=== `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [01:57] Hi Folks. I just ran some updates and one of them rearranged my grub.conf file. Does anyone know if it backed up the old one somewhere? [02:05] Better question. Is there a way to impose a custom grub.conf file that won't be overwritten by updates in the future? [02:08] I'll brb [02:50] any suggestions? [04:45] hello, I am reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1619831, I need block internet access completly if vpn down, any idea? [04:45] i am unable to login to xfce. when i enter my correct password with capslock of it appears to accept it, the window disappears showing only the background screen/login wallpaper, then it flickers black and asks for my password again. i have tried sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg and freeing up space in my home partition to 8gb but none of this worked. how can i fix this? [04:55] i am unable to login to xfce. after entering my correct password with caps lock off it appears to take it and the login popup disappears showing only the login background/wallpaper, then the screen flickers black and the popup reappears askign for the password again but not mentioning an auth failure as it does when i type it incorrectly. i am using the same password to use this tty. i have tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, freeing up 8gb of space on [05:23] my niece installed ubuntu 1010 but is having issue that she cannot type into any textareas (including) address bar. i searched for this issue on google can't find anything. anybody familiar with this? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [09:01] hello [09:04] anyone here ? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [16:17] someone has an idea of webservers? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === tsimpson_ is now known as ts2 [19:37] I signed up for the mailing list but never received a confirmation email [19:37] is the mailing list working ? [19:42] hi [19:47] first time on xubuntu; am trying to do sth with contrast on an old laptop; my hardware controls for brightness work, yet i need to change contrast; tried to look for some knobs in settings (didnt find anything); tried gxvattr (cant use it), tried display calibrator (gui to xgamma - doesnt work for me); any other options? [19:48] I know /nothing/ about displays. Try #xfce or #ubuntu [19:48] or wait for a while and see if somebody knows [19:48] Yeah [19:49] sure... thx [19:50] on two separate computer Xubuntu 11.04 shows two volume meters in panel - any ideas? [19:51] Is it the "mixer" applet? You can just right-click and remove those, not sure about the other one though [19:51] settings → sessions and startup → autostart → take off tap from sound/pulseaudio/something [19:53] that works, thanks [19:53] XFCE works much better than Gnome on my 800MHz NetBook === ochosi_ is now known as ochosi [20:24] any top secret plans for Xubuntu 11.10 ? [20:24] will XFCE be updated for this release? [20:24] probably not, since we only just got 4.8 for 11.04 [20:25] my only complaint about current XFCE 4.8 is that items on panels can't be placed anywhere on the panel [20:28] they can't? [20:28] really? on my previous distro (which ran xfce) items could be moved around on panels [20:28] I mean, unless you're talking about "floaters" [20:28] in which case, it makes sense. The ends do not meet the required means [20:29] also, if you tell me more about what you want [20:29] I could try and hack it together [20:29] well for example: I like the clock to be in center of a panel - but when I add clock to panel it defaults to the left side and can't be moved to center [20:30] have to use spacers to get clock to center [20:30] you can move it just fine [20:32] JeZ-l-Lee_: hmm, ok, soryr, that was in 4.6 [20:33] 4.6 allowed items on panel to be moved anywhere on panel ? - why was this feature taken away in 4.8 ? [20:34] JeZ-l-Lee_: I remember that I could do it as some point and that it was very annoying [20:37] I think allowing panel items to be placed anywhere on the panel is a good feature [20:37] allows for more flexible customization [20:37] you can still do it, with spacers [20:42] happy fourth everyone! [20:53] xfce 4.10 is scheduled for release in january 2012, so we can expect it to arrive in the new LTS [20:54] i don't want to be killjoy or too negative, but that schedule might very well be postponed :) [20:56] I have faith in every wiki article I have edited [20:56] :) [20:57] is it too early to upgrade to 4.10 beta on Xubuntu 11.04 ? [20:57] is there a PPA for it? [20:58] I did upgrade xfce-panel on my 11.04 to the xfce-panel on 11.10 alpha [20:59] which allows for window buttons to be rearranged [21:05] I like XFCE - it works mostly like classic Gnome - and it does not take much resources [21:06] yeah, "no surprises" should be the motto [21:06] except that sometimes there are some surprises leaking from gnome :( [21:36] anyway to make window titlebars semi-transparent ? [21:36] I miss this feature in Gnome [21:40] see window manager tweaks, compositing [21:54] hello is there anyway for me to save all the PPAs i have in the software sources? im going to delete this distro that im running and wipe the hdd [21:55] Mandrew, they should be listed in /etc/apt/sources.list afaik [21:55] so its just to copy past that back into my new install? [21:56] yup, and after that 'sudo apt-get update' :) [21:56] (or update from synaptic) [21:56] please check first if the PPA's really are at that file though :) [21:56] they can also be in files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [21:57] wherever they are, it is just a matter of copy+paste [21:57] Sysi, are you on the devel ML? [21:58] nope [21:58] ok thanks [21:58] Sysi, oki [21:58] I'm not very good with mail [21:58] heh [21:59] well you can check my latest msg in the archives and tell me if you are interested anyway :) [22:02] Mandrew: you have to copy the lines from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ AND add the keys again after the install [22:03] elros, how do i do that? [22:03] or just use 'sudo apt-add-repository REPOSITORY_URL' [22:03] you can do it by sudo apt-key add ssh_key.key, where ssh_key.key contains the signing key for the repo [22:03] elros, ^ that should do it as well [22:03] just adding lines should works, at least apt just asks next time you're using it [22:04] * Sysi always done PPAs manually [22:04] elros, i got like 30+ repos that i want to reinstall again so i was thinking of going a as easy way as possible [22:05] you can save them manually by going to launchpad PPA, click "technical details" and save the signing key file [22:05] the easiest is to add them with that apt-add-repo command [22:06] then you have a separate file for every repo you add [22:06] I like to have them in a single file [22:07] ok [22:07] you can install packages from unsigned repos, but ubuntu wants to confirm every package install [22:08] ok [22:09] a lot to wrap my head around :D im just a newbie ;) [22:10] ok, then learn sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa and forget about what I said :) [22:10] hehe [22:10] I don't really know about gui client but adding lines to sources.list and then apt-get update ; install has always just worked [22:11] in synaptic you can use the software sources [22:35] I'm probably not the only person here who left Gnome and regular Ubuntu for XFCE on Xubuntu [22:37] Gnome 2.x was great, but Gnome 3/Unity are just terrible [22:37] I actually like gnome3 quite much, I hated old gnome [22:38] something mixing unity/gnome3 would be perfect [22:38] I'm propably still going back to xfce on my desktop [22:39] XFCE is very similar to classic Gnome 2.x [22:39] not in the parts I like in xfce [22:45] I just hope XFCE does not become another KDE [22:46] tried KDE, made me feel ill [22:47] How is xubuntu pronounced? [22:47] subuntu, zubuntu? [22:47] "X"+ubuntu [22:48] Okay, thanks. [22:48] just a guess [22:48] lol [22:48] perhaps someone else here knows [22:50] I make open-source cross-platform games for Windows and Linux: www.16BitSoft.com [22:51] "zoobuntu" tends to be the most used === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [23:32] lol there's a program called gigolo on here. [23:35] yes. [23:36] That is funny. [23:38] what does Gigolo do ? [23:38] connect/mount to networks [23:39] sounds sexy [23:39] That's why it's called gigolo. [23:40] on on my NetBook now - here is photo of my Xubuntu 11.04 desktop: http://16bitsoft.com/images/MyXubuntuDesktop-NetBook01.png [23:41] top of screen is actually 3 panels [23:49] I figured out how to make window titlebars transparent, but am wondering how to make them fuzzy like Windows(R) Aero style [23:58] ls [23:58] lol, ls... bleh [23:59] guys, wanna change gdm background on xubuntu.. information on the site seems not working [23:59] it says link /usr/share/applications/gnome-appearahce stuff to somewhere in gdm things. but the file earlier is non existent