[00:01] my is a old dell laptop with duct tape holding frame around screen and l bracket holding screen up it has bad hinges [00:01] lol [00:02] linuxman410: were you the one here the other night looking for RAM on ebay? [00:02] KM0201 i throw nothing away that is still usable [00:03] KM0201 that was probably me [00:04] linuxman410: i know i gave someone a link to some RAM on ebay... [00:04] cuz they only had lik 128mb [00:04] KM0201 i have some ddr2 but nothing that uses it bought at yardsale [00:04] hmm [00:04] prolly wasn't you then [00:05] KM0201 i have plenty of pc 133 and rambus [00:05] rambus.. that crap was expensive. [00:06] and yeah, he was looking for PC133.. only had 128mb and we found 2x512 on Ebay for under $18, including shipping..lol [00:06] new [00:06] KM0201 i have 40 pieces of rambus [00:06] dang. [00:07] KM0201 i have about 50 pieces 133 [00:08] every time i part out a computer i keep harddrive and ram [00:08] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing [00:09] that was all related to RIMMs [00:09] wow [00:11] KM0201 i have computers for sale on ebay [00:11] stuff i do not need [00:11] linuxman410: yeah, i'm not much of an ebayer [00:13] KM0201 i buy and sell computers on there [00:13] ebay is to much hassle, i don't like it [00:14] yeah i know a guy ripped me off now i have to file claim to get money back [00:16] be right back [00:25] i am back [00:25] wb... o/ [00:27] KM0201 that ram fit this junk dell i upgraded from 512 to a gig of ram [00:27] well, thats good [00:28] KM0201 now i have lubuntu running with gig of ram [02:06] hello [02:08] phillw: hey is there somewhere where the channel guidelines are posted that we can reference in the topic? [02:09] stlsaint: the channel guidelines are issued by chanserv? [02:12] phillw: i dont know [02:13] !hi [02:13] !hi | stlsaint [02:13] head_victim: heyo [02:13] hah sorry, that's deleted [02:13] It's meant to be channel guidelines [02:13] !guidelines [02:13] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [02:14] head_victim: who deleted it? :( [02:14] phillw: no idea I just search the database [02:14] !factoid [02:14] Hi! I'm #lubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [02:14] alright lemme try this === stlsaint changed the topic of #lubuntu to: Topic for #lubuntu: Welcome to #lubuntu || Please use #lubuntu-offtopic for general chat || Lubuntu 11.04 is available via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu (please use the torrent feed). || Always follow the channel guidelines. [02:15] Might you be looking for !ask ? === stlsaint changed the topic of #lubuntu to: Topic for #lubuntu: Welcome to #lubuntu || Please use #lubuntu-offtopic for general chat || Lubuntu 11.04 is available via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu (please use the torrent feed). || Always follow the channel guidelines. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [02:16] W00T DragonEyes [02:16] ;lurk [02:16] stlsaint: have you sorted it? [02:17] I'll tell DE to leave.. [02:17] ;part #lubuntu [02:17] i just used chanserv its cool ;) [02:18] we each have our preferred methods, i like DE and am allowed him on here for admin stuff :) [02:19] yea i like de as well, just saw he wasnt in here at the time so went with CS [02:21] stlsaint: He is not allowed full time on here, #lubuntu is an official channel. you can ask to ;join for admin, but do need to tell him to ;part afterwards. [02:24] phillw: aye, gotcha [02:26] stlsaint: you will have seen him on offtopic === semitones_ is now known as semitones [03:02] my sister is gonna test lubuntu this night. lets hope for the best. hehe! I explained a little how to use it, including why apps may crash out of the blue (out of memory) - and that may be happening since we are running from the pendrive. [03:08] harddrive failure on duct tape dell [03:23] trakinas: How much ram does it have? [03:23] Unit193: 512 [03:24] trakinas: but running from the pendrive + some applications like Chromium/FF puts memory consumption to 400+/- [03:24] according to top and free [03:28] Firefox... Not so lightweight. Has she tried it yet? [03:34] Unit193: not yet. if she think it is too have, I will tell her to use Chromium or Opera. [03:37] trakinas: Have you taken a look at Arora? [03:39] Unit193: yep. we are testing ditros before getting one for real. [03:39] but I don't recall aurora being lighter than lubuntu [03:39] it seems like they are now using gnome... [03:41] Arora is a web browser [03:41] !info arora [03:41] ops [03:41] arora (source: arora): simple cross platform web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.10.2-1ubuntu3 (natty), package size 1497 kB, installed size 4080 kB [03:41] With all the names, it can get mixed up [03:42] I got confused with: auroraos.org [03:43] I will have a look! if it has flash and a decent js engine, I think it is ok. I don't recall her using her eeepc for banking stuff (meaning: java) [03:46] hmmmm... I wonder how much qtlib will consume of diskspace [03:46] 40mb +/- ? [03:47] That I don't know [03:53] thanks [04:48] gtg! cheers all [05:04] Unit193: u around? [05:04] KM0201: Not exactly [05:04] ah, ok. [05:04] no worries [05:04] May as well ask... [05:04] i'm having a weird problem that will probably take you a bit.. dn't want to keep you [05:05] i changed my icon for Audacious, the same way i did for skype (and it works perfectly... however, after i change mmy icon for audacious.. i can't open the program, i get this in terminal... http://pastebin.com/TGj7D9gT if i change the icon back, it works perfectly [05:05] i posted it earlier. [05:07] maybe bioterror will be along... [05:09] I have never used audacious, but you changed the file back or used a backup? [05:09] Unit193: once i changed it back(and it worked) the other time, i purged audacious and reinstalle dit, and it worked [05:10] but if i set it to my custom image, thats what i get. [05:10] i know the path is right, cuz like i said, my skype icon is in that same folder, and when i modified skype.desktop it works perfectly [05:16] and how did you change icon? from .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ ? [05:32] bioterror: yup... /usr/share/application/audacious.desktop edited the icon path, to point at the icon i wanted.. .it works perfect for skype.. audacious, i get that error. [05:33] bioterror: obviously, the error is saying something, but it is total greek to me [05:42] bioterror: no ideas? [06:25] Running Lubuntu 11.04 ....Just installed gnome-screenshot ....when I press print screen key a screenshot of the entire Desktop gets saved in home ....I want to grab a specific area [06:27] john_rambo: choose "grab current window"... then set the grab delay for say.. 5-6sec... click take screen shot, then immediately click the window you want to screenshot [06:27] after a second, youi'll get the image of just that window, then save it [06:28] KM0201, "grab current window" but how ? Where ? I dont see those options [06:28] are you sure you installed gnome-screenshot? [06:29] KM0201, when I press print screen key a screenshot of the entire Desktop gets saved in home [06:29] john_rambo: oh ok.. now i see... go to menu/accessories/take screen shot [06:29] then you'll ee what i'm talking about [06:29] (again, assuming you installed gnome-screenshot) [06:30] KM0201, Yes, found it ...it wasn't there before installing gnome-screenshot ......Thanks [06:30] john_rambo: yeah, it's not, unless you install gnome screenshot... np [06:54] KM0201, not at the moment. I think I have to try myself :D [06:54] bioterror: lol [06:54] i'm not really sure whats wrong.. cuz it works fine w/ Skype.. so i know i did it right (the two icons are in the same folder in my home folder) [06:55] poor john [06:55] wy poor john? [06:55] didnt get it that prntscreen is binded in openbox to scrot [06:55] i was gonna tell him, but he bolted to quick. [06:56] people are too fast paced nowdays [06:56] always in a hurry [06:56] i imagine if one were so inclined, you could change prtsc to point at gnome-screenshot (it's a better screenshot utility anyway) [06:58] i can guarantee scrot fetches less gnome deps :D [06:58] oh i'm sure [07:03] There doesn't happen to have a space in the pic name? [07:03] Unit193: negative... [07:03] good thinking though [07:04] Unit193: actually, the pic originally had a capital A in the title, and i thought maybe that was the prob, so i renamed it to lowercase... [07:04] Unit193: tried putting the path in quotes [07:04] its weird. [07:04] the icon changes, like its supposed to [07:04] but when i try to open the program, i get the error i pastebinned earlier [07:08] Is the pic the same formet as skype? (Reaching for the stars here...) [07:09] Unit193: affirmative [07:09] both .pngs [07:09] you know.. [07:09] just for grins [07:09] i can try changing audacious to the skype png... and see if i still have th eproblem [07:10] lemme try that real quick [07:13] Unit193: its gotta be something w/ that png file [07:13] cuz when i changed to my custom skyp eicon (which i know works, cuz it works w/ skype)... i get the same problem [07:13] but how on earth could a png image cause that [07:14] hmm, weird.. audacious for some reason, just doesn't like custom icons. [07:14] cuz when i change it back to the default icon... it starts working again [07:15] put that broken image to skype [07:15] bioterror: ok [07:15] and does skype work with it [07:15] checking now.. [07:16] nope, skype started [07:16] so its something w/ audacious [07:16] make a bug raport ;) [07:16] never thought of doing that.. that just confirms it's a problem w/ audacious. [07:16] lol, i have no idea how on earth i'd explain it...lol [07:17] i can't believe i actually found a bug, that likely nobody else has figured out. [07:22] my guess is, bioterror someone would read that bug report and wonder what the heck i was doing, and flush it [07:23] lol [07:25] KM0201: Have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs and post the bug # when you are done [07:28] Unit193: do you think that bug is specifically limited to lxde? [07:28] i'm guessing it is. [07:33] I would try it on my Xubuntu, but it's 3:30 and my brain is dead (I should be be getting to sleep as I've been busy) [07:33] Unit193: i fell asleep earlier, so i'm wide awake [07:35] Unit193: but sometimes i read launchpad and i think, who on earth would sit around to find a bug that obscure [07:35] and sure enough, i think i found a pretty obscure one [07:35] lol [11:11] Hi, I've got an ASUS EEEPC and I'd like to use the power button to show the shutdown menu [11:17] really [11:18] power-manager doesnt work here [11:18] I have "when power button is pressed: ask" [11:18] and didnt ask anything [13:28] the calendar applet looks like the gnome 'buntu one but has less features (ex: adding other timezones). normal? [14:09] what is causing that black area ? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30630174/lubuntu.png ... When I move the a window over it it goes away [14:20] in my office's computer ocurr the same, but in my home pc not. I think that is the video driver, is the only diference between my pcs. [14:24] can anyone walk me through setting up a bluetooth headset? [14:24] I just want to use it as an audio sink [16:24] greetings [16:25] has Lubuntu had probs with PCManFM also? [16:25] kristian-aalborg: seems to work fine for me.. what probs are you referring to [16:25] I've had all kinds of problems with it recently [16:26] segfaults, you name it [16:26] like?.. i've actually had zero issues with it. [16:26] yes, me too on Lubuntu [16:26] KM0201, what version? [16:26] kristian-aalborg: of pcman, or of lubuntu? [16:26] 11.04 on lubuntu [16:26] !backtrace | kristian-aalborg [16:26] kristian-aalborg: To get a backtrace of a failing application please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace [16:26] and pcman? [16:26] pcman looks like 0.9.9 [16:27] hurm === Guest14447 is now known as MichealH [19:06] hey everyone, I've got a problem with my lubuntu install -- it isn't usable at the moment [19:07] here's the backstory: for as long as I remember, before the login screen I'd get an X11 message saying "Xsession: unable to launch "startlxde" session - "startled" not found; falling back to default session." [19:07] semitones-tea: take 2 aspirins and call me in the morning [19:07] this weekend we moved the computer from one side of the room to the other. Now after that message shows up, and you click ok, you just get a blank black screen [19:08] switching to a virtual terminal sends the monitor out of its frequency range, and then the computer has to be restarted [19:08] semitones-tea: old monitor? [19:09] yes it's a CRT from the 90's but it has always worked [19:09] also, s/startled/startlxde/ in the above error [19:10] the lubuntu that's on there is 10.04 [19:11] I booted from a natty live-cd just now, but it dropped me into a terminal screen [19:12] semitones-tea: test on a different monitor? possible? [19:12] unfortunately that's not possible at the moment [19:15] semitones-tea: well i don't think bad m/b or p/s or ram can yield such a symptom (with a live cd). sounds like your monitor can no longer be probed [19:16] how can I start lxde from the commandline? [19:16] i want to see if the live-cd can do what the hdd install cannot [19:22] semitones-tea: i guess you'll need an xorg.conf file first [19:25] I found another monitor to test, trying that [19:29] now grub seems to be broken [19:30] "invalid boot drive, insert bootable floppy into drive A:" [19:36] How do you start the gui from cli? [19:37] /join #ubuntu-offtopic [19:37] argh [19:39] can anyone walk me through setting up a bluetooth headset? [19:39] I just want to use it as an audio sink [19:39] install blueman or something like that bluez [19:39] so far, this works: aplay -D btheadset -f s16_le ~/randomfile.wav [19:39] bioterror, that was the first thing I did [19:40] thanks for replying btw :) [19:40] aplay -l returns only my soundcard [19:40] I've never used bluetooth as headset [19:40] I trust in cables [19:53] any idea how to start lubuntu from the commandline? [19:53] on a live cd [19:53] semitones-tea, startlubuntu [19:53] ty [19:54] bioterror, it exits without doing anything at all [19:54] does it prompt anything [19:54] no [19:55] just gives me a blank new line [19:55] check your logs [19:55] it's a live cd [19:55] which logs [19:55] /var/log/Xorg.0.log [19:55] for example [19:57] looks like it failed to load nv and is using nouveau [19:57] other than that i don't see any errors [20:00] nvidia <3 [20:02] so there's no hope? [20:02] also which live cd is better, 10.04 or 10.10 [20:02] 11.04 [20:02] that's what I'm using now and it sucks [20:03] can't even boot into gui [20:03] what's your graphics card? [20:05] I forget but it's an agp 4x nvidia one [20:05] it could play Halo but not with very high graphics [20:08] probably no support for it [20:08] use VESA ;) [22:26] hello [22:26] will lubuntu works good in this machine? [22:26] Hostname: nice-laptop - OS: Linux 2.6.32-32-generic/i686 - CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo (1000.000 MHz) - Processes: 161 - Uptime: 12m - Load Average: 0.60 - Memory Usage: 293.55MB/2004.29MB (14.65%) - Disk Usage: 35.30GB/145.96GB (24.19%) [22:26] or is it just for slow machines? [22:26] should run [22:26] no, it's not just for slow machines [22:27] it's also for people who wants to have a sleek desktop and use resources for something useful [22:27] you use it? [22:27] my wife uses atm. [22:27] I'm gonna try it right now [22:28] give it a shot! [22:28] is there netinstall? [22:28] you can only win ;) [22:28] no [22:28] or yo can take mini.iso [22:28] and then do sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop [22:28] what is it about [22:28] oh [22:28] no I will download the whole iso [22:28] :) [22:28] I'm just going to partiotonate my disk, I want ot save 10GB of files, then I will use the other disk to lubuntu and erase ubuntu [22:29] hmmm [22:29] you can turn your ubuntu into lubuntu [22:29] just install lubuntu-desktop [22:29] and then [22:29] !purelxde [22:29] If you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde » [22:29] but the whole files will be there [22:29] o.O [22:29] I like clean install I guess [22:29] n-iCe, lubuntu is much faster then ubuntu. [22:29] it is lightweighted also [22:30] I did not like ubuntu 11.04 I am in 10.04 [22:30] But I want something newer kernel/drivers, etc [22:30] would lubuntu a good option, aight? [22:30] n-iCe, lubuntu is based on ubuntu. [22:30] you can run ubuntu 11.04 in gnome 2 mode [22:30] so you will get all the kernel and drivers that are new [22:30] in lubuntu natty [22:31] me myself run ubuntu but have login option on lubuntu :) [22:31] ubuntu 10.10 [22:32] rebooting to the partitiong thing [22:32] thanks! brb [22:33] n-iCe, next release of ubuntu will give users 6 month of updates (closed driver) för there nvidia and I think ati cards also. [22:36] damn, the .iso of gparted seems to not be working [22:36] the lastest .iso [22:36] gets freeze [22:36] anyone knows any other good usb partition software? [22:37] are you trying to format your usb? [22:37] use unetbootin to put your 11.04 lubuntu into your usb, boot it, apt-get gparted and you know the rest [22:37] no, I will partition my disk [22:38] first, want to save some files in a disk space [22:38] n-iCe, you can partition during the installation. [22:38] I need to boot in the partition manager before partition my using disk [22:38] yeah, but can I move a folder to the partition space? [22:38] if you have partition before it will be easy [22:38] while the installation? [22:38] :) why not move after installation? [22:39] because I want to use the whole disk :) [22:39] but yes before you format you can move files from one folder to another [22:39] only leave 10GB for my files [22:41] I have 20 gb for / (system partition). [22:41] 2 gb for swap [22:41] and rest for home [22:43] I am downloading lubuntu [22:44] Kurdistan: how much ram does your system have? [22:45] I have 2 gb of ram [22:45] ic [22:45] :) I normally tweak so I dont use it [22:45] but normally a person should have twice the ram [22:46] yeah, i only use swap when i'm hibernating/sleeping... so... i always make it double my ram [22:46] what's twick [22:46] tweak [22:46] is it good hibernate? [22:47] n-iCe: it doesn't bother me, some machines do not wake up like they are supposed to [22:47] mine are fine [22:47] but is it better to completly shut down or not [22:49] KM0201, my suspend work without have swap on :) [22:50] your lucky [22:53] :) yes I am [23:20] lot of forums and sites over the internet tell me to set my wireless interface to rate 5.5M fixed, but seems this slow all, but at least I can surf the web, what can I do to solve it? [23:31] n-iCe: why do you need to do that?.. i've never made any adjustments like that [23:31] whast your device? [23:31] AWUS036H [23:32] .. [23:32] what chipset? [23:37] realtek [23:37] rtl8187 [23:47] n-iCe: that should workw/o issue i'm pretty sure, i have one ... and it works great, no problems, configuring, etc. [23:47] plug it in, it works