[11:14] <lifeless> persia: when are we meeting?
[14:59]  * Daviey ponders
[15:00] <Daviey> o/
[15:01] <Daviey> Who is here for the -server meeting?
[15:02] <jamespage> Daviey: I think you might be early?
[15:02] <Daviey> crikey.. you are correct.  I'm working on UTC today it seems, you are on UTC+1
[15:04] <jamespage> lol
[15:22]  * patdk-wk is still here from the last -server meeting
[15:58] <Daviey> o/
[15:58] <m_3> hola
[16:00]  * utlemming is here for the -server meeting
[16:00] <adam_g> \o
[16:00] <smb> o/
[16:00] <jamespage> o/
[16:01] <sommer1> o//
[16:01] <RoAkSoAx> o/
[16:01] <serge_> \o
[16:02] <Daviey> smoser: around
[16:02] <Daviey> ?
[16:02] <Ursinha> hai
[16:02] <Ursinha> o/
[16:03] <Daviey> serge_: Is your net suitable to drive, as it looks like smoser is absent?
[16:03]  * serge_ waits another minute for smoser to come and take charge
[16:03] <Daviey> splendid!
[16:04] <utlemming> I though smoser is out for a couple of days
[16:04] <serge_> well we have Daviey and Ursinha  and myself, did i miss more waves?  or do we not have a quorum?
[16:04] <utlemming> At least that is what the calendar says
[16:04] <serge_> np, i'll run it.  if it's worth running
[16:04] <jamespage> o/
[16:04] <serge_> zul: around?
[16:04] <zul> yep
[16:04] <Daviey> serge_: please do.
[16:05] <serge_> don't see adam,
[16:05] <serge_> well, allright
[16:05] <serge_> #startmeeting
[16:05] <MootBot> Meeting started at 11:05. The chair is serge_.
[16:05] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:05] <serge_> [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:05] <serge_> sommer and j1mc to look at doc presentation
[16:05] <serge_> sommer1: \o
[16:06] <serge_> hm, guess i'll defer
[16:06] <sommer1> serge_:  Still working on that :-)
[16:06] <serge_> ah.  ok.  any sort of progress to report in the meeting notes?
[16:06] <serge_> [ACTION] sommer and j1mc to look at doc presentation (continued)
[16:06] <MootBot> ACTION received:  sommer and j1mc to look at doc presentation (continued)
[16:06] <sommer1> serge_: unfortunately there isn't any news at this time
[16:06] <serge_> sommer1: ok, thanks
[16:06] <serge_> [TOPIC] Oneiric Development
[16:06] <MootBot> New Topic:  Oneiric Development
[16:07] <serge_> over to Daviey
[16:07] <Daviey> o/
[16:07] <Daviey> Hoping everyone has recovered from last week, where many of us got together to try and sort out some issues.
[16:07] <Daviey> Short one this week.
[16:07] <Daviey> Our generic overview is:
[16:07] <Daviey> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-server-overview.html
[16:07] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-server-overview.html
[16:07] <Daviey> (notice the rise)
[16:07] <Daviey> Alpha 2 is this week.  We should strive to all take it for a spin, and report bugs as neccessary. Note, that handling our incoming bug count is a priority.  However, feature development also needs tackling.
[16:08] <Daviey> I imagine most people are aware of work they need to undertake, but please give me a ping if you are in any way uncertain.
[16:08] <Daviey> Thanks all!
[16:08] <serge_> worth an action?
[16:08] <serge_> [ACTION] all: test alpha2
[16:08] <MootBot> ACTION received:  all: test alpha2
[16:09] <serge_> why not
[16:09] <serge_> onward then
[16:09] <serge_> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:09] <MootBot> New Topic:  Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:09] <serge_> any to bring up?
[16:09] <serge_> team-wide hangover week?
[16:09] <Daviey> Nothing of major interest is jumping out at me.
[16:10] <serge_> ok, moving on
[16:10] <serge_> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:10] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:10] <serge_> hggdh: around?
[16:11] <serge_> hopefully enjoying some r&r.  moving on
[16:11] <serge_> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:11] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:11] <smb> Nothing in particular to bring up
[16:11] <smb> but open to questions
[16:11] <serge_> any questions for smb?
[16:12] <serge_> ok, thanks.  moving on,
[16:12] <serge_> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander)
[16:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander)
[16:12] <serge_> NCommander: around?
[16:12] <Daviey> NCommander: on holiday
[16:13] <Daviey> (is on)
[16:13] <serge_> thx :)  moving on
[16:13] <serge_> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community
[16:13] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community
[16:13] <serge_> any issues/updates/issues to bring up?
[16:14] <serge_> those crickets are too loud
[16:14] <serge_> [TOPIC] Open Discussion
[16:14] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open Discussion
[16:14] <Daviey> Well
[16:14] <Daviey> m_3, utlemming and Ursinha ... welcome to the team!
[16:15] <m_3> new guy says hi
[16:15] <m_3> Daviey: thanks
[16:15] <Daviey> Joining the ranks of the Server Team this month were Ben Howard (utlemming), who will mainly be tasked with building upon the success of the cloud images. Mark Mims (m_3), who is already knee deep in ensemble (additionally sporting the best side burns in the team). Ursula Junque (Ursinha) joined as the defect analyst (poached from Launchpad QA), and is already doing a great job of showing us where we fail.
[16:15] <RoAkSoAx> m_3: utlemming Ursinha welcome!!
[16:15] <serge_> welcome!
[16:15] <Ursinha> thanks!
[16:15] <jamespage> welcome to the team guys!
[16:15] <utlemming> excited to be here (well, virtual here anyway)
[16:16] <serge_> i gather the sprint rocked?
[16:17] <Daviey> serge_: sure did!
[16:17] <serge_> alrighty, let's wrap this one up
[16:17] <serge_> [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time
[16:17] <MootBot> New Topic:  Announce next meeting date and time
[16:17] <serge_> Tuesday 2011-07-12 at 1600 UTC
[16:17] <serge_> (had to check my calendar :)
[16:17] <serge_> thanks all.
[16:17] <serge_> #endmeeting
[16:18] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:18.
[16:18] <Daviey> (shortest meeting ever)
[16:18] <jamespage> \o/
[16:20] <smb> Lets see whether we can beat that today with our speedmaster away... :)
[16:55] <apw> smb, oh we can do fast
[16:56] <smb> No doubt on that. Though not the usual people this time. So it may be a tad slower
[16:57] <apw> you are assuming i will wait for you :)
[16:57] <smb> heh
[16:57] <smb> Given that list you have to wait for the ouput queue to drain at least. :)
[16:58] <apw> it seems unlikely we will set a new record
[16:58] <apw> i am not usain bold
[16:58] <apw> i am not usain bolt
[16:59]  * cking notes we need to type faster
[16:59] <ppisati> o/
[16:59] <herton> o/
[16:59]  * smb counts down the last minute
[16:59] <cking> o/
[16:59] <kamal> \o
[16:59] <smb> o/
[16:59] <Daviey> o/
[17:00] <apw> #startmeeting
[17:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 12:00. The chair is apw.
[17:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[17:00] <apw> ##
[17:00] <apw> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <apw> ##
[17:00] <apw> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <apw> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <apw> #
[17:00] <apw> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
[17:00] <apw> #       'o/' indicates you have something you'd like to add (wait until you are recognized)
[17:00] <apw> #
[17:00] <apw> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:00] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:00] <ppisati> Kernel development: usual CVE fixes across different branches.
[17:00] <ppisati> Oneiric/ti-omap4: we reached an agreement with agreen/linaro to get the TI BSP on top of a vanilla kernel, as a result a new oneiric/master-next-based kernel is in the work - see git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ppisati/ubuntu-oneiric.git ti-omap4-next. Still a WIP, kernel panics on boot ATM, do not use.
[17:00] <ppisati> ..
[17:01] <apw> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Regressions (smb)
[17:01] <MootBot> New Topic:  Release Metrics and Incoming Regressions (smb)
[17:01] <smb> [17:01] <smb> [LINK] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ogasawara/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <smb> [17:01] <smb>  * 30 linux kernel bugs (up 10)
[17:01] <smb> [17:01] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ogasawara/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <smb>  * 1 linux kernel bugs (up 1)
[17:01] <smb> [17:01] <smb>  * 0 linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <smb> [17:01] <smb>  * 24 linux kernel bugs (down 1)
[17:01] <smb> [17:01] <smb>  * 3 linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <smb> [17:01] <smb>  * 8 linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <smb> [17:01] <smb>  * 0 linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <smb> [17:01] <smb>  * 33 oneiric bugs (up 5)
[17:01] <smb>  * 1367 natty bugs (up 21)
[17:01] <smb>  * 1119 maverick bugs (up 3)
[17:01] <smb>  * 1036 lucid bugs (up 4)
[17:01] <smb>  * 39 hardy bugs (up 1)
[17:01] <smb> [17:01] <smb> [17:01] <smb>  * 0 oneiric bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <smb>  * 5 natty bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <smb>  * 43 maverick bugs (up 1)
[17:02] <smb>  * 81 lucid bugs (up 2)
[17:02] <smb>  * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <smb> [17:02] <smb>  * 1 oneiric bugs (up 1)
[17:02] <smb>  * 447 natty bugs (down 3)
[17:02] <smb>  * 246 maverick bugs (down 1)
[17:02] <smb>  * 224 lucid bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <smb>  * 2 hardy bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <smb> [17:02] <smb>  * 0 oneiric bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <smb>  * 2 natty bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <smb>  * 1 maverick bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <smb>  * 0 lucid bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <smb>  * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <smb> ..
[17:02] <apw> [TOPIC] BluePrint: other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review (apw)
[17:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  BluePrint: other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review (apw)
[17:02] <apw> The remaining work items here are all tasks to review and upstream patches;
[17:02] <apw> apw, lag, manjo, rsalveti, and tgardner please review your item and push
[17:02] <apw> it out to oneiric-alpha-3 if you are not going to complete it this week.
[17:02] <apw> ..
[17:02] <apw> [TOPIC] BluePrint: other-kernel-o-version-and-flavours (ogasawara)
[17:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  BluePrint: other-kernel-o-version-and-flavours (ogasawara)
[17:02] <apw> Nothing outstanding for oneiric-alpha-2.
[17:02] <apw> ..
[17:03] <apw> [TOPIC] BluePrint: other-kernel-o-server-requirements (smb)
[17:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  BluePrint: other-kernel-o-server-requirements (smb)
[17:03] <smb> Xen items done
[17:03] <smb> seccomp in progress
[17:03] <smb> ..
[17:03] <apw> [TOPIC] Status: Development Kernel Team (apw)
[17:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Status: Development Kernel Team (apw)
[17:03] <apw> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric
[17:03] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric
[17:03] <apw> Overall we are progressing well, the kernel is stabalising nicely and
[17:03] <apw> regressions and bugs seem tractable at this time.  We have a number of
[17:03] <apw> outstanding tasks for oneiric-alpha-2 which likely will slip further,
[17:03] <apw> most are upstreaming tasks and as such not release critical.
[17:03] <apw> ..
[17:03] <apw> [TOPIC] Development kernels - Oneiric (apw)
[17:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Development kernels - Oneiric (apw)
[17:03] <apw> The oneiric kernel is currently at 3.0-3.4 which is based on 3.0-rc5 from
[17:04] <apw> mainline.  As well as the mainline kernel update this kernel also dropped
[17:04] <apw> the ARM versatile flavour which is deprecated.
[17:04] <apw> We are in milestone freeze for oneiric-alpha-2 which releases this upcoming
[17:04] <apw> thursday.  We expect to upload an upstream 3.0-rc6 kernel as soon as the
[17:04] <apw> freeze lifts.
[17:04] <apw> ..
[17:04] <apw> [TOPIC] Status: Stable Kernel Team (herton)
[17:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  Status: Stable Kernel Team (herton)
[17:04] <herton> The commits responsible for the known regressions in Lucid and Natty
[17:04] <herton> were identified, so their kernel packages are not being held anymore. So
[17:04] <herton> everything is progressing so far in the SRU workflow process.
[17:04] <herton> Status now is:
[17:04] <herton> * Hardy: kernel in -proposed is in verification. One bug remaining to
[17:04] <herton>   be verified.
[17:04] <herton> * Lucid: Currently in verification. In the end of verification phase it
[17:04] <herton>   should progress to qa/regression testing and for security-signoff.
[17:04] <herton> * Maverick: Currently in verification. No regressions so far. Two bugs
[17:04] <herton>   remaining to be verified.
[17:04] <herton> * Natty: Passed verification, security-signoff done. Waiting for
[17:04] <herton>   regression-testing to start, and going through certification testing.
[17:04] <herton> * Current SRU status is here:
[17:04] <herton>   http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:04] <herton> ..
[17:04] <apw> [TOPIC] Security & bugfix kernels - Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (herton)
[17:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  Security & bugfix kernels - Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (herton)
[17:05] <herton> ||
[17:05] <herton> || Current Kernel versions are always available here: http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/versions.html
[17:05] <herton> ||
[17:05] <herton> || Package                                    || Upd/Sec              || Proposed             ||  TiP || Verified ||
[17:05] <herton> ||                                            ||                      ||                      ||      ||          ||
[17:05] <herton> || hardy    linux                             || 2.6.24-29.90         || 2.6.24-29.91         ||    4 ||        3 ||
[17:05] <herton> || lucid    linux-meta-lts-backport-natty     ||                      || 2.6.38.10.20         ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:05] <herton> || ---      linux-ec2                         || 2.6.32-316.31        || 2.6.32-317.34        ||    3 ||        3 ||
[17:05] <herton> || ---      linux-lts-backport-natty          ||                      || 2.6.38-10.44~lucid1  ||    1 ||        1 ||
[17:05] <herton> || ---      linux-ports-meta                  || 2.6.32.32.24         || 2.6.32.33.25         ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:05] <herton> || ---      linux-meta-lts-backport-maverick  || 2.6.35.25.36         || 2.6.35.30.38         ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:05] <herton> || ---      linux-lts-backport-maverick       || 2.6.35-25.44~lucid1  || 2.6.35-30.54~lucid1  ||   21 ||       21 ||
[17:05] <herton> || ---      linux-meta                        || 2.6.32.32.38         || 2.6.32.33.39         ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:05] <herton> || ---      linux-firmware                    || 1.34.7               || 1.34.10              ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:05] <herton> || ---      linux                             || 2.6.32-32.62         || 2.6.32-33.69         ||    3 ||        3 ||
[17:05] <herton> || ---      linux-backports-modules-2.6.32    || 2.6.32-32.32         || 2.6.32-33.33         ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:05] <herton> || ---      linux-meta-ec2                    || 2.6.32.316.17        || 2.6.32.317.18        ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:05] <herton> || maverick linux-mvl-dove                    || 2.6.32-416.33        || 2.6.32-417.34        ||    6 ||        6 ||
[17:05] <herton> || ---      linux-meta-mvl-dove               || 2.6.32.416.6         || 2.6.32.417.7         ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:05] <herton> || ---      linux-firmware
[17:05] <herton> ..
[17:06] <apw> herton, that looks to be truncated ...
[17:06] <herton> || 1.38.6               || 1.38.8               ||    1 ||        0 ||
[17:06] <herton> || ---      linux                             || 2.6.35-30.54         || 2.6.35-30.55         ||    2 ||        0 ||
[17:06] <herton> || natty    linux-meta-ti-omap4               ||                      || 2.6.38.1209.7        ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:06] <herton> || ---      linux-backports-modules-2.6.38    ||                      || 2.6.38-10.6          ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:06] <herton> || ---      linux-firmware                    ||                      || 1.52.1               ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:06] <herton> || ---      linux                             ||                      || 2.6.38-10.46         ||   15 ||       15 ||
[17:06] <herton> || ---      linux-ti-omap4                    ||                      || 2.6.38-1209.13       ||   10 ||       10 ||
[17:06] <herton> || ---      linux-meta                        ||                      || 2.6.38.10.25         ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:06] <herton> ||
[17:06] <herton> ..
[17:06] <herton> sorry, indeed it missed the last part
[17:06] <apw> [TOPIC] Open discussion
[17:06] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open discussion
[17:06] <apw> o/
[17:07] <apw> If you have any work items for oneiric-alpha-2 please review them and push them out if they are not going to make it.
[17:07] <apw> ..
[17:07] <apw> ok thanks everyone
[17:07] <apw> #endmeeting
[17:07] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 12:07.
[17:07] <cking> nice one
[17:07] <kamal> thanks apw
[18:46] <mmgc84> hello :)
[18:57] <di3gopa> mmgc84, hello =D
[19:02] <emont01> hello di3gopa and mmgc84
[19:02] <di3gopa> =D
[19:05] <emont01> big day di3gopa,I hope that everything goes well
[19:05] <di3gopa> emont01, thanks!!
[19:06] <emont01> I am next, hope so!
[19:06] <emont01> :D
[19:07] <di3gopa> emont01, yeah!
[19:13] <Menopia> Hi all
[19:16] <emont01> Hi Menopia
[19:17] <Menopia> emont01, When the meeting will start :)
[19:17] <cyphermox> still 45 minutes to go afaik
[19:17] <Menopia> ok
[19:55] <mmgc84> hello di3gopa y emont01
[19:56] <di3gopa> mmgc84, :)
[19:56] <mmgc84> estaba dormido :)
[19:56] <di3gopa> xD
[19:57] <mmgc84> se habla español en esta sala??
[19:58] <alucardni> mmgc84: por el momento, cuando empiece la reunión solo "inglish"
[19:58] <elopio> mmgc84: yo hablo español :)
[19:59] <highvoltage> good evening
[19:59] <emont01> eso pensé, gracias por aclararlo alucardni :D
[19:59] <MichealH> Hey highvoltage
[19:59] <alucardni> emont01: ;-)
[19:59] <Processingqbits> Assalamu Alaikum?
[19:59] <thelinuxer> Processingqbits: wsA :)
[20:00] <di3gopa> wut
[20:00] <thelinuxer> di3gopa: it means peace be upon you :)
[20:00] <mmgc84> que se hizo elopio ?????
[20:00] <di3gopa> thelinuxer, oooh nice!
[20:00] <Processingqbits> :D
[20:00] <elopio> mmgc84, _o/
[20:01] <mmgc84> que nota elopio x)
[20:01] <thelinuxer> When should the meeting start ?
[20:01] <highvoltage> stgraber, cyphermox, nhandler, ogra_: it's time!
[20:01] <cyphermox> o/
[20:01] <highvoltage> Welcome to this month's EMEA Regional Board Meeting.
[20:01] <highvoltage> Candidates will be able to present themselves one by one in order of the agenda on the wiki page.
[20:02] <highvoltage> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA
[20:02] <highvoltage> Only board members can vote.
[20:02] <cyphermox> I should be here for a fifteen minutes now, then probably on my phone or so.
[20:02] <highvoltage> If you'd like to show your support for an applicant, please wait until it is their turn.
[20:02] <highvoltage> Candidates should prepare an introduction of 1-5 sentences and also have a prepared wiki page for their application.
[20:02] <highvoltage> ok thanks cyphermox
[20:02] <highvoltage> do we have quorum?
[20:02] <Menopia> Hi all again...
[20:02] <popey> hello highvoltage
[20:03]  * nhandler is here
[20:03] <highvoltage> oops, sorry popey I accidentally left you out
[20:03] <popey> :D
[20:03] <stgraber> I'm around though quite busy, so if we can get quorum without me that'd be great, otherwise I'll try to be around to vote
[20:04] <ogra_> same here ... A2 on the horizon is not a good time
[20:04] <highvoltage> popey: can you drive LP?
[20:05] <popey> heh
[20:05] <popey> as in add members?
[20:05] <highvoltage> we have quorum for now so let's start
[20:05] <highvoltage> popey: yep
[20:05] <popey> sure
[20:05] <highvoltage> #startmeeting
[20:05] <MootBot> Meeting started at 15:05. The chair is highvoltage.
[20:05] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[20:05] <highvoltage> [TOPIC] Menopia
[20:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Menopia
[20:06] <highvoltage> Menopia: you're up, please tell us about yourself
[20:06] <Menopia> Ok
[20:06] <Menopia> My name is Islam Wazery .. I am a Game Developer now and a Student of Computer Scinece faculty.
[20:06] <Menopia> and I am trying as much as I can to be an active member in the Egyptian LoCo team which I joind in 2010 (its actual revival date :D).
[20:06] <Menopia> I am participating with them in every event we do .. like install fests, release parties Ubuntu Hours & code jams and all of the team meetings.
[20:07] <Menopia> I try to design all the neccessary desings for the team events .. the artwork page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyptTeam/Artwork.
[20:07] <iulian> Oups, forgot again.  Sorry I'm late guys.
[20:07] <Menopia> Also I am trying to convince as much peapole as I could with the Open Source and Free software philosophy, including my colleagues and successfully presuaded my Head of the Department to use free software in our college and to include them in our curriculum and it was not easy at all so we made an event (install fest) in our college which he attended and offerd a lab to be ours :) in order to install Ubuntu and free software on it and use it freel
[20:07] <Menopia> y to give sessions.
[20:08] <nhandler> Menopia: I see you are part of the Desktop Bugs team. Do you do any triage work?
[20:08] <Menopia> are you cheking my wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wazery?
[20:08] <highvoltage> iulian: you're just in time
[20:08] <Menopia> I am trying to participate in launchpad ... but to be honest not as the real life participation with my LoCo
[20:09] <nhandler> Menopia: Have you thought about helping out with the Ubuntu Artwork team ?
[20:10] <Menopia> Actually I did and I have some designs that I published
[20:10] <popey> What was the content of the course you designed? Is the content publicly available?
[20:10] <Menopia> yes I will try yo make it available for you
[20:10] <Menopia> just a minute
[20:11] <popey> did Cairo University use the content?
[20:11] <highvoltage> Menopia: from your wiki page I see you've done very broad work. is there something you have done as part of the Ubuntu project you're particularly proud of?
[20:11] <highvoltage> (broad as in, broader than ubuntu specifically)
[20:11]  * njin testing
[20:12] <Menopia> I am trying to do some bug reporting and participating with the artwork team
[20:12] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~al-wazery not a huge amount of bug work.
[20:13] <Menopia> yes as I said my main work is Locally with my LoCo team
[20:13]  * highvoltage has no other questions
[20:14] <Menopia> the course link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyptTeam/Events/2010-07-03-SummerTraining?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Cairo.odp
[20:14] <popey> thanks Menopia
[20:14] <highvoltage> ready to vote?
[20:14] <nhandler> Yep
[20:15] <highvoltage> [VOTE] menopia
[20:15] <MootBot> Please vote on:  menopia.
[20:15] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
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[20:15] <iulian> +0
[20:15] <MootBot> Abstention received from iulian. 0 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 0
[20:15] <ogra_> +1
[20:15] <MootBot> +1 received from ogra_. 1 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 1
[20:15] <highvoltage> +0 [ good effort and great feedback from peers, but would like to see more work done within the ubuntu project itself ]
[20:15] <MootBot> Abstention received from highvoltage. 1 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 1
[20:15] <popey> +1
[20:15] <MootBot> +1 received from popey. 2 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 2
[20:15] <stgraber> +0
[20:15] <MootBot> Abstention received from stgraber. 2 for, 0 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 2
[20:15] <nhandler> +1
[20:15] <MootBot> +1 received from nhandler. 3 for, 0 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 3
[20:16] <mgamal> +1
[20:16] <MootBot> +1 received from mgamal. 4 for, 0 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 4
[20:16] <popey> grrr
[20:16] <highvoltage> [ENDVOTE]
[20:16] <MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 3 abstained. Total: 4
[20:16] <highvoltage> mgamal: only EMEA RMB members may vote
[20:16] <highvoltage> count: +3
[20:16] <mgamal> sorry :)
[20:16] <cyphermox> gah, I fail. sorry, mine would be +1 ;)
[20:17] <highvoltage> cyphermox: ah sorry
[20:17] <highvoltage> count is +4 then
[20:17] <kim0> +1
[20:17] <highvoltage> [AGREED] +4 for Menopia, welcome and congratulations
[20:17] <MootBot> AGREED received:  +4 for Menopia, welcome and congratulations
[20:17] <nhandler> Congratulations Menopia
[20:17] <thelinuxer> Menopia: congratulations Menopia :)
[20:17] <amahdy> Congrattts =)
[20:17] <EgyParadox> Congratulations
[20:17] <popey> added to ~ubuntumembers
[20:17] <elopio> I wuold love to have this shirt. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyptTeam/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=t-shirt2-small.png
[20:18] <mgamal> congrats menopia :)
[20:18] <cyphermox> keep up the work :)
[20:18] <kim0> Menopia: woohoo \o/
[20:18] <Menopia> Thanks all :D
[20:18] <TheNightPhoenix> yahoo congrats menopia
[20:18] <Processingqbits> congrats Menopia
[20:18] <atourino> congratulations Menopia
[20:18] <elopio> congrats Menopia
[20:18] <UrikPA> congratulations :D
[20:18] <iulian> Yikes.
[20:18] <ashams> Menopia: congratulations Menopia :)
[20:18] <mmgc84> :) congrats Menopia
[20:18] <popey> haha, yeah, nice shirt
[20:18] <cyphermox> elopio: indeed, that's a nice shirt
[20:18] <highvoltage> is laoshi present?
[20:18] <Menopia> I will try my best with the Ubuntu project itself :D
[20:18] <highvoltage> [TOPIC] njin
[20:18] <MootBot> New Topic:  njin
[20:18] <popey> you missed one highvoltage ?
[20:19] <popey> oh, i see
[20:19] <highvoltage> njin: please introduce yourself
[20:19] <njin> Hello sorry i'm burning a cd
[20:19] <njin> well i'm an active testing member, bug triager etc
[20:19] <highvoltage> aparently :)
[20:19] <ogra_> heh
[20:20] <njin> :(
[20:20] <njin> why?
[20:20] <nhandler> njin: Any plans to go for Bug Control?
[20:20] <ogra_> and you have a nice testimonial from pedro too :)
[20:20] <popey> I have no questions.
[20:20]  * ogra_ neither
[20:20]  * iulian neither.
[20:20] <popey> nice amount of karma you have there
[20:21] <njin> yes, is on my plan, but i'm evaluating because pidgin isn't an easy package
[20:21] <highvoltage> njin: since you're burning cd's even during the meeting :)
[20:21] <njin> iis full of plugin and i've to think well before
[20:21]  * nhandler is ready
[20:21] <highvoltage> [VOTE] njin (note: RMB members may only vote)
[20:21] <MootBot> Please vote on:  njin (note: RMB members may only vote).
[20:21] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[20:21] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[20:21] <njin> i'm testing and t
[20:21] <ogra_> +1
[20:21] <MootBot> +1 received from ogra_. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[20:21] <cyphermox> +1
[20:21] <highvoltage> +1 [ great QA work ]
[20:21] <MootBot> +1 received from highvoltage. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[20:21] <MootBot> +1 received from cyphermox. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[20:21] <popey> +1
[20:21] <MootBot> +1 received from popey. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[20:22] <popey> fantastic iso work, and lots of lovely karma
[20:22] <nhandler> +1
[20:22] <MootBot> +1 received from nhandler. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
[20:22] <iulian> +1
[20:22] <MootBot> +1 received from iulian. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6
[20:22] <stgraber> +1
[20:22] <MootBot> +1 received from stgraber. 7 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 7
[20:22] <popey> \o/
[20:22] <njin> oops,
[20:22] <njin> i love you guy
[20:22] <highvoltage> [ENDVOTE]
[20:22] <MootBot> Final result is 7 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 7
[20:22] <popey> Congratulations!
[20:22] <njin> thanks
[20:22] <njin> thanks
[20:22] <popey> Awesome work, keep it up!
[20:22] <njin> sure
[20:22] <aeperezt> njin, congrats
[20:23] <highvoltage> [AGREED] +7 for njin, congratulations and welcome!
[20:23] <MootBot> AGREED received:  +7 for njin, congratulations and welcome!
[20:23] <di3gopa> njin, congrats
[20:23] <UrikPA> congratz njin
[20:23] <njin> i'm ubuntu now
[20:23] <popey> added to ~ubuntumembers
[20:23] <elopio> Congratulations njin.
[20:23] <AlexoGeek> njin, congrats man
[20:23] <mmgc84> congrats! njin
[20:23] <highvoltage> [TOPIC[ mmgc84
[20:23] <nhandler> Congrats njin
[20:23] <mmgc84> me??
[20:23] <highvoltage> mmgc84: hi, could you please introduce yourself?
[20:23]  * leogg is here cheering for mmgc84 
[20:23] <mmgc84> Hi there
[20:23] <mmgc84> :) my name is Marcelo Gutierrez
[20:23]  * elopio is part of mmgc84's fan club.
[20:24] <mmgc84> current Nicaragua's LocoTeam
[20:24]  * di3gopa it is to =D
[20:24] <di3gopa> too*
[20:24]  * madgab too :)
[20:24]  * alucardni is here to cheer for mmgc84 
[20:24] <mmgc84> and I've been spreading ubuntu even in my dreams
[20:24] <highvoltage> great, any questions for mmgc84?
[20:25] <popey> yes
[20:25] <popey> mmgc84: what is the biggest challenge as the loco team leader?
[20:25] <mmgc84> well
[20:26] <mmgc84> Try to get more people involved
[20:26] <popey> motivating them?
[20:26] <mmgc84> but we are doing a lot
[20:26] <mmgc84> we have new projects comming
[20:26] <nhandler> mmgc84: Of your many contributions, what are you the most proud of?
[20:27] <mmgc84> you give me the chance to explain about Floss and Ubuntu to someone and that's it
[20:27] <mmgc84> I do it because I love it
[20:27] <popey> :D
[20:28] <mmgc84> did I answer your question?
[20:28] <popey> yes
[20:29] <mmgc84> :)
[20:29] <highvoltage> anything else before we proceed to vote?
[20:29] <mmgc84> well
[20:29] <atourino> mmgc84: nhandler had a question
[20:29] <mmgc84> ok please go ahead
[20:29] <nhandler> 1309897608 15:26:48 < nhandler> mmgc84: Of your many contributions, what are you the most proud of?
[20:29] <mmgc84> my lectures
[20:30] <mmgc84> that's the answer
[20:30] <nhandler> Definitely a veryimporant form of contributing
[20:30] <mmgc84> thanks
[20:31] <highvoltage> [VOTE] mmgc84 for Ubuntu membership
[20:31] <MootBot> Please vote on:  mmgc84 for Ubuntu membership.
[20:31] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
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[20:31] <popey> +1
[20:31] <MootBot> +1 received from popey. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[20:31] <nhandler> +1
[20:31] <MootBot> +1 received from nhandler. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[20:31] <ogra_> +1
[20:31] <MootBot> +1 received from ogra_. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[20:31] <iulian> +1
[20:31] <MootBot> +1 received from iulian. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[20:31] <highvoltage> +1 [ very active loco work where it's much needed ]
[20:31] <MootBot> +1 received from highvoltage. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
[20:31] <stgraber> +1
[20:31] <MootBot> +1 received from stgraber. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6
[20:31] <popey> Awesome loco work, keep it up!
[20:31] <leogg> mmgc84, felicidades mercucio!
[20:31] <highvoltage> cyphermox: still with us?
[20:31]  * nomada is mmgc84's fan too...
[20:31] <mmgc84> :)
[20:32] <LoKoMurdoK> congratulation!! mmgc84
[20:32] <mmgc84> :) we will make the Loco better
[20:32] <mmgc84> :)
[20:32] <highvoltage> not that it makes a difference :)
[20:32] <alucardni> mmgc84: felicidades prix!!!
[20:32] <highvoltage> [ENDVOTE]
[20:32] <MootBot> Final result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 6
[20:32] <elopio> mmgc84: felicidades compa.
[20:32] <popey> added to ~ubuntumembers
[20:32] <mmgc84> gracias a todos por estar aquí
[20:32] <jdflorezPA> mmgc84: felicidades :)
[20:32] <highvoltage> [AGREED] +6 for mmgc84. congratulations and welcome
[20:32] <MootBot> AGREED received:  +6 for mmgc84. congratulations and welcome
[20:32] <DexterNica> mmgc84: Felicidades compa!!!
[20:32] <MichealH> Well done mmgc84
[20:32] <emont01> congratulations!
[20:33] <UrikPA> congratz mmgc84
[20:33] <highvoltage> nice bunch of cheerleaders you have too :)
[20:33] <LoKoMurdoK> :O
[20:33] <mmgc84> thank you :) I will make them proud
[20:33] <LoKoMurdoK> :)
[20:33] <highvoltage> [TOPIC] elopio
[20:33] <MootBot> New Topic:  elopio
[20:33] <highvoltage> elopio: Hi, please introduce yourself
[20:33] <elopio> hello.
[20:33] <elopio> My name is Leo Arias. I'm from Costa Rica.
[20:34] <leogg> I'm here cheering for the great elopio as well! :)
[20:34]  * di3gopa cheering elopio!
[20:34] <elopio> I work in quality assurance.
[20:34] <mmgc84> I'm here cheering elopio
[20:34] <elopio> and I've been trying to help ubuntu for some years now.
[20:34] <popey> ooo openbravo, cool project
[20:34]  * amonthoth congrats elopio
[20:34] <elopio> I love the philosophy of sharing, and this amazing tool makes it a lot easier.
[20:34] <emont01> cheers elopio
[20:34]  * jdflorezPA cheering for elopio too :)
[20:34] <madgab> cheers elopio :D
[20:34] <popey> great to see so many people here cheering !
[20:34] <ogra_> ++
[20:35] <iulian> Indeed.
[20:35] <nomada> +1
[20:35] <highvoltage> elopio: why motu at end of 2012 and not end of 2011. you can do it!
[20:35] <elopio> popey: Central American brothers and sisters :)
[20:35] <popey> haha
[20:35] <elopio> there is a lovely community here. You should visit us
[20:35] <popey> Yes! I should!
[20:35] <elopio> highvoltage: I have other goals that I think are more important.
[20:36] <elopio> but I'll give it a try
[20:36] <elopio> :)
[20:36] <leogg> elopio has done an amazing job with the Central American website ---> http://ubuntu-centroamerica.org/
[20:36] <popey> How will you increase participation in the loco elopio ?
[20:36] <MichealH> elopio: Nice to know people test the quality and stbility of Ubuntu :D
[20:37] <elopio> popey: there are a lot of people using ubuntu in costa rica. But they are not part of the loco, they are from other communities
[20:37] <popey> elopio: how will you reach out to them?
[20:37] <elopio> so we will try to invite them and promote participation during activities.
[20:37] <elopio> install fests, parties, sprints.
[20:37] <popey> excellent
[20:37] <LoKoMurdoK> cheering elopio blessing
[20:38] <elopio> popey: I'll write to the communities they are part of.
[20:38] <elopio> that's the easy part. The hard part is to get them to launchpad.
[20:38] <highvoltage> anything further before we vote?
[20:38] <iulian> Heh.
[20:38] <iulian> elopio: Good luck with that!
[20:38] <iulian> highvoltage: Ready to vote here.
[20:38] <popey> elopio: what's the bigger issue in costa rica, access to broadband, or the cost of software?
[20:39] <popey> (or something else)?
[20:39] <elopio> popey: neither. I think that is education.
[20:39] <leogg> iulian, actually that's not so hard ;) ---> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-centroamerica
[20:39] <popey> woah, nice size team
[20:40] <iulian> Hm, I see, thanks leogg.
[20:40] <popey> i have no other questions
[20:40] <highvoltage> [VOTE] elopio for Ubuntu membership
[20:40] <MootBot> Please vote on:  elopio for Ubuntu membership.
[20:40] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[20:40] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[20:40] <popey> +1
[20:40] <MootBot> +1 received from popey. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[20:40] <iulian> +1
[20:40] <MootBot> +1 received from iulian. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[20:40] <nhandler> +1
[20:40] <MootBot> +1 received from nhandler. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[20:40] <popey> great motivational work, keep going!
[20:40] <highvoltage> +1 [ great loco work ]
[20:40] <MootBot> +1 received from highvoltage. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[20:40] <iulian> Yup.
[20:41] <highvoltage> stgraber, ogra_
[20:41]  * popey tickles cyphermox too
[20:41] <ogra_> +1
[20:41] <MootBot> +1 received from ogra_. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
[20:41] <stgraber> +1
[20:41] <MootBot> +1 received from stgraber. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6
[20:41] <highvoltage> cyphermox said that he'd have to go after a while, I'm assuming he's done so
[20:42] <highvoltage> [ENDVOTE]
[20:42] <MootBot> Final result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 6
[20:42] <elopio> woohoo \o/
[20:42] <leogg> elopio, cervezaaaaaa!! :)
[20:42] <elopio> thanks board members and cheerleaders.
[20:42] <popey> yay!
[20:42] <jdflorezPA> elopio: felicidades! Pura vida mae :)
[20:42] <highvoltage> [AGREED] +6 for elopio, congratulations and welcome!
[20:42] <MootBot> AGREED received:  +6 for elopio, congratulations and welcome!
[20:42] <di3gopa> elopio, congratis!!!
[20:42] <LoKoMurdoK> pura vida blessing
[20:42] <alucardni> Felicidades elopio !!!!
[20:42] <elopio> leogg: aquí hay una para vos :)
[20:42] <dMaggot> elopio: congrats!
[20:42] <mmgc84> congrats elopio x)
[20:42] <leogg> elopio, ;)
[20:42]  * aeperezt bien eliopo
[20:42] <UrikPA> congratz elopio  :D
[20:42] <popey> (added to ~ubuntumembers)
[20:43] <LoKoMurdoK> xD
[20:43] <highvoltage> [TOPIC] di3gopa
[20:43] <MootBot> New Topic:  di3gopa
[20:43] <elopio> beers for everybody at my house!
[20:43] <LoKoMurdoK> cheering di3gopa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! blessing
[20:43] <highvoltage> di3gopa: Hi, please introduce yourself
[20:43]  * leogg is the president of the di3gopa official fan club! Go Panamá!
[20:43] <mmgc84> I'm here for di3gopa!
[20:43] <di3gopa> hello highvoltage :) ok
[20:43]  * aeperezt cheering di3gopa
[20:43] <di3gopa> Hello everyone I am Diego Tejera, i have a software development company based on free/libre software
[20:43]  * elopio go di3gopa go.
[20:43] <emont01> cheers di3gopa!
[20:43]  * jdflorezPA cheering for di3gopa
[20:43]  * AlexoGeek is for cheering di3gopa 
[20:43] <di3gopa> I have been involed with our local team since 2008 and in charge of the teaml since 2010. I have been actively helping to spread ubuntu in my country, i would really like to be an Ubuntu member to have some representation on our contry and help to make our community bigger.
[20:43] <madgab> cheers from El Salvador di3gopa :D !!
[20:43] <UrikPA>  /me cheering di3gopa go di3gopa go :D!
[20:44]  * di3gopa thanks everyone for cheering :)
[20:44]  * kacm cheers for die3gopa! 
[20:44]  * amonthoth heil di3gopa
[20:44] <popey> :D
[20:45] <highvoltage> di3gopa: your wiki page lists the work you do outside of the ubuntu community
[20:45]  * UrikPA go di3gopa
[20:45] <popey> I can never quite get my head around how many people from around the world come together to cheer for someone :D
[20:45] <highvoltage> di3gopa: but it's sparse on what you do *inside* of the ubuntu community
[20:45] <highvoltage> di3gopa: could you perhaps tell us a bit more about your work as part of the ubuntu community?
[20:45] <di3gopa> highvoltage, sure
[20:45] <popey> http://diegotejera.org/?p=26 is a nice example highvoltage
[20:45] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://diegotejera.org/?p=26 is a nice example highvoltage
[20:46] <di3gopa> highvoltage, i have been actively working to spread ubuntu in my country
[20:46] <di3gopa> and and charge of allmost of the artwork we do here
[20:46] <di3gopa> an example -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/39581720@N03/sets/72157623870565283/
[20:46] <di3gopa> http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll12/dihego/ubuntu-pa.jpg
[20:46] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll12/dihego/ubuntu-pa.jpg
[20:46] <emont01> I have to say di3gopa has organized many events here in Panamá.
[20:47] <di3gopa> we have got lots of new users because of these activities
[20:47] <highvoltage> di3gopa: in your blog you say that people are very excited about ubuntu at the events but that they forget very quickly afterwards. do you have any advice for people who are running their own ubuntu events on how to maintain enthusiasm?
[20:48] <elopio> excuse Me. Please let me add this one: http://diegotejera.org/?p=5 di3gopa was in the beginning. That meeting is the reason we are all here :)
[20:48] <MichealH> I will BRB people
[20:48] <di3gopa> highvoltage, i think that they should get attendants emails and try to involve them in the activities
[20:49] <di3gopa> to let them help so they can fill part of the community
[20:49] <di3gopa> aeperezt, teached me that :)
[20:49] <di3gopa> feel*
[20:49] <leogg> I agree with elopio... di3gopa has been *very* active in the Central American Ubuntu community
[20:49] <highvoltage> yep, that's indeed very important
[20:49] <MichealH> (back)
[20:49] <LoKoMurdoK> Diego is a excellent person, promoter of free software in Panama and Central America. If you need help he will be there to support you. Is planner events for the community of free software. It is gratifying that we have people like him in the community.
[20:49] <di3gopa> Thanks LoKoMurdoK :)
[20:50] <dMaggot> just wanted to add briefly, b4 the votes
[20:50] <highvoltage> any further questions or comments before we vote?
[20:50] <dMaggot> a testimonial that is hard to put in words in a Wikki
[20:51] <dMaggot> besides di3gopa's being there since the begining
[20:51] <dMaggot> (and I think everyone here from flosspa, kacm ayaita UrikPA has received Ubuntu support from him)
[20:51] <dMaggot> he has been there for the floss commmunity in the ups and downs
[20:51] <dMaggot> and in the same spirit of Ubuntu
[20:51] <dMaggot> he has kept us united after all
[20:51] <mmgc84> :)
[20:51] <jdflorezPA> di3gopa helped me install my ubuntu for the first time
[20:52] <di3gopa> thanks dMaggot :)
[20:52] <dMaggot> so if the council is to appoint anyone here in Panama, that should be him
[20:52] <popey> jdflorezPA: and you're still using it? :D
[20:52] <highvoltage> you'te going to make di3gopa cry here :)
[20:52] <highvoltage> [VOTE] di3gopa for Ubuntu membership
[20:52] <MootBot> Please vote on:  di3gopa for Ubuntu membership.
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[20:52] <aeperezt> lol
[20:52] <di3gopa> highvoltage, hahaha yes
[20:52] <UrikPA> I have to say that di3gopa introduced me to ubuntu too
[20:52] <atourino> di3gopa: is working on a cure for cancer
[20:52] <atourino> i swear
[20:52] <atourino> :D
[20:52] <popey> +1
[20:52] <MootBot> +1 received from popey. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[20:52] <nhandler> +1
[20:52] <MootBot> +1 received from nhandler. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[20:52] <ogra_> +1
[20:52] <MootBot> +1 received from ogra_. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[20:52] <highvoltage> +1 [ great loco work and great feedback from other loco team members ]
[20:52] <MootBot> +1 received from highvoltage. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[20:52] <iulian> +1
[20:52] <PzPpma> greetings
[20:52] <MootBot> +1 received from iulian. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
[20:52] <stgraber> +1
[20:52] <MootBot> +1 received from stgraber. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6
[20:53] <highvoltage> [ENDVOTE]
[20:53] <MootBot> Final result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 6
[20:53] <leogg> di3gopa, felicidades!!
[20:53] <LoKoMurdoK> congratulation di3gopa
[20:53] <jdflorezPA> popeye: yes
[20:53] <mmgc84> whoop whoop
[20:53] <mmgc84> :)
[20:53] <LoKoMurdoK> blessing
[20:53] <highvoltage> [AGREED] +6 for di3gopa, Congratulations and Welcome
[20:53] <MootBot> AGREED received:  +6 for di3gopa, Congratulations and Welcome
[20:53] <popey> as I said before, we greatly value people from the loco turning up to cheer their friends like this
[20:53] <atourino> congrats :)
[20:53] <dMaggot> di3gopa: there you go dude!
[20:53] <PzPpma> +1  4  di3gopa
[20:53] <UrikPA> congratz di3gopa
[20:53] <dMaggot> hahaha
[20:53] <di3gopa> thanks everyone!! really thanks :D
[20:53] <PzPpma> woohoo!
[20:53]  * dMaggot hails di3gopa once again xD
[20:53] <BlackFile> di3gopa felicidades
[20:53]  * jdflorezPA hails di3gopa
[20:53] <di3gopa> thanks!!!
[20:53] <iulian> Congratulations di3gopa.
[20:53] <PzPpma> congratz di3gopa!
[20:53] <emont01> congrats di3gopa!
[20:53] <elopio> felicidades. Ahora sí, el siguiente paso es que ubuntu esté bajo dominio centroamericano.
[20:53]  * amonthoth congratulations for diegopa
[20:53] <mmgc84> jajajaja x)
[20:53]  * kacm congrats di3gopa! :D 
[20:53] <highvoltage> central america is in the house tonight!
[20:53] <atourino> w00t w00t!
[20:54]  * iulian nods.
[20:54] <di3gopa> highvoltage, haha yes
[20:54] <popey> di3gopa: is member 701 of ~ubuntumembers, elopio was member 700 :D
[20:54] <di3gopa> really thanks everyone :D
[20:54] <highvoltage> [TOPIC] GunnarHj
[20:54] <MootBot> New Topic:  GunnarHj
[20:54] <emont01> yeah highvoltage!
[20:54] <alucardni> popey: we are centralamerican brothers and sisters ;)
[20:54] <atourino> you're all invited to come and visit!
[20:54] <atourino> :D
[20:54] <GunnarHj> Hi all, I'm Gunnar Hjalmarsson, a Swedish fellow living in Gothenburg.
[20:54] <GunnarHj> Relatively new in the community - started to use Ubuntu a year ago.
[20:54]  * UrikPA congratz di3gopa
[20:54] <GunnarHj> I like the sharing concept, and I have been involved in patching and bugfixing the desktop.
[20:54] <PzPpma> hi to dMaggot & UrikPa
[20:54]  * amonthoth sawa bona, di3gopa
[20:54] <di3gopa> :)
[20:55] <PzPpma> welcome GunnarHj
[20:55] <GunnarHj> Thanks!
[20:55] <GunnarHj> (Sorry for being late to the meeting, btw.)
[20:55] <popey> you're not late
[20:56]  * highvoltage notices some language related uploads on https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+related-software as well
[20:56] <GunnarHj> Ok. :)
[20:57] <highvoltage> GunnarHj: how did you get involved with translations? is there anyone you're working with? have you ever arranged any translation related events locally?
[20:58] <GunnarHj> As regards translations, the Swedish team don't want any new members for the time being.
[20:58] <highvoltage> how so?
[20:58] <GunnarHj> Suppose they are enough # to handle it.
[20:59] <GunnarHj> I think the Swedish translation team is one of the most active in the community.
[20:59] <GunnarHj> So I have instead worked centrally so far.
[21:00] <highvoltage> any further questions or comments for GunnarHj?
[21:00] <iulian> Nothing from me.
[21:01] <nhandler> +0/me is good
[21:02] <highvoltage> [VOTE] GunnarHj for Ubuntu membership
[21:02] <MootBot> Please vote on:  GunnarHj for Ubuntu membership.
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[21:02] <nhandler> +0
[21:02] <MootBot> Abstention received from nhandler. 0 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 0
[21:02] <popey> +0
[21:02] <MootBot> Abstention received from popey. 0 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 0
[21:02] <popey> i'd like to see some more sustained contributions
[21:02] <highvoltage> +0 [ good translations work, but would like to see more co-operation and integration with the ubuntu community ]
[21:02] <MootBot> Abstention received from highvoltage. 0 for, 0 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 0
[21:02] <popey> maybe some testimonials?
[21:02] <sabdfl> hi all, CC when you're done
[21:03] <ogra_> +0 [i'm with popey (especially on teh testimonial bit]]
[21:03] <MootBot> Abstention received from ogra_. 0 for, 0 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now 0
[21:03] <iulian> +0
[21:03] <MootBot> Abstention received from iulian. 0 for, 0 against. 5 have abstained. Count is now 0
[21:03] <stgraber> +0 [some testimonials would have made that a +1]
[21:03] <MootBot> Abstention received from stgraber. 0 for, 0 against. 6 have abstained. Count is now 0
[21:03] <highvoltage> [ENDVOTE]
[21:03] <MootBot> Final result is 0 for, 0 against. 6 abstained. Total: 0
[21:03] <GunnarHj> Ok, how should I interprete this?
[21:03] <highvoltage> [AGREED] +0 for GunnarHj.
[21:03] <MootBot> AGREED received:  +0 for GunnarHj.
[21:04] <highvoltage> GunnarHj: you didn't get membership this time. But we value your contributions and hope you apply again at some point in the future
[21:04] <GunnarHj> I see. Would some testimonials help?
[21:04] <highvoltage> GunnarHj: there are some comments and suggestions above, taking that in consideration will help you in a future application
[21:04] <highvoltage> GunnarHj: testimonials will help a great deal.
[21:04] <iulian> GunnarHj: Definitely.
[21:05] <highvoltage> sabdfl: sorry we're almost done
[21:05] <GunnarHj> Will do. Thanks for your time. Will apply later on. BFN
[21:05] <highvoltage> [TOPIC] MichealH
[21:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  MichealH
[21:05] <sabdfl> no worries
[21:05] <MichealH> Hey
[21:05] <MichealH> :D
[21:05] <highvoltage> MichealH: I think there are some RMB board members who haven't met you yet, could you introduce yourself?
[21:06] <MichealH> Hi I am Micheal Harker, You sould know me by now... (joke). I am a 14 year old Ubuntu Contributor, I beleive that my age does not restrict my activities on Ubuntu, and here I am today, I develop websites and software ,do IRC Stuff, I admin teams and I am the first one to call when people make teams. I would like you to view my (beautiful) wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MichealH
[21:06] <highvoltage> MichealH: also, do you remember how many times you've applied for membership before?
[21:06] <MichealH> 7... or so :P
[21:06] <MichealH> Its not the amount of tries that count :P
[21:06] <highvoltage> what have you changed or done since you last applied for membership?
[21:07] <MichealH> Quite a bit of stuff
[21:07] <MichealH> I have helped administrate many teams lot more
[21:07] <MichealH> I now try and get People intrested in Ubuntu AT :)
[21:08] <MichealH> Daniel0108 can tell you how great of a Admin I am :)
[21:08] <Daniel0108> Yeah, I have to admit that MichealH is the best admin I've ever seen and a funny and enjoyable guy. He helped us to set up the Ubuntu Austria LoCo team, even if he is not from Austria. Thank you :D
[21:09] <MichealH> I have spoken to my UBT Apprentice and I am going to soom put him towards UBT Membership
[21:10] <highvoltage> No one has any questions or comments for MichealH?
[21:10] <highvoltage> MichealH: in the meantime, can you expand on what admin work you've done?
[21:11] <MichealH> Sure
[21:11] <MichealH> I need to brb though
[21:11] <MichealH> Gimme a mo
[21:11] <highvoltage> we can't wait long, since we're running into another meeting already
[21:11] <MichealH> Yeah
[21:11] <MichealH> Okay
[21:11] <MichealH> I help with projects outside of Ubuntu
[21:12] <MichealH> They benifit Ubuntu in some way, shape or form
[21:12] <MichealH> They benifit FOSS
[21:12] <MichealH> I have been elected as a IRC Operator on FOSSNet.... Which avocates Ubuntu highly
[21:12] <MichealH> They do challenges that you can only do on Ubuntu
[21:12] <MichealH> :)
[21:13] <highvoltage> popey, nhandler, stgraber, cyphermox, ogra_, iulian: ready to vote?
[21:13]  * iulian is ready to vote.
[21:13] <MichealH> I also help on TouchLay
[21:13] <MichealH> Daniel0108 can tell you that if you like
[21:13] <popey> hmm
[21:13] <popey> Ubuntu membership is more about (as I'm sure you're aware) a sustained and significan contribution to _ubuntu_ itself
[21:13] <Daniel0108> yeah, we at TouchLay use Ubuntu for everything :) We're also trying to get an Ubuntu partnership established, but that's another thing ;)
[21:14] <Daniel0108> popey: he also contributes actively into the Ubuntu Austria LoCo :)
[21:14] <stgraber> highvoltage: sure
[21:15] <popey> Daniel0108: in what way?
[21:15] <Daniel0108> popey: he does all the admin stuff
[21:15] <popey> "admin stuff"?
[21:15] <MichealH-iPod> Oh man, I lost connection
[21:15] <Daniel0108> MichealH-iPod: explain them what you do at Ubuntu Austria :)
[21:15] <MichealH-iPod> I am their software leader
[21:16] <popey> what does that even mean?
[21:16] <Daniel0108> MichealH-iPod: ubuntu austria, not TouchLay ;)
[21:16] <MichealH-iPod> I develop apps for the Ubuntu Platform for TouchLay
[21:16] <Daniel0108> popey: he set up the IRC channel and some bots for us, at Ubuntu Austria. He is basically the maintainer of #ubuntu-at
[21:16] <MichealH-iPod> May that be web or desktop
[21:17] <MichealH> I have a meeting bot for them there
[21:17] <popey> ok
[21:17] <MichealH> The bot is highly wanted there
[21:17] <highvoltage> ok, I think it's time we call a vote unless there's any objections?
[21:17] <MichealH> And its a official irc bot
[21:18] <MichealH> (Sorry for the disconnect)
[21:18] <highvoltage> [VOTE] MichaelH for Ubuntu membership
[21:18] <MootBot> Please vote on:  MichaelH for Ubuntu membership.
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[21:18] <popey> +0
[21:18] <MootBot> Abstention received from popey. 0 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 0
[21:18] <popey> I am failing to see sustained and significant contribution
[21:18] <iulian> -1
[21:18] <MootBot> -1 received from iulian. 0 for, 1 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -1
[21:19] <highvoltage> I'm really tempted to give him the benefit of a doubt, he's been really enthusiastic about membership and has contributed for a while.
[21:19] <MichealH> I will now be on my iPod
[21:19] <stgraber> +0
[21:19] <MootBot> Abstention received from stgraber. 0 for, 1 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -1
[21:19] <MichealH> Need to go from the laptop
[21:20] <highvoltage> +0 [ good contributions but we need to see more evidence of sustained contributions on the membership application ]
[21:20] <MootBot> Abstention received from highvoltage. 0 for, 1 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now -1
[21:20] <ogra_> +0
[21:20] <MootBot> Abstention received from ogra_. 0 for, 1 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now -1
[21:21] <highvoltage> nhandler?
[21:21] <MichealH> So its a no :(
[21:21] <highvoltage> MichealH: indeed. I'd like to add that a little patience might go a long way.
[21:22] <MichealH> Okay
[21:22] <highvoltage> MichealH: I don't think you should apply for membership at consequitive meeting either. why not take a few months to really build up your ubuntu profile the best you can? and then apply again
[21:22] <highvoltage> s/meeting/meetings/g
[21:23] <MichealH-iPod> Yeah
[21:24] <highvoltage> [ENDVOTE]
[21:24] <MootBot> Final result is 0 for, 1 against. 4 abstained. Total: -1
[21:24] <MichealH-iPod> I just try to help
[21:24] <popey> thanks highvoltage
[21:24] <MichealH-iPod> The best I can
[21:24] <highvoltage> [AGREED] -1 for membership for MichealH
[21:24] <MootBot> AGREED received:  -1 for membership for MichealH
[21:24] <highvoltage> MichealH-iPod: great. keep at it
[21:24] <highvoltage> thanks everyone, that concludes the meeting. congratulations and welcome to all the new members.
[21:25] <iulian> Thanks highvoltage.
[21:25] <stgraber> thanks highvoltage
[21:25] <elopio> sorry guys.
[21:25] <highvoltage> elopio: np!
[21:25] <elopio> thanks for your time, members of the board.
[21:25] <highvoltage> #endmeeting
[21:25] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 16:25.
[21:25] <di3gopa> yes, thanks everyone!
[21:25] <elopio> hope to see you some time soon. *hugs*
[21:26] <di3gopa> =)
[21:26] <mmgc84> :)
[21:26] <highvoltage> oh and special thanks to the none-EMEA RMB members who stepped in while drubin and cz... uhm laura is on holiday!
[21:26] <mmgc84> MichealH-iPod keep it up!
[21:27] <di3gopa> :D
[21:27] <sabdfl> right, hello all, CC members in attendance?
[21:27] <popey> o/
[21:27] <pleia2> hello :)
[21:27]  * persia waves
[21:27] <sabdfl> ...
[21:28] <sabdfl> hi all
[21:28] <pleia2> #startmeeting
[21:28] <MootBot> Meeting started at 16:28. The chair is pleia2.
[21:28] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[21:28] <pleia2> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[21:28] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[21:29] <pleia2> so the only thing we have on the agenda is that the Asia Oceania Membership board hasn't met recently
[21:29] <sabdfl> the suggestion is to add two members
[21:29]  * pleia2 nods
[21:30] <sabdfl> i wonder whether we should first have monthly meetings in ONE of the proposed times
[21:30] <persia> As much as I'd like to believe simply adding folk would solve it, I think it more strongly needs leadership, which I've completely failed to provide in the past six weeks (since we last discussed it).
[21:30] <pleia2> persia: are you on the asia-oceania mailing list? paultag sent an email on June 21st asking if any applications were recevied (this would have been several months back)
[21:31] <sabdfl> i'm generally inclined to give a governance group what it wants, but in this case it seems the issue is as much with existing members as with the shortage of additional ones
[21:31] <persia> very much so.
[21:32] <persia> pleia2, There have been a few nominations, although some are likely stale at this point.
[21:32] <pleia2> ok
[21:32] <pleia2> there is a list of nominees that we were working with the loco council on
[21:33] <pleia2> perhaps we can talk to one of them about being a leader/secretary of the board to do a better analysis of what needs to change? (who is active? will adding two time zone meetings help or not matter?)
[21:33] <pleia2> this is kinda what we wanted you to do, persia, but I think your plate is probably too full :)
[21:34] <persia> Adding two timezone meetings will certainly help: that's been something discussed since the second A-O RMB meeting.
[21:34] <persia> I'd kinda like to do it, but as I've not been doing so recently, would certainly appreciate not perceiving myself as a blocker.
[21:34] <popey> What's the main preferred UTC time for Asia-Pac meetings?
[21:35] <popey> or times
[21:35] <pleia2> popey: they've held them at 10:00 in the past
[21:35] <popey> ok, so Europe daytime.
[21:36] <persia> Time zones range from +5:30 to +13:45, so "evening" ranges from about 5:00 to about 17:00 UTC.  The most popular recommendations from prior discussions were something like 8:00 and 13:00.
[21:36] <pleia2> http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/01/30/regional-membership-boards-restaffing-2/ has details of when they were shooting for meetings
[21:36] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/01/30/regional-membership-boards-restaffing-2/ has details of when they were shooting for meetings
[21:37] <pleia2> so I think we need both: Add new members, find a board "leader" who is willing to be responsible for keeping the team on track
[21:37] <popey> yeah
[21:38] <persia> Probably best to have the leader in +8 or +9, as this is the best time to be able to do both meeting times.
[21:38] <pleia2> yeah, at least be able to peek in to make sure the 2nd meeting happens
[21:38] <pleia2> even if they can't attend fully
[21:39] <sabdfl> hmm.
[21:39] <sabdfl> we manage
[21:39] <sabdfl> we alternate times
[21:39] <popey> cc rarely has a list of 10 people waiting on action though, RMB's do.
[21:40] <sabdfl> true
[21:40] <sabdfl> would it make sense to split it into two? how much overlap is expected, would many members go to both times?
[21:41] <popey> is there suffient leadership to run two when there so far hasn't for one?
[21:42] <persia> The original proposal for the large size/two meetings model was to strive for 10 members, of which 3 would be UTC+10 or later, 3 would be UTC+7 or earlier, and the remaining in +8 or +9, striving for 7 attending each meeting.  I'm unsure how workable that would be in practice, but it seemed sensible when we started.
[21:44] <pleia2> I think it's a sensible way to start anyway, we can see how it works in practice
[21:45] <sabdfl> ok, let's try it
[21:45] <popey> I'd also encourage mails to the mailing list when people can't attend, because other RMB members can certainly step in
[21:45] <pleia2> we have a list of 6 potential nominees that the loco council was helping us with, I'll follow up with paultag's email to see abou getting some folks added
[21:45] <pleia2> popey: +1
[21:46] <popey> we had that tonight with the EMEA board
[21:46] <persia> I'll forward the list of nominees sent to the A-O list over the past while.
[21:47] <pleia2> persia: thank you
[21:47] <pleia2> that's it for the agenda
[21:49] <sabdfl> any other business?
[21:49] <popey> not I
[21:50] <pleia2> I think we're done
[21:50] <pleia2> thanks everyone
[21:51] <sabdfl> thanks all!
[21:51] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[21:51] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 16:51.
[21:51] <sabdfl> thanks for steering, pleia2
[21:51] <sabdfl> night!
[21:51] <highvoltage> popey: yes I'm really glad we had some help. was slightly harder keeping tabs on who have already voted though, but a nice excercise :)
[21:51] <popey> heh
[21:51] <highvoltage> night sabdfl