "its called bcm4318 or something" "did you install ndiswrapper" "whats ndiswrapper?"
[08:49] <gogeta> fairuz: i avoide unity like a very bad plage so i cant give him the exact locations of stuff
[08:49] <alex__> 38343007f31b3edfc808f3138776005d
[08:49] <VectorX> from the repos in /etc/apt/sources.list , where can i find the files that would have the individual package info ?
[08:50] <alex__> thats the code of the pic online thing
[08:50] <fairuz> gogeta: Did you mean to enable Canonical Partners repo?
[08:50] <dr_willis> !screenshot
[08:50] <gogeta> fairuz: yea
[08:50] <fairuz> alex__: Try this
[08:50] <fairuz> Top menu, Settings -> Repositories
[08:50] <fairuz> Then go Other software
[08:50] <gogeta> < kills self
[08:51] <ZykoticK9> fairuz, it's been moved to Ubuntu Software Center
[08:51] <fairuz> gogeta: That one?
[08:51] <ZykoticK9> !partner
[08:51] <gogeta> they made its own thing now did they
[08:51] <fairuz> ZykoticK9: Oh ok
[08:51] <alex__> http://imagebin.org/161347
[08:51] <alex__> thats the pic
[08:51] <ZykoticK9> fairuz, oh sorry, those where synaptic direction (it MAY still be there)
[08:51] <gogeta> alex__: its in setting repos i think
[08:52] <fairuz> alex__: try setting -> repo -> other software
[08:52] <alex__> ok
[08:52] <gogeta> fairuz: i think they made it part of the main he just checks the box
[08:53] <balooo> hey, I'm trying to install ubuntu over the network
[08:53] <alex__> where is setthings?
[08:53] <balooo> but I do not have control of the dhcp server
[08:53] <alex__> o.O
[08:53] <balooo> is this still possible?
[08:53] <gogeta> alex__: lol
[08:53] <benplaut> how much of a gigantic hassle is it going to be to get gtk-1.2 on maverick?
[08:53] <Luxe> I'm so happy ^.^
[08:54] <gogeta> balooo: if you can set a static ip yes
[08:54] <alex__> :P i went to settings but i couldnt find it
[08:54] <mynotes> how to restore panel on ubuntu to their default setting?
[08:54] <fairuz> gogeta: If you want to help him/her with ease, I suggest you ask him/her to relog in Ubuntu classic
[08:54] <fairuz> :D
[08:54] <ZykoticK9> !panels | mynotes
[08:54] <balooo> gogeta: so set a static IP on the machine serving ubuntu?  or the machine i'm installing it on?
[08:54] <dr_willis> mynotes,  unity --replace, or unity --reset  or unity --reset-icons
[08:55] <dr_willis> mynotes,  if using unity. Then theres a command to reset compiz to defaults.
[08:55] <gogeta> balooo: i dont knoe your netowork setup but if its dhcp it should just work
[08:55] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, nice!  I guess !panels should be updated
[08:55] <alex__> in synaptic settings there is no repo
[08:56] <noisewaterphd> alex__, the confusion is a change between < 10.10 and 11
[08:56] <gogeta> alex__: lol lemmie turn my linux box on
[08:56] <ZykoticK9> alex__, use USC or the cli command !partner gave above
[08:56] <aspirin> hi, why i cant make work my vpn in ubuntu and in windows i havent problems?
[08:56] <noisewaterphd> alex__, you should be able to enable the partner repos and everything from within ubuntu software center regardless of what tab it is now under
[08:57] <dr_willis> ZykoticK9,  lots of things need updated.. but the LTS is still supported for some time.. so its a bit of a hassle for doc writers :)
[08:57] <alex__> wait
[08:57] <alex__> i can change to the old ubuntu thing
[08:57] <alex__> i saw it in the page
[08:57] <gogeta> alex__: yes ubuntu classic
[08:57] <alex__> yes that
[08:57] <ZykoticK9> !classic
[08:57] <alex__> should i do it?
[08:57] <bullgard4> jpds: I pressed System > Preferences > Keyboard > Keyboard Preferences > Layouts > Russioan > Options (Keyboard Layout Options) > Key(s) tochange layout > Both Alt keys together asserted > Close > Close. I rebooted. Why does the keyboad shortcut Alt+AltGr have no effect?
[08:58] <dr_willis> alex__,  if you want a more classic-like-the-old-gnome desktop,. yes
[08:58] <gogeta> alex__: you shure thers no repo in settings
[08:58] <dr_willis> but even that is going away in the next release i hear.
[08:58] <gogeta> alex in the sysanpic menu
[08:58] <alex__> i swear ill send u a pic
[08:58] <gogeta> i looked in mine its there
[08:58] <alex__> yes
[08:58] <aspirin> why is so difficult to make work a vpn in ubuntu and in windows is so easy?
[08:59] <gogeta> alex__: well you can do the partner diections
[08:59] <alex__> nooo i found it
[08:59] <ZykoticK9> aspirin, windows is better/easier - is that the answer you are looking for?
[08:59] <gogeta> alex__: lol
[08:59] <alex__> repositories
[09:00] <alex__> :( sorry
[09:00] <jpds> bullgard4: One second.
[09:00] <Starminn> I am having problems with the notifications on Ubuntu 10.10. Instead of the bubbles, I get a pop-up window now. http://imagebin.org/161346 Any assistance is of course appreciated.
[09:00] <gogeta> alex__: the working is still diffrent but just make shure there all checked
[09:00] <alex__> just source code is not cheked :)
[09:01] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, what is "notify-sharp"?
[09:01] <aspirin> zykotick9, sorry but i have an ubuntu so full like in my windows  but i want to have a vpn client too
[09:01] <gogeta> alex__: nice you relise if you check install 3rd party at install they are aruldy insateed
[09:01] <gogeta> installed
[09:01] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, http://www.ndesk.org/NotifySharp - barf, good luck.
[09:01] <Starminn> ZykoticK9: It's the window that pops up now whenever I get a new message (like in IRC now) or change tracks on my media player
[09:01] <ill0gic> hello
[09:02] <Starminn> ZykoticK9: Bleh. Could I just uninstall it?
[09:02] <dr_willis> Starminn,  you mean the notify-osd thing  top right corner. black, if you get more then 1 message they sort of stack up...
[09:02] <alex__> mm ye
[09:02] <Starminn> dr_willis: That's what used to happen. Now that screenshot appears. Nothing at the top-right now
[09:02] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, ? --- sorry I'm a very anti-Mono person, thus the "barf"
[09:02] <gogeta> alex__: lol if you go to youtube or soemthing and videos play you probly aruldy setup
[09:02] <Starminn> ZykoticK9: I agree.
[09:03] <dr_willis> Starminn,  i havwe to wonder what 'notify-sharp' is in that title of that screenshot.
[09:03] <ill0gic> i get this message when i try to reproduce youtube on totem unde xubuntu 10.04 : gstreamer encountered a general supporting library error . Can anyone tell me what's the problem ?
[09:03] <Starminn> It's apparently the notification daemon
[09:03] <dr_willis> Starminn,  could be somthing you installed replaced the notify-osd system
[09:03] <alex__> gogeta u mean to download the codecs?
[09:03] <jpds> bullgard4: So I have "Taste(n) zum Wechseln der Belegnung" set to "Linke Windows-Taste" and "Verhalten der Feststelltaste" set to "Feststelltaste als zuzaetzliche Super-Taste verwenden". And pressing the "Windows" key sets the layout between UK/RU layouts.
[09:03] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, it's a 3rd party mono-app that i linked too above
[09:03] <alex__> or i got them already? o.O
[09:03] <Starminn> dr_willis: I still have notify-osd
[09:03] <dr_willis> I dont recall the notify osd thing ever having dialog buttons like that. :) but im in KDE at the moment.
[09:03] <gogeta> alex__: if you checked the box at install you should if not it will simply ask
[09:03] <dr_willis> ZykoticK9,  mono... argh.. :) heh..
[09:04] <Starminn> I'm going to try just uninstalling it
[09:04] <alex__> ye then i got the codecs already
[09:04] <gogeta> alex__: just make shure you slect the right flash adobe
[09:04] <gogeta> :)
[09:06] <Starminn> dr_willis ZykoticK9: It's coming up as libnotify0.4-cil for the package name. Should that be alright to uninstall..?
[09:06] <bullgard4> jpds: Hm. So I conclude that I will need to tamper a little bit with these key combinations yet. I cannot use a Windows key because my Thinkpad computer doen't have one. -- Thank you.
[09:06] <alex__> thx :D
[09:06] <alex__> ima go to sleep
[09:06] <dr_willis> Starminn,  You can always reinstall it later i guess.
[09:06] <gogeta> alex__: ubuntu is pretty good abought codecs even if you =dont have them it will say hey i need to install these codecs for this video to play and ask to do it
[09:06] <jpds> bullgard4: That's how I made it work.
[09:07] <bullgard4> jpds: Yes.
[09:07] <alex__> gogeta it kind of ask cuz i pluged in my iphone nd i played music videos nd stuff
[09:08] <gogeta> alex__: hehe
[09:08] <ill0gic> hello channel ... anyone to help with totem problem in xubuntu ?
[09:08] <alex__> illogic  whats wrong
[09:08] <noisewaterphd> alex__, also there was a bug in a recent firefox (64 bit) where flash was pretty sketchy, I have no idea if it was fixed yet, but just FYI it works fine in Chrome idea if i
[09:09] <ZykoticK9> !tab > alex__
[09:09] <ill0gic> alex__, i get this error message when i try to playback from youtbe : GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.
[09:09] <alex__> noise i use 64 bit nd firifos is working fine
[09:10] <noisewaterphd> alex__, good to know, must have been fixed
[09:10] <Starminn> dr_willis: Alright, what the heck. It's still there after being removed. Should I purge and log out or just log out/in?
[09:10] <alex__> noise nd gogeta lets help illogic :)
[09:10] <alex__> yes nose i can play videos in youtube
[09:10] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, ok
[09:10] <dr_willis> Starminn,  may as well try.
[09:10] <Starminn> noisewaterphd: Chrome ships with its own Flash version. It ignores the system.
[09:10] <noisewaterphd> what browser
[09:10] <Starminn> dr_willis: Fair enough
[09:10] <ill0gic> firefox
[09:10] <ill0gic> updated
[09:11] <ill0gic> 5
[09:11] <noisewaterphd> Starminn, ya
[09:11] <alex__> ima go to sleep bye all nd thx :)
[09:11] <DICTATORS> hi i need a vpn client very easy for install in ubuntu and i wont open ports in my router for use a vpn in ubuntu
[09:11] <nkh> jpds: Hi , I did that , eth1 corrected to eth0 but still there were no connections, i'm with a live disk now, the problem is continuing , eth0 is avail but does not recognize connection when i plug it in , and the USB of my modem is recognized by netw*manager as BroadCom USB network Interface
[09:11] <noisewaterphd> Starminn, which currently works great
[09:11] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, 64bit?
[09:11] <ill0gic> 32
[09:12] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, do you have all the gstreamer stuff installed
[09:13] <Starminn> dr_willis: Could you highlight my name in a message real quick?
[09:13] <ill0gic> i don't really know ... when i tried to playback from youtube he asked to install some gstreamer stuff ... i installed just that . There is more sutff to install ?
[09:13] <dr_willis> Starminn,  moo!
[09:13] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, you probably just need to install the restricted drivers package, have you done that
[09:13] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, FYI ill0gic is trying to use Totem not a browser to play YouTube
[09:13] <dr_willis> brb
[09:13] <Starminn> dr_willis: Oh, I forgot, no bubbles appear when it's the active window anyway. My fault. Alright once more!! :)
[09:14] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, thanks, ya I caught up just now
[09:14] <ill0gic> noisewaterphd, no .. should i look for it in the ubuntu software center ?
[09:14] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, ya, I think it is even called restricted drivers
[09:14] <ill0gic> ZykoticK9, is right ... i am trying to playback from totem
[09:14] <DICTATORS> hi i need a vpn client very easy for install in ubuntu and i wont open ports in my router for use a vpn in ubuntu
[09:15] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, codecs not drivers
[09:15] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:15] <noisewaterphd> install that
[09:15] <noisewaterphd> probably the issue
[09:15] <ill0gic> ok
[09:15] <ill0gic> just a minute
[09:15] <Kane`> quick question: /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't exist. how do i add kernel commands?
[09:16] <noisewaterphd> Kane`, Grub2 doesnt use menu.lst anymore
[09:16] <ZykoticK9> Kane`, /etc/default/grub
[09:16] <ZykoticK9> Kane`, after any changes to that file run "sudo update-grub2"
[09:17] <Kane`> ZykoticK9, i was looking at /etc/default/grub. do i use GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX?
[09:17] <ZykoticK9> Kane`, DEFAULT
[09:17] <Kane`> ZykoticK9, that is currently set to: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet". is this a comma separated list?
[09:18]  * Kane` needs to add "pci=msi"
[09:18] <DICTATORS>  hi i need a vpn client very easy for install in ubuntu and i wont open ports in my router for use a vpn in ubuntu
[09:18] <ZykoticK9> Kane`, i believe it's just a space to separate (but I'm not 100% as in only have one entry as well, but not quiet)
[09:19] <LAvalanche> Kane: it is just a space
[09:19] <Kane`> ZykoticK9, will update-grub2 alert me of errors? or can i expect a broken system if i enter this in wrong? :P
[09:19] <Kane`> two votes for space
[09:19] <Kane`> i'll try that
[09:19] <dr_willis> 'noquiet nosplash nomodeset foo=bar'
[09:19] <ZykoticK9> Kane`, i'm not sure if update-grub2 can detect error?
[09:19] <Kane`> i'll try it out and see what happens
[09:19] <Kane`> thanks for the help ;)
[09:19] <dr-lee_> hi
[09:20] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, foo=bar?
[09:20] <dr_willis> You are passing options that grub then passes to the kernel.  grub2 has no idea what those options do.
[09:20] <dr_willis> so cant give you any errors if they are incorrect
[09:20] <dr_willis> unless you are doing some major typo in the config files. :)
[09:20] <Kane`> dr_willis, i was thinking 'errors' in terms of syntax errors
[09:21] <Kane`> computer booted back up
[09:21] <Kane`> i guess i'm in the clear
[09:21] <dr_willis> in /etc/default/grub --> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash"
[09:21] <dr_willis> for example
[09:21] <dr-lee_> i am having problems with remastersys, the selfmade ubuntu live iso doesnt show a graphical log in, in stucks in a console terminal and says something with nauveau driver and pll error
[09:22] <dr_willis> dr-lee_,  you using a nvidia chipset based system?
[09:22] <dr-lee_> in general, what do you suggest concerning system stability: the opensource nauveau driver or the nvidia one
[09:22] <dr-lee_> no i am using olde intel p35 chipset
[09:22] <ZykoticK9> dr-lee_, it's nouveau BTW
[09:22] <dr-lee_> k
[09:22] <nkh> jpds: Coul you please take a look at this?! http://www.pic.iran-forum.ir/images/yis9m4vql3lr73wq424u.png
[09:22] <dr_willis> the Nouveau driver is for Nvidia chipsets.. not intel.. i can never get nouveau to work for my nvidia systems
[09:23] <dr_willis> I have remastered my own ubuntu cds to include the nvidia driver inteh past.
[09:23] <george__> why my livecd starts with unity, but the installed version don't ?
[09:23] <nkh> jpds: this is what I have now in the live Ubuntu, it still Cant connect to eth0
[09:23] <dr_willis> george__,  driver issues perhaps.
[09:23] <balooo> i'm not sure how to configure static ip addresses when trying to do a network installation of ubuntu?
[09:23] <george__> dr_willis: but all worktd with livecd
[09:24] <george__> worked*
[09:24] <balooo> I basically can't use dhcp, because I'm behind a dhcp router i don't controll
[09:24] <dr-lee_> nauveau is for gpu not for the chipset of the mobo or?
[09:24] <unterschirm>  /msg NickServ identify sugarbunny
[09:24] <unterschirm> whoops!
[09:24] <balooo> are their any guide I could follow?
[09:24] <dr_willis> george__,  so...  Unity not starting, and defaulting to ubuntu-classic - is commonly due to driver issues.
[09:24] <royale1223> hi
[09:24] <dr_willis> dr-lee_,  its a driver for the nvidia video chipsets.
[09:24] <george__> dr_willis: how do i fix it ?
[09:24] <Starminn> dr_willis: Alright, ti worked. Only problem, it uninstalled Banshee with it. I'm going to try reinstalling it. Ihad a bunch of plugins for Banshee and I think that's what did it (since I hear it's in Mono too). One of the Banshee plugins may have a dependncy for that package
[09:24] <dr_willis> george__,  whats your video card/chipset?
[09:25] <royale1223> how can i list all dirs using find?
[09:25] <dr-lee_> ok, you prefer the nvidia driver
[09:25] <dr_willis> dr-lee_,  if using nvidia video cards.. i use the nvidia driver. yes..
[09:25] <george__> dr_willis: i am using a dell vostro 3500
[09:25] <dr-lee_> i heardt that the nvidia driver can make problems in the remastersys live iso
[09:25] <bullgard4> What package contains the file /usr/bin/X? package.ubuntu.com: "keyword too short (keywords need to have at leastr two characters)."
[09:25] <dr_willis> dr-lee_,  if you are not installing to a nvidia system. then it shouldent matter.
[09:25] <dr-lee_> but here it seems my problem is the nouveau driver
[09:26] <dr_willis> dr-lee_,  you are not installing to one of those dual-video card laptops are you? Optmius chipset>? that has intel and nvidia both?
[09:26] <dr-lee_> i am using an old 8400 nvidia gfx card
[09:26] <dr-lee_> no, but i have dual minitor here
[09:26] <dr-lee_> one dvi, one vga
[09:27] <dr-lee_> compiz is not working either, so i have to install the nauveau driver
[09:27] <dr_willis> ive only worked on  a live-usb-with-persistant save - to get nvidia going on them. I do recall issues whith making a nvidia-enabled live cd ages ago.
[09:27] <dr-lee_> i can install compiz, but all the effects like wobbling windows and the cube arent working
[09:27] <fryman> Running natty 64-bit, how do I get my internal mic working? I'm on an intel 82801h chipset.
[09:27] <ZykoticK9> bullgard4, how do you have a system without X(org)?  did you install from mini?
[09:27] <george__> the idea of using a livecd is to know if the system will run on your computer ... but than you install and discover that it will run differently than the live
[09:28] <dr-lee_> there is an option for nvidia drivers in the remastersys menu
[09:28] <dr-lee_> i tried with opensource drivers and it isnt working, now i have to try the nvidia ones
[09:28] <george__> how do i get broadcom menu in ubuntu? i got no wireless too
[09:28] <dr-lee_> thank you all again!
[09:29] <dr-lee_> i asked a question in the debian irc and no one asnwered, these guys have their noses up in the air
[09:29] <royale1223> whats wrong with "find . -type d -exec chmod 744"
[09:30] <dr-lee_> doing a  distroupdate from 11.04 to 11.10 with kernel 3.o generic....works like a charm
[09:31] <kbrown90> is this the room for Ubuntu server?
[09:31] <netsnail> why do i install e1000 module in centos? I found it in kernel modules..
[09:31] <ikonia> netsnail: ask the guys in #centos
[09:31] <Starminn> kbrown90: For all flavors of Linux, yes
[09:31] <ZykoticK9> bullgard4, FYI "dpkg -S /usr/bin/X" shows xserver-xorg on my system - yours is possibly different!!!
[09:31] <Giraffer> When I was 11 years old I visited Neverland Ranch for 3 days and had a ball with Michael Jackson.   We would go gokarting around sipping jesus juice and cuddling.     My favorite moment was when we climbed a tree, and he pulled off my shorts and underoos to stick his nice hot nigger dick into my ass while I grabbed a giraffe's head by the horns to felate me!
[09:31] <dr-lee_> and it great to see how a distrio upgrade happens
[09:31] <Starminn> kbrown90: I mean Ubuntu
[09:32] <ZykoticK9> kbrown90, #ubuntu-server
[09:32] <dr-lee_> c u all laters
[09:32] <dr-lee_> thanks
[09:32] <kbrown90> thats good... can someone give me opinions on which mail server i should run on my Ubuntu Server 10.10
[09:33] <ikonia> kbrown90: it's personal taste, research them based on your reqruirements
[09:34] <kbrown90> google has failed me in that area... me and my father are starting a non profit company and we are wanting to run it all on our own server... got the webserver all ready but we need a mailserver... and don't know which one to go with for a small company.
[09:35] <ill0gic> noisewaterphd, are you here ?
[09:35] <ikonia> kbrown90: the size of the company has nothing to do with it - your reqruirements do, if you can't research a mail server, I suggest you hire someone to manage it for you, as you have no / little chance of running a secure mail service
[09:35] <leagris> kbrown90, if Ubuntu server is in your requirements like pointed by ikonia, then you may have advantages with the packaged and ubuntu supported postfix or exim as any other non packaged will be non-ubuntu specific and require tougher maintenance cycles.
[09:36] <Senjai> So guys
[09:36] <Senjai> Last night I started a discussion on  good programming language to learn for ubuntu
[09:36] <Senjai> Had some good responses
[09:36] <Senjai> But i'd like more opinions on books and sites
[09:36] <Senjai> for learning various languages
[09:36] <ikonia> Senjai: that's not what this channel is here for
[09:36] <ikonia> Senjai: join the channel of the language you want to learn, and ask for advice
[09:36] <Nobgul-bnc> Senjai, you may want to try #ubuntu-offtopic this is a help and support channel
[09:36] <Senjai> For ubuntu?
[09:37] <Lasers> Senjai: There are plenty of great programming books and tutorials on the Internet. You have to start somewhere. Try Python.
[09:37] <ikonia> Senjai: it's nothing to do with ubuntu - the programming languages are languages in their own right
[09:37] <Senjai> Yes will do, sorry ikonia, thought this was the offtopic section. Just switched to irssi not used to it
[09:37] <Nobgul-bnc> Senjai, imho lua =)
[09:37] <Senjai> Lasers: I've programmed in C++/Win32 before. Ill continue however in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:38] <kbrown90> hummm... We are wanting to run everything via Ubuntu Server so yes that would be a requirement, but under webmin i have several different options for mailservers, and the postfix isn't allowing me to configure it at the moment.
[09:39] <ZykoticK9> !webmin | kbrown90
[09:39] <ikonia> kbrown90: webmin is not supported at all, do not use it
[09:40] <Nobgul-bnc> kbrown90, I use EHCP and have no problems with it.
[09:40] <noisewaterphd> Senjai, Lasers, I'd second Python, I'm a C and Java developer by profession, and I've been loving Python
[09:40] <kbrown90> ok, that is news... i can run everything via command line from our server, it's in house and all.
[09:40] <kbrown90> EHCP???
[09:40] <kbrown90> i'm at a lost at what that is
[09:40] <Nobgul-bnc> just google EHCP should be the top hit. Its a web based control panel like webmin
[09:41] <noisewaterphd> lmgtfy.com
[09:41] <dddbmt> what is the "byobu terminal" I see under "Accessories" in 11.04 ?
[09:41] <dddbmt> A new shell?
[09:41] <jack04> hello, any idea how to check a pid's connection port? i have tried ps -ux but that doesn't display what i want
[09:41] <kbrown90> ah i see. i haven't had any problems with webmin as of yet. but then again i'm not running the newest version of Ubuntu server either.
[09:41] <Nobgul-bnc> bring your own back up?
[09:42] <noisewaterphd> dddbmt, it 'pimps' your terminal
[09:42] <ZykoticK9> dddbmt, byobu is like screen (or a re-write/shell of screen perhaps)
[09:42] <dddbmt> So it's just another layout for my terminal?
[09:42] <unomi> Hi, how can I go about increasing the amount of ram that can be allocated to /dev/shm?
[09:43] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:43] <jesus> Hola.
[09:43] <ZykoticK9> !es | jesus
[09:44] <ill0gic> hi again
[09:44] <krambiorix> i'm sorry i ask tihs again cause i had a phone call ...: in ubuntu 10.04 LTS , i can't modify /etc/network/interfaces... (E45: 'readonly' option is set (add ! to override) ) what can i do??
[09:44] <brainwave92> try modifying it from terminal
[09:44] <szal> krambiorix: try with privileges
[09:45] <brainwave92> yup
[09:45] <brainwave92> thats what i meant
[09:45] <ikonia> krambiorix: !wq as I told you earlier
[09:45] <ill0gic> noisewaterphd, are you here ?
[09:45] <DICTATORS> help me i cant make work openvpn neither fppt in ubuntu and i wont open the ports in my router for do it
[09:45] <krambiorix> ikonia, no that didn't work
[09:45] <george__> i don't get it ... why the drivers work in livecd, but doesn't work after installed ?
[09:45] <ikonia> krambiorix: what did it say
[09:46] <krambiorix> ikonia, "interfaces" E212: Can't open file for writing -> after :wq! in vi
[09:46] <ikonia> krambiorix: what command are you using to edit it (exact command pleasE)
[09:46] <ZykoticK9> krambiorix, "sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces" then try
[09:46] <dattebayo> hey guys im having problem with my printer Cannon LBP3000
[09:47] <brainwave92> You have a 32 bit linux or 64 bit?
[09:47] <krambiorix> ZykoticK9, i do sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces  and then :wq!  -> doesn't work
[09:47] <krambiorix> ikonia, i tried sudo vi .... and vi ....
[09:47] <h4l5> ooooops
[09:47] <ikonia> krambiorix: the only option then is your file system is read only and can't be change
[09:48] <ikonia> krambiorix: is this on a livecd or something like that ?
[09:48] <ZykoticK9> krambiorix, to take a step back - why are you modifying this file?
[09:48] <brainwave92> dattebayo, answer my question....what is your linux? 32 bit or 64 bit
[09:49] <krambiorix> ZykoticK9, to add a network interface
[09:49] <DICTATORS> now i have my ubuntu so full like my windows but i havent an vpn for ubuntu yet, help me help me...
[09:49] <dattebayo> 32bit
[09:49] <ZykoticK9> krambiorix, can you answer ikonia's questions as well?
[09:50] <brainwave92> dattebayo, then you can use a script to install the printer, thats the easiest way
[09:50] <krambiorix> ikonia, nope it's a running server
[09:50] <ZykoticK9> krambiorix, to "add a network interface" what do you mean?  to configure one?
[09:50] <krambiorix> ZykoticK9, yes
[09:50] <skilz> whats the terminal command if I want to connect my wifi with no password? I tried 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid NETGEAR' but done nothing
[09:51] <ZykoticK9> krambiorix, could you pastebin the output from "mount"?
[09:51] <skilz> whats the terminal command if I want to connect my wifi with no  password? I tried 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid NETGEAR' but done  nothing
[09:51] <ikonia> krambiorix: please pastebin the output of the command "mount"
[09:51] <brainwave92> skilz, you can try the gui maybe?
[09:52] <krambiorix> ZykoticK9, http://pastebin.com/FbF7mWc2
[09:52] <ZykoticK9> ikonia, ^
[09:52] <krambiorix> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/FbF7mWc2
[09:52] <brainwave92> the network configuration? it displays all the available networks, and allows you to select one
[09:52] <skilz> Im using Fluxbox and Window Maker
[09:52] <brainwave92> dattebayo, whats the problem exactly?
[09:52] <skilz> so I need to do it manually
[09:53] <DICTATORS> now i have my ubuntu so full like my windows but i havent a vpn for ubuntu yet, help me help me... i want a vpn for ubuntu, please
[09:53] <brainwave92> Oh i see....i havent still felt the need to configure any network interface manually, i dont know. Others can help.
[09:53] <brainwave92> so full as in?
[09:53] <brainwave92> space?
[09:53] <szal> !repeat | DICTATORS
[09:53] <ZykoticK9> krambiorix, sorry i've never played with quotas before, nor do i know what /dev/xvda1 is - so good luck, i'm no help
[09:53] <ikonia> krambiorix: what device is xvda ? that's not a normal scsi device id ?
[09:54] <krambiorix> ikonia, ZykoticK9 it's a vps i rent
[09:54] <krambiorix> ikonia, ZykoticK9 i don't know what xvda1 is
[09:54] <ikonia> krambiorix: ahhhh show me the output of the command "uname -a" please.
[09:54] <ikonia> krambiorix: I think I do, uname will tell me
[09:54] <DICTATORS> szal, the hope is the last...
[09:54] <skilz> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:"NETGEAR"   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: E0:91:F5:ED:D5:14
[09:55] <skilz> I can connect to it in xfce but I can't in the console
[09:55] <krambiorix> ikonia, Linux test.test.eu 2.6.32-28-server #55-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 10 23:57:16 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:55] <ikonia> krambiorix: that's a surprisingly normal out put.
[09:56] <roseyposey> ubuntu is a live CD?
[09:56] <brainwave92> roseyposey, yes
[09:56] <dr_willis> roseyposey,  yes. Most disrtos come as live cds thease days
[09:56] <brainwave92> except few....does debian have a live cd yet?
[09:56] <arios> Please someone to help me to start my Skype  web camera
[09:56] <krambiorix> ikonia, i can create files on the filesystem btw
[09:56] <ikonia> krambiorix: good to know,
[09:56] <dr_willis> brainwave92,  ive seen them.. may not be official.. but ive seen debian-live-cds yes.
[09:56] <ZykoticK9> brainwave92, a quasi-official one yes DebianLive
[09:56] <krambiorix> ikonia, it's just the interfaces file
[09:57] <DICTATORS> ok but ubuntu is an os very bad if you want to have a vpn
[09:57] <ikonia> krambiorix: well, it looks like you're running on a xen host, so there is a possability that the host has locked that file
[09:57] <jpds> DICTATORS: No.
[09:57] <roseyposey> thanks brainwave92 and dr_willis I thought so, but haven't experimented in a while.  Pclos user
[09:57] <brainwave92> DICTATORS, now that cant be true!
[09:57] <krambiorix> ikonia, could it be because of ispconfig?
[09:57] <DICTATORS> jpds, no why why why?
[09:57] <ZykoticK9> DICTATORS, if you refuse to open the required ports - how can you expect it to work?
[09:57] <jpds> DICTATORS: Works fine for me.
[09:57] <dr_willis> ssh tunnel perhaps.
[09:57] <AlexDevilLX> Hi All!:)
[09:58] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, i think ssh tunnelling a VPN is rather redundant, isn't it?
[09:58] <ikonia> krambiorix: ahhh very possible, that tool is the devil, it could be looking the file.
[09:59] <noisewaterphd> DICTATORS, vpn is simpleon ubuntu
[09:59] <noisewaterphd> I connect to work through vpn everyday with ubuntu
[09:59] <brainwave92> ZykoticK9, as far as i understand, if a network is already private, like a vpn is, then ssh is redundant
[09:59] <orchata> hi guys, I have a live CD with a lot of apps in there. I don't have a good internet connection right now, so dowloading apps is not an option for me. So I thought if I could extract the deb's from that live cd, but don't know how to do it. The "pool" is only 10 MB, So I guess everything is stored in filesystem.squashfs.  I extracted it, but don't know how to get debs from it.
[09:59] <dr_willis> ZykoticK9,  no idea. I find this channel ofted gets way too many vpn/vps questions that are sort of skirting the 'ubuntu support' area. :)
[10:00] <DICTATORS> zykotick9 in windows  i have 7 vpn and in windows without open ports
[10:00] <noisewaterphd> brainwave92, private meanng it puts you on the private network of where you connect to
[10:00] <dr_willis> I need to read up on vpn some day and see if i can set one up so i can get to  my homepc from work. :) someday
[10:00] <ill0gic> noisewaterphd, i installed the extras but still doesn't work :(
[10:00] <noisewaterphd> brainwave92, ssh as in encrypted traffic, so no, not redundant at all
[10:00] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, tell me the error again
[10:00] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, ya, i've never played with vpn either.  with ssh i don't see the need ;)
[10:01] <brainwave92> noisewaterphd, ok....thanks...i'm just a beginner on networking.....thanks
[10:01] <Starminn> orchata: There's a CD you can get that has many apps. Lemme find the name...
[10:01] <ikonia> krambiorix: would you be able to do a test for me please ?
[10:01] <noisewaterphd> brainwave92, no problem
[10:01] <krambiorix> ikonia, sure
[10:01] <ikonia> krambiorix: ok, do the following, each time feeding back the results if possible
[10:01] <ikonia> krambiorix: sudo -i
[10:01] <dr_willis> ZykoticK9,  yep. same here. I did use some free vpn once ages ago.. but just as a test
[10:02] <Starminn> !aptoncd | orchata
[10:02] <orchata> Starminn: I have the CD  (Ubuntu ultimate edition. It has all the deb's but I don't know how to extract them. Plus I don't want to install it)
[10:02] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, VPN lets your machine act as though you are on the same private network that you are connecting to, not the same thing as ssh at all
[10:02] <szal> !ultimate | orchata
[10:03] <krambiorix> ikonia, i'm already root so no feedback
[10:03] <brainwave92> orchata, u got any leads on it yet?
[10:03] <ikonia> krambiorix: how did you become root ?
[10:03] <orchata> brainwave92:  nope
[10:03] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, oh i know what a VPN does, I just don't see the need ;)  I'm able to do anything "I" need, remotely using SSH
[10:03] <thebomb> sudo su -
[10:03] <krambiorix> ikonia, i logged in as root
[10:03] <ikonia> thebomb: no - that is not correct
[10:03] <krambiorix> ikonia, no other users yet
[10:03] <ikonia> krambiorix: how the ubuntu system should have no root password
[10:03] <orchata> brainwave92:  I just want to know how can I get debs from filesytem.squashfs
[10:03] <thebomb> ikonia, ok sorry
[10:03] <ikonia> krambiorix: ughhh, I guess your ISP has made a "custom" build
[10:04] <ikonia> krambiorix: ok - now do "ls -la /etc/network/interfaces"
[10:04] <dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[10:04] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, well you said that ssh tunneling a vpn was redundant, when it isn't at all, so I was trying to help out by explaining what vpn is
[10:04] <krambiorix> ikonia, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 340 2011-04-28 10:50 /etc/network/interfaces
[10:04] <ill0gic> noisewaterphd, when i try to playback from youtube in totem under xubuntu 10.04 it tells me this : GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.
[10:04] <ikonia> krambiorix: ok - now "touch /etc/network/interfaces"
[10:05] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, i was under the impression the VPN was already encrypted?  Isn't it?
[10:05] <DICTATORS> in windows i have 7 vpn againts the censure but in ubuntu ?? what can i do?
[10:05] <ikonia> krambiorix: that should do nothing, then redo (and post) ls -la /etc/network/interfaces
[10:05] <brainwave92> @all:anyone knows about a 'squashfs' , module?
[10:05] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, no, well, yes, with ssh
[10:05] <ikonia> brainwave92: what about it ?
[10:05] <brainwave92> orchata: http://cufts2.lib.sfu.ca:8033/trac/dbwiz/wiki/LiveCDCustomization read that link, while i do the same
[10:05] <llutz> DICTATORS: are you using networkmanager? install those vpn-plugins, configure it, use it, done
[10:06] <krambiorix> ikonia, touch: cannot touch `/etc/network/interfaces': Permission denied
[10:06] <brainwave92> ikonia, orchata needs to extract a squashfs file, and for doing that, as i understand, you need a module for reading that
[10:06] <jpds> noisewaterphd: wut?
[10:06] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, i think you should read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network
[10:06] <ikonia> krambiorix: ok - your ISP has locked it at the Xen host, that confirms it
[10:06] <faLUCE>  HI. Is it possible to  launch one instance of myprogram displayed at position 100, 100 , another instance of the same myprogram at position 150, 300 and so on?
[10:06] <ikonia> krambiorix: can you show me one last thing the output of the command "id"
[10:06] <dr_willis> The original version of SquashFS used gzip compression, although Linux kernel 2.6.34 added support for LZMA[1] and LZO compression[2], and Linux kernel 2.6.38 added support for xz compression.[3]
[10:06] <ikonia> brainwave92:  it's just a file system, you just mount it
[10:07] <orchata> brainwave92:   I have extracted the squashfs and it looks just the same as my root. I guess it is already installed on the livecd.
[10:07] <krambiorix> ikonia, uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[10:07] <thebomb> never knew about the sudo -i and -s thanks!
[10:07] <edgars> yo
[10:07] <ikonia> krambiorix: confirmed then, your ISP has locked it on the xen hypervisor
[10:07] <DICTATORS> llutz yes i have installed openvpn  and fppt network but dont connet dont work in windows my 7 vpn yes connet yes work
[10:07] <brainwave92> ikonia, so mounting it we can see all the packages stored there?
[10:08] <Nobgul-bnc> what does sudo -s do?
[10:08] <dr_willis> Nobgul-bnc,   check out    http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[10:08] <krambiorix> ikonia, so it's not ISPConfig's fault?
[10:08] <brainwave92> orchata, http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/hacks/opensource/0596527209/i-0596527209-chp-1-sect-4.html
[10:08] <dr_willis> Nobgul-bnc,  gives you a root 'shell'
[10:08] <jpds> DICTATORS: Well, check the logs in /var/log/syslog
[10:08] <brainwave92> you'll find all  you need...lunchtym...bye!
[10:08] <ikonia> brainwave92: correct, squashfs is just a compressed file system, so if you mount it, you'll just see the file system that the livecd would present if it was booted
[10:09] <llutz> DICTATORS: then check your logs and your configs. what errors do you get etc.pp. vpn works fine here, though
[10:09] <brainwave92> ikonia, thanks...thats what orchata needs to do
[10:09] <thebomb> Nobgul-bnc, also the man page of sudo will tell u
[10:09] <ikonia> krambiorix: it looks like it's not, it's more likley it's been locked at the hypervisor level
[10:09] <brainwave92> .exit
[10:09] <noisewaterphd> ill0gic, do you have the ffmpeg plugin for totem installed?
[10:09] <Nobgul-bnc> Ah ok thanks i use sudo -i all the time but never used -s =)
[10:09] <ikonia> brainwave92: not really, as it won't contain any debs for him to use elsewhere
[10:09] <dr_willis> Nobgul-bnc,  ive never noticed the differance tween -i and -s - there IS a differance.. but it may not be noticeabel in your setup
[10:09] <DICTATORS> in the page web of vpn client dont say me : you must open ports nubers xxxxx  and xxxx tcp, udp
[10:10] <dr_willis> Nobgul-bnc,  one runs the root users init scripts , other dosent.. I think is the main diff.
[10:10] <jpds> DICTATORS: You don't have to open any ports on the VPN client.
[10:10] <llutz> DICTATORS: to use a vpn-client you don't need to "open" any port atall
[10:10] <krambiorix> ikonia, okay i'll call my provider then
[10:10] <orchata> brainwave92:  thanks
[10:11] <noisewaterphd> jpds, ZykoticK9, yes? great link, what is your point
[10:11] <llutz> DICTATORS: exception: you're blocking all outgoing stuff on your own
[10:11] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, VPN is already encrypted
[10:11] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9, no, it is not
[10:11] <glontu> hi
[10:12] <glontu> can someone tell me how to make a little script get ran when my computer starts up ?
[10:12] <krambiorix> ikonia, thx!
[10:12] <noobie25> is there a way to reset my wireless connection?   My wireless adapter is not showing any connections
[10:12] <lejack> use a cron job
[10:12] <glontu> i need to run some network card configurations and management script
[10:12] <DICTATORS> lluz ok in ubuntu -es they say me you must open ports if you want a vpn for ubuntu
[10:12] <jpds> DICTATORS: Well, they're wrong.
[10:13] <llutz> DICTATORS: only if you want to run vpn-server, you have to.
[10:13] <DICTATORS> ok i think the same
[10:13] <ill0gic> noisewaterphd, yes i have it installed
[10:14] <dyd> hi all
[10:14] <Gryllida> ill0gic: noisewaterphd left this channel.
[10:14] <DICTATORS> not i only want a vpn client for ubuntu
[10:14] <ill0gic> uff
[10:14] <ill0gic> can anyone help with totem error under xubuntu ?
[10:14] <lejack> dictators solution: openvpn
[10:15] <wildbat> !upstart | glontu
[10:15] <dyd> i've installed Guake Terminal, and i'd like to let the program start automatically, i'm in system -> preferences -> startup applications but i can't locate the program... where do ubuntu install programs?
[10:15] <llutz> dyd: /usr/bin/guake
[10:15] <ZykoticK9> ill0gic, can you watch YouTube with your browser?  Why do you want to use Totem?
[10:16] <dyd> llutz: thank you!
[10:16] <DICTATORS> lejack ok but with open vpn i have it installed but dont connet dont work in ubuntu in windows no problem with openvpn and i have 7 vpn in windows
[10:16] <Guest6244> WaNtEd|MuSiC|002
[10:16] <ill0gic> ZykoticK9, because it's really slow with the browser ... i thought maybe in totem will be more faster
[10:16] <dr_willis> dyd,  use 'which quke' to discover the path is another way to find out.
[10:16] <glontu> thanks wildbat
[10:17] <szal> !list | Guest6244
[10:17] <llutz> DICTATORS: then check your logs and your configs. what errors do you get etc.pp. stop repeating your 7 win-vpns, that won't help you here in any case
[10:17] <ZykoticK9> ill0gic, FYI i get the same error on my Debian system -- Gstreamer encountered a general supporting library error
[10:17] <ill0gic> yea ... and google doesn't seem to know much about it
[10:18] <dr_willis> seneral supporting error.. somtning crashed so bad they dont know what to report. :)
[10:18] <Starminn> dyd: By the way, most programs tend ot be under /usr/bin for me )if I remember correctly)
[10:18] <dyd> dr_willis: thank you for the hint
[10:19] <unomi> btw - anyone experiencing google chrome crashes after the recent update?
[10:19] <dyd> Starminn: yea seems like it's default directory
[10:19] <dr_willis> dyd,  you can also copy (for example) the quake.desktop file to  /home/yourusername/.config/autostart/   and it should also autorun
[10:19] <DICTATORS> lluzt the logs eith with the errors are they in the network vpn of ubuntu?
[10:19] <Starminn> ill0gic: In Firefox you can use the system apps for things like PDFs and ODFs. Not sure about audio though
[10:19] <Starminn> audio/video*
[10:20] <unomi> Seeing some browser crashes with 12.0.742.112 - it even manages to take the X session with it now and then
[10:20] <llutz> DICTATORS: [11:08:52] <jpds> DICTATORS: Well, check the logs in /var/log/syslog
[10:20] <ZykoticK9> ill0gic, try installing gnome-python
[10:20] <unomi> 99% sure it is the browser - haven't changed much else
[10:22] <DICTATORS> ok llutz ok your instruction is in my list thank you very much and i hope to found the solution for vpn in ubuntu.
[10:22] <ZykoticK9> ill0gic, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/336597 seems that this error has been around for a while :(
[10:23] <DaHaiz> hey guys! following problem: got natty and at first with unity. unity crashed somehow when installing samba. i could repair the system with recovery console. now i'm using gnome. but gnome doesnt recognize my wlan although it works  (as you see, im in here) as i have it configured manually in /etc/network/interfaces. the problem is that i cant install anything within the software center. does anyone know i can tell gnome that my internet work
[10:23] <DaHaiz> s?
[10:23] <DaHaiz> (before unity crashed it had recognized it)
[10:23] <dr_willis> DaHaiz,  normal apt-get install XXXXXX   works?
[10:24] <brainwave92> orchata, u did it?
[10:24] <DaHaiz> i've no example right now, but apt-get update works
[10:24] <DaHaiz> so it has to have a connection
[10:25] <dsathe> wats the output of ifconfig ?
[10:25] <dsathe> yeah i guess u do
[10:26] <DaHaiz> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:af:5f:3b:e4
[10:26] <DaHaiz>           inet addr:192.168.178.15  Bcast:192.168.178.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[10:26] <DaHaiz>           inet6 addr: fe80::215:afff:fe5f:3be4/64 Scope:Link
[10:26] <DaHaiz>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[10:26] <DaHaiz>           RX packets:5442 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[10:26] <FloodBot1> DaHaiz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:26] <DaHaiz>           TX packets:5324 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[10:27] <dsathe> DaHaiz: u r connected
[10:28] <glaksmono> anyone is here?
[10:28] <brainwave92> none...
[10:28] <szal> wrong question
[10:28] <glaksmono> how do you link files & folders, so that the changes in 1 folder is reflected on the other?
[10:28] <brainwave92> better question!
[10:28] <glaksmono> = ="..
[10:28] <roseyposey> :-)
[10:28] <glaksmono> :(
[10:29] <dsathe> simlink
[10:29] <dsathe> make a link
[10:29] <orchata> brainwave92:  not really. The both links show how to create/modify the livecd and no info on taking all debs from the squashfs. I guess there is no debs in there. It looks like they are already installed. So I would need to some how build new debs from that DVD
[10:29] <glaksmono> yeah, but i couldn't make it recursive to files and folders
[10:29] <glaksmono> dsathe: how do you do that? can you give me the command?
[10:29] <dsathe> u in gnome ?
[10:29] <glaksmono> dsathe: i tried ln -s source destination
[10:29] <dsathe> ln -s
[10:29] <dsathe> kk
[10:29] <glaksmono> dsathe: but it doesn't reflect the changes on the files
[10:29] <DaHaiz> dsathe how do i tell gnome that it has a connection? the software center says that something's wrong with my connection. but it works as you see
[10:30] <glaksmono> dsathe: when you do ls -al on the destination folder, it doesn't seem that the type is a link :-/
[10:30] <yorgos> i'm a noob but have you ever heard of something called rsync
[10:30] <brainwave92> orchata, oh i see.....u need to 'install' the debs...but the question is, are they as debs on the squashfs?
[10:30] <dr_willis> glaksmono,   you did a link wrong then..  what filesystem is this on?
[10:30] <yorgos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync
[10:30] <DaHaiz> dsathe: i've just seen that the status bar menu says that my wlan device is not managed
[10:31] <dr_willis> if you set up a link properly, the destination, (or source) are  identical    You are not syncing 2 files.. its one file with 2 names.
[10:31] <orchata> brainwave92:  no, when I mounted the squashfs it looks just the same as my root directory in my laptom. So I guess there is no debs. I wonder how the live cd install the system then? Just copy paste?
[10:31] <ZykoticK9> glaksmono, a symbolic link is a pointer to another location/file
[10:31] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  give details of exactly what you are trying to do.
[10:32] <glaksmono> dr_willis: i'm on Mac
[10:32] <glaksmono> dr_willis: haha
[10:32] <dr_willis> orchata,  there would be no .debs on the squashfs...
[10:32] <brainwave92> orchata, you can package them as deb cant you? that might be possible
[10:32] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  os-x uses bsd. so it can proberly do links also.
[10:32] <orchata> brainwave92:  Not sure how to do that
[10:33] <szal> glaksmono: anyhoo, that doesn't answer the question..  what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:36] <DaHaiz> dsathe: i've just seen that the status bar menu says that my wlan device is not managed? (how does this flood-auto-mute work?)
[10:37] <ZykoticK9> DaHaiz, if you are using /etc/network/interfaces network-manager will say "not managed"
[10:37] <dsathe> did u play aroud in /etc/network
[10:37] <glaksmono> szal: i'm trying to create a link to the files and folder of Source, so that when I make changes on Destination, the changes on the files inside Destinatoin is reflected on Source... does that make sense?
[10:37] <dr_willis> You are manageing it by hand. :)
[10:38] <dsathe> exactly as dr_willis said
[10:38] <glaksmono> dr_willis: currently, yes :(
[10:38] <szal> glaksmono: and where are Source and Destination located respectively?
[10:38] <glaksmono> dr_willis: looking for more efficient way...
[10:38] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  You can make a link from directory 'foo1' and give it a new name  foo2     if you access stuff in foo2. you are actually alering things in foo1. youa re not syncing.. the data files are the same.
[10:38] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  if you have 2 differnt folders and want the contents to be identical,. then you do need to do some sort of rsync then.
[10:38] <DaHaiz> yes i did. /etc/network/interfaces. otherwise my network didnt work. how can i tell the network manager to manage it? i've just configured it myself because the network-manager didnt want to.. ;)
[10:38] <glaksmono> hmm..
[10:38] <glaksmono> yes
[10:38] <glaksmono> rsync!!
[10:39] <glaksmono> that's the thing!!
[10:39] <glaksmono> haha
[10:39] <glaksmono> i need rsync
[10:39] <FloodBot1> glaksmono: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:39] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  theres also various 'fuse' tools that can make it more transparent.
[10:39] <brainwave92> orchata, you can install the os inside virtualbox
[10:40] <ZykoticK9> DaHaiz, you need to remove your settings from /etc/network/interfaces to allow Network Manager to use/configure them
[10:40] <orchata> brainwave92: I could, but I don't really need the os. I need some apps from it
[10:40] <brainwave92> and use apt in cd to generate .debs of all, paste that in a pendrive, and install that in the host os
[10:40] <brainwave92> whatsay?
[10:40]  * szal thinks that orchata could've long been done downloading what he wants instead of following an idea that just turned out useless
[10:40] <kodapa> I'm using virtualbox to run windows 7 to run vmware vcenter client
[10:40] <kodapa> yo dawg
[10:40] <DaHaiz> all of my settings regarding wlan0? as its the device the network manager should manage?
[10:41] <DaHaiz> (including the auto wlan0 inet static line?)
[10:41] <brainwave92> szal, maybe if there IS a way, we must find it
[10:41] <Senjai|Busy> Howcome npviewer.bin (assuming flash for online radio) uses 33% of my CPU?
[10:41] <orchata> szal:  fully agree with you, but the machine I should work right now, does very low internet
[10:41] <Senjai|Busy> Also how can i tell if Ubuntu recognizees that i have two cores?
[10:41] <szal> orchata: as long as you don't pay by the megabyte, that shouldn't be an issue..  other than time, that is
[10:42] <brainwave92> Senjai|Busy, (funny name) you can see system recourses
[10:42] <brainwave92> *resources
[10:42] <leagris> Senjai|Busy, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:42] <orchata> szal:  Time is an issue!
[10:42] <Starminn> Senjai|Busy: Go to "System Monitor" and look in the "System": tab
[10:42] <szal> brainwave92: if the DVD doesn't contain actual packages, there is no way I know of
[10:42] <Senjai|Busy> Starminn: leagris thank you guys
[10:42] <brainwave92> szal, but the live cd actually installs them doesnt it? so there MUST be a way!
[10:44] <dr_willis> the alternative cd. has some debs on it - i think. because it can be used to upgrade an existing system. Live cd. dose not  i belive
[10:44] <glaksmono> how do you create alias of a command?
[10:44] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  via the 'alias' command... for bash. or link iot to a differnt name
[10:44] <dr_willis>  ln -s /use/bin/foo /usr/bin/foo2
[10:44] <dr_willis> oops a typo. :) and sudo would be needed in that case
[10:44] <szal> brainwave92, orchata: other than that, Ultimate Edition is NOT Ubuntu, it's a derivative we don't support here
[10:45] <glaksmono> hmm.. afai remember it wasn't like this :-/
[10:45] <glaksmono> i just wanna create a script
[10:45] <brainwave92> szal, but he wants to install them in ubuntu....so whats wrong?
[10:45] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, careful MAC uses a different file system layout (i think).  glaksmono
[10:45] <glaksmono> and then i can add to environment variable
[10:45] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  i dont know  what you are rembering.. but the alias command and ln -s are ways...
[10:45] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  you can make a 2 line script that just runs a command ...
[10:45] <brainwave92> alias attrib='chmod'
[10:45] <glaksmono> shell script
[10:45] <dr_willis> and copy it somewhere in your path.
[10:46] <brainwave92> for a script, you can type alias
[10:46] <dr_willis> #!/bin/bash        /the/command/to/run  (2 lines)
[10:46] <claviusmond> how do I add tv streaming addresses to vlc? All I have tried, with information found on the net, has failed
[10:46] <dr_willis> an alias is not a script. :)
[10:46] <brainwave92> dr_willis, i thought he wanted to create an alias for a command, in a script
[10:46] <dr_willis> so theres at least 3 ways to do what he wants.. dependiong on the details.
[10:46] <BarryB> Can anyone tell me, what runlevel is Xorg / X11?
[10:46] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  so be a bit more clear in what you want to do.
[10:47] <dr_willis> !runlevel | BarryB
[10:47] <dr_willis> BarryB,  none of them. its started by the gdm service.
[10:47] <dr_willis> which runs on all runlevels except 0 1 and 6
[10:47] <BarryB> ok, how can i determine if x11 is runnign before another process on start up?
[10:48] <glaksmono> dr_willis: i'm trying to add something into environment variable, so that instead of doing liek rsync -r bla bla
[10:48] <glaksmono> i can just do rsync
[10:48] <glaksmono> and it automatically grab that command
[10:48] <glaksmono> or something like that
[10:48] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  put an alias in your .bashrc or .bash_profile
[10:48] <dr_willis> dont name it 'rsync' however.. :)
[10:48] <dr_willis> a name like 'myrsync' may be better.
[10:49] <dr_willis> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/aliases.html
[10:50] <dr_willis> alias lm="ls -l | more"
[10:51] <bullgard4> ZykoticK9: packages.ubuntu.com: "keyword too short (keywords need to have at least two characters)." This is no sufficient reason to argue that "you have a system without X(org)?" The search function in packages.ubuntu.com simply does not accept a very short filename such as "X".
[10:52] <glaksmono> dr_willis: what should i put on .bash_profile?
[10:52] <Viking667> There are precious few commands that have one letter.
[10:52] <ZykoticK9> bullgard4, so search for xorg
[10:52] <glaksmono> alias <command> ?
[10:52] <ZykoticK9> bullgard4, FYI "dpkg -S /usr/bin/X" shows xserver-xorg on my system - yours is possibly different!!!
[10:52] <dr_willis> glaksmono,  an alias that does what you want....  i juat showed an example above...
[10:52] <Viking667> actually, search for Xorg, if the searcher is case-sensitive
[10:53] <Loreley> Hallo, is it possibly dangerous to use a Proxy 173.199.141.8 on port 8080? I want websites to see me as US computer.
[10:53] <dr_willis> alias somefancyname="command --with --whateverarguments -you want"
[10:53] <Loreley> I have found this IP on http://newipnow.com/
[10:53] <dr_willis> Loreley,  you are just connecting to some proxy you found online? thats not really a great idea.
[10:54] <dr_willis> i definatly wouldent do any banking, or other personal work that way.
[10:54] <bullgard4> ZykoticK9: On my system "dpkg -S /usr/bin/X" shows xserver-xorg  as well. Thank you very much for your help. --  But this is no sufficient reason to infer that "your system is possibly different".
[10:54] <DasEi> Loreley: not if sys is properly configured; you can use tor and tell him which adressblocks to use on ipv4
[10:54] <BarryB> what runlevel is the gdm service?
[10:54] <ZykoticK9> bullgard4, i'm not running Ubuntu - so i need YOU to check
[10:55] <bullgard4> ZykoticK9: Ah! I did not know.  --  Thank you for explaining.
[10:55] <blargg> I'm considering deleting the ubuntu-docs package. For one, the help viewer literally takes a minute of disk thrashing to open. Is the same help content available on the ubuntu website? (I can't even open the help viewer now to see what it shows, as it segfaults)
[10:56] <dr_willis> most people dont even notice there  are docs :)
[10:57] <Calinou> most people dont even notice they arent understandable :)
[10:57] <jpds> blargg: help.ubuntu.com
[10:57] <blargg> Occasionally I accidentally hit F1 or something and then my machine grinds to a halt for a minute and I don't realize what has happened until that awful thing opens.
[10:57] <blargg> jpds, but is that the same content as ubuntu-docs? I just want a positive confirmation.
[10:57] <ZykoticK9> bullgard4, can you imagine the number of packages that contain the letter "x"?  searching for a single letter is to common!
[10:59] <dimas> what is wrong with this command? sudo ./configure --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) --with-cards=hda-codec-realtek --with-oss=yes
[10:59] <dr_willis> ubuntu help docs.. use yelp.. and yelp started almost instantly here for me.
[10:59] <Loreley> dr_willis, DasEi I want to use it only, when I want to see content on youtube not beeing shown to german adresses.
[10:59] <szal> dimas: well, what is wrong w/ it?
[10:59] <blargg> dr_willis, I'm on a 2003-era machine, maybe that's the cause
[10:59] <Viking667> Is there any way I can get apt-get to cough up exactly which version of a package will be installed with "apt-get install pkgname"?
[10:59] <ZykoticK9> dimas, you don't typically need sudo for either ./configure or make - just the last part (doesn't explain your error - just a heads up)
[10:59] <dimas> szal says command not found
[11:00] <noobie25> Ubuntu GUI slightly glitchy (example:  resizing window at the corner is very hard ) ... how can i fix this?
[11:00] <Loreley> dr_willis, DasEi and I do not want to use tor. That is way too much for my wishes.
[11:00] <DasEi> Loreley: ic, google free proxy servers and use on located in us, might try a few to find sufficient bandwith/flash
[11:00] <szal> dimas: that means that there is no configure script in your current directory
[11:00] <ZykoticK9> Viking667, "apt-cache policy foo"
[11:00] <Viking667> dimas: il there a configure script?
[11:00] <jab_doa> hi
[11:00] <Viking667> err, right.
[11:00] <DasEi> one*
[11:00] <faLUCE> is there a way to retrieve automatically the windowid of an application after launching it?
[11:00] <blargg> Viking667, there's also a dry-run/simulate mode for apt-get, to see what it would do without actually doing it.
[11:00] <szal> DasEi: either that, or it's not executable (which would be quite rare)
[11:00] <dr_willis> noobie25,  people have mentioned how the default theme makes that a bit hard to grab. You could try a different theme/window decoration that uses bigger  frame/handels.
[11:00] <jab_doa> can i somehome disable pam_motd for certain users? Its eating a lot of disk io for nagios checks. Any ideas?
[11:01] <DasEi> szal: nickmiss ?
[11:01] <dimas> i did decompress....tar xjvf alsa-driver.tar.bz2 cd modules/alsa-driver
[11:01] <szal> dimas: yes, sorry
[11:01] <jab_doa> somehow
[11:01] <Viking667> blargg: hm. It says fglrx-2:8.840-0ubuntu4
[11:01] <szal> DasEi: damn, I can't nick-complete today..
[11:01] <Viking667> ... yet I know a later version exists
[11:01] <DasEi> szal: lol, nvm , di mas
[11:02] <MyWay> hi
[11:02] <MyWay> today I powered on my notebook and I can't unlock empathy's password anymore, it says it's wrong, but I didn't change anything
[11:02] <MyWay> what can I do?
[11:03] <dimas> szal you saw that last line i posted?...tar xjvf alsa-driver.tar.bz2 cd modules/alsa-driver
[11:03] <dimas> why they put the cd modules/alsa driver after?
[11:04] <Lasers> MyWay: Use old password (if you did use something else).
[11:04] <Lasers> MyWay: Or just kill it -- Nuke the configuraitons.
[11:05] <manuva> is a /boot partition an actual, labelled partition or is it just a partition used for installing the bootloader on?
[11:05] <MyWay> Lasers: I never changed it, but it says it's wrong now! How can I kill it?
[11:05] <blargg> MyWay, be sure you've not got someone else's machine, and if so, be suspicious of unauthorized access for one.
[11:05] <Lasers> MyWay: I'm not sure. You'd have to look for it in your ~/ -- Maybe in ~/.gnome* or ~/.config -- Look for empathy directory.
[11:05] <MyWay> blargg: no, I'm the only who have access
[11:06] <MyWay> Lasers: it's not only for empathy, probably this password unlock all network software of gnome, I don't know
[11:06] <dr_willis> MyWay,  you mean the Keyring password?
[11:06] <Senjai|Busy> Is there any way I can have Ubuntu "eat up" unallocated space on my harddrive into its partition?
[11:06] <noobie25> i'd like to say 'right click' in a folder and access the terminal for that folder ... how would i go about doing this?
[11:06] <Lasers> MyWay: Oh.. Keyring.
[11:06] <MyWay> yes
[11:07] <dr_willis> Senjai|Busy,  you can resize filesystmes with gparted. I normally use a live cd to do that.
[11:07] <dr_willis> !keyring
[11:07] <dr_willis> still no factoid on that one. :(
[11:07] <faLUCE>  is it possible to run "gedit" at screen position 100,200 ?
[11:08] <MyWay> can't understand how this can happen
[11:08] <faLUCE> with command line
[11:08] <Senjai|Busy> dr_willis, I have ubuntu on my flashdrive, that I used to install it alongside windows, would that work?
[11:08] <dr_willis> faLUCE,  compiz has a feature to force it there. or theres the devilspie application.
[11:08] <DaHaiz> i just wanted to setup my thunderbird. but a window pops up to create a profile. if I'm choosing the default one it fails with a warning that it has no permission to write. any ideas? i mean.. the default should work out of the box, shouldnt it?
[11:08] <dr_willis> Senjai|Busy,  i install from a live-flashdrive setup all the time.
[11:09] <Senjai|Busy> dr_willis: so i boot off the flashdrive, then what? Maintenance?
[11:09] <Senjai|Busy> dr_willis: I dont want to reinstall, just change the size of the partitions
[11:09] <dr_willis> Senjai|Busy, just boot to desktop run gparted.
[11:09] <MyWay> I deleted the file ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring, I'll try to reboot now, thank you
[11:09]  * Senjai|Busy wonders why there is a random 14 GB extended partition for logical drives..
[11:09] <Senjai|Busy> dr_willis, off the flashdrive right?
[11:09] <dr_willis> Senjai|Busy,  yes...
[11:10] <Senjai|Busy> dr_willis, thank you
[11:10] <AlexDevilLX> elements from folder to dock ubuntu?
[11:10] <blargg> Senjai|Busy, if the free space is just after the partition, you can expand it quite easily
[11:10] <babu> how to hear the sound from the remote desktop..with the remote desktop viewer, i can only view the remote desktop.....
[11:10] <dr_willis> windows 7  and system makers like to make all sorts of fancy recovery/restore/partitions
[11:10] <dr_willis> babu,  you could set up pulse audio on both pc's and get it routed to the local pc.
[11:11] <AlexDevilLX> May i put icons of mounted disks to panel?
[11:11] <babu> how to set pulse audio
[11:11] <claviusmond> can anybody recommedn a streaming url finder? mainly for tv
[11:11] <AlexDevilLX> Do you have a skype problem?
[11:12] <Senjai|Busy> blargg: I free up hte space in windows, then I need to expand it in linux.
[11:12] <dr_willis>  install paprefs and pavucontrol, and use those tools to route the sound from pc1 to pc2
[11:12] <Senjai|Busy> blargg: would that work with gparted?
[11:12] <dr_willis> gparted can shrink windows partitions, and enlarge linux ones.
[11:12] <faLUCE> dr_willis: devilspie works on windowids, not with pids
[11:12] <blargg> Senjai|Busy, like I said, if the free space is just after the Ubuntu partition, then it's easy to expand the Ubuntu partition
[11:12] <dr_willis> faLUCE,  i never use it.. so no idea.
[11:13] <Senjai|Busy> dr_willis, but i have to boot off the live disk right? as it is right now gparted wont do anything
[11:13] <dr_willis> Senjai|Busy,  yes.. you do not resize filesystems that are in use..
[11:13] <Tyrnis> plop all
[11:13] <dr_willis> you could resize the windows partition now.. but you cant enlarge your linux if its in use
[11:13] <abuanoname> am need help,
[11:13] <DaHaiz> anyone know why the thunderbird profiles dir in my home dir is just accessible by root and therefore my thunderbird cant create a profile there?
[11:14] <Senjai|Busy> dr_willis, blargg I'll brb, booting into live.
[11:14] <abuanoname> couse my vga on ubuntu 10.10 not good
[11:14] <abuanoname> any body can respont for my probelm,
[11:14] <abuanoname> am used ubuntu 10.10 installed on lenovo g460
[11:14] <AlexDevilLX> Mounted volumes to panel
[11:14] <dr_willis> DaHaiz,  check ownershop and permissions of the dirs and files in it.. if you accidently ran thunderbird as root.. it may have created settings files there
[11:14] <dr_willis> AlexDevilLX,  the unity panel shows  mounted disks here.. or at least it did. till i removed them
[11:15] <AlexDevilLX> I hate unityh
[11:15] <dr_willis> AlexDevilLX,  ive seen usb indicator-applets also at the webupd8 and mentioned on the askubuntu.com site as well
[11:15] <AlexDevilLX> Classic Gnome
[11:15] <tixo5> hey, is it possible to install newer kernels on older ubuntu versions? or are they compiled for that version only?
[11:15] <AlexDevilLX> thx for website
[11:15] <dr_willis> tixo5,   in theory you could compile your own for them. there are  kernel ppa's also.
[11:16] <tixo5> dr_willis: i used the kernel ppas, i was just wondering if i installed say 2.6.35 or something on lucid would it fail ?
[11:16] <blargg> tixo5, they sometimes backport them. For example, I've found 2.6.35 and 2.6.37 (if I remember correctly) for Lucid, though 2.6.37 had some issues with the nvidia driver
[11:16] <dr_willis> tixo5,  i would make sure you had backups made... :)
[11:16] <blargg> tixo5, 2.6.35 worked without issue when I tried it for a couple of days, didn't even break the nvidia driver
[11:16] <dr_willis> and hopefully worse case.. you select the older kenel from the grub menu..
[11:16] <tixo5> do you have any idea of the latest one for 9.04? i installed 2.6.31 but it doesnt seem to be new enough still and fix my issue
[11:17] <tixo5> ok guys, sounds like its worth a shot! :)
[11:17] <tixo5> its on another partition so reinstalling isnt an issue
[11:18] <AlexDevilLX> Rhythmbox vs Banshee
[11:18] <tixo5> blargg: are there any other steps i need to do but run the .deb package?
[11:18] <blargg> tixo5, see if you can find a ppa with it specifically built for 9.04
[11:19] <tixo5> well, the folders are named accoridingly, and the last one before lucid naming of folders, is 2.6.31
[11:19] <AlexDevilLX> terminal in notify
[11:19] <AlexDevilLX> and new panel only on desktop
[11:19] <tixo5> i know the driver works on 2.6.35
[11:20] <tixo5> so i want to eliminate the possibility of it being something else by using that kernel ideally
[11:20] <liunx> hello
[11:20] <AFD> I'm using icewm on ubuntu server 10.04 and would like to enable remote desktop sharing - can I do this via command line?
[11:20] <tixo5> im not 100% what kernel the bug was fixed in,
[11:20] <AlexDevilLX> How to make new gnome panel, and make it visible only on desktop
[11:26]  * Senjai is resizing partitions
[11:26] <Senjai> Thank you blargg and dr_willis
[11:26] <blargg> What package do I remove to get rid of openoffice? I'm thiking either -gnome or -gtk, but not sure.
[11:26] <Senjai> Handy tool, takes a long time though.
[11:27] <blargg> Senjai, yeah, if it has to move partitions, lot of copying and disk activity
[11:27] <Senjai> blargg: hope i dont lose any data on the windows side. Though i read gparted is pretty good.
[11:27] <dr_willis> AFD,  You would need to install some vnc server. you can then decide ifyou want to share the current visible desktop (xvncserver, I think) or have a hidden vnc server/session , tightvnc, or vnc4server
[11:28] <skilz> how do I stop to graphical login screen coming yp
[11:28] <AFD> @dr_willis I have installed vnc4server - I think there may be an issue with the setup but I am looking at the config file/s now
[11:28] <dr_willis> skilz,  disable the gdm service. to keep gdm from loading.  rename /etc/init/gdm.conf to be somthign else like gdm.DONTRUN
[11:28] <Hazuki> has anyone gotten sound working on the x120e? I've tried everything google has on ubuntu and debian for this and no luck
[11:29] <unomi> Hazuki: how is it? besides the sound?
[11:29] <dr_willis> AFD,  normally you would ssh in, run vncserver,. then connect with a client. the .vnc/??? dir has configs as to what desktop to run.
[11:29] <dr_willis> AFD,  i use icewm in vnc all the time in the past
[11:29] <Hazuki> unomi: nice machine
[11:29] <unomi> Hazuki: I was looking at getting me one
[11:29] <unomi> bit keen to try out the E-350
[11:29] <AFD> dr_willis ok... and you never ad to config ubuntu outside of the app itself? In gnome there is a tickbox to allow remote connections
[11:30] <Narc> Hello everyone. I guess it must have been asked a hundred times but what's the status of Gnome Shell under Natty ? Is it still unstable ? Thanks.
[11:30] <dr_willis> AFD,  thats a GNOME feature  (vino is built into gnome) you are using a totally differnt vnc server.
[11:30] <LBo> I think my install is corrupted
[11:30] <AFD> dr_willis AAaah - I understand. thanks for the help :D
[11:30] <dr_willis> AFD,  you could start a dozen vncservers each with their own desktop if you wanted
[11:30] <LBo> Even with the simplest .c file, gcc fails
[11:30] <louis_> hi is anybody has problem with unity not showing default desktop menu on top panel? at first start it is ok than i open a program and the last used programs name stays there
[11:30] <AFD> dr_willis I'm not that sadistic
[11:30] <LBo> error: 'return' undeclared (first use in this function)
[11:31] <LBo> I already did a: sudo aptitude reinstall libc6 libc-dev-bin libc-bin libc6-dev
[11:31] <Senjai> What does the linux swap do exactly?
[11:31] <blargg> LBo, what's the line and file extension?
[11:31] <LBo> But that didn't help
[11:31] <dr_willis> !swap
[11:31] <unomi> Hazuki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/X120e seems to indicate that it should 'just work' :/
[11:31] <Hazuki> yeah ><;
[11:32] <LBo> blargg: this is what's in the file (nothing more): int f(void) { return 0; })
[11:32]  * Hazuki pokes her lappy
[11:32] <unomi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10527986&postcount=8 seen this?
[11:32] <blargg> LBo, oh, and it's a .c file? yeah, looks like something's messed up
[11:32] <Hazuki> unomi, single post...?
[11:32] <LBo> Yeah I know :p
[11:33] <louis_> where can i report problems about unity?
[11:33] <unomi> Hazuki: yes, with the link to the ATI binary driver
[11:33] <Senjai> Thank you dr_willis, blargg when you said right next to eachother, the partition moving to the left to absorb the unallocated space is that what you meant?
[11:34] <Hazuki> unomi, what does fglrx have to do with sound?
[11:34] <blargg> Senjai, no, I meant free space *after* the partition being expanded. If the free space is before, it has to move the partition to the left before it expands it, thus it takes a long time :)
[11:34] <dr_willis> (part 1) (part2) (part3) (unallocated) --->  (part1)(part2)(part3     bigger)
[11:34] <unomi> Hazuki: its a long-shot, but since he states that HDMI audio worked - explicitly - that there could be some wider tie-in
[11:35] <Hazuki> hmm
[11:35] <unomi> well, if no one else knows, probably add your query on that thread, no?
[11:35] <Hazuki> whoa, i fixed it
[11:35] <Hazuki> i don't know how, but... ^^;
[11:35] <unomi> You are da Man
[11:35] <Hazuki> woman, but thanks :)
[11:36]  * Hazuki hugs and bounces off~
[11:36] <rosstaylor> is there a command for finding out how many watts the machines uses?
[11:36] <wslayer> thanks for this awesome system Ubuntu devs
[11:36] <wslayer> :)
[11:36] <Gryllida> :)
[11:36] <Senjai> blargg: Oh, well now im adding the unallocated space preceding /dev/sda5,
[11:36] <unomi> Da Woman then - sorry if I offended your sexist sensibilities by calling you a man :p
[11:36] <dr_willis> rosstaylor,  command? not seen one. a Kill-a-watt device runs about $20 and can tell
[11:37] <jatt> rosstaylor: powertop
[11:37] <blargg> rosstaylor, kill-a-watt meter that you plug in between the PC and the wall outlet
[11:37] <wslayer> i will never go back to sh*t windows again
[11:37] <jatt> ACPI power usage estimate available
[11:37] <jatt>  
[11:37] <jatt> can be read with it
[11:37] <Senjai> blargg: Oh i get it, disk space has actual ... position.. lol
[11:37] <LBo> blargg: Any idea how to fix it?
[11:37] <LBo> What package I should reinstall
[11:38] <Senjai> blargg, to grow into free if its directly adjacent is easy, because it just extends the boundary of the partition right?
[11:38] <dr_willis> Senjai,  you got it.
[11:38] <jab_doa> is there a way to get the old behavior of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpdateMotd? looks like its pam only which costs a lot of performance
[11:38] <blargg> Senjai, yeah, and unless you're using something like LVM, partitions must be contiguous and their data in linear order.
[11:38] <Senjai> blargg, LVM?
[11:38] <dr_willis> !lvm
[11:38] <rosstaylor> jatt: what?
[11:39] <Senjai> Oh, specific types of hard disk configurations
[11:39] <rosstaylor> jatt: i tried powertop but it doesn't work
[11:39] <louis_> anyone has issue with unity menu on top panel? 11.04
[11:39] <blargg> Senjai, LVM basically does for partitions what a normal filesystem does for files: they can be fragmented (and even be spread across multiple disks)
[11:39] <dr_willis> ive had so many graphical glitzes with unity. its not even useable here.
[11:39] <Senjai> blargg, I only know of RAID.
[11:39] <Senjai> blargg, ones performance, and ones... mirrored?
[11:40] <Senjai> blargg no idea how hard disk storage works though, perhaps ill look into it.
[11:40] <louis_> its mainly works fine but there is annoying things around :)
[11:40] <blargg> LBo, maybe you can figure out what language gcc is trying to compile the file as, in case it's using the wrong one for some odd reason
[11:42] <royale1223> http://ubuntumaster.co.cc/
[11:44] <tinga90> ciao nessuno sa come configurare irc su emphaty?
[11:44] <Senjai> I hope I can boot, GParted says i might not be able to.
[11:44] <tinga90> sto usando xchat sennò ciao
[11:45] <sktn07> would anyone tell me :  how to set busy in xchat-gnome?
[11:45] <geirha> !it | tinga90
[11:46] <tinga90> sorry!
[11:47] <mustafa> I HAVE ONE PROBLEM
[11:47] <Senjai> !ask | mustafa
[11:48] <dr_willis> sktn07,  irc clients dont work the same way as IM programs.
[11:48] <mustafa> EVERY TIME I DO SOME THINK MULTIPLE THE PC HANGUP
[11:48] <Stevethepirate> Random situation: my eth1 network card cannot ping the gateway (on a local subnet) unless wireshark is running. Wtf.
[11:48] <dr_willis> sktn07,  you can set yoruself away if you wanted to.
[11:48] <dr_willis> mustafa,  turn off the caps lock. and clarify the problem to the channel
[11:48] <Senjai> sktn07, most users in irc change their nicknames to indicate their status, you can do this with /nick sktn07|Busy
[11:49] <dr_willis> !away
[11:49] <mustafa> every time if i open video on firefox the pc come hang
[11:49] <mustafa> and if copying some file from drive to drive it come hang
[11:49] <Gryllida> mustafa: Flash and Firefox version please
[11:49] <mustafa> flash 10.4 and firefox 5
[11:49] <Gryllida> Oh, wait, maybe i/o issue.
[11:50] <mustafa> and it was 4 also same problem
[11:50] <mustafa> the pc speed core2due 2.10
[11:50] <tronic211> Maybe a driver controller problem
[11:50] <mustafa> ATI
[11:50] <tronic211> drive*
[11:50] <B-r00t> mustafa: flash 10.4?
[11:50] <mustafa> latest one
[11:51] <B-r00t> latest is 10.2.181.34
[11:51] <mustafa> its
[11:51] <Lasers> sktn07: "/away I'm busy with my sheep" is more preferred than "/nick sktn07|Busy"
[11:51] <mustafa>  turn off the caps lock.
[11:52] <sktn07> dr_willis, how to get again available...i mean online?
[11:52] <mustafa> 10.3.181
[11:52] <B-r00t> sktn07: /back
[11:52] <dr_willis> never noticed.. i never use the 2 commands. :)
[11:53] <blargg> Argh, it seems that ubuntu-docs is depended on by other packages
[11:53] <dr_willis> blargg,  its proberly pulling in other doc packages.
[11:53] <sktn07> Senjai, how to get again available...i mean online?
[11:53] <dr_willis> sktn07,   the /back command
[11:53] <Senjai> sktn07, you might find http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/61439 a useful resource if you wish to learn more about IRC.
[11:53] <dr_willis> sktn07,  but its not really that imporntant to use such commands.
[11:54] <Utopiah> hi #ubuntu , Im a bit lost, by defaut should I use init.d/initcl or even.d/upstart? (here to add lighttpd)
[11:54] <mustafa> and also if i do some multiple thinks it come hung
[11:54] <Lasers> sktn07: dr_willis is right -- However, just use "/away" without any message -- It'll be undone.
[11:54] <blargg> mustafa, you definitely need to run some hardware tests
[11:55] <sktn07> B-r00t, just /back?
[11:55] <mustafa> how i can do it
[11:55] <mustafa> i have 3GB ram
[11:55] <B-r00t> sktn07: just /back
[11:55] <DasEi> Utopiah: which purpose ?
[11:56] <Utopiah> DasEi: just to start lighttpd at boot
[11:56] <Senjai> B-r00t, /back isn't supported by all irc clients. sktn07, look at the link i sent you, when you /away, when you type again it'll automatically set you as back.
[11:56] <LBo> blargg: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libc-dev-bin libc-bin libc6-dev cpp g++ gcc cpp-4.5 g++-4.5 gcc-4.5 worked fixed it
[11:56] <DasEi> Utopiah: ah lightppd, oversaw that, can ad it to rc.local
[11:56] <DasEi> add*
[11:56] <B-r00t> sktn07: he ask for xchat
[11:56]  * Senjai will brb, booting to hard disk.
[11:57] <Senjai> B-r00t: you're right, sorry about that.
[11:58] <DasEi> Utopiah: /etc/rc.local is executed last at bootup and commands in there run with root privilegs, so just start the service there
[11:59] <Utopiah> DasEi: ok, thanks, Im not used to the "Fake initcl called" thing
[11:59] <DasEi> Utopiah: might also look :
[11:59] <DasEi> !boot
[11:59] <kesor> can someone point me to what linux-virtual is for?
[11:59] <mustafa> i did the test
[11:59] <mustafa> so what is next
[12:00] <DasEi> Utopiah: yes, upstart could also be used, but an overkill and hassle in this case
[12:00] <blargg> kesor, optimized for running under on a virtualized machine
[12:00] <kesor> so it would be a good choice for a vmware guest?
[12:00] <kesor> most forums say the opposite for some reason
[12:00] <callaghan> Hello, I have a quick question: Is it possible to set up a Ubuntu Server install, connect via "ssh -X" to it and launch e.g. Firefox this way? What do I have to install to do that?
[12:00] <sftrabbit> in ubuntu 11.04, when I change my monitor settings so that I'm using my TV instead of my laptop screen, I get this problem: http://i.imgur.com/8lPW4.jpg . The large area that works fine is the same resolution as my laptop display, but the other areas don't seem to be refreshing.
[12:01] <DasEi> callaghan: it is, no further install, but the server must allow x by default (think' it does)
[12:01] <vivekimsit> hii ! can anyone tell me how to install new plugin in openoffice?
[12:01] <tixo5> hey how can i boot again without using graphics drivers?
[12:02] <callaghan> DasEi: Thank you, that is all I needed to hear :)
[12:02] <tixo5> like failsafe thing?
[12:02] <blargg> tixo5, use the recovery variant in grub
[12:03] <Utopiah> DasEi: another boot related question, iirc there is an hybernate option to shutdown, is there a way to call that from the CLI?
[12:03] <tixo5> hey blargg, i installed 2.6.35 kernel, but it freezes, however i think its a nvidia bug lol, so i recon if i can boot without the noveau driver it may work, and fi my ethernet bug
[12:03] <tixo5> there is no recovery entry
[12:03] <tixo5> is it noapi ??
[12:03] <sktn07> thanks:)
[12:04] <tixo5> acpi=off ?
[12:04] <tomekh> hi. i have installed ubuntu minimal and then lxde and my apps. one thing is not working correctly is auto-mounting of usb devices. if i plug pendrive, i get "Not authorized." message. how can i fix this?
[12:04] <usr13> tixo5: What exactly are you trying to do?
[12:04] <yes456> my default route not working
[12:04] <DasEi> Utopiah: I think so, should be either acpi or pm-utils, but in detail I'm overasked there
[12:04] <yes456> http://pastebin.com/ZAFanM42
[12:04] <usr13> tixo5: Are you simply wanting console mode?
[12:05] <tixo5> usr13: i have a bug with my ethernet card in older kernels (i think) so ive installed a newer kernel, now this one has a bug with my nvidia card (i think) lol so i want to boot with most basic graphics
[12:05] <usr13> tixo5: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[12:05] <DasEi> Utopiah: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813387
[12:05] <tixo5> but i see a flash of high res graphics on boot, so im sure it will work
[12:05] <blargg> Utkarsh, apropos hibernate turns up some useful possibilities
[12:05] <tixo5> i just need to boot it up in poor graphics and update nvidia card, hopefully internet will work straight away on this kernel
[12:06] <ramblingjordan> hey guys/gals I have a bash scripting question. How does a user move a file into another users directory? Obviously it gets 'permission denied' when I use mv $1 /destination/ any ideas?
[12:06] <tixo5> i think i used acpi=off before
[12:06] <tixo5> on another machine
[12:06] <usr13> tixo5: Oh, so you have trouble with the Nvidia driver?
[12:06] <Utopiah> DasEi: thank you
[12:06] <blargg> kesor, here is an explanation of the kernel flavors: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/Flavours
[12:06] <tixo5> i guess the driver they added into the kernel (2.6.35) has issues yes
[12:07] <usr13> tixo5: You want to do away with the Nvidia driver and revert to the open-source one?
[12:07] <tixo5> i want to use the onboard graphics i guess?
[12:07] <tixo5> only until i boot it up and see if the kernel works ?
[12:07] <tixo5> then i can install the latest nvidia drivers
[12:07] <vivekimsit> how to install The OpenOffice.org Plug-in
[12:07] <yes456> my networking is  not working please help me my confgi file http://pastebin.com/ZAFanM42
[12:08] <vivekimsit> how to install The OpenOffice.org Plug-in
[12:08] <tixo5> ive installed 2.6.35 kernel on ubuntu 9.04 so it might be something else! i just want that GRUB command to use most basic graphics
[12:08] <usr13> tixo5: do you have to display adapters?  (One on-board and one add-on card.)
[12:08] <tixo5> usr13: your looking too much into it, im sure its just something like noacpi
[12:08] <tixo5> failsakex?
[12:09] <tixo5> xfailesafe or something
[12:09] <usr13> tixo5: You can just turn off the GUI
[12:09] <tajasel> okay, I just downloaded an iso for my USB stick and tried to boot from it; it failed, and when I looked at the files I'd downloaded an iso for a Windows machine. I don't recall telling the download page that I have a Windows machine (because, er, I don't) and I need to find the iso that will boot from a Linux machine. can anyone help?
[12:09] <sftrabbit> getting this problem in ubuntu 11.04 when i change from my laptop display to my TV - anything outside the original resolution isn't updating: http://i.imgur.com/8lPW4.jpg
[12:09] <sftrabbit> anyone know why?
[12:09] <tixo5> usr13 how i do that at GRUB?
[12:10] <tixo5> i think before i had to remove the --splash thing also
[12:10] <vivekimsit> how to install The OpenOffice.org Plug-in
[12:11] <callaghan> vivekimsit: Plugin for what?
[12:11] <usr13> Ctrl-Alt-F6  and then issue command:  service gdm stop
[12:11] <tixo5> clt alt f6 from where?? grub manu ?
[12:11] <usr13> from a terminal window
[12:11] <tixo5> ive told you the fkin pc dont boot ....
[12:11] <vivekimsit> callaghan:for openoffice..?
[12:11] <tixo5> give up lol
[12:12] <tixo5> cant kill the Xserver if it aint even started
[12:12] <tixo5> :S
[12:12] <tixo5> ill try myself again
[12:12] <Utopiah> well pm-hibernate made me crash, guess Ill try pm-suspend or pm-suspend-hybrid
[12:12] <usr13> tixo5: You don't have to reboot to do it.  Just go to console mode and do it. And you can do: sudo gdm start  to turn it back on
[12:13] <callaghan> vivekimsit: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ there is a link "Installing Extensions". Is that what you wanted?
[12:13] <vivekimsit> yaa okk..thnkx :)
[12:14] <callaghan> vivekimsit: no problem ;)
[12:14] <KolakCC> :|
[12:15] <KolakCC> vivekimsit: You could have found that yourself..
[12:15] <KolakCC> Didn't need to abuse poor callaghan
[12:15] <Behi> Is there a command that can be used like time that shows the maximum amount of memory a program has used during its lifetime? e.g. $ memory my_program ?
[12:15] <vivekimsit> kolakCC:actually i wanted to install the openerp's extension ...and it was as a package..
[12:16] <vivekimsit> but i found solution from openerp
[12:16] <usr13> Behi: top  will give you real time memory usage. But I don't know what will tell you passed history.
[12:16] <Behi> usr13: yes, top wont work for me...
[12:17] <tajasel> okay, I just downloaded an iso for my USB stick and tried to boot from it; it failed, and when I looked at the files I'd downloaded an iso for a Windows machine. I don't recall telling the download page that I have a Windows machine (because, er, I don't) and I need to find the iso that will boot from a Linux machine. can anyone help?
[12:18] <usr13> tajasel: I don't think you are explaining your problem correctly.  Try again.
[12:19] <blargg> usr13, he's saying that the download page apparently only offers the Windows version, and he wants the Linux version
[12:19] <kevinm2k> hey, wondering if someone can help
[12:19] <usr13> blargg: of what?
[12:20] <Muelli> tajasel: well, how did you put the .iso on the USB pendrive? You need to use "dd" or smth equivalent
[12:20] <blargg> tajasel, perhaps you have your browser set to claim that it's Internet Explorer? That would fool the download page.
[12:20] <kevinm2k> I have ubuntu installation my system has 4 partitions, 1=pq service, 2= system reserved (windows recovery) 3=ubuntu, 4=unpartitioned, I want to load windows back on to system, but loading in to windows recovery doesn't see any drive to load the recovery on to
[12:20] <kevinm2k> i have tried making 4 to ntfs and fat32 but no joy
[12:20] <usr13> blargg: I think you are on the wrong track.
[12:21] <blargg> Behi, google turns up memmon
[12:21] <tajasel> OK, the problem is, I downloaded Ubuntu from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download using Download options Ubuntu 11.04 32-biot, and the iso that downloaded has exe files in it and won't boot from my machine, I want one that will install from my Linux mmachine
[12:22] <usr13> kevinm2k: MS Windows will only boot from partition #1
[12:22] <DasEi> tajasel: natty 32 bit ?
[12:22] <kevinm2k> usr13 - does that mean, I need my windows partition to be /dev/sda3 ?
[12:22] <blargg> tajasel, the presence of .exe files doesn't necessarily mean that it's *only* bootable in Windows
[12:22] <kevinm2k> usr13 - if thats the case, I'll need to remove ubuntu partition... which will delete grub and I wont be able to boot the windows recovery partition
[12:22] <DasEi> tajasel: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[12:22] <Behi> blargg: looks like it works like top
[12:23] <usr13> tajasel: The exe files are more than likely compressed files.  WHat ever you download will need to be decompressed and burned to the USB stick.
[12:23] <blargg> Behi, according to one page, "memmon provides a convenient mechanism to report the maximum amount of memory that a process uses."
[12:23] <joakibj> m
[12:23] <tajasel> Muelli: by following the instructions for an Ubuntu machine on the download page (my installation is fucked and I'm bored trying to fix it, just wiping over and starting afresh)
[12:23] <tajasel> blargg: nope, that was my first thought and I've tried it with two different browsers, neither of which are claiming to be IE
[12:24] <Behi> blargg will have a look at it, but I think that process needs to run long enough... otherwise it won't be able to gather stats about it
[12:24] <usr13> kevinm2k: /dev/sda1  As I said, MS Windows will only boot from first partition on the primary drive.  I know that linux is not that way, but MS Windows is.
[12:24] <tajasel> blargg: nope, but the machine's refusal to boot from the stick (which is what prompted me to look at the files) does...
[12:24] <blargg> Behi, https://software.sandia.gov/trac/utilib/wiki/Documentation/memmon
[12:24] <tajasel> DasEi: yes, I said that's where I downloaded from...
[12:25] <kevinm2k> usr13: My system has always had /dev/sda1 as pqservice which is the recovery, /dev/sda2 as system reserved and /dev/sda3 used to be the windows partition, that was all fine, it only went wrong when i made /dev/sda3 the ubuntu partition
[12:25] <wildbat> usr13: really ?~ how come my windows boot from 3 partition XD
[12:25] <DasEi> tajasel: did you verify the d/l ?
[12:25] <DasEi> !md5sum
[12:25] <tajasel> usr13: I literally followed all the instructions on the download page, and it said nothing about decompressing anything...
[12:25] <usr13> tajasel: I don't think it's the browser.
[12:25] <Behi> blargg, hmmm I was looking at this http://readthedocs.org/docs/superlance/en/latest/memmon.html looks like we  have too many memmons :D
[12:25] <wildbat> #3
[12:25] <usr13> tajasel: Give me the URL
[12:26] <DasEi> tajasel: and it says ~Desktop~.iso and not wubi installer ?
[12:26] <vivekimsit> how to add a template in openoffice?
[12:26] <tajasel> DasEi: that's right, desktop iso
[12:26] <manuva> does it matter if your /boot partition is the last primary partion (sda4)?
[12:26] <Behi> blargg thnx
[12:26] <tajasel> usr13: URL of what? the iso?
[12:27] <kevinm2k> usr13: I was thinking that maybe the recovery console was hard coded to put the OS back on to /dev/sda3 and because that is EXT4 it wasn't working, but the prob is if I format sda3 to ntfs, I will lose grub, hence lose the boot up options and cant access the recovery console, if there was a grub on flash drive that may solve it though
[12:27] <usr13> kevinm2k: You don't have the grub bootloader installed into the MBR of sda?
[12:28] <usr13> manuva: no
[12:28] <manuva> usr13: thanks :)
[12:28] <usr13> NP
[12:28] <kevinm2k> usr13: to be honest I couldn't tell you, I went with default isntallation
[12:29] <usr13> kevinm2k: Did you have MS Windows on the PC when you started out?
[12:29] <kevinm2k> usr13: I did yes
[12:29] <usr13> kevinm2k: So when you boot, what happens?
[12:29] <manuva> funny quirk though, in the process of moving /boot to it's on partition on a win7/ubuntu 10.10 on a hp mini5103, on windows 7, the 5103's ethernet controller is seen as a removable usb device
[12:29] <tajasel> usr13: you said "Give me the URL" - the URL of what?
[12:30] <usr13> tajasel: The instructions
[12:30] <kevinm2k> usr13: At one point I removed winodws and put ubuntu on /dev/sda3, when I boot up my machine now it gives me the option of loading in to ubuntu, and in to my recovery console which is on /dev/sda1
[12:30] <kevinm2k> and in to a windows 7 loader on /dev/sda2 (which is useless)
[12:30] <tajasel> usr13: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[12:30] <usr13> kevinm2k: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit
[12:31] <tajasel> (and to clarify, the iso I downloaded was http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/ubuntu-releases//natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso )
[12:31] <dr_willis> kevinm2k,  if theres no other os's you want to boot  to on the system. you can make the /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober non executable. :)   but most likely its seeing some windows partitons or filesysmtes that it thinks are bootable os's
[12:32] <usr13> tajasel: Did you download  ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso  ?
[12:33] <tixo5> how can i boot to terminal from GRUB ??
[12:33] <tajasel> usr13: yes, URL to iso was http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/ubuntu-releases//natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:33] <tixo5> dr_willis: whats the command to boot to terminal not gdm or Xserver from GRUB
[12:34] <quaisi> Hi,  I have 11.04 on my computer. I have / on a separate partition with my home directory on another.  I want to reinstall 10.10 which I found a lot better and more stable. Is it simply a case of putting in the 10.10 cd and installing over the root partition or will I have stuff in my home partition that will conflict with the older files?
[12:34] <manuva> tixo5, i don't think you can boot to terminal in grub
[12:35] <tixo5> manuva: how can i diagnose issues?
[12:35] <manuva> tixo5 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub
[12:35] <tixo5> its hanging on startup
[12:35] <tixo5> hmm
[12:35] <manuva> have a geeze at that, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[12:35] <manuva> i'm having the same trouble as well :)
[12:35] <manuva> hahaha
[12:36] <tixo5> well
[12:36] <fairuz> quaisi: You don't like 11.04 because of the Unity desktop?
[12:36] <tixo5> im trying a kernel thats wayyyyy beyond my ubuntu version lol
[12:36] <tixo5> but i think its a graphics issue
[12:36] <tixo5> i might try an even newer one
[12:36] <tixo5> 2.6.38 :S
[12:36] <manuva> quaisi: I believe you are correct, there might be some conflicting config files on your /home partition though
[12:37] <kevinm2k> usr13: Well I just cancelled a gparted operation by accident... and I now have only 3 partitions, my ubuntu one has now gone... i'm guessing grub will be gone too?
[12:37] <quaisi> well - I use classic desktop.  More to do with no xbmc support, no simple compiz manager
[12:37] <dork> yah natty sucks
[12:37] <tixo5> 2.6.38 kernel on ubuntu 9.04?? lol
[12:37] <kevinm2k> usr13: I now have a grub rescue> prompt, can i boot to a partition from that?
[12:37] <usr13> tajasel: Did you scroll down and click  "USB stick" where is asks you if you "would like to create a:"  "USB stick"?  and then "To create it using"   * Ubuntu ?  (If so, the instructions look pretty clear.)
[12:38] <tajasel> yes, I did
[12:38] <tajasel> the instructions were very clear, and I followed them to the letter
[12:39] <tajasel> the problem seems to be with the file that was actually downloaded though? i.e. it won't run on a non-Windows machine. I also tried booting my Mac with it and that didn't work either.
[12:39] <usr13> tajasel: Then you should have a bootable USB drive.  Check to see if your computer is set up to boot to USB.
[12:39] <tajasel> usr13: it is.
[12:40] <usr13> kevinm2k: You probably only had 3 partitions to begin with.
[12:41] <usr13> kevinm2k: (You said that the forth portion of the drive was "unpartitioned"
[12:41] <kevinm2k> well i have 3 now, 1: system reserved, 2: pq service, 3: ntfs empty partition.... When I boot my machine its going to 'Grub Rescue', is there anyway I can force it too boot from /dev/sda1 at this point?
[12:41] <tajasel> usr13: righto. I'll try again later, have to go out now. thanks anyway.
[12:41] <usr13> kevinm2k: Which I would take that to mean that it is "free space"
[12:41] <kevinm2k> usr13: I did yes, but I did try making it ntfs at one point
[12:41] <kevinm2k> usr13: thats right yes
[12:41] <kevinm2k> usr13: its all in /dev/sda3 now though
[12:41] <usr13> kevinm2k: What do you need a NTFS partition for?
[12:42] <kata> i mounted an image in gmount iso at desktop now how do i unmount it p.s :- the unmount button is disabled
[12:42] <kevinm2k> I want to install windows from the recovery console which is on /dev/sda1
[12:42] <krobie> Jemand Anwesend, der zeit und lust hat zu helfen? xD
[12:43] <usr13> kevinm2k: Installing MS Windows on any other partition other than the first one is not gonna happen.
[12:43] <quaisi> Hi regarding the downgrade, is it worth perhaps deleting all the hidden (.) files and directoriesin home or is that crazy talk?
[12:43] <kevinm2k> usr13: ok, but is there a way I can get grub rescue to boot /dev/sda1
[12:44] <dr_willis> ive seen grub setups on live cd's that 'boot first drive'
[12:44] <usr13> !grub2 | kevinm2k
[12:45] <damasceno> When I try to mount a partition (/dev/sda1) using mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt the system shows that message: get root inode failed.
[12:45] <kevinm2k> usr13: I know what grub is... but I just dont know how to get it to boot a partition
[12:45] <damasceno> I need to recover the data of this partition. :S
[12:45] <kata> away
[12:45] <dr_willis> damasceno,  you are sure its ext3? what does sudo fdisk -l   say about the disk?
[12:46] <damasceno> Yes, is ext3.
[12:46] <esing> is microsoft office for linux for free?
[12:46] <akels> Hello I have ubuntu 11.04 installed on half broken hp Compaq 6715b. To boot it I need to use boot parameters - nosmp noacpi. Fortunately I am able to suspend my laptop but it does not happen instantly. After I choose option suspend my laptop turns off wifi and display, but then it keeps cooling my PC approximately 10 minutes. I understand that it is motherboards fault but I have noticed that when I log out and then suspend from GDM it happens noticeably faster
[12:46] <akels> or even instantly. So I am asking why my laptop keeps cooling longer when I suspend from desktop environment(Unity)? I hope that I have used some correct grammar :)
[12:47] <damasceno> dr_willis, Do you know what can I do to access this partition?
[12:47] <damasceno> :/
[12:49] <gab_> como usar amule con los enlaces
[12:49] <HoloCsm> hello
[12:49] <aeon-ltd> gab_: espanol?
[12:49] <aeon-ltd> !es | gab_
[12:49] <usr13> kevinm2k: The bottom line is that if you don't have a bootable OS on that partition, you are not going to be able to boot it.  The chainloader is what is used to boot the MS Windows partition.  If you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2  you will see what needs to be done to boot a partition with MS Windows on it.
[12:50] <aeon-ltd> !portuguese | gab_
[12:50] <aeon-ltd> sorry about the first time
[12:50] <gab_> unbuntu -es
[12:51] <usr13> kevinm2k: YOu can also read    man grub
[12:52] <Chillance> so, I got 2 computers running Ubuntu... I've logged in local on both... how can I ssh to one of them and attach myself to the current X session running? I want to avoid using vnc...
[12:53] <HoloCsm> I join in the ubuntu-it?
[12:53] <quaisi> ssh - X program name ?
[12:54] <usr13> damasceno: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit
[12:54] <manuva> Holocsm: "/join #ubuntu-it"
[12:54] <Chillance> -X will just forward X.. I'm not really attached to the one running
[12:54] <DasEi> !it | HoloCsm
[12:54] <Chillance> if that makes sense :)
[12:54] <andrew_> hey guys my bluetooth wasnt working andi found the solution to fix it (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bluetooth/2009-March/003897.html) but i dont understand the explanation of why it didnt work to begin with - any explanation would be appreciated
[12:55] <SwedeMike> Chillance: I'd say it can't be done that way.
[12:55] <DasEi> quaisi: no, you ssh -X in and then are on the remote host, there progName + Enter
[12:55] <Chillance> yea, was afraid of that
[12:55] <quaisi> sorry Chill - I normally vnc with remmina... :)
[12:55] <SwedeMike> Chillance: ssh -X is the other way around, you run the program on the other machine and display it on your local one.
[12:56] <Chillance> yea, I love ssh -X :)
[12:56] <DasEi> Chillance: depend on bandwith
[12:56] <DasEi> s*
[12:56] <Chillance> yea, but again.. local LAN..  not really a problem
[12:57] <usr13> SwedeMike: It can be done.  He needs to enable X forwarding in sshd.conf
[12:57] <SwedeMike> usr13: that's not what he wanted.
[12:58] <usr13> It's /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:58] <SwedeMike> usr13: he wanted to connect to the other SESSION.
[12:58] <SwedeMike> X-forwarding doesn't do that.
[12:58] <usr13> X11Forwarding yes
[12:58] <usr13> SwedeMike: Then what is it he is wanting to do?
[13:00] <usr13> ssh -X   #To enable X forwarding
[13:00] <Chillance> yea, like vnc, but through ssh, and then like if it was ssh -X, attaching what is seen local on the other machine forwarded to me..
[13:00] <Chillance> well, say I do ssh -X
[13:00] <Chillance> how can I get what is seen over there locally over to me?
[13:01] <iceroot> Chillance: vnc is the only way to see what is going on there
[13:01] <Chillance> aha
[13:01] <iceroot> Chillance: nx is a way to start a NEW session
[13:01] <quaisi> chillance: why don't you want to use vnc?
[13:01] <iceroot> Chillance: ssh -X is starting a new program and is not attaching to a running session
[13:02] <usr13> Chillance: Edit /etc/ssh/ssh_conf  (on the server end) and add line X11Forwarding no  to X11Forwarding yes  (or just add X11Forwarding yes to it).  And then, from client, do  ssh -X
[13:02] <Chillance> vnc feels slower..
[13:02] <SwedeMike> usr13: he already knows about ssh -X, it's not what he wants to do.
[13:02] <Chillance> oh well, no biggie..
[13:02] <usr13> Chillance: Edit /etc/ssh/ssh_conf  (on the server end) and CHANGE line X11Forwarding no  to X11Forwarding yes  (or just add X11Forwarding yes to it).  And then, from client, do  ssh -X
[13:02] <quaisi> remmina is pretty fast
[13:02] <quaisi> faster than the gnome default
[13:02] <usr13> Chillance: Maybe you want x11vnc
[13:03] <iceroot> Chillance: have a look at nx
[13:03] <Chillance> nx?
[13:03] <iceroot> Chillance: but it is not attaching to a running session its starting a new session but its fast as hell
[13:03] <iceroot> !nx | Chillance
[13:03] <usr13> Chillance: Install x11vnc on the server and use vncviewer on th client.
[13:03] <Chillance> ok, cool. gonna check it out
[13:04] <usr13> ChaosSaber: There is also  teamviewer
[13:04] <quaisi> anyone got any ideas on downgrading ubuntu to 10.10
[13:04] <iceroot> quaisi: not possible
[13:04] <iceroot> quaisi: only with a new installation
[13:05] <usr13> quaisi: no
[13:05] <quaisi> i have / on a separate partition - if I just reinstall  maverick to that is the plan, I'm worried about config files mismatching
[13:05] <gbili> hello, does someone know how to edit the unity dock so it wont hide
[13:06] <Skeeter-> I need some help with LVM and GRUB
[13:06] <usr13> SwedeMike: If he wants "connect to the other SESSION"  x11vnc will do it.
[13:06] <iceroot> quaisi: you want to install 10.10 into an existing /?
[13:06] <aeon-ltd> gbili: With Compiz Config installed, go to the Ubuntu Unity Plugin, now you will see a drop-down menu next to the words Hide Launcher, click on the drop down menu and select Never and that is it, Unity launcher will no longer hide.
[13:07] <quaisi> iceroot: weel overwrite the partition
[13:07] <iceroot> quaisi: format the partiton and do a fresh install you mean?
[13:07] <quaisi> iceroot: yes
[13:08] <prower> hello :> does anyone else have issues with flash causing their system to freeze up completely on occasion? when watching youtube videos in firefox or chrome for example, if i full-screen the video everything comes to a halt and i have to reset the computer, no way for me to switch to a console or kill xorg :<
[13:08] <usr13> iceroot: quaisi   /  is not a partition.  (Not sure what you guys are talking about.)
[13:08] <quaisi> iceroot: just a bit concerned about conflicting configs - ppa's etc
[13:08] <gbili> aeon-ltd, thanks alot+
[13:08] <quaisi> usr13: forgive me I have / on a separate partition
[13:08] <usr13> quaisi: Oh ok.
[13:09] <iceroot> quaisi: i dont get what you want to do exactly but if you are using conf-files from 11.04 in 10.10 there is a good chance to mess up something
[13:09] <usr13> quaisi: Well,  you can not install another OS on it unless you move /  to another partition first.
[13:09] <quaisi> usr13: I plan to format it
[13:10] <usr13> quaisi: And then you'd have to re-configure the system to use / on that other partition.
[13:11] <quaisi> usr13: The plan is to put in live cd of 10.10, format partition housing /, overwrite that  partition with 10.10 /
[13:11] <usr13> quaisi: Can you just add another HD?   (That would be easier.)
[13:11] <usr13> quaisi: Oh.  Reinstall 10.10 and leave /home as it is?
[13:12] <quaisi> usr13: That's correct
[13:12] <usr13> quaisi: If you have /home on a separate partition, that will be doable.  But otherwise, no.
[13:12] <usr13> quaisi: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit   #And send resulting URL. Let us see.
[13:13] <ocs> hi. Is it possible to activate some keyboard shortcuts only in visible workspace?
[13:13] <usr13> quaisi: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[13:13] <quaisi> usr13: What does that do :)
[13:13] <usr13> quaisi: It will show is what you have on your HD
[13:14] <usr13> quaisi: ... and we can give you specific advise.
[13:14] <usr13> quaisi: pastebinit /etc/fstab   #And send resulting URL
[13:14] <quaisi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/637911/
[13:14] <quaisi> that is incredible
[13:15] <usr13> quaisi: pastebinit /etc/fstab   #And send resulting URL
[13:16] <quaisi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/637912/
[13:16] <usr13> quaisi: Ok, good.  You have  /dev/sdb5       /home
[13:17] <quaisi> aye
[13:17] <usr13> quaisi: Since you have /home on a seperate partition, you CAN install and leave home un-touched.  Just be sure and tell it to leave /home alone, and set up same  user name and you'll be good to go.
[13:18] <quaisi> cool - thank you very much for your help!
[13:18] <usr13> quaisi: Do not let the installer mess with  /dev/sdb5  and it will be in-tact when  you're done.
[13:19] <quaisi> This pastebin program needs more press - It's astounding
[13:20] <usr13> quaisi: Yea, it's nice
[13:20] <stephanmg> is there something like the lightweight gmusicbrowser in xfce4 which can be configured with shortcuts by xbindkeys?
[13:20] <usr13> Linux is free, life is good.
[13:21] <gbili> hello, i am trying to set ubuntu natty to autologin, but when in "system settings->logins screen" i dont have the option to choose the user i want to automatically login
[13:22] <usr13> quaisi: But are you just wanting to switch to gnome?  Is that your goal.
[13:22] <usr13> quaisi: Because you can do that without re-installing.
[13:22] <quaisi> usr13: No. I use classic desktop - I miss simple ccsm and xbmc
[13:22] <abuanoname> my vga on lenovo g460 error, and compiz not ready
[13:23] <usr13> quaisi: Ok, just wanted to make sure.  Carry on....
[13:23] <z3r0> hello
[13:23] <quaisi> usr13: no worries
[13:24] <abuanoname> hallo brotha... need support for my desktop effect
[13:25] <rafz> how to increase desktop numbers from 4 to 6 in ubuntu 11.40?
[13:25] <alphacat> friends, if you could help a noob it would be appreciated. problem: wubi installer fails - 'can't find metalink', both usb and cd installs fail - freezes after syslinux/isolinux load screen
[13:25] <bazhang> cupu, /join #compiz
[13:25] <alphacat> any thoughts?
[13:25] <bazhang> !ccsm | cupu
[13:25] <cupu> bazhang, thanks am have do, but not yet for respont
[13:26] <quaisi> ubottu: simple-ccsm is broken in 11.04
[13:26] <stetho> Hi, I've got a really stupid problem that I can't get to the bottom of. I have a machine with an ATI video card in it and two monitors. I have install natty on the machine and set up the monitors so the left monitor is on the left and the right monitor is on the right. This is confirmed by the fact that if I move the mouse off the right of the left screen it appears on the left of the right screen. However, if I tap the left of the left screen, the launch
[13:26] <stetho> er appears on the left of the right screen. Which is stupid.
[13:26] <sam_> alphacat: idk is ubiquity the same as wubi (obvious noob is obvious)
[13:26] <Hansimat> I am just searching for an unattended installation. preseed might not fulfull our requirements. FAI looks very interesting. Are there any reasons not to test FAI? Google does not show many results for FAI with Ubuntu.
[13:26] <bazhang> quaisi, hardly. unless you have a bug report
[13:26] <dr_willis> rafz,  the ccsm tool - under the general tab i belive
[13:26] <cupu> bazhang, am have done install simple-ccsm and stil not work, am used ubuntu 10.10 installed on lenovo g460 (intel)
[13:26] <thebomb> quaisi, why is that is there a fix for simple-ccrm?
[13:26] <dr_willis> sam_ no its not.
[13:27] <quaisi> it's a dependency problem - googling now
[13:27] <rafz> dr_willis, I'm a little lost with the new interface. where is the ccsm tool? where is the general tab?
[13:27] <cupu> quaisi, what dependency problemo
[13:27] <dr_willis> rafz,  you insall it..
[13:27] <dr_willis> !ccsm | rafz
[13:27] <thebomb> with simple-ccrm in 11.4
[13:27] <cupu> ?
[13:28] <alphacat> you guys think i might have better luck with an ubiquity installer? will that install dualboot on top of xp?
[13:28] <dr_willis> I never use simple ccsm. :)
[13:28] <cupu> some probelm ha...
[13:28] <cupu> :) dr_willis what up bro....
[13:28] <bazhang> alphacat, thats the live cd installer
[13:28] <alphacat> thought so
[13:28] <cupu> dr_willis, am need you back for support,...
[13:28] <dr_willis> alphacat,   it will install  to its own partitions.. you will then dual boot to linuix or windows.
[13:28] <bazhang> alphacat, wubi is the install from within windows one
[13:28] <dr_willis> wubi = installs on a windows partition. (not reccomended)   ubiquity  - the way most people install.
[13:28] <cupu> my grafick or my vga not good, couse the grafick so hard for see
[13:29] <dacha> hello, when i try to install "pulseaudio-utils" (which I need for padsp) I get the error saying it has unmet depedencies (libpulse-browse0, which depends on an older version of libpulse0), please help
[13:29] <bazhang> alphacat, for more granular control the alternate (aka debian-installer) is a text based install cd
[13:29] <alphacat> okay, do you have any idea why wubi is failing to grab the iso metalink, or is it a relatively simple process to go for ubiquity? i really don't want to burn more cds or go into command line hackery
[13:29] <quaisi> compiz bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/simple-ccsm/+bug/738431
[13:29] <dr_willis> alphacat,  i hate wubi. You could download the iso directly and put it in the same dir as wubi.exe
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:30] <dr_willis> alphacat,  but i reccomend doing a normal install. and forget wubi even exists.
[13:30] <MagicJ> I am getting the message: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" - how do I get rid of this?
[13:30] <cupu> bazhang, how command on terimal for see the probel of vga, because b 4 am have done for fix the vga on my notebook and am not make archive
[13:30] <bazhang> alphacat, if its a newer computer you could use a flash stick with unetbootin
[13:30] <alphacat> dr_willis both USB and CD installs freeze at the 'isolinux/syslinux' load screen
[13:30] <dr_willis> alphacat, i always install from a bootable flash drive
[13:30] <Skeeter-> How can i kill the ubuntu insaller, it is stuck at BOOTLOADER INSTALL FAILED
[13:30] <bazhang> alphacat, sounds like you need to md5 the iso then
[13:30] <dr_willis> alphacat,  and your chipset is what? you did check the md5 of the iso file? how did you burn the cd or make the falsh drive?
[13:30] <bazhang> !md5 | alphacat
[13:30] <ikonia> Skeeter-: power off the machine
[13:31] <cupu> Skeeter-, used xkill on alt + f2
[13:31] <alphacat> md5 check is clean, my chipset is...hang on
[13:31] <rafz> dr_willis, thanks it worked
[13:31] <ikonia> Skeeter-: reboot the machine, this will make sure the whole process is stopped and reset
[13:31] <cupu> ikonia, what up, can u help me for fix my vga drive
[13:31] <cupu> ?
[13:31] <ikonia> cupu: no
[13:32] <bazhang> alphacat, this was for the wubi, correct?
[13:32] <cupu> ikonia, thanks
[13:32] <Skeeter-> i dont wanna reboot, since it boots of a usb drive and ssh it not installed by default
[13:32] <dr_willis> cupu,  tell the channel your video chipset. and the exact issues you are having.
[13:32] <BluesKaj> MagicJ, is that after the grub bootloader?
[13:32] <Skeeter-> xkill worked..
[13:32] <cupu> dr_willis, how to see
[13:32] <cupu> Skeeter-, nice brotha, welcome
[13:32] <MagicJ> BluesKaj:  the system is loaded and running fine .  I only have the problem when it tries to load the screen saver
[13:32] <Skeeter-> cupu,  high five
[13:32] <alphacat> bazhang yes, but i also tried manual iso & burnt to cd and put on usb, no luck
[13:32] <dr_willis> cupu,  lspci  command mentions your chipset.. or i  look on the stickers on my pc's case. :)
[13:33] <cupu> oke
[13:33] <dr_willis> alphacat,  how did you put it on usb? the Pendrivelinux site has several differnt tools. one of which should work.
[13:34] <cupu> dr_willis, my lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/637916/
[13:34] <bazhang> alphacat, by manual iso you mean what? extracting the iso yourself?
[13:34] <dr_willis> cupu,  line 2 = you got an intel video chipset
[13:34] <alphacat> dr_willis i used the universal usb maker provided on ubuntu.com
[13:35] <amanthakur> hi guys is there any channel for html database connection or database conection?
[13:35] <alphacat> bazhang i mean i burnt the iso to cd and i made a usb stick using universal usb maker
[13:35] <yeshellothere> hey guys, i'm trying to automatically install and configure X, but ubuntu seems to have no debconf entries for the xserver? what the heck is going on there?
[13:35] <dr_willis> alphacat,  that tool has been problematic in the past. I tend to use tools from pendrivelinux site.
[13:35] <cupu> dr_willis, yes
[13:35] <Skeeter-> cupu, got any clue how to manual install grub
[13:35] <dr_willis> alphacat,  i perfer the tools that use grub2 to boot the ISO files.
[13:35] <alphacat> dr_willis okay thats fine but the iso on cd has the same problem so its probably not the usb maker imo
[13:35] <cupu> dr_willis, how need do ?
[13:35] <dr_willis> alphacat,  hard to tell..
[13:36] <cupu> Skeeter-, what you mean ?
[13:36] <Skeeter-> grub-install /dev/sda fails, getcwd and aufs error
[13:36] <dr_willis> cupu,  tell the channel exactly what the issue is.. so far.. its  'intel chipset not working......' which is a little vague.
[13:36] <bazhang> !alis | amanthakur
[13:36] <ikonia> yeshellothere: could you please join #ubuntu-ops for a minute
[13:36] <cupu> dr_willis, but be for that probel can be solve for 'intel chipset not working......' which is a little vague
[13:37] <dacha> i had to downgrade libpulse0, apparently nobody here wanted to help...
[13:37] <dr_willis> dacha,  or no one else has ever had to do that befor...
[13:37] <dr_willis> first ive heard of having to downgrade pulse.
[13:38] <Sidewinder1> dacha, Or didn't have the answer.
[13:38] <BluesKaj> MagicJ, install a screensaver app , that might bring in the proper libs
[13:38] <alphacat> dr_willis my chipset is Mobile Intel(R) 82915GM by the way, is that blacklisted?
[13:38] <dr_willis> alphacat,  no idea. i cant imagine why. Most intel chipsets should work out of the box.
[13:39] <dr_willis> !intel
[13:39] <cupu> alphacat, that fine, compiz still work fine...
[13:39] <cupu> and dr_willis am still not fix my problem
[13:39] <dr_willis> cupu,  and so far.. we dont know what your problem is exactly.
[13:39] <dacha> is there a way to force padsp to be used for all applications system-wide?
[13:40] <stephenh> hello, has anyone come across a 0x80070021 error when copying files from a windows 7 pc to a samba share?
[13:40] <MagicJ> BluesKaj: give me an example of what to install please
[13:40] <alphacat> dr_willis, i don't mind going for a grub loader tool, but this isn't my machine so i'd rather not deviate from standard practices too much
[13:40] <aeon-ltd> stephenh: should be in #windows if the problem is from win to linux not from linux to win
[13:40] <cupu> dr_willis, may be, my driver is conflik with nvidia ?
[13:40] <MagicJ> BluesKaj: I believe that I have the gltext screen saver installed you see
[13:40] <dr_willis> alphacat,  its the flash installer thats differnt.. the installed system will be identical.
[13:40] <stephenh> aeon-ltd it's a samba issue
[13:41] <stephenh> not a windows issue
[13:41] <stephenh> well, the cause is windows i guess
[13:41] <dacha> alternatively what's a clean way to do system-wide LD_PRELOAD?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> MagicJ, look in your software sources fore a screensaver package
[13:41] <stephenh> but it doesn't occur on other windows file servers
[13:41] <dr_willis> cupu,  you never mentioned nvidia. and your system, has an intel video card. so nvidia dosent even figure into the system. Unless its one of those dual video card laptops.
[13:41] <alphacat> dr_willis okay, is there a page that could walk me through it? cheers
[13:41] <AFD> dr_willis I'm back for more knowhow ;) I'm trying to start vnc4server  on boot and have added this line to /etc/rc.local
[13:41] <AFD> /usr/bin/vncserver -geometry 1280x1024 -depth 24
[13:41] <AFD> dr_willis Any idea why it isn't working?
[13:41] <MagicJ> BluesKaj: I still do not understand what you mean - I know how to install something if I know what I want - what do I want
[13:42] <dr_willis> AFD,  rc.local is runnign it as root for starters...
[13:42] <dr_willis> AFD,  which is not a good thing.
[13:42] <dr_willis> AFD,  i always just ssh in, and start it as the user i need it to run as.
[13:42] <cupu> so can't solve that problem ya....
[13:42] <dr_willis> cupu,  you havent even stated the problem.. so no one can solve the problem...
[13:43] <bazhang> cupu, you have intel. how could that conflict with nvidia. that makes zero sense
[13:43] <AFD> dr_willis I'm trying to set this up for managers in a company - I'd like for them not to be ssh'ing in if possible...
[13:43] <scotch_83> Where can I get support for configuring Ubuntu 10.10 correctly for my hardware?
[13:43] <dr_willis> AFD,  there are some tricks to make vncserver spawn on connection via inted/xinted. but its been years sice ive last done that.
[13:43] <AFD> they will use a VPN to access vnc which is ok
[13:43] <bazhang> scotch_83, please clarify configuring
[13:43] <Sidewinder1> dacha, Since no one here seems to know the answers to your questions, have you searched the forums for your key terms (padsp, LD_PRELOAD)?
[13:44] <dr_willis> AFD,  i would test via the ssh method. to make sure its working first. then if you start it from rc.local you need to use su or sudo,. to switch to the proper user to run the vncserver
[13:44] <AFD> dr_willis when you said it's being run as root is that because of the /usr/bin/....
[13:44] <scotch_83> correct installation of drivers, specially for Ati x2100 HD :P
[13:44] <dr_willis> AFD,  rc.local runs as root...
[13:44] <AFD> dr_willis I'm able to ssh in (just testing on the LAN atm)
[13:44] <AFD> dr_willis and can access vnc ok
[13:44] <dr_willis> AFD,  every command in there . runs as root.. unless you set it up otherwise via su or sudo
[13:44] <alphacat> dr_willis or if you could clarify what grub2 tools you mentioned
[13:44] <AFD> dr_willis thanks for explaining tha
[13:45] <AFD> t
[13:45] <dr_willis> alphacat,  one at  pendirvelinux. universal iso booter. or similer named.
[13:45] <alphacat> dr_willis many thanks for your assistance
[13:45] <alphacat> and others
[13:45] <cupu> so ?
[13:45] <cupu> so bazhang how to fix my vga
[13:45] <dr_willis> alphacat,  seems to be called 'YUMI' now.
[13:46] <dacha> Sidewinder1: i am trying something even crazier now, stracing a running process to determine how it launches the subprocess which needs OSS, so i can launch it myself with padsp ;-)
[13:47] <BluesKaj> MagicJ, System > Administration > "Synaptic Package Manager"
[13:47] <MagicJ> BluesKaj: and I want to stick with the gnome screen saver and this is installed
[13:47] <dacha> anyway thanks guys
[13:48] <RenaKunisaki> does apport retracing service really have to send me three separate emails every time I report a bug >.>
[13:48] <dr_willis> AFD,  if they are using vpn to get to the linux box. you could use xming to run specific linux apps..  depending on their needs. and have just the single app appear locally
[13:48] <BluesKaj> yes MagicJ in synaptic search for a gtk based screensaver
[13:48] <AFD> dr_willis I'll try that - thanks
[13:49] <dr_willis> AFD,  it all depends on your needs. :)
[13:49] <AFD> dr_willis so xming is for windows so they can run linux apps?
[13:49] <dr_willis> xming + xdmcp  is a little old school it can work.
[13:49] <MagicJ> BluesKaj: there are no matches
[13:49] <dr_willis> xming is a X server for windows that can thus display 'X applications'
[13:50] <dr_willis> you can ssh to remote box. set up x forwearding, run an app.. and it appears locally via Xming.
[13:50] <scotch_83> configuring drivers
[13:50] <dr_willis> xming has wizard tools to set up speciifc icons for specific apps.
[13:50] <dr_willis> for a mixed ubuntu+windows systems.. xming is very handy to know about.
[13:50] <AFD> dr_willis wow
[13:50] <AFD> dr_willis you're a bit of guru aren't you!
[13:51] <dr_willis> Just used this stuff for years...
[13:51] <dr_willis> I have windows box upstairs with a 'gnome-terminal' icon that gives me a gnome-terminal on the basment linux machine.   so i  can then run whatever app i need.
[13:52] <bazhang> cupu, you have given very conflicting and/or incomplete info about your issue.
[13:52] <bazhang> scotch_83, drivers for what? wifi? 3d video card? something other?
[13:53] <bazhang> scotch_83, please preface your responses with the nick of the person you are addressing
[13:53] <alphacat> i tried YUMI but it's freezing at the same point, just pauses the line after the 'syslinux' launcher
[13:53] <scotch_83> bazhang, drivers for Ati Mobility Radeon X2100 HD
[13:53] <cupu> http://pastebin.com/fyXPchpV
[13:53] <bazhang> scotch_83, what version of ubuntu
[13:54] <scotch_83> bazhang, Ubuntu 10.10
[13:54] <dr_willis> alphacat,  that is weird..  what is your video chipset?
[13:54] <bazhang> scotch_83, check additional drivers in system administration
[13:54] <scotch_83> bazhang, Nothing displays
[13:54] <bazhang> cupu, whats the pastebin about , please give us some details; just saying "fix my vga?" wont get many responses
[13:55] <scotch_83> bazhang, no other additional drivers than the modem (smartlink)
[13:55] <alphacat> dr_willis i have no idea, this version of xp is running without the official video driver
[13:55] <bazhang> scotch_83, are those cards still supported by the ati proprietary drivers?
[13:55] <alphacat> all devmgr says is 'video controller (vga compatible)'
[13:57] <dr_willis> alphacat,  Hmm.. id be curious if you  put some other disrtos on that pendrive you made with  YUMI. (like tiny corelinux) if they would boot proeprly or not.
[13:57] <dr_willis> alphacat,  i would also say test that pendrive on other machines.. it may be some quirk of that XP box making it fill to boot right.
[13:57] <mankeletor> hi all
[13:57] <alphacat> dr_willis okay i'll try that. if there's a way of checking the video chipset i'll do it, although i suspect it's an integrated intel graphics chipset
[13:57] <dr_willis> alphacat,  lspci | grep vga (or was it VGA) will show
[13:58] <dr_willis> if ya got a linux going that is.. :)
[13:58] <dr_willis> no idea from xp.
[13:58] <alphacat> heh, i've tried every method everyone has offered but so far, no linux
[13:58] <mankeletor> what is the best fs for / ?
[13:58] <scotch_83> bazhang, I think they're not. The point is that I've been trying a bit of everything, so I don't know if now I have the right configuration. I used this...than uninstalled the x-server and reinstalled it.
[13:58] <bazhang> mankeletor, ext4 is standard
[13:58] <dr_willis> alphacat,  put the HD in a usb enclosuer. :) install linux to it from a differnt box.
[13:59] <blargg> I removed several older kernel versions with Synaptic, but I've just found that there are still builds of the nvidia and virtualbox modules in /var/lib/dkms. Can I have the package manager remove these, or do I need to run dkms remove ?
[13:59] <dr_willis> alphacat,  ive also  used a tinycorelinux live cd. to 'dd' a ubuntu isntalled fully to a 8gb flash drive. to a hard drive to 'clone' it to a hard drive.
[13:59] <alphacat> good idea but it's a 2.5 incher stuck inside a cheap philips laptop
[13:59] <mankeletor> bazhang: thx, finally i get tired about hdd error {DRDY err} :(
[13:59] <mankeletor> bazhang: im using ext4 in /
[13:59] <Sidewinder1> scotch_83, Make sure that you've enabled "Restricted, Proprietary drivers" in Synaptic Pkg. Mgr., under Sources.
[13:59] <mankeletor> :(
[13:59] <dr_willis> alphacat,  i got a iniversial usb-hd adaptor. does 2.5  3.25 ide and sata :)
[14:00] <scotch_83> bazhang, done
[14:00] <BluesKaj> what's the concensus on aptitude vs apt-get on ubuntu 11.04 ..there still seem to be some confliting opinions out there , but what are the real facts ?
[14:00] <dr_willis> mankeletor,  ive see similer messages as the drive speeds. up.. never ntoced any real issues with them.
[14:00] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  i dont see much need to use aptitude unless you like it better.
[14:00] <alphacat> dr_willis i can try tinycorelinux, i only have a 2gb pen drive though
[14:00] <dr_willis> theres no 'real facts'
[14:00] <ocs> I'm searching for an applications which does the following job: it displays a virtual limited buttons keyboard (with a configurable number of buttons), with a configurable icon for each key and launches a specific command when I press each button. any idea?
[14:01] <dr_willis> alphacat,  tincorelinux = 10mb. :)
[14:01] <scotch_83> bazhang, I used this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:%20%20Need%20to%20fully%20remove%20-fglrx%20and%20reinstall%20-ati%20from%20scratch
[14:01] <dr_willis> alphacat,  so that tool you used i think can put both on the same flash drive.
[14:01] <blargg> BluesKaj, man apt-get says that aptitude is a front-end that uses apt-get etc. internally
[14:01] <binay> in shell script how do i assign the output of a command to a variable
[14:01] <dyd> guys, i've made an image of my 40gb hd containing my so (using dd), now i want to put that image on another bigger hd (ie 80gb), how can i do that?
[14:01] <gaurav_natty> what does cpu1 and cpu 2 mean in system monitor
[14:01] <alphacat> dr_willis okay the 8gb you mentioned confused me, what do you mean by cloning with dd
[14:02] <mankeletor> dr_willis: after that messages my OS get down... and I have to repair the hd using hdd regenerator.. and the most of the times i have to reinstall the OS
[14:02] <dr_willis> alphacat,  i got a 'master' ubuntu install on a 8gb pendrive. I imzage to hard drives as needed.
[14:02] <usr13> dyd: yes
[14:02] <dr_willis> alphacat,  faster then redoing the installer.
[14:02] <mankeletor> dr_willis: that sucks
[14:02] <blargg> binay, foo=$(ls)
[14:02] <wowoto> hi anyone here can give me an idea about the ATI driver
[14:02] <wowoto> for ubuntu 10.04
[14:02] <ParkourCrew> west !!!
[14:02] <dr_willis> mankeletor,  sounds like you are having hard drive failing. and are due for a replacement.
[14:02] <west> hahaha
[14:02] <dyd> usr13: how can i do that? :)
[14:03] <alphacat> dr_willis but i need more than 2gb for that?
[14:03] <Sidewinder1> !ati wowoto
[14:03] <BluesKaj> blargg, true but there still seems to be opnion that if you use one then use the other ..I find that strange
[14:03] <bazhang> scotch_83, no idea about ati and fglrx , except the numerous issues people have with it. apologies
[14:03] <Sidewinder1> !ati > wowoto
[14:03] <dr_willis> alphacat,  you dont 'dd' a live install to the hd. it wont work very well. :)
[14:03] <BluesKaj> don't use the other
[14:03] <usr13> dyd: Same way you did it before.
[14:03] <scotch_83> bazhang, do you know other channels where I can look for it?
[14:03] <wowoto> !ati
[14:03] <gaurav_natty> cpu1 and cpu 2 in system monitor means
[14:04] <dr_willis> gaurav_natty,  the speeds of your 2 cpus...
[14:04] <cupu> how to remove all nvidia packed with command ?
[14:04] <cupu> how to remove all nvidia packed with command ?
[14:04] <dyd> usr13: ehm, i just made the image of my hd, now i want to put that image on another hd... how can it work the same way?
[14:04] <alphacat> dr_willis nothing is working very well at the moment ;p i'm considering giving up, it seems the hardware is resisting me
[14:04] <mankeletor> it seems like i have to left my hdd in the trash :(
[14:04] <bazhang> cupu, you have intel, correct?
[14:04] <cupu> yes...
[14:04] <dr_willis> alphacat,  try a tiny core linux live cd,   get the 35mb version.. its a handy tool to have.. and to test out boxs with.
[14:04] <bazhang> cupu, why would you care about nvidia then
[14:04] <cupu> bazhang, am have install nvidia to... that it's conplick
[14:05] <cupu> bazhang, am need remove all nvidia packed cause that cras with my intel drive
[14:05] <gaurav_natty> dr_willis, i don't have 2 cpus
[14:05] <dr_willis> cupu,  that last line made no sence what so ever.
[14:05] <dr_willis> gaurav_natty,  you got a dual core cpu perhaps.
[14:05] <bazhang> cupu, there's nothing complicated abou t it, intel cards do no t use nvidia drivers
[14:05] <alphacat> dr_willis will that run from usb? i've burnt 3 cd's in the last 24 hours and i thought we had left the days of optical media behind so i don't have many spares left
[14:06] <cupu> sorry bazhang so how to remove all packed nvidia drivers on my notebook
[14:06] <usr13> dyd: It will end up as a smaller partition, but you can use gprted to enlarge it.  Or you can use g4u  See: http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/
[14:06] <bazhang> cupu, why would you need to
[14:06] <gaurav_natty> dr_willis, yes i  have daul core can u explain me more
[14:06] <dr_willis> alphacat,  the tool you used to make the ubuntu usb. can also add a tinycore iso to it.. from what i am reading at the pendrivelinxu sute..  so fire it up and get the 10mb tinycorelinux iso and try it
[14:06] <dr_willis> gaurav_natty,  dual core = seen as 2 cpus... whats to explain...
[14:06] <dr_willis> gaurav_natty,  quad core = 4 cpus...
[14:06] <alphacat> dr_willis alright i'll try that
[14:07] <Promille> Hey dudes and dudettes. How can i change which plugins firefox will choose from a stream on a website. Now it automaticly chooses the totem plugin instead of vlc. Any good suggestions?
[14:07] <dr_willis> and a  octacore...   :)
[14:07] <cupu> am have discus on compiz chanel and him talk to remove nvida packed install on my note book
[14:07] <blargg> tinycore is great as an emergency boot that takes minimal space on a USB thumb drive
[14:07] <cupu> bazhang, am have discus on compiz chanel and him talk to remove nvida packed install on my note book
[14:07] <alphacat> dr_willis should i make it a multi tinycore/11.40 usb or just solo tinycore for now
[14:07] <dr_willis> alphacat,  may as well make a multi..
[14:07] <gaurav_natty> dr_willis, thanks
[14:07] <dr_willis> alphacat,  if tinycore even has issues.. well.. theres somthing big going on with the system
[14:07] <mankeletor> dr_willis: my hd is less than 1 year old :(
[14:08] <usr13> Promille: Tools -> Add-Ons
[14:08] <dr_willis> mankeletor,  so?   thats why they have warrenties..
[14:08] <alphacat> dr_willis does big imply insurpassable
[14:08] <dr_willis> alphacat,  hard to tell. ive seen some flakey old machines in the past.
[14:08] <mankeletor> always im getting problems with the hdd after an energy failure
[14:08] <usr13> Promille: You install one or the other and it uses it.
[14:08] <bazhang> cupu, it will have zero effect.
[14:08] <ka1gdq> while downloading updates for wine running sudo apt-get update
[14:08] <ka1gdq> received errors: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[14:08] <ka1gdq> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[14:08] <Promille> usr13: thanks :)
[14:08] <ka1gdq> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[14:09] <cupu> bazhang, <adamk> OK, as I already said, uninstall any of the packages with 'nvidia' in the name that are currently instlaled.
[14:09] <ikonia> ka1gdq: you're using a PPA that's no longer valid
[14:09] <dr_willis> ka1gdq,  server is down, or being updated. or you did not dio a 'sudo apt-get update' befor trying to upgrade
[14:09] <ka1gdq> ok.. i found it on the web.
[14:09] <cupu> bazhang, <adamk> OK, as I already said, uninstall any of the packages with 'nvidia' in the name that are currently instlaled.
[14:09] <dr_willis> or they have discontinued the ppa.
[14:09] <cupu> bazhang, <adamk> OK, as I already said, uninstall any of the packages with 'nvidia' in the name that are currently instlaled. how i do ?
[14:09] <alphacat> dr_willis yeah this machine can barely run xp, i wanted to switch for performance reasons, but i guess i'll give up if this fails
[14:09] <bazhang> cupu, stop repeating
[14:10] <ka1gdq> i should just use the update mgr to update wine? what line should i use to upgrade via terminal?
[14:10] <dr_willis> using the xbmc-uinstable ppa here ka1gdq
[14:10] <mankeletor> dr_willis: this is a non-warrantable country :(
[14:10] <dr_willis> willis@Cowbuntu:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ cat team-xbmc-unstable-natty.list
[14:10] <dr_willis> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/unstable/ubuntu natty main
[14:10] <usr13> Promille: Actually, it  is not as simple as that.  apt-get remove totem-plugins   will remove the totem plugin. Then you can configure firefox to use another helper application to deal with a particular .avi or .mov  file as it encounters it.  Configuring firefox is a pretty complicated porcess in some ways.
[14:11] <thebomb> do anyone know of a how to of giving your "application places and Systems" gnome-panels that 3d compiz effect?
[14:11] <bazhang> [bahrul_maho], please stop that
[14:11] <bazhang> !nickspam > [bahrul_copo]
[14:11] <usr13> Promille: You can easily switch to vlc plugin by installing  mozilla-plugin-vlc  via the package manager.
[14:12] <mankeletor> dr_willis: do you test RaiserFS sometime?
[14:12] <dr_willis> mankeletor,  never saw the need to use reiserfs
[14:12] <mankeletor> dr_willis: im gonna try it
[14:13] <dr_willis> mankeletor,  why bother?
[14:13] <dyd> usr13: sorry i still don't get it, what's the command to put the file.img in the hd?
[14:13] <rileyp> where do i define whether to suspend to disk or ram
[14:13] <mankeletor> dr_willis: cos i hope to be more lucky with that fs
[14:13] <usr13> Promille: There is also  xine-plugin - xine-based media player plugin for Mozilla browsers  (Which is what I use.)
[14:13] <dr_willis> mankeletor,  if the hard drive is failing.. then its failing...
[14:14] <rileyp> on a diskless frontend usng mythbuntu  (hres hoping suspend doesnot work as its trying to suspend to disk lol
[14:14] <mankeletor> 1tb hdd is hard to left it in the trash lol
[14:14] <thebomb> do anyone know of a how to of giving your "application places and Systems" gnome-panels menus that 3d compiz effect?
[14:15] <usr13> dyd: dd if=file.img of=/dev/sda  #Where sda is the HD you really want to put it on. That will take a wile tho.  There are ways to speed it up. See:  man dd
[14:15] <abuanoname> FUCK YOU ALL AM HAVE DOWN MY PROBLEM
[14:15] <mankeletor> thebomb: did you search in /usr/share?
[14:15] <abuanoname> FUCK YOU ALLL
[14:15] <FloodBot1> abuanoname: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:15] <thebomb> /usr/share ?
[14:15] <dr_willis> and he no longer has a problem....
[14:16] <thebomb> mankeletor, /usr/share?
[14:16] <dyd> usr13: thank you
[14:17] <damasceno> How can I unpack .img file using dd? I used dd to compact.
[14:18] <dyd> reboot
[14:18] <chinmaya_n> which is the best simulator for ARM architecture
[14:18] <jo-erlend> what file format does the wubi .disk-files use?
[14:18] <mankeletor> thebomb: what was your question? I think I misunderstood
[14:18] <usr13> damasceno: dd is not a compression tool.
[14:18] <kalkin-> hi
[14:19] <kalkin-> i'm having some troubles with python after upgrade to 11.04
[14:19] <kalkin-> i always getting pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: distribute==0.6.14 error
[14:19] <jo-erlend> usr13, if used incorrectly, it can free up quite a bit of space though. :)
[14:19] <kalkin-> when i execute easy_install
[14:19] <usr13> damasceno: dd is not a compression tool, and so you don't unpack it.  YOu can mount it though.
[14:19] <kalkin-> or if i execute tracd, i'm getting same error only differnt version number (Trac 0.12)
[14:19] <damasceno> usr13, I know that, sorry for what I said.
[14:19] <damasceno> I did a image using dd.
[14:20] <damasceno> And now, I need to access this data of that image.
[14:20] <usr13> damasceno: Yea, and like I said, you can mount it if you want to look at it.
[14:20] <usr13> damasceno: But it is not compacted or compressed, so there is no need to "
[14:20] <usr13> "unpack" it.
[14:21] <damasceno> usr13, I tried with mount command...
[14:21] <damasceno> But I can't mount :/
[14:21] <damasceno> Let me say what I did... I did a image of my Debian system using dd command.
[14:22] <damasceno> And I have two files that I need to look, so I need to access the data of this image.
[14:22] <kalkin-> has anyone an idea, why python is broken?
[14:22] <chinmaya_n> which is the best simulator for ARM architecture ??
[14:22] <binay> in shell script how do i assign the output of a command to a variable
[14:22] <usr13> damasceno: You would need to use the -o loop  option.  But what is your goal.  What are you actually wanting to do with this file?
[14:22] <damasceno> usr13, Understood?
[14:23] <woodyjlw> will ubuntu loose the classic gnome desktop after 11.10 ?  will ubuntu take away our choice to choose the classic of the new look?
[14:23] <damasceno> usr13, Just look the content of this file.
[14:23] <ikonia> yes
[14:23] <bazhang> woodyjlw, beginning in 11.10 yes
[14:23] <damasceno> usr13, I tried this options -o loop too...
[14:23] <damasceno> :/
[14:23] <damasceno> But didn't work.
[14:23] <damasceno> :/
[14:23] <bazhang> kalkin-, clarify broken
[14:23] <woodyjlw> so ubuntu just became another microsoft ?????
[14:24] <damasceno> I just don't know what to do more... :/
[14:24] <bazhang> woodyjlw, no
[14:24] <woodyjlw> yesssss
[14:24] <bazhang> woodyjlw, thats hardly a support question
[14:24] <usr13> damasceno: mkdir /mnt/img ;  mount -o loop,ro file.img /mnt/img  ;  ls /mnt/img
[14:24] <usr13> damasceno: Something like that.
[14:24] <woodyjlw> what about those of us who dont like the new ubuntu desktop???
[14:24] <bazhang> woodyjlw, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[14:25] <usr13> woodyjlw: You can switch to ubuntu-classic
[14:25] <kalkin-> bazhang: found the problem two version of easy_install one normal and one in local
[14:25] <bazhang> woodyjlw, thats 11.10. it has nothing to with #ubuntu . file a wishlist bug if you choose in #ubuntu+1
[14:25] <RevSpecies116> woodyjlw: Unity is the BEST thing that has happened to Ubuntu for a long time - we shall all get used to it
[14:26] <KolakCC> RevSpecies116: what are you even on about
[14:26] <bazhang> !ot
[14:26] <pfifo> can I use apt-get or dpkg, to remove a package, but not the packages that are dependent on the target package?
[14:26] <mankeletor> I still using 10.10
[14:26] <woodyjlw> thats what microsoft tells its people .....get use to it!
[14:26] <chinmaya_n> @all can we just remove the launchers panel in unity
[14:27] <usr13> pfifo: use apt-get
[14:27] <sensor> hi i m having problems installing tinyos 2.1 on xubuntu 10.04.2 plz help
[14:27] <pfifo> usr13, I mean, whats the option I need to pass?
[14:28] <usr13> woozly|job: Use the window manager you like best.
[14:28] <sensor>  hi i m having problems installing tinyos 2.1 on xubuntu 10.04.2 plz help
[14:28] <bazhang> sensor, whats tinyos
[14:28] <sensor>  hi i m having problems installing tinyos 2.1 on xubuntu 10.04.2 plz help
[14:28] <usr13> pfifo: sudo apt-get remove package-name-here
[14:28] <sensor> its a platform for wireless sensor networks
[14:28] <alphacat> okay so my problem centres around not being able to boot syslinux
[14:28] <bazhang> sensor, what does tinyos have to do with ubuntu/xubuntu?
[14:28] <pfifo> usr13, no thats not what I mean
[14:29] <sensor> plz dont ask absurd ques if u cant help
[14:29] <sensor>  hi i m having problems installing tinyos 2.1 on xubuntu 10.04.2 plz help
[14:29] <RevSpecies116> sensor - give more information or we CANNOT help
[14:29] <ikonia> sensor: it's a reasonable question, how is your question related to ubuntu
[14:29] <bazhang> sensor, please explain yourself. no need to have that attitude
[14:29] <pfifo> usr13, can I use apt-get or dpkg, to remove a package... IMPORTANT> but not the packages that are dependent on the target package?
[14:29] <ikonia> sensor: we can try to help then
[14:29] <usr13> pfifo: Oh, you do NOT want to remove the packages that are depended on the target package?  Hummmm... well, I dono.
[14:29] <alphacat> does anyone think that the reason syslinux is freezing at launch might be graphics chipset related?
[14:30] <sensor> tinyos is a platform for running applications using wireless motes
[14:30] <usr13> pfifo: What in specific are you wanting to remove?
[14:30] <ikonia> sensor: yes, I got that - what is your problem with it in relation to ubuntu
[14:30] <andrea__> ciao
[14:30] <andrea__> !list
[14:30] <RevSpecies116> is tinyos supplied in the Ubuntu repo's sensor?
[14:30] <sensor> i m having a problem in downloading the nesc compiler
[14:30] <ocs> I'm searching for an applications which does the following job: it displays a virtual limited buttons keyboard (with a configurable number of buttons), with a configurable icon for each key and launches a specific command when I press each button. any idea?
[14:30] <pfifo> usr13, gcc-4.4-base from a LiveCD, it tries to remove a bunh of stuff from base repo, bash,perl,sed etc
[14:30] <ikonia> sensor: ok - what's the issue
[14:31] <RevSpecies116> from the Ubuntu Official repo's, sensor?
[14:31] <sensor> tryin to install on xubuntu not on ubuntu
[14:31] <ikonia> sensor: ok - explain the actual problem
[14:31] <usr13> pfifo: So you want to remove gcc-4.4-base ?
[14:32] <lrf0808_> Hello
[14:32] <pfifo> usr13, right, but nothing that has it marked as a dependancy
[14:32] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1684660 sensor
[14:32] <sensor> i have to install tinyos 2.1 on xubuntu...can i noe da commands for the installation
[14:32] <usr13> pfifo: Just a sec
[14:32] <ikonia> sensor: they are documented on the website
[14:32] <RevSpecies116> Go on, sensor, more information please
[14:32] <bazhang> sensor, read the link I just gave you
[14:33] <pfifo> usr13, or to be more accurate, i want to remove gcc-4.4-base and sever others that also try to remove stuff from base, and I want it to remove everything thats NOT in the base repo
[14:33] <alphacat> i have a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM graphics chipset, can anyone please tell me if that's blacklisted/problematic, and may be causing syslinux to freeze at launch?
[14:33] <ikonia> alphacat: very doubtful
[14:33] <andrea__> !list
[14:34] <ikonia> alphacat: syslinux is dumb, if it's freezing it's possible that syslinux is not correct or a hardware problem
[14:34] <ikonia> andrea__: please don't do that again
[14:34] <usr13> pfifo: Use dpkg
[14:34] <sensor> bazhang, there are different set of commands for ubuntu and xubuntu for tinyos installation..
[14:34] <alphacat> ikonia: does that mean i will never get ubuntu running on this machine then? i've tried 4 installation methods now
[14:34] <bazhang> sensor, no there are not
[14:34] <ikonia> alphacat: what are you booting from
[14:35] <alphacat> ikonia: cd, usb, and wubi all failed
[14:35] <ikonia> alphacat: ok - so wubi isn't using syslinux, so it's doubtful syslinux is the problem
[14:35] <sensor> bazhang, i followed this link for installation:   http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=en&sl=ko&u=http://rfidnusn.blogspot.com/2010/06/tinyos-installation-on-xubuntu-1004.html&ei=yqkRTrXfBImdmQWytoCtBg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEEQ7gEwBQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dinstall%2Btinyos%2B2.1%2Bin%2Bxubuntu%2B10.04%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D803%26prmd%3Divns
[14:35] <RevSpecies116> sensor, a solution to your issue could be to goto a terminal and: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:35] <alphacat> ikonia: wubi failed by telling me it couldn't grab the iso metalink
[14:35] <ikonia> RevSpecies116: he doesn't need to do that
[14:35] <ikonia> alphacat: ok - so that's not syslinux,
[14:35] <sensor> i m facing problems with the nesc compiler downgrade part
[14:36] <AceKing> I'm helping a friend with his PC running 11.04. Whenever he maximizes any screens they become blank. I had him try restarting the PC which did nothing. If he resizes the open window smaller, everything shows. Any ideas how to fix this?
[14:36] <sensor> bazhang,  i m facing problems with the nesc compiler downgrade part
[14:36] <alphacat> ikonia: i figured as much, is there any way to install without syslinux or wubi then
[14:36] <bazhang> sensor, those are terrible instructions
[14:36] <ikonia> alphacat: what happens when you boot from a cd ?
[14:37] <sensor> wat do i need to do nowÉ
[14:37] <alphacat> ikonia: similar, get a 'isolinux' launch line and then additionally 'loading graphics..' or something along those lines and then freezes
[14:37] <bazhang> sensor, there is zero need for rpm and alien
[14:37] <usr13> pfifo: dpkg -r gcc-4.4-base   #Should work.
[14:38] <damasceno> usr13, The system say that I need to specify the filesystem...
[14:38] <rabbit1> problem with vodafone mobile net connect. can anybody help ?
[14:38] <sensor> bazhang, i have completed installing steps before the nesc compiler part...wat do i need to do nextÉ
[14:38] <damasceno> And when I do that, the system say: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[14:38] <damasceno>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[14:38] <damasceno>        Em alguns casos informações úteis são encontradas no syslog - tente
[14:38] <damasceno>        "dmesg | tail" ou algo do tipo
[14:38] <ikonia> alphacat: can you run the memtest option from the cd?
[14:38] <FloodBot1> damasceno: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <bazhang> sensor, I wont help as those are terrible instructions
[14:38] <damasceno> Ops! Sorry about the flood.
[14:38] <damasceno> :/
[14:38] <pfifo> usr13, Ahh yeah, i did something a bit different `dpkg --force-all -P gcc-4.4-base cpp-4.4 cpp` but yeah, its gone now, thanks
[14:39] <alphacat> ikonia: i don't get to any options like that before it freezes
[14:39] <sensor> bazhang, so wat instructions do i need to follow to get my installation done
[14:39] <usr13> damasceno: Try iso9660. i.e.    mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro file.img /mnt/img
[14:40] <rabbit1> problem with vodafone net connect in india
[14:40] <sensor> bazhang, derÉ
[14:41] <rabbit1> can anybody help ?
[14:41] <ikonia> alphacat: can you boot anything, eg: a windows cd, a fedora CD
[14:41] <usr13> damasceno: Or just:    mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.img /mnt/img
[14:41] <bazhang> sensor, no idea what you are saying. english here please
[14:41] <alphacat> ikonia: i just installed xp from cd yesterday
[14:41] <RevSpecies116> or #xubutu
[14:41] <RevSpecies116> or #xubuntu , sorry
[14:41] <ikonia> alphacat: that is English
[14:41] <brainwave92> rabbit1, what exactly?
[14:42] <bazhang> RevSpecies116, its not a DE dependent issue
[14:42] <sensor> bazhang, i m new 2 ubuntu...so kindly help me with the installation process
[14:42] <damasceno> usr13, mount: /home/sistema.img is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)
[14:42] <damasceno> ^^
[14:42] <buzzy> hey guys just a quick question about reinstalling ubuntu. I installed it creating 4 partitions: /boot; swap; / ; /home. I just want to reinstall Ubuntu. What do I do? I just format and reinstall it on "/" right?
[14:42] <bazhang> sensor, find a better guide then
[14:42] <RevSpecies116> bazhang, if he can't be helped here, he needs to be directed somewhere else
[14:43] <bazhang> RevSpecies116, #xubuntu cannot help him any more than here.
[14:43] <ikonia> buzzy: do the lot
[14:43] <shadow_> how can i enable other user account with administrator priviledge to mount and browse the other partition?
[14:43] <brainwave92> http://pastebin.com/1u51Shak, errors in 'gnome-appearance-properties'
[14:43] <damasceno> And when i try with -o loop show that message. :/
[14:43] <damasceno> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0...
[14:43] <buzzy> ikonia: what you mean?
[14:43] <usr13> damasceno:    mount -t iso9660 -o loop /home/sistema.img /mnt/img
[14:43] <RevSpecies116> Perhaps the Korean ubuntu freenode room, bazhang?
[14:43] <ikonia> buzzy: I mean format each partition and re-install
[14:43] <buzzy> ikonia: i want to preserve what's on /home though...
[14:44] <brainwave92> the problem is, i am not able to install icon themes from gnome-art
[14:44] <brainwave92> anyone help?
[14:44] <damasceno> What I said... ->  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[14:44] <damasceno> usr13, :/
[14:44] <bazhang> RevSpecies116, he's Indian, and speaking english here, no need
[14:44] <alphacat> ikonia: English? what do you mean
[14:44] <damasceno> I did dd if=/dev/sda of=sistema.img
[14:44] <usr13> damasceno: See my pm
[14:44] <RevSpecies116> then help the man, bazhang
[14:44] <sensor> isnt dis chat mean to help
[14:44] <bb__> hello, i'm fresh here
[14:45] <bazhang> RevSpecies116, please stop commanding people.
[14:45] <shellclear> I have a notebook pavilion dv52114br and I'm having problems with bluetooth device id 148f: 1000, ralink anyone know if you can make it work?
[14:46] <bb__> anyone talk to me?
[14:46] <bazhang> sensor, currently the only way to get that on your OS is not supported here. if you upgrade versions it is much simpler.
[14:46] <bazhang> bb__, have a support issue?
[14:46] <RevSpecies116> Hello, bb__ How can we help?
[14:46] <Abhijit> friend  trying to connect through mobile (vodafone) but it connects and disconnects after 2 mins. works well in Windows
[14:46] <bb__> no. i'm new here
[14:46] <Abhijit> any help?
[14:47] <tjiggi_fo> bb__, #ubuntu-offtopic for talk-talk
[14:47] <genii-around> damasceno: sda is the entire disk. To mount what used to be a partition inside that disk, you have to figure out it's offset and mount the image from that point. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=711773 has an example
[14:47] <sensor> bazhang, thnku for dat help...cud i use xubuntos for my purpose...
[14:47] <buzzy> REPEAT (cause didn't get clear answer): hey guys just a quick question about reinstalling ubuntu. I installed it creating 4 partitions: /boot; swap; / ; /home. I just want to reinstall Ubuntu. What do I do? I just format and reinstall it on "/" right? I want to keep /home
[14:47] <bb__> oh. ok
[14:47] <bazhang> bb__, this is a support channel for ubuntu
[14:47] <bb__> i'm sorry
[14:48] <RevSpecies116> Abhijit: I think vodafone hold the keys to solving that issue - sounds like a driver problem
[14:48] <ikonia> buzzy: how much clearer do you need "format each partition and re-install ubuntu"
[14:48] <buzzy> ikonia, I don't want to format /home
[14:48] <buzzy> do I have to or not?
[14:48] <buzzy> that's the only unclear thing there is
[14:48] <ikonia> buzzy: you don't have to
[14:48] <astraljava> buzzy: Just choose manual partitioning, and when it asks you to set the partitions up, choose "use existing" for /home, and choose the correct partition that contains /home from the previous installation.
[14:48] <buzzy> ok ikonia
[14:48] <dr_willis> buzzy,  if /home/ is on its own parittion . no   you dont need to
[14:49] <buzzy> thanks
[14:49] <Sidewinder1> buzzy, Reformat/boot and reinstall there; leave/home as is.
[14:49] <mark_scz> is there anything with functionality similar to this available as a program? http://rishida.net/tools/conversion/
[14:50] <Sidewinder1> astraljava, He has a separate /home part., and wants to retain the data, I believe.
[14:50] <bazhang> Abhijit, is that a huawei
[14:50] <astraljava> Sidewinder1: I tried to tell exactly how to keep that. :) Was I unclear?
[14:50] <bazhang> Abhijit, some more details would be helpful
[14:51] <RevSpecies116> mark_scz: uniconv?
[14:52] <mark_scz> RevSpecies116: doesn't that convert graphics?
[14:52] <Sidewinder1> astraljava, If he reinstalls to /home, wouldn't the new install over-write his previous /home data?
[14:52] <metap0d> Hi everyone, I am using html2pdf to create pdfs from ... html. I use the Google Charts API to produce charts to put on this PDF and if I render the PDF on my local machine it takes just 2-3 seconds .. but over my server it takes 25-30 seconds. Any idea what kind of PHP or server setting could cause that? I am using the newest Ubuntu Server release.
[14:52] <RevSpecies116> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/uniconv.1.html  mark_scz
[14:53] <IdleOne> hardy manpages?
[14:53] <ocs> Do you know if is there an application similar to http://people.easter-eggs.org/~valos/wmdrawer/ ? this one doesn't work properly
[14:53] <astraljava> Sidewinder1: Look closely. I didn't say to reinstall on /home, but to choose existing /home partition for, well, /home. :) At least I fail to see how that can be interpreted as installing on it.
[14:53] <bazhang> mark_scz, are you using hardy, natty , or what
[14:54] <RevSpecies116> IdleOne: Take your pick - there are links to higher versions of ubuntu uniconv on that page :)
[14:54] <bazhang> RevSpecies116, its not around for natty
[14:54] <mark_scz> bazhang: 11.04 whichever that is
[14:54] <Sidewinder1> astraljava, Never mind... Sometimes I'm unclear, for that you have my apologies. :D
[14:54] <bazhang> mark_scz, thats natty, and no uniconv any longer
[14:55] <BluesKaj> buzzy, make sure you enable /home by clicking on the partition and choosing it as /home in the manager, otherwise the /home data will be included in / ..that happened to me . I don't know whay but it did
[14:55] <RevSpecies116> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/uniconv.1.html ,pardon bazhang ? You were saying?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> why
[14:55] <astraljava> Sidewinder1: No worries. I just hope _I_ wasn't too unclear for the person who's doing the reinstallation. :)
[14:55] <laihan> hello
[14:55] <sudokill> hi
[14:55] <bazhang> !info uniconv
[14:56] <gulzar> My keyboard contains multimedia keys. In gnome and KDE decrease/increase volume button works perfectly but not in XFCE. I want to bind these 2 keys with volume. How to do so?
[14:56] <usr13> Sidewinder1: One does not install to a directory, (like /home ) the install is done onto partitions, where directores are created and files are written to those directories.  The install program does in fact have options to ignore a partition containing the  /home  filesyste and in such a case, if one creates a corresponding user name, (that exists in /home ), he can use that existing /home filesystem in the fresh new install.
[14:56] <sw0rdfish> hey guys is there a command or way to limit your system's download/upload bandwidth speed?
[14:57] <soziety> hello I need to uninstall the driver of Broadcom STA Wireless, any idea?
[14:57] <usr13> sw0rdfish: That is usually a function of your router.
[14:57] <Sidewinder1> astraljava, I think we managed to confuse one-another, :-) I thought he wanted to upgrade version, using /boot partition and he wanted to retain what was already in his separate /home partition... Perhaps it was "my-bad".
[14:57] <acerorasus> I am going to buy a netbook. Either the ASUS 1001PXD-WHI101S  or the ACER AOD255E-13DQws. Both cost the same. Which one is better value for money? Which one is more GNU/Linux friendly. especially wireless wise, that is to perform wireless security audits
[14:57] <damasceno> genii-around, Hey I did what you told me, mount -o loop,offset=6818757120 -t ext3 sistema.img /mnt/img/
[14:57] <damasceno> But didn't work.
[14:57] <Pet^Aw> hello, it's possible to set a cronjob to send me an email with my DB backup ?? I use ubuntu and i just install "mutt", someone can help me ?
[14:57] <Abhijit> bazhang, yeah i am asking him.
[14:57] <soscrewed> what does it mean to truncate a file to 0 bytes
[14:58] <alphacat> CD, usb and wubi all fail. what do i do next?
[14:58] <Sidewinder1> usr13, He said he had a separate /home partition.
[14:58] <coz_> alphacat,  did you use the live cd?
[14:58] <usr13> Sidewinder1: Yes, I konw
[14:58] <metap0d> soscrewed: Do you know what it means to truncate?
[14:58] <usr13> *know
[14:58] <soscrewed> metap0d: i have no idea
[14:58] <BluesKaj> !broadcom | soziety
[14:58] <alphacat> coz_ cd freezes at syslinux
[14:58] <usr13> damasceno: What exactly are you wanting to do?
[14:58] <metap0d> soscrewed: It's just an english word, no fancy technical term. It means to shorten or cut the end off.
[14:59] <genii-around> damasceno: Did you use the number for the start of the partition you wanted, multiplied by the sectors? In the example the sectors were 512 but your fdisk may have shown differently
[14:59] <alphacat> coz_ sorry i should say isolinux
[14:59] <metap0d> soscrewed: For example Pi goes to a hundred decimal places but we usually truncate (shorten) it to 3.14
[14:59] <metap0d> soscrewed: That make sense?
[14:59] <soziety> thnks
[14:59] <usr13> damasceno: If you want to read or manipulate the files, why don't you do it directly from the drive where they are located?
[14:59] <coz_> alphacat,    try the minimal install cd     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:59] <RevSpecies116> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+package/yudit mark_scz
[14:59] <glenn_> how works with thunderbird 5.0 and ligthning 1.04b and share the profile with xp aslo ligthning
[15:00] <coz_> alphacat,  that will start  NOT as a live cd ,, follow through, eventually a list of what can be installed with show up,,,arrows to scrolll and Space bar to tick a box
[15:00] <gulzar>  My keyboard contains multimedia keys. In gnome and KDE decrease/increase volume button works perfectly but not in XFCE. I want to bind these 2 keys with volume. How to do so?
[15:00] <sudokill> but the proper cd should boot...
[15:00] <alphacat> coz_ does the mini iso use isolinux to launch?
[15:00] <coz_> !minimal
[15:00] <usr13> damasceno: Since you have created the image of /dev/sda, the image will contain multiple partitions.  In such a case, I don't think you can mount and read the files.
[15:00] <coz_> alphacat,  not sure hold on
[15:01] <soscrewed> i accidentally formated the wrong drive because i got the devices mixed up so i used testdisk to put the boot sector back in place but when i tried to mount it it came up with invalid access to fat so i am running fsck.msdos -a /dev/sda1 on my external hard drive but there is a lot of information accross the screen that makes me worried it might be deleting everything, it says file is 3353252352 bytes, cluster chain is 0 bytes, tru
[15:01] <bazhang> Unicode text editor  mark_scz is that what you wanted? the package name is now yudit , not uniconv (in 11.04)
[15:02] <glda19> how works with thunderbird 5.0 and ligthning 1.04b and share the profile with xp aslo ligthning
[15:02] <coz_> alphacat,  although I have heard of the isolinux issue but the minimal generally gets these people through the install
[15:02] <RevSpecies116> bazhang: Already linked it :)
[15:02] <usr13> soscrewed: formatting a partition does not change the master boot record.
[15:02] <alphacat> coz_ okay i will try the mini iso but i've tried tinycore already and that failed
[15:02] <damasceno> usr13, And if I do an image just with /dev/sda1?
[15:02] <alphacat> same problem
[15:02] <bazhang> RevSpecies116, yes, so you stand corrected, no uniconv in natty, its yudit now
[15:03] <usr13> soscrewed: You don't format drives, you format partitions.
[15:03] <coz_> alphacat,  well give this a try,,, which video card,,, cpu  and memory do you have on that system?
[15:03] <usr13> damasceno: That will be different.  But what are you wanting to do?  What is your end goal?
[15:03] <Pet^Aw> hello, it's possible to set a cronjob to send me an email with my DB backup ?? I use ubuntu and i just install "mutt", someone can help me ?
[15:04] <glda19> alphacat, what is your problem
[15:04] <usr13> damasceno: If you just want to read or manipulate the files, why not just mount the drive and do it directly?
[15:04] <coz_> Pet^Aw,   something like this maybe?   http://members.multimania.co.uk/wipe_out/automysqlbackup/
[15:05] <alphacat> coz_ i have a Mobile Intel(R) 82915GM with intel 915gm graphics chipset,
[15:05] <soscrewed> usr13: okay sorry for the vernacular but what i did was mk2fs /dev/sda1 which made my fat 32 lba into swap
[15:06] <alphacat> glda19: i have tried cd, usb and wubi installations and they all fail, the first two freezing at syslinux/isolinux
[15:06] <coz_> Pet^Aw,    also use this search string in google >>   ubuntu cronjob send email with DB backup
[15:06] <Pet^Aw> coz_, thanks go to the link
[15:06] <BluesKaj> !alternate | alphacat
[15:06] <glda19> alphacat, strange
[15:06] <genii-around> damasceno: If you dd just a subpartition like sda1 then you just loopmount it specifying filesystem type
[15:07] <sudokill> alphacat, i doubt a minimal cd will help
[15:07] <gulzar>  CREATE SHORTCUT KEYS----My keyboard contains multimedia keys. In gnome and KDE decrease/increase volume button works perfectly but not in XFCE. I want to bind these 2 keys with volume. How to do so?
[15:07] <usr13> soscrewed: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit  #Send us the resulting URL
[15:07] <soscrewed> usr13: so then i did testdisk to do a boot sector recovery of the fat 32 lba but when i went to mount it it came back with invalid access to fat so i fsck.msdos -a /dev/sda1 and it is telling me that it is truncating files to 0 bytes.. looking at it in testdisk it appears not to be deleting everything but i'm not sure.. it's a 1 TB drive and 4 years of my life is on it
[15:07] <coz_> alphacat,  seems there have been issues with that 915 however according to what I have read it should be fixed,,, the mini will install most likely
[15:08] <sudokill> gulzar, in the xfce window manager settings i think theres a key option there
[15:08] <alphacat> coz_ alright i'll give mini a shot, i get the feeling this machine is resisting linux at every angle. do i have to burn a cd or can i boot it from usb?
[15:09] <gulzar> sudokill: It is. But which command should I should? What is the name of that function?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> sudokill, this is the important aspect of the alternate cd , The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware
[15:09] <coz_> alphacat,  I have had no luck buring to usb flash,, cd or external hard drive from this end
[15:09] <sudokill> BluesKaj, different kernel?
[15:09] <coz_> alphacat,  rather not luck burning the mini  to usb
[15:09] <gulzar> sudokill: *use
[15:09] <usr13> soscrewed: Again.   Formatting a partition will not effect the boot sector.
[15:09] <coz_> alphacat,  you can try with unetbootin  but didnt work for me
[15:10] <alphacat> coz_ okay it's just i'm running out of blank discs and every solution seems to need another one
[15:10] <sudokill> gulzar, i have no idea what the volume up is called
[15:10] <soscrewed> usr13: i hear you, i used testdisk to copy over a file to see if it was all right but i couldnt copy over all my data because it
[15:10] <soscrewed> usr13: it
[15:10] <soscrewed> damnit
[15:10] <alphacat> but so far i've wasted about 5 blanks
[15:10] <gulzar> sudokill: that is the main problem. Ok I will change my question.
[15:10] <usr13> soscrewed:  I am not familiar with testdisk   Nor am I familiar with mk2fs
[15:10] <coz_> alphacat,  I realize  that 19 megs on a cd is somewhat seemingly wasteful,, but if it installs then that cd will be gold :)
[15:11] <alphacat> coz_ if it installs its worth it, but everything i have tried up until now has failed, i think i'll give up if this doesn't work
[15:11] <gulzar> I want to bind a key with 'INCREASE VOLUME' and one to 'DECREASE VOLUME'. What is the name of the command to be used in keyboard sortcuts?
[15:11] <soscrewed> usr13: you are right the files are there but i cant retrieve them due to the size of my 40 GB hard drive and the 1 TB of data on the drive to be restored
[15:12] <coz_> alphacat,   you checked the md5ums on those other disks ,, yes?
[15:12] <coz_> alphacat,  rather the iso md5sum
[15:12] <tntc> soscrewed: there's not much you can do about that other than go and buy a 1TB drive
[15:12] <alphacat> coz_ all md5s are clean
[15:12] <coz_> alphacat,  ok ,, cool,,
[15:13] <tntc> soscrewed: but if you REALLY need everything from it, I've had really good luck with R-Studio for recovery.
[15:13] <tntc> soscrewed: also, how big is the original drive? I know it has 1TB of data, but what is it, a 2TB drive?
[15:13] <soscrewed> tntc: true but i was able to recover the boot sector, but when i mounted it it dmesg a bunch of crap about invalid, so i found another tool fsck.msdos that says it should restore the errors but this truncating thing has me freaked out
[15:13] <brainwave92> how to install clearlooks? i deleted my theme folder by mistake
[15:13] <brainwave92> i tried install light-themes, and only ambiance came back
[15:13] <usr13> soscrewed: But if you did, in fact, reformat a partition, you are in deep trouble.  (Deeper touble than a Ubuntu support channel can bail you out of.)  You need data recovery tools, or a profesional that has done that sort of thing before.  Attempting to do it on your own, may just lead to more problems.  You might accidently find someone on here that has that type of experience, but .. not likely.  (And I'm not the one.)
[15:13] <gulzar>  I want to bind a key with 'INCREASE VOLUME' and one to 'DECREASE VOLUME'. What is the name of the command to be used in keyboard sortcuts?
[15:14] <tntc> usr13: I am.
[15:14] <alphacat> coz_ gonna reboot and try that now, thanks for your help
[15:14] <coz_> ah darn,, be back in a bit
[15:14] <sudokill> good luck recovergin from a formatted drive..
[15:14] <soscrewed> tntc: it's a 1 TB with 1 TB on it
[15:14] <coz_> alphacat,  cool ,, I will be back in a bit  let me know
[15:14] <sudokill> gulzar brb ill google it for you
[15:14] <tntc> sudokill: been there, done that. quickformat isn't as bad as you think
[15:15] <usr13> tntc: Very good.  Glad you are here to help.
[15:15] <sudokill> quickformat isnt any less harsh than "full"
[15:15] <brainwave92> Ok done
[15:15] <gulzar> sudokill: :)
[15:15] <tntc> usr13: he got lucky today :)
[15:15] <sudokill> gulzar, http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=2611
[15:16] <sudokill> i think amixer sset PCM 1+ for vol up
[15:16] <sudokill> you can change the steps to increase it more each time
[15:16] <tntc> sudokill: it's more about the fact that full format tries to scan the disk for errors, which, when the drive is already damaged, can mean total drive death.
[15:17] <tntc> anyhow, soscrewed, can you go buy another disk?
[15:17] <tntc> I'd suggest a 2TB, just in case
[15:18] <metap0d> Is there a room for ubuntuserver
[15:18] <tntc> soscrewed: then you can use gddrescue or dd_rescue to copy the disk (using an ubuntu liveCD or whatever)
[15:18] <tntc> then you can use r-studio or something along those lines to get the files back.
[15:18] <tntc> soscrewed: perform no further operations on the damaged disk. you'll only make it worse.
[15:18] <bazhang> metap0d, #ubuntu-server
[15:19] <soscrewed> tntc: i have no choice at the moment, this fsck.msdos i ran it half hour ago and i'm not about to stop it for fear of what that might do
[15:19] <tntc> soscrewed: disconnect the hard disk
[15:19] <tntc> soscrewed: the longer it runs the worse it'll go
[15:20] <metap0d> bazhang: : Thanks, got it.
[15:20] <soscrewed> tntc: i don't know, i read a webpage about a guy with the same error and this worked for him
[15:20] <shellclear> I have a notebook pavilion dv52114br and I'm having problems with bluetooth device id 148f: 1000, ralink anyone know if you can make it work?
[15:20] <j416> I want to install package 'gitolite' on Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS, but it is not available in the repo. Would it be possible/sane to install it from the natty universe repo, and if so, how can I do it?
[15:20] <tntc> soscrewed: he got lucky. if your disk is even slightly damaged, you're making it worse, and could kill it
[15:20] <binay> in shell script how do i assign the output of a command to a variable
[15:20] <j416> (apt)
[15:21] <gulzar> sudokill: yup it works. Thank You! :)
[15:21] <sudokill> cool
[15:21] <tntc> soscrewed: if this is THAT IMPORTANT to you, a year of your life, get another hard disk, and use dd_rescue or somethign to make a duplicate. That way, you don't have to worry about hardware dying in the middle.
[15:21] <bazhang> j416, that would be very unwise
[15:21] <vlt> binay: var=$(command)
[15:21] <j416> bazhang: thank you. What would you suggest I do?
[15:21] <soscrewed> tntc: well even though it says it's truncating, i went back into testdisk and went under the undelete and all the files it says truncating are still there and aren't 0 bytes in size
[15:21] <binay> vlt, it is not working well
[15:22] <soscrewed> tntc: sorry for the confusion
[15:22] <tntc> soscrewed: make. a copy. of. the disk.
[15:22] <soscrewed> tntc: i can't it's too big
[15:22] <binay> vlt, curl google.com
[15:22] <tntc> soscrewed: go buy another disk. it's worth the money
[15:22] <binay> vlee, and var=$(curl google.com)
[15:22] <bazhang> j416, ssh based gatekeeper? that one?
[15:22] <binay> gives different results
[15:23] <soscrewed> tntc: :3
[15:23] <j416> bazhang: yep
[15:23] <bazhang> j416, let me check the forums for a second
[15:23] <j416> bazhang: awesome, thank you.
[15:24] <sudokill> soscrewed, whats wrong, are you trying to recover data, or is your disk failing even after a format?
[15:24] <tntc> sudokill: he's got 1TB of data to recover
[15:24] <sudokill> good luck...
[15:24] <tntc> soscrewed: I'm telling you dude, if you want your data, don't trust that disk. Go spent $100 and get a new hard drive to copy the data to, or you risk losing it all.
[15:24] <vj> hi
[15:25] <vlt> binay: Where's the difference?
[15:25] <tntc> soscrewed: once your stuff is off the disk, then you can worry about whether or not the old disk is ok
[15:25] <sudokill> or just realised you failed and be more careful next time
[15:25] <vlt> binay: Couln't spot any.
[15:25] <dr_willis> i used ddrescue the other day to recover most everything from a 1.5 tb usbhd.
[15:25] <tntc> dr_willis: exactly.
[15:25] <tntc> soscrewed: I know it sucks to go and have to drop $100 on a disk, but the fact is, 1 year of your stuff is probably worth it
[15:26] <soscrewed> sudokill: i dont have a bad disk. i accidentally formated the wrong device. recovered the boot sector. tried to mount. it said invalid access to fat. now i am in fsck.msdos and it says truncating file to 0 bytes
[15:26] <papourmo> implicit none
[15:26] <papourmo> real::xe0,xe1,xe2,ye0,ye1,ye2,vex,vey
[15:26] <papourmo> real::xv0,xv1,xv2,yv0,yv1,yv2,vvx,vvy
[15:26] <papourmo> real::dt,t,pi,tmax,r3v,r3e
[15:26] <papourmo> real::gme,gmv,rev
[15:26] <FloodBot1> papourmo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:26] <papourmo> character(len=40)::outputfile
[15:26] <sudokill> idk, i bought my 1tb F3 for £30, dont know what that is in dollars, $20?
[15:27] <sudokill> or $40 lol idk
[15:27] <Raiders32> question about partitioning...what percentage of a file system space is really needed?  the default is 5%.  that
[15:27] <Senjai> HEy guys, for some reason my computer wont detect my other monitor. When i select mirror image it works, but otherwise it doesn't. Does anyone know what's wrong?
[15:27] <engrxyz> hi i have this strangest thing about ubuntu 11.04 without networking. ifconfig says that interface is up. ping interface ip address and loopback responds. but when i try to ping the gateway, it is not working. did i missed something here?
[15:27] <Raiders32> that's more than 16G for a 300G drive!!
[15:27] <bazhang> j416, did you check backports? it seems to be there for lucid. let me get the link (its at the bottom)
[15:28] <rhin0> raiders32 should be less than that (the basic install is 3gb)
[15:28] <rhin0> about
[15:28] <j416> bazhang: I am not very familiar with how things work, if you have the link, please
[15:28] <sudokill> soscrewed, theres a program called photorec thats supposed to recover files, its included with the partedmagic livecd you could try that
[15:28] <tntc> soscrewed: the more you mess with the FS, the more likely it is that you'll lose it all
[15:28] <Senjai> .
[15:28] <sudokill> tntc is right you sohuld do things from livecd to avoid the blocks being overwrritten
[15:28] <soscrewed> sudokill: i know, it came with testdisk but the thing i am working with is 30 times larger than my hard drive
[15:28] <bazhang> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gitolite    j416 enable backports in your sources.list then apt-get update and it should be there
[15:29] <Raiders32> rhin0, so the reserved space should be 5% of 3gb
[15:29] <speedrunnerG55> help
[15:29] <bazhang> speedrunnerG55, with what
[15:29] <dr_willis> Raiders32,  i always set my reserved space to be like 1%
[15:29] <speedrunnerG55> i ran audacidy and quit, now my sound isnt working
[15:29] <dr_willis> Raiders32,  default is 5%
[15:29] <tntc> sudokill: he should get another disk too. soscrewed: worst case, you use it for backups later, and avoid this whole crappy situation.
[15:29] <j416> bazhang: cool. How can I find this information by myself the next time, so that I won't have to ask?
[15:29] <bazhang> speedrunnerG55,quit what; audacity?
[15:30] <speedrunnerG55> yes
[15:30] <bazhang> j416, I search using ssh based gatekeeper lucid and that turned up the launchpad link
[15:30] <Senjai> HEy guys, for some reason my computer wont detect my other monitor. When i select mirror image it works, but otherwise it doesn't. Does anyone know what's wrong?
[15:30] <sudokill> well i remember losign 600GB of data (couple years worth) when resizing and cancelling on the "simulation" stage, i just did a clean start and never made that mistake again
[15:30] <blink> hey guys, wondering why my load avg is always 1, CPU use shows 0%, I'm using an encrypted volume for ~/Private but nothing special beyong that
[15:30] <j416> bazhang: and how do I know it's in backports and safe to use?
[15:30] <bazhang> j416, you can /msg ubottu find package (or related term) and that sometimes gets a hit as well
[15:31] <Raiders32> dr_willis, thanks, I know the default is 5%, I'm just saying that's more than 16G for a 300G file.  I seems a bit much.  I guess this is a hold over from the days when there were much smaller drives
[15:31] <sabgenton> can you see what packages u installed with apt-get now days
[15:31] <j416> ok!
[15:31] <tntc> sudokill: backups backups backups backups :)
[15:31] <sabgenton> in desketop the software center tells you an install history
[15:31] <sabgenton> aptituted does in /var/log/aptitude
[15:31] <sabgenton> but I can't see anything in apt-get
[15:31] <FloodBot1> sabgenton: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:31] <j416> bazhang: you browsed the forums to find that it is in backports?
[15:31] <Raiders32> 300G drive that is
[15:31] <sudokill> tntc, but you cant backup your backup drive lol if the drive is 1tb and you only have a 60gb ssd
[15:32] <tntc> sudokill: then you should've bought 2x 1TB :)
[15:32] <bazhang> j416, did not need the forums in this case, the first google link was to launchpad package page. there are PPA of it for later versions of ubuntu
[15:32] <brainwave92> how to get the ubuntu default theme set now that i uninstalled the default themes?
[15:32] <sudokill> tntc, no, i should have not resized it and cancelled it lol
[15:32] <brainwave92> i tried installing gnome-themes-standard, extra, more, ubuntu, but didnt get clearlooks back
[15:32] <tntc> sudokill: well, that too. but backups are the super duper key. everything else is just playing russian roulette with your data.
[15:32] <j416> bazhang: well, it doesn't seem like it's in the lucid backports repo?
[15:33] <j416> bazhang: I uncommented the two lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, then aptitude update && aptitude search gitolite
[15:33] <j416> no results
[15:33] <BluesKaj> sabgenton, look in /var/log/apt
[15:33] <j416> what gives?
[15:33] <bazhang> https://launchpad.net/~kklimonda/+archive/backports j416
[15:34] <bazhang> j416, enable that PPA, apologies I did not explain it clearly
[15:34] <Senjai> Does anyone know atleast how to find out what graphics card i have?
[15:34] <j416> oh
[15:34] <odix> i have serious issues with ubuntu, upon loading the gui it just gives me a terminal in the corner of the screen
[15:34] <bazhang> Senjai, lspci in terminal
[15:34] <odix> i removed gdm, ubuntu desktpo and reinstalled to nothing, even fixed broken packages
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Senjai, lspci | grep VGA
[15:34] <j416> bazhang: that repo is launchpads backports repo?
[15:35] <odix> sometiems i get x server socket already in use, i then kill it with /etc/.d gdm stop or whatever, and restart, and it brings me back to the same
[15:35] <bazhang> j416, its a PPA of backports, in this case
[15:35] <Senjai> thank you
[15:35] <j416> bazhang: thank you!
[15:35] <j416> bazhang: trying.
[15:35] <bazhang> j416, launchpad hosts PPA
[15:35] <j416> ah
[15:35] <odix> anybody have any explanations ?
[15:35] <Senjai> Ugh, I need my dual monitor, does anyone have an idea of why it might not be working? It worked in 10.10
[15:36] <jacky24> does anyone know an archive extractor that doesn't stop extracting the next archives after one set has errors ?
[15:36] <j416> bazhang: seems a bit unsecure to add this just like that, is it?
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[15:36] <speedrunnerG55> help
[15:36] <speedrunnerG55> idk what to do
[15:36] <j416> bazhang: thinking, perhaps it would be wiser to just install gitolite from source (since that's the only software I'm interested in)
[15:36] <speedrunnerG55> ahhh
[15:37] <odix> should i reinstall ?
[15:37] <odix> anyway i could backup all my sql things before i do ?
[15:37] <xxxxpsychoxxxx> qw
[15:37] <speedrunnerG55> ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
[15:37] <speedrunnerG55> kdjfdksjfdkjddskadsjkqqqqqq
[15:37] <speedrunnerG55> QQQQQQ
[15:37] <bazhang> speedrunnerG55, stop that
[15:38] <n3rV3> speedrunnerG55, i think i missed your problem description
[15:38] <n3rV3> :)
[15:38] <speedrunnerG55> my sound stopped working after i clossed audacity
[15:39] <speedrunnerG55> T_T
[15:39] <n3rV3> and you tried.. ?
[15:39] <speedrunnerG55> i looked at the sound preferences
[15:39] <bazhang> !details | speedrunnerG55
[15:39] <speedrunnerG55> nothing is muted or turned down
[15:39] <jacky24> does anyone know an archive extractor that doesn't stop extracting the next archives after one set has errors ?
[15:40] <xxxxpsychoxxxx> did anyone know how to install pwu2200GB wireless driver?
[15:40] <n3rV3> speedrunnerG55, did you check hardware tab under sound preferences
[15:40] <speedrunnerG55> i have a problem with sound. im running ubuntu 11.04 when i try to do annything that has sound (even sound effects) i get no sound
[15:40] <shellclear> I have a notebook pavilion dv52114br and I'm having problems with bluetooth device id 148f: 1000, ralink anyone know if you can make it work?
[15:40] <speedrunnerG55> yes
[15:41] <sabgenton> BluesKaj: it doesn't show just what I installed like software center
[15:41] <n3rV3> and correct device is selected?
[15:41] <jacky24> no one gives a fuck on this support channel, i'm downloading winrar and wine it _!_
[15:41] <speedrunnerG55> i tried boatgh
[15:41] <speedrunnerG55> i tried both
[15:41] <IdleOne> !language | jacky24
[15:41] <jacky24> !language IdleOne
[15:41] <glda19> how use thunberbird 5.0 with ligthning 1.04b and shared it wit xp
[15:42] <OmRobXb> Hey, I been having problems with GNOME on Ubuntu 11.04. It's changed the desktop appearance to a ugly grey one instead of the normal black
[15:42] <OmRobXb> *I've
[15:42]  * speedrunnerG55 rolls around
[15:42] <newbeee> speedrunnerG55: Tried settings in alsamixer?
[15:42] <speedrunnerG55> weres that?
[15:43] <glda19> how use thunderbird
[15:43] <newbeee> speedrunnerG55: Go to terminal and type alsamixer
[15:43] <speedrunnerG55> holy crap
[15:43] <odix> nobody ?
[15:44] <speedrunnerG55> how do i use this?
[15:44] <odix> anybody ever boot x and just get a terminal in left top corner of screen
[15:44] <odix> thats it
[15:44] <newbeee> speedrunnerG55: And see if any devies are muted or volume is low
[15:44] <Stockholm_Angel> !irc
[15:44] <usr13> speedrunnerG55: right, left and up arrows.
[15:44] <usr13> right, left, up and down
[15:44] <Seric> Hello
[15:45] <Seric> Anyone around?
[15:45] <newbeee> speedrunnerG55: It looks terrifying but works easily you can use your arrow keys to choose different options and then increase or decrease using your arrow keys
[15:45] <ikonia> Seric: 1400+ people are
[15:45] <bhearsum> please forgive the complete newb question, but: how do i file a bug on the Synaptic driver? launchpad.net doesn't seem to let me file directly, and the "ubuntu-bug" program won't let me report it without having a PID (which I don't have)
[15:45] <BluesKaj> sabgenton, do you want find a particular installed package or...?
[15:45] <speedrunnerG55> master?
[15:45] <speedrunnerG55> is all the way up
[15:46] <thebomb> hi, anyone know how to enable your "application, places and System" menu with 3d effects ?
[15:46] <shellclear> setou achando q pode ser algum problema com o modulo do device
[15:46] <blink> hey guys, wondering why my load avg is always 1, CPU use shows 0%, I'm using an encrypted volume for ~/Private but nothing special beyond that
[15:46] <odix> how can i completely remove x windows
[15:46] <shellclear> pelo q entendi meu bluetooth e  na mesma placa wireless
[15:46] <shellclear> rt3090
[15:46] <Seric> Does anyone know a USB Wireless adapter that will work out of the box without using nidswrapper?
[15:46] <newbeee> speedrunnerG55: Are you sure nothing is muted?
[15:46] <duvel> Can I ask a somewhat offensive question?
[15:46] <blink> odix: dpkg --purge xorg-server
[15:46] <speedrunnerG55> i think
[15:46] <sabgenton> BluesKaj: I want a nice way to see all the packages I installed last week say
[15:46] <duvel> Why do the 64-bit drivers for Adobe Flash in Linux suck so badly?
[15:46] <speedrunnerG55>   < Master >3D Contr   PCM     Synth     Line   Line-In     CD      Mic
[15:47] <ikonia> duvel: ask adobe
[15:47] <blink> duvel: ask adobe for me too.
[15:47] <shellclear> sorry
[15:47] <odix> no installed package xorg-server
[15:47] <sabgenton> BluesKaj: or since I installed ubuntu
[15:47] <usr13> odix: sudo apt-get remove gnome* gdm
[15:47] <duvel> ikonia: Hahah. I will.
[15:47] <odix> already tried that ;\
[15:47] <sabgenton> it would be nice to hide all the dependenys from that list too
[15:47] <n3rV3> speedrunnerG55, could be that the player is stuck and not freeing up audio resource, try rebooting
[15:47] <usr13> odix: sudo apt-get remove gnome* gdm xorg-server
[15:47] <odix> really weird it works like once then i get put into a terminal on the default ubutnu purple background in the left top corner of the screen, get some issues about unity to
[15:48] <odix> you know what i downloaded server, then added desktop
[15:48] <speedrunnerG55> n3rv3 i did
[15:48] <sabgenton> BluesKaj: packagemanagement lists a to technical
[15:48] <odix> i wnoder if that has anything to do with it, i used ubuntu-desktop
[15:48] <ILoatheVista> Okay, so, I finally got so sick of Windows Vista that I installed Ubuntu for a dual boot. I am trying to find drivers/firmware for the hardware I have, but the searching is going super slow.  Anyone with ideas on how to do this quickly?
[15:48] <newbeee> speedrunnerG55: Did it work?
[15:48] <odix> unable to lcoate package xorg-server...
[15:48] <usr13> odix: sudo apt-get remove xserver*
[15:48] <speedrunnerG55> no
[15:49] <BluesKaj> sabgenton, dpkg --list | grep ^ii.* | cut -d ' ' -f 3 | sort | less
[15:49] <dr_willis> ILoatheVista,  the addational-drivers tool is supposed to handle most cases..  other then video and wireless drivers..  i rarely need any drivers for anything else.. and i rarely need wireless drivers these days. they are included
[15:49] <Senjai> Guys, i need to install a previous video driver
[15:49] <Senjai> How do i do this?
[15:50] <dr_willis> !pin | Senjai
[15:50] <usr13> Senjai: Depends on what previous driver it was.
[15:50] <BluesKaj> ILoatheVista, run lspci in the terminal to look at your hardware
[15:50] <Senjai> It was one installed by additional drivers
[15:50] <odix> how do i reinstall completely ?
[15:50] <Senjai> IM removing it to install a different version
[15:50] <odix> hopefully this fixes my issues
[15:51] <usr13> odix: What is it exactly you are wanting to do?
[15:51] <glda19> how use thunberbird 5.0 with ligthning 1.04b and shared it wit xp
[15:51] <odix> usr: get it to work
[15:51] <dr_willis> remove/reinstalling packages  - rarely fix things i find.. its just 'windows mindset' that people keep trying.. :)
[15:51] <usr13> odix: What is the issue?
[15:51] <odix> it boots to a terminal in the left top corner with the ubuntu background
[15:51] <odix> if i load up firefox, it loads but i cant click anything or goto any websites, gui is all funny, automatiicaly closes when i click like file
[15:52] <usr13> odix: So the screen resolution is wrong?
[15:52] <dr_willis> odix,  so your default desktop is messed up> you dio get to X but its not set right?
[15:52] <ILoatheVista> BluesKaj, could one assume that if I see the manufacturers then the drivers/firmware are installed?
[15:52] <odix> also my selenium server wont correct
[15:52] <odix> i doubt its screen resolution
[15:52] <odix> im back in cmd prompt
[15:52] <usr13> odix: Did you install some 3rd party vidoe driver?
[15:52] <odix> install ubuntu-desktop? or gdm gnome xserver
[15:52] <odix> usr: nope
[15:52] <BrianMBI> Question: purpose of 'sudo apt-get autoclean'
[15:52] <odix> it might be an issue tho, its onboard via chips
[15:52] <odix> so..
[15:53] <usr13> odix: So what happened to get to where you are now?
[15:53] <dr_willis> BrianMBI,  removes  stuff from the cache. or was that 'clean'
[15:53] <BluesKaj> ILoatheVista, mostly yes , unless there's some aspect of your install that's not working properly ..then it could be a driver update/ upgrade issue
[15:53] <ILoatheVista> Wow, okay, so I am in better shape then I thought...
[15:53] <BrianMBI> clean
[15:53]  * speedrunnerG55 misses my sound
[15:53] <sabgenton> BluesKaj: cool but includes dependance's :( and does not tell me just what was installed last week :(
[15:53] <KM0201> odix: if you're trying to use Unity w/ that VIA chip, it should default to Gnome... cuz i don't think it supports 3D
[15:54] <odix> it does
[15:54] <usr13> odix: xrandr
[15:54] <odix> and it says i cant use unity, it then loads the default desktkop, i reboot, and then i get that
[15:54] <odix> xrandr .
[15:54] <odix> ?
[15:54] <ILoatheVista> The only troubling thing now would be that I have an AverMedia A307 TV Tuner that I don't think is supported.  Maybe I could sell it.  I am thinking about turning this into a media center for another room in my house anyways...
[15:54] <odix> im back in cmd line
[15:55] <dr_willis> ViaChipsets are very poorly supported by the company. They dont love linux :(
[15:55] <usr13> odix: Open a terminal and type   xrandr  and hit enter.  See what it says.
[15:55] <usr13> odix: better still:   xrandr |pastebinit
[15:55] <BluesKaj> ILoatheVista,  there are some media apps/codecs  that you may need to install , but if you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed that should take care of most of the media stuff.
[15:55] <odix> cmd not found
[15:56] <usr13> odix: xrandr |pastebinit  #And send us resulting URL
[15:56] <speedrunnerG55> :'(
[15:56] <odix> pastebinit sweet
[15:56] <ILoatheVista> I could find that in the software center, BluesKaj?
[15:56] <BluesKaj> sabgenton, sorry , i'm out of ideas
[15:56] <BluesKaj> ILoatheVista, yes
[15:56] <glda19> how use thunberbird 5.0 with ligthning 1.04b and shared it wit xp
[15:56] <ikonia> glda19: what do you mean how to use it ?
[15:56] <glda19> how use thunberbird 5.0 with ligthning 1.04b and shared it wit xp
[15:57] <sabgenton> blueKaj: all good :)
[15:57] <ikonia> glda19: repeating it after I've asked to you explain it doesn't give any more info
[15:57] <glda19> ikonia, did you work with thunderbird
[15:57] <ikonia> glda19: I do use thunderbird, yes
[15:57] <usr13> glda19: What do you mean, "shared it wit xp"?
[15:58] <odix> i am trying to send an empty document
[15:58] <glda19> usr13, share ith with xp
[15:58] <bilig> hi, i need to backup my home folder, but it is encrypted, does any one know how to do that?
[15:58] <usr13> glda19: Just tell it to not delete your emails until such time as you delete them from your inbox.
[15:58] <odix> ill get xrandr
[15:58] <odix> hold up
[15:58] <usr13> sudo apt-get install xrandr
[15:59] <sabgenton> blueKaj: I might remove apt-get and force myself to use aptitude as /var/log/aptitude show all off aptitudes install actions
[15:59] <odix> xrandr has no isntallation candidate, xserver-utils replaces it
[15:59] <usr13> so install xserver-utils
[15:59] <glda19> usr13 my profile is on a ntfs partion so i can read the mail in xp an ubuntu
[16:00] <sudokill> glda19, why not just set up a profile for xp and one for ubuntu?
[16:00] <KM0201> odix: usr13 thats weird, i have 11.04 (granted, its Lubuntu) and i have xrandr
[16:00] <ikonia> glda19: put your data on your linux partition,
[16:00] <glda19> sudokill, how can i do that
[16:00] <BrianMBI> I would like to share how run PacketTracer 5.3 in Ubuntu without it looking horrible. http://geekingitup.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/cisco-packet-tracer-5-3-in-ubuntu-10-04/
[16:00] <bilig> bump
[16:00] <odix> hmm
[16:01] <odix> isntalled server utils usr
[16:01] <bilig> does anyone now how to backup home folder in ubuntu if it is encrypted
[16:01] <glda19> ikonia, why to put the data on linux partion
[16:01] <ikonia> glda19: what format are you storing your mails, imap ? pop3 ?
[16:01] <ILoatheVista> Ack, where do I uninstall packages?!
[16:01] <odix> man im thinking a reinstall is necesarry now
[16:01] <glda19> ikonia,  both
[16:01] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: synaptic, ubuntu software center, apt-get... there's several places
[16:01] <j416> what is the command to install things like in the ubuntu installer, like lamp-server ?
[16:01] <j416> there is some command that will grab stuff, right?
[16:01] <ikonia> glda19: ok - so then there isn't a problem as mails are stored on the server, not locally
[16:02] <j416> t..something
[16:02] <odix> j416 apt-get ?
[16:02] <j416> odix: there is a wrapper
[16:02] <ikonia> glda19: just use thunderbird in both Ubuntu and Linux and connect to the mail server - there is no need to "share data"
[16:02] <bazhang> j416, tasksel you mean?
[16:02] <odix> ok, so i think ill just reinstall x windows sytem now, whats the command for htat ?
[16:02] <usr13> bilig: Something like:  tar czvf home-files.tgz ../
[16:02] <j416> bazhang: that's it! thanks  :)
[16:02] <glda19> ikonia i have also a pop3
[16:02] <usr13> bilig: Something like:  tar czvf /media/disk/home-files.tgz ../
[16:02] <ikonia> glda19: set it to not remove emails from the server until manually deleted
[16:02] <odix> actually, is there a cmd to chk all packages, reinstall if necesarry, i already booted fom cd and did rescue broken packages
[16:03] <usr13> bilig: tar czvf /media/disk/Documents.tgz Documents/
[16:03] <ILoatheVista> KM0201, okay...you might be able to help a noob find the most painless way...in order to install restricted-extras I have to get rid of the libav codecs and another package that escapes me at the moment...suggestions?
[16:04] <ILoatheVista> I am a noob, be gentle.
[16:04] <bilig> usr13, thanks in fact i dont really want to compress, i just need to remove the encryption and i've read that it can only be done by creating a new user
[16:04] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: so?... you don't really need those codecs w/ restricted-extras installed (or you shouldn't anyway)
[16:04] <usr13> bilig: tar cvf /media/disk/Documents.bak Documents/
[16:04] <odix> im grabbing xorg-server,. anythign else i need ?
[16:04] <glda19> ikonia, reading mail is noth a problem
[16:04] <Fudge> why do you need to get rid of them ILoatheVista
[16:04] <ikonia> glda19: then what is the problem ?
[16:05] <Fudge> anyone aware of things that may slow down authentication on a gigabit network for a home ubuntu server?
[16:05] <glda19> ikonia, did you use ligthning
[16:05] <odix> usr where ya at ;p
[16:05] <ikonia> Fudge: many things, tell us your problem
[16:05] <ILoatheVista> When I attempt to install the restricted extras from the software center it tells me I need to get rid of them before they can install them, Fudge and KM0201.
[16:05] <ikonia> glda19: I have done
[16:05] <usr13> Fudge: Not haveing a 10/100/1000 router or NIC(s)
[16:05] <bilig> usr13, ok so with that the content i backup will be unencrypted?
[16:05] <glda19> what ikonia ?
[16:05] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:06] <ikonia> glda19: "I have used lightning"
[16:06] <usr13> bilig: I don't think so.  Try it and see.
[16:06] <glda19> but now nany mory ikonia
[16:06] <ikonia> glda19: what ?
[16:06] <ILoatheVista> The latest and greatest downloadable on the front page of Ubuntu, KM0201. :)
[16:06] <usr13> bilig: Just do a small folder first and see what you get.
[16:06] <glda19> ikonia, did you use it now
[16:07] <bilig> usr13, ok
[16:07] <Fudge> my friend has got bit nics and 16 port gb switch
[16:07] <odix> aight back in x
[16:07] <odix> lets see what happens after reboot
[16:07] <sudokill> ILoatheVista, try searching and removing them in synaptic package manager
[16:07] <ikonia> glda19: I'm fed up of trying to get information from you to help you, so - sort yourself out
[16:07] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: well, thats not a very good answer, because you can still download 10.04.. but anyway.. open up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"  it will remove the conflicts and install the new software (frankly, ubuntu software center should have done this also)
[16:08] <usr13> Fudge: If he really has 10/100/1000 NICs and a 10/100/1000 router, I don't know why it wouldn't be fast.
[16:08] <Senjai> Guys, okay, when i install the driver, dual monitors dont work, when i uninstall it they do work. I get this error with the driver installed. http://tinypic.com/r/2ztgl0o/7 does anyone know whats wrong?
[16:09] <glda19> ikonia, i use lithning and everything works fine. i could read my agenda and task in xp and linux
[16:09] <ikonia> glda19: I'm not interested any more
[16:09] <Senjai> http://oi51.tinypic.com/2ztgl0o.jpg for the direct image, tinypic resizes it weird
[16:09] <KM0201> sudokill: ILoatheVista tracking down the packages one by one in the package manager to remove them, defeats the purpose of the package manager.. it's designed to do that automatically (I'm not sure why Ubuntu software center wouldn't to be truthful)
[16:10] <Fudge> i think he may be using putty or something, states lag between username and password prompt
[16:10] <duvel> Senjai that's beautiful, is that ubuntu-media ?
[16:10] <sudokill> idk thought it might be a workaround if it didnt work
[16:10] <jigsaw> hi fudge, all
[16:10] <duvel> hi jigsaw, all
[16:10] <ikonia> Fudge: that's quite common for dns resolution/reverse dns resolution problems
[16:10] <KM0201> sudokill: if its not working, then he's doin something wrong.. thats what the package manager is designed to do.
[16:10] <Senjai> duvel, ubuntu studio, but i still cant solve this :/
[16:10] <duvel> Senjai: What's the problem.. Sorry, wasn't following.
[16:11] <jigsaw> yes using putty
[16:11] <vmcurious> If i have a headless ubuntu server and i run virtual machines on the server, is it possible to have a desktop ubuntu VM present the graphical desktop on the same machine (there would be a monitor attached to the PC)?  I was having trouble trying to make google understand my question
[16:11] <Senjai> I cant use dual monitors
[16:11] <jigsaw> tis i with the lag :-o
[16:11] <duvel> Senjai: Which graphics card are you using ?
[16:11] <Fudge> ikonia  would there be any dns issues if he is using lan ip's?
[16:11] <Senjai> duvel, it wont recognize my external monitor with the propriertary driver (the newest version)
[16:11] <ikonia> Fudge: yes
[16:11] <ILoatheVista> sudokill, KM0201, sorry!  I just figured out what was going on.  It was *warning* me that when I installed the restricted extras is was going to take out those packages for me.  I am so used to a sucky Windows system I thought I had to do it myself...
[16:11] <Senjai> duvel, without it works just fine though.. ATI Radeon HD 3670 Mobility
[16:11] <Fudge> ok ikonia  thats good thanks for the help m8
[16:12] <sudokill> ILoatheVista, yea ubuntu does a lot for you
[16:12] <Senjai> duvel, without the driver it works, with it, it doesnt
[16:12] <sudokill> compared to windows
[16:12] <duvel> Senjai: Hmm, I see. Do you absolutely need the proprietary drivers?
[16:12] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: ok, that makes sense...
[16:12] <Senjai> duvel, not that i can tell
[16:12] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: i should say, that makes more sense...
[16:12] <Senjai> duvel, minecraft doesnt have a noticeable performance hit (the best quality game i have on ubuntu)
[16:12] <Fudge> you know the worse thing about using windows, which is rarely. this isnt a bash... i keep going to switch to another desktop or push an app to it and there is only one desktop....
[16:12] <glda19> how use the last version ot thunderbird with the last version of ligthning
[16:13] <ikonia> glda19: use packages supplied in the ubuntu repo
[16:13] <duvel> Senjai: LOL. I'd say just used the non-proprietary then. It's a sad answer but... If it works without them, leave it be :)
[16:13] <usr13> Fudge:  Could be that nameserver is down or not responding.  Check first on the list /etc/resolv.conf
[16:13] <Senjai> .. lol
[16:13] <glda19> ikonia leave it
[16:13] <Senjai> duvel, does ubuntu come with stock drivers or something/
[16:13] <ikonia> glda19: I'm telling you to use the supported packaged versions in the ubuntu repos - not other versions
[16:13] <ikonia> glda19: rather than asking over and over again, use the packaged versions that are supported
[16:14] <duvel> Senjai: Ubuntu-studio might?
[16:14] <sudokill> Senjai, graphics drivers?
[16:14] <Fudge> tks usr13
[16:14] <Senjai> duvel, perhaps, didn't check..
[16:14] <usr13> Fudge: If the router using or  giving out a nameserver that is bogus, it will be slow to resolve doman names.
[16:14] <glda19> ikonia i used the stable verdio 5.0
[16:14] <Senjai> sudokill, sorry? I installed the proprietary ones from ATI
[16:14] <ILoatheVista> KM0201, this is an XPS One [Red] that I got from Dell in 2008.  I had Vista [insert sarcastic air quotes here] ULTIMATE and nothing but headaches.  I had a friend tell me to just jump into Ubuntu...I'm still in the "getting used to things mode."
[16:14] <ikonia> glda19: ok - so there you go then, using the 2 packages versions should be no problem
[16:15] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: your friend is an idiot... please tell me you're dual booting
[16:15] <ILoatheVista> I am.
[16:15] <glda19> ikonia, you don't understand it i think
[16:15] <sudokill> ILoatheVista, you'll get used to ubuntu quickly
[16:15] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: good... going cold turkey to a new OS, is a good way to reinstall Windows in less than 3 days.
[16:15] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: just use it, and only use vista when ou absolutely can't get something to work.
[16:15] <ILoatheVista> KM0201, I am.  I thought I would try it out to make sure everything worked, first.
[16:16] <usr13> Fudge: I thought you were talking about the LAN speeds.  If you are talking about accessing the outside, (the internet), getting a gb router and gb NICs are not going to make a difference.  If it was 1.5mbps before it will be 1.5mbps after
[16:16] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: did you install w/ Wubi?
[16:16] <ILoatheVista> KM0201, Yep.
[16:16]  * KM0201 sighs
[16:16] <Senjai> Okay uninstalled the driver
[16:16] <Senjai> restarting yet again
[16:16] <bluj> hi... how can i see the filelist a(n) (uninstalled) package will install?
[16:17] <dyd>  guys i'm trying to have some fun with python, coding a little game; i wanted to create some pixel style images for the characters, do you know any good editor?
[16:17] <ILoatheVista> KM0201, sigh as in "uh-oh" or sigh as in "relief"? LOL
[16:17] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: as in "uh-oh".. wubi si a train wreck.
[16:17] <ILoatheVista> Crap.
[16:17] <edbian> dyd: gimp ?
[16:18] <KM0201> !info gimp
[16:18] <KM0201> i kinda miss gimp, don't understand why they removed it from the default install.
[16:18] <dyd> edbian: yea i'm using that one now, but i was wondering if there's anything "smaller", like mspaint maybe?
[16:19] <KM0201> it is kinda bloated though, and as the live cd gets bigger and bigger, a program that size becomes a necessary sacrifice
[16:19] <Senjai> interesting
[16:19] <edbian> KM0201: I hate how people criticize it for not being photoshop all the time
[16:19] <Senjai> duvel, well it works perfeclty, so sad :(
[16:19] <sudokill> KM0201, i like gimp, i just cant wait until they change to a single UI like photoshop
[16:19] <KM0201> edbian: i think thats one of its advantages.. :)
[16:19] <sudokill> the multiple windows of gimp is what everyone hates
[16:19] <sudokill> such a mess
[16:19] <[D]rammer> <?php echo ('Hello Everyone'); ?> :D
[16:19] <KM0201> sudokill: the GUI is fine, i actually prefer it... GIMP is just as powerful as PS, it's just different, and it has a STEEP learning curve.
[16:19] <ILoatheVista> KM0201, it really wouldn't be any different than what I experienced with Vista...there were days when I couldn't keep Windows Explorer stable long enough to COPY FILES...sometimes my system backups would take days and I was virus/spyware/malware free.
[16:20] <ILoatheVista> Okay...maybe hours...not days...felt like days.
[16:20] <sudokill> ILoatheVista, if youve only just installed ubuntu if i was you i'd do a proper install format the hwole drive its not hard to get used to
[16:20] <sudokill> if vista was that bad
[16:20] <KM0201> ILoatheVista: well.. my biggest problem w/ Wubi, is if something happens to Windows, there's a good chance it will brick both OS's, if something happens to Ubuntu, there's a good chance it will brick both OS's.. if you have a traditional dual boot system, you should usually be able to boot at least one of the OS's.
[16:20] <usr13> If you use gimp's hot keys, it's very fast to change modes.  It is very powerful
[16:21] <sudokill> otherwise youve got a mess, with an ntfs filesystem
[16:21] <KM0201> i've used Gimp a long time.. .couldn't imagine using PS now.. even w/ the "multi windows".. which doesn't bother me at all.
[16:21] <sudokill> KM0201, theyre bringing single window in next verison i think, maybe even in the beta
[16:22] <KM0201> sudokill: an unecessary change IMO.
[16:22] <sudokill> im pretty sure you'll be able to switch
[16:22] <IdleOne> This gimp convo would be perfect for #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:22] <sudokill> ^
[16:22] <usr13> sudokill: We should go to #ubuntu-offtopic with this, but I don't see how they can cram it all into one window...
[16:23] <sudokill> easily... lol ok ill stop
[16:25] <vmcurious> here is maybe a better form of my question:  does KVM in ubuntu server provide "hypervisor" style of virtualization?  Meaning, can I normally be running  a few headless virtual server appliances on a machine, but occasionally start up a ubuntu desktop vm appliance locally on the machine and have a segregated gui environment?
[16:25] <ikonia> vmcurious: kvm is a hypervisor
[16:25] <stephanmg> xserver-xorg-video upgrade slow down my GPU? seems so it did somehow
[16:26] <vmcurious> ikonia: So does that make my scenario possible then?
[16:26] <ikonia> vmcurious: I don't understand what you're actually asking
[16:26] <ikonia> vmcurious: as I read it, it doesn't make sense
[16:28] <glda19> ikonia, the problem is that the add-*on ligthning isn't working as before
[16:28] <Janusman> I'm moving to a new laptop and have some paid software (via the Ubuntu software center), how do I transfer that onto the new machine?
[16:28] <ikonia> glda19: did you get the lightning package out of the ubuntu repos ?
[16:28] <vmcurious> ikonia:  so i have 1 physical machine, on which i want to normally be running headless server appliances.  Occasionally I would want to start up a graphical desktop environment on the same machine, but prefereably have it segregated into its own VM...i can describe my use case if necessary
[16:28] <KM0201> Janusman: hmm thats interesting... not sure on that one
[16:28] <ikonia> Janusman: just re-download it
[16:29] <IdleOne> Janusman: when you redownload it will ask for the "key" you were given after purchase
[16:29] <ikonia> vmcurious: that's just multiple vm's, you have one vm as a server, although the most obvious solution would be to have the host OS just start a desktop when you need it
[16:29] <glda19> ikonia, now i have to make my one instal version so that i can read it in xp and linux
[16:30] <ikonia> glda19: no you don't
[16:30] <glda19> ikonia, what ?
[16:30] <ikonia> glda19: "no you don't"
[16:30] <Janusman> IdleOne, ikonia thanks
[16:30] <glda19> what ikonia
[16:31] <kristianpaul> Hello
[16:31] <tadablue> hello
[16:31] <IdleOne> Janusman: if all else fails you can call Canonical support and they will help you with that (I think, don't quote me)
[16:31] <ikonia> glda19: I'm not repeating it again - if you can't understand "no you don't" there is nothing I can help you with
[16:31] <kristianpaul> There is a Ubuntu One client for non-ubuntu systems?
[16:31] <tadablue> quit
[16:31] <Janusman> IdleOne: =)
[16:32] <edbian> kristianpaul: It's open source.  In theory you could compile / run it on anything.
[16:32] <odix> is there a way to change your sudo and your default password
[16:32] <IdleOne> kristianpaul: I heard there is a windows version being beta tested. try #ubuntuone
[16:32] <edbian> kristianpaul: Might get tricky when it comes to the GUI APIs and path names but if they did things right it should be possible.
[16:32] <odix> or should i just change my group to non admin?
[16:32] <kristianpaul> ok
[16:33] <kristianpaul> edbian: yeah, i was looking  a static compiled binary or somethng like that
[16:33] <kristianpaul> but yes
[16:33] <kristianpaul> ok
[16:33] <edbian> odix: Changing your password changes your sudo password too.  It is easy using that little 'users and groups' thing in Ubuntu.  Being in the group 'admin' allows you to use sudo at all.
[16:33] <odix> im cmd line
[16:33] <odix> sorry should of said that
[16:34] <vmcurious> ikonia:  so here is my use case that may give better insight into my thinking:  I'm wanting to build a box that is a home theater unit that also runs VM appliances I need.  The HTPC portion will be used infrequently, but I would like the other appliances to be running all the time.  I thought that if I segregated the HTPC portion into its own VM that it would actually be more secure as I wouldn't be running a desktop GUI all the t
[16:34] <edbian> odix: That's ok.  sudo passwd
[16:34] <edbian> odix: Changes your password.
[16:34] <odix> thanks
[16:34] <chathura77> can anyone please tell me a good application to record the screen with audio. I am using Ubuntu 11.04. I have tried xvidcap but the audio is not working
[16:34] <ikonia> vmcurious: I wouldn't worry about security, but what you've suggested will work
[16:35] <IdleOne> chathura77: recordmydesktop perhaps
[16:35] <vmcurious> chathura77: ffmpeg can do what you wish
[16:35] <vmcurious> chathura77: i've not tried all the options, but from what I've read ffmpeg is the best performance solution
[16:36] <chathura77> IdleOne: vmcurious: ok thakns I shall try
[16:36] <mtsw> 123
[16:36] <chathura77> vmcurious: does it record the audio fine?
[16:36] <KM0201> chathura77: recordmydesktop, i don't think it records audio, unless its through a Mic... (which i don't think is what you want)
[16:36] <glda19> how can i see where the packages of xul-ext-ligthning are installed
[16:36] <vmcurious> chathura77: ffmpeg is very flexible
[16:37] <vmcurious> chathura77: you may have to do some reading, let me see if i can find you a youtube instruction video i've seen
[16:37] <justchecking> hey, could anyone give me a list of terminal commands to test the security of an external server?
[16:37] <ikonia> justchecking: what ? there is no such thing
[16:37] <ikonia> justchecking: you have to know how to penetration test
[16:37] <chathura77> KM0201: oh ok
[16:38] <justchecking> ikonia: penetration test?
[16:38] <edbian> justchecking: It's more elaborate than that.
[16:38] <chathura77> vmcurious : sure
[16:38] <ikonia> justchecking: yes, test a server for it's securtiy
[16:38] <justchecking> okay how would I go about it then?
[16:39] <justchecking> could you direct me to a site that goes into detail?
[16:39] <ikonia> justchecking: you don't just "go about it" it's an exerience given skill
[16:39] <ikonia> experience
[16:39] <justchecking> I see
[16:40] <edbian> justchecking: I'm googling a good doc.
[16:40] <Blah> hey guys im having trouble with a raid setup, I'm stuck on the grub rescue screen with the error "no such device e918...."
[16:40] <justchecking> thanks
[16:40] <edbian> justchecking: He's something that google pulled up: http://www.net-security.org/article.php?id=109
[16:41] <edbian> justchecking: and on o'reilly book:  http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596006709
[16:41] <edbian> I think O'Reilly gives a hint as to how elaborate a subject it is.
[16:41] <justchecking> okay thanks
[16:42] <matthew_sixpiece> looking for help regarding my cd-drive.
[16:42] <matthew_sixpiece> ubuntu isn't recognizing it at all
[16:42] <justchecking> I want to do a comprehensive port scan. Could you help me out?
[16:42] <pfifo> whats the ligetest weight image editor available for ubuntu? tuxpaint is 100M and gimp is 150M, so both those aren't 'light'
[16:42] <ikonia> pfifo: that is disk size, not ram
[16:43] <pfifo> ikonia, yes in disk size
[16:43] <glda19> ikonia, where hare the ligthning pakages out sinapic installed
[16:43] <tntc> Is there any way to surpress the bar of unity popping out when I click and drag items? I'm trying to drag them to the places bar on the left side of my screen, but the unity bar keeps popping out.
[16:43] <ikonia> pfifo: then, that's quite small
[16:43] <ikonia> glda19: not looked - don't know, fed up of discussing with you
[16:44] <pfifo> ikonia, surely theres a 'paint'
[16:44] <KM0201> pfifo: of course... mtpaint  i think
[16:44] <KM0201> !info mtpaint
[16:44] <ikonia> pfifo: tux paint I believe is classed as "paint"
[16:44] <Taftse> can someone tell me how to setup su root access or point me to a tutorial ?
[16:44] <pfifo> ikonia, like i said, its 100MB installed with deps
[16:44] <ikonia> Taftse: you don't need to do that
[16:45] <IdleOne> !root | Taftse
[16:45] <KM0201> pfifo: see above.. mtpaint is fairly small.
[16:45] <pfifo> KM0201, yeah just checked 2M thats what I needed, thanks
[16:46] <justchecking> ikonia: hey, do you know anything about port scanning?
[16:46] <edbian> justchecking: I do!
[16:47] <justchecking> edbian: could you help me out then
[16:47] <edbian> justchecking: yes
[16:47] <justchecking> I want to do a comprehensive port scan on an ip
[16:47] <edbian> justchecking: nmap ip
[16:47] <edbian> justchecking: :)
[16:47] <justchecking> i have used "nmap -sS ip"
[16:47] <gamblermc> looking for help regarding ubuntu NOT recognizing my cd-rom
[16:48] <edbian> justchecking: What is the -sS  for?  (Wanna PM ?)
[16:48] <justchecking> how do I PM again? :P
[16:48] <edbian> justchecking: /msg justchecking
[16:48] <edbian> justchecking: /msg justchecking hi
[16:49] <glda19> who use thunderbid 5.0 and ligthning 1.04b
[16:50] <_gambler> edbian: you were really helpful yesterday, i'm on my ubuntu powered laptop now! could you help me with a new problem?
[16:51] <edbian> _gambler: I can try.  I don't remember you.  (no offense)
[16:51] <alex____> hey ppls :P i wanna install essentials live 2011 in ubuntu :)
[16:52] <_gambler> edbian: name yesterday was gamblermc on my gf's mac. helped me with wireless problem
[16:52] <edbian> _gambler: Oh yeah.  We had to move everything using a USB stick.  What is the issue now?
[16:53] <_gambler> cd-rom isn't recognized by ubuntu.
[16:53] <alex____> is it possible or impossible?
[16:53] <edbian> _gambler: I'm not so good with this.  Is it the drive or the disc that's not recognized?
[16:53] <_gambler> edbian: this might be a hardware problem but i don't know how to check.
[16:53] <_gambler> the drive
[16:53] <IdleOne> alex____: I doubt it can be done but you can try with Wine. Again I doubt it will work
[16:53] <ocs> is it possible to create on ubuntu a keyboard shortcut in which the action is done when I press some keys in sequence and not simoultaneously ?
[16:53] <Mendax> is debian a better system than ubuntu?
[16:53] <Drammer> no
[16:54] <Drammer> Ubuntu is the Best
[16:54] <Drammer> : D
[16:54] <Mendax> ;)
[16:54] <alex____> mm ok
[16:54] <dyd> guys i can't understand why sound is not working... if i test the speakers i can hear the sound but nothing else works. any hint?
[16:54] <edbian> Mendax: yes :)
[16:54] <alex____> have someone made video calls with hotmail user on another way??
[16:54] <Drammer> dyd > i think your driver is not correctly installed
[16:54] <noah1989> hi
[16:54] <edbian> _gambler: I think it's a hardware error.  You can look in /dev   does it list any cd-rom or other type thigns in there?
[16:55] <edbian> _gambler: Best way to check is put the drive on another computer or run this computer with a different OS
[16:55] <dyd> Drammer: strange thing is that back to a week ago it worked, i just put some updates
[16:55] <yeats> Mendax: I think you'll get a biased opinion for Ubuntu in this channel, but it's fair to say that each project is very good and that they have different goals, etc.
[16:55] <noah1989> i want to run a virtual machine on a ubuntu host, with windows 7 as a guest
[16:55] <Drammer> use
[16:55] <BluesKaj> dyd, how are you testing the peakers ?
[16:55] <Drammer> Vmware Workstation
[16:55] <BluesKaj> speakers , dyd
[16:55] <alex____> i think no body -.-
[16:55] <dyd> BluesKaj: system -> preferences -> sound
[16:55] <alex____> ill try wine
[16:55] <Mendax> stupid question: when you are downloading debian do you have to download all of the images:http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.2.1/i386/bt-dvd/
[16:56] <noah1989> Drammer: is vmware workstation free (as in beer)?
[16:56] <dyd> BluesKaj: then hardware -> test speakers
[16:56] <IdleOne> Mendax: no and support for debian in #debian
[16:56] <Drammer> no
[16:56] <Drammer> vmware is a shareware
[16:56] <Drammer> but you can use it , u know it an old stuff everyone got it ripped
[16:56] <dyd> BluesKaj: jeez, i think i fixed it :D
[16:57] <BluesKaj> ok dyd open a terminal and try this : speaker-test -c2 -Ddefault -t wav
[16:57] <noah1989> drammer: hm.. i could create a machine using the trial version and then run it in vmware player (which is free as i recall)
[16:57] <maybe> hello all!
[16:57] <KM0201> BluesKaj: lol, thats awesome
[16:57] <dyd> BluesKaj: thanks for helping, now it works, it was on "output" the wrong sound output device.
[16:57] <Drammer> good idea
[16:58] <BluesKaj> dyd, if you had a player open , close it and open it again , then try to play some thing
[16:58] <KM0201> BluesKaj: that makes me realize i'm going deaf in my right ear.
[16:58] <_gambler> Itunes on ubuntu - easy way?
[16:58] <edbian> weee!!
[16:58] <edbian> front left
[16:58] <dyd> BluesKaj: it works now! all ok
[16:58] <edbian> front right..
[16:58] <maybe> guys, I have a question: I need to buy a pendrive, to install ubuntu on it. Any suggestions? Everyone will do, or should I be aware of something?
[16:58] <BluesKaj> dyd, good
[16:59] <KM0201> _gambler: do you ust want it to listen to music, or do you want itunes to sync an ipod.
[16:59] <KM0201> edbian: that voice is strangely attractive
[16:59] <KM0201> lol
[16:59] <edbian> maybe: It has to be big enough to hold Ubuntu (at least 1Gb).  And it shouldn't have any of that stupid fancy software they love to put on them nowadays
[16:59] <BluesKaj> KM0201, my left ear is the bad one here
[16:59] <KM0201> :)
[16:59] <_gambler> km0201: well i don't use the sync feature. so i suppose just to listen
[17:00] <KM0201> _gambler: then i would encourage you to look for a Linux Alternative... Rhythmbox, Banshee, Audacious,
[17:00] <alex____> i think it is impossible to make video calls with hotmail users from ubuntu :(
[17:00] <KM0201> alex____: no its not
[17:00] <_gambler> maybe: you can always format the drive before you place the installer on it.
[17:00] <KM0201> !info amsn | aleX-xx
[17:00] <noah1989> are there better options than vmware for virtualization? kvm looks great but as far as i can see it lacks a graphical console (which i would only need for installing, after that rdesktop would be fine)
[17:00] <KM0201> oops, alex____ see above
[17:00] <_gambler> km0201: that difficult?
[17:01] <edbian> noah1989: there is also xen and virtualbox
[17:01] <alex____> kkm0201 i got ams but it doesnt let me make videocalls
[17:01] <KM0201> _gambler: its not that its difficult, its just itunes can be very buggy in Wine... (not to mention, its bloated like crazy)... so find a linux native option...
[17:01] <alex____> amsn
[17:01] <Janusman> I have a 32bit install and planning to reinstall on 64bit. How do I know if all apps have 64 bit equivalents? Or will 32 bit versions run on a 64bit 11.04?
[17:01] <KM0201> alex____: hmm, i thought it did. i stand corrected
[17:01] <maybe> edbian: thanks. I'm thinking about 8gb, so...  Anyway, if I remember correctly, I read somewhere, that some work better then the others, so that's why I'm asking. I've been thinking about adata usb 805....
[17:02] <alex____> km0201 it has the option but it doesnt work
[17:02] <edbian> maybe: I have never known any to work better than any other.  IDK'
[17:02] <kopecito> Anybody know how to remove the "mail indicator" in unity?
[17:02] <sonotscrewed> tntc: i just want to say thank you. you prompted me to kill the dosfsck that was truncating files. i went back into testdisk in the boot sector recovery mode and then did Repair FAT and all my files showed up
[17:02] <_gambler> km0201: what would you suggest for a really easy interface. when i tried to use banshee it said the plugins might be illegal in the country -- not sure how to check if they are
[17:02] <KM0201> _gambler: are you trying to play mp3's?
[17:02] <noah1989> well.. i#m just gonna download vmare -.-
[17:02] <_gambler> m4a's actually.
[17:02] <_gambler> from apple.
[17:02] <Mendax> _gambler: use VLC
[17:02] <KM0201> _gambler: i think i would try either vlc, or audacious.
[17:02] <_gambler> not a bad idea. ill try that out
[17:03] <alex____> when i seted up the setings it said something about windows didt let use their servers again or something like that
[17:03] <maybe> ok thank you, guys!
[17:03] <tntc> sonotscrewed: you took a big risk there man XD I'm glad it worked out ok
[17:04] <tntc> sonotscrewed: but from a safety standpoint, you def want a second hard disk to copy that stuff to
[17:04] <plagerism> join #networking
[17:05] <pharma> bonjour comment on peut parler a une personne qu'on connait et qui est sur irc car mon copain est sur irc
[17:05] <pharma> et est de l iie
[17:05] <pharma> a evry et je le trouve pas
[17:05] <DJones> !fr | pharma
[17:05] <Drammer> pharma > sur quel serveur de IRC ? vous savez IRC c'est un system :D et non pas un chat
[17:05] <pharma> nn mon copain parle sur irc ac des gens de son ecole
[17:06] <IdleOne> Drammer: Please use English in here or /msg them if you want to help in French
[17:06] <pharma> ca peut etre les deux ^^ ?
[17:06] <Drammer> ok
[17:06] <Drammer> sorry
[17:06] <pharma> :)
[17:06] <Drammer> i did even forget myself lol
[17:06] <duvel> Grrr. Why doesn't sound work with flash now?!
[17:06] <IdleOne> pharma: svp utilise #ubuntu-fr on parle en prive avec Drammer
[17:06] <IdleOne> s/on/ou/
[17:07] <pharma> #ubuntu-fr
[17:07] <IdleOne> pharma: /j #ubuntu-fr
[17:08] <_gambler> how do i get vlc to use a playlist
[17:08] <Janusman> I have a 32bit install and planning to reinstall on 64bit. How do I know if all apps have 64 bit equivalents? Or will 32 bit versions run on a 64bit 11.04?
[17:09] <duvel> Janusman: Save yourself, and don't install 64-bit.
[17:09] <duvel> Janusman: I'm having nothing but issues.
[17:09] <edbian> Janusman: allt he apps do have 32 bit equivalents and 32 bit apps run on 64 bit
[17:09] <edbian> except 1
[17:09] <edbian> flash
[17:09] <edbian> but there is a solution for that?
[17:10] <Janusman> The usual culrpit, Flash.
[17:10] <_gambler> in vlc, i cant find my ipod in the media browser.. suggestions?
[17:10] <duvel> edbian: I wouldn't call it a solution. Flash SUCKS right now.
[17:11] <Rudolf_> Hi
[17:12] <Rudolf_> I wanted to know if pc suite is available for ubuntu?
[17:12] <Boricua> Hi. How can i troubleshoot the connection to the Ubuntu Software Center. Iḿ unable to even see software already installed?Only changed from DSl to cable internet.
[17:12] <Janusman> Anyone know if I should expect better performance from a dedicated partition vs. a WUBI install?
[17:13] <Rudolf_> I am new to linux
[17:13] <duvel> Janusman: I'll tell you right now, if you do 64-bit.. Definitely use chromium as your browser. It just made my ubuntu experience exponentially better.
[17:13] <wangz> irc.fraggr.com #fraggr
[17:14] <Janusman> duvel: vs. Firefox 5?
[17:14] <morth> ^
[17:14] <Janusman> Rudolf_: define "PC suite"?
[17:14] <duvel> Idk which version I have.. But chromium is awesome.
[17:14] <duvel> morth: you prefer firefox 5 to chromium ?
[17:15] <morth> duvel: haven't tried Chromium, only firefox5 i was also curious if chrom was better than FF5
[17:15] <Rudolf_> Pc suite= software used to connect mobile to pc for accessing net
[17:15] <duvel> I'll have to Download FF5 now.
[17:16] <Rudolf_> Like there is nokia pc suite for windows
[17:16] <morth> duvel: i have yet to try chromium but i may be biased because im a long term firefox user.
[17:17] <duvel> morth trust me, I hate chromium in Windows. I love firefox in windows. But firefox just plain sucks in liux.
[17:17] <duvel> linux*.
[17:17] <tntc> I dunno. I like Firefox fine, but I think Chrome is nicer. I also like that incognito doesn't close my other windows
[17:17] <Rudolf_> Anyone?
[17:17] <morth> duvel: so far, i have yet had a problem with FF5 in linux, so may just be you :s
[17:17] <duvel> I dont think i have FF5.
[17:17] <tntc> Rudolf_: I dunno of any for nokia-specific stuff, but depending on how it's exposed, it may be possible to conenct through another method.
[17:18] <edbian> duvel: Help -> About
[17:18] <tntc> Rudolf_: can you link to the software you mean on the windows side?
[17:19] <stephanmg> hey i updated today xorg-server-input-all and some other xorg stuff. when i play a movie then there are horizontal bars in fast scenes. what's this?
[17:19] <duvel> Ah, i was running 3.something
[17:19] <duvel> hahah
[17:19] <Rudolf_> Tntc, how do you guys connect your mobile to pc? What software you use?
[17:19] <tntc> Rudolf_: well, I use an Android phone, so I use wifi tethering. I also have an app called "EasyTether" for USB tethering.
[17:19] <_gambler> what is the command to get chrome
[17:19] <morth> duvel: haha that may be the issue
[17:19] <llutz> Rudolf_: or bluetooth DUN
[17:19] <duvel> morth :D
[17:19] <Rudolf_> Tntc, ya..tis called pc suite on windows
[17:20] <morth> _gambler: google chrome?, it sucks don't bother
[17:20] <ohir> Rudolf_: Gammu/Wammu i.e.
[17:20] <_gambler> does it? what's better than firefox?
[17:20] <trakinas> morning
[17:20] <tntc> Rudolf_: you're talking about so that you can use your phone for internet access on your laptop?
[17:20] <trakinas> question: is there any ubuntu version suited for asus eeepc 4g?
[17:20] <tntc> _gambler: I use chrome. I like it quite a bit.
[17:20] <Mendax> _gambler: download from google directly
[17:20] <Rudolf_> Yup
[17:21] <ohir> Rudolf_: though nokia recenly has been sold to microsoft and symbian was put to slow death...
[17:21] <morth> _gambler: they may "Like google chrome" but i LOVE firefox5 ;)
[17:21] <KM0201> !info chromium-browser | _gambler no need to download from google
[17:21] <tntc> Rudolf_: if your phone connects over bluetooth, blueman may be able to set up bluetooth dun for you.
[17:21] <Mendax> _gambler: i like both google chrome and firefox but i like chrome a bit better
[17:21] <tntc> Rudolf_: I'm not sure about cable-connected internet. That tends to be more complicated.
[17:22] <tntc> morth: I like firefox 5, but I like chrome better.
[17:22] <_gambler> i liked chrome on windows. but actually started to use firefox more before i got linux
[17:22] <Rudolf_> Hmm..k
[17:22] <_gambler> i still have both browsers on my windows 7 desktop
[17:22] <tntc> _gambler: I'd say screw it, install em both and see which one you like.
[17:22] <ogzy> i am searching for a way to restrict my software run only a specified hardware?
[17:22] <oCean> ogzy: how is that ubuntu related?
[17:23] <morth> _gambler: chrome was faster than firefox3.0 and maybe 4.0 but with firefox 5.0 im not 100% sure but i believe 5.0 is fastest Internet browser atm
[17:23] <morth> may be best to check benchmarks online.
[17:24] <ogzy> oCean: maybe an ubuntu based package let this happen
[17:24] <oCean> ogzy: no
[17:24] <Rudolf_> And what pdf reader should i use?
[17:24] <ogzy> oCean: becauce my software runs on Ubuntu 10.04 now also
[17:25] <Taftse> anyone have any experience with installing vmware tools on ubuntu 10.04 within vmware esx 3.5 update 5 ?
[17:25] <_gambler> i see.
[17:25] <oCean> ogzy: so? Your question is not an ubuntu issue. Try a programming channel maybe?
[17:25] <_gambler> i don't know firefox5 that well. i'm not too worried about benchmarks as long as its fast
[17:26] <Taftse> anyone ?? anyone have any experience with installing vmware tools on ubuntu 10.04 within vmware esx 3.5 update 5 ?
[17:26] <morth> _gambler: i may be biased because i've been using firefox for a long time, but i would strongly recommend using firefox 5.0
[17:26] <ogzy> oCean: ok
[17:26] <oCean> _gambler, morth: this channel is for support, not for general discussion. Continue in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like
[17:27] <athnam> Hi all. I just installed 11.04 0n an HP 2133. It works fine till the wireless engages. Then the entire system freezes. I have to hit the power button to turn it off. I know zilch about linux and command line. I just want to be able to use the computer with wireless.
[17:27] <_gambler> someone was saying theres a command to install chrome?
[17:27] <tntc> _gambler: there is for chromium. it's in the software repos.
[17:27] <guitar> hi all
[17:28] <KM0201> _gambler: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[17:28] <tntc> _gambler: or you can just go download full chrome from google, and it'll install a deb and a repo for updates
[17:28] <Muelli> hm athnam. I'm sorry for you. But I'd guess the first task to solve this mistery is to find out what Wireless Chip you have. So firing up a terimal (Ctrl+Alt+T) and hitting "sudo lshw -vvvv | tee /tmp/lshw"  would be a good start
[17:28] <Taftse> anyone able to help me ?
[17:28] <Muelli> !any | Taftse
[17:28] <Muelli> ah, darn
[17:28] <Muelli> !ask  | Taftse
[17:28] <Guest89222> taftse---i'm learning
[17:29]  * Taftse points up /\
[17:29] <Taftse> anyone have any experience with installing vmware tools on ubuntu 10.04 within vmware esx 3.5 update 5 ?
[17:29] <Guest89222> another dave...yah
[17:29] <Muelli> !anyone | Taftse
[17:29] <UbuBegin> how to cut out an image from a pdf file.. what ubuntu sw can acheive that ??
[17:30] <Guest89222> ping
[17:30] <Muelli> UbuBegin: evince, pdfedit, okular, ...
[17:30] <ikonia> Guest89222: what do you want ?
[17:30] <athnam> thanks, Muelli. I'll be back in a while after I try that. (You did see I know zilch about linux, right?)
[17:30] <Taftse> how do i  install vmware tools on ubuntu 10.04 within vmware esx 3.5 update 5 ?
[17:30] <Mendax> UbuBegin: Pdf mod i think
[17:30] <ikonia> Taftse: what does the documentation say do ?
[17:30] <DodgyDave> Hi, looking for some help. I'm installing DeVeDe (DVD authoring package). I get a message during installation saying I need to remove some librarys. Can anyone tell me how to do that ?
[17:30] <Taftse> sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[17:30] <KM0201> UbuBegin: i just done it w/ evince, no problem
[17:30] <ikonia> DodgyDave: what does it what to remove
[17:31] <Mendax> DodgyDave: try synaptic package manager
[17:31] <ikonia> Taftse: follow the install instructions
[17:31] <Taftse> but i cannot find any  /media/cdrom
[17:31] <Muelli> DodgyDave: well. first of all I'd file a bug against the program that you're trying to install for at least having non appropriate messages.
[17:31] <ikonia> Taftse: it gets created when you put the cdrom in
[17:31] <guitar> i am new to ubuntu, and i her alot about using the terminal...for what?
[17:31] <DodgyDave> wants to remove libav format, video processing librarys
[17:32] <Muelli> guitar: for everything :-) People do all sorts of stuff with it. I read my emails, others chat, then others browse the web, ...
[17:32] <ikonia> guitar: day to day use
[17:32] <Mendax> guitar: u can use it to get packages instead of using software-center
[17:32] <KM0201> guitar: for anything.. most GUI tools, are simply graphical fronts for terminal commands... ubuntu can technically run w/o a GUI, and run completely from command line
[17:32] <IdleOne> guitar: terminal is often times faster then waiting for a GUI package manager to load
[17:32] <Taftse> ok but within esx i can click the button install/upgrade vmware tools (which as far as i know should mount the drivers/package)
[17:32] <BluesKaj> DodgyDave, the install remove them , if you continue...you can also do, sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:32] <Muelli> DodgyDave: doesn't sound too good. But if you're up for it, you can try synaptic.
[17:32] <guitar> is there an idiots guide to getting started with the terminal?
[17:32] <ikonia> Taftse: ok ?
[17:32] <KM0201> !aptoncd > guitar i didn't forget
[17:33] <IdleOne> !cli | guitar
[17:33] <Taftse> now i cant find those drivers/packages
[17:33] <ikonia> guitar: there are quite a few generic guides on the net, however https://help.ubuntu.com is a good introduction to ubuntu in general
[17:33] <ikonia> Taftse: follow the install instructions
[17:33] <IdleOne> !manual > guitar
[17:34] <Taftse> i am again sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom does not wok as it cant find the media/cdrom
[17:34] <stephanmg> hey i changed display depth from 24 to 16 bit in xorg.conf -> now at reboot my display maanger to login won't pop up
[17:34] <ikonia> Taftse: you have to put the CD in
[17:34] <stephanmg> any suggestions?
[17:34] <IdleOne> Taftse: try /dev/sr0
[17:35] <DodgyDave> I am having all kinds of difficulty writing a dvd. Anyone recomend a good EASY package ?
[17:35] <sudokill> stephanmg, change it back to 16?
[17:35] <Muelli> stephanmg: reverse your change.
[17:35] <stephanmg> i did.
[17:35] <Taftse> i thought i did that by clicking  install/upgrade vmware tools
[17:35] <stephanmg> reboot and it does not pop up
[17:35] <ikonia> Taftse: no
[17:35] <Muelli> DodgyDave: brasero
[17:35] <Taftse> then what good is that button ?
[17:36] <Muelli> DodgyDave: or k3b
[17:36] <ikonia> Taftse: ask the guys who make vmware - the process is quite straight forward, you get the install package, from a cd, from the net, wherever, and you run the installer script
[17:36] <guitar> idleone...ikonia....there was a private message waiting for me when I got here?
[17:36] <ikonia> guitar: is that a question ?
[17:36] <guitar> Sorta...
[17:36] <IdleOne> guitar: I had the bot (ubottu) send you that info on the manual
[17:36] <guitar> oh...how
[17:36] <IdleOne> !bot
[17:36] <guitar> that's my question
[17:37] <DodgyDave> Muelli, I have brasero but it seems to just sit there during the conversion stage
[17:37] <athnam> Muelli, does"Hardware Lister B.02.15" mean anything to you?
[17:37] <DodgyDave> left it for 45 mins and it didn't move
[17:38] <Muelli> DodgyDave: then debug that. I would consider it unlikely that other tools will succeed if brasero doesn't. In fact, Brasero is just a nice GUI around lower level libraries which other programs use, too.
[17:38] <Muelli> athnam: no. not at all
[17:38] <BlueAlchemy17> hey all
[17:38] <BlueAlchemy17> got a tech question
[17:38] <athnam> Muelli, the thing you gave me came up with that answer.
[17:39] <guitar> another question...how secure is ubuntu?
[17:39] <DodgyDave> how do I debug it (bear in mind I am a ubuntu 'virgin')
[17:39] <ikonia> guitar: as secure as you make it
[17:39] <Muelli> athnam: have you executed the command in a terminal? And do you have a file at /tmp/lshw?
[17:39] <guitar> right...
[17:39] <UbuBegin> how to cut out an image from a pdf file.. what ubuntu sw can acheive that ??
[17:39] <tntc> guitar: how secure is it in relation to what?
[17:40] <guitar> well, while i'm here chatting, can someone be hacking into my pc?
[17:40] <athnam> Muelli, i did exactly what you typed.
[17:40] <Muelli> DodgyDave: yeah, well, try to start with brasero from a terminal and watch it's output
[17:40] <Muelli> UbuBegin: evince, pdfedit, okular, ...
[17:40] <tntc> guitar: yes, but that's true of any PC.
[17:40] <ikonia> guitar: depends how you've set it up
[17:40] <ikonia> guitar: I suggest reading https://help.ubuntu.com as an introduction to ubuntu
[17:40] <Muelli> athnam: nice. Do smth like "wgetpaste /tmp/lshw" or "pastebinit /tmp/lshw" and give us the link
[17:40] <guitar> any suggestions
[17:40] <ikonia> guitar: suggestions on what ?
[17:40] <guitar> i did puruse the manual
[17:40] <Muelli> guitar: a vanilla install is quite secure against remote attacs.
[17:41] <guitar> thanks muelli
[17:41] <tntc> guitar: don't make your password easy to guess, keep a firewall running, don't install software that you don't trust...
[17:41] <ikonia> guitar: you can't have done, it's got 100's of pages
[17:41] <tntc> guitar: there are generally the same precautions regardless of Distro or OS.
[17:41] <guitar> ikonia, it's 158 pages to be exact, counting the idex and glossery
[17:41] <UbuBegin> Muelli, roger that buddy
[17:41] <ikonia> guitar: ok - well, I still doubt you've read that
[17:42] <athnam> Muelli, oh, wait, there's more at the bottom: lspci -n grep 14e4....Is that what you need?
[17:42] <tntc> guitar: use ssh instead of telnet, use ssl encryption for VNC, don't give unauthorized persons access to your computer, etc. etc. etc.
[17:43] <guitar> thanks tntc
[17:43] <Muelli> athnam: we need the output of "sudo lswh -vvvv" and it's best if you put it in a pastebin. Hence the instructions for you to do "sudo lshw -vvvv > /tmp/lshw; pastebinit /tmp/lshw" That should yield a link which you can share with us
[17:43] <Boricua> Can't connect to the software center? but everthing else works fine. Only changed ISP from dsl to cable.
[17:43] <guitar> tntc, i'm not sure what ssh or ssl is
[17:43] <BlueAlchemy17> ahhh, soo much better
[17:43] <tntc> guitar: just remember: locks keep honest people honest. If someone really wants to get in to your computer, it is quite likely that they will find a way.
[17:43] <tntc> guitar: well, ssl is a type of encryption
[17:44] <athnam> Muelli, "No such file or directory"
[17:44] <guitar> you're right
[17:44] <guitar> about honesty
[17:44] <tntc> guitar: ssh allows you to access the command line interface of your system remotely.
[17:44] <ikonia> guitar: this is explained in the guide I've given you
[17:44] <guitar> and what is attractive about ubuntu is...
[17:44] <Muelli> athnam: did "sudo lshw -vvvv > /tmp/lshw" succeed?
[17:44] <ikonia> guitar: personal opinion - read the guide and make your mind up
[17:44] <guitar> the community
[17:45] <BlueAlchemy17> got a tech question
 anyway, DLoaded the .iso for Ubuntu 11.04 both 32 and 64
 tried both as liveCDs
 works up until I choose to run without installing (LiveCD mode)
 and then it goes black, I can hear it still running, just no display of anything
[17:45] <FloodBot1> BlueAlchemy17: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 I even hear it play the Ubuntu music when it finally boots into ubuntu, but again, no display
[17:45] <tntc> guitar: Free. Friendly. Awesome support. Ubuntu One. <3
[17:45] <athnam> Muelli, it just gave me what I showed you.
[17:45] <guitar> ikonia....sorry, i had not finished my remarks...let me rephase
[17:45] <Muelli> athnam: sorry, I don't believe that. You must have mistyped stuff.
[17:45] <guitar> what is attractive about ubuntu is the community
[17:46] <noway> guitar: indeed :)
[17:46] <tntc> guitar: Check out UbuntuOne too! OMG CLOUD FTW! XD
[17:46] <guitar> yesway
[17:47] <noway> anyone into SQL ? :)
[17:47] <guitar> that sense of community outweights the "perks" of other OS
[17:47] <noway> I really need to ask something :)
[17:47] <ikonia> noway: what's the real question ?
[17:47] <athnam> Muelli, I tried it again. It says no such file or directory.
[17:47] <BlueAlchemy17> can someone help me?
[17:47] <BlueAlchemy17> http://paste.ubuntu.com/638042/
[17:48] <tntc> guitar: well, Ubuntu has a lot of perks too.
[17:48] <i2iot> I want to delete images from image viewer using the delete key, is there a shortcut to do this?
[17:48] <guitar> i'm just a bit ovre whelmed with the transistion
[17:48] <Muelli> athnam: could you make a screenshot and share on yfrog.com or so, so that we can see what you actually tried to type?
[17:48] <tntc> guitar: what OS were you coming from?
[17:48] <guitar> tntc...Win of course
[17:48] <KM0201> BlueAlchemy17: i think you'll have to use nomodeset ... is this a laptop?
[17:48] <BlueAlchemy17> yes
[17:49] <KM0201> BlueAlchemy17: yeah, it's not turning on the backlight for the display... what graphics device does the laptop have?
[17:49] <BlueAlchemy17> but I've not had any problems with previous versions of ubuntu
[17:49] <tntc> guitar: is there anything in particular you're having trouble with?
[17:49] <KM0201> hmm, thats weird.
[17:49] <BlueAlchemy17> lemme check
[17:49] <guitar> i tried to do a dual install with ubuntu and ended up wiping out my xp, and i can't run my cd-roms for school
[17:49] <tntc> guitar: what's on the CD-roms?
[17:50] <tntc> guitar: you might want to check out wine, if they're executables.
[17:50] <guitar> interactive sound bytes
[17:50] <guitar> i did Wine, and it will not work
[17:50] <tntc> guitar: if it's more complex than that, you may want to consider installing VirtualBox (from Oracle), and installing your old copy of XP in there.
[17:50] <BlueAlchemy17> @KM0201: Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family Rev. 9 1308MB
[17:50] <athnam> Muelli, I'm really sorry to be such a pain. I'm using a different computer so I can connect to this channel on the internet, 'cause the HP can't connect. I don't know how to get a screen shot from that computer to this one.
[17:50] <KM0201> hmm
[17:50] <tntc> guitar: are they executable files, or just a weird audio/video format?
[17:50] <guitar> hey KM
[17:51] <Muelli> athnam: pendrive
[17:51] <KM0201> guitar: ?
[17:51] <i2iot> Image Viewer is like 100 times slower as windows photo viewer!
[17:51] <i2iot> Is there an alternative?
[17:51] <guitar> KM0201...how did you have a PM waiting on me when I got here?
[17:52] <athnam> Muelli, 'kay, I'm gonna go try that..brb
[17:52] <guitar> tntc...both
[17:52] <KM0201> guitar: i'm awesome..lol, (actually... i sent it a few minutes after you got here... remembered your question, and PM'd you the answer)
[17:52] <Muelli> i2iot: gazillions. Try "display"...
[17:52] <ikonia> guitar: the pm thing was explained to you by i2iot
[17:52] <ikonia> IdleOne:
[17:52] <guitar> oh...still impressed though
[17:52] <tntc> guitar: yuck. yeah, unfortunately software stuff like that is seriously incompatable. I'd just install VirtualBox, so you can run Windows inside a VM for those little bits
[17:53] <tntc> guitar: I had to do a course on Microsoft Office, which essentially required me to install XP and Office 2007.
[17:53] <KM0201> tntc: his computer isn't near powerful enough for that.
[17:53] <guitar> ikonia...there is a lot of splaining going on,
[17:53] <tntc> KM0201: what, guitar's?
[17:53] <BlueAlchemy17> KM0201: any thoughts yes?
[17:53] <guitar> i'm trying to just keep up
[17:53] <KM0201> tntc: yes, we discussed this the other day... he's barely got 1gig of ram.
[17:53] <tntc> oooh, blech
[17:54] <KM0201> tntc: don't remember his processor exactly, but i think it was a pentium 4... (which isn't a big deal, if he had plenty of RAM)
[17:54] <tntc> guitar: what's the company that makes the discs for your school?
[17:54] <tntc> like, what are they from?
[17:54] <IdleOne> guitar: if this channel is too busy for you you may want to try #ubuntu-beginners (much slower paced)
[17:54] <tntc> you may just need more stuff for wine.
[17:55] <IdleOne> guitar: at least until you learn the working of IRC
[17:55] <guitar> Idleone...no i mean understanding it all...like spending half the night reading the manual
[17:55] <tntc> guitar: meh, you get used to it, like all things :)
[17:55] <tntc> guitar: but yeah, who makes those discs?
[17:56] <guitar> tntc.  Pearson
[17:56] <guitar> i have to run flash 8 and win office 7
[17:56] <Taftse> office 2007 ?
[17:56] <guitar> yup
[17:56] <guitar> just to run the disk
[17:56] <tntc> guitar: oh, for the course? Ugh.
[17:57] <guitar> right
[17:57] <Taftse> grrr
[17:57] <tntc> guitar: yeah, I'd say upgrade your ram and use a VM.
[17:57] <guitar> KN0201 helped alot
[17:57] <guitar> this is my work pc
[17:57] <Taftse> i am a windows system admin for a few schools not fun
[17:57] <guitar> they let me use it for school too
[17:57] <guitar> i will beg for ram when i see the IT guy
[17:57] <tntc> guitar: yowza. work gave you 1GB of ram and a P4? What'd you do, shoot their dog?
[17:58] <dudeche> Quick one....running 10.04 -- want to run python 2.7.2...I can build my own....but was wondering if there was anything like rpmforge for LTS releases?
[17:58] <tntc> guitar: :) Seriously though, 2GB to 4GB should be plenty.
[17:58] <guitar> LOL
[17:58] <Taftse> you could also look at getting a remote hosted windows vm and just using remote desktop or the linux equivalent
[17:58] <tntc> Taftse: ooh! I hadn't thought of that. good idea.
[17:59] <Taftse> i would offer but don't have the server capabilities to host another vm
[17:59] <safetynet> This is an older version of Karmic 10.04 - On doing updates received following error: "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.15.4ubuntu2.1_i386.deb
[17:59] <safetynet>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.167 80]" How should I resolve this ? ?
[17:59] <ikonia> safetynet: use a repo that's not down
[17:59] <i2iot> Does anyone use an image viewer that you can use shortcuts for both "next image" and "delete"?
[18:00] <i2iot> I seriously don't want to have to use Windows for a decent image viewer
[18:00] <guitar> KM0201...the APTonCD is there a version for flash?
[18:00] <safetynet> ikonia: So which do you suggest, kinda new to this stuff....
[18:00] <i2iot> I've tried Image viewer, Gimp, and Gwenview
[18:00] <KM0201> flash?... what do you mean
[18:00] <ikonia> safetynet: can you pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a" please
[18:00] <i2iot> Shotwell also sucks
[18:00] <bo7amny> hi, is there a command line twitter client ? i tried a program could curl but it didn't work for me
[18:00] <Janusman> i2iot: I thought most viewers used cursor keys for prev/next and DEL for delete =)
[18:00] <mrdeb> i2iot: what is better
[18:00] <slaps> Do you want just a viewer or an editor i2iot ?
[18:01] <i2iot> That is exactly what I want
[18:01] <guitar> KM...besides being gimpy on the ram issue, this pc doesn't have a burner
[18:01] <i2iot> I sell on ebay and take a lot of pictures, i need to delete them as i cycle through
[18:01] <dudeche> no thoughts on rpmforge-like repos for LTS releases?
[18:01] <stealthboy> hi a am need some help with ati drivers and minecraft or java dont it lags help me
[18:01] <i2iot> But i'm having 2 problems: cycling only available in image viewer but lags like crazy
[18:01] <KM0201> guitar: oh... well, that could be an issue..
[18:01] <ikonia> dudeche: rpmforge is for redhat - not ubuntu, so it's not a valid question
[18:01] <guitar> the story of my...
[18:01] <i2iot> 2: No delete shortcut... im using a macbook pro though so maybe theres something i haven't learned about the keyboard yet
[18:02] <stealthboy> open source drivers this is
[18:02] <dudeche> I said rpmforge-like
[18:02] <Janusman> i2iot: I'm using eye of gnome (eog) and it has those.
[18:02] <graingert> !question | IO0139
[18:02] <tntc> i2iot: fn backspace/delete
[18:02] <ikonia> dudeche: what package do you want, as in ubuntu there is no need for rpmforge type repos as the official ones pretty much cover it
[18:02] <Slaytanic_> Slaytanic
[18:02] <i2iot> thank tntc!!!
[18:02] <dudeche> python 2.7.2
[18:02] <tntc> i2iot: :D no problem!
[18:02] <ikonia> dudeche: what version of ubuntu
[18:02] <slaps> Have you tried "GPicView" its light on the comp and actually works really good.
[18:02] <dudeche> 10.0.4
[18:02] <stealthboy> hi a am need some help with ati drivers and minecraft or java dont it lags help me open source drivers and ubuntu of couse
[18:02] <dudeche> 10.04
[18:03] <dudeche> I can build from source
[18:03] <eekTheCat> I tried to install gnome3 following the advice here: http://norman.hooper.name/blog/post/58/ubuntu-natty-narwhal-gnome-3/. But gnome-shell isn't showing up as an option on the login screen. any ideas?
[18:03] <tntc> i2iot: that drove me CRAZY :)
[18:03] <i2iot> Slap: I'm going to try it now
[18:03] <ikonia> dudeche: python 2.6 is critical to ubuntu 10.04 - changing/upgrading it is not advised, hence no package for it
[18:03] <dudeche> I want them installed in parallel
[18:03] <dudeche> wouldn't replace system reqs
[18:03] <stealthboy> hello is any one going to help me
[18:03] <ikonia> dudeche: then you'd need a custom package to change the location/version/deps
[18:03] <stealthboy> hi a am need some help with ati drivers and minecraft or java dont it lags help me open source drivers and ubuntu of couse
[18:04] <safetynet> Best site to use for Pasting is ? ?
[18:04] <Myrtti> stealthboy: please have patience
[18:04] <graingert> stealthboy, please don't spam
[18:04] <ikonia> safetynet: pastebin.ubuntu.com
[18:04] <SirVenom> Hello! I am trying to add another language to my system calendar, but I can't find the right file to edit. I had made some changes to /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/mx/DateTime/Locale.py, but it apparently isn't the file I'm looking for, since all dates seem to be given in an abbreviated format. Does anyone here know the file that I need to edit?
[18:04] <stealthboy> ok
[18:04] <safetynet> ikonia; Thanks
[18:04] <dudeche> yeah that's why I'm wondering if anyone has put together contrib like pkgs
[18:04] <ikonia> dudeche: no
[18:04] <dudeche> bummer -- guess I will wrap my own dpkgs
[18:04] <SirVenom> *All dates on my system, not in the file, are abbreviated
[18:04] <graingert> stealthboy, consider rephrasing your question in proper english - perhaps list some symptoms other than "it is all lags and that *crycry*"
[18:05] <stealthboy> minecraft runing in java using opensource ati drivers lags how do i fix that
[18:05] <graingert> stealthboy, eg consider not using open source drivers - using jockey-gtk
[18:05] <slaps> Any luck i2iot ?
[18:05] <lxs-makoto> hey. ive got my ubuntu box configured as a router. i'm no iptables guy, and ive been messing about for 30 minute now acomplishing nothing but enraging myself. can somebody point me in the right direction on how i can get stuff sent to 10.0.0.1:81 (on eth1) to be redirected to 192.168.1.1(on eth0) using iptables?
[18:05] <mrdeb> hmm
[18:05] <stealthboy> see i used them and my system was bad
[18:05] <safetynet> ikonia: Paste is here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/638053/
[18:06] <ikonia> safetynet: you're running ubuntu 9.10, not 10.04, 9.10 is end of life, hence why you can't see the repo
[18:06] <stealthboy> look are you going to help me or not i am in a rush to fix this then i can play with my mate
[18:06] <th0r> lxs-makoto: it wouldn't be iptables that does the forwarding, it would be route
[18:06] <safetynet> What is best site to use for temporary screenshot paste to use ? ?
[18:06] <mrdeb> ikonia: is 910 repo gone so you cant connet
[18:07] <ikonia> safetynet: with that attitude, no
[18:07] <ikonia> mrdeb: it has been moved to the old-releases
[18:07] <KM0201> !screenshot | safetynet
[18:07] <lxs-makoto> th0r: i sort of get it, how would i tell the packet forwarding to forward where i want it to go?
[18:07] <trakinas> safetynet: imageshack.us
[18:07] <duvel> Can anyone help me install Firefox 5 on my 10.04 LTS Install so that all users can access it? Like ... a global install perhaps? Thank you.
[18:08] <stealthboy> please graingert help me
[18:08] <graingert> stealthboy, no probably not - this is not a call center
[18:08] <KM0201> trakinas: doesn't imageshak require an account, etc.. imagebin, you just upload an image, and then give a link
[18:08] <ikonia> duvel: if you install the package, it is global
[18:08] <duvel> ikonia: FF5 isn't available in my packages apparently.
[18:08] <th0r> lxs-makoto: ok....you need to figure out what you want to do. If you want to forward everything from one address to another, I think you can do that with route. But if you want to do NAT you do that in iptables
[18:08] <ikonia> duvel: there you go then, there is your answer
[18:08] <stealthboy> i used jockey-gtk but my system broke in wine
[18:08] <Mendax> duvel: hope this helpshttp://www.johannes-eva.net/how-to-install-firefox-on-ubuntu-linux
[18:08] <trakinas> KM0201: I don't know if they now asks for an account. Is being a while since I last needed to upload any image.
[18:08] <stealthboy> i need to have open source drivers
[18:09] <safetynet> ikonia: I'll just have the folks I installed this version in Virtualbox use for the interim, so they do not get spyware on Windows - Thanks much for the help...
[18:09] <stealthboy> on
[18:09] <stealthboy> for minecraft
[18:09] <SirVenom> I'll rephrase my question: What files must be edited to alter the system calendar?
[18:09] <ikonia> Mendax: please don't give out those links to unsupported and incorrectly packages software
[18:09] <SirVenom> If anyone knows
[18:09] <trakinas> duvel: afaik, firefox for linux comes pre compiled. just download their package and run it.
[18:09] <ikonia> duvel: I strongly advise you to ignore that advice
[18:09] <duvel> thanks
[18:09] <iniesta> hi
[18:09] <i2iot> slaps: gpicview is pretty awesome
[18:09] <duvel> ikonia: I am following the website that Mendax gave me.
[18:09] <slaps> :>
[18:09] <i2iot> finally
[18:09] <iniesta> ive burn the iso to make live cd
[18:09] <ikonia> duvel: I strongly advise you not to do that
[18:09] <safetynet> ikonia; Didn't realize how old this version of Ubuntu was.... :(
[18:10] <duvel> ikonia: Really?
[18:10] <ikonia> duvel: yes
[18:10] <duvel> That website is no good?
[18:10] <duvel> :(
[18:10] <Mendax> ikonia: what's wrong with that link?
[18:10] <opt1mus> noob q: how can i check my xchat ip?
[18:10] <Ibyss> What's up with installing java on a ubuntu server being rather annoying to install?
[18:10] <trakinas> duvel: my advice is not good
[18:10] <Ibyss> opt1mus: /whois yourself   for real ip
[18:10] <ikonia> Mendax: it's an unpackaged tar file of a pre-compiled binary that can cause issues against the official installed/packaged version that's linked into gnome pretty explictly
[18:11] <opt1mus> cheers
[18:11] <shp> hi
[18:11] <shp> got no sound with tuxguitar :(
[18:11] <safetynet> trakinas; Forgot about that one - It's a good one as well, THanks
[18:11] <x-man> hi / iget an error when try install nvidia curent driver ubuntu 10.04.4 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/219/capturecranj.png/
[18:12] <ikonia> x-man: your dns is not working
[18:12] <Mendax> duvel: i literally just used those instructions to install it 5 minutes ago it is working fine
[18:12] <eekTheCat> how do I get gnome-shell to show up in the gdm login screen?
[18:12] <x-man> ikonia: what should i do?
[18:12] <Mendax> ikonia: whatever
[18:12] <ikonia> duvel: I very strongly advise you to disregard that website
[18:12] <ikonia> Mendax: if you don't understand the information you're giving out - it's best not to
[18:12] <ikonia> x-man: fix your dns issue, whatever it is
[18:13] <kulwik> siema
[18:13] <duvel> ikonia: Okay, thank you.
[18:13] <KM0201> Mendax: just because it works, doesn't mean its right.
[18:13] <x-man>  ikonia: how can i fix this?
[18:13] <ikonia> x-man: test it - can you resolve any websites
[18:13] <x-man> yes
[18:13] <mrdeb> is 9.10 still good to use
[18:13] <mrdeb> it seems good
[18:13] <ikonia> mrdeb: it's EOL
[18:14] <KM0201> mrdeb: no, its eol
[18:14] <ikonia> x-man: ok - so you know DNS is working, so then that archive is probably down
[18:14] <mrdeb> but i like the bootup logo
[18:14] <KM0201> !eol > mrdeb
[18:14] <x-man> oh no
[18:14] <ikonia> mrdeb: that's not a reason to use a distro - the bootup logo
[18:14]  * KM0201 agrees
[18:14] <x-man> im using ubuntu 10.04.2
[18:14] <janek_> hej
[18:15] <duvel> mrdeb: LOL. Are you joking ? The boot up logo? :D
[18:15] <duvel> That's awesome.
[18:16] <eekTheCat> should i just install another distro if I want to try gnome3
[18:16] <ikonia> eekTheCat: I would use one that supports it with official packages, yes
[18:16] <buzzy> hey guys
[18:17] <duvel> ikonia, Mendax: I actually just got Firefox 5 Installed via the repository. Donno why it wasn't working before. Did sudo apt-get upgrade and it installed Firefox 5. Works excellently. Thank you!
[18:17] <ikonia> duvel: that's better, well done
[18:17] <duvel> Thanks
[18:17] <buzzy> I can't install the 2.6.39.0 kernel. I followed the instructions provided here (http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-update-ubuntu-11-04-kernel-to-2-6-39-0/) but the kernel doesn not show up when I use the command "apt-cache showpkg linux-headers"
[18:17] <duvel> Wow. Flash also runs better in FF5. :D
[18:17] <ikonia> buzzy: why do you need that kernel ?
[18:18] <shp> why no sound on tuxguitar pls?
[18:18] <sysdoc> eekTheCat, I installed it from git so that it wouldn't mess with files or settings.
[18:18] <buzzy> because people with same laptop as mine (sony vaio S series) sugest me to use it
[18:18] <ikonia> buzzy: why ?
[18:18] <buzzy> in order to have better performance
[18:18] <lxs-makoto> hmm. i have an apache2 on 10.0.0.1, on my eth1. i can ping 192.168.1.1 (on 192.168.1.33 eth0), but apache2 cant proxy to it
[18:18] <buzzy> of the processor
[18:18] <ikonia> buzzy: I would ignore that, and use the supported kernel that comes with ubuntu 1.04
[18:18] <buzzy> it's not advisable to have it
[18:18] <buzzy> ?
[18:18] <ikonia> 11.04
[18:19] <quaisi> shp: does this help? http://tuxguitar.herac.com.ar/tgwiki/doku.php?id=doc:no_sound
[18:19] <buzzy> mm I see
[18:19] <ohir> buzzy: ubuntu developers will eventually give you 2.6.39 too. In suitable time.
[18:20] <buzzy> Ok, I understand
[18:20] <ohir> buzzy: unless you're linux guru you need not to fiddle with vanilla kernels
[18:20] <athnam> Muelli, will this work? http://yfrog.com/h80634p
[18:20] <axle3d> i prefer to get to a desktop environment via the terminal, so i removed gdm and use a xinit script to start gnome. When i used gdm, i could mount volumes and other *privileged activities, now i cant. my xinit looks like: ck-launch-session gnome-session?
[18:20] <buzzy> i'm no guru at all actually
[18:20] <buzzy> i'll follow the advice of you guys, who know best for sure
[18:20] <buzzy> thanks
[18:22] <ohir> buzzy: ubuntu parts, including kernel and kernel's modules, works in team. When you install your own kernel you also have to mind modules/hal/d-bus and many other things that need to sometimes be updated (compiled) for given kernel
[18:22] <ivan3> Hey guys, how do I make my laptop continue to work ( no shut down, no sleep ) when I close its... I dont know english word... lets say its monitor?
[18:22] <Northernen> ivan3, use power management.
[18:24] <rhin0> ivan3 within power settings -- system - preferences power management
[18:24] <ivan3> Thank you.
[18:24] <rhin0> select blank screen when laptop lid closed
[18:24] <shp> does not work quaisi
[18:25] <lowbudgetlaptops> hello
[18:25] <douglas> Hi There!
[18:25] <shp> guitar pro works better ...
[18:25] <Abhijit> hi
[18:26] <lowbudgetlaptops> whats up doug
[18:26] <douglas> nothing, just testing irssi
[18:27] <lowbudgetlaptops> whats that
[18:27] <douglas> irc client, for terminal (cli)
[18:27] <C1sM0> Hello everybody. Is it possible to send an encrypted email with RSA key? or do I need DSA Elgamal?
[18:28] <douglas> i think so
[18:28] <DodgyDave> Can anyone offer any help with Kino ?? Have installed it but when I try to capture video from my Panasonic DV cam I just get a black screen
[18:28] <lowbudgetlaptops> yeah where are you from
[18:29] <athnam> Muelli, I uploaded the screen shot: http://yfrog.com/h80634p
[18:32] <Biggamer11> hi
[18:33] <ranjan> hi how the cloud providers manage public ip, do they really give public ip to virtual machines
[18:33] <ikonia> ranjan: they can do
[18:33] <Muelli> athnam: sorry, was afk..
[18:33] <athnam> no prob
[18:33] <alexleon> yo ppl
[18:34] <oneliner> hello there, i have an issue where none of the compiz effects are beeing applied after a theme change,.. how can i debug compiz?
[18:34] <Muelli> athnam: uh, lshw seems to have changed *blush* could you just do a sudo lhw | pastebinit ?
[18:34] <alexleon> i try to make a video call from live messenger to emphaty and when i answer i get this message
[18:34] <alexleon> alex's software does not understand any of the video formats supported by your computer
[18:34] <alexleon> what is it
[18:35] <ikonia> alexleon: probably not supported
[18:35] <DodgyDave> can anyone help with a KINO issue ?
[18:35] <Muelli> alexleon: probably the software does not understand any of the video formats
[18:35] <Muelli> !any | DodgyDave
[18:35] <Muelli> !anyone | DodgyDave
[18:35] <alexleon> ikonia i can make videocalls to laptops but not to desktops :(
[18:35] <ikonia> alexleon: the laptop / desktop has no difference in the software
[18:35] <alexleon> muelli then what cani do?
[18:36] <Abhijit> oneliner, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1008755
[18:36] <Abhijit> oneliner, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1063605
[18:36] <Abhijit> oneliner, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264568
[18:36] <moonchild> hey guys, I have a question about fakeraid on an x58 chipset
[18:36] <ikonia> moonchild: don't use it
[18:36] <athnam> Muelli: the program 'pastebinit is not currently installed. You can install it by typing: ..."etc. Doing that now.
[18:36] <alexleon> ikonia but enphaty recognizes laptop's webcam but not desktop's webcams i have proven it
[18:37] <Muelli> athnam: good :)
[18:37] <mk> I see a package in package.ubuntu.com that I can't see in my package manager. Why can't I see it?
[18:37] <DodgyDave> When I start Kino and press the capture button, I just get a black screen. The red record button is not lit so I cant capture any video
[18:37] <ikonia> alexleon: then the desktop probably uses an unsupported webcam
[18:37] <ranjan> ikonia, do they provide public ip for each virtual machine?
[18:37] <alexleon> all desktops?
[18:37] <famicube64> Ubuntu Software Center doesn't show everything
[18:37] <Abhijit> mk, you may need to enable universe or multiverse repo
[18:37] <moonchild> I've been di**ing around with trying to do a win7 + ubuntu 10.10 co-install with the x58's fakeraid all weekend
[18:37] <ikonia> ranjan: depends on the provider and the terms of the agreement
[18:37] <ikonia> alexleon: all desktops ? as in all in the world ?
[18:37] <alexleon> cuz i tried with 3 diferent desktops nd 3 diferent webcams
[18:37] <ikonia> alexleon: you know desktops don't have a web cam installed by default don't you ?
[18:37] <ikonia> moonchild: unwise
[18:38] <alexleon> yeah
[18:38] <moonchild> ...and I'm missing something, because I think  the win7 installer & ubuntu are expecting different partition tables
[18:38] <alexleon> so i cant make videocalls with desktops like never?? :(
[18:38] <ikonia> moonchild: no, fakeraid has terrible support under linux, which is the most likley issue, it can't see the partition table
[18:38] <ikonia> alexleon: it's nothing to do with it being a desktop
[18:39] <moonchild> ikonia: the OS actually can
[18:39] <ikonia> moonchild: then what's your question ?
[18:39] <Muelli> alexleon: you can if you use appriopriate software, i.e. empathy with supported cameras (a lot of them actually).
[18:39] <alexleon> u ppl are smart fix it
[18:39] <ikonia> alexleon: no
[18:39] <ikonia> alexleon: what webcams are the desktops using ?
[18:39] <alexleon> so i should buy a cam
[18:39] <moonchild> a 'parted -l', after some complaining about a b0rked GPT partition table sees the array
[18:40] <moonchild> and an fdisk -l confirms it as well
[18:40] <athnam> Muelli: "Err http://us.archive....(etc) Could not resolve.... Failed to fetch....(etc.)  I think it needs the internet maybe?
[18:40] <alexleon> logitech
[18:40] <dekkard> Trying to run natty from USB on mylappy with gma 4500 graphics screen is black???
[18:40] <ranjan> ikonia, so what about amazon. do they have public ip for each of their virtual machines? do they purchase these much number of public ip's
[18:40] <ikonia> moonchild: what partition table is it using, ms dos or gpt ?
[18:40] <Muelli> athnam: it does indeed
[18:40] <ikonia> ranjan: ask amazon, that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[18:40] <ranjan> ikonia, ok
[18:40] <ikonia> alexleon: have you tested if the webcam is working ?
[18:41] <moonchild> ikonia: at this point, whatever win7 tried to do
[18:41] <Muelli> athnam: alternatively, do "sudo lshw > /tmp/lshm" and copy /tmp/lshw onto a pendrive and upload it
[18:41] <alexleon> yes
[18:41] <alexleon> one is a new logitech and the another one is an old one
[18:41] <moonchild> I'd like to find a command that lists the partition table type
[18:41] <alexleon> both work
[18:41] <ikonia> moonchild: I suspect that fact that it's complaining means it can't see the partition table on the meta device
[18:41] <ikonia> moonchild: fdisk -l will listed it
[18:41] <ikonia> alexleon: how are you testing them in ubuntu
[18:41] <dekkard> My maverick install is fine
[18:42] <alexleon> i use ubuntu on my laptop
[18:42] <moonchild> ok, let me hop boxes & check that
[18:42] <alexleon> nd my laptop cam works
[18:42] <ikonia> alexleon: how are you testing the web cam is working in ubuntu
[18:42] <moonchild> ikonia: mind if we take this to pm?
[18:42] <ikonia> moonchild: I don't see a reason to
[18:43] <moonchild> I'm not going to be watching my screen while checking & probably will miss your comments
[18:43] <moonchild> in any even, I'll brb
[18:43] <ikonia> moonchild: I won't talk to you until you return
[18:43] <alexleon> humm i try to make  videocalls from windows live messenger u want me to conect my webcam to my laptop with ubuntu?
[18:44] <Gerrin> where can i find drivers for the built in multi card reader on my desk top, its a compaq and im runnine 10.04
[18:44] <Muelli> Gerrin: you shouldn't need any
[18:45] <mk> I have the universe repo enabled, but I still can't see the package in the package manager. The package is http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/racket
[18:45] <athnam> Muelli: sorry, am I typing all that into terminal? I don't know how to make it copy to the pendrive?
[18:45] <Muelli> Gerrin: but the correct answer is: They are built in. Built into Linux
[18:45] <moonchild> ikonia: looks like fdisk is thoroughly confused
[18:45] <Muelli> athnam: use a file manager, i.e. nautilus
[18:45] <mk> can others see racket in their package manager?
[18:45] <inashdeen> hi, anyone knows any good software to lock keyboard on ubuntu
[18:45] <Gerrin> well its not reading any sdcards i put in it, the indicator light is coming on but the card is not showing up on the desktop or anywhere else
[18:45] <ikonia> moonchild: probably because it can't read the partition table due to the meta device not being supported, as fakeraid sucks
[18:45] <moonchild> I did a partx on /dev/mapper/isw*0
[18:46] <Abhijit> mk, not here in my lucid
[18:54] <Muelli> inashdeen: you mean smth like gnome-screensaver?
[18:54] <inashdeen> and anyone knows a software to send sms through the usb modem
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, have you seen my previos post?
[18:54] <moonchild> it complains about both a gpt table being present & only at the end of the drive
[18:54] <mk> if it's up on packages.ubuntu.com, shouldn't I see it in my manager?
[18:54] <inashdeen> Muelli : no, it is a keyboard lock while your screen is still on
[18:54] <Muelli> inashdeen: there is sms-manager (or so). But there is also a GNOME application for that.
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, duh
[18:54] <ikonia> moonchild: it can't read the partition table
[18:54] <mk> Abhijit: yeah, I just looked that up and made sure it was
[18:54] <chiofalo> ciao a tutti ho un problema, quando minimizzo una finestra non mi rimane l'icona sulla barra in basso per poterla riaprire e utilizzarla che faccio?
[18:54] <Muelli> inashdeen: how would you ever unlock the keyboard?
[18:54] <ikonia> !it | chiofalo
[18:54] <moonchild> I'm wondering if a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/isw* is in order?
[18:54] <dekkard> Is there a problem with nasty and gma 4500 graphics cards on laptops?
[18:54] <ikonia> moonchild: certainly not
[18:54] <mk> universe is enabled, but I still can't see it
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, so everything is checked and still you are not seeing the package? then may be the version of your ubuntu and the one the packeg is intended is for may be different
[18:54] <inashdeen> Muelli : well, based on experience in windows, you put the keyboard code. means, if let say u lock your keyboard, but if u press ctrl + alt + 89999 it will unlock ( just an example)
[18:54] <mk> Abhijit: how do I check that?
[18:54] <oCean> mk: are you using oneiric?
[18:54] <inashdeen> anyone else on the sms through usb modem?
[18:54] <Muelli> inashdeen: I am not aware of such a software.
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, give me the exact link of the web page you are seeing that package
[18:54] <mk> oCean: I don't know if I am
[18:54] <Muelli> inashdeen: I gave you two pointers already. follow them first
[18:54] <ikonia> inashdeen: you need a mobile network provider for that
[18:54] <mk> http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/racket
[18:54] <oCean> mk: you pasted a link to the oneiric repository before
[18:54] <oCean> mk: run lsb_release -a in a terminal
[18:54] <mk> what does that do?
[18:54] <Gerrin> multi card reader is showing as a drive on my computer, but not showing the sd card ive put in it, can anyone help?
[18:54] <Ibyss> What's up with installing java on a ubuntu server 11 being rather annoying to install?   The error messages say something about "No canidate". I tried to install "Openjdk" or something like that, and I'm still having problem installing java.
[18:54] <oCean> mk: shows you the version ubuntu you are using
[18:54] <Muelli> Gerrin: maybe you didn't put it in correctly...?
[18:54] <oCean> !info racket | mk
[18:54] <Gerrin> im not a dumbass lol
[18:54] <mk> 11.04 natty
[18:54] <pratz_>  hey guys i am using xchat-gnome , but when i join a channel and next time i start xchat, all the channal which i had joined previous are not available and i need to join them manually again, i.e i can not see them in the side panel , any ideas ??
[18:54] <Gerrin> its in correctly, which is the only way it will go in
[18:54] <oCean> oCean: as ubottu explained, that package is not available for natty
[18:54] <inashdeen> ikonia : the modem is with a network provider. here's the prob. i used prepaid internet sim card on my usb modem. so when i want to recharge, i need to send an empty sms let say to 555. so how do i do that, since in windows, u can do it through the modem manager thingy
[18:54] <mk> ok. so I have to wait until it's released for natty?
[18:54] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> pratz_: This has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, nope
[18:54] <Muelli> Gerrin: I'd remove the card, do a sudo dmesg -c, put the card it and do a sudo dmesg -c | pastebinit to debug
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, you can directly get it from thier original website
[18:54] <ikonia> inashdeen: the modem should provide linux software to do this
[18:54] <ikonia> inashdeen: if not contact the modem provider for it
[18:54] <mk> if I'd like to use the package manager, though?
[18:54] <mk> it's a matter of their updating the package?
[18:54] <oCean> mk: you cannot get it through repositories/packagemanger
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, then for officail package you need to wait. and for unofficial you can add ppa if its available
[18:54] <mOHawk> hello, i'm currently downloading 11.04 ubuntu 32 bit and want to know if it will run on a system of 1gb RAM? if there a any downsides to doing this?
[18:54] <sudokill> pratz, its in the network lsit options
[18:54] <mk> what is ppa?
[18:54] <Abhijit> !ppa | mk
[18:54] <ikonia> mOHawk: read the minimum and recommended requirements on the website
[18:54] <oCean> mk: third party repositories
[18:54] <inashdeen> ikonia : too bad they dont, when i when to the office that day, they dont even know what's a linux :9
[18:54] <mk> ok, thank you all
[18:54] <Abhijit> mk, welcome
[18:54] <ubun> ive been following instructions to install ffmpeg Ubuntuforums, but i get this error"ERROR: libx264 not found " any help please?
[18:55] <sudokill> anyway..
[18:55] <l0nwlf_> I'm installing Ubuntu 10.04.  In try ubuntu my mouse works and touchpad does not while when I installed it, neither works. My system is HP Elitebook 6930p.
[18:55] <manuel_> hello
[18:55] <sudokill> hi
[18:55] <cryoniccore> I installed ubuntu on my macbook pro but I cant get the audio to work. Any thoughts?
[18:55] <Muelli> l0nwlf_: that's weird. Is the system fully upgraded?
[18:55] <manuel_> I'm having problems with empathy, can somebody help me out?
[18:55] <skypc> SEX
[18:55] <sudokill> oh how rude
[18:55] <skypc> FR4FVR
[18:55] <Abhijit> !sound | cryoniccore
[18:55] <Muelli> cryoniccore: how do you know you can't get it to work?
[18:55] <arielpx> hi guys, i'll apreciate if someone help me with this: i've to make a new project on netbeans from existing sources, but the sources are on an ubuntu server machine on my network, I can access it perfectly on my machine, but on netbeans there is no way to open it, any idea about this?
[18:55] <skypc> GTGVG
[18:55] <skypc> RGG
[18:55] <skypc> ]
[18:55] <l0nwlf_> mk: I am doing a fresh install.
[18:55] <skypc> T
[18:55] <Muelli> !anyone | manuel_
[18:55] <l0nwlf_> Muelli: I did fresh install. So the system is not upgraded.
[18:56] <rudy__> Hi, I just wiped my home directory by accident and I need to re-copy the basic home directory.. i thought it was in like /etc or something but I can't find it.  where are the basic home directory scripts (with the syntax highlighting and stuff)
[18:56] <gmachine_24> Greeting Earthlings! I have a new comp; so far Win7 and a derivative of Ubuntu (Artist X) are installed on one hard drive; I am wanting to install a third OS and want to know if I can install that third OS, which will be Ubuntu's latest LTS, on a second internal hard drive without mucking up the works. Thanks.
[18:56] <Muelli> l0nwlf_: yeah, well. First of all, I'd file a bug. secondly, try to upgrade your system by firing up a Terminal (ctrl+alt+t) and do smth like "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[18:57] <stercor> I'm on 10.04.2LTS.  I can't find a Trash container.  How do I empty the trash?
[18:57] <arielpx> hi guys, i'll apreciate if someone help me with this: i've to make a new project on netbeans from existing sources, but the sources are on an ubuntu server machine on my network, I can access it perfectly on my machine, but on netbeans there is no way to open it, any idea about this?
[18:57] <gmachine_24> rudy_ well home is just /home/yourhomefoldername
[18:57] <Muelli> arielpx: how do you know you can't access it?
[18:57] <l0nwlf_> Muelli: let me try the same.  It is difficult to set wi-fi and everything only via keyboard.
[18:57] <rudy__> gmachine_24 there is nothing in my home, I'm talking about the RC scripts
[18:58] <Muelli> l0nwlf_: you should get a keyboard based mouse if you press, hm, ctrl+num lock I thinkg
[18:58] <sudokill> gmachine_24, you can install ubuntu on a second hdd yes
[18:58] <rudy__> the bash scripts that are usually included in ur home with a fresh install of ubuntu
[18:58] <sudokill> 3 os's though?
[18:58] <rudy__> i deleted them
[18:58] <sudokill> :s
[18:58] <rudy__> can i copy them from somewhere else
[18:58] <gmachine_24> rudy_ yes well I was wondering; my answer to your RC scripts ? is I don't know
[18:58] <gmachine_24> sudokill, thanks
[18:58] <Muelli> l0nwlf_: ctrl+shift+numlock
[18:58] <stercor> Would I create problems if I simply delete .local/share/Trash?
[18:58] <sudokill> no
[18:58] <rudy__> it should be in like /usr/share
[18:58] <oCean> rudy__: /etc/skel
[18:58] <rudy__> thank you very much oCean
[18:58] <Muelli> stercor: probably not.
[18:58] <sudokill> stercor, why do you want to delete trash folder?
[18:59] <sudokill> you can with no problems, bu why
[18:59] <stercor> sudokill: Because it's 30.8GB.
[18:59] <Ibyss> What's up with installing java on a ubuntu server 11 being rather annoying to install?   The error messages say something about "No canidate". I tried to install "Openjdk" or something like that, and I'm still having problem installing java.
[18:59] <sudokill> stercor, just delete the contents
[18:59] <manuel_> Hello
[18:59] <gmachine_24> stercor... what sudokill said
[18:59] <sudokill> stercor, it should clear every so often 30 days maybe idk
[18:59] <manuel_> I'm having some problems with empathy, can somebody help me out, please?
[18:59] <stercor> sudokill: Thanks!
[18:59] <Muelli> !anyone | manuel_
[19:00] <sudokill> stercor, or, just choose not to use trash and delete files directly
[19:00] <athnam> Muelli: I copied lshw onto pendrive. Where do I send it?
[19:00] <Muelli> athnam: pastebin.com or so. dpaste.com
[19:00] <o0_0o> !ping
[19:01] <bazzdee> hi
[19:01] <gmachine_24> which planet?
[19:01] <manuel_> ok, my problem (with empathy) is basically that I don't know why it doesn't load my accounts, sometimes they load and I can chat, but most of the times no.
[19:02] <manuel_> I don't know what to do, I believe with just clicking available, but nothing happens.
[19:02] <manuel_> I'm using (and intersted) in ICQ, msn & facebook
[19:03] <manuel_> can anyone help me out with my problem, please?
[19:04] <paolo_> Hi. I'm searching for an application which consists in a customizable grid of buttons, each one having its customizable icon and the possibility to add an action to each button. Something like that: http://people.easter-eggs.org/~valos/wmdrawer/  (which has many problems). Any idea?
[19:04] <Muelli> manuel_: I'd google for "debug empathy"
[19:04] <manuel_> thanks, I'll try it now
[19:05] <oCean> Muelli: please don't just refer to 'search google'
[19:05] <athnam> Muelli: wow! Is this what you need?  *-network DISABLED                 description: Wireless interface                 product: BCM4311 802.11a/b/g                 vendor: Broadcom Corporation                 physical id: 0                 bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0                 logical name: wlan0                 version: 02                 serial: 00:21:00:36:fb:4e                 width: 64 bits                 clock: 33MHz           
[19:05] <Muelli> athnam: yeah :) pretty much. Broadcom, hm. Not a good card to be used in Linux :-\
[19:06] <o0_0o> could someone recommend some 4port Ethernet cards? besides Sun's
[19:07] <Muelli> athnam: so you could now go off and research what the driver situation for BCM43xx is. It's probably not very good and you have to install some weird driver via the Terminal.
[19:08] <athnam> Muelli: can you point me in the right direction?
[19:08] <CodenameStrike> I accidentally bricked my GRUB on my 11.04 installation, I'm now trying to proceed without a LiveCD. At one point while following the Ubuntu GRUB Rescue guide I stumbled upon this problem: "error: symbol not found: 'grub_mm_base'"
[19:08] <Muelli> athnam: my browser is slow atm but having searched for "linux bcm4311" yielded quite a few well looking results.
[19:08] <CodenameStrike> How do I figure what to do next?
[19:09] <kalofoli> hi guys!! how can i upgrade from jaunty?
[19:09] <kalofoli> as painlessly as possible?
[19:09] <IdleOne> !upgrade
[19:09] <kalofoli> update manager does not support 10.04LTS
[19:09] <Muelli> athnam: a "lsmod" could be interesting, too. To check which driver you have loaded already
[19:09] <athnam> Muelli: thanks. I'll try that for while. I'll be back, I'm sure:)
[19:09] <oCean> kalofoli: I would say, backup and do a fresh install
[19:09] <gmachine_24> kalofoli: the only way I ever upgrade any more is to back up my data, and do a fresh install
[19:10] <kalofoli> oCean, not an poption
[19:10] <oCean> kalofoli: ?
[19:10] <kalofoli> oh...
[19:10] <gmachine_24> How can it not be an option?
[19:10] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> kalofoli: Go to /etc/apt/sources.list, and change everything that says 'jaunty' to 'natty'
[19:10] <Muelli> athnam: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless seems to be interesting...
[19:10] <CodenameStrike> kalofoli: You'll have to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10
[19:10] <kalofoli> MAREK_BENC_NetB, cool.. will it wiork?
[19:10] <CodenameStrike> and then from 9.10 to 10.04
[19:10] <kalofoli> ok
[19:10] <o0_0o> kalofoli: +1
[19:10] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> kalofoli: And then just apt-get dust-upgrade
[19:11] <kalofoli> ok, I am doing it on my own responsibility,
[19:11] <kalofoli> but what chances of success do i have with that? (jaunty->natty-> automatic update to 10.04 )
[19:11] <athnam> Muelli: You are awesome, and I REALLY appreciate your expertise.
[19:11] <kalofoli> dist-upgrade *
[19:11] <Muelli> athnam: glad I could help :)
[19:11] <stercor> \part
[19:12] <IdleOne> kalofoli: why don't you read the links ubottu sent you and do it the right way
[19:12] <Muelli> athnam: next time you see anybody having similar problems, you might be able to help that person :-)
[19:12] <Utopiah> should I rename /sbin/start-stop-daemon.REAL to /sbin/start-stop-daemon? and if so why wasn't it done during the install? (still lost with upstart and not being able to have lighttpd at boot)
[19:12] <kalofoli> i have about 5 mins availlable..
[19:12] <RJ_26JA> hi
[19:12] <IdleOne> kalofoli: then wait till you have more time
[19:12] <kalofoli> I need a package, desperately.
[19:12] <redashes> Just have to say that I love Ubuntu, I love how it is free, and I love how easy it is to use.  Thank you, whoever programmed it, as soon as I get some extra ca$h I will donate to the project.
[19:12] <athnam> Muelli: I'll do my best. I'm really new to ubuntu.
[19:12] <kalofoli> namely mercurial, and the repositories of jaunty are all dead
[19:12] <Phreak_> Anyone an IRCop in here?
[19:13] <Muelli> kalofoli: you can download from packages.ubuntu.com
[19:13] <stercor> Can I upgrade from 10.04.2LTS to 11.04 without reformatting partitions?
[19:13] <CodenameStrike> I accidentally bricked my GRUB on my 11.04 installation, I'm now trying to proceed without a LiveCD. At one point while following the Ubuntu GRUB Rescue guide I stumbled upon this problem: "error: symbol not found: 'grub_mm_base'"
[19:13] <CodenameStrike> Anyone?
[19:13] <Muelli> stercor: yes
[19:13] <oCean> kalofoli: please ignore MAREK_BENC_NetB's advice. That's not the way to upgrade
[19:13] <kalofoli> Muelli, so, no need to upgradE?
[19:13] <oneliner> Unity seems to miss accationally on some resets, how can i restart the "desktop"?
[19:13] <pcoder> Hi everyone, Can anyone tell me about Ubuntu Kiosk mode? How do I get it installed?
[19:13] <Polah> stercor: Yes, but you'll need to go to 10.10 first.
[19:13] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> oCean: It isn't?
[19:13] <Muelli> kalofoli: dunno what you want to achieve
[19:14] <kalofoli> Muelli, can I add this to my repos, at lest temporarilly?
[19:14] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> oCean: I do it all the time, and it works
[19:14] <oCean> MAREK_BENC_NetB: definitely not. You cannot jump that many releases
[19:14] <arielpx> Muelli: because there is no way to open it from netbeans
[19:14] <kalofoli> I need in the next 5 mins to habve mercurial and a list of other packages
[19:14] <kalofoli> that's all
[19:14] <Muelli> kalofoli: sorry, I didn't read your initial question hence I don't know what you want to do.
[19:14] <kalofoli> oh, I have jaunty
[19:14] <kalofoli> so, it seems I cannot aptitude install anything
[19:14] <oCean> kalofoli: did you read the link ubottu send you?
[19:14] <Phreak_> Anyone an IRCop in here?
[19:15] <oCean> Phreak_: try #ubuntu-ops if you need to talk to ubuntu ops
[19:15] <ikonia> Phreak_: what's the problem
[19:15] <Northernen> CodenameStrike, no access to LiveCD?
[19:15] <IdleOne> MAREK_BENC_NetB: WFM is the best way to help someone break their system.
[19:15] <ikonia> Phreak_: actually oCean's suggestion is better
[19:15] <Muelli> kalofoli: but generally speaking, you can mix and match packages from several releases, but it's dangerous and not recommended at all. You want to google "apt pinning" first, before you attempt to do any of that
[19:15] <Polah> kalofoli, I don't think the Jaunty repositories are even accessible any more.
[19:15] <kalofoli> Polah, they are not, that's why i can't install anything
[19:15] <oCean> kalofoli: did you read the link ubottu send you?
[19:15] <pcoder> Hello Please someone help me with Ubuntu kiosk mode ..
[19:15] <kalofoli> I have to upgrade, sometime, but right now all i need is 2 packages
[19:16] <Muelli> !anyone | pcoder
[19:16] <Muelli> kalofoli: just download the .debs and dpkg -i them...
[19:16] <kalofoli> oCean, no, i decided if i don't *have* to upgrade, i wont
[19:16] <CodenameStrike> Northernen: I don't have a live media ready, and am downloading the 11.04 ISO as I speak for a last resort. However I need to get this over preferably before I can even get started on that
[19:16] <Polah> kalofoli: Consider upgrading in that case. You'd be much more secure and actually be able to find up-to-date version of programs if you do so.
[19:16] <oCean> kalofoli: it's not only about upgrading
[19:16] <Muelli> kalofoli: fingers crossed that it won't break anything.
[19:16] <kalofoli> Muelli, how about the dependencies?
[19:16] <oCean> kalofoli: it explains where the !eol packages are
[19:16] <Muelli> kalofoli: it will complain if it doesn't have the necessary deps ;-)
[19:16] <kalofoli> Polah, i'd try to avoid it now
[19:16] <x32324f> hello, i have tried ping, fping, oping and they all have the flood interval very limited. i was used to test my server using a centos ping that worked great. any solutions ?
[19:16] <CodenameStrike> Northernen: to add, reformatting/reinstalling is not an option.
[19:16] <IdleOne> kalofoli: jaunty is EOL (End of life) you will not be able to install anything because those repos are closed. see /msg ubottu !eol
[19:17] <kalofoli>  /msg ubottu !eol
[19:17] <Polah> kalofoli: Upgrading would be the best option, I'd say.
[19:17] <GOMI> got a weird problem , when i finished downloading something and try to open it , it gives me an ERROR
[19:17] <pcoder> ubottu: I have seen people using Kiosk mode in Ubuntu and they get the option at the login time?? How do I get it enabled?
[19:17] <GOMI> could not display ......... the location is not a folder
[19:17] <Muelli> :D
[19:17] <pcoder> ubottu: really??
[19:17] <GOMI> what to do about it
[19:17] <kalofoli> so, its not like debian that we simply change the repos and do an upgrade?
[19:17] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> XDXD
[19:17] <pcoder> :(
[19:17] <Muelli> kalofoli: you could do that. But it's not recommended.
[19:18] <cryoniccore> ubuntu apparently thinks that my sound has to do with my video drivers? how do I change drivers for ubuntu for sound?
[19:18] <Muelli> kalofoli: in fact, that's what the ubuntu upgrade tool would do, but it does more stuff on top
[19:18] <kalofoli> Muelli, l see..
[19:18] <wildc4rd> evenin all!
[19:19] <Pard> Anyone know a neat way to delete all files of a certain type? Rhythmbox downloaded all my iPod music as .mp4 and now that I have Banshee it changed it all to .mp3 but didn't delete the .mp4 so I am stuck with both types of files in the folder.
[19:19] <IdleOne> kalofoli: it is not like debian. you can go from LTS to LTS but because you are using an EOL version there are other steps you need to take. see the info from ubottu
[19:19] <kalofoli> ok, I s/jaunty/natty -i /etc/apt/sources* and i installed my packages..
[19:19] <kalofoli> tomorrow I'm either installing fresh, or going to migrate to debian :) thanks guys!
[19:19] <IdleOne> kalofoli: if you are going to refuse to follow the proper advice I am going to remove you.
[19:20] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Ubuntu is booring!
[19:20] <agus_sintang> why?
[19:20] <Polah> Pard: rm *.mp4
[19:20] <kalofoli> oh, Muelli, if I do the upgrade the debian way, what are the chances something would go wrong?
[19:20] <oCean> MAREK_BENC_NetB: stay on topic please
[19:20] <Pard> Polah: Thank you. I knew there was something just couldn't recall what.
[19:20] <Polah> kalofoli: Impossible to say, do a backup first if you want.
[19:20] <Muelli> kalofoli: Well. Quite high, but I wouldn't expect any major damage. You probably won't have settings migrated or configuration leftovers that might screw you up. But that's rather easy to handle I'd say.
[19:20] <Polah> Pard: * is a wildcard for most things.
[19:21] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> You need to use these strange GUI apps that make the system bug and clunky, just to upgrade
[19:21] <oCean> Muelli: please don't suggest dangerous ways to upgrade. Or will you be here to guarantee a fix for all of the problems?
[19:22] <Polah> MAREK_BENC_NetB, no you don't. Install update-manager-core and use do-release-upgrade to upgrade from the command line
[19:22] <Pard> Just a question for my own knowledge. Why is it (in 11.04) that sometimes I have to go to tty7 to get to X and other times I have to go to tt8 to get to X?
[19:22] <bcessa> hi there, question, how can I run a md5 or shasum on the contents of a directory recursively?
[19:22] <michael_bklnny> Hi everyone, I'm running and Acer Aspire with an Intel Series 4 embedded graphics chip, and I've been stuck in low graphics mode since upgrading to Natty Narwhal.
[19:22] <Polah> Pard: I've noticed that too, usually when I shut down X and it restarts I believe. Don't know quite why it switches though.
[19:23] <TrevInc> michael_bklnny, are you using Unity or GNOME?
[19:23] <Pard> Polah: Thanks again
[19:23] <l0nwlf_> Muelli: It worked after I re-installed it.  Basically I was not formating the older partitions and was just installing over it. This time I checked "format", thats it.
[19:23] <trism> bcessa: find /path/to/directory -type f -exec md5sum "{}" \;
[19:23] <BernardV> Pard: if it's in multiple folders you can use find and pass it to rm, something like this: rm -rf `find ./ -type f -name *.mp4`
[19:23] <BernardV> where ./ states "every subfolder, including current"
[19:23] <Polah> Pard: I didn't really answer your questions, I just said that I've noticed it as well
[19:24] <michael_bklnny> TrevInc: Thanks for the reply. I don't think I've been given the option to use Unity since it can't detect my graphics settings. In low graphics mode it boots me into Gnome environment.
[19:24] <MagicJ> I have the standard weather applet installed in my panel - my closest site is Ft Collins CO, well, they have not updated since Friday - who do I report this to and how
[19:24] <trism> bcessa: and of course you can sub md5sum for sha256sum or whatever
[19:24] <michael_bklnny> my xorg.conf file is empty
[19:24] <bcessa> trism: thnx a lot
[19:24] <Pard> Polah: Gave me a place to start my investigation.
[19:24] <Polah> BernardV: Pard: That seems rather complicated. I believe rm -r *.mp4 would do the same thing, would it not?
[19:24] <Polah> Pard: Ah I see
[19:24] <michael_bklnny> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does nothing
[19:25] <TrevInc> michael_bklnny, I have the same problem. Good luck finding an answer, I haven't been able to either.
[19:25] <Pard> BernardV: Thanks. I was thinking CD /home/music rm *.mp4 or something should do it.
[19:25] <TrevInc> Sorry I can't help
[19:25] <japro> Hi, is there a known issue/fix for overheating with mobile i5 processors?
[19:25] <Ibyss> What does "apt-get clean" Do?
[19:25] <BernardV> Polah: It does if all files are in the same folder, but if you have sub folders like music/artist/album/file.mp4 the find method works fine :)
[19:25] <michael_bklnny> TrevInc well that makes me feel at least a little more sane...that I'm not the only one! :)
[19:25] <Polah> BernardV: The -r switch should recurse it into subdirectories, I thought?
[19:26] <andai> iPod Touch 2G, what software should I use to manage music?
[19:26] <Polah> BernardV: Just tested, found out it doesn't. Nevermind
[19:26] <japro> I upgraded my laptop from a i3 to a i5 an I think the fan control is not working properly.
[19:26] <cryoniccore> I am still having problems with my sound
[19:27] <BernardV> Polah: You could be right :P Never used it that way, haha!
[19:27] <Polah> BernardV: I'm wrong, it doesn't work that way. Seems like it should though D:
[19:27] <BernardV> Polah: Only for deleting a folder with all contents rm -Rf ...
[19:27] <manuel_> can anyone help me out with empathy? I just can't make it work
[19:28] <Polah> manuel_, more detail on your issue sure would be helpful
[19:28] <manuel_> I can't access my accounts in empathy (but I have once done it, so no missing packages)
[19:28] <manuel_> I click available and nothing happens...
[19:29] <manuel_> maybe updating will help, I'm running pinguy, and empathy 2.34
[19:29] <japro> does anyone here have a mobile first generation core-i cpu?
[19:29] <manuel_> hmm... it just worked, anyhow i want to know if there is anything to do to assure it will always works...
[19:30] <sudokill> japro, maybe its a bios setting
[19:30] <olafur> good afternoon
[19:30] <manuel_> anyone¿
[19:31] <japro> sudokill, well, for one thing there is not really much to "set" in the bios and it works flawlessly in windows
[19:31] <oneliner> unity question, the standard file |view | edit | etc options for a given program are not displaying on the main bar, any ideas?
[19:31] <olafur> does anyone know how to solve a printing problem?
[19:31] <speedrunnerG55> hi
[19:31] <cryoniccore> I have a cirrus logic CS4206 in my macbook pro and I can't get the sound to work. Can someone please help?
[19:31] <Polah> olafur: That would depend on what the problem is.
[19:31] <japro> i'm not sure if this is a knew  problem or if it existed before but didn't show because of the low tdp of te i3
[19:32] <speedrunnerG55> how can i add fonts to ubuntu so i can use them in gimp?
[19:32] <sudokill> japro, what is it? that your fan is at 100% all the time or something?
[19:32] <paolo_> is there a way to show the window name of the window that currently has focus?
[19:32] <olafur> Polah, the printer just doesnt print, I get the messages on the printers display that its printing from computer and then nothing happens
[19:32] <japro> basically when i run ubuntu i get no temperature readings whatsoever and the fan doesn't spin up even if the heat sink temperature suggests it should
[19:32] <japro> no, the exact opposite if you will
[19:32] <japro> I get severe throtteling issues when i run something like minecraft
[19:33] <sudokill> japro, did you change laptops? or the cpu itself
[19:33] <japro> cpu
[19:33] <olafur> the printer is on and connected, but i did not find the correct printer in the printers list for ubuntu
[19:33] <mman> how to copy files based on a year? i tried: ll |grep -e 2011|cp * /location/  but that copies all files, not the ones that grep gets
[19:33] <sudokill> japro, i know nothing about changing laptop cpu, maybe you didnt put it in properly or the heatsink, thermal ocmpiund or something?
[19:33] <Polah> japro: Do you have the sensors package installed. Also, if the fan control isn't in the BIOS then it's probably from a program, i.e. for Windows.
[19:33] <japro> the point is, it correctly spin up to full sped in windows and all temperatures are reasonable even under full load "games"
[19:33] <sudokill> ok
[19:34] <sudokill> japro, no idea
[19:34] <japro> lm-sensors finds no sensor whatsoever.
[19:34] <sudokill> doesnt on mine either
[19:34] <priest> hi! in vlc the sound is delayed when i'm watching mkv movies. any suggests?
[19:35] <mman> priest, i think you can shift the sound if im not wrong
[19:35] <japro> i found some threads in the forum suggesting that the 2.6-32 kernel doesn't support i5 fully and mentions turbo boost not working as well as the lack of temperature readings, which wouldn't be so bad
[19:36] <sudokill> japro, maybe, but that kernel is old
[19:36] <sudokill> is that what you use?
[19:36] <Pard> Such a newb question but... I'm in the terminal. I type "CD music" and it tells me the directory doesn't exist. I type "ls" and a list of the directories pop up and there is the music directory even though it says it isn't there when I try to change to it. My brain is so fried today.
[19:36] <sudokill> Pard, capital letters?
[19:36] <tsimpson> Pard: is it "music" or "Music"?
[19:36] <quaisi>   Pard: capital M on Music?
[19:36] <mman> Prad, use "cd" insted of CD
[19:36] <japro> yeah, I guess i have to upgrade from lucid then?
[19:36] <irmgard__> in #ucc
[19:36] <Polah> Pard: cd should be lowercase and make sure capitalisation is correct on the directory name
[19:37] <priest> mman, where can i shift the sound?
[19:37] <japro> that is the latest kernel apt-cache shows me
[19:37] <priest> *how
[19:37] <sudokill> japro, youd be beter off going for a newer kernel to minimise problems
[19:37] <Pard> I could slap myself so hard right now. thanks guys. Heat isn't good for my brain.
[19:37] <mman> priest, let me check, i know in mplayer you can, let me check on vlc
[19:37] <sudokill> priest, you shouldnt need to shift the sound, it should work properly thatd be a bad fix
[19:37] <Polah> japro: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[19:37] <sudokill> especially only for mkvs
[19:37] <mman> priest, what sudokill says is also true!!!
[19:38] <japro> 10.04 "lucid lynx"
[19:38] <priest> sudokill, in kmplayer the sound is good
[19:38] <sudokill> priest, i no longer use vlc but have a look in the audio options see if theres something you can tick / untick there that sounds like it might help
[19:38] <mman> how to copy files based on a year? i tried: ll |grep -e 2011|cp * /location/  but that copies all files, not the ones that grep gets. any idea?
[19:39] <japro> ok, now i feel stupid. after running apt-get update there is even 2.6-35 ... I assumed the update thingy would automatically go for that
[19:39] <sudokill> japro, afaik the update manager does do kernels
[19:39] <trakinas> mman: I think you will need to use xargs or something for that matter.
[19:40] <priest> sudokill, i've checked but nothing worked
[19:40] <japro> yeah, it installed the one i have now like 2 weeks ago
[19:40] <ohir> mman: either use find (man find) or use backticks to filter what you wanted'
[19:40] <trakinas> ubottu xargs | mman
[19:40] <olafur> is there a plugin for canon mp540?
[19:40] <ohir> mman: second needs more filtering though than you showed us
[19:41] <sudokill> priest, try resetting your config? type vlc --resrt-config in terminal see if it works
[19:41] <japro> apparently the generic package still defaults to 32
[19:41] <Pard> Pretty much giving up on installing twin in 11.04. Anyone know any other program that works like twin?
[19:41] <sudokill> --reset-config *
[19:42] <Polah> Pard: What is it and perhaps an alternate could be suggested.
[19:43] <Pard> Sorry. Twin (Text-Based WINdows is a window manager for terminal. Doesn't use X very handy for lowend PCs and when I just want to throw X out the window.
[19:43] <Wiallim> Bey,everybody. GOOD LUCK : )
[19:43] <japro> sudokill, uhm, what should i use that option with? i now just explicitly installed the 35-25 image
[19:43] <sudokill> japro, what option?
[19:43] <Polah> Pard: Sounds a lot like screen; comes with Ubuntu. Look up the man page for it.
[19:43] <Polah> !screen | Pard
[19:44] <japro> sorry, i thought that: "<sudokill> --reset-config *" was for me :)
[19:44] <sudokill> japro, no sorry :p
[19:44] <Pard> Must go try this out. Thanks.
[19:44] <japro> so rebooting. thx
[19:45] <sudokill> Pard, how old is your comp?
[19:45] <priest> sudokill, it still doesn't work, i think i will use kmplayer. thanks for your help
[19:45] <sudokill> priest, good idea
[19:45] <cryoniccore> ubuntu is not recognizing my audio card in my mac. Can someone help?
[19:45] <sudokill> i started to hate vlc too
[19:45] <Pard> Well this one is only a year old but the one I use twin on came with 95 from the store.
[19:45] <olafur> ok, does anyone know how to get bluetooth going?
[19:45] <mman> ohir,  i just need to filter all files that where created on 2011
[19:46] <Utopiah> is there an up to date tutorial on how Upstart is used on natty that I could use to make a lighttpd daemon conf file?
[19:46] <olafur> it just wont turn on, on my computer
[19:46] <cryoniccore> !sound
[19:46] <DasEi> Utopiah: still not done ?
[19:46] <moonchild> ikonia: still here?
[19:46] <Utopiah> DasEi: :(
[19:47] <ikonia> moonchild: yes
[19:47] <Utopiah> DasEi: I dont get it, I have /sbin/initctl.REAL  /sbin/start-stop-daemon.REAL thus empty -REAL equivalent, yet everything works well but /etc/rc.local get ignored, same for /etc/init.d/rc.local
[19:48] <moonchild> sorry, I was afk for a bit having a discussion with my father about his cancer
[19:48] <ikonia> moonchild: no problem, big topic,
[19:49] <moonchild> yeah, anyway, I'm doing a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/isw...
[19:49] <ikonia> moonchild: I advised against that, but "ok"
[19:49] <cryoniccore> whats the default root pass for ubuntu?
[19:49] <ikonia> cryoniccore: there isn't one
[19:49] <sudokill> none
[19:49] <moonchild> there's nothing on the three drives that I care about
[19:49] <sudokill> cryoniccore, you have to set one yourself
[19:50] <sudokill> cryoniccore, but ubuntu locks the root account so people dont log in as root
[19:50] <sudokill> use sudo -i
[19:50] <astraljava> sudokill: Please, no.
[19:50] <cryoniccore> sudokill, oh ok. How would I do that?
[19:50] <ikonia> astraljava: what's the problem ?
[19:50] <astraljava> !root
[19:50] <moonchild> I'm actually kicking myself for being as impatient as I've been to ^c it
[19:50] <ikonia> astraljava: his command is valid
[19:51] <sudokill> astraljava, no what?
[19:51] <ikonia> sudokill: nothing - sudo -i is fine
[19:51] <astraljava> ikonia: Oh, yeah. sudo -i is good, but please let's not advise people to set the root password.
[19:51] <ikonia> astraljava: he didn't
[19:51] <astraljava> [21:49] < sudokill> cryoniccore, you have to set one yourself
[19:51] <sudokill> nothing wrong with setting root password tbh, ubuntu is one of the only distros that locks root anyway
[19:52] <astraljava> ikonia: Do I read that wrong, then?
[19:52] <JoliPwnna> Erm My swap on my ubuntu machine is almost full
[19:52] <ikonia> astraljava: I think that's just working
[19:52] <ikonia> astraljava: "wording" sorry
[19:52] <JoliPwnna> i have 50mb free, anyway to free it? If it reaches full, everything freezes
[19:52] <astraljava> ikonia: Ok.
[19:52] <ikonia> JoliPwnna: if you're swapping out you are having ram problems,
[19:52] <ikonia> JoliPwnna: consider increasing your swap partition size
[19:52] <JoliPwnna> ikonia: it's 4GB
[19:52] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, find out whats using it
[19:53] <JoliPwnna> sudokill: how?
[19:53] <sudokill> if its stuff you need, then use a lighter de or distro maybe
[19:53] <sw0rdfish> hi, du -m will show me directory size right?
[19:53] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, top should tell you
[19:53] <sudokill> the %
[19:53] <JoliPwnna> sudokill: i doubt it. i don't have much open atm
[19:53] <sudokill> type top in the terminal
[19:54] <JoliPwnna> yeah
[19:54] <JoliPwnna> i'm in that already
[19:54] <sudokill> and it will tell you what programs are using what % ram
[19:54] <JoliPwnna> RAM is not full
[19:54] <JoliPwnna> ram is at 40%
[19:54] <JoliPwnna> 4GB
[19:54] <sudokill> ok
[19:54] <sudokill> i thought you had 50mb free
[19:54] <sudokill> my bad
[19:54] <JoliPwnna> but swap is also 4GB, only 47MB free.
[19:54] <JoliPwnna> if swap is full, i can't use my computer
[19:54] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, swap uses it
[19:54] <sudokill> dont worry about it its supposed to im pretty sure
[19:54] <sudokill> for cache
[19:55] <DasEi> Utopiah: had to look myself, it's still in init.d so a   /etc/init.d/lighttpd start  in /etc/rc.local should do, apart from possible permission issues (check syslog for that)
[19:55] <n-iCe> hi, how do I check if my graphic card is installed?
[19:55] <n-iCe> there was a command to check it out I forgot it
[19:55] <JoliPwnna> sudokill: if swap is used 100%. my interface freezes.
[19:55] <n-iCe> to see if 3D acceleration is ok, etc
[19:55] <JoliPwnna> and i have to either hardreset, or wait 20 minutes for the mouse to move.
[19:55] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, not sure why it would hit 100% if not all your ram is being used
[19:55] <cryoniccore> Does anybody know what the sound card is for macbook pro?
[19:56] <JoliPwnna> sudokill: i suspect a faulty program
[19:56] <JoliPwnna> but idk, i need to figure out what
[19:56] <sudokill> cryoniccore, google it i doubt theyre all the same cards in every macbook pro
[19:56] <DasEi> cryoniccore: lspci | grep vga could tell
[19:56] <Utopiah> DasEi: /etc/init.d/lighttpd start was the first thing I tried but since it calls initcl (rather than initctl.REAL) it returns "Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing."
[19:56] <JoliPwnna> now i have 61mb
[19:57] <JoliPwnna> after closing libreoffice
[19:57] <JoliPwnna> 95 after emesene closes
[19:57] <drake01> Please visit this forum post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11011445#post11011445
[19:57] <quicoju> I'm having problems to find the nbsmtp package for luicid lynx, any idea what's the name for that package ?
[19:58] <cryoniccore> DasEi, when i place that into terminal, Nothing happens
[19:58] <sudokill> cryonic try sudo lspci
[19:58] <shezri> android channel
[19:59] <cryoniccore> DasEi, Still nothing.
[19:59] <sudokill> cryoniccore, what macbook pro is it ill google it for you
[20:00] <cryoniccore> sudokill, Macbook pro 5-5
[20:00] <n-iCe> hi, how do I check if my graphic card is installed?
[20:00] <n-iCe> to see if 3D acceleration is ok, etc
[20:00] <cryoniccore> sudokill, 13inc
[20:00] <sudokill> cryoniccore, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1188849
[20:01] <DasEi> Utopiah: try sudo service lighttpd, last time I used it was maverick
[20:01] <vlt> n-iCe: lspci should tell you.
[20:01] <JoliPwnna> sudokill: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1557856/temporary/Screenshot-System%20Monitor.png
[20:01] <DasEi> Utopiah: try sudo service lighttpd start    , last time I used it was maverick
[20:02] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, not sure whats going on there
[20:02] <n-iCe> vlt: there is a command to check gxl or something and it responds: YES if is installed
[20:03] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, you could try something then reboot-
[20:03] <sudokill> gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[20:03] <JoliPwnna> sudokill: i had to reboot the last 2 times this happened
[20:03] <JoliPwnna> i could still use this
[20:03] <sudokill> and add this line to the end: vm_swappiness=10
[20:03] <JoliPwnna> but i need to figure out what's causing this
[20:04] <Utopiah> DasEi: same problem it also calls the non-REAL version so it does nothing
[20:04] <Utopiah> I tried it before too
[20:04] <wamicho> hey anybody knows how to solve this sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) from the upgrading
[20:05] <n-iCe> vlt: glxinfo | grep rendering :)
[20:06] <cryoniccore> as far as I am getting, there is barely no support  for macbook pro 5-5
[20:06] <multimedia1> teste
[20:06] <cryoniccore> on audio that is
[20:06] <pcoder> Hi, I have Ubuntu intsalled on my VirtualBox and I lost my password to the root user. I can't access the grub at boottime either .. :( Any suggestions how I could set my password again??
[20:06] <japro> hmm, well at least the "new" kernel works
[20:06] <sudokill> cryoniccore, from what i read its some alsa bug or something, try reading the last page
[20:06] <japro> but i stell don't get any core temperatures -.-
[20:07] <sudokill> japro, afaik lm sensors dont work on everything
[20:07] <oCean> pcoder: there is no root password
[20:07] <JoliPwnna> wtf
[20:07] <oCean> JoliPwnna: control the language please
[20:07] <JoliPwnna> using this script -> http://northernmost.org/blog/find-out-what-is-using-your-swap/
[20:07] <pcoder> oCean: Thanks for the reply, How do I login as root??
[20:07] <JoliPwnna> the maximum swap usage is only 40mb
[20:08] <JoliPwnna> and yet 3.7/3.8 is filled
[20:08] <oCean> pcoder: you cannot. Use your user login and use 'sudo' when performing administrative tasks
[20:08] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, has your system ever froze
[20:08] <JoliPwnna> sudokill: twice
[20:08] <JoliPwnna> when swap is full
[20:08] <JoliPwnna> everyday
[20:08] <japro> sudokill, are there any other things to try?
[20:08] <oCean> JoliPwnna: swap full or empty are you interpreting the numbers correctly?
[20:08] <pcoder> oCean: Sad. I forgot the passwd to my only user :(, any suggestions to look into??
[20:08] <sudokill> japro, not afaik, is your cpu still throttling with the new kernel?
[20:08] <oCean> !password | pcoder
[20:09] <JoliPwnna> oCean: lol. it stands for what a terrible failure. http://t.co/3nNwM1b
[20:09] <japro> i can't tell yet
[20:09] <oCean> JoliPwnna: I wasn't joking
[20:09] <japro> guess Ill have to play minecraft wil running pi or something :D
[20:09] <JoliPwnna> oCean: this is pretty conclusive http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1557856/temporary/Screenshot-System%20Monitor.png
[20:09] <DasEi> cryoniccore: hwinfo  | grep amd (nvidia, gma, ati, AMD)
[20:09] <sudokill> japro, wait and see how it goes
[20:09] <oCean> JoliPwnna: type in a terminal: free
[20:09] <JoliPwnna> yeah
[20:10] <JoliPwnna> 100mb free from swap
[20:10] <japro> i'm trying to find a program that can max 2 cores quickly
[20:10] <JoliPwnna> i've done this a million times. lol
[20:10] <japro> pi apparently only uses one thread
[20:10] <JoliPwnna> 100032, if you so which
[20:10] <JoliPwnna> wish*
[20:10] <JoliPwnna> >.>
[20:10] <sudokill> japro, mprime
[20:10] <sudokill> kernel compile or any program with -j3
[20:11] <cryoniccore> DasEi, sudo: hwinfo: command not found
[20:11] <DasEi> japro: cpuburn (carefull) use as many instances as you've got cores
[20:11] <sudokill> havent used pi on linux i think i remember windows lets you use multi cores
[20:11] <DasEi> cryoniccore: sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[20:11] <TDJACR> Is there a way to contact Canonical regarding a launchpad issue other than rt? I emailed RT a while ago (months) multiple times, and never got a response
[20:12] <DasEi> Utopiah: which distro are you using ?
[20:12] <oCean> TDJACR: I'm not sure it's the appropriate channel, but there is a #launchpad channel..
[20:12] <Utopiah> natty 11.04
[20:13] <JoliPwnna> any command to free swap?
[20:13] <JoliPwnna> that's not sudo reboot?
[20:13] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, i thought you were tyring to find out whats causing it, not to free it?
[20:13] <sudokill> JoliPwnna, if i was you id do vm_swappiness=10 or 0
[20:13] <JoliPwnna> sudokill: well, if i can't figure out what's causing it...
[20:13] <sudokill> that makes swap only use swap if it HAS to
[20:13] <rcmaehl> Can anyone recommend a good icon theme for ubuntu?
[20:13] <DasEi> Utopiah: I just installed and tried in lucid, service works here, ask again (just how to start), maybe #ubuntu-server, I will look up also
[20:14] <cryoniccore> DasEi, Ok I did it. Is there anything in particular u would like to know?
[20:14] <JoliPwnna> hm
[20:14] <oCean> sudokill: it's vm.swappiness
[20:14] <sudokill> i know i told him earlier
[20:14] <DasEi> cryoniccore: driver ?
[20:14] <oCean> sudokill: no vm-dot-swappiness, not underscore
[20:14] <sudokill> o yea
[20:14] <sudokill> lol
[20:15] <TSG>  I have a question, i have a few folders that appeared on my desktop that can be opened but not deleted or found in the file system. even in terminal it says the directory is not found..
[20:16] <japro> i just remembered that i have the intel stuff on the machine, so i'm trying to get linpack running for coolness factor :D
[20:16] <cryoniccore> DasEi, it says nvidia. But I thought that was my video. Not my audio?
[20:16] <sudokill> japro, or hotness
[20:16] <sudokill> :)
[20:16] <pcoder> oCean, ubottu: Thanks for your relevant help. Silly me, needed to keep on pressing SHIFT at the boot-time to get into grub :)
[20:16] <oCean> pcoder: right! :)
[20:19] <DasEi> cryoniccore: err, not the macuser with his graphics ?
[20:19] <TSG> its "Computer, "Trash", and "home"
[20:19] <TSG> even with gksudo nautilus and it says my desktop folder is empty in both root, and normal
[20:19] <TSG> anyone have any ideas? using natty (gnome-shell)
[20:19] <TDJACR> oCean: No response, thought I'd give this a try :P
[20:19] <Utopiah> (asking there)
[20:20] <DasEi> Utopiah: from what I see it's still upstart, so a sudo service lihttpd start should do
[20:20] <DasEi> !audio | cryoniccore
[20:22] <Utopiah> DasEi: yes it should but it doesn't http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=TJ6Y0Xw4
[20:22] <DasEi> cryoniccore: btw sudo hwinfo | grep Audio (I'm tired and be off soon, sry for messing )
[20:24] <DasEi> Utopiah: prefix with sudo, and it's not configured yet (but should start)
[20:25] <Utopiah> Im already root, I tried anyway and failed the same way
[20:26] <DasEi> Utopiah: right, long hostname, idk then and I'm tird, sry
[20:26] <DasEi> tired, lol
[20:26] <Utopiah> np, thanks for trying
[20:28] <update> i just downloaded swish-e for ubuntu from my terminal how do i locate what file it was downloaded to?
[20:28] <sudokill> whatever dir your in
[20:29] <sudokill> do you mean you used wget?
[20:29] <catphish> is it possible to forcefully remove a package without executing its scripts?
[20:30] <chasevoid> hi
[20:30] <update> how do i view recent downloads in terminal?
[20:30] <sudokill> press the up arrow
[20:30] <sudokill> to view recent commands you typed
[20:31] <digitalcrow> i've tested ubuntu today
[20:32] <cryoniccore> sudo: aptitude: command not found
[20:32] <cryoniccore> ???
[20:32] <sudokill> cryoniccore, why aptitude
[20:32] <cryoniccore> sudokill, sudo aptitude reinstall linux-headers-2.6.28-13-generic linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-13-generic
[20:32] <digitalcrow> and it was slow and applications were freezing all the time , specifically transmission always stuck when i tried to download torrents frozen stuck and nothing more!
[20:33] <digitalcrow> ubuntu is so heavy bloated and SLOW it sucks
[20:33] <sudokill> digitalcrow, unlucky
[20:33] <digitalcrow> and i have 4gb ram , 3++ghz dual core
[20:33] <cryoniccore> sudokill, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7627817&postcount=98
[20:33] <sudokill> let me guess windows tears on it
[20:33] <Utopiah> digitalcrow: I have 1Ghz and 0.5Ghz and its fast
[20:33] <oCean> digitalcrow: did you just came here to rant?
[20:33] <digitalcrow> yes
[20:33] <ajay> lol
[20:33] <stercor> digitalcrow: Why don't you switch to OpenBSD?
[20:34] <oCean> digitalcrow: please stop then
[20:34] <sudokill> cryoniccore, theyre for old kernel
[20:34] <Drammer> Net Bsd is the best
[20:34] <Drammer> or free BSD
[20:34] <barbarella> @update History maybe!!!
[20:34] <Drammer> OpenBsd is sucks
[20:34] <sudokill> bsd is slow
[20:34] <FloodBot1> Drammer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:34] <Scribbled2x> -Soreau dont suppose you might be around
[20:34] <stercor> Can the bot be programmed to catch the word suck?
[20:34] <digitalcrow> but i was in luck i have lubuntu installed now and everything is perfect
[20:35] <stercor> Actually, suck*
[20:35] <Drammer> lol
[20:35] <IdleOne> stercor: to what end?
[20:35]  * Drammer Slap FloodBot2 (Next time dont do it ok?)
[20:35] <barbarella> sudokill: and a little iphone ;-)
[20:36] <sudokill> :s
[20:36] <stercor> IdleOne: Because ``suck'' is a neologism used to cover fuzzy thinking.  Also, its origin is suspect.
[20:36] <oCean> Drammer: then don't flood
[20:36] <ChaseVoid> ...
[20:36] <Utopiah> but then people couldn't talk about http://suckless.org
[20:36] <IdleOne> !ot
[20:37] <Scribbled2x> I would like to build a project on a self contained CD - I would like it to run from a ramdisk and work in a similar fashion as the Sentry Firewall CD - only i do not want to use it as a firewall.  Is there a single howto that talks about what might be the best way to go about this?
[20:37] <stercor> Um...I'm sure a regex could be written...
[20:37] <Drammer> i dont flood im just fast in keyboard
[20:37] <stercor> Anyway, this enough on the subject...
[20:37] <wamicho> hey what is the meaning of this  sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:38] <wamicho> hey what is the meaning of this  sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:38] <stercor> Drammer: Count to 10 before hitting the Enter key>
[20:38] <japro> sudokill, seems ok, still no turbo boost though
[20:38] <sudokill> japro, no idea why turbo boost isnt working
[20:38] <sudokill> but at least it works good now :)
[20:38] <digitalcrow> come on people does anyone feels happy with the speed of ubuntu ?
[20:39] <oCean> digitalcrow: drop the discussion please
[20:39] <brian> #propel
[20:39] <digitalcrow> ubuntu is slow on my pc why is that ?
[20:39] <oCean> digitalcrow: last time. Stop
[20:39] <Drammer> which ubuntu you have ?
[20:39] <sudokill> digital i think its just an 11.04 thing
[20:39] <phux> digitalcrow: because your pc is slow
[20:39] <stercor> Utopiah: I visited the site.  It uses the word in the same sense.
[20:39] <wamicho> hey what is the meaning of this  sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:39] <sudokill> 11.04 is the slowest yet ive heard
[20:39] <oCean> stercor: drop it already and move on
[20:40] <sudokill> digitalcrow, but lxde will always be faster than a lot of des anyway
[20:40] <stercor> oCean: Yep.
[20:40] <sudokill> so you definately wont see any improvement
[20:40] <Drammer> what are you using SEDO ?
[20:41] <digitalcrow> my pc is slow? 3+ghz dual core intel with 4gbytes ram?
[20:41] <qin> Drammer: sedo?
[20:41] <sudokill> digitalcrow, your comp isnt slow
[20:41] <Drammer> i mean sudo lol
[20:41] <stercor> Does anyone know about/have experience with picokernels?
[20:41] <sudokill> just saying it might just feel slow compared to lxde
[20:42] <sparkiez> happy fourth everyone!
[20:42] <digitalcrow> nope , apps freezes (gray colored ) and then stops
[20:42] <Drammer> sudo dpkg -P kdm-kde4
[20:42] <qin> Drammer: Mostly to run programs form /sbin/ and /usr/sbin/
[20:42] <digitalcrow> transmission stop downloading freezes completely Forever
[20:42] <digitalcrow> firefox too
[20:42] <oCean> !who | Drammer
[20:42] <phux> ive got 2ghz intel dual, 2gig ram notebook for about 400$ and 11.04 runs just normally fast... im using arch+wmii and there is no big difference
[20:42] <sudokill> digitalcrow, no idea, could be anything, but thats not normal so i wouldnt blame it on ubuntu
[20:42] <phux> @ digitalcrow
[20:42] <wamicho> hey what is the meaning of this  "sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) "  i keep on getting it when i try to install or update my box
[20:43] <digitalcrow> then maybe its a problem of the disk? cause the disk access seems very slow on ubuntu
[20:43] <sudokill> i doubt it
[20:43] <sudokill> is it a fresh clean install?
[20:43] <astraljava> wamicho: Some package fails to install. Could you please be more elaborate? pastebin what you are doing, it's totally impossible to tell without knowing what's going on.
[20:44] <digitalcrow> when you click the firefox icon on the unity dock how much time it takes to open ?
[20:44] <sudokill> i dont use ff
[20:44] <sudokill> but when i did, half a second
[20:44] <japro> sudokill, ok apparently the freq readings in cpuinfo are not correct when it comes to turbo boost
[20:44] <digitalcrow> really?
[20:44] <phux> digitalcrow: not 1 second
[20:44] <sudokill> digitalcrow, try it in classic mode a lot of people report it being much much faster
[20:44] <phux> but this depends on plugins
[20:44] <japro> also linpack is obviously a bad example to test turbo boost when you compile it as mpi version (full load on all cores)
[20:45] <sudokill> japro, yea turbo only works for maxing 1 core
[20:45] <barbarella> @wamicho listen to astraljava to short...we need more than that
[20:45] <lacrymology> is there anything special I need to do to config postgresql in ubuntu?
[20:45] <sudokill> japro, i turned turbo off but only because i oc
[20:45] <japro> just ran a single core bench and ended up with ~13 gflops single precision
[20:45] <japro> which is pretty much exactely the expected 4sse floats * 3.33ghz
[20:46] <wamicho> astraljava:  i was upgrading the box then there was this git update which did't install then when tried to update via terminal i saw that error
[20:47] <kion> I am experiencing random gmd crashes and it takes me back to the login screen, I don't see anything that catches my attention on the logs, how do I make xorg log at debug level?
[20:47] <sky911> !help
[20:48] <sky911> hy semua
[20:48] <Roasted> can someone call attention to my name please? trying to test something out
[20:48] <sudokill> Roasted,
[20:48] <wamicho> astraljava: it said /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: 12: dpkg-maintscript-helper: not found
[20:48] <wamicho> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/git_1%3a1.7.4.1-3~ppa1~lucid3_i386.deb (--unpack):
[20:48] <Roasted> sudokill, thanks. just playing with notifications in gnome shell.
[20:48] <sudokill> ok
[20:49] <wamicho> astraljava: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:50] <astraljava> wamicho: Okay, so you're using git from a PPA. They are sometimes less than stellar. In what state is your machine in now?
[20:50] <rmyeid> Hi, can someone help me to switch the orientation of my screen from horizontal to vertical ?
[20:50] <olafur> does someone know how to get bluetooth going?
[20:50] <olafur> it wont turn on
[20:51] <barbarella> @wamicho i really like to see your sources.list
[20:51] <Drammer> why
[20:51] <olafur> please, someone who knows how to get my bluetooth going
[20:53] <kion> Olafur have yout tried System > Prefrences > Bluetooth ?
[20:53] <kion> and manage it from there?
[20:54] <olafur> I have tried, it only worked the first time i used the computer
[20:54] <sudokill> thats a good sign
[20:54] <sudokill> at least you know it works
[20:54] <olafur> i turned it off, and havent been able to turn it on again
[20:54] <olafur> :p
[20:54] <wamicho> astraljava: it is working normal except it wont upgrade or install anything
[20:55] <sudokill> olafur, its not a netbook with one of those funny key combos is it?
[20:55] <dau_> olafur, do you have a windows-linux dualboot system? then activate it in windows
[20:56] <olafur> i only have ubuntu on this computer, its an old laptop
[20:56] <murderertoy> hello! i have a problem :) i must reinstall the GRUB or something like this and i need suggests
[20:56] <sudokill> murderertoy, how come?
[20:56] <barbarella> @wamicho pastebin please
[20:57] <murderertoy> i have 3 parts, w7, data and ubuntu11
[20:57] <wamicho> barbarella: ok
[20:57] <murderertoy> i was resizing from windows my system
[20:57] <sudokill> murderertoy, yes, and what one boots?
[20:57] <olafur> the bluetooth just wont turn on,,, its annoying :P
[20:57] <murderertoy> and in some step i did something wrong and now not recognise the w7...
[20:57] <rmyeid> can someone help me with my screen ?
[20:58] <guitar_dave> sup auspicious panel of intellectuals?
[20:58] <barbarella> @rmyeid just ask your question
[20:58] <murderertoy> and i want to uninstall and reinstall grub for repair the w7 part, and the others
[20:58] <sudokill> murderertoy, does ubuntu boot?
[20:58] <murderertoy> yes
[20:59] <murderertoy> is this one
[20:59] <rmyeid> barbarella: I want to change the screen orientation, I have 2 screens on ubuntu 10.04 and have nvidia installed
[20:59] <sudokill> ok, is windows 7 in grub?
[20:59] <murderertoy> yes
[20:59] <guitar_dave> for anybody...can ubuntu studio be ran via a flash drive?
[21:00] <sudokill> and what happens when you go to boot win7?
[21:00] <sudokill> guitar_dave, most things can
[21:00] <sudokill> im guessing yes
[21:00] <olafur> could the bluetooth driver be broken?
[21:00] <murderertoy> mmm something like boot error, i can check if you want :D
[21:00] <kion> rmyeid do you have the nvidia drivers installed?
[21:01] <VCoolio> guitar_dave: probably, use unetbootin to write the iso to the drive, then boot ik
[21:01] <rmyeid> kion: yes
[21:01] <guitar_dave> cool
[21:01] <guitar_dave> thanks
[21:01] <TSG> im out of ideas. this is annoying
[21:02] <TSG> there is "ghost folders" on my desktop with no directories
[21:02] <kion> i guess from System> Administration > Nvidia X server Settings
[21:02] <TSG> and i cant get rid of them
[21:02] <guitar_dave> VCoolie...where do i get the studio iso?
[21:02] <sudokill> TSG, dont you mean you have no home folder?
[21:02] <sudokill> i dont get it
[21:02] <VCoolio> guitar_dave: look what google gave me: http://ubuntustudio.org/downloads
[21:02] <guitar_dave> thanks
[21:03] <TSG> sudokill, i have a home folder on my desktop which leads into the real homefolder (like a shortcut) but when i browse my desktop directory nothing is there at all
[21:03] <murderertoy> sudokill, do you have an answer :)
[21:03] <murderertoy> ?
[21:03] <TSG> sudokill, same with trash and computer
[21:03] <guitar_dave> another query...when i ran the 8 gig flash boot, it only said i 1.8 gigs left on the drive...is that rights?
[21:03] <kion> what orientation do you want your screen?
[21:03] <guitar_dave> *right*
[21:04] <sudokill> murderertoy, hmm, not really i dont dual boot but afaik if windows 7 is ok grub should boot it for you..
[21:04] <rmyeid> kion: I switched the screen to be in vertical position.
[21:04] <murderertoy> but... you know what's the way for uninstall and reinstall grub?
[21:04] <murderertoy> what are the comands?
[21:04] <sudokill> try sudo update-grub
[21:04] <sudokill> try that first
[21:04] <murderertoy> cause on the net i don't find it...
[21:04] <murderertoy> ok :)
[21:05] <Amadiro> Good evening. I'm trying to build wine, and its configure script tells me that X 32 bit dev libraries are required. I've tried to install the ia32-lib package, but that doesn't seem to be it. Does anybody have any idea which packages I might need?
[21:05] <guitar_dave> VCoolio, another query...when i ran the 8 gig flash boot, it only said i 1.8 gigs left on the drive...is that right?
[21:07] <sudokill> guitar_dave, if its a livecd it should only take up ~700mb
[21:07] <sudokill> a dvd sounds sort of right
[21:07] <VCoolio> guitar_dave: I don't know, could be, doesn't really matter; also, what I said earlier was to get livecd on usb, if you want to install to usb drive and have that portable installation, check http://tinyurl.com/2denkww
[21:07] <thegladiator> arista is not working properly on ubuntu an help ? it seems like the source repo is not good
[21:08] <om26er> thegladiator, using which version of Ubunut?
[21:08] <om26er> *ubuntu
[21:08] <thegladiator> natty
[21:08]  * om26er is typing in the dark :D
[21:08] <kion> rmyeid:  not shure.... maybe in Nvidia X server Settings inside X Server Display Configuration  on the X screen tab try the Metamode button...
[21:08] <jeremy77> who wants to help me with a broadcom wireless driver in ubuntu 11.04 ? ?  here is what I got so far from this forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747147   it looks like maybe ubuntu is trying to use wrong driver after restarting but may start working before you restart.  I dont know how to blacklist other drivers and hardware manager wont see it on 11.04
[21:08] <wamicho> barbarella:  http://pastebin.com/JXbBRCdb
[21:09] <thegladiator> it gives some gstreamer error
[21:09] <om26er> thegladiator, i have see the issue in oneiric seems to work just fine in Natty for me, just converted a video with it
[21:09] <wamicho> astraljava:  or what state did you mean ?
[21:09] <om26er> thegladiator, aha you need to install codecs
[21:09] <om26er> thegladiator, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:09] <thegladiator> How to install codecs ? I am wtching movies etc
[21:09] <guitar_dave> VCoolio...thanks....i'll try that now
[21:10] <guitar_dave> bbl
[21:10] <Maxx640> hello all
[21:10] <io> anyone to suggest alternatives to webmin?
[21:10] <thegladiator> looks like you are right thanks om26er  , is oneiric good ?
[21:11] <om26er> thegladiator, too buggy :)
[21:11] <Maxx640> can someone tell me if there is a terminal command to make a program launch automatically on startup of desktop?
[21:11] <thegladiator> ah this one seems highly rated
[21:11] <guntbert> io: not really :-(
[21:11] <io> guntbert: ok it was curiosity that's all
[21:11] <thegladiator> Maxx640, check your default user setting
[21:12] <wamicho> barbarella:  hey did you see it ?
[21:12] <sudokill> Maxx640, yes just add the command to startup apps
[21:12] <guntbert> io: :)
[21:12] <digitalcrow> anyone knows if i can use my hybrid afatech usb tvtuner or ....
[21:12] <digitalcrow> ...my pinnacle pctv hybrid tuner for analog and digital tv?
[21:15] <guitar_dave> VCoolio...which one do i choose, and do i install in on the USB like i did ubuntu to boot from the USB?
[21:15] <VCoolio> Maxx640: cp /usr/share/applications/<yourapp>.desktop ~/.config/autostart  #<< would do it I think
[21:16] <VCoolio> guitar_dave: if you need a livecd, then unetbootin; if you want an installation you can carry around, with ability to store docs and save stuff, follow second link
[21:16] <guitar_dave> ok..thanks...will try that now
[21:16] <VCoolio> guitar_dave: to boot like a livecd, just write the iso to the drive using unetbootin, easy enough
[21:17] <timothee> hello all
[21:17] <timothee> il y a des francais dans le coin ?
[21:17] <sudokill> hi
[21:18] <sudokill> the french in the coin?
[21:18] <rww> !fr | timothee
[21:18] <Maxx640> ici$
[21:18] <timothee> ubottu talk me ^^
[21:22] <dee27> whats the sense of encoding to hd quality
[21:22] <dee27> if is not going to play hd quality on the pc??
[21:22] <sudokill> ?
[21:22] <rww> dee27: not much
[21:22] <Maxx640> in the add command of startup menu, vvhat do I put in the command box?
[21:23] <sudokill> whatever command you want
[21:23] <jeremy77> what would cause ubuntu to use correct bcm4318 driver and then after a restart it loads the wrong one ?  and how would you blacklist the ones you dont want it to run?   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747147   im dumn at this and need some help.
[21:23] <sudokill> Maxx640, what do you want to run?
[21:23] <bsmith093> im trying to setup filezilla to use a socks5 proxy but its going horribly, any suggestions?
[21:23] <Maxx640> a program in replacement of the default sound manager: alsa-tray
[21:24] <dee27> not much
[21:24] <dee27> and why is that?
[21:24] <Mike9863> Since Natty, the Show Desktop button has caused windows to move to the sides of my monitor showing only a portion of the screen. How can I make it so it's just the standard minimization for all windows again?
[21:24] <wamicho> barbarella:  hey did you see it ?
[21:25] <jdevel> hey does anyone in here have google voice account?
[21:25] <bsmith093> me
[21:25] <jdevel> how does it work?
[21:25] <bsmith093> it works grest
[21:26] <guntbert> wamicho: wrong channel? :)
[21:26] <jdevel> yea?
[21:26] <Maxx640> sudokill: i replaced pulse by alsa-tray but it doesn't start up automatically
[21:26] <bsmith093> sorry, hold on,
[21:26] <bsmith093> free calling us canada dirt cheap calling worldwide
[21:26] <Maxx640> so the sound mixer isn'nt in the menu bar unless i run the prog
[21:26] <jdevel> can you make calls to PSTN lines?
[21:26] <bsmith093> not sure what that is
[21:26] <jdevel> landline
[21:26] <bsmith093> yes
[21:26] <jdevel> nice
[21:27] <bsmith093> so socks 5 with filezilla help please?
[21:27] <s0u][ight> hello, can i somehow set a downloadlimit for a network interface?
[21:29] <Logan_> !details | bsmith093
[21:30] <ascheel> I have a failed HDD with an Ubuntu installation on it.  Is there a way to get a list of the packages that were installed on that setup?
[21:30] <jeremy77> how trustworthy is google software? from spyware and trackers and junk?
[21:30] <ascheel> jeremy77: from spyware, good.  From trackers, absolutely crap.  Junk is a relative term.
[21:31] <GOMI> i got +50% usage of xorg is that normal ?
[21:32] <GOMI> system i getting slow
[21:33] <speedrunnerG55> what would the command to launch blender be in ubuntu
[21:33] <speedrunnerG55> 2.6
[21:33] <cfcdns> type blender
[21:33] <kion> ./blender
[21:33] <sudokill> i dont think its just blender
[21:33] <sudokill> it might be
[21:34] <kion> you must have an executable named blender
[21:34] <hiexpo> blender2.
[21:34] <hiexpo> type blender 2. and hit tab
[21:35] <gandsnut> What's the best how-to to set up multiple window managers on the current Ubuntu distro?
[21:35] <speedrunnerG55> nothing happened
[21:36] <sudokill> speedrunnerG55, try typing blender and then press tab
[21:36] <tjiggi_fo> just blender > enter
[21:36] <kion> speedrunnerG55 try chmod +x blender
[21:37] <kion> then ./blender
[21:37] <sudokill> ??
[21:37] <sudokill> ?????
[21:37] <ZykoticK9> kion, you'd need to be in the same directory as the "blender" binary for your steps to work
[21:37] <kion> YES!
[21:38] <speedrunnerG55> douglas@douglas-desktop:~$ blender
[21:38] <speedrunnerG55> blender        blender-bin    blenderplayer
[21:38] <gandsnut> There's no window manager selector at the login screen...
[21:38] <Mike9863> Since Natty, the Show Desktop button has caused windows to move to the sides of my monitor showing only a portion of the screen. How can I make it so it's just the standard minimization for all windows again?
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> gandsnut, yes there is - click you username, then Session at the bottom
[21:39] <GOMI> i got +50% usage of xorg is that normal ?
[21:39] <itaylor57> speedrunnerG55, http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:Manual
[21:39] <ZykoticK9> GOMI, if you have compiz/unity - then probably
[21:39] <gandsnut> Thanks ZykoticK9, will try...
[21:40] <ZykoticK9> !classic | gandsnut this is a bot message that includes the directions
[21:40] <Mandrew> hello is there anyway for me to save all the PPAs i have in the software sources? im going to delete this distro that im running and wipe the hdd
[21:41] <GOMI> ZykoticK9,  how can i remove it because i think i removed compiz ? and i use desktop classic now am logged in xubuntu right now
[21:41] <speedrunnerG55> i have an idea
[21:41] <speedrunnerG55> ill reboot
[21:41] <Gil> Hi there - I was wondering if I could ask for someone to talk me through something - I cannot boot, I have got to a maintenance console with a "filesystem check or mount failed" - recovery mode isn't helping... can anyone talk me through the steps required to manually check the filesystems?
[21:42] <ZykoticK9> GOMI, if you are using xfce and still getting 50% Xorg usage, there really isn't too much you could do???  Sorry, I have no suggestions.  -- Remove what?
[21:43] <japro> hmm, even on my netbook i didn't get 50% with compiz
[21:43] <GOMI> ZykoticK9,  weird compiz is still installed just got it removed
[21:43] <japro> not even close
[21:44] <Electron> How do I find out my wireless nic in ubuntu?
[21:44] <japro> but some other processes can produce quite some X usage
[21:44] <kion> Electron in a terminal type ifconfig
[21:44] <kion> and watch for wlan0
[21:44] <Electron> ok
[21:45] <GOMI> flash maybe ?
[21:45] <japro> possible
[21:45] <japro> i guess generally stuff that doesn't directly use hardware acceleration
[21:46] <GOMI> wouw it freaking fast right now ^_^!) thankz Z....
[21:46] <Electron> kion, Anyway to figure out make and model of it?
[21:47] <ZykoticK9> Electron, pci or usb wireless?
[21:47] <ZykoticK9> Electron, "lspci | grep -i net" or "lsusb | grep -i net" might show make/model
[21:47] <kion> Electron try lspci | grep network
[21:47] <Electron> ZykoticK9, ITs a wireless card on a laptop..it came with it
[21:47] <GOMI> xorg is now 13%
[21:47] <oneliner> is there a way to reset the entire gui (unity & friends) to "default install"?
[21:47] <Electron> ZykoticK9, Internal wirless card...has switch on front of it that turns it off and on
[21:48] <ZykoticK9> Electron, try both of my commands above in a terminal - one should work
[21:48] <Electron> k
[21:48] <Electron> thanks
[21:48] <mahir256> oneliner: elaborate...
[21:49] <george_> why in livecd ubuntu works nice, and when i install , it doesn't recognise my nvidia card and wireless ?
[21:49] <Electron> Okay it worked, I appreciate it.
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> oneliner, someone last night did post the directions to reset Unity to default - sorry I didn't record it (I don't take any interest in Unity related issues), but it is possible
[21:50] <rjune> I'm using Natty on an HP with a Mobility Radeon X1300. When trying to run glxgears(or bzflag, etc) I get an error saying that extension GLX is missing.
[21:50] <rjune> I would love some help getting GLX working
[21:50] <george_> how do i install nvidia experimental drivers ?
[21:50] <oneliner> ZykoticK9: thanks
[21:50] <fergal32> hi everybody
[21:51] <ZykoticK9> rjune, you need a driver for your card - i'm not sure the open source driver will have 3d (right now you aren't getting 3d - that's what GLX is BTW)
[21:51] <fergal32> just one question. quite a while ago i was happy using freetype with david turner patches. is there something similar to natty?
[21:52] <Snarsh> vmware player is free on ubuntu, correct? will it enable me to install windows 7 and run 3d accelerated games inside my ubuntu host?
[21:52] <fergal32> i find after working a while the fonts get really ugly
[21:52] <rjune> ZykoticK9, yeah, I know that part. I'm trying to figure out what drivers I need
[21:52] <oneliner> mahir256: irrational playing on my side has rendered the whole desktop somewhat erratic, taskbar menues fail to display for some apps, while ok on others, changes to compiz dont execute untill unity is restarted, changes are not consistent across session logins, sidebar icon tray has erratic behaviour
[21:52] <guntbert> Snarsh: there is virtual box too
[21:52] <soreau> ZykoticK9: open radeon driver has supported older radeons for a very long time now
[21:52] <rjune> soreau, I'm the one with the issue
[21:52] <Snarsh> virtualbox does not work well with 3d accelerated games, i've heard vmware is better but is closed source
[21:52] <soreau> rjune: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to pastebin.com
[21:53] <oneliner> mahir256: i am looking for a "clean slate" procedure
[21:53] <guntbert> Snarsh: although I have my doubts about 3d accel
[21:53] <ZykoticK9> soreau, thanks.  Hopefully you can give rjune some hints :)
[21:53] <olafur> hi hi, does someone know how to get cnijfilter-common?, I cant get it from ubuntu software centre
[21:53] <soreau> rjune: I know that. and I can tell you right now, fglrx does not support your card and hasn't for a few years so if you've installed it, you need to get rid of it
[21:53] <soreau> use fire if necessary
[21:53] <japro> i thought a lot of modern 3d games work ok in wine
[21:53] <japro> haven't tried though
[21:54] <rjune> soreau, Mobility, is a laptop
[21:54] <japro> apparently SC2 for example runs in wine i've heard
[21:54] <soreau> rjune: pastebin the log file
[21:54] <olafur> hi hi, does someone know how to get cnijfilter-common?, I cant get it from ubuntu software centre, and i dont know how to use the terminal to get it
[21:54] <rjune> soreau, which logfile do you want?
[21:54] <mahir256> oneliner: try (the m$ way) restarting X several times, or (my preferred way) removing unity and installing gnome shell
 rjune: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to pastebin.com
[21:54] <Snarsh> eh for the most part i'm just trying to run league of legends from ubuntu so i can avoid using my windows install as a host, wine doesn't work too well with league of legends though
[21:55] <soreau> Snarsh: What graphics card? Have you tried wine?
[21:55] <rjune> http://pastebin.com/iXwW4WT1
[21:56] <rjune> soreau, ^
[21:56] <soreau> rjune: You have the nvidia glx module installed
[21:56] <Snarsh> geforce 9500 gt, i haven't tried wine myself, but i have looked up the install methods for others and they can't get wine to fully work with LoL or they use a lot of workarounds during the install
[21:56] <soreau> rjune: Remove all nvidia packages and restart X
[21:56] <rjune> I have whatever Natty installed
[21:56] <Gil> Wondering if anyone is kind enough to try and help me salvage files - machine falls over during boot. In manual recovery console, fsck /dev/sda5 (which is my home part) returns no errors, even with -f     - however, when I attempt to mount /dev/sda5 it just hangs.... how can I see what is stopping it all from booting?
[21:56] <soreau> rjune: If you've upgraded, it probably installed nvidia driver by mistake
[21:57] <soreau> not the first time it's happened
[21:57] <soreau> (or that upgrades have been problematic)
[21:57] <rjune> probably I did
[21:57] <rjune> installing the nvidia driver for an ati card seems odd
[21:57] <soreau> rjune: In some upgrades, it installs nvidia driver no matter what card you have
[21:58] <soreau> rjune: See the output of 'dpkg -l|grep nvidia|grep -v modalias' and remove all the packages with 'ii' next to them
[21:58] <rjune> what does II indicate?
[21:58] <soreau> installed
[21:59] <rjune> removing all of them tries to remove nvidia-desktop
[22:00] <ubuntunoobie2903> Anyone have a favorite disk mounting program that they'd like to recommend?
[22:00] <mahir256> Gil: pastebin the output of fsck -f /dev/sda5
[22:00] <rjune> soreau, restarting X
[22:01] <george_> hi everyone ... i really need some advice for installing nvidia driver in ubuntu 11.04
[22:01] <rypervenche> ubuntunoobie2903: On Gnome I always used CDemu.
[22:01] <george_> i have tried the proprietary driver and it did not worked
[22:02] <Snarsh> george: what problems are you having? i went through the same ordeal recently
[22:02] <ParadigmUltra> HI Peoples!  :-)
[22:02] <george_> Snarsh: well livecd boots with unity, and then i installed and it did not recognize unity
[22:02] <soreau> george_: use jockey-gtk
[22:03] <mahir256> george: 1: that's the problem with proprietary drivers; 2: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[22:03] <shinta> Тут русские есть?
[22:03] <soreau> ! ru | shinta
[22:03] <Gil> mahir256 sorry I had to manually type it up - output is here http://pastebin.com/JiRdYVLb
[22:03] <olafur> hi hi, does someone know how to get cnijfilter-common?, I cant get it from ubuntu software centre, and i don't know how to use the terminal to get it
[22:03] <rjune> soreau, thanks, glx is working now. I'm guessing some of my other video issues are resolved too
[22:03] <rjune> I appreciate it
[22:03] <ubuntunoobie2903> rypervenche: thanks
[22:03] <soreau> rjune: Cool :-)
[22:04] <share> hi ubuntuers
[22:04] <Snarsh> mahir: i got the most current nvidia driver to work with 11.04, is there a reason not to use it?
[22:04] <Snarsh> other than it being closed source, i mean
[22:04] <george_> soreau: what do i do with jockey-gtk ?
[22:05] <soreau> george_: gksu jockey-gtk
[22:05] <soreau> george_: It should be self-explanatory
[22:05] <SoftTimur> Hello all, I am looking for a svn (or rapidsvn or kdesvn) channel, does anyone know one?
[22:05] <george_> mahir256: wow, but livecd drivers worked fine... isn't there an "easier" option ?
[22:06] <shinta> hello
[22:06] <olafur> ok, i just have to figure out how to type in the terminal, its sudo apt-something, and then i can get my driver
[22:06] <Condorito> Hello, a desktop environment problem on my daughter's HP Mini 110. It originally had Maverick installed but somehow she appears to have updated to Natty, and it has a gnome desktop she is not at all happy with. Is there any way to regain a desktop like Lucid or Maverick?
[22:07] <george_> soreau: ok, i will reinstall ubuntu, because it doesn't boot anymore
[22:07] <ZykoticK9> olafur, try "apt-cache search cnij" i don't seem to have the package you are looking for (but i'm not on Ubuntu, so see if you get any results from the apt-cache search command)
[22:07] <ParadigmUltra> curious, it says my proprietary Nvidia drivers are installed but not in use
[22:07] <george_> soreau: than i will try it
[22:08] <george_> ParadigmUltra: have the same problem
[22:08] <soreau> george_: Don't use the installer from nvidia as it could break stuff. Instead use jockey
[22:08] <ZykoticK9> ParadigmUltra, george_ known bug
[22:08] <soreau> george_: For right now, you might still be able to get into X if you rm -rf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:08] <mahir256> Snarsh: often the proprietary drives are out of date fast, and they don't necessarily do the job right on all machines
[22:08] <ParadigmUltra> Everything seems to work alright, though I haven't tried any games yet.
[22:08] <ParadigmUltra> Compiz works great
[22:08] <soreau> george_: and blacklist the nvidia kernel module
[22:09] <E3D3> Hi, Im in SuperOS (=Ubuntu) & my Update Manager has 450 updates. Only want updating one. How can I unceck the other 449 (not manually) ?
[22:09] <soreau> ParadigmUltra: If compiz works, your drivers are in use
[22:09] <olafur> Zykotick9, the terminal finds the driver
[22:09] <ZykoticK9> ParadigmUltra, if compiz "works great" just ignore the jockey message - it's a bug
[22:09] <ParadigmUltra> cool
[22:09] <mahir256> Snarsh: with the free software one, you can always ask a graphics hacker to help with your problems, since they can see the code
[22:09] <ParadigmUltra> I see
[22:09] <ParadigmUltra> thanks
[22:09] <olafur> now i just have to know how to make it install
[22:09] <ZykoticK9> olafur, then "sudo apt-get install <NAMEHERE>"
[22:10] <olafur> ZykoticK9, thank you, but it is unable to locate the package
[22:10] <Snarsh> yeah, does nouveau support 3d acceleration?
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> mahir256, although I personally like your FAIF vs proprietary driver suggestion - i doubt many people in this channel would accept the lower performance (I personally do)
[22:11] <olafur> this is something weird
[22:11] <soreau> Snarsh: Not officially but it does work for some cards if you enable the experimental 3D support
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> Snarsh, on a limited number of cards it can
[22:12] <ZykoticK9> Snarsh, check for support at http://www.h-node.com/
[22:12] <axisys> is there a way to have both eth0 and wlan0 on at the same time?
[22:12] <axisys> i assume manually it is not impossible .. but need to make some change in interfaces file?
[22:13] <axisys> since they both are dynamic .. i will need to make some changes on dhcpclient conf file as well?
[22:13] <soreau> axisys: You can have eth0 and wlan0 if you have the hardware..
[22:13] <soreau> axisys: and drivers loaded for each
[22:13] <ubuntunoobie2903> How do I change the order of icons on the dock?
[22:13] <george_> soreau: ok i am installing then i will try gksu jockey-gtk
[22:13] <axisys> soreau: i do have both wlan0 and eth0 works.. so I do have the drivers.. but I am thinking of simultaneouly
[22:14] <ZykoticK9> olafur, you said the apt-cache found the package?  then apt-get can install it - but sure you're typing the name correctly
[22:14] <soreau> axisys: You mean like both connected to the same network and bridged for some reason?
[22:14] <olafur> i wrote it right, ill try again
[22:14] <qin> !startup
[22:15] <ZykoticK9> olafur, can you pastebin "apt-cache policy <NAME_HERE>" perhaps it's not in the repo, but something you've installed manually?
[22:15] <axisys> soreau: not necessarily on same network.. i am testing the a router by connecting a cable to it.. while I want the wifi connection to not drop which lets me read the doc through browser at the same time
[22:15] <soreau> olafur: What is the name of the package?
[22:16] <IanWizard> What's the group that's needed to bind to ports?  (for apache)
[22:16] <olafur> cnijfilter
[22:16] <olafur> its a printer program
[22:16] <ZykoticK9> soreau, do you have that package on your system?
[22:16] <axisys> soreau: so while my wifi is working fine.. i don't want the eth0 to drop my wifi connection when plugging a network cable to the laptop
[22:17] <soreau> axisys: You either use one interface or the other for internet.. you can use the opposing interface to do other things though like connect to other machines on the network it's connected to
[22:17] <tonyyarusso> IanWizard: I think only root can do that.  Apache starts with root access and then immediately drops root privs once it's set up.
[22:17] <IanWizard> axisys, there should be an option for wether or not to do that in NM
[22:17] <soreau> !info cnijfilter
[22:17] <olafur> ubuntu software system says that the package needs to be repaired
[22:17] <soreau> ZykoticK9: nope
[22:17] <IanWizard> tonsofpcs, yes, but I'm trying to set it up so that another user can run it.
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> soreau, thanks.
[22:17] <axisys> IanWizard: make sense.. not sure where
[22:18] <ZykoticK9> olafur, looks like you are trying to install something that is outside the Ubuntu repository, sorry I can't help with that.  Best of luck.
[22:18] <mahir256> ubuntunoobie2903: some of the icons you can change by going to preferred applications, but otherwise they cannot (have you tried browsing /usr/share/unity?)
[22:18] <olafur> ok,,, crap, i need that stuff to be able to print
[22:18] <IanWizard> I know that non root can bind to addrs, I thought that it was net, but that's not on my system.
[22:18] <axisys> soreau: i am connected to the internet through wifi while testing a console access to a router using a network cable.. it is not possible with my current setup .. because as soon as it sees a cable connected to eth0 interface it drops the wifi connection.. stuping NM
[22:19] <axisys> stupid NM that is
[22:19] <axisys> :-)
[22:19] <soreau> axisys: Yea, that's NetworkManager making assumptions
[22:19] <axisys> soreau: yep.. do you know how to tell network manager dont drop the wifi connection
[22:19] <soreau> axisys: You'd have to set it up manually in network configuration or ditch network manager altogether and do everything manually
[22:19] <axisys> even if it is a temporary fix ..
[22:20] <axisys> soreau: hmm.. wish NM has an option to keep wifi on all the time.. at least for the time being while I am testing
[22:20] <soreau> axisys: You could just stop the network manager service and connect wlan0 manually..
[22:21] <Condorito> I'll put this another way. How do I revert to the Gnome Classic desktop on natty, please?
[22:21] <twnznz> apt-get install gnome-desktop
[22:21] <axisys> soreau: so that is networking or network-manager?
[22:21] <soreau> axisys: the latter
[22:22] <axisys> soreau: how do I start wlan0 manually.. I should know that before taking that path
[22:22] <ZykoticK9> !classic | Condorito
[22:22] <axisys> this is temporary while playing with the router
[22:22] <soreau> axisys: iwconfig for wep or no encryption or wpa-supplicant for wpa
[22:23] <axisys> wpa it is .. ok
[22:23] <soreau> axisys: Then you run dhclient $IFACE where IFACE is the network interface you're trying to connect via dhcp
[22:23] <Condorito> Thanks!
[22:24] <soreau> axisys: ie. iwconfig wlan0 key yoursecretkey essid yourAPname && dhclient wlan0
[22:24] <soreau> axisys: or wpa_supplicant blah blah && dhclient wlan0
[22:26] <Mike9863> Since Natty, the Show Desktop button has caused windows to move to the sides of my monitor showing only a portion of the screen. How can I make it so it's just the standard minimization for all windows again?
[22:27] <soreau> Mike9863: use classic ubuntu
[22:27] <soreau> it's likely yet a unity bug
[22:27] <soreau> another*
[22:27] <Mike9863> soreau, I am using classic
[22:28] <robin0800> soreau: don't think there is a show desktop app in unity
[22:28] <Mike9863> I don't think it's a bug, just a redesigned way to minimize Windows which I don't really like. It's kind of like the show desktop feature in Mac OS.
[22:29] <soreau> Mike9863: Hmm.. perhaps you have show desktop plugin enabled in ccsm? try disabling it
[22:30] <Mike9863> soreau, yeah that was it. Thanks again.
[22:30] <robin0800> soreau: classic uses metacity not compiz
[22:30] <soreau> Mike9863: heh, welcome ;)
[22:30] <soreau> robin0800: You can run compiz in classic
[22:31] <soreau> which is what Mike9863 is doing
[22:31] <soreau> and me too
[22:34] <marsfligth> How to synchronize folders with a compressed archive with the ability to do what 'rsync --delete' does for uncompressed?
[22:34] <robin0800> soreau: I take it you don't like unity?
[22:34] <soreau> robin0800: What does that have to do with ubuntu?
[22:35] <ParadigmUltra> I like unity, it works well with compiz as long as you have the unity plug in activated.  I like the mac-like unified menu mar
[22:35] <ParadigmUltra> bar*
[22:35] <Smilex> When I use the Windows Installer to install ubuntu along-side Windows, can I, when running Ubuntu, access the files that I have on my Windows?
[22:35] <robin0800> soreau: its the default in ubuntu 11.04
[22:35] <soreau> robin0800: Yes but my opinion is irrelevant
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> soreau, <OT> actually Unity has *A LOT* to do with Ubuntu.  The current decline of Ubuntu use is unmistakable related to Unity</OT>
[22:36] <soreau> ZykoticK9: My opinion of unity, not unity itself
[22:36] <ParadigmUltra> Zykoticks9, but it's really easy to just install gnome 3.
[22:36] <ZykoticK9> !gnome3
[22:37] <ParadigmUltra> ohhhhh
[22:37] <ZykoticK9> ParadigmUltra, i personally think - if you don't like Unity, drop Ubuntu.  It's like a vote - and your vote does count, support a distro that you agree with what they are doing.
[22:38] <ParadigmUltra> Oh yeah, the reviews i read loaded it on Fedora,  that's right
[22:38] <josedb> Hi everyone, does anybody know why is not possible to access samba by netbios name but by ip address?
[22:38] <Smilex> sounds like I'll be hated for saying that Unity is one of the best things to happen to Ubuntu :P
[22:39] <ParadigmUltra> well good think I like it then :-)  There are a few things that it nolonger does, but Compiz has the functionality
[22:39] <twnznz> Ubuntu still supports Gnome 2.x, even on 11.04. Just choose classic, done and done. 1 tweak
[22:39] <robin0800> Smilex: I like it too on this old laptop
[22:40] <qin> Smilex: <3 (mostly for personal courage)
[22:41] <Marcassin> hi everyone :)
[22:42] <ParadigmUltra> hi Marcassin
[22:42] <Marcassin> I was wondering if someone can help me with my wifi pci card :'(
[22:43] <josedb> Hi everyone, does anybody know why is not possible to access samba by netbios name but by ip address?
[22:43]  * axisys help
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> josedb, is it netbios name or IP that is not working?
[22:44] <Marcassin> recently, due to an update I guess, I cannot scan any wifi network
[22:44] <ParadigmUltra> bummer, sometimes those updates suck balls
[22:44] <ZykoticK9> josedb, for netbios names you'd need to have a local DNS server running, or hosts files on each box with all the names/ip mapped
[22:45] <josedb> ZykoticK9: When double click on nautilus icon i got an error, but if a write smb://ip i can acces
[22:45] <choe> Marcassin, sudo dpkg -i bcmwl-kernel-source_5.60.48.36+bdcom-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[22:45] <Marcassin> ok thank you choe
[22:46] <josedb> ZykoticK9: i mean net tab on nautilus, i see the local network but cannot acces
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> josedb, i'm surprised it isn't working from nautilus - if you see the names then.  Sorry I don't have any suggestions, good luck.
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> josedb, if you can't access the network, see the names - that does make sense
[22:46] <iniesta> hi
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> josedb, be sure all your systems are on the same Workgroup
[22:47] <iniesta> i dowanload the iso to make live cd
[22:47] <iniesta> but when im trying to run it.after i wait like 2 min for ubuntu to load im getting some running codes which i cant see clearly and then nothing :S
[22:47] <spacebug-> andrés? ;)
[22:48] <ParadigmUltra> It took me all day yesterday to burn the dern CD !!!  *pulls hair*  The disks kept aborting or when they actually finished the install froze due to disk errors.
[22:48] <Marcassin> I should be damned choe, it does not work, maybe 'cause am on 10.10 instead of 11.04
[22:48] <josedb> it is,
[22:48] <iniesta> any help please?:)
[22:48] <KM0201> ParadigmUltra: do you have a USB device, and is your machine capable of booting USB?
[22:48] <Gryllida> iniesta: More details, please?
[22:49] <iniesta> i came here yesterday and two guys gave me a link for the iso
[22:49] <iniesta> i burn image and made live cd
[22:49] <iniesta> change the boot options
[22:49] <ParadigmUltra> I only have old USB that can hold that much :-(  I finally got it after installing 5 buring apps on my wifes computer before i got one that would burn properly
[22:49] <iniesta> to boot from cd
[22:49] <iniesta> but now that dont work :S
[22:49] <josedb> ZykoticK9: it is, i add the netbios name on /etc/hosts and its current ip so now i can acces that share
[22:50] <iniesta> the ubuntu isnt running,i get some running code then my screen become black but the  computer turned on
[22:50] <ZykoticK9> josedb, nice
[22:50] <josedb> ZykoticK9: but this may not be neccesary
[22:50] <josedb> ZykoticK9: i deffinetly cant do this with all the machines on the network
[22:51] <ZykoticK9> josedb, :( sorry I don't have any other suggestions, best of luck.
[22:51] <choe> Marcassin, sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source --purge , sudo dpkg -i bcmwl-kernel-source_5.60.48.36+bdcom-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb, reboot !!
[22:52] <taisa> will there be Launcher with Quicklists support in Unity 2d?
[22:52] <Snarsh> hmm, pidgin supports irc, nice
[22:52] <Gryllida> Snarsh: To an extent.
[22:53] <Snarsh> which features am i missing out on? dcc and the like?
[22:54] <Gryllida> Snarsh: A line about channel mode and other statuses, a load of useful scripts and aliases, I suppose.
[22:54] <wslayer> after booting the system goes to a black screen and reboots
[22:54] <wslayer> what's that?
[22:54] <Marcassin> thank you choe, am trying this, fingers cross :)
[22:54] <gogeta> taisa: unity 2d heh
[22:54] <Gryllida> wslayer: Can you boot safemode and check logs?
[22:54] <gogeta> taisa: i highly dought ubuntu is gonna matyane 2 unitys
[22:54] <babu> any one help ;How to install opera on linux
[22:54] <alesan> hi what program can I use to take a picture using my webcam?
[22:55] <ZykoticK9> alesan, cheese
[22:55] <gogeta> babu: sudo apt-get install opera
[22:55] <babu> GRAB it,,pic saving from,cam
[22:56] <Snarsh> does the vmware player have a trial length on ubuntu? has anyone used it?
[22:56] <alesan> ZykoticK9, thanks!
[22:56] <wslayer> Gryllida: when i reboot two or three times grub menu shows up and i can enter in the system fine
[22:56] <Gryllida> wslayer: One you enter the system, please check the logs
[22:56] <gogeta> Snarsh: no player is the free version or vmware however vietualbox is totaly free and jts as good
[22:56] <babu> gogeta:Dear would u please guide me ,command line type in terminal?
[22:56] <babu> i m sorry i m new in that way
[22:56] <gogeta> babu: that was the entire command ")
[22:56] <Gryllida> babu: 'sudo apt-get install opera' is a command in Terminal, yes
[22:57] <wslayer> Gryllida: what log am i supposed to check?
[22:57] <Gryllida> wslayer: /var/log/kern.lorg for starters.
[22:57] <babu> Thanx i like ur hospitality
[22:58] <gogeta> babu: you can also find it in ubuntu softwhere store
[22:58] <ZykoticK9> wslayer, /var/log/messages might give you more info
[22:58] <olafur> ok, now im trying to get my tv-out to work, any thoughts?
[22:58] <babu> o no ,,its says sudo-apt: command not found
[22:58] <gogeta> olafur: plug it in
[22:59] <gogeta> babu: sudo apt-get install opera
[22:59] <ZykoticK9> babu, "sudo apt-get ..."
[22:59] <olafur> tv is plugged in, and the computer doesnt find it :D
[22:59] <gogeta> olafur: i always had mine plugged in at boot so it might need to be turned on in screen options
[22:59] <leccy> use the software center or whatever it's called. surely that's easier for new users rather than sudo command line stuff?
[23:00] <taisa> gogeta: ok, thx
[23:00] <babu> yes lol sounds like once machine works
[23:00] <babu> lol
[23:00] <babu> thanx anyway
[23:00] <lasha> hey guys whats new with ubuntu ?
[23:00] <lasha> i quit it because of 11.04, i have 10.10 right now but still it wont last long
[23:00] <olafur> its an s-video,
[23:00] <olafur> ill try to reboot
[23:01] <ParadigmUltra> Lasha, well Gnome Xchat seems to act strange for one.  I'm going to get reguular xchat and see how that works
[23:01] <gogeta> lasha: no need to quit just stay away from ubuntu use kde xfce lxde etc
[23:01] <babu> bbut its still says.could nt find packge opera
[23:01] <gogeta> lasha: as in one of the many remixes
[23:01] <lasha> i tried mint for example
[23:01] <gogeta> babu: thats ok you can get it from there site easly
[23:01] <dimas> i want to delete a broken application i install by hand but sudo apt-get remove dont do it
[23:01] <lasha> and it has same "bugs" as ubuntu
[23:02] <babu> yes dear i got it and save it on desktop
[23:02] <astraljava> dimas: Package manager won't know about it since you installed it by hand.
[23:02] <lasha> i love linux cause of compiz
[23:02] <gogeta> babu: http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?platform=linux
[23:02] <lasha> and thats one of the many things that dont work on 11.04 either ubuntu or mint
[23:02] <gogeta> babu: just grab the deb and install its all nice and gui based
[23:02] <babu> ch,cg, i have it placed  on desktop
[23:02] <dimas> astraljava how i remove it then?
[23:02] <astraljava> dimas: If you still got the source left, go to the source directory, and do `sudo make uninstall`.
[23:03] <Marcassin> Thank you choe, it works like a charm now :)
[23:03] <lasha> gogeta: which distro do u have urself ?
[23:03] <babu> dear GOGETA it is
[23:03] <gogeta> lasha: mint xfce
[23:03] <dimas> i deleted the source
[23:03] <dimas> put it in the trach can
[23:03] <astraljava> dimas: Can you fetch it again?
[23:03] <lasha> gogeta: does the compiz function as in 10.10 ? and does it have 64 bit ?
[23:03] <gogeta> lasha: thers also xubuntu thats xfce based
[23:03] <dimas> fetch?
[23:03] <gogeta> lasha: yes
[23:03] <astraljava> dimas: If it's still in the trash can, you can restore it from there.
[23:04] <dimas> empt it out already
[23:04] <gbili> hello, i am trying to set keyring to automatically unlock at login, so i check the option in "details"
[23:04] <astraljava> dimas: Fetch, as in download where you got it in the first place.
[23:04] <lasha> gogeta: ok i ll try that out in future so far i love ubuntu 10.10 =) i just wondered what were the plans for the future, like are they gonna suicide and leave 11.04 as it is ?! rhetoric question :P
[23:04] <dimas> do you think if i do the installation again will over write it?
[23:05] <gbili> hello, i am trying to set keyring to automatically unlock at login, so i check the option in "details" but it wont work, next time I log in it still asks for password
[23:05] <wslayer> Gryllida: I only have ubuntu installed on this machine, couldn't be that the system is trying to "skip" grub menu going directly to ubuntu but something weird happens on the process?
[23:05] <dimas> astraljava
[23:05] <babu> ok let me see
[23:05] <gogeta> lasha: yep gnome 3 is gonna smoke em i have seen cleaned up versionb to make it more gnome 2 like and its epic
[23:05] <astraljava> dimas: Then you just need to `./configure && sudo make uninstall`
[23:05] <babu> ok letme see
[23:05] <gogeta> lasha: unlike unity gnome 3 can be compeatly changed its just the stock look that sucks
[23:05] <Gryllida> wslayer: I don't know. I need logs for more details.
[23:05] <astraljava> dimas: Actually, `./configure && make && sudo make uninstall`
[23:06] <dimas> astraljava i am going to try
[23:06] <lasha> gogeta: is gnome 3 ubuntu plan ? or which distro does utilize gnome 3 the best way ?
[23:06] <gogeta> lasha: you can try xubuntu to its xfce with compiz
[23:06] <babu> i got it,opera_11.50.1074_i386
[23:06] <astraljava> dimas: Ok. And in the future, please use checkinstall for manual installations.
[23:06] <gogeta> lasha: everyone but ubuntu stock
[23:06] <astraljava> dimas: That way the package manager can keep track of files that are being sprinkled across the filesystem.
[23:06] <wslayer> Gryllida: what part of kern.log should i check? I'm sorry im newb with linux
[23:06] <bbluz> good evening everybody
[23:07] <gogeta> lasha: every other distro will be using gnome 3
[23:07] <lasha> gogeta: oh i thought it was only on fedora and suse
[23:07] <dimas> astraljava got ya
[23:07] <dimas> thanks
[23:07] <babu> babu@ptcl:~$ sudo apt-get install opera_11.50.1074_i386.deb
[23:07] <babu> Reading package lists... Done
[23:07] <babu> Building dependency tree... Done
[23:07] <babu> E: Couldn't find package opera_11.50.1074_i386.deb
[23:07] <Gryllida> wslayer: `tail /var/log/kern.log` nd see anything relevant to the problem. Maybe syslog too
[23:07] <astraljava> dimas: No prob. :)
[23:07] <gbili> does anyone know how to automatically unlock keyring
[23:07] <gogeta> lasha: im a resorce whore so i dont like all the compiz junk so i use xfce and turn it off
[23:07] <babu> did u see the terminal msg
[23:07] <lasha> gogeta: whats lxde for example ? even though i ll try xface mint i guess
[23:07] <Gryllida> babu: use 'opera' instead of that
[23:08] <yeats> !lxde
[23:08] <yeats> !lubuntu
[23:08] <bbluz> had anyone here ever used virsh-clone ?
[23:08] <babu> excuse me ,,i cant understand
[23:08] <gogeta> lasha: lxde is even lighter then xfce in terms of memery use. but xfce is a good middle gound has plenty of features compiz etc
[23:08] <astraljava> babu: Only dpkg will need the full filename, apt-get only needs the package name.
[23:08] <yeats> babu: 'sudo apt-get install opera'
[23:08] <gogeta> lasha: but not trying to remkae the desktop like unity and gnome 3
[23:09] <babu> so,plz guide me what can i do in that scanerio
[23:09] <gogeta> babu: you have the gui?
[23:09] <lasha> gogeta: ok i see, no lxde for me :P
[23:09] <gogeta> babu: just click the package in downloads
[23:09] <iniesta> hi
[23:09] <iniesta> when im trying to install ubuntu live cd im getting this error:
[23:09] <babu> ok
[23:10] <babu> i did
[23:10] <mengu> hi. i am using ubuntu 11.04 with my acer 7750g laptop. when i watch some flash videos sometimes the voice is gone and when i go to sound preferences the output device is removed from there.
[23:10] <gogeta> babu: should launch the installer after asking for your password
[23:10] <gogeta> :)
[23:10] <mengu> how do i know if my sound driver is installed properly
[23:10] <iniesta> squashfs unable to read fragment cache entry 13d31a28
[23:10] <usr13> mengu: alsamixer
[23:11] <babu> i click on the desktop folder of downloaded opera '
[23:11] <gogeta> babu: k
[23:11] <mengu> usr13: how does that help me
[23:11] <usr13> babu: Use the package manager
[23:11] <gogeta> usr13: itsw not in the repo for some reasion had him get the deb from there site
[23:11] <usr13> babu: sudo apt-get install opera
[23:11] <babu> archive manager
[23:11] <babu> i click it
[23:12] <axisys> soreau: stop network-manager; wpa_suplicant blah ; dhcpclient iface.. works to get manual config for wifi.. but as soon as I plug the network cable it calls the RF-KILL so wifi disconnects :-(
[23:12] <gogeta> babu: its not a .deb
[23:12] <gogeta> babu: did you just install?
[23:12] <soreau> axisys: ouch, that sucks..
[23:12] <qin> babu: Is it .deb, .bin or .tar.gz ????
[23:12] <lasha> gogeta: ok thank u man see u going off
[23:12] <bbluz> had anyone here ever used virsh-clone ? thanks :)
[23:12] <axisys> soreau: yep
[23:12] <babu> it has 2 file foot format ,lol.and one folder name control.tar.gz
[23:12] <axisys> might be some dbus that detects the network cable and calls the kill ?
[23:12] <iniesta> anyone knows please?:)
[23:12] <usr13> !opera
[23:12] <babu> rat.gz
[23:13] <wslayer> Gryllida: http://paste.ubuntu.com/638158/
[23:13] <gogeta> babu: you grabbed the wrong one get the deb file
[23:13] <babu> tar.gz sorry
[23:13] <qin> babu: That issource package, do NOT install opera this way!
[23:13] <mengu> the weird thing with my problem is that it only happens when i watch movies or anything in flash
[23:13] <babu> dear.i got opera_11.50.1074_i386.deb
[23:13] <Gryllida> wslayer: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade -- will it fix the issue?
[23:14] <babu> what 2 do
[23:14] <gogeta> babu: http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?distro=ubuntu&id=33858%2C33856%2C33854&pack=&location=344&thanks=yes&sub=++++
[23:14] <astraljava> mengu: Sorry, might have missed a couple of your lines. What happens only when you watch movies or do anything with flash?
[23:14] <qin> babu: sudo dpkg -i ope<TAB> (in right folder)
[23:14] <gogeta> qin: he got the tgz not the deb
[23:15] <babu> downloading it
[23:15] <mengu> astraljava: when i watch some flash videos sometimes the voice is gone and when i go to sound preferences the output device is removed from there.
[23:15] <qin> gogeta: He just said he have .deb too
[23:15] <astraljava> gogeta: No, that's what you will see when you use file-roller on a .deb.
[23:15] <usr13> mengu: alsamixer
[23:15] <gogeta> qin: then hwe just needs to click the deb
[23:15] <gogeta> qin: it should launch gdeb
[23:15] <n-iCe> !awus036h
[23:15] <wslayer> Gryllida: i will reboot brb
[23:15] <babu> while downloading ,plz tell me abt u
[23:15] <astraljava> gogeta: Err... sorry, no.
[23:16] <astraljava> gogeta: Don't know what I was thinking. :)
[23:16] <babu> ur very nice guy
[23:16] <gbili> is it possible to get infected by downloading an image?
[23:16] <qin> gogeta: Maybe it is better to not let people click thinks....
[23:16] <babu> yes it is downloaded
[23:16] <gogeta> qin: lol
[23:16] <gogeta> qin: i didnt direct link the first time
[23:16] <qin> gbili: From where, torrent?
[23:17] <gbili> qin, no from http
[23:17] <olafur> this is strange, all my options of shutting down the computer, seeing the clock, internet and everything just got lost
[23:17] <qin> gbili: Ckeck md5 with ubuntu website.
[23:17] <gogeta> babu: you should be able just to click that deb and run threw the install now
[23:17] <babu> o ho,let me knw ,ur sent  opera link is for amd 64 bit processor but i have 32 bit p3 intel
[23:17] <babu> no?
[23:18] <gogeta> babu: lol jeez
[23:18] <gbili> qin, actually i would like to know how it can be done
[23:18] <astraljava> mengu: Flash is evil. Its configuration is sometimes tricky, and I don't know enough of it to really give good advice, sorry. Maybe browse the ubuntuforums.org for solutions?
[23:18] <gogeta> babu: i think its for both it says x86-64
[23:18] <olafur> so i cant shut down my computer, or anything
[23:18] <mengu> astraljava: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[23:18] <mengu> that one did help me
[23:18] <babu> oh thanks
[23:18] <astraljava> gogeta: That's for 64-bit machines.
[23:19] <mgolisch> anyone using ubuntu on their unibody macbook pros?
[23:19] <babu> click it but sill looking my face nt work
[23:19] <gogeta> astraljava: http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?os=linux-x86-64&ver=11.50&local=y
[23:19] <mgolisch> having serious problems with its braodcom wlan
[23:19] <mgolisch> its performing realy bad
[23:19] <olafur> does anyone know what to do when all the options you have disappear from your display?
[23:19] <wslayer> Gryllida: it's working :) thanks
[23:19] <qin> gbili: That paranoid question, check iso, if md5 is ok, then it is ok. But you can have spoofed download with bad iso, paranoid anwear
[23:20] <gogeta> babu: hes right lol it slected that for me being im 64bit
[23:20] <babu> if right click menu it says,open with terminal,open with archive manager
[23:20] <gogeta> babu: http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?os=linux-i386&ver=11.50&local=y
[23:20] <tiago> how can i make hyperlinks in libreoffice writer?
[23:20] <babu> oh no problm
[23:20] <hotrod> hi people, i want to create a restricted user in ubuntu and i want to see them only use firefox browser, nothing else i want they can make, how can i do this ?
[23:20] <gbili> qin, sorry i told you image, but i meant picture :S
[23:21] <gogeta> babu: just dubble click it should auto open with the gui package installer
[23:21] <gogeta> babu: once you get the 32bit one leave the slection at defult and just hit download
[23:21] <babu> it is the same i have hour ago
[23:21] <babu> i got it again
[23:22] <gogeta> babu: did you just dubble click on it
[23:22] <usr13> hotrod: Do you want them to have access to audio too?
[23:22] <astraljava> babu:  What was the problem an hour ago?
[23:22] <Jensit> Heyho
[23:22] <babu> i click it
[23:22] <olafur> hello, my menu just disappeared,
[23:22] <gogeta> babu: its not launching the deb in staller?
[23:22] <LilleCarl> olafur, what menu?
[23:22] <gogeta> installer
[23:22] <qin> gbili: Do not think in linux there is way to make use of it.
[23:22] <babu> nt works few secnd loading and stop
[23:22] <hotrod> usr13: no , i want only they access to web browser, i dont want they put flash card, hard disk, cd driver, i dont want anything. only i want them access to some computers in network, and browser enough
[23:23] <mengu> thanks usr13 & astraljava
[23:23] <olafur> LilleCarl, the menu for shutting down, sound, internet, all the stuff in the top right corner
[23:23] <babu> opera_11-1.50.1074_i386.deb
[23:23] <babu> thats bt work on clicking
[23:23] <LilleCarl> olafur, are you using gnome?
[23:24] <gbili> qin, ok thanks
[23:24] <olafur> iLilleCarl, I am not sure, not very experienced with ubuntu
[23:24] <gogeta> babu: it install it?
[23:24] <LilleCarl> Because if you are using gnome its just a gnome applet you can add back
[23:24] <usr13> hotrod: adduser to add the user.  Don't add them to any groups.  Set it up with xfce.  Place an icon on the desktop for firefox.  Remove the panel. and all other icons, (accept for firefox).
[23:24] <babu> no not working on double click
[23:24] <olafur> I think its gnome
[23:24] <astraljava> mengu: Great that you found help!
[23:24] <astraljava> mengu: Thanks the documenters, not me. :)
[23:24] <LilleCarl> olafur, right click on the bar where the menu used to be and open smth like "applets"
[23:24] <Jensit> Babu, try dropping it into software manager
[23:25] <astraljava> mengu: And keep in mind, if you can help, it will help others.
[23:25] <babu> o yes
[23:25] <hotrod> usr13:  i dont use xfce , we use gnome ?
[23:25] <LilleCarl> Hmm ima get ubuntu on a virtual machine to support ppl from my paltop i think :)
[23:25] <babu> thanx
[23:25] <Jensit> Np ;)
[23:25] <olafur> and add stuff from there
[23:25] <wslayer> Gryllida: but I'm wondering why ubuntu selected from grub menu after too much reboots worked fine... weird
[23:25] <olafur> it might work
[23:25] <usr13> hotrod: Ok, then use gnome.
[23:25] <babu> u mean open with archive manager?
[23:25] <gogeta> babu: nope
[23:25] <hotrod> usr13:  i dont want also they can access to system bar also ?
[23:25] <LilleCarl> olafur, type the name of the people that you want them to read your message, since the cannel is so big we can miss em else
[23:25] <robin0800> babalu_: right click it and tell me what choices you can see
[23:25] <babu> ?
[23:26] <usr13> hotrod: then remove it.
[23:26] <gogeta> babu: sudoi apt-get install gdebi
[23:26] <astraljava> babu: The easiest is to open a terminal, and issue the command that you're already given: `sudo dpkg -i oper<tab>` in the directory where the .deb lies in.
[23:26] <magpii> can someone help me install sage please? i am not so good with terminal and lose my way when trying to install the package
[23:26] <hotrod> usr13:  thank you very much.
[23:26] <qin> babu: In terminal: sudo dpkg -i opera_11-1.50.1074_i386.deb  (from folder where .des is))
[23:26] <olafur> LilleCarl, sorry, I forgot to type in your name
[23:26] <gogeta> babu: sudo apt-get install gdebi
[23:26] <robin0800> babu_: right click it and tell me what choices you can see
[23:26] <Jensit> Babu, start the software center and drop the file into it
[23:26] <LilleCarl> olafur, any solution yet? ;)
[23:26] <gogeta> robin0800: i think hes missing that
[23:26] <wslayer> Gryllida: btw is there a key to fire the ubuntu menu during boot?
[23:26] <Gryllida> Not that I know of
[23:27] <babu> where resides software centre
[23:27] <astraljava> wslayer: Define ubuntu menu during boot. grub, maybe?
[23:27] <olafur> LilleCarl, I can add all the things Im missing, but its not the orginal
[23:27] <LilleCarl> olafur, are you using ubuntu 11.04?
[23:27] <babu> i guess i saw somewhere software centre/?
[23:27] <babu> lol
[23:27] <Jensit> Babu, u got ubuntu 11.4?
[23:27] <wslayer> Gryllida: s/ubuntu/grub
[23:27] <LilleCarl> because i really got no experience with unity or what it now is called xD
[23:27] <olafur> LilleCarl, yes, was just putting it on this computer
[23:28] <astraljava> wslayer: Hold down shift while it's booting.
[23:28] <matiu> Hey guys, any link on making /dev/dsp appear
[23:28] <gogeta> babu: sudo apt-get install gdebi should enable installiung debs the gui way i dunno why thats missing on you
[23:28] <matiu> under pulse ..
[23:28] <rewt> wslayer, hold shift while booting
[23:28] <astraljava> wslayer: If you're using 11.04, Esc if an earlier release.
[23:28] <babu> o h ok
[23:28] <babu> let me check bt reminal
[23:30] <pooltable> help upgrade LibreOffice how to ?
[23:30] <wslayer> ok thanks Gryllida and all
[23:30] <Ycarene> I'm having difficulty with acidrip, I can play the dvd in VLC but I am unable to load the disk in Acidrip, I get "Can't read DVD track. Faulty Disc?" and lsdvd gives me "libdvdread: Invalid title IFO"
[23:30] <babu> i prompt in terminal ' sudo apt-get install gdebi ,its asking password
[23:31] <Jensit> Type password
[23:31] <gogeta> babu: yes thats your password you use to ligin
[23:31] <Jensit> And enter
[23:31] <gogeta> login
[23:31] <babu> yea but nt work msg is,,,Reading package lists... Done
[23:31] <babu> Building dependency tree... Done
[23:31] <babu> E: Couldn't find package gdebi
[23:31] <babu> babu@ptcl:~$
[23:31] <gogeta> babu: lol sudo apt=get update
[23:32] <gogeta> babu: sudo apt-get update
[23:32] <babu> lol. ok
[23:32] <gogeta> babu: no won der you couldent find opera
[23:32] <gogeta> babu: after thats done sudo apt-get install opera
[23:33] <Jensit> Opera is an extern ppa @ gogeta
[23:33] <gogeta> oh
[23:33] <Jensit> He has to add the ppa via the .deb file
[23:33] <babu> its says  sudo apt-get update
[23:33] <babu> Reading package lists... Done
[23:33] <ParadigmUltra|2> I hate to say it, but I like KVirc better than xchat :-(
[23:33] <gogeta> babu: ok scrach that after thats done sudo apt-get install gdebi
[23:34] <LilleCarl> olafur, back
[23:34] <qin> babu: sudo dpkg -i `find ~ -name "opera_11-1.50.1074_i386.deb" `
[23:34] <ParadigmUltra> I feel like a trader
[23:34] <babu> ok
[23:34] <babu> letme
[23:34] <pooltable> help upgrade LibreOffice how to ?
[23:34] <gogeta> qin: dpkg cant handel deps
[23:34] <gogeta> qin: with it could
[23:34] <gogeta> wish
[23:34] <olafur> LilleCarl, any luck?
[23:35] <olafur> LilleCarl, I had similar problem with ubuntu 10. something
[23:35] <LilleCarl> olafur, since i do not have ubuntu installed at the moment i cannot really help you alot more then that you should be able to add back lost applets
[23:35] <babu>  sudo apt-get install gdebi
[23:35] <babu> Reading package lists... Done
[23:35] <babu> Building dependency tree... Done
[23:35] <babu> E: Couldn't find package gdebi
[23:35] <gogeta> babu: my god 11 repos are on retard pills
[23:35] <solayagim> pooltable, did you install libreoffice from ppa or directly .deb files?
[23:35] <LilleCarl> olafur, to prevent this you should make sure all applets are locked all time
[23:36] <Flannel> babu: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[23:36] <solayagim> babu, try sudo apt-get install gdebi-core
[23:36] <olafur> LilleCarl, they are all locked, thats the funny thing
[23:36] <astraljava> babu: Seriously, dpkg is always there. Please use it, to avoid further headache.
[23:37] <babu> $ sudo dpkg -i find~ -name*opera 11-1.50.1070_i386.deb
[23:37] <babu> dpkg: error processing find~ (--install):
[23:37] <babu>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[23:37] <babu> dpkg: error processing -name*opera (--install):
[23:37] <babu>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[23:37] <pooltable> solayagin i installit when 11.4 come out now like to upgrade to the new version
[23:37] <babu> dpkg: error processing 11-1.50.1070_i386.deb (--install):
[23:37] <FloodBot1> babu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:37] <babu>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[23:37] <LilleCarl> olafur, then you should lift your computer and throw it as hard as you can into the nearest wall. No but they shall not just dissapear, its something you install or do that does mess something up
[23:37] <Flannel> babu: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[23:37] <gogeta> astraljava: not having gdebi is byond retarted how do they expect a new user like him to install things not in the defult repo
[23:38] <Flannel> gogeta: gdebi is in the repos.  His repositories are likely misconfigured.
[23:38] <astraljava> gogeta: By the help of people on this channel? Users will learn.
[23:38] <babu> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050405 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2)
[23:38] <gogeta> Flannel: i thought it was
[23:38] <olafur> LilleCarl, I was trying to get my s-video to work, I might have done something there that made those app disappear
[23:38] <babu> flannel did see that
[23:39] <Flannel> babu: I did.  Please run the following and paste the output into paste.ubuntu.com:
[23:39] <LilleCarl> olafur, letting me know what s-video is might help me out a bit ;)
[23:39] <Flannel> babu: `lsb_release -a && sudo apt-get update`
[23:39] <LilleCarl> and olafur if it were deleted when isntalling s-video on ubuntu 10 that should be the problem
[23:39] <astraljava> babu: Open a terminal, navigate to the directory where you have the .deb. Issue the command `sudo dpkg -i oper<TAB>`, where <TAB> means a hit on the tabulator button in the keyboard.
[23:39] <babu> i dontknw i find someone very hard seeker friends thats ubuntu forced to go
[23:39] <astraljava> Okay, Flannel can take you from here.
[23:40] <olafur> LilleCarl, s-video is basicly tv-out on my computer, I was trying to set it up, and i made a clean install with ubuntu 11.04
[23:40] <babu> i nt use TAB button
[23:40] <Jensit> Babu, to install opera via gui download the .deb file from homepage. Then open yor downloads directory and rightclick on the .deb file and choose execute with software centre
[23:40] <babu> enter i used
[23:40] <squirrels> i'm about to install wubi. what's the difference between ubuntu/ubuntu netbook/kubuntu/xubuntu/etc?
[23:40] <gogeta> Jensit: omg i didnt think of that
[23:40] <LilleCarl> olafur, with tv-out you mean just to use the tv as a screen?
[23:40] <Flannel> babu: Please run the following and paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com: `lsb_release -a && sudo apt-get update`
[23:40] <Magic_Hobo> or use gdebi its usually faster
[23:41] <olafur> LilleCarl, yes, for some reasons my computer wont find my tv
[23:41] <astraljava> babu: Okay, well tabulator will complete what it can find according to circumstances. It's called bash completion. Very useful. :)
[23:41] <gogeta> Magic_Hobo: yea some reasion i think his repos are all wired
[23:41] <LilleCarl> squirrels, they are just ising different window managers
[23:41] <gogeta> Magic_Hobo: not finsing gedbi
[23:41] <gogeta> finding
[23:41] <babu> LOOOOOOOOO ,,guys i m window user ,so u can guide me as a child in first day in sachool
[23:41] <usr13> squirrels: ubuntu uses unity or gnome.  kubuntu uses KDE.  netbook is just formatted for small screen.  etc...
[23:41] <Flannel> babu: Please run the following and paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com: `lsb_release -a && sudo apt-get update`
[23:41] <solayagim> there is one thing, if user's linux experience is under zero first he should learn something from the net. There are many useful resources for the beginners.
[23:42] <squirrels> usr13, LilleCarl: so where can i learn the difference
[23:42] <gogeta> babu: listion to flannel he knoes his stuff
[23:42] <LilleCarl> olafur, hmmm that is a big problem :( i dont think i can assist you further even if i would like to :/
[23:42] <LilleCarl> squirrels, usr13 just told you ;)
[23:42] <Magic_Hobo> huh, did he use ther terminal or synaptic to get it?
[23:42] <solayagim> at least users should know how to install .deb file
[23:42] <babu> gogeta i guess ,grapes r sore,loooo
[23:42] <squirrels> LilleCarl: KDE is 3 letters for me
[23:43] <squirrels> that does not tell me anything
[23:43] <gogeta> babu: excute with softewhere store should work to as one guy pointed
[23:43] <LilleCarl> squirrels, do you know what gnome is?
[23:43] <walid-umar> join gorontalo
[23:43] <babu> lets try an other web browser
[23:43] <babu> what abt seamonkey
[23:43] <Flannel> babu: Unless you give us the appropriate information, we cannot help you with your problem.
[23:43] <Jensit> As me pointet out? ;)
[23:43] <pooltable> help upgrade LibreOffice how to ?
[23:43] <astraljava> gogeta: Better to let one guy take it from here, several different solutions will just confuse anyone in here. :)
[23:43] <wslayer> babu: download chrome it's the best
[23:43] <usr13> squirrels: http://distrowatch.com/  In the Distribution box, click it and choose.
[23:44] <babu> lol,,plz guide me easy kob
[23:44] <babu> sorry job
[23:44] <Magic_Hobo> just run sudo apt-get update
[23:44] <gogeta> babu: yea just focus on flannel
[23:44] <babu> realy
[23:44] <coldpizza72i> im having trouble with the guest os recognze a usb flash drive..any ideas?
[23:44] <babu> give me url
[23:44] <coldpizza72i> in virtual box
[23:44] <usr13> squirrels: http://distrowatch.com/  In the Distribution box, click it and choose, then click refresh.  Read ...
[23:44] <gogeta> babu: he will get you fixed up
[23:44] <squirrels> usr13: thanks, i guess
[23:45] <qin> babu: Open terminal
[23:45] <usr13> squirrels: Your welcome, I guess.
[23:45] <Ycarene> Is there a way to get acidrip to use libdvdnav?
[23:45] <tjiggi_fo> squirrels, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment#Desktop_environments_for_the_X_Window_System
[23:45] <noah1989>  just realized that current vmware player even lets you create virtual machines ..
[23:45] <babu> an other day,few hour ago i reach at home before that i was in long drive travelling ,,zhooooooooooooooooooooooooo u knw mind  sounds like that
[23:45] <noah1989> btw, it works like a charm under ubuntu
[23:46] <pooltable> never mine just look it up still in beta format final version will be out at the end of july
[23:47] <babu> plz nt to tell anybody i m the person made many changes in hardware  network devices just to point out wanders by phone or email,but coulple f day i decided to use
[23:47] <babu> linux i m thinking myself
[23:47] <wslayer> o.o
[23:47] <gogeta> babu: its cool we just had to many trying to help at once why i said let flannel guide you
[23:47] <babu> it is very nessasary for evrybody on globe
[23:48] <adel> hello
[23:48] <gogeta> babu: i think you need to enable your extra repos
[23:48] <qin> Sweet, but still feel suicidal.
[23:48] <qin> gogeta: gdebi is main
[23:48] <babu> yea thanks u and flannel but today the fay of headache u knw
[23:48] <gogeta> qin: oh thats bad
[23:49] <gogeta> qin: maybe hes using a bad mirror
[23:49] <Jensit> back
[23:49] <Flannel> gogeta: His repositories are misconfigured.
[23:49] <gogeta> Flannel: agreed
[23:49] <babu> gogeta what about u,would u please be my friend
[23:49] <qin> !u | babu
[23:50] <gogeta> babu: do the commands flannel says and we can sort out whats going on
[23:50] <pooltable> help with a web site that find the music artist and cd cover i forgot the name saw it on tv
[23:50] <gogeta> babu: are you using 11.04 or a very old relese
[23:51] <babu> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050405 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2)
[23:51] <Jensit> Flannel, just tried to install opera via rightclick on the deb file and run with software centre... it worked.... dunno whats wrong with babus'
[23:51] <qin> pooltable: musicbrainz ?
[23:52] <qin> babu: Command: lsb_release -a
[23:52] <Flannel> Jensit: His repositories are misconfigured.  This has been apparent since he couldn't install gdebi, everyone who is telling him to try other methods or a different browser is just confusing him moreso.
[23:52] <coldpizza72i> does anyone know what might be the problem thats preventing my usb device from showing up in my vbox guest os
[23:52] <wslayer> i install deb with three clicks
[23:53] <wslayer> linux has really evolved
[23:53] <Jensit> Flannel: Okay ;)
[23:53] <babu> :~$ command lsb release -a
[23:53] <babu> bash: lsb: command not found
[23:53] <gogeta> babu: lsb_release -a
[23:53] <qin> babu: Command: lsb_release -a USE _
[23:53] <gogeta> qin: he probly copys everything you typed
[23:53] <kayque> tdb
[23:53] <babu> Command: lsb_release -a USE _
[23:54] <gogeta> babu: no command :
[23:54] <pooltable> qin not sure it finds cover art and fix missing title or mis spelled titile i saw it on tv
[23:54] <qin> gogeta: No, he skipped backquote before and now underline
[23:54] <Jensit> babu: the command means that you shall run it in a terminal ;)
[23:54] <Flannel> babu: Copy the following: `lsb_release -a`
[23:54] <kwtm2> What is a nice simple web server I can set up on my Ubuntu desktop so that other computers (like my wife's iPad) can access files on the desktop via the LAN?  I remember something called LightHTTP or something, that was supposed to be easier to set up than a full Apache server.  I don't plan to expose it to the world-wide Internet outside our home LAN.
[23:54] <babu> bash:: command not found
[23:55] <gogeta> babu: lsb_release -a
[23:55] <babu> lsb_release -a
[23:55] <gogeta> there you go
[23:55] <babu> yes thanx
[23:55] <babu>  lsb_release -a
[23:55] <babu> LSB Version:    n/a
[23:55] <babu> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[23:55] <babu> Description:    Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog Release)
[23:55] <babu> Release:        5.04
[23:55] <babu> Codename:       hoary
[23:55] <FloodBot1> babu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:55] <KM0201> you gotta be kidding me!
[23:55] <gogeta> babu: yea dont do that but question answerd your relese is way out of date
[23:56] <ParadigmUltra|2> how strange... When I drag windows onto my third virtual desktop I lose the ability to grab the window's toolbar and press some buttons, but when I drag it back to another  vtitual desktop it works fine
[23:56] <qin> Neat!
[23:56] <Jensit> 5.04? where you got that image from? ^^
[23:56] <babu> excuse me ?nt use enter
[23:56] <KM0201> !pastebin | babalu_
[23:56] <gogeta> babu: dont past multi lines in irc
[23:56] <KM0201> babu: see above.
[23:56] <need> need
[23:56] <need> help
[23:56] <gogeta> babu: we use pastbin for that
[23:56] <KM0201> been a while since i saw soemone using 5.04.. that is AWESOME!
[23:57] <KM0201> i can't believe he just now experienced a problem.. babu how long have you had this installed?
[23:57] <wslayer> now i'm thinking to give a try to ubuntu 0.1
[23:57] <gogeta> babu: yea your going to need to reinstall using a newer relese
[23:57] <gogeta> babu: your very very out of date
[23:57] <need> need
[23:57] <need> help
[23:57] <qin> KM0201: Need to save logs from it.
[23:57] <babu> gogeta my dear how can i online update it or download,,
[23:57] <rww> !ask | need
[23:57] <KM0201> qin: lol
[23:57] <rww> !download | babu
[23:57] <gogeta> babu: from ubuntu website
[23:57] <need> well if i move windows#
[23:57] <need> to the border
[23:57] <babu> yea i knw its very old i have cd
[23:58] <need> they maximize on the other virtual desktop
[23:58] <pooltable> qin MusicBrainz Picard is that what tou mean ?
[23:58] <KM0201> babu: updating it online, would take HOURS.. because it is so old.. to get it current, you would be better of downloading a new version and clean installing
[23:58] <gogeta> babu: its not old its end of life no longer supported or worked on
[23:58] <rww> need: as the bot said, "all on ONE line"
[23:58] <babu> nt rpm ,iso,plz online
[23:58] <qin> pooltable: I think so, amarok uses this service.
[23:58] <gogeta> babu: its like winning windows 3.1
[23:58] <babu> tellme just online
[23:58] <babu> if its posible
[23:58] <gogeta> running
[23:58] <pooltable> i do i set amarok to do that ?
[23:58] <KM0201> babu: truth be told, i'm guessing you'd run into epic errors trying to go from 5.04, to a current release.
[23:58] <gogeta> babu: what install just oiline?
[23:58] <pooltable> qin
[23:58] <babu> oh yea i see
[23:59] <need> to the border
[23:59] <need> well if i move windows#
[23:59] <need> they maximize on the other virtual desktop
[23:59] <qin> pooltable: Do not remember too well, but it has plugins.
[23:59] <gogeta> babu: as long as you have a cdr or a sd card reader ubuntu is easy to install
[23:59] <need> well if i move windows#