[00:01] <linuxman410> my is a old dell laptop with duct tape holding frame around screen and l bracket holding screen up it has bad hinges
[00:01] <KM0201> lol
[00:02] <KM0201> linuxman410: were you the one here the other night looking for RAM on ebay?
[00:02] <linuxman410> KM0201 i throw nothing away that is still usable
[00:03] <linuxman410> KM0201 that was probably me
[00:04] <KM0201> linuxman410: i know i gave someone a link to some RAM on ebay...
[00:04] <KM0201> cuz they only had lik 128mb
[00:04] <linuxman410> KM0201 i have some ddr2 but nothing that uses it bought at yardsale
[00:04] <KM0201> hmm
[00:04] <KM0201> prolly wasn't you then
[00:05] <linuxman410> KM0201 i have plenty of pc 133 and rambus
[00:05] <KM0201> rambus.. that crap was expensive.
[00:06] <KM0201> and yeah, he was looking for PC133.. only had 128mb and we found 2x512 on Ebay for under $18, including shipping..lol
[00:06] <KM0201> new
[00:06] <linuxman410> KM0201 i have 40 pieces of rambus
[00:06] <KM0201> dang.
[00:07] <linuxman410> KM0201 i have about 50 pieces 133
[00:08] <linuxman410> every time i part out a computer i keep harddrive and ram
[00:08] <KM0201> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing
[00:09] <KM0201> that was all related to RIMMs
[00:09] <linuxman410> wow
[00:11] <linuxman410> KM0201 i have computers for sale on ebay
[00:11] <linuxman410> stuff i do not need
[00:11] <KM0201> linuxman410: yeah, i'm not much of an ebayer
[00:13] <linuxman410> KM0201 i buy and sell computers on there
[00:13] <KM0201> ebay is to much hassle, i don't like it
[00:14] <linuxman410> yeah i know a guy ripped me off now i have to file claim to get  money back
[00:16] <linuxman410> be right back
[00:25] <linuxman410> i am back
[00:25] <KM0201> wb... o/
[00:27] <linuxman410> KM0201 that ram fit this junk dell i upgraded from 512 to a gig of ram
[00:27] <KM0201> well, thats good
[00:28] <linuxman410> KM0201 now i have lubuntu running with gig of ram
[02:06] <micahn> hello
[02:08] <stlsaint> phillw: hey is there somewhere where the channel guidelines are posted that we can reference in the topic?
[02:09] <phillw> stlsaint: the channel guidelines are issued by chanserv?
[02:12] <stlsaint> phillw: i dont know
[02:13] <head_victim> !hi
[02:13] <head_victim> !hi | stlsaint
[02:13] <stlsaint> head_victim: heyo
[02:13] <head_victim> hah sorry, that's deleted
[02:13] <head_victim> It's meant to be channel guidelines
[02:13] <head_victim> !guidelines
[02:14] <phillw> head_victim: who deleted it? :(
[02:14] <head_victim> phillw: no idea I just search the database
[02:14] <head_victim> !factoid
[02:14] <stlsaint> alright lemme try this
[02:15] <Unit193> Might you be looking for !ask ?
[02:16] <stlsaint> W00T DragonEyes
[02:16] <stlsaint> ;lurk
[02:16] <phillw> stlsaint: have you sorted it?
[02:17] <phillw> I'll tell DE to leave..
[02:17] <phillw> ;part #lubuntu
[02:17] <stlsaint> i just used chanserv its cool ;)
[02:18] <phillw> we each have our preferred methods, i like DE and am allowed him on here for admin stuff :)
[02:19] <stlsaint> yea i like de as well, just saw he wasnt in here at the time so went with CS
[02:21] <phillw> stlsaint: He is not allowed full time on here, #lubuntu is an official channel. you can ask to ;join for admin, but do need to tell him to ;part afterwards.
[02:24] <stlsaint> phillw: aye, gotcha
[02:26] <phillw> stlsaint: you will have seen him on offtopic
[03:02] <trakinas> my sister is gonna test lubuntu this night. lets hope for the best. hehe! I explained a little how to use it, including why apps may crash out of the blue (out of memory) - and that may be happening since we are running from the pendrive.
[03:08] <linuxman410> harddrive failure on duct tape dell
[03:23] <Unit193> trakinas: How much ram does it have?
[03:23] <trakinas> Unit193: 512
[03:24] <trakinas> trakinas: but running from the pendrive + some applications like Chromium/FF puts memory consumption to 400+/-
[03:24] <trakinas> according to top and free
[03:28] <Unit193> Firefox... Not so lightweight. Has she tried it yet?
[03:34] <trakinas> Unit193: not yet. if she think it is too have, I will tell her to use Chromium or Opera.
[03:37] <Unit193> trakinas: Have you taken a look at Arora?
[03:39] <trakinas> Unit193: yep. we are testing ditros before getting one for real.
[03:39] <trakinas> but I don't recall aurora being lighter than lubuntu
[03:39] <trakinas> it seems like they are now using gnome...
[03:41] <Unit193> Arora is a web browser
[03:41] <Unit193> !info arora
[03:41] <trakinas> ops
[03:41] <Unit193> With all the names, it can get mixed up
[03:42] <trakinas> I got confused with: auroraos.org
[03:43] <trakinas> I will have a look! if it has flash and a decent js engine, I think it is ok. I don't recall her using her eeepc for banking stuff (meaning: java)
[03:46] <trakinas> hmmmm... I wonder how much qtlib will consume of diskspace
[03:46] <trakinas> 40mb +/- ?
[03:47] <Unit193> That I don't know
[03:53] <trakinas> thanks
[04:48] <trakinas> gtg! cheers all
[05:04] <KM0201> Unit193: u around?
[05:04] <Unit193> KM0201: Not exactly
[05:04] <KM0201> ah, ok.
[05:04] <KM0201> no worries
[05:04] <Unit193> May as well ask...
[05:04] <KM0201> i'm having a weird problem that will probably take you a bit.. dn't want to keep you
 i changed my icon for Audacious, the same way i did for skype (and it works perfectly... however, after i change mmy icon for audacious.. i can't open the program, i get this in terminal...  http://pastebin.com/TGj7D9gT   if i change the icon back, it works perfectly
[05:05] <KM0201> i posted it earlier.
[05:07] <KM0201> maybe bioterror will be along...
[05:09] <Unit193> I have never used audacious, but you changed the file back or used a backup?
[05:09] <KM0201> Unit193: once i changed it back(and it worked) the other time, i purged audacious and reinstalle dit, and it worked
[05:10] <KM0201> but if i set it to my custom image, thats what i get.
[05:10] <KM0201> i know the path is right, cuz like i said, my skype icon is in that same folder, and when i modified skype.desktop   it works perfectly
[05:16] <bioterror> and how did you change icon? from .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ ?
[05:32] <KM0201> bioterror: yup... /usr/share/application/audacious.desktop  edited the icon path, to point at the icon i wanted.. .it works perfect for skype.. audacious, i get that error.
[05:33] <KM0201> bioterror: obviously, the error is saying something, but it is total greek to me
[05:42] <KM0201> bioterror: no ideas?
[06:25] <john_rambo> Running Lubuntu 11.04 ....Just installed gnome-screenshot ....when I press print screen key a screenshot of the entire Desktop gets saved in home ....I want to grab a specific area
[06:27] <KM0201> john_rambo: choose "grab current window"... then set the grab delay for say.. 5-6sec... click take screen shot, then immediately click the window you want to screenshot
[06:27] <KM0201> after a second, youi'll get the image of just that window, then save it
[06:28] <john_rambo> KM0201, "grab current window" but how ? Where ? I dont see those options
[06:28] <KM0201> are you sure you installed gnome-screenshot?
[06:29] <john_rambo> KM0201, when I press print screen key a screenshot of the entire Desktop gets saved in home
[06:29] <KM0201> john_rambo: oh ok.. now i see... go to menu/accessories/take screen shot
[06:29] <KM0201> then you'll ee what i'm talking about
[06:29] <KM0201> (again, assuming you installed gnome-screenshot)
[06:30] <john_rambo> KM0201, Yes, found it ...it wasn't there before installing gnome-screenshot ......Thanks
[06:30] <KM0201> john_rambo: yeah, it's not, unless you install gnome screenshot... np
[06:54] <bioterror> KM0201, not at the moment. I think I have to try myself :D
[06:54] <KM0201> bioterror: lol
[06:54] <KM0201> i'm not really sure whats wrong.. cuz it works fine w/ Skype.. so i know i did it right (the two icons are in the same folder in my home folder)
[06:55] <bioterror> poor john
[06:55] <KM0201> wy poor john?
[06:55] <bioterror> didnt get it that prntscreen is binded in openbox to scrot
[06:55] <KM0201> i was gonna tell him, but he bolted to quick.
[06:56] <bioterror> people are too fast paced nowdays
[06:56] <bioterror> always in a hurry
[06:56] <KM0201> i imagine if one were so inclined, you could change prtsc to point at gnome-screenshot (it's a better screenshot utility anyway)
[06:58] <bioterror> i can guarantee scrot fetches less gnome deps :D
[06:58] <KM0201> oh i'm sure
[07:03] <Unit193> There doesn't happen to have a space in the pic name?
[07:03] <KM0201> Unit193: negative...
[07:03] <KM0201> good thinking though
[07:04] <KM0201> Unit193: actually, the pic originally had a capital A in the title, and i thought maybe that was the prob, so i renamed it to lowercase...
[07:04] <KM0201> Unit193: tried putting the path in quotes
[07:04] <KM0201> its weird.
[07:04] <KM0201> the icon changes, like its supposed to
[07:04] <KM0201> but when i try to open the program, i get the error i pastebinned earlier
[07:08] <Unit193> Is the pic the same formet as skype? (Reaching for the stars here...)
[07:09] <KM0201> Unit193: affirmative
[07:09] <KM0201> both .pngs
[07:09] <KM0201> you know..
[07:09] <KM0201> just for grins
[07:09] <KM0201> i can try changing audacious to the skype png... and see if i still have th eproblem
[07:10] <KM0201> lemme try that real quick
[07:13] <KM0201> Unit193: its gotta be something w/ that png file
[07:13] <KM0201> cuz when i changed to my custom skyp eicon (which i know works, cuz it works w/ skype)... i get the same problem
[07:13] <KM0201> but how on earth could a png image cause that
[07:14] <KM0201> hmm, weird.. audacious for some reason, just doesn't like custom icons.
[07:14] <KM0201> cuz when i change it back to the default icon... it starts working again
[07:15] <bioterror> put that broken image to skype
[07:15] <KM0201> bioterror: ok
[07:15] <bioterror> and does skype work with it
[07:15] <KM0201> checking now..
[07:16] <KM0201> nope, skype started
[07:16] <KM0201> so its something w/ audacious
[07:16] <bioterror> make a bug raport ;)
[07:16] <KM0201> never thought of doing that.. that just confirms it's a problem w/ audacious.
[07:16] <KM0201> lol, i have no idea how on earth i'd explain it...lol
[07:17] <KM0201> i can't believe i actually found a bug, that likely nobody else has figured out.
[07:22] <KM0201> my guess is, bioterror someone would read that bug report and wonder what the heck i was doing, and flush it
[07:23] <KM0201> lol
[07:25] <Unit193> KM0201: Have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs and post the bug # when you are done
[07:28] <KM0201> Unit193: do you think that bug is specifically limited to lxde?
[07:28] <KM0201> i'm guessing it is.
[07:33] <Unit193> I would try it on my Xubuntu, but it's 3:30 and my brain is dead (I should be be getting to sleep as I've been busy)
[07:33] <KM0201> Unit193: i fell asleep earlier, so i'm wide awake
[07:35] <KM0201> Unit193: but sometimes i read launchpad and i think, who on earth would sit around to find a bug that obscure
[07:35] <KM0201> and sure enough, i think i found a pretty obscure one
[07:35] <KM0201> lol
[11:11] <jwerner> Hi, I've got an ASUS EEEPC and I'd like to use the power button to show the shutdown menu
[11:17] <bioterror> really
[11:18] <bioterror> power-manager doesnt work here
[11:18] <bioterror> I have "when power button is pressed: ask"
[11:18] <bioterror> and didnt ask anything
[13:28] <pmatulis> the calendar applet looks like the gnome 'buntu one but has less features (ex: adding other timezones).  normal?
[14:09] <john_rambo> what is causing that black area ? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30630174/lubuntu.png ... When I move the a window over it it goes away
[14:20] <gsus> in my office's computer ocurr the same, but in my home pc not. I think that is the video driver, is the only diference between my pcs.
[14:24] <myrmidette> can anyone walk me through setting up a bluetooth headset?
[14:24] <myrmidette> I just want to use it as an audio sink
[16:24] <kristian-aalborg> greetings
[16:25] <kristian-aalborg> has Lubuntu had probs with PCManFM also?
[16:25] <KM0201> kristian-aalborg: seems to work fine for me.. what probs are you referring to
[16:25] <kristian-aalborg> I've had all kinds of problems with it recently
[16:26] <kristian-aalborg> segfaults, you name it
[16:26] <KM0201> like?.. i've actually had zero issues with it.
[16:26] <kristian-aalborg> yes, me too on Lubuntu
[16:26] <kristian-aalborg> KM0201, what version?
[16:26] <KM0201> kristian-aalborg: of pcman, or of lubuntu?
[16:26] <KM0201> 11.04 on lubuntu
[16:26] <bioterror> !backtrace | kristian-aalborg
[16:26] <kristian-aalborg> and pcman?
[16:26] <KM0201> pcman looks like 0.9.9
[16:27] <kristian-aalborg> hurm
[19:06] <semitones-tea> hey everyone, I've got a problem with my lubuntu install -- it isn't usable at the moment
[19:07] <semitones-tea> here's the backstory: for as long as I remember, before the login screen I'd get an X11 message saying "Xsession: unable to launch "startlxde" session - "startled" not found; falling back to default session."
[19:07] <pmatulis> semitones-tea: take 2 aspirins and call me in the morning
[19:07] <semitones-tea> this weekend we moved the computer from one side of the room to the other. Now after that message shows up, and you click ok, you just get a blank black screen
[19:08] <semitones-tea> switching to a virtual terminal sends the monitor out of its frequency range, and then the computer has to be restarted
[19:08] <pmatulis> semitones-tea: old monitor?
[19:09] <semitones-tea> yes it's a CRT from the 90's but it has always worked
[19:09] <semitones-tea> also, s/startled/startlxde/ in the above error
[19:10] <semitones-tea> the lubuntu that's on there is 10.04
[19:11] <semitones-tea> I booted from a natty live-cd just now, but it dropped me into a terminal screen
[19:12] <pmatulis> semitones-tea: test on a different monitor?  possible?
[19:12] <semitones-tea> unfortunately that's not possible at the moment
[19:15] <pmatulis> semitones-tea: well i don't think bad m/b or p/s or ram can yield such a symptom (with a live cd).  sounds like your monitor can no longer be probed
[19:16] <semitones-tea> how can I start lxde from the commandline?
[19:16] <semitones-tea> i want to see if the live-cd can do what the hdd install cannot
[19:22] <pmatulis> semitones-tea: i guess you'll need an xorg.conf file first
[19:25] <semitones-tea> I found another monitor to test, trying that
[19:29] <semitones-tea> now grub seems to be broken
[19:30] <semitones-tea> "invalid boot drive, insert bootable floppy into drive A:"
[19:36] <semitones-tea> How do you start the gui from cli?
[19:37] <semitones-tea>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:37] <semitones-tea> argh
 can anyone walk me through setting up a bluetooth headset?
 I just want to use it as an audio sink
[19:39] <bioterror> install blueman or something like that bluez
[19:39] <myrmidette> so far, this works: aplay -D btheadset -f s16_le ~/randomfile.wav
[19:39] <myrmidette> bioterror, that was the first thing I did
[19:40] <myrmidette> thanks for replying btw :)
[19:40] <myrmidette> aplay -l returns only my soundcard
[19:40] <bioterror> I've never used bluetooth as headset
[19:40] <bioterror> I trust in cables
[19:53] <semitones-tea> any idea how to start lubuntu from the commandline?
[19:53] <semitones-tea> on a live cd
[19:53] <bioterror> semitones-tea, startlubuntu
[19:53] <semitones-tea> ty
[19:54] <semitones-tea> bioterror, it exits without doing anything at all
[19:54] <bioterror> does it prompt anything
[19:54] <semitones-tea> no
[19:55] <semitones-tea> just gives me a blank new line
[19:55] <bioterror> check your logs
[19:55] <semitones-tea> it's a live cd
[19:55] <semitones-tea> which logs
[19:55] <bioterror> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:55] <bioterror> for example
[19:57] <semitones-tea> looks like it failed to load nv and is using nouveau
[19:57] <semitones-tea> other than that i don't see any errors
[20:00] <bioterror> nvidia <3
[20:02] <semitones-tea> so there's no hope?
[20:02] <semitones-tea> also which live cd is better, 10.04 or 10.10
[20:02] <bioterror> 11.04
[20:02] <semitones-tea> that's what I'm using now and it sucks
[20:03] <semitones-tea> can't even boot into gui
[20:03] <bioterror> what's your graphics card?
[20:05] <semitones-tea> I forget but it's an agp 4x nvidia one
[20:05] <semitones-tea> it could play Halo but not with very high graphics
[20:08] <bioterror> probably no support for it
[20:08] <bioterror> use VESA ;)
[22:26] <n-iCe> hello
[22:26] <n-iCe> will lubuntu works good in this machine?
[22:26] <n-iCe> Hostname: nice-laptop - OS: Linux 2.6.32-32-generic/i686 - CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo (1000.000 MHz) - Processes: 161 - Uptime: 12m - Load Average: 0.60 - Memory Usage: 293.55MB/2004.29MB (14.65%) - Disk Usage: 35.30GB/145.96GB (24.19%)
[22:26] <n-iCe> or is it just for slow machines?
[22:26] <bioterror> should run
[22:26] <bioterror> no, it's not just for slow machines
[22:27] <bioterror> it's also for people who wants to have a sleek desktop and use resources for something useful
[22:27] <n-iCe> you use it?
[22:27] <bioterror> my wife uses atm.
[22:27] <n-iCe> I'm gonna try it right now
[22:28] <bioterror> give it a shot!
[22:28] <n-iCe> is there netinstall?
[22:28] <bioterror> you can only win ;)
[22:28] <bioterror> no
[22:28] <bioterror> or yo can take mini.iso
[22:28] <bioterror> and then do sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[22:28] <n-iCe> what is it about
[22:28] <n-iCe> oh
[22:28] <n-iCe> no I will download the whole iso
[22:28] <n-iCe> :)
[22:28] <n-iCe> I'm just going to partiotonate my disk, I want ot save 10GB of files, then I will use the other disk to lubuntu and erase ubuntu
[22:29] <bioterror> hmmm
[22:29] <bioterror> you can turn your ubuntu into lubuntu
[22:29] <bioterror> just install lubuntu-desktop
[22:29] <bioterror> and then
[22:29] <bioterror> !purelxde
[22:29] <n-iCe> but the whole files will be there
[22:29] <n-iCe> o.O
[22:29] <n-iCe> I like clean install I guess
[22:29] <Kurdistan> n-iCe, lubuntu is much faster then ubuntu.
[22:29] <Kurdistan> it is lightweighted also
[22:30] <n-iCe> I did not like ubuntu 11.04 I am in 10.04
[22:30] <n-iCe> But I want something newer kernel/drivers, etc
[22:30] <n-iCe> would lubuntu a good option, aight?
[22:30] <Kurdistan> n-iCe, lubuntu is based on ubuntu.
[22:30] <bioterror> you can run ubuntu 11.04 in gnome 2 mode
[22:30] <Kurdistan> so you will get all the kernel and drivers that are new
[22:30] <Kurdistan> in lubuntu natty
[22:31] <Kurdistan> me myself run ubuntu but have login option on lubuntu :)
[22:31] <Kurdistan> ubuntu 10.10
[22:32] <n-iCe> rebooting to the partitiong thing
[22:32] <n-iCe> thanks! brb
[22:33] <Kurdistan> n-iCe, next release of ubuntu will give users 6 month of updates (closed driver) för there nvidia and I think ati cards also.
[22:36] <n-iCe> damn, the .iso of gparted seems to not be working
[22:36] <n-iCe> the lastest .iso
[22:36] <n-iCe> gets freeze
[22:36] <n-iCe> anyone knows any other good usb partition software?
[22:37] <Kurdistan> are you trying to format your usb?
[22:37] <bioterror> use unetbootin to put your 11.04 lubuntu into your usb, boot it, apt-get gparted and you know the rest
[22:37] <n-iCe> no, I will partition my disk
[22:38] <n-iCe> first, want to save some files in a disk space
[22:38] <Kurdistan> n-iCe, you can partition during the installation.
[22:38] <n-iCe> I need to boot in the partition manager before partition my using disk
[22:38] <n-iCe> yeah, but can I move a folder to the partition space?
[22:38] <Kurdistan> if you have partition before it will be easy
[22:38] <n-iCe> while the installation?
[22:38] <Kurdistan> :) why not move after installation?
[22:39] <n-iCe> because I want to use the whole disk :)
[22:39] <Kurdistan> but yes before you format you can move files from one folder to another
[22:39] <n-iCe> only leave 10GB for my files
[22:41] <Kurdistan> I have 20 gb for / (system partition).
[22:41] <Kurdistan> 2 gb for swap
[22:41] <Kurdistan> and rest for home
[22:43] <n-iCe> I am downloading lubuntu
[22:44] <KM0201> Kurdistan: how much ram does your system have?
[22:45] <Kurdistan> I have 2 gb of ram
[22:45] <KM0201> ic
[22:45] <Kurdistan> :) I normally tweak so I dont use it
[22:45] <Kurdistan> but normally a person should have twice the ram
[22:46] <KM0201> yeah, i only use swap when i'm hibernating/sleeping... so... i always make it double my ram
[22:46] <n-iCe> what's twick
[22:46] <n-iCe> tweak
[22:46] <n-iCe> is it good hibernate?
[22:47] <KM0201> n-iCe: it doesn't bother me, some machines do not wake up like they are supposed to
[22:47] <KM0201> mine are fine
[22:47] <n-iCe> but is it better to completly shut down or not
[22:49] <Kurdistan> KM0201, my suspend work without have swap on :)
[22:50] <KM0201> your lucky
[22:53] <Kurdistan> :) yes I am
[23:20] <n-iCe> lot of forums and sites over the internet tell me to set my wireless interface to rate 5.5M fixed, but seems this slow all, but at least I can surf the web, what can I do to solve it?
[23:31] <KM0201> n-iCe: why do you need to do that?.. i've never made any adjustments like that
[23:31] <KM0201> whast your device?
[23:31] <n-iCe> AWUS036H
[23:32] <KM0201> ..
[23:32] <KM0201> what chipset?
[23:37] <n-iCe> realtek
[23:37] <n-iCe> rtl8187
[23:47] <KM0201> n-iCe: that should workw/o issue i'm pretty sure, i have one ... and it works great, no problems, configuring, etc.
[23:47] <KM0201> plug it in, it works