[01:00] <cjohnston> Happy fourth to all my friends in the states!
[05:55] <paultag> I wonder where I can find some crazy graphic artists. Like crazy good ones. Like nuts good ones, who's minds have been destroyed by LSD or similar.
[04:56] <paultag> I always wanted to see what a computer interface would look like if they sketched out some futuristic one. If it were cool enough, I'd totally implement it :)
[06:30] <AlanBell> paultag: http://gizmodo.com/5418342/ridiculous-user-interfaces-in-film-and-the-man-who-designs-them
[07:01] <dholbach> good morning
[07:04] <nigelb> morning dholbach :)
[07:05] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[07:05] <AlanBell> o/
[07:12] <dholbach> can somebody please sticky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11014204#post11014204
[07:12] <dholbach> and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11014203#post11014203
[07:19] <dholbach> nigelb, are you going to blog about the project lightning talks?
[07:19] <nigelb> dholbach: yup
[07:19] <dholbach> sweet
[07:20] <dholbach> I'll RT it
[07:20] <nigelb> Give me an hour or so t finish lunch, and will do it
[07:20] <dholbach> great
[07:20] <dholbach> thanks
[08:13] <kim0> Morning folks
[10:53] <nigelb> dholbach: did you have a page for lightning talks already, or cna I create one?
[10:54] <dholbach> nigelb, no, there's no page yet
[10:54] <dholbach> nigelb, where did we ask folks to sign up the last time?
[10:55] <nigelb> dholbach: I think I just did an UbuntuDeveloperWeek/LightningTalks page
[10:56] <dholbach> ah great
[10:56] <dholbach> sounds good! :)
[12:12] <mhall119> morning everyone
[12:14] <nigelb> hello mhall119, happy independance day!
[12:22] <mhall119> that was yesterday, but thanks
[13:43] <jcastro> good morning!
[13:43] <nigelb> Hullo jcastro!
[13:45] <nigelb> jcastro: Emmet is on askubuntu, I now consider it a success ;)
[13:46] <jcastro> heh
[13:46] <nigelb> he hit close to 600 in 3 days.
[13:46] <nigelb> That's hitting cap or almost close to cap in ifirst 3 days
[13:47] <kim0> jcastro: morning
[13:47] <nigelb> hey kim0! Missed you earlier I guess
[13:47] <jcastro> kim0: ok, what do we do today?
[13:47] <kim0> good question :)
[13:47] <kim0> I guess we'll need to talk
[13:47] <kim0> I need to run for a late lunch though
[13:47] <kim0> I'll ping you afterwards .. sounds good?
[13:48] <jcastro> sure
[13:48] <jcastro> since you are already so far ahead of me
[13:48] <jcastro> the first rule is you dictate our meetings. :)
[13:48] <kim0> hehe
[13:49] <jcastro> man
[13:49] <jcastro> the new gcal looks pretty terrible color-wise
[13:49]  * kim0 runs for some food
[13:50] <jcastro> hey dholbach
[13:52] <dholbach> hey jcastro
[13:52] <nigelb> jcastro: did you handover your sponsorship responsibilities to dholbach?
[13:52] <jcastro> afaict
[13:52] <nigelb> Just checking who's going to kill us when we break it :)
[13:52] <jcastro> dholbach: want to try a hangout now?
[13:52] <dholbach> jcastro, can you give me 5-10?
[13:52] <jcastro> sure
[13:53] <dholbach> super
[14:26] <nhandler> jcastro: You can revert to the old gcal theme if you prefer
[14:27] <jcastro> I don't see where to do that
[14:27] <jcastro> oh
[14:27] <jcastro> meh
[14:27] <jcastro> I want the new look, I just want to keep the old meeting colors
[15:43] <jcastro> jono: I'd like to have a call today
[15:47] <jono> jcastro, sounds good
[15:58] <nhandler> dholbach: So do you think we can make sure the people attending UDW are clear about the current status of lernid?
[16:01] <dholbach> jono, ^
[16:02] <dholbach> whatever is most simple and most usable is what I'm happy with
[16:02] <dholbach> and I'm happy to update the /JoiningIn page accordingly
[16:02] <jono> afaik Lernid is considered to be not ready yet for UDW
[16:04] <nhandler> That is correct. We are working to get the status changed for later in the cycle though
[16:06] <nigelb> jcastro: I have a suggestion for you
[16:06] <nigelb> jcastro: We should have something like http://input.mozilla.org
[16:06] <nigelb> Simple and efficient feedback :)
[16:06] <dholbach> nhandler, jono: AFAIK the /JoiningIn page doesn't mention it right now
[16:07] <dholbach> so I'll leave it like that for now
[16:08] <jono> cheers dholbach
[16:08] <dholbach> :)
[16:49] <jcastro> nigelb: cjohnston: hey
[16:49] <nigelb> ahoy
[16:49] <jcastro> is there a way to make class=awesome bigger?
[16:49] <jcastro> http://uds.ubuntu.com/register/
[16:50] <jcastro> I want the Register Now button to be xbox huge
[16:50] <dholbach> alright, I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!
[16:51] <AlanBell> jcastro: font-size: 60px;
[16:51] <nigelb> AlanBell: Now I hate px too
[16:52] <jcastro> in the url?
[16:52] <AlanBell> yeah, well it is 10px; at the moment
[16:52] <jcastro> <a class="awesome" href="https://forms.canonical.com/udsreq/">Register Now</a>
[16:52] <jcastro> where does the font size fit?
[16:52] <nigelb> Isn't there a style= there?
[16:52] <jcastro> no
[16:52] <AlanBell> <a class="awesome" style="font-size: 60px;" href=. . .
[16:53] <nigelb> if not, add a style="font-size: 50px;" ;)
[16:53] <nigelb> s/50/60
[16:54] <jcastro> http://uds.ubuntu.com/register/
[16:54] <jcastro> haha
[16:54] <jcastro> yeah baby!
[16:54] <jcastro> REGISTER NOW.
[16:54] <AlanBell> yay
[16:54] <nigelb> \o/
[16:56] <AlanBell> any etherpad changes required for -p?
[16:57] <nigelb> I'd like to make some changes
[16:57] <nigelb> AlanBell: Like show the link to the rewind page
[16:58] <AlanBell> yup
[16:59] <nigelb> AlanBell: If I find the time, I can give you code, if not... :)
[17:03] <AlanBell> that is just a change in summit really
[17:04] <AlanBell> one thing I would like to happen is either ISD sort something out with audio
[17:04] <AlanBell> or we link each session to the recording made by the community
[17:05] <nigelb> AlanBell: *cough* jcastro could also help sort audio
[17:05] <nigelb> summit has had an audio field for ages
[17:05] <jcastro> no clue
[17:05] <AlanBell> yes, that could do something
[17:05] <jcastro> I'm not on UDS stuff anymore
[17:05] <jcastro> I did put in a ticket to put the etherpad behind a login though
[17:05] <jcastro> for spam purposes
[17:06] <AlanBell> do they have a plan to do that?
[17:06] <jcastro> yeah
[17:35] <doctormo> AlanBell: they?
[17:42] <AlanBell> hi doctormo
[17:42] <doctormo> Hey AlanBell, how goes Ubuntu Oneric?
[17:42] <AlanBell> they being the people jcastro submitted the ticket to
[17:43] <AlanBell> my point being that authentication for etherpad is more of a "write code to do it" project than a "turn it on" activity
[17:43] <AlanBell> oneiric is going ok, just installed it to an SD card today
[17:44] <AlanBell> wanted to talk to you about loco world maps
[17:44] <doctormo> AlanBell: I can't remember if the SSO is FOSS, if not, it probably should be and at that point. they, becomes us.
[17:44] <AlanBell> hence my question do "they" have a plan
[17:45] <AlanBell> or is it something "they" would like "us" to sort out :)
[17:47] <doctormo> AlanBell: Them and Us! That's all it's ever about ;-)
[17:47] <doctormo> AlanBell: So, world maps, how can I help?
[17:48] <AlanBell> so I was messing with some maps I found on wikimedia commons
[17:48] <AlanBell> with the ID set to the country code and some javascript to make slightly pretty stuff happen
[17:48] <doctormo> svg?
[17:48] <AlanBell> then someone pointed out you had got some way already with awesomely pretty stuff
[17:49] <AlanBell> svg, yes
[17:49] <AlanBell> http://libertus.co.uk:8000/europe/
[17:51] <doctormo> AlanBell: http://fav.me/d3l1y70
[17:51] <AlanBell> nice bump :)
[17:52] <doctormo> Wrong link: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/locomap/map.svg
[17:52] <AlanBell> heh
[17:53] <AlanBell> yes, seen that, it is full of awesome
[17:53] <AlanBell> how do we make that work?
[17:54] <doctormo> AlanBell: It's svg+ajax
[17:54] <jcastro> cjohnston: mhall119: around?
[17:55] <doctormo> AlanBell: And _a lot_ of inkscape editing. Basically cutting down the path sizes so the maps are small enough to be transported.
[17:55] <doctormo> AlanBell: And you saw this one right: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/locomap/usa/locomap-fill.svg
[17:55] <AlanBell> yes, saw that one too
[17:56] <mhall119> jcastro: for a few minutes
[17:56] <mhall119> jcastro: what's up?
[17:56] <jcastro> mhall119: do I need flood insurance?
[17:56] <mhall119> depends on whether your residence is in a flood plain or not
[17:57] <maco> often if you're not on a flood plain, companies won't even sell it to you
[17:57] <mhall119> if you're within storm surge distance of the coast, you'll probably want it, most insurance that covers hurricane damage doesn't cover storm surge water damage
[17:57] <maco> (which is silly...you'd think they'd realise this means they get money for nuthin)
[17:58] <mhall119> jcastro: the property appraiser's office should tell you if you're in a flood plain or not
[17:58] <mhall119> jcastro: are you buying or renting?
[17:58] <jcastro> renting
[17:58] <doctormo> AlanBell: So what's your plan? I'm interested as an expert in svg and general javascript/svg/css guy :-D
[17:58] <mhall119> jcastro: house or apartment?
[17:59] <jcastro> apartment
[17:59] <mhall119> ok, my wife says you should look at renter's insurance with a flood clause
[17:59] <mhall119> the complex owner will have the building itself insured
[17:59] <jcastro> no, they punted me to this lady
[17:59] <jcastro> who is like blah blah
[18:00] <AlanBell> doctormo: the plan is to make it happen
[18:00] <jcastro> but I think I can skate off and make a decision later
[18:00] <mhall119> jcastro: or rent on the 2nd floor and not worry about it
[18:00] <jcastro> stairs, no thanks.
[18:00] <jcastro> :)
[18:00] <AlanBell> doctormo: want to get as much as possible of the data coming from the database rather than in the svg
[18:00] <mhall119> it's usually less bad than upstairs neighbors
[18:00] <doctormo> AlanBell: What do you mean?
[18:01] <doctormo> You wouldn't have svg files would you?
[18:01] <jcastro> mhall119: does it flood in the summer?
[18:01] <jcastro> like, do I care right now?
[18:01] <AlanBell> at the moment what I am doing is loading an unmodified SVG file from wikimedia and manipulating it using javascript
[18:01] <mhall119> flooding is fairly unusual in florida, on account of us being so flat
[18:01] <doctormo> AlanBell: As a comparison, you wouldn't say: "want as much possible data coming from the database rather than the html" (unless you meant static html)
[18:02] <mhall119> jcastro: along the coast, it's storm surge you need to worry about
[18:02] <mhall119> inland, it never floods more than a few feet
[18:02] <doctormo> AlanBell: So you need a better data source for your maps, and you probably should cache them server side, modify the svg and serve it back out.
[18:02] <mhall119> unless you live at the bottom of a dried out lake
[18:03] <mhall119> we had a developer build a neighborhood in a place called "hidden lake", which one year decided to be not so hidden
[18:03] <AlanBell> doctormo: oh ok I hadn't thought of doing it like that but that would work
[18:04] <doctormo> AlanBell: ATM, your maps are too complex for a world view, but perhaps a simpler version like mine would be better for that.
[18:07]  * AlanBell does some path simplification
[18:07] <jcastro> jono: I can go whenever you'd like
[18:07] <jono> jcastro, give me a few, wrapping up an email to the TB
[18:08] <jcastro> cool and the gang
[18:08] <AlanBell> less than half the size now
[18:10] <AlanBell> doctormo: I was thinking of starting with the world map then have a separate map for each continent
[18:10] <doctormo> AlanBell: Load in place or new page?
[18:10] <AlanBell> http://libertus.co.uk:8000/ and click europe to go to /europe etc. so you only load one continent at a time
[18:11] <AlanBell> I was thinking new page, because I didn't know any better :)
[18:15] <cjohnston> verdict is being read.. does this mean i dont have to watch this crap anymore?
[18:18] <mhall119> cjohnston: there's still appeals if the verdict is guilty
[18:18] <mhall119> and decades of future coverage if the verdict is innocent
[18:20] <cjohnston> not guilty, not guilty not guilty, guilty guilty guilty
[18:20] <cjohnston> guilty
[18:30] <jono> jcastro, ok, all set?
[18:30] <jcastro> YEAH!
[18:30] <jcastro> BRING IT.
[18:44] <jono> grabbing lunch, back soon
[19:04] <jussi> pleia2: Im guessing you arent here right now, but CONGRATULATIONS!!!
[19:05] <jussi> (For all those out of hte loop: http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=4612)
[19:06] <pleia2> jussi: I am, thank you :)
[19:06] <jussi> :D :D :D
[19:06] <jussi> pleia2: epic news, truly epic
[19:22] <greg-g> dang, now I have to wait a bit before I blog about Carrie and I's wedding that happened on Thursday
[19:22] <greg-g> pleia2: :p
[19:22] <pleia2> greg-g: oh yes, congrats!!
[19:23] <greg-g> pleia2: thanks! :)
[19:23] <jussi> greg-g: oh yeah, I saw that, google+ I think, Congratulations also!
[19:23] <greg-g> thanks much!
[19:27] <nhandler> Congratulations pleia2. It sounds like it was definitely a weekend to remember
[19:27] <pleia2> nhandler: thanks :) it sure was!
[19:28] <nigelb> greg-g!
[19:28] <nigelb> greg-g: CONGRATS!
[19:31] <kim0> Is Ubuntu not running an etherpad service .. one would be handy
[19:31] <nigelb> Also, zomg ubuntu logo! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG8mqc9XC_c
[19:31] <nigelb> kim0: pad.ubuntu.com
[19:32] <kim0> nigelb: thanks! I thought that was a uds only thing .. cool
[19:32] <greg-g> nigelb: thanks buddy! :)
[19:32] <jussi> theres also the kde one, notes.kde.org/padnamegoeshere
[19:32] <AlanBell> it is slightly optimised for summit integration, but it is just an etherpad
[19:33] <nigelb> with custom css
[20:01] <jcastro> <--- caffeine, bbiab
[20:06] <technoviking> jono: crazy busy today, would tomorrow work for you to chat
[20:24] <jono> technoviking, what about?
[20:30] <technoviking> jono: forums rebranding/upgrading delay
[20:31] <jono> technoviking, can we talk later this week, I just got back and I am knee deep in email
[20:31] <jono> maybe on Thu or Fri?
[20:31] <technoviking> jono: sure
[20:36] <jono> technoviking, thanks!
[20:36] <technoviking> no problem
[21:25] <jcastro> jono: feel free to ring me up wrt. what we're emailing about
[21:26] <jono> jcastro, I am kinda surrounded in email right now and making good progress nailing it, could you summarize in msg?
[21:26] <jono> sorry I can't chat
[21:26] <jcastro> sure
[21:44] <jono> kim0, nice post! :-)