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| MrCurious | does anyone have a favorite version of ubuntu that works reasonably well on pandaboard? | 00:30 |
|---|---|---|
| infinity | MrCurious: natty works fine on Panda. | 02:13 |
| GrueMaster | infinity: This thing is wonderfully designed. HDMI adaptor puts the cable exactly on top of the power/reset buttons. | 02:27 |
| GrueMaster | Quickstart, that is. | 02:27 |
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| infinity | GrueMaster: I'm no longer sad that I didn't spring for the HDMI module for mine. | 02:35 |
| GrueMaster | Meh. I have the power of remote control via serial relay (same power as Panda). | 02:36 |
| * GrueMaster wishes he could figure out why there is a 1.5s lag in irc. | 02:36 | |
| infinity | Reconnect to a US server? | 02:37 |
| GrueMaster | It is. Always. | 02:37 |
| GrueMaster | (I think). | 02:37 |
| infinity | You're on a Bulgarian server right now. | 02:37 |
| infinity | hitchcock.freenode.net [Sofia, BG, EU] | 02:38 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: You might want to use irc.us.freenode.net instead of irc.freenode.net (the latter includes EU in the round-robin) | 02:39 |
| GrueMaster | Switching. | 02:39 |
| infinity | Better? | 02:40 |
| GrueMaster | Am I here? | 02:41 |
| GrueMaster | Am I here? | 02:41 |
| GrueMaster | Not sure. | 02:41 |
| GrueMaster | Gah. 2.5s lag. | 02:41 |
| GrueMaster | And this is a server in Corvallis, OR. | 02:41 |
| infinity | Weird. I'm on the same server as you with 0 issues. | 02:42 |
| infinity | Hunt down the torrenting kids? :) | 02:42 |
| GrueMaster | They're at the cost. Pandora is the only consumer here. dsl-modem showing low traffic. | 02:42 |
| GrueMaster | Whoa. desktop loadavg: 5.84. hrm. | 02:43 |
| GrueMaster | grrr. Firefox (Lucid). | 02:44 |
| GrueMaster | 25% CPU. | 02:45 |
| GrueMaster | Must be Jenkins. This is going to be a fugly cycle. | 02:46 |
| infinity | I blame flash. | 02:46 |
| infinity | Or Jenkins, sure. ;) | 02:46 |
| GrueMaster | Nope. Not running flash. | 02:46 |
| GrueMaster | Even my server is feeling stressed. | 02:46 |
| GrueMaster | Sigh. Guess I will need to dedicate my spare core2duo w/ 4G ddr2-800 to Jenkins. It requires Natty anyways and most of my infrastructure here is LTS (Lucid). | 02:47 |
| infinity | I do love that every time someone re-invents the CI wheel, they make it even less efficient in the name of elegance and/or abstraction. | 02:49 |
| Martyn | Cl wheel? | 02:50 |
| infinity | CI. Continuous Integration. | 02:50 |
| GrueMaster | Hrm. Bandwidth is good. Not stellar, but 5.6M/750 isn't bad (with pandora running on my chumby). | 02:51 |
| Martyn | infinity : Heh.. yeah | 02:51 |
| Martyn | infinity : I deal with bamboo all the time at work .. Atlassian. It works, but it's clunky | 02:51 |
| Martyn | and it's support for git is very basic | 02:52 |
| GrueMaster | Quickstart seems to be drawing power from either my USB, ethernet, or hdmi. weird. Not enough to do anything, but enough to make the power LED glow. | 02:54 |
| infinity | I just seem to be going backwards with CIs, as far as system overhead. | 02:54 |
| infinity | Tinderbox (perl) -> Buildbot (python) -> Jenkins (java) | 02:55 |
| infinity | Not that the implementation language means anything, but in this case, the systems seem to match the stereotypes usually leveled at people who use them. | 02:55 |
| StevenK | Buildbot is horrible | 02:56 |
| StevenK | The sooner I have to stop caring about it, the better | 02:56 |
| infinity | Tinderbox is simple, gets the job done, quick. Buildbot is a bit more modular, a bit more complex, reasonably quick about it. Jenkins is massively complex, and... Everything that goes with it. | 02:56 |
| GrueMaster | Personally, I don't care what it is running, as long as it WORKS. | 02:57 |
| infinity | StevenK: I despised buildbot as a tinderbox replacement, but it kinda does the job. And doesn't bring machines to its knees just by existing. | 02:57 |
| StevenK | steven@hudson:~$ uptime | 02:57 |
| StevenK | 01:57:36 up 311 days, 7:04, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | 02:57 |
| StevenK | My Jenkins VPS ^ | 02:57 |
| infinity | StevenK: "bring to knees" doesn't always imply downtime. :P | 02:58 |
| StevenK | No, it implies heavy load | 02:58 |
| infinity | Is it doing anything at all currently? | 02:58 |
| StevenK | Sure, it uses slaves to do the building :-) | 02:58 |
| infinity | I dunno. I've not used it locally, to be fair. Just heard horror stories from others about CPUs spinning out of control. | 02:58 |
| StevenK | infinity: https://lpci.wedontsleep.org/ if you care | 02:58 |
| StevenK | I understand you may not :-) | 02:59 |
| infinity | I'll care when someone tells me I have to care about it. | 02:59 |
| StevenK | Haha | 03:00 |
| StevenK | Next you'll tell me I don't count. | 03:00 |
| infinity | You count when you send me large bags of money. | 03:00 |
| GrueMaster | Nice. Now to figure out how to use it on my panda farm. | 03:00 |
| StevenK | s/money/Australian lamb/ ? | 03:00 |
| infinity | Money doesn't spoil in the mail. | 03:01 |
| StevenK | That's a solvable problem | 03:02 |
| Openfree` | possible recursive locking detected? anyone encounter the same problem on pandaboard? | 03:14 |
| Openfree` | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/429588/ | 03:14 |
| Openfree` | I have problem to use pvr driver | 03:15 |
| Openfree` | I'm using http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/l/linux-ti-omap4/linux-ti-omap4_2.6.38-1208.11.tar.gz | 03:17 |
| infinity | Openfree`: Try using our toolchain too... | 03:20 |
| infinity | Openfree`: No guarantees (in fact, it's pretty unlikely) that Gentoo's 4.5.2 contains all the fixes from recent upstream, Debian, Ubuntu, and Linaro GCC 4.6.x | 03:21 |
| infinity | Openfree`: (Same argument goes for binutils) | 03:22 |
| Openfree` | infinity, so ,you suggest use GCC 4.6.x? it would be to use ubuntu toolchain for gentoo user, you know... so I would like to know which patches I may need, or just upgrade | 03:30 |
| infinity | Openfree`: I'd suggest using either Oneiric's toolchain or Linaro's (both GCC and binutils), yes. I wouldn't be the man to ask to dissect which patches you might need on top of an upstream checkout. | 03:32 |
| Openfree` | infinity, but looking at the log, it shouldn't be the problem of toolchain side.. well I will try 2.6.38-1309.13, then see what happens | 03:34 |
| Openfree` | infinity, anyway, thanks for your help | 03:34 |
| Openfree` | Ok, I will try to ask at #linaro, see if any helps | 03:35 |
| MrCurious | or do i misinterpret | 05:09 |
| MrCurious | oops | 05:10 |
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| kunguz | everytime , I had to call "sudo lxdm" to start desktop session, how do I start automatically at the boot | 10:10 |
| woglinde | make an upstart file? | 10:11 |
| kunguz | woglinde: how do I do it? :(, | 10:11 |
| kunguz | woglinde: is this the file /etc/init.d/rc? | 10:13 |
| woglinde | no | 10:14 |
| woglinde | look into /etc/init | 10:14 |
| woglinde | and learn about how to write an upstart file | 10:14 |
| kunguz | woglinde: is this an useful material to learn? | 10:16 |
| kunguz | woglinde: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html | 10:16 |
| kunguz | one other thing when I start lxde in tv:ntsc mode, nothing is displayed on the screen :( | 10:26 |
| woglinde | which screen? | 10:26 |
| woglinde | your tv? | 10:26 |
| woglinde | kunguz yes for upstart | 10:26 |
| woglinde | and there are already enough files to get the clue at /etc/init | 10:26 |
| kunguz | woglinde: I am using a pico-projector with a limited resolution 848x480 | 10:27 |
| woglinde | ? | 10:27 |
| kunguz | woglinde: I configured the startup thing, I copied a lxde.conf into the /etc/init | 10:27 |
| kunguz | woglinde: it seems to work now | 10:27 |
| kunguz | here is my boot script | 12:15 |
| kunguz | http://sudrap.org/paste/text/15678/ | 12:15 |
| kunguz | I can not see lxdm but I can display the non-gui terminal | 12:15 |
| kunguz | whenever I call sudo lxdm in the terminal, the display shows nothing with this boot script | 12:16 |
| kunguz | but if I modify it to run with dvi then I can display lxdm | 12:16 |
| kunguz | any ideas? | 12:16 |
| woglinde | problem is that the tv has to support the resolution | 12:17 |
| kunguz | woglinde: how do I set a new resolution to lxdm? | 12:19 |
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| woglinde | dont know | 12:26 |
| kunguz | woglinde: thanks anyway, I think I found some way. | 12:26 |
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| ppisati | ogra_: i'm looking at the ac100 marvin kernel | 15:06 |
| ogra_ | i'll likely switch to .38 soon with the package | 15:07 |
| ppisati | ogra_: in case i compile a new one, install it on the ac100 but it doesn't boot | 15:07 |
| ppisati | ogra_: how do i recover? | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | (currently alpha2 keeps me busy, i plan a new package after that) | 15:07 |
| ppisati | ogra_: i would like to rebase everything on top of 3.0 | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | ppisati, there is an SOS image if you hold down "home" on boot and press 1 | 15:07 |
| ppisati | ogra_: ah yes, you told me | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | ppisati, we only have graphics drivers against .38 atm | 15:08 |
| ppisati | ogra_: you mean the nvidia-graphics-drivers-tegra? | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | from the SOS image, mount your root disk under /root ... bind mount /dev to /root/dev ... chroot into /root, mount proc and sys ... then you can replace kernel and modules to your liking and just run flash-kernel to put them in place | 15:09 |
| ogra_ | yes, the nvidia driver | 15:09 |
| ogra_ | alberto just tries to make it work for us | 15:09 |
| ogra_ | i'm not sure if it would work with 3.0 | 15:10 |
| ogra_ | *having* 3.0 is surely not bad ... but i wont defualt to it unless i know the driver works | 15:10 |
| ppisati | ogra_: ok, i'm fine with it being a fallback | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | not fallback ... the future ;) | 15:11 |
| ppisati | ogra_: if it works and it's good, ok, else go with what we have | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | you might want to dropy by in #ac100 ... thats where the fun happens ;) | 15:12 |
| ppisati | yep | 15:12 |
| ppisati | as soon as i start, i'll be there | 15:12 |
| brendand | to get output from a server image for pandaboard do i need serial hooked up? | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | yes | 15:57 |
| brendand | dang | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | you could hack up the cmdline in boot.scr | 16:03 |
| ogra_ | then it would use the console | 16:03 |
| GrueMaster | brendand: You could also use the netboot-fb image to install. | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | yeah ! | 16:04 |
| GrueMaster | Requires more bandwidth though. | 16:04 |
| brendand | oh i have a ttyS0, just more setup | 16:04 |
| brendand | doing it now | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | and more patience :) | 16:04 |
| GrueMaster | Use a straight serial cable. Not null modem. | 16:05 |
| brendand | err, i never did know how to tell the difference | 16:07 |
| brendand | is it just both ends have different connections? | 16:07 |
| brendand | 1 male/1 female? | 16:07 |
| infinity | Null modem cables have crossed-over pins. | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | its about the wiring of the pins | 16:08 |
| infinity | If you didn't buy or make one specifically for the purpose, you don't have one. | 16:08 |
| brendand | anyway - is 115200 8N1 okay for settings? | 16:08 |
| infinity | Yup. | 16:09 |
| brendand | getting stuff through minicom now | 16:11 |
| brendand | thanks folks | 16:11 |
| brendand | was relatively painless | 16:11 |
| GrueMaster | We like it that way. :P | 16:11 |
| ogra_ | :) | 16:12 |
| brendand | why's the text all weird? | 16:16 |
| brendand | full of question marks | 16:16 |
| infinity | Because minicom is a lousy terminal emulator. | 16:17 |
| brendand | thought so | 16:17 |
| brendand | recommend? | 16:17 |
| brendand | screen? | 16:17 |
| NekoXP | PuTTY :) | 16:18 |
| infinity | screen works well. | 16:18 |
| infinity | Should "just work" with something like "screen /dev/ttyS0" (or whatever your serial port is) | 16:20 |
| infinity | You could tack a 115200 on the end of that if it seems to be doing the wrong thing. | 16:21 |
| brendand | last question | 16:23 |
| brendand | should i be able to do a server install with just wifi? | 16:23 |
| brendand | or do i need ethernet (which i can get if needed) | 16:23 |
| infinity | The server image has enough glue to get your wifi going, probably. But ethernet's always less hassle (except for the cable) | 16:24 |
| ogra_ | i dont think we have wireless-tools seeded in minimal | 16:25 |
| infinity | It's minimal and standard. | 16:25 |
| infinity | Most of the glue should be in standard. | 16:25 |
| infinity | Although... Maybe not anymore. I might be living in the past. | 16:26 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 16:26 |
| infinity | brendand: Either way, real servers have wires sticking out of them. ;) | 16:26 |
| ogra_ | lol | 16:26 |
| ogra_ | glorious change of mind | 16:26 |
| infinity | (wireless-tools are seeded in server, so this goes away when I get the pool on the server image) | 16:27 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 16:27 |
| ogra_ | though pool doesnt mean installed ... that might need some preseed glue | 16:28 |
| infinity | We don't want it installed by default anyway, do we? | 16:28 |
| infinity | Just there, "in case someone wants it". | 16:28 |
| ogra_ | well, its would be nice to install it on certain platforms ... | 16:29 |
| ogra_ | i.e. the panda ... | 16:29 |
| infinity | The panda has perfectly functional wired ethernet... | 16:29 |
| infinity | Maybe if you find something that ONLY has wireless, I'll hear your argument. | 16:29 |
| ogra_ | k :) | 16:30 |
| infinity | It's not like wireless in D-I is any more pleasant an experience. | 16:30 |
| infinity | Not if WPA is involved (which it usually is these days) | 16:30 |
| ogra_ | as long as we use oem-config life is a bit easier ;) | 16:30 |
| ogra_ | we could use nm-cli :) | 16:31 |
| * ogra_ ducks in case a server guy reads that | 16:31 | |
| * infinity smacks ogra. | 16:32 | |
| brendand | ICS to the rescue | 16:33 |
| infinity | Nevermind the other reasons that NM on minimal systems smacks of icky (most of which go away when dbus moves to kernel space some day), but nm-cli is also lacking enough features to be useful. | 16:33 |
| ogra_ | there is a fully working cli client | 16:34 |
| ogra_ | probably called differently | 16:34 |
| infinity | nm-cli definitely isn't "fully working", but maybe someone's written something better. | 16:34 |
| infinity | (I mean, it works, for certain simple use-cases, but it's not "fully working") | 16:34 |
| ogra_ | there was something in universe ... not sure it still exists | 16:34 |
| ogra_ | cnetworkmanager iirc | 16:36 |
| ogra_ | grmbl ... | 16:36 |
| * ogra_ curses the nvidia driver ... corrupted fonts again | 16:36 | |
| lilstevie | ogra_: wifi is being a bloody whore on the transformer :( | 17:32 |
| ogra_ | heh | 17:33 |
| ogra_ | seems a tegra illness | 17:33 |
| ogra_ | ac100 had longstanding probs too | 17:33 |
| lilstevie | how did you solve your problems | 17:34 |
| lilstevie | I can get the occasional scan to work but never connect | 17:34 |
| ogra_ | better drivers | 17:35 |
| lilstevie | heh | 17:35 |
| ogra_ | porting bits and pieces from compat-wireless etc ... | 17:35 |
| ogra_ | ask woglinde and marvin24 ... they did all of that | 17:36 |
| ogra_ | what chipset are you doomed with ? | 17:36 |
| lilstevie | bcm4329 | 17:37 |
| ogra_ | ouch | 17:37 |
| ogra_ | at least one that leaves you multiple driver options to tyr | 17:37 |
| lilstevie | driver is identical to a working one | 17:38 |
| lilstevie | I don't get it | 17:38 |
| ogra_ | try playing with the power options | 17:40 |
| ogra_ | (i.e. in iwconfig) | 17:40 |
| ogra_ | and check for rfkill | 17:40 |
| lilstevie | rfkill is only on the bluetooth part of the chipset | 17:41 |
| lilstevie | I must be overlooking something small, cause the guy who couldn't even figure out the mountpoints is claiming to have found the problem | 17:42 |
| brendand | anyone noticed that USB ports are broken on panda with the Alpha2 candidate image? | 21:09 |
| ogra_ | brendand, GrueMaster just did, yeah | 21:10 |
| brendand | GrueMaster - got a bug number? | 21:11 |
| GrueMaster | Pffft. Who needs usb? | 21:11 |
| brendand | me? | 21:11 |
| GrueMaster | Bug #791552 | 21:11 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 791552 in linux-ti-omap4 "No USB support on beagle/beagleXM" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791552 | 21:11 |
| brendand | also ethernet seems broken | 21:11 |
| ogra_ | just use a GPIO and morse code | 21:11 |
| ogra_ | who needs keyboards | 21:11 |
| GrueMaster | brendand: eth0 is on the usb bus. | 21:12 |
| brendand | used to work with natty | 21:12 |
| GrueMaster | Hey, we have two leds that can be reprogrammed. Those plus a web cam can be engineered to act as a data transmission system. | 21:12 |
| ogra_ | ah, the good old times, yeah | 21:12 |
| GrueMaster | brendand: New gcc exposes this issue. | 21:13 |
| ogra_ | natty ... when we were young | 21:13 |
| GrueMaster | natty kernel fails when built with this gcc. | 21:13 |
| GrueMaster | Also, the 20110705 server images work (as they have an older kernel). | 21:15 |
| MrCurious_ | gruemaster: whats the gcc version that works for the natty kernel and un-exposes some of the bugs? | 23:45 |
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