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| brendand | got a bug i need to raise about the volume change notification not working properly, anyone have any ideas which package it should go to? | 09:05 |
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| brendand | is there such a package as indicator-sound? | 09:08 |
| brendand | anyone can confirm this bug in Oneiric? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/805857 | 09:19 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 805857 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Volume slider in sound applet cannot be dragged easily (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 09:19 |
| brendand | jibel - that bug is quite annoying, can it be set to high at least? it's a regression from natty | 09:42 |
| brendand | if you can confirm it that is | 09:42 |
| brendand | actually it probably fits more as a medium | 09:43 |
| brendand | strictly speaking | 09:43 |
| brendand | but it's annoying me a lot :) | 09:43 |
| jibel | brendand, it's already reported. Let me find the dup | 10:11 |
| brendand | we should really have a smarter duplicate matching algorithm | 10:12 |
| jibel | brendand, bug 804009 | 10:19 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 804009 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "clicking on the volume slider closes the SoundMenu (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804009 | 10:19 |
| jibel | brendand, bug 805822 is also a known issue in Natty | 10:21 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 805822 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "manual partitioning in ubiquity doesn't allow individual changing of mount targets any more (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805822 | 10:21 |
| jibel | its in the release notes iirc | 10:21 |
| brendand | any sign of A2 yet? | 10:26 |
| jibel | brendand, we need to validate a fix for lighdm first. but you can smoketest the latest daily builds. | 10:29 |
| jibel | brendand, desktop images are on the tracker | 10:31 |
| brendand | \o/ | 10:32 |
| htorque | hey everyone! how can i append an .apport file to an existing bug? couldn't figure that one out from man apport-cli | 10:38 |
| brendand | 'apport-collect BUGNUMBER' | 10:39 |
| htorque | can't do that, that's sending too much private data :-( | 10:42 |
| htorque | i wrote the report to a file and cleaned that, should i just attach it? | 10:43 |
| brendand | htorque - bug number? | 10:43 |
| htorque | bug 805808 again | 10:44 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 805808 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "NM slow to connect through WPA2 on boot and after resuming from standby [Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 5300 & 6300] (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805808 | 10:44 |
| brendand | just making sure :) | 10:44 |
| hggdh | htorque: as a rule of thumb, we disregard .apport attachments | 12:18 |
| htorque | hggdh: k, but why doesn't apport-cli let me add it then? i can't do '-u <bug> -c <file>'. | 12:20 |
| hggdh | htorque: use 'apport-collect' to add data (i.e., attachments) to an existing bug | 12:22 |
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| pedro_ | hello hggdh! | 12:26 |
| hggdh | pedro_: good morning, sir (and jibel as well) | 12:37 |
| jibel | Good morning hggdh and pedro_ | 12:38 |
| pedro_ | good morning jibel! | 12:38 |
| pedro_ | or noon/afternoon | 12:38 |
| hggdh | hum. It rhymes | 12:38 |
| hggdh | pedro_: I guess 'good morningnoon' covers morning, noon, and afternoon | 12:41 |
| pedro_ | hahahaha | 12:41 |
| pedro_ | hggdh, now we just need a word that also covers night for the Australian folks :-P | 12:41 |
| jibel | does good mornoong suites any diurnal period too ? | 12:42 |
| hggdh | even better! It is more, ah, soundfull (or soundfool?) | 12:42 |
| hggdh | ** bug-controllers **: we have two pending membership requrest in the queue. How about looking at them? | 12:44 |
| * hggdh goes do the needful, and all that | 12:44 | |
| hggdh | jibel: do we already have a candidate? | 12:45 |
| jibel | anyone can confirm bug 805923, it's a mouse attack against lightdm | 12:45 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 805923 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm-example-gtk-greeter crashed with SIGABRT in raise() (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805923 | 12:45 |
| jibel | hggdh, yes we do. | 12:46 |
| hggdh | jibel: I will try 805923, I have to rebbot anyway | 12:47 |
| hggdh | brb | 12:47 |
| hggdh | where are my workspaces? And what happened to Unity? | 12:54 |
| hggdh | and is there a meaning to life, after all? | 12:54 |
| yofel | sure, 42 | 12:55 |
| hggdh | heh. I *knew* ;-) | 12:55 |
| * penguin42 nods | 12:55 | |
| hggdh | Can some one explain to me, in few, short, and simple sentences, what happened to Unity? | 12:56 |
| seb128 | "nothing"? | 12:56 |
| seb128 | works for me at least | 12:56 |
| hggdh | LOL | 12:56 |
| penguin42 | broken for me on OO | 12:56 |
| pedro_ | works ok for me too | 12:56 |
| seb128 | jibel, don't hammer too much on the greater it's an hello world one | 12:56 |
| seb128 | jibel, it will be replaced by the unity one when robert_ancell write it in the next weeks | 12:56 |
| * penguin42 has a recurring segfault in unity-panel-services | 12:56 | |
| ikt | ohh | 12:56 |
| seb128 | jibel, not sure it's worth opening bugs about it | 12:57 |
| ikt | is alpha 2 out? | 12:57 |
| seb128 | ikt, no, testing is just starting | 12:57 |
| hggdh | it does work for me. I lost two workspaces, gained an 'Activity' tab in the top, and all my shortcuts are gone | 12:57 |
| seb128 | ikt, it's scheduled for thursday | 12:57 |
| ikt | ah ok | 12:57 |
| seb128 | hggdh, seems like you are using gnome-shell | 12:57 |
| hggdh | bloody hell. | 12:57 |
| jibel | seb128, if a double-click is hammering what is real hammering . | 12:57 |
| seb128 | jibel, lol | 12:58 |
| hggdh | I tried so hard not to even get there... | 12:58 |
| seb128 | jibel, double click is fine, I was telling you in case you planned to hammer and open 25 bugs | 12:58 |
| hggdh | seb128: so there is a bug lurking here somewhere, will find it | 12:58 |
| seb128 | jibel, like you did for gnome-control-center to the poor rodrigo ;-) | 12:58 |
| jibel | seb128, that was not my intention :-) | 12:58 |
| seb128 | ok, great, ignore me then | 12:58 |
| seb128 | jibel, thanks for the great testing btw ;-) | 12:59 |
| hggdh | seb128: it *was* his intention, pedro_ and I can testify | 12:59 |
| seb128 | now we need to get pedro to send those bugs to GNOME | 12:59 |
| jibel | pedro_, btw there are some g-c-c bugs to upstream. | 12:59 |
| pedro_ | oh yes he said 'i'm going to open thousand of reports just so they get assigned to rodrigo' | 12:59 |
| pedro_ | i heard that | 12:59 |
| seb128 | never trust the frenchs... | 12:59 |
| seb128 | pedro_, you stop kicking in my door btw! | 13:00 |
| pedro_ | !! | 13:00 |
| pedro_ | ahahahaha! | 13:00 |
| * pedro_ hugs seb128 | 13:00 | |
| pedro_ | that was funny :-P | 13:00 |
| * seb128 hugs pedro_ | 13:00 | |
| seb128 | we just need to hide next time or I'm sure you guys will take your revenge | 13:00 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 13:01 |
| pedro_ | sleep with one eye open :-P | 13:01 |
| hggdh | heh. Nice start of day today -- I already feel happier (and I know it will pass, sigh) | 13:01 |
| * hggdh goes in 'recherche de la unity perdue | 13:02 | |
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| kamusin | am trying to get a full backtrace from a gwibber issue but I can't find which dbg package is missing, actual backtrace at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/638478/ | 16:37 |
| kamusin | any help is well received and appreciated | 16:37 |
| hggdh | kamusin: would it generate an apport report if it failed on normal usage? If so, you can use apport-retrace to grab the dbgsyms | 16:39 |
| kamusin | actually it does, but it's still incomplete , don't know why | 16:40 |
| deuxpi | gwibber is written in Python, so it does have backtraces, but it doesn't need debug symbol packages | 16:40 |
| Ampelbein | deuxpi: if the crash is in gwibber itself, yes. if the crash is in a library called from gwibber, you still need debugging symbols. | 16:43 |
| hggdh | kamusin: you can also use 'apt-file' -- ápt-file search /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/appindicator/_appindicator.so | 16:44 |
| kamusin | I did hggdh, I have installed python-appindicator-dbgsym but is still incomplete | 16:45 |
| kamusin | libappindicator1-dbgsym, libappindicator3-1-dbgsym and nothing happens.. still incomplete | 16:45 |
| hggdh | try installing libappindicator1dbgsym | 16:45 |
| hggdh | libappindicator1-dbgsym | 16:46 |
| hggdh | darn! | 16:46 |
| kamusin | yep, weeird... | 16:46 |
| kamusin | by the way, am running Oneiric | 16:47 |
| hggdh | kamusin: are all the libraries up-to-date? | 16:47 |
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| kamusin | hggdh, all is up to date | 16:47 |
| * hggdh grumbles a bit about debug libraries | 16:47 | |
| kamusin | :( | 16:48 |
| hggdh | and the python debug libraries as well, are they installed? It looks -- apart from frame 5 -- that these are calls from within Python | 16:50 |
| kamusin | ok I will check them as the last resort | 16:51 |
| kamusin | nope, nothing changed... oh god.. | 16:54 |
| jibel | hm, nice bug with dbus menu, when there are 2 windows with the same menu, dbusmenu sends the command to both not only the active window. interesting | 16:57 |
| kamusin | jibel, heh | 17:03 |
| kamusin | ok time for lunch (brb) | 17:03 |
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| Elbrus | if a bug makes the package uninstallable, what should the severity be? high? (bug 805677) | 18:41 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 805677 in lazarus (Ubuntu) "Oneiric: please rebuild lazarus, it depends on an old fpc version (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805677 | 18:41 |
| * Elbrus is wondering if he should rephrase the bug summary of his own bug | 18:41 | |
| charlie-tca | Depends on the package, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance | 18:42 |
| * Elbrus is looking into that page | 18:43 | |
| Elbrus | I would go for: A bug that has a severe impact on a non-core application. | 18:46 |
| Elbrus | so can somebody set the bug to medium for me please? | 18:46 |
| charlie-tca | done | 18:47 |
| Elbrus | charlie-tca: thanks | 18:48 |
| charlie-tca | no problem | 18:48 |
| Ampelbein | charlie-tca, Elbrus: I disagree. If the package has wrong dependencies it can't be installed at all, which (to me) is "Has a severe impact on a small portion of Ubuntu users", ergo -> High. | 18:53 |
| Ampelbein | Additionally, in this case unrelated packages fail to build from source and FTBFS bugs are of High Importance. | 18:54 |
| charlie-tca | developers would know that better than myself. I would expect them to raise it when needed | 18:59 |
| Elbrus | hmm, my package (winff) FTBFS indeed | 19:00 |
| charlie-tca | Where would I find FTBFS bugs are HIGH? It is not in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance | 19:00 |
| Elbrus | and lazarus (and fpc) doesn't have much caretakers in ubuntu.. (I am one of them) | 19:00 |
| Elbrus | as my package depends on it | 19:01 |
| micahg | Elbrus: if it won't affect the images, I'll take care of it tomorrow when I'm piloting | 19:01 |
| Elbrus | alpha image you mean? | 19:02 |
| micahg | Elbrus: right, we're frozen until thursday for those | 19:02 |
| Elbrus | right, I don't think my package or lazarus are on the image (if that is what you are talking about) | 19:02 |
| charlie-tca | Ampelbein: Where would I find FTBFS bugs are HIGH? It is not in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance | 19:03 |
| Ampelbein | charlie-tca: I guess it's not mentioned explicitly, but if you look at recent FTBFS bugs filed they are all classified as "High". | 19:04 |
| charlie-tca | I don't think I ever saw that anyone as justification to set any importantance. | 19:04 |
| Elbrus | charlie-tca: well, Debian considers them grave: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities | 19:06 |
| Elbrus | which is pretty high ;) | 19:06 |
| charlie-tca | Elbrus: I will agree with that. I think Debian grave == Ubuntu critical | 19:06 |
| micahg | hmm, I would think Debian grave = high | 19:07 |
| Ampelbein | charlie-tca: In Debian, they are RC-Critical, meaning a package gets removed from the release. In Ubuntu we generally don't remove packages from releases because they fail to build. | 19:07 |
| Elbrus | I think Debian critical == Ubuntu critical | 19:07 |
| charlie-tca | I thought grave was higher than critical in Debian? | 19:08 |
| Elbrus | nope | 19:08 |
| Elbrus | see my link | 19:08 |
| charlie-tca | Then I am wrong. | 19:08 |
| Elbrus | Amplebein: actually, the bug in question here doesn't FTBFS, it causes other packages to | 19:10 |
| Elbrus | so how does this dependecy walk through? | 19:10 |
| Elbrus | s/dependecy/dependency | 19:11 |
| Ampelbein | Elbrus: See https://launchpadlibrarian.net/74230317/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-amd64.winff_1.3.2-4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 19:11 |
| Elbrus | well, I put that in the report myself... | 19:11 |
| Elbrus | I mean, how does the severity of one bug depend on the severity of an other bug that it causes | 19:12 |
| * Elbrus hasn't reported the FTBFS for winff yet, but has it on his radar | 19:13 | |
| Ampelbein | Elbrus: If a bug is self-contained so that it only affects it's own package I consider it less serious than a bug making other packages fail. | 19:13 |
| Elbrus | I agree | 19:14 |
| Elbrus | but I can't remember that I saw this in Ubuntu's wiki's or similar | 19:14 |
| Elbrus | related question, should the FTBFS of winff be "Also affects project" or should it really be an other bug. It should be blocked by this one, but I don't know how to achieve that in launchpad | 19:18 |
| Ampelbein | Elbrus: sadly, launchpad doesn't support "Blocked" bugs like bts does :-( | 19:20 |
| Elbrus | shame | 19:20 |
| Ampelbein | Elbrus: Just use 'Also affects distribution', choose Ubuntu and the correct sourcepackage | 19:20 |
| Elbrus | Ampelbein: that is what I assumed | 19:21 |
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| valorin | Anyone around who can help get Bug #755842 noticed by the right people? It's a serious usability bug imho and it would be great to get it fixed before Oneiric. | 23:11 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 755842 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Non-maximized windows which sit on the border of a workspace move when called (affects: 25) (dups: 4) (heat: 98)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/755842 | 23:11 |
| penguin42 | well I guess it needs an importance setting - I suggest a 'Medium' ('A usability issue that does not limit the functionality of a core application' or possibly 'A bug that has a moderate impact on a core application') ? | 23:27 |
| pedro_ | which bug are you folks talking? | 23:34 |
| pedro_ | hello again btw | 23:34 |
| penguin42 | bug 755842 | 23:34 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 755842 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Non-maximized windows which sit on the border of a workspace move when called (affects: 25) (dups: 4) (heat: 98)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/755842 | 23:34 |
| pedro_ | that seems fine, yes, i've changed it to triaged/medium | 23:37 |
| penguin42 | Thanks | 23:41 |
| valorin | pedro_, Thank you. | 23:44 |
| pedro_ | you're welcome | 23:45 |
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