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linuxman410my is a old dell laptop with duct tape holding frame around screen and l bracket holding screen up it has bad hinges00:01
KM0201lol00:01
KM0201linuxman410: were you the one here the other night looking for RAM on ebay?00:02
linuxman410KM0201 i throw nothing away that is still usable00:02
linuxman410KM0201 that was probably me00:03
KM0201linuxman410: i know i gave someone a link to some RAM on ebay...00:04
KM0201cuz they only had lik 128mb00:04
linuxman410KM0201 i have some ddr2 but nothing that uses it bought at yardsale00:04
KM0201hmm00:04
KM0201prolly wasn't you then00:04
linuxman410KM0201 i have plenty of pc 133 and rambus00:05
KM0201rambus.. that crap was expensive.00:05
KM0201and yeah, he was looking for PC133.. only had 128mb and we found 2x512 on Ebay for under $18, including shipping..lol00:06
KM0201new00:06
linuxman410KM0201 i have 40 pieces of rambus00:06
KM0201dang.00:06
linuxman410KM0201 i have about 50 pieces 13300:07
linuxman410every time i part out a computer i keep harddrive and ram00:08
KM0201http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing00:08
KM0201that was all related to RIMMs00:09
linuxman410wow00:09
linuxman410KM0201 i have computers for sale on ebay00:11
linuxman410stuff i do not need00:11
KM0201linuxman410: yeah, i'm not much of an ebayer00:11
linuxman410KM0201 i buy and sell computers on there00:13
KM0201ebay is to much hassle, i don't like it00:13
linuxman410yeah i know a guy ripped me off now i have to file claim to get  money back00:14
linuxman410be right back00:16
linuxman410i am back00:25
KM0201wb... o/00:25
linuxman410KM0201 that ram fit this junk dell i upgraded from 512 to a gig of ram00:27
KM0201well, thats good00:27
linuxman410KM0201 now i have lubuntu running with gig of ram00:28
micahnhello02:06
stlsaintphillw: hey is there somewhere where the channel guidelines are posted that we can reference in the topic?02:08
phillwstlsaint: the channel guidelines are issued by chanserv?02:09
stlsaintphillw: i dont know02:12
head_victim!hi02:13
head_victim!hi | stlsaint02:13
stlsainthead_victim: heyo02:13
head_victimhah sorry, that's deleted02:13
head_victimIt's meant to be channel guidelines02:13
head_victim!guidelines02:13
ubot5The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines02:13
phillwhead_victim: who deleted it? :(02:14
head_victimphillw: no idea I just search the database02:14
head_victim!factoid02:14
ubot5Hi! I'm #lubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots02:14
stlsaintalright lemme try this02:14
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Unit193Might you be looking for !ask ?02:15
=== stlsaint changed the topic of #lubuntu to: Topic for #lubuntu: Welcome to #lubuntu || Please use #lubuntu-offtopic for general chat || Lubuntu 11.04 is available via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu (please use the torrent feed). || Always follow the channel guidelines. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
stlsaintW00T DragonEyes02:16
stlsaint;lurk02:16
phillwstlsaint: have you sorted it?02:16
phillwI'll tell DE to leave..02:17
phillw;part #lubuntu02:17
stlsainti just used chanserv its cool ;)02:17
phillwwe each have our preferred methods, i like DE and am allowed him on here for admin stuff :)02:18
stlsaintyea i like de as well, just saw he wasnt in here at the time so went with CS02:19
phillwstlsaint: He is not allowed full time on here, #lubuntu is an official channel. you can ask to ;join for admin, but do need to tell him to ;part afterwards.02:21
stlsaintphillw: aye, gotcha02:24
phillwstlsaint: you will have seen him on offtopic02:26
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trakinasmy sister is gonna test lubuntu this night. lets hope for the best. hehe! I explained a little how to use it, including why apps may crash out of the blue (out of memory) - and that may be happening since we are running from the pendrive.03:02
linuxman410harddrive failure on duct tape dell03:08
Unit193trakinas: How much ram does it have?03:23
trakinasUnit193: 51203:23
trakinastrakinas: but running from the pendrive + some applications like Chromium/FF puts memory consumption to 400+/-03:24
trakinasaccording to top and free03:24
Unit193Firefox... Not so lightweight. Has she tried it yet?03:28
trakinasUnit193: not yet. if she think it is too have, I will tell her to use Chromium or Opera.03:34
Unit193trakinas: Have you taken a look at Arora?03:37
trakinasUnit193: yep. we are testing ditros before getting one for real.03:39
trakinasbut I don't recall aurora being lighter than lubuntu03:39
trakinasit seems like they are now using gnome...03:39
Unit193Arora is a web browser03:41
Unit193!info arora03:41
trakinasops03:41
ubot5arora (source: arora): simple cross platform web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.10.2-1ubuntu3 (natty), package size 1497 kB, installed size 4080 kB03:41
Unit193With all the names, it can get mixed up03:41
trakinasI got confused with: auroraos.org03:42
trakinasI will have a look! if it has flash and a decent js engine, I think it is ok. I don't recall her using her eeepc for banking stuff (meaning: java)03:43
trakinashmmmm... I wonder how much qtlib will consume of diskspace03:46
trakinas40mb +/- ?03:46
Unit193That I don't know03:47
trakinasthanks03:53
trakinasgtg! cheers all04:48
KM0201Unit193: u around?05:04
Unit193KM0201: Not exactly05:04
KM0201ah, ok.05:04
KM0201no worries05:04
Unit193May as well ask...05:04
KM0201i'm having a weird problem that will probably take you a bit.. dn't want to keep you05:04
KM0201<KM0201> i changed my icon for Audacious, the same way i did for skype (and it works perfectly... however, after i change mmy icon for audacious.. i can't open the program, i get this in terminal...  http://pastebin.com/TGj7D9gT   if i change the icon back, it works perfectly05:05
KM0201i posted it earlier.05:05
KM0201maybe bioterror will be along...05:07
Unit193I have never used audacious, but you changed the file back or used a backup?05:09
KM0201Unit193: once i changed it back(and it worked) the other time, i purged audacious and reinstalle dit, and it worked05:09
KM0201but if i set it to my custom image, thats what i get.05:10
KM0201i know the path is right, cuz like i said, my skype icon is in that same folder, and when i modified skype.desktop   it works perfectly05:10
bioterrorand how did you change icon? from .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ ?05:16
KM0201bioterror: yup... /usr/share/application/audacious.desktop  edited the icon path, to point at the icon i wanted.. .it works perfect for skype.. audacious, i get that error.05:32
KM0201bioterror: obviously, the error is saying something, but it is total greek to me05:33
KM0201bioterror: no ideas?05:42
john_ramboRunning Lubuntu 11.04 ....Just installed gnome-screenshot ....when I press print screen key a screenshot of the entire Desktop gets saved in home ....I want to grab a specific area06:25
KM0201john_rambo: choose "grab current window"... then set the grab delay for say.. 5-6sec... click take screen shot, then immediately click the window you want to screenshot06:27
KM0201after a second, youi'll get the image of just that window, then save it06:27
john_ramboKM0201, "grab current window" but how ? Where ? I dont see those options06:28
KM0201are you sure you installed gnome-screenshot?06:28
john_ramboKM0201, when I press print screen key a screenshot of the entire Desktop gets saved in home06:29
KM0201john_rambo: oh ok.. now i see... go to menu/accessories/take screen shot06:29
KM0201then you'll ee what i'm talking about06:29
KM0201(again, assuming you installed gnome-screenshot)06:29
john_ramboKM0201, Yes, found it ...it wasn't there before installing gnome-screenshot ......Thanks06:30
KM0201john_rambo: yeah, it's not, unless you install gnome screenshot... np06:30
bioterrorKM0201, not at the moment. I think I have to try myself :D06:54
KM0201bioterror: lol06:54
KM0201i'm not really sure whats wrong.. cuz it works fine w/ Skype.. so i know i did it right (the two icons are in the same folder in my home folder)06:54
bioterrorpoor john06:55
KM0201wy poor john?06:55
bioterrordidnt get it that prntscreen is binded in openbox to scrot06:55
KM0201i was gonna tell him, but he bolted to quick.06:55
bioterrorpeople are too fast paced nowdays06:56
bioterroralways in a hurry06:56
KM0201i imagine if one were so inclined, you could change prtsc to point at gnome-screenshot (it's a better screenshot utility anyway)06:56
bioterrori can guarantee scrot fetches less gnome deps :D06:58
KM0201oh i'm sure06:58
Unit193There doesn't happen to have a space in the pic name?07:03
KM0201Unit193: negative...07:03
KM0201good thinking though07:03
KM0201Unit193: actually, the pic originally had a capital A in the title, and i thought maybe that was the prob, so i renamed it to lowercase...07:04
KM0201Unit193: tried putting the path in quotes07:04
KM0201its weird.07:04
KM0201the icon changes, like its supposed to07:04
KM0201but when i try to open the program, i get the error i pastebinned earlier07:04
Unit193Is the pic the same formet as skype? (Reaching for the stars here...)07:08
KM0201Unit193: affirmative07:09
KM0201both .pngs07:09
KM0201you know..07:09
KM0201just for grins07:09
KM0201i can try changing audacious to the skype png... and see if i still have th eproblem07:09
KM0201lemme try that real quick07:10
KM0201Unit193: its gotta be something w/ that png file07:13
KM0201cuz when i changed to my custom skyp eicon (which i know works, cuz it works w/ skype)... i get the same problem07:13
KM0201but how on earth could a png image cause that07:13
KM0201hmm, weird.. audacious for some reason, just doesn't like custom icons.07:14
KM0201cuz when i change it back to the default icon... it starts working again07:14
bioterrorput that broken image to skype07:15
KM0201bioterror: ok07:15
bioterrorand does skype work with it07:15
KM0201checking now..07:15
KM0201nope, skype started07:16
KM0201so its something w/ audacious07:16
bioterrormake a bug raport ;)07:16
KM0201never thought of doing that.. that just confirms it's a problem w/ audacious.07:16
KM0201lol, i have no idea how on earth i'd explain it...lol07:16
KM0201i can't believe i actually found a bug, that likely nobody else has figured out.07:17
KM0201my guess is, bioterror someone would read that bug report and wonder what the heck i was doing, and flush it07:22
KM0201lol07:23
Unit193KM0201: Have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs and post the bug # when you are done07:25
KM0201Unit193: do you think that bug is specifically limited to lxde?07:28
KM0201i'm guessing it is.07:28
Unit193I would try it on my Xubuntu, but it's 3:30 and my brain is dead (I should be be getting to sleep as I've been busy)07:33
KM0201Unit193: i fell asleep earlier, so i'm wide awake07:33
KM0201Unit193: but sometimes i read launchpad and i think, who on earth would sit around to find a bug that obscure07:35
KM0201and sure enough, i think i found a pretty obscure one07:35
KM0201lol07:35
jwernerHi, I've got an ASUS EEEPC and I'd like to use the power button to show the shutdown menu11:11
bioterrorreally11:17
bioterrorpower-manager doesnt work here11:18
bioterrorI have "when power button is pressed: ask"11:18
bioterrorand didnt ask anything11:18
pmatulisthe calendar applet looks like the gnome 'buntu one but has less features (ex: adding other timezones).  normal?13:28
john_rambowhat is causing that black area ? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30630174/lubuntu.png ... When I move the a window over it it goes away14:09
gsusin my office's computer ocurr the same, but in my home pc not. I think that is the video driver, is the only diference between my pcs.14:20
myrmidettecan anyone walk me through setting up a bluetooth headset?14:24
myrmidetteI just want to use it as an audio sink14:24
kristian-aalborggreetings16:24
kristian-aalborghas Lubuntu had probs with PCManFM also?16:25
KM0201kristian-aalborg: seems to work fine for me.. what probs are you referring to16:25
kristian-aalborgI've had all kinds of problems with it recently16:25
kristian-aalborgsegfaults, you name it16:26
KM0201like?.. i've actually had zero issues with it.16:26
kristian-aalborgyes, me too on Lubuntu16:26
kristian-aalborgKM0201, what version?16:26
KM0201kristian-aalborg: of pcman, or of lubuntu?16:26
KM020111.04 on lubuntu16:26
bioterror!backtrace | kristian-aalborg16:26
ubot5kristian-aalborg: To get a backtrace of a failing application please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace16:26
kristian-aalborgand pcman?16:26
KM0201pcman looks like 0.9.916:26
kristian-aalborghurm16:27
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semitones-teahey everyone, I've got a problem with my lubuntu install -- it isn't usable at the moment19:06
semitones-teahere's the backstory: for as long as I remember, before the login screen I'd get an X11 message saying "Xsession: unable to launch "startlxde" session - "startled" not found; falling back to default session."19:07
pmatulissemitones-tea: take 2 aspirins and call me in the morning19:07
semitones-teathis weekend we moved the computer from one side of the room to the other. Now after that message shows up, and you click ok, you just get a blank black screen19:07
semitones-teaswitching to a virtual terminal sends the monitor out of its frequency range, and then the computer has to be restarted19:08
pmatulissemitones-tea: old monitor?19:08
semitones-teayes it's a CRT from the 90's but it has always worked19:09
semitones-teaalso, s/startled/startlxde/ in the above error19:09
semitones-teathe lubuntu that's on there is 10.0419:10
semitones-teaI booted from a natty live-cd just now, but it dropped me into a terminal screen19:11
pmatulissemitones-tea: test on a different monitor?  possible?19:12
semitones-teaunfortunately that's not possible at the moment19:12
pmatulissemitones-tea: well i don't think bad m/b or p/s or ram can yield such a symptom (with a live cd).  sounds like your monitor can no longer be probed19:15
semitones-teahow can I start lxde from the commandline?19:16
semitones-teai want to see if the live-cd can do what the hdd install cannot19:16
pmatulissemitones-tea: i guess you'll need an xorg.conf file first19:22
semitones-teaI found another monitor to test, trying that19:25
semitones-teanow grub seems to be broken19:29
semitones-tea"invalid boot drive, insert bootable floppy into drive A:"19:30
semitones-teaHow do you start the gui from cli?19:36
semitones-tea /join #ubuntu-offtopic19:37
semitones-teaargh19:37
myrmidette<myrmidette> can anyone walk me through setting up a bluetooth headset?19:39
myrmidette<myrmidette> I just want to use it as an audio sink19:39
bioterrorinstall blueman or something like that bluez19:39
myrmidetteso far, this works: aplay -D btheadset -f s16_le ~/randomfile.wav19:39
myrmidettebioterror, that was the first thing I did19:39
myrmidettethanks for replying btw :)19:40
myrmidetteaplay -l returns only my soundcard19:40
bioterrorI've never used bluetooth as headset19:40
bioterrorI trust in cables19:40
semitones-teaany idea how to start lubuntu from the commandline?19:53
semitones-teaon a live cd19:53
bioterrorsemitones-tea, startlubuntu19:53
semitones-teaty19:53
semitones-teabioterror, it exits without doing anything at all19:54
bioterrordoes it prompt anything19:54
semitones-teano19:54
semitones-teajust gives me a blank new line19:55
bioterrorcheck your logs19:55
semitones-teait's a live cd19:55
semitones-teawhich logs19:55
bioterror/var/log/Xorg.0.log19:55
bioterrorfor example19:55
semitones-tealooks like it failed to load nv and is using nouveau19:57
semitones-teaother than that i don't see any errors19:57
bioterrornvidia <320:00
semitones-teaso there's no hope?20:02
semitones-teaalso which live cd is better, 10.04 or 10.1020:02
bioterror11.0420:02
semitones-teathat's what I'm using now and it sucks20:02
semitones-teacan't even boot into gui20:03
bioterrorwhat's your graphics card?20:03
semitones-teaI forget but it's an agp 4x nvidia one20:05
semitones-teait could play Halo but not with very high graphics20:05
bioterrorprobably no support for it20:08
bioterroruse VESA ;)20:08
n-iCehello22:26
n-iCewill lubuntu works good in this machine?22:26
n-iCeHostname: nice-laptop - OS: Linux 2.6.32-32-generic/i686 - CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo (1000.000 MHz) - Processes: 161 - Uptime: 12m - Load Average: 0.60 - Memory Usage: 293.55MB/2004.29MB (14.65%) - Disk Usage: 35.30GB/145.96GB (24.19%)22:26
n-iCeor is it just for slow machines?22:26
bioterrorshould run22:26
bioterrorno, it's not just for slow machines22:26
bioterrorit's also for people who wants to have a sleek desktop and use resources for something useful22:27
n-iCeyou use it?22:27
bioterrormy wife uses atm.22:27
n-iCeI'm gonna try it right now22:27
bioterrorgive it a shot!22:28
n-iCeis there netinstall?22:28
bioterroryou can only win ;)22:28
bioterrorno22:28
bioterroror yo can take mini.iso22:28
bioterrorand then do sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop22:28
n-iCewhat is it about22:28
n-iCeoh22:28
n-iCeno I will download the whole iso22:28
n-iCe:)22:28
n-iCeI'm just going to partiotonate my disk, I want ot save 10GB of files, then I will use the other disk to lubuntu and erase ubuntu22:28
bioterrorhmmm22:29
bioterroryou can turn your ubuntu into lubuntu22:29
bioterrorjust install lubuntu-desktop22:29
bioterrorand then22:29
bioterror!purelxde22:29
ubot5If you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde »22:29
n-iCebut the whole files will be there22:29
n-iCeo.O22:29
n-iCeI like clean install I guess22:29
Kurdistann-iCe, lubuntu is much faster then ubuntu.22:29
Kurdistanit is lightweighted also22:29
n-iCeI did not like ubuntu 11.04 I am in 10.0422:30
n-iCeBut I want something newer kernel/drivers, etc22:30
n-iCewould lubuntu a good option, aight?22:30
Kurdistann-iCe, lubuntu is based on ubuntu.22:30
bioterroryou can run ubuntu 11.04 in gnome 2 mode22:30
Kurdistanso you will get all the kernel and drivers that are new22:30
Kurdistanin lubuntu natty22:30
Kurdistanme myself run ubuntu but have login option on lubuntu :)22:31
Kurdistanubuntu 10.1022:31
n-iCerebooting to the partitiong thing22:32
n-iCethanks! brb22:32
Kurdistann-iCe, next release of ubuntu will give users 6 month of updates (closed driver) för there nvidia and I think ati cards also.22:33
n-iCedamn, the .iso of gparted seems to not be working22:36
n-iCethe lastest .iso22:36
n-iCegets freeze22:36
n-iCeanyone knows any other good usb partition software?22:36
Kurdistanare you trying to format your usb?22:37
bioterroruse unetbootin to put your 11.04 lubuntu into your usb, boot it, apt-get gparted and you know the rest22:37
n-iCeno, I will partition my disk22:37
n-iCefirst, want to save some files in a disk space22:38
Kurdistann-iCe, you can partition during the installation.22:38
n-iCeI need to boot in the partition manager before partition my using disk22:38
n-iCeyeah, but can I move a folder to the partition space?22:38
Kurdistanif you have partition before it will be easy22:38
n-iCewhile the installation?22:38
Kurdistan:) why not move after installation?22:38
n-iCebecause I want to use the whole disk :)22:39
Kurdistanbut yes before you format you can move files from one folder to another22:39
n-iCeonly leave 10GB for my files22:39
KurdistanI have 20 gb for / (system partition).22:41
Kurdistan2 gb for swap22:41
Kurdistanand rest for home22:41
n-iCeI am downloading lubuntu22:43
KM0201Kurdistan: how much ram does your system have?22:44
KurdistanI have 2 gb of ram22:45
KM0201ic22:45
Kurdistan:) I normally tweak so I dont use it22:45
Kurdistanbut normally a person should have twice the ram22:45
KM0201yeah, i only use swap when i'm hibernating/sleeping... so... i always make it double my ram22:46
n-iCewhat's twick22:46
n-iCetweak22:46
n-iCeis it good hibernate?22:46
KM0201n-iCe: it doesn't bother me, some machines do not wake up like they are supposed to22:47
KM0201mine are fine22:47
n-iCebut is it better to completly shut down or not22:47
KurdistanKM0201, my suspend work without have swap on :)22:49
KM0201your lucky22:50
Kurdistan:) yes I am22:53
n-iCelot of forums and sites over the internet tell me to set my wireless interface to rate 5.5M fixed, but seems this slow all, but at least I can surf the web, what can I do to solve it?23:20
KM0201n-iCe: why do you need to do that?.. i've never made any adjustments like that23:31
KM0201whast your device?23:31
n-iCeAWUS036H23:31
KM0201..23:32
KM0201what chipset?23:32
n-iCerealtek23:37
n-iCertl818723:37
KM0201n-iCe: that should workw/o issue i'm pretty sure, i have one ... and it works great, no problems, configuring, etc.23:47
KM0201plug it in, it works23:47

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