[09:23] <Quintasan> Good morning
[09:32] <didrocks> hey Quintasan 
[09:32] <didrocks> debfx: ScottK: seems the qt branch moved to ~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qt, isn't it?
[09:33] <Quintasan> didrocks: Yup, we did a move to keep the naming consistent
[09:33] <didrocks> Quintasan: ok, would have been nice to have been warned about it for comaintainance, but it's fine :)
[09:34] <Quintasan> didrocks: I guess you are not subscribed to kubuntu-devel mailing list
[09:34] <didrocks> Quintasan: no, I have already enough mailing list TBH ;)
[09:35] <didrocks> but we kind of agree with ScottK that pinging on IRC was enough (even if last week, I was quite unavailable due to our rally)
[09:35] <apachelogger> woosh
[09:36] <apachelogger> I wonder why yofel did only send that to kubuntu-devel
[09:36] <Quintasan> Blame apachelogger for that
[09:41] <didrocks> :)
[09:42] <didrocks> so sni-qt should be moved as well, I guess?
[09:42] <didrocks> not sure if it makes sense for kubuntu to have it as well
[09:43] <apachelogger> fixed
[09:44] <apachelogger> didrocks: is it a packaging-only branch?
[09:45] <didrocks> apachelogger: it's a merge-upstream like branch, so contain sources (derived from upstream branch) + debian/ directory
[09:45] <apachelogger> Sput: on a related note, did you look into sni-qt to replace your own sni code?
[09:45] <apachelogger> didrocks: then there is no reason for it to be in packaging IMHO
[09:45] <didrocks> apachelogger: ok, so let's keep it that way
[09:46] <Sput> apachelogger: not yet, no
[09:46] <apachelogger> packaging only ought to contain packaging-only branches, branches that have a strong relation with an existing launchpad project/src import still have a reason to exist :)
[09:47] <Sput> apachelogger: isn't that a patch for Qt itself?
[09:47] <didrocks> apachelogger: ok, so ~kubuntu-packager/qt/ubuntu for now
[09:47] <apachelogger> Sput: I think it is a plugin of sorts
[09:47] <didrocks> Sput: there is a patch for Qt, and a plugin
[09:47] <didrocks> opss
[09:47] <didrocks> ~kubuntu-packager/sni-qt/ubuntu
[09:47] <Sput> apachelogger: yeah but aiui, you need to patch Qt first to make it pluggable
[09:47] <apachelogger> didrocks: right :)
[09:47] <Sput> so that's nothing we can use
[09:47] <apachelogger> Sput: ah, I see
[09:48] <didrocks> Sput: seems it will be integrated in next Qt merge window 
[09:48] <Sput> at least not before requiring Qt 4.8 (or did it make it into 4.7?)
[09:48] <didrocks> (the patch to Qt)
[09:48] <didrocks> no, it didn't, even 4.8 is too late
[09:48] <Sput> there won't be a Qt 4.9
[09:48] <bambee> morning
[09:48] <didrocks> apachelogger: btw, I'm changeing the Vcs-Bzr tag for qt
[09:48] <Sput> and I don't think we'll depend on Qt5 anytime soon :)
[09:48] <apachelogger> didrocks: thx
[10:07] <didrocks> fabo: what's your pick on removing libqt4-sql-sqlite2 package?
[10:07] <didrocks> fabo: there is some intention of getting rid of sqlite2 in ubuntu, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sqlite/+bug/747325
[10:25] <didrocks> Quintasan: in rev 164 or Qt, you remove debian/patches/kubuntu_26_dbusconnection_pointer.diff, with as a title "removed patches which wen upstream according to Qt developers at UDS"
[10:25] <didrocks> Quintasan: for this patch however, it's upstream in Qt 4.8, not 4.7
[10:26] <Quintasan> didrocks: ddenis told us it's safe to remove that :s
[10:26] <didrocks> Quintasan: I'll readd it though, it's needed for the new dconf-qt binding
[10:26] <didrocks> no worry :)
[10:26] <didrocks> just so that you are not surprised of seeing it back  ;)
[10:27] <didrocks> I see little chance we can go with 4.8 for oneiric, unfortunately :/
[11:41] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ping
[11:46] <apachelogger> pogo
[11:51] <bambee> shadeslayer: what's about kcfg btw ? did you find what you were looking for ?
[11:52] <bambee> :)
[12:13]  * yofel blames apachelogger for not checking recipients too.
[12:13] <yofel> Sorry though.
[12:51] <apachelogger> Nightrose: ping
[12:51] <Nightrose> apachelogger: pong
[12:52] <apachelogger> I spammed you a preview request for blog posty posty, if you get a chance it would be cool if you could take a look at it :)
[12:52] <apachelogger> low-tech intro blahblah
[12:53] <Nightrose> apachelogger: i'm at work for a few more hours
[12:53] <apachelogger> k, no hurry
[12:57] <Quintasan> apachelogger: another ping
[12:57] <apachelogger> syn-ack
[12:57] <Quintasan> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/91669
[12:57] <apachelogger> rst
[12:58] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Am I doing library packaging right or wrong?
[12:58] <Quintasan> or horribly wrong?
[12:58] <Quintasan> inb4 symbols
[13:01] <apachelogger> well, hard to say with just the control file :P
[13:01] <apachelogger> Quintasan: the dev package ought to depend on the library packages
[13:01] <apachelogger> and you should make sure the libraries do not require stuff from the data package at runtime
[13:02] <apachelogger> for gluonengine you'd probably want a >= source:version or binary:version
[13:02] <apachelogger> on the libs
[13:02] <apachelogger> for -dev too for that matter
[13:02] <apachelogger> for the packages deping on libgluoncore0 too
[13:03] <apachelogger> rule of thumb: packages from the same source package usually should have some sort of versioned dep depending on the source or package version to prevent partial upgrade issues
[13:04] <apachelogger> also, while I am at it :P
[13:04] <apachelogger> Maintainer: Michał Zając <quintasan@kubuntu.org>
[13:04] <apachelogger> I think control fiels are restricted to ASCII by policy
[13:05] <Quintasan> So I am bound to be Michal Zajac?
[13:05] <apachelogger> ah na
[13:05] <apachelogger> only the field name is bound to ascii
[13:06] <apachelogger>  The field name is composed of printable ASCII characters (i.e., characters that have values between 33 and 126, inclusive) except colon and must not with a begin with #
[13:06] <apachelogger> All control files must be encoded in UTF-8.
[13:06] <apachelogger> no further restrictions
[13:06] <apachelogger> also there is a typo in the manual
[13:06] <apachelogger> zomg
[13:06] <apachelogger> <-- to lazy to report
[13:09] <Quintasan> apachelogger: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/packaging.tar.bz2
[13:09] <Quintasan> Please check this
[13:09] <ScottK> How's KDE 4.7 packaging going?
[13:09] <ScottK> maco: Any luck on the keyboard crash thingy?
[13:09] <apachelogger> JT apparently got lost playing minewars or what's its name
[13:13]  * Quintasan will get to that when apachelogger reviews his Gluon magic
[13:13] <apachelogger> Package: gluonengine
[13:13] <apachelogger> Architecture: any
[13:13] <apachelogger> Depends: libgluonaudio0 (>= ${source:Version}),
[13:13] <apachelogger> are you sure it is only source?
[13:14] <apachelogger> like does it link against it?
[13:14] <apachelogger> if so it is binary not source
[13:14] <apachelogger> Package: gluon-games
[13:14] <apachelogger> Architecture: any
[13:14] <apachelogger> Depends: gluonengine, gluonplayer, ${misc:Depends}, ${shlibs:Depends}
[13:14] <apachelogger> missing deps
[13:14] <apachelogger> eh
[13:14] <apachelogger> versions
[13:14] <apachelogger> gluoncreator too
[13:14] <apachelogger> Package: libgluoninput0
[13:14] <apachelogger> Architecture: any
[13:14] <apachelogger> Depends: libgluoncore0 (>= ${source:Version}),
[13:14] <apachelogger> that is definitely binary along with all the other libs
[13:15] <apachelogger> oh
[13:15] <apachelogger> come to think of it
[13:15] <apachelogger> Quintasan: why is it called libgluon-data and not gluon-data?
[13:15] <apachelogger> libgluon-dev still misses deps on the libs
[13:15] <Quintasan> wrap-and-sort--
[13:15] <apachelogger> typo
[13:15] <Quintasan> It must have eaten them
[13:15] <apachelogger> "devlopment"
[13:16] <apachelogger> gluonplayer's advanced advanced description probably exceeds 80 chars/line
[13:16] <apachelogger> Homepage: http://gluon.tuxfamily.org/
[13:17] <apachelogger> I thought gluon lives on gaminfreedom or something?
[13:17] <Quintasan> It odes
[13:17] <Quintasan> does*
[13:17] <apachelogger> your copyright file has mixture of tab and spaces to indent the copyright holders
[13:17] <apachelogger> also I think your dep5 is invalid
[13:18] <apachelogger> IIRC there must not be a newline before the license field, otherwise the paragraph will be licenseless
[13:19] <apachelogger> that said, what you can do is License: Foo and then have a sepearate paragraph that just contains "License: Foo\n description blah blah\n more description"
[13:19]  * ScottK wonders why we care?
[13:19] <apachelogger> license ought to be LGPL-2.1+ btw
[13:19] <apachelogger> ScottK: the parser
[13:19] <ScottK> So?
[13:19] <apachelogger> Format: http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/dep/web/deps/dep5.mdwn?view=markup&pathrev=174
[13:19] <ScottK> I'm familiar with it.
[13:19] <apachelogger> if you tell the parser this file complies with the spec then it better does so
[13:20] <apachelogger> ScottK: no, no, note the Format:
[13:20] <ScottK> So don't tell it that.
[13:20] <apachelogger> my point exactly :P
[13:20] <apachelogger> either you write valid dep5 or you do not denote it as such
[13:20] <ScottK> Just about the last thing we need is making filling out debian/copyright harder.
[13:20] <apachelogger> in which case you can still follow the spec but as you please rather than as it defines ^^
[13:20] <ScottK> Right, so just ignore dep5 entirely.
[13:20] <apachelogger> ScottK: well, you could write a gui for it with dep5 :P
[13:21] <ScottK> or I could spend my time doing something useful.
[13:21] <apachelogger> or cli for that matter
[13:22] <Quintasan> This DEP5 is totally...meh
[13:22] <apachelogger> Quintasan: gluon engines contains public libs?
[13:22] <Quintasan> No idea.
[13:23] <Quintasan> Since it's a library used to create games I guess it does
[13:24] <apachelogger> nono
[13:24] <apachelogger> my point being
[13:24] <apachelogger> usr/lib/libGluonEngine.so.*
[13:24] <apachelogger> that is a public lib so the package should be libgluonengine0
[13:24] <apachelogger> also
[13:25] <apachelogger> BROTIP: *.so should be in a -dev package UNLESS there is no *.so.* or the .so is no link in which case it is a proper lib and not material for -dev
[13:27] <Quintasan> I do not have *.so anywhere in install files
[13:28] <apachelogger> core0.install:
[13:28] <apachelogger> usr/lib/libGluonCore.so
[13:28] <apachelogger> usr/lib/libGluonCore.so.*
[13:28] <apachelogger> audio0.install:
[13:28] <apachelogger> usr/lib/libGluonAudio.so
[13:28] <apachelogger> usr/lib/libGluonAudio.so.*
[13:29] <apachelogger> graphics0.install:
[13:29] <apachelogger> usr/lib/libGluonGraphics.so
[13:29] <apachelogger> usr/lib/libGluonGraphics.so.*
[13:29] <apachelogger> .....
[13:29] <Quintasan> Are you implying I should put it in -dev?
[13:29] <apachelogger> yes
[13:29] <apachelogger> that is what the BROTIP sez
[13:29] <apachelogger> Quintasan: how was skateboarding btw?
[13:29] <Quintasan> then libgluon{input,graphics,audio,etc}0 is not neccessary?
[13:30] <apachelogger> read again
[13:30] <apachelogger> BROTIP: *.so should be in a -dev package UNLESS there is no *.so.* or the .so is no link in which case it is a proper lib and not material for -dev
[13:30] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I'm still not able to walk
[13:30] <apachelogger> lol
[13:30] <apachelogger> good
[13:30] <apachelogger> more work then!
[13:30] <apachelogger> muhahahaha
[13:30] <Quintasan> usr/lib/libGluonGraphics.so is not a link AFAIC
[13:31] <Quintasan> How the hell I am supposed to determine whether it is or not?
[13:32] <apachelogger> look at it? :P
[13:32] <apachelogger> + it most certainly is if there is a .so.x.x for the lib
[13:32] <apachelogger> (not always though)
[13:32] <Quintasan> So I should move usr/lib/libGluonGraphics.so
[13:33] <Quintasan> usr/lib/libGluonGraphics.so.* to -dev
[13:33] <Quintasan> and so on for the other stuff
[13:33] <Quintasan> that will make those packages empty :O
[13:33] <apachelogger> no
[13:33] <apachelogger> dude
[13:33] <apachelogger> BROTIP: *.so should be in a -dev package UNLESS there is no *.so.* or the .so is no link in which case it is a proper lib and not material for -dev
[13:33] <apachelogger> where do I say *.so.* should go into -dev?
[13:33] <Quintasan> hurp durp
[13:33] <Quintasan> K
[13:34] <apachelogger> oh, this just depressed me
[13:35] <Quintasan> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/91711 -> libgluon-dev.install
[13:35] <Quintasan> I am doing it right.
[13:35] <Quintasan> Otherwise, throw bricks
[13:40] <apachelogger> looks good
[13:40] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I guess I just fixed all that you mentioned, anything else?
[13:40] <apachelogger> no
[13:41]  * Quintasan goes to #debian-qt-kde
[13:48] <bambee> Is it correct ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/638431/
[13:57] <apachelogger> bambee: correct in what way?
[13:58] <bambee> apachelogger: Does this copyright contain an error ?
[14:06] <apachelogger> bambee: an error in what way?
[14:07] <apachelogger> the only way copyright can be wrong is by not being complete or listing people who do not have copyright or by noting wrong licenses
[14:07] <apachelogger> neither of which I can check :P
[14:19] <Quintasan> apachelogger: fix kgetsource so it uses new packaging branches
[14:22] <Quintasan> apachelogger: nvm
[14:25] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I fixed it
[14:25] <bambee> apachelogger: ok
[14:29] <CIA-52> [kubuntu-default-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705142930-wf3cfuoce0cmv3dl * (2 files in 2 dirs) Remove quickaccess widget from plasma init script
[14:38] <shadeslayer> bambee: i used a QHash <QString, QString> serialized the data using a QDataStream, wrote the stream into a QByteArray and wrote the QBA using KConfigGroup::write() :P
[14:39] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you have a formatting error there
[14:39] <apachelogger> it is tpl<t, t> not tpl <t, t>
[14:40] <apachelogger> also what are you storing that way?
[14:45] <CIA-52> [kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705144530-dtx2kidiwv5k0eyq * bin/kgetsource merge
[14:46] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ping
[14:46] <apachelogger> Quintasan: ping
[14:46] <apachelogger> yofel: ping
[14:46] <apachelogger> bambee: ping
[14:46] <shadeslayer> pong
[14:46] <Quintasan> apachelogger: pong
[14:46]  * Quintasan has to go in a bit
[14:47]  * shadeslayer might pull a rodrigo any moment
[14:47] <apachelogger> what are you working on?
[14:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: had to get my documents in order for my visa application
[14:47] <shadeslayer> involves running to and fro to the college
[14:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ssup with the ping?
[14:48] <apachelogger> well
[14:48] <apachelogger> as you probably do not know
[14:48] <apachelogger> alpha2 is supposed to be released this week
[14:49] <apachelogger> seing as rc1 is not done that makes me a bit, erm, worrid
[14:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: question is, do we want rc1 in the alpha ?
[14:49] <shadeslayer> we have yet to test it
[14:50] <apachelogger> I reckon a alpha is meant to be tested
[14:50] <apachelogger> otherwise one would not bother releasing non-production quality sofware :P
[14:51] <shadeslayer> i just don't think its a good idea if we rush it, thats all
[14:51] <shadeslayer> there are only a couple of packages left on the wiki
[14:51] <apachelogger> so we should get them done
[14:52]  * Quintasan has to head out
[14:52] <shadeslayer> sure, i can work on some of them after dinner
[14:52] <Quintasan> I'll be back like in 4 hours so I'll start working
[14:52] <Quintasan> kdetoys are on dep wait
[14:52] <Quintasan> kdenetwork still awaits response from Kopete
[14:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i'm also having a hard time figuring out ubiquity and python plasma kpart
[14:54] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: see, my point is that this is not particularly important right now
[14:54] <shadeslayer> right, which is why i haven't worked on it one bit, just searched for docs 
[14:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: anyways, get RC1 done -> top priority
[15:12] <CIA-52> [kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705151247-tdug1nn0qd1dfsem * (10 files in 4 dirs) * Initial release (moved out of kdegraphics) * Repacked upstream source to include copies of LGPL and GPL
[15:15] <apachelogger> Quintasan: why is kdenetwork waiting?
[15:15] <apachelogger> that does not compute
[15:15] <apachelogger> ah, missing symbols
[15:15] <apachelogger> just dont package kopete :P
[15:41] <bambee> apachelogger: pong
[15:42] <CIA-52> [kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705154201-np2atqp4av6f2g4m * debian/control add missing deps and transitional package
[15:42] <CIA-52> [kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705154220-xf0xpxhuff79u12t * debian/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer.install whoops, forgot to add an install file for the primary package
[15:42] <apachelogger> bambee: what are you working on right now?
[15:43] <bambee> apachelogger: libexiv2 to solve the build failure for kdeplasma-addons
[15:43] <bambee> libkexiv2 I mean
[15:43] <bambee> (required by kde-sc-dev-lastest)
[15:43] <apachelogger> any problems there?
[15:43] <bambee> except a build failure ... no
[15:43] <bambee> why?
[15:44] <CIA-52> [kdegraphics-thumbnailers] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705154420-avl4ucwxfnqptt3b * (10 files in 4 dirs) * Initial release (moved out of kdegraphics) * Repack upstream source to contain copies of GPL and LGPL
[15:44] <bambee> I did something wrong ?
[15:45] <apachelogger> bambee: just checking
[15:45] <apachelogger> ...if you need help with anything
[15:48] <bambee> apachelogger: In fact, pkgkde-symbolhelpers does not work, I ask it to update symbols for libkexiv2 and NOTHING is updated
[15:49] <bambee> actually I build it with debuild, then I use the following command : pkgkde-symbolshelper patch -p libkexiv2-10 -v 4:4.6.90 < ../libkexiv2_4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa1_amd64.build
[15:49] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyn41Zjz3sk
[15:49]  * apachelogger packages away
[15:49] <apachelogger> oh gosh
[15:49] <apachelogger> ok, that dub is just horrible
[15:49] <apachelogger> I am sorry
[15:49] <bambee> the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/638464/  <--- WTF ?
[15:50] <bambee> then if I try to build again the symbols are NOT UPDATED
[15:50] <apachelogger> bambee: do you ahve this in a branch?
[15:51] <bambee> apachelogger: I can update the package rules to my lp... 
[15:51] <bambee> wait
[15:53] <CIA-52> [kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705155302-2e1aqw9lb317nywu * debian/control add libtiff builddep
[15:57] <bambee> apachelogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2
[15:57] <bambee> the package is not perfect yet but it's almost done
[15:58] <bambee> the problem is: I cannot update libkexiv2-10.symbols with pkgkde-symbolshelper 
[15:58] <CIA-52> [kdegraphics-thumbnailers] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705155812-gj9w3d1n4fje4i2s * debian/changelog +repack
[16:00] <apachelogger> bambee: does it not do anything?
[16:00]  * apachelogger has not updated symbol files in ages
[16:01] <bambee> apachelogger: see yourself http://paste.ubuntu.com/638464/
[16:01] <apachelogger> why yes, I reckon it is not supposed to print anything?
[16:01] <bambee> and when I try to build again the symbol file is definitively not updated, I see a "diff" on stdout
[16:02] <bambee> apachelogger: assuming it prints nothing, the build process should not compute a difference for the next build :)
[16:03] <apachelogger> well
[16:03] <apachelogger> you need to rebuild your source package :P
[16:04] <bambee> :P
[16:05] <bambee> debuild -S && debuild -j8 && pkgkde-symbolshelper :)
[16:06] <apachelogger> clearly the whole workflow surrounding symbols is flawed
[16:06]  * apachelogger puts on todo
[16:06] <apachelogger> bambee: you could just diff your symbols file against the one in bzr? :P
[16:06] <apachelogger> then you know whether it was updated or not
[16:07] <apachelogger> if there were any updates at all
[16:07] <apachelogger> also please paste an ls of your debian dir
[16:08] <CIA-52> [kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705160817-1whz5ht9q9j9msvx * debian/control fix dep name
[16:08] <bambee> apachelogger: found
[16:09] <bambee> the soname and the package name were not updated in the symbol file o_O  (I have renamed libkexiv2-9 to libkexiv2-10)
[16:10] <CIA-52> [kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705160956-7vd4mxequz2bcr5j * debian/control I am in a good mood, here is a long description
[16:12] <apachelogger> someone messed up :P
[17:25] <CIA-52> [kgamma] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705172528-wsb60of5cohpri2x * (10 files in 4 dirs) * Initial release (moved out of kdegraphics) * Repack upstream source to include copy of GPL2
[17:27]  * apachelogger pokes shadeslayer
[17:30] <bambee> apachelogger: could you create a branch "libkexiv2" into lp:kubuntu-packagers please ?
[17:31] <bambee> then I will propose a merge
[17:32] <apachelogger> >>> bzr push lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2
[17:32] <apachelogger> Created new branch.   
[17:32] <apachelogger> bambee: ^
[17:36] <apachelogger> bambee: don't forget to copy the .bzr-builder dir from an existing branch
[17:37] <bambee> apachelogger: I've not the rights for that
[17:37] <apachelogger> into your branch
[17:37] <apachelogger> ah
[17:37] <apachelogger> what?
[17:37] <apachelogger> I do not compute
[17:37] <apachelogger> bambee: you are creating a new branch, no?
[17:37] <bambee> yes for libkexiv2, it's already pushed into my repository and I would like to push it into kubuntu-packagers
[17:38] <bambee> so someone has to create this branch before
[17:38] <bambee> and then I will propose a merge (from my branch to kubuntu-packagers)
[17:38] <bambee> :)
[17:38] <bambee> apachelogger: do you compute now?
[17:39] <apachelogger> there is the new branch now
[17:39] <apachelogger> BUT
[17:39] <apachelogger> you should copy the .bzr-builder dir from an existing packaging branch
[17:39] <bambee> ok
[17:40] <apachelogger> e.g. cd libkexiv2 && cp -r ../ksnapshot/.bzr-builddeb && bzr add .bzr-builddeb && bzr ci
[17:40] <bambee> well, I am tired xD
[17:48] <CIA-52> [kgeography] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705174822-zq2867x5wrpyt84w * (12 files in 4 dirs) * Initial release (moved out of kdeedu) * Repack upstream source to include a copy of GPL2
[17:51] <bambee> merge proposal : https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2/+merge/66943
[17:51]  * apachelogger wonders where everyone is
[17:58] <CIA-52> [kgeography] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705175844-n40km43aaozp0qxf * debian/changelog Repack upstream source to include a copy of GPL2 and GFDL1.2
[18:00] <CIA-52> [kgeography] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705180023-6gzmm2meppjuxsgu * debian/changelog +repack kthxbai
[18:12] <CIA-52> [khangman] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705181222-tvyq9ijaue7xwd60 * (11 files in 4 dirs) Initial release (moved out of kdeedu)
[18:13] <apachelogger> bambee: do you want a PITA review with that?
[18:14] <bambee> what's a PITA review?
[18:14] <apachelogger> one done apachelogger style
[18:15] <apachelogger> one where you'd probably have to spend a whole day fixing stuff :P
[18:15] <apachelogger> lets just start :P
[18:15] <apachelogger> bambee: wrong: Vcs-Browser: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/libexiv2/ubuntu
[18:15] <apachelogger> also wrong: Vcs-Bzr: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/libexiv2/ubuntu
[18:15] <cpatrick08> i was reading the ninjas packing and i was  wondering what was taking so long on 4.7 beta1 beta2 comes out tomorrow
[18:16] <bambee> apachelogger: oh right
[18:17] <apachelogger> ohoh
[18:17] <apachelogger> cpatrick08: you are not helping, so naturally it takes longer
[18:18] <apachelogger> bambee: I see at least one file that has LGPL
[18:18] <apachelogger> how very rude
[18:18] <apachelogger> bambee: but there is no full copy of the LGPL
[18:18] <apachelogger> or maybe I just can't find it?
[18:19] <apachelogger> "Any other files in libkexiv2/* and tests/* are under the GNU General Public License, version 2 or later (GPL-2+)"
[18:19] <apachelogger> s/Any/All/g
[18:19] <kubotu> apachelogger meant: ""All other files in libkexiv2/* and tests/* are under the GNU General Public License, version 2 or later (GPL-2+)""
[18:19] <apachelogger> ?
[18:19] <apachelogger> sounds bette rIMHO
[18:20] <apachelogger> bambee: it would be cool if you could make debian/copyright not exceed 80 chars/line
[18:20]  * apachelogger is too lazy to resize his terminal :P
[18:20] <apachelogger> bambee: it would be good if you could add the brief license statements of LGPL/GPL to the copyright ifle
[18:20] <apachelogger> *file
[18:34] <CIA-52> [khangman] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705183412-4yz9yly2uilo2z6x * debian/control add libkdeedu-dev builddep
[18:36] <CIA-52> [khangman] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705183601-regumkh2u6lo6cjr * debian/changelog Repack upstream source to include a copy of FDL1.2
[18:52] <CIA-52> [kig] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705185209-z6g4u6ukz0y64k0q * (9 files in 4 dirs) Initial release (moved out of kdeedu)
[18:57] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[18:57] <_Groo_> any news on kde 4.7 for nautty?
[18:59] <apachelogger> _Groo_: help needed
[19:00] <_Groo_> apachelogger: yeah i can see in ninjas we have packages for oneiric
[19:01] <bambee> apachelogger: ok I fill fix the copyright
[19:01] <_Groo_> apachelogger: anyone working on any backports or i would be the first?
[19:01] <bambee> s/fill/will/
[19:01] <kubotu> bambee meant: "apachelogger: ok I will fix the copyright"
[19:01] <apachelogger> _Groo_: first we need oneiric!!!!! zomg
[19:01] <_Groo_> apachelogger: dont have time for both :D i rather help with natty packages
[19:02] <bambee> _Groo_: you have to split a LOT of packages and to rewrite everything :)
[19:02] <_Groo_> apachelogger: im making my weekly build of calligra AWS
[19:02] <_Groo_> bambee: yeah, lots of fun :)
[19:02] <bambee> and a lot of work :)
[19:02] <_Groo_> work = fun!
[19:02] <_Groo_> all fun in packages is work!
[19:03] <bambee> right
[19:03] <apachelogger> _Groo_: there will be no natty packages unless oneiric gets finished
[19:03] <_Groo_> apachelogger: ehehe ill start migrating base packages to nautty :D
[19:03] <_Groo_> like soprano, kdelibs, kdebase etc etc
[19:04] <_Groo_> those alone will keep me busy for a few days
[19:04] <apachelogger> perhaps I did not make myself clear, you should work on oneiric packages
[19:04] <_Groo_> btw as soon as calligra hits the streets im i a position to release nautty almost in the same day
[19:04] <apachelogger> alpha2 is due this week and we are not done
[19:05] <_Groo_> apachelogger: i DONT have a oneiric build in my machine
[19:05] <apachelogger> and somehow I feel we wont get done as motivation is falling into a big black hole
[19:05] <apachelogger> _Groo_: sudo pbuilder create --dist oneiric
[19:05] <_Groo_> apachelogger: whi motivation is falling? no more beer? oO
[19:06] <_Groo_> apachelogger: how many gigabytes that little command will throw at me?
[19:08] <apachelogger> <1
[19:08] <apachelogger> in fact <0.5
[19:09] <apachelogger> in fact < 0.2 I suppose
[19:09] <apachelogger> perhaps even <0.1
[19:11] <_Groo_> apachelogger: ok ok
[19:12] <CIA-52> [kig] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705191240-o0vblpbu8rw8sy9i * debian/changelog Repack upstream source to include copy of FLD1.2 and COPYING-CMAKE-SCRIPTS
[19:13] <CIA-52> [kig] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705191317-yzeoyog1ik9f5l8j * debian/rules phony tests anyone?
[19:13] <CIA-52> [kig] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705191326-mfz74qjnelu9z1rm * debian/copyright add copyright
[19:14] <CIA-52> [kig] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705191438-k8bihxy27zpmo76d * debian/control me be maintainer
[19:16] <CIA-52> [kig] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705191640-7ltz96ve95mpsswy * debian/changelog +repack kthxbai
[19:25] <CIA-52> [kiten] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705192532-e2s6upxzdavttia0 * (14 files in 4 dirs) Initial release (moved out of kdeedu)
[19:27] <jussi> its a Riddell! Hai Riddell!
[19:28] <Riddell> Hei jussi
[19:28] <jjesse> yay for Riddell
[19:29] <Riddell> oh good, you haven't forgotten about me :)
[19:30] <bambee> Riddell: hey ;)
[19:30] <jussi> Riddell: nah, we wouldnt do that :D
[19:35] <bambee> apachelogger: fixed
[19:46] <CIA-52> [kiten] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110705194645-a7fxikbdzmedkm3p * debian/copyright add copyright file
[20:04] <Quintasan_> clea
[20:04] <Quintasan_> ffs
[20:08] <Quintasan> yofel_: kdebase-workspace-dev (>= 4:4.6.90) any idea why it cannot be installed?
[20:09] <bambee> Quintasan: change it to kde-workspace-dev, it has been renamed
[20:09] <Quintasan> Oh
[20:11] <bambee> same thing for kdebase-runtime, it's kde-runtime now
[20:11] <bambee> just drop "base"
[20:26] <bambee> apachelogger: could you merge libkexiv2 ? should be okay now
[20:26] <apachelogger> well
[20:26] <apachelogger> I am hanging out rright now
[20:26] <apachelogger> also drinking
[20:26] <apachelogger> Quintasan can
[20:27] <Quintasan> Certainly. I will look at it when I am done with parley
[20:27] <apachelogger> also kiten has broken abi
[20:27] <apachelogger> bstds
[20:33] <bambee> apachelogger: np
[20:43]  * Quintasan throws bricks at apachelogger
[20:43] <Quintasan> Y U NO COPYRIGHT IT KITEN?
[20:43] <apachelogger> Quintasan: wut?
[20:43] <apachelogger> I am working on kiten
[20:43] <apachelogger> it has missing interfaces
[20:43] <apachelogger> and we are not quite sure why it is packaged as public lib to begin with
[20:43] <apachelogger> completely moot
[20:43] <Quintasan> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kiten/files/head:/debian/
[20:44] <yofel_> apachelogger: late pong
[20:44] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Also, shouldn't we fc@#!%! decide on a sane copyright for packaging?
[20:44] <apachelogger> I am all sexed up
[20:44] <Quintasan> Should we go Copyright: 2011 Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.launchpad.net>?
[20:44] <apachelogger> nah, I like my copyright
[20:44] <Quintasan> Or just everyone claims it for himself?
[20:44] <apachelogger> :P
[20:45] <yofel> I did use kubuntu devels in copyright for our split packaging
[20:45]  * yofel looks what we're at
[20:45] <yofel> _Groo_: you could work on 4.6.5 if you don't want to work on oneiric
[20:46]  * Quintasan goes with GPLv3 for his licensing
[20:46] <Quintasan> packaging*
[20:46] <_Groo_> yofel: true... im gonna figure out what i can do this week, which is a little short on time
[20:48] <yofel> sure
[20:48] <Quintasan> apachelogger: libpkgs_gen_strict_local_shlibs = $(libpkgs_all_packages)
[20:48] <Quintasan> What is that doing?
[20:48] <apachelogger> being strict 
[20:49] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Explain further
[20:53] <_Groo_> guys, im having this error when building calligra git, but the lib is there: dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libkundo2.so.8 needed by debian/karbon/usr/lib/kde4/karbontools.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '').
[20:53] <_Groo_> and libkundo2.so.8 is right there in tmp/usr/lib/
[20:53] <_Groo_> so why cant it be found?
[20:53] <yofel> _Groo_: the file is in no .install file
[20:53] <_Groo_> yofel: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok
[20:53] <yofel> so it's not actually installed in any package
[20:54] <_Groo_> gotcha
[20:55] <_Groo_> tks
[20:57] <Quintasan> lol
[20:57] <Quintasan> Latest commit
[20:57] <Quintasan>  	5. me be maintainer
[20:57] <Quintasan> hurpdurp
[20:59] <yofel> fooey, kdeartwork has ~2050 files in list-missing
[21:01] <Quintasan> LOL
[21:01] <Quintasan> yofel: Have fun ^_^
[21:02] <Quintasan> apachelogger: fix EGL on iMX nao
[21:02] <apachelogger> Quintasan: come hang out with us on google_
[21:02] <apachelogger> + even
[21:02] <Quintasan> lol?
[21:03] <yofel> why should I use something that's like facebook but not facebook?
[21:03] <apachelogger> so you can have hangouts
[21:04] <yofel> hahah
[21:04] <Quintasan> How does one hangout on Google?
[21:05] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Add me
[21:06] <apachelogger> you should see me hang out
[21:06] <apachelogger> in your stream
[21:06] <KRF> do you have your hat on?
[21:06] <KRF> might join then
[21:07] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Can't see that
[21:07] <KRF> apropos, where's kde 4.7 for natty? 
[21:07] <KRF> apachelogger: work harder!
[21:07] <apachelogger> Quintasan: does you see me now?
[21:08] <apachelogger> KRF: I pulled like 5 packages today 
[21:08] <apachelogger> them other lazy bstds are too lazy
[21:08] <Quintasan> apachelogger: nope
[21:08] <apachelogger> Quintasan: what is your gmail addy?
[21:08] <KRF> btw, how is that neon thing supposed to work? when i install those project-neon-foo packages, do i get a new xsession entry for the KDE beta?
[21:08] <Quintasan> apachelogger: michal.zajac@gmail.com
[21:09] <Quintasan> KRF: Yes, you get a new session entry in KDM
[21:09] <apachelogger> you should have an invite somewhere
[21:09] <KRF> ah, cool
[21:09] <KRF> gonna try that, then
[21:09] <Quintasan> KRF: we install everything in /opt so it doesnt mess with your stable settings
[21:09] <KRF> ++
[21:10] <Quintasan> FFFFFFFFFFFF
[21:10]  * KRF .oO(imagines harald sitting nakkid in from of his computer hanging out with others)
[21:11] <apachelogger> under the table I am nakkid
[21:11] <KRF> uh, i don't want to imagine
[21:13] <apachelogger> lol, I know you do
[21:13] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Can you hear me?
[21:13] <apachelogger> no
[21:13] <apachelogger> also no seey seey
[21:13] <Quintasan> FCK
[21:15] <Quintasan> It works like shit here
[21:15] <Quintasan> or doesnt work at all
[21:16] <apachelogger> Quintasan: you have broken software
[21:16] <claydoh> ooh google+, another place where I probably will have few friends :D
[21:16] <_Groo_> can non official minnions have + invites too?
[21:16] <Quintasan> god damn :S
[21:17] <Quintasan> PULSEAUDIO--
[21:18] <Quintasan> OH GOD
[21:18] <Quintasan> JR as an security officer
[21:18] <apachelogger> rofl
[21:19] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I'll pass on that
[21:19] <Quintasan> Can't speak
[21:19] <Quintasan> damned pulse
[21:19] <apachelogger> Quintasan: pavucontrol helps
[21:20] <Quintasan> + it hangs every browser I have
[21:20] <Quintasan> :/
[21:21] <KRF> try lynx
[21:27] <apachelogger> Quintasan: chrome it
[21:29] <Quintasan> apachelogger: What are you drinking?
[21:29] <Quintasan> yofel: libkdeedu (>= 4:4.6.90) which is a virtual package. @_@
[21:30] <yofel> how about libkdeedu-dev?
[21:30] <yofel> libkdeedu doesn't exist
[21:30] <Quintasan> hmm
[21:31] <Quintasan> apachelogger: chroming it
[21:32] <apachelogger> Quintasan: should be goody enough
[21:35] <Quintasan> apachelogger: this stuff is fckd up
[21:36] <apachelogger> something must be broken on your end
[21:36] <Quintasan> I blame my fucking microphone
[21:38] <Quintasan> bleh
[21:38] <Quintasan> gotta try that tomorrow
[21:38] <KRF> in the good old days you didnt need a microphone to hang out :/
[21:40] <Quintasan> Parley's done, I'm going to bed
[21:40] <apachelogger> KRF: you need to know a language though
[21:40] <apachelogger> that sucks
[21:40] <apachelogger> if parley is not packaged
[21:40] <apachelogger> Quintasan: nini
[21:50] <yofel> bah, good night too