[06:04] <pitti> so, time for milestone freeze
[08:10] <stgraber> wow, Edubuntu built today! /me starts downloading
[08:12] <pitti> stgraber: it already built on Saturday ;)
[08:14] <stgraber> ah right, I started downloading it at the hotel before leaving. Wanted to continue at the airport but there wasn't free wifi and then Sunday's build failed :)
[08:28] <jibel> can I start publishing images to the tracker ?
[08:30] <pitti> jibel: not the ubuntus yet, please; I need to rebuild them for the new lightdm
[08:30] <pitti> bug 802271 is a sucker for testing
[08:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 802271 in lightdm (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "Characters sent to tty1 (affects: 9) (dups: 2) (heat: 60)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802271
[08:30] <pitti> jibel: supposedly fixed with the latest lightdm that just made it into oneiric
[08:31] <jibel> pitti, saw that but I never been able to reproduce, standing by.
[08:31] <pitti> I'm currently running an alternate amd64 smoketest
[08:31] <pitti> jibel: oh? it's 100% reproducible in kvm for me
[08:31] <pitti> jibel: anyway, I think there's no rush
[08:31] <pitti> jibel: if you could start with posting kubuntu?
[08:32] <pitti> mythbuntu and u-studio also don't seem to use lightdm
[08:32] <stgraber> please don't post edubuntu as we're also using lightdm. I'm doing a bit of smoke testing on the current build anyway and might have some other things to fix (will know in ~45min)
[08:33] <pitti> right, ubuntu/edubuntu/xubuntu use lightdm
[08:33] <pitti> once my alternate test install is finished, I'll check if I still get the lightdm bug, and upgrade to the new version
[08:35] <pitti> jibel: bug 791883 might spoil Kubuntu, I'm unsure about how widespread it is
[08:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 791883 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 3 other projects) "ubi-console-setup.py:set_keyboard() gets error 141 (crashes) in Kubuntu (affects: 1) (heat: 125)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791883
[09:25] <pitti> jibel: I don't get the lightdm race in a KVM install either
[09:25] <pitti> but when booting the desktop CD
[09:25] <pitti> so I'll just rebuild teh ubuntu desktops, check if it's fixed there now
[09:26] <pitti> and if so, rebuild xubuntu/edubuntu
[09:26] <stgraber> I'll need to upload a new edubuntu-live for Edubuntu, so please wait for the rebuild.
[09:26] <pitti> today's ubuntu alternate installs fine
[09:26] <pitti> stgraber: ok, please prod me
[09:26] <ogra_> hmpf
[09:26] <ogra_> arm fails builds on compiz/unity
[09:26] <pitti> ogra_: ?
[09:27] <ogra_> usual archive skew i guess
[09:28] <stgraber> also, for some reason lightdm didn't work properly when booting Edubuntu... My VM got to vt1 which was running a getty as it's supposed to. Doing a ps showed an X server running on some other vt. Switching to it crashed X (apparently). To get a working Live session, I then had to do a "sudo start lightdm".
[09:28] <stgraber> not sure if that's what you'd get with bug 802271 affecting a livecd
[09:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 802271 in lightdm (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "Characters sent to tty1 (affects: 9) (dups: 2) (heat: 60)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802271
[09:29] <stgraber> or if that was something completely different
[09:30] <pitti> stgraber: that's exactly this issue, yes
[09:30] <pitti> current lightdm is supposed to fix it
[09:30] <pitti> but needs confirmation
[09:30] <pitti> stgraber: I get the same when booting ubuntu desktop live in kvm
[09:31] <ogra_> argh
[09:31] <ogra_> unity ftbfs
[09:31] <stgraber> ok cool, so hopefully with that fix + the new edubuntu-live we should have something that's pretty good (rest looks good for now).
[09:32] <ogra_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:32] <ogra_>  libnux-1.0-dev : Depends: libnux-1.0-0 (= 1.0.2-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[09:32] <ogra_> E: Broken packages
[09:32] <ogra_> hmm, might be a timing issue
[09:32]  * ogra_ gives back
[09:33] <stgraber> oh, interesting: apport-unpack, "NameError: name 'apport' is not defined" :)
[09:34] <stgraber> pitti: I guess you should do s/apport.fatal/fatal/g in apport-unpack. Want a patch for that?
[09:35]  * ogra_ gives back ppc too, seems to have the same issue
[09:36] <stgraber> oh, why is gdm still on edubuntu's dvd? that can't be good :)
[09:37] <ogra_> fix your seeds :)
[09:37] <stgraber> stgraber@castiana:~/data/vm/iso$ grep -r gdm ~/data/code/seeds/edubuntu.oneiric/
[09:37] <stgraber> stgraber@castiana:~/data/vm/iso$
[09:38] <ogra_> whhee
[09:38] <stgraber> argh, sabayon hard-depends on it...
[09:39] <pitti> stgraber: fixed in trunk, thanks!
[09:40] <ogra_> k, looks like unity will build on both platforms ..
[09:42]  * stgraber starts poking at sabayon...
[09:45] <stgraber> pitti: edubuntu should be good for a rebuild when both edubuntu-live and sabayon are done building and published
[09:47] <pitti> stgraber: thanks; added tabs for their build pages
[10:03] <pitti> stgraber: hm, sabayon building too long
[10:03] <pitti> stgraber: so I'll rebuild the edubuntu CDs at 1200 UTC
[10:03] <stgraber> ok, sounds good
[10:04] <stgraber> I'm off for lunch anyway (till ~ 11:00 UTC)
[10:06] <pitti> stgraber: still in Europe?
[10:07] <stgraber> yep, in Switzerland for two weeks
[10:11] <pitti> jibel: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20110705.1/ arrived; I'm testing this for the lightdm VT issue
[10:13] <jibel> pitti, ok, syncing
[10:23] <pitti> jibel: yay, this fixes it for me
[10:25] <jibel> \o/
[10:30] <pitti> jibel: I added the Ubuntu desktops and the upgrade/netboot bits to the iso tracker now
[10:30] <pitti> I'll rebuild alternate and xubuntus now
[10:30] <jibel> pitti, thanks
[10:31] <pitti> jibel: can you do a smoketest of the desktops for installation?
[10:31] <jibel> pitti, sure
[10:33] <pitti> and then in 1.5 hours edubuntu
[10:34] <jibel> smoketest is running. time to prepare some lunch. back in a bit
[10:36] <pitti> jibel, Daviey: do you know what the name of http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-preinstalled/20110705/ should be?
[10:36] <pitti> I don't find an entry like "Ubuntu Server Preinstalled (armel)" in the iso tracker
[10:37] <pitti> or is that "Ubuntu Headless armel+omap3"?
[10:37] <pitti> ah no, this has its own dir (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-headless/daily-preinstalled/) and is fairly out of date
[10:38] <ogra_> pitti, i guess tobin is a bit behind, healdess was renamed to server last week
[10:38] <ogra_> tracker was likely not updated yet
[10:38] <ogra_> pitti, ignore headless
[10:38] <pitti> so should we rename the headless thing to server in the iso tracker?
[10:39] <ogra_> yes
[10:39] <ogra_> i would have loved to keep headless until we have a chicken subarch ... but the others disagreed :P
[10:39] <ogra_> so now its all server :)
[10:41] <pitti> hm, I can't actually remove/rename products
[10:41] <ogra_> then put it under headless and GrueMaster can solve it if he is up, i think he can change names
[10:41] <pitti> jibel, stgraber: ^ do you know how to do this? apparently I can add a new product "Ubuntu Server armel+omap3" (same for omap4), but I'd like to remove the headless cruft, too
[10:41] <ogra_> if he doesnt, he at least knows who can
[10:41] <pitti> ok, fair enough
[10:42] <jibel> pitti, I'll do, this can only be done with an update in the database
[10:42] <pitti> jibel: thanks
[10:42] <ogra_> (its not like A2 is tomorrow, no hurry :) )
[10:42] <pitti> ogra_: I remove http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-headless/ then
[10:42] <pitti> as it's confusing now
[10:42] <ogra_> yep
[10:43] <pitti> gone
[10:43] <jibel> ogra_, is it a new product or a rename of headless ? from bug 805811 it is not clear
[10:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 805811 in ubuntu-qa-website "Need to update the arm image list for Alpha 2 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805811
[10:43]  * pitti lunch &
[10:44] <ogra_> let me check
[10:45] <ogra_> jibel, what was headless before is now server ...
[10:45] <ogra_> what was netbook before is now desktop
[10:45] <ogra_> in the first case nothing but the name changed, in the second case we actually changed seeds
[10:46] <ogra_> hedless and netbook are definitely dead
[10:46] <jibel> ogra_, ok I'll update the names of the products on the tracker. thanks.
[10:47] <pitti> I'll remove ubuntu-netbook/ from cdimage, too
[10:47] <ogra_> only the dailies please :)
[10:48]  * ogra_ isnt sure there are any releases under the direcrtory tree
[10:48] <pitti> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-preinstalled/
[10:48] <pitti> ogra_: apparently not
[10:48] <ogra_> then go for it
[10:48] <pitti> only three dailies from June
[10:49] <ogra_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/releases/ has them
[11:13] <jibel> pitti, desktop amd64 is ok, I get bug 791139 with i386 running on VBox on an amd64 host.
[11:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 791139 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "When booting from an ISO, a shell is displayed for 2 min before the graphics environment starts (affects: 1) (heat: 129)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791139
[12:03] <pitti> jibel: ah, I don't get that on my amd64 system with kvm
[12:10] <pitti> ogra_: hm, unity built on armel, but is still uninstallable on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/oneiric_probs.html; do you know why?
[12:10] <pitti> some compiz issue?
[12:11] <stgraber> pitti: ok, apparently both sabayon and edubuntu-live are built and published. Should be good for an edubuntu rebuild.
[12:11] <pitti> yep, triggering
[12:11] <stgraber> thanks!
[12:11] <pitti> xubuntu dailies are almost done
[12:12] <pitti> ubuntu/xubuntu alternates posted
[12:24] <pitti> xubuntu desktop posted
[12:26] <pitti> cjwatson: do you have an idea how widespread the kubiquity crash in bug 791883 is?
[12:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 791883 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 3 other projects) "ubi-console-setup.py:set_keyboard() gets error 141 (crashes) in Kubuntu (affects: 1) (heat: 125)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791883
[12:26] <pitti> does ubiquity just need a rebuild against xkb-data, like console-setup? or more involved changes?
[12:26] <pitti> ubuntu daily-preinstalled failed to build
[12:34] <ogra_> hmm, i did get empty failure mail
[12:35] <ogra_> pitti, hmm, linux-omap4 ...
[12:36] <ogra_> do we miss a meta upload ?
[12:36] <pitti> perhaps?
[12:36] <pitti> kubuntu preinstalled failed as well (at least on sycamore; annonaceae still busy)
[12:37] <ogra_> same issue
[12:37] <ogra_> omap 3 should build
[12:39] <pitti> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/oneiric/ubuntu-omap/ doesn't seem to have the current logs yet
[12:39] <pitti> ogra_: where did you see the failure?
[12:40] <ogra_> tim is on it, there was a kernel upload on the 21st
[12:40] <pitti> ok, great
[12:40] <ogra_> on sycamore directly
[12:40] <ogra_> w3m from antimony
[12:40] <pitti> ogra_: did annonaceae.buildd for ubuntu preinstalled have a different problem then?
[12:40] <pitti> that's omap3, right?
[12:41] <ogra_> did that fail too ?
[12:41]  * ogra_ checks mail
[12:41] <pitti> ah, found the log
[12:41] <ogra_> oh, right
[12:41] <Ursinha> 321
[12:41] <pitti> still compiz-core breaking unity < 4.2.0
[12:41] <Ursinha>    ;
[12:42] <Ursinha> erm, sorry
[12:42] <ogra_> pitti, likely missed the publisher
[12:43] <pitti> so presumably kubuntu on omap3 should have a real chance
[12:43] <pitti> ogra_: so I'll wait for the meta-omap upload before triggering another build
[12:43] <ogra_> heh, if there are no other package issues, yeah
[12:43] <ogra_> omap4, but yeah
[12:43] <pitti> nux, compiz, unity appear current in madison
[12:44] <pitti> so yes, probably a publisher race condition
[13:27] <ScottK> pitti: Are you driving the bus for Alpha 2?
[13:27] <pitti> ScottK: yes
[13:28] <ScottK> For Kubuntu we're considering giving Alpha 2 a pass.
[13:28] <ScottK> Getting our KDE packaging reworked for KDE 4.7 still isn't quite complete and we have an unresolved ubiquity-kde crasher that means you can't install from the live CD.
[13:29] <ScottK> So the benefit of Kubuntu Alpha 2 ISOs would be, probably, not a lot and testing them will distract people from getting some of this stuff fixed.
[13:29] <ScottK> Thoughts on this?
[13:29] <ScottK> pitti: ^^^
[13:31] <pitti> ScottK: seems entirely reasonable from my POV; that should be the call of the Kubuntu developers really, for whom I consider you one of the best representatives :)
[13:31] <pitti> ScottK: I pinged Colin about the ubiquity crash earlier on, but I suppose he's on holiday
[13:32] <ScottK> I know maco has tried to get it sorted, but AFAIK didn't get a solution yet.
[13:32] <pitti> ScottK: do you want me to disable the kubuntu images in the tracker, or still leave them there for interested parties?
[13:32] <ScottK> I'd say leave them for now.
[13:32] <ScottK> Maybe a miracle will occur in the next 24 hours ...
[13:33] <pitti> not unheard of!
[13:38] <pitti> ogra_: ah, linux-meta-ti-omap4 build in accepted; so we can spin in 1.5 hours
[13:43] <ogra_> great
[13:43]  * ogra_ crosses fingers nux is fine
[14:01] <pitti> stgraber: bah, edubuntu failed for some reason (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/20110705.1/), checking
[14:03] <pitti> hash sum mismatch in apt
[14:03]  * pitti tries again
[14:04] <pitti> ScottK: ironically the omap3 image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-preinstalled/20110705/ built just fine :)
[14:04] <ScottK> :-)
[14:04] <pitti> ScottK: circumventing the installer does have its advantages apparently
[14:11] <stgraber> pitti: at least the livefs looks good, that's usually a good start
[14:11] <pitti> stgraber: right, I think the hash sum mismatch is an old and common problem
[14:11] <pitti> stgraber: I'm just restarting the iso build, not the live fs build
[14:12] <stgraber> ok, good. That's the "fast" part of our build process :)
[14:14] <pitti> faster, anyway (still taking some 15 minutes)
[14:32] <pitti> stgraber: worked now
[14:33] <stgraber> yeah!
[14:37] <pitti> stgraber: still being mirrored; added to tracker now
[14:39] <stgraber> thanks. I'll start rsyncing as soon as they're done mirroring
[14:39] <pitti> amd64 is there
[14:47] <skaet> FYI: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview appears to have been deleted over the weekend.   Am working with IS to restore it.
[14:47] <pitti> hey skaet
[14:48] <pitti> eww
[14:48] <pitti> skaet: some piece of good news to compensate: LP can actually look for "bugs which do not have this tag"
[14:48] <skaet> hiya pitti,  yeah,  nice thing to start the week of with :P
[14:48] <skaet> nice news is always welcome
[14:48] <pitti> skaet: so I made up an actually useful alpha-2 bug list
[14:48] <skaet> :)
[14:48] <pitti> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=39141&field.tag=-ftbfs
[14:49] <pitti> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/ is still having way too few red bugs; apparently this milestone's big disaster is still waiting to be discovered
[14:50] <skaet> From the backscrolls,  looks like Kubuntu isn't going out.
[14:52] <GrueMaster> Morning.  I notice that the iso.qa.ubuntu.com only lists netboot arm omap for armel.  While I am fine only testing that, I don't think it is all we have.  :P
[14:54] <ogra_> GrueMaster, headless were dropped, and i thought jibel added server
[14:55] <GrueMaster> No server, no dektop.  Only netboot for omap (not omap4).
[14:55] <pitti> GrueMaster: omap3 kubuntu built
[14:56] <pitti> GrueMaster: still waiting for the linux-meta-ti-omap package to publish until any omap4 image will actually build
[14:56] <ogra_> GrueMaster, desktop are both broken atm
[14:56] <pitti> and this morning's omap3 desktop failed due to unity (shoudl also be fixed now)
[14:56] <GrueMaster> ok
[14:56] <ogra_> server omap3 should exist though
[14:56] <pitti> GrueMaster: will do a spin in an hour, when the meta package is on the mirrors
[14:56] <GrueMaster> Why am I not surprised.
[14:56] <pitti> server on iso tracker is blocked on jibel or someone with DB access to rename the product
[14:57] <GrueMaster> btw, I am experiencing a 1.5s lag on irc.  Not sure why yet.
[14:57]  * Daviey ponders.
[14:57] <skaet> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview has been restored.
[14:58] <pitti> yay
[14:59] <pitti> skaet: I'll see to adding some desktop news there
[14:59] <pitti> unity 2d, umask 002, thunderbird, deja-dup, etc.
[14:59] <skaet> thanks pitti!  :)
[14:59] <pitti> skaet: but maybe not before tomorrow morning; have desktop team meeting coming up soon, and still fiddling with images and archive consistency
[14:59] <pitti> sounds ok?
[14:59] <skaet> it still needs some of the old bugs pruned out of it (and new ones added of course)
[15:00] <skaet> pitti,  tomorrow morning your time is fine.  Thanks!
[15:00]  * skaet goes and cleans out the old bugs now then.
[15:01] <skaet> Daviey,  ogra_ - I'll go make the structural changes now to reflect we're not doing headless, but rather ubuntu server for arm.   Can you put the overview info in to your sections by 1300 UTC?
[15:02] <Daviey> skaet: 1300 UTC today?
[15:03] <ogra_> or yesterday ?
[15:03] <ogra_> :P
[15:03] <ogra_> (obviously not today)
[15:03] <Daviey> ogra_: Do you think this is one for NCommander to attack?
[15:03] <ogra_> he is on vacation
[15:03] <Daviey> slack.
[15:04] <Daviey> ogra_: Should i have a punt, or are you over it?
[15:04] <skaet> Daviey, ogra_ 1300 UTC tomorrow.
[15:04] <ogra_> well, i dont have much to say apart from headles being server now and netboot existing
[15:04] <Daviey> Ah! perfect
[15:05] <skaet> sorry,  should have been more explicit.
[15:05] <Daviey> ogra_: has netboot instructions been documented?
[15:05] <pitti> bug 805811, FTR
[15:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 805811 in ubuntu-qa-website "Need to update the arm image list for Alpha 2 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805811
[15:05] <ogra_> Daviey, i dont think so ...
[15:05] <ogra_> but i'm not sure
[15:05] <ogra_> probably GrueMaster knows more ?
[15:05] <ogra_> NCommander didnt tell me about docs yet
[15:06] <Daviey> ogra_: Can you or GrueMaster check into that, and i'll try to tackle the tech overview and link to those docs.
[15:06] <GrueMaster> Daviey: Not yet for arm.  I was hoping they were for x86/amd64.
[15:06] <GrueMaster> It is on my todo for A2, so it will get done today or tomorrow.
[15:07] <Daviey> GrueMaster: Ah, the experience is idential to /normal/ platforms?
[15:07] <GrueMaster> Yes.  Should be identical.
[15:08] <Daviey> splendid
[15:08] <GrueMaster> ignore the cdrom image.
[15:09] <stgraber> doh, Edubuntu still has gdm on the cd... /me investigates
[15:09] <GrueMaster> For now, use either the boot.img-fb or boot.img-serial and flash it to SD, then boot.  More work needs to be done for PXE boot.
[15:10]  * GrueMaster starts hunting for the elusive morning coffee.
[15:10] <stgraber> hmm, I don't get it. The only thing "aptitude why" gives me is a suggest from some package. Must be something else...
[15:10] <Daviey> GrueMaster: yeah, it was the PXE experience i was hoping was documented... i thought that was what would differ.
[15:11] <stgraber> oh fun, and apparently it's only on the 64bit CD. i386 is fine...
[15:12] <stgraber> s/CD/DVD/g
[15:13] <GrueMaster> Daviey: Well, pxe only started happening last Thursday at the rally.
[15:15] <Daviey> (/me is most excited about this.)
[15:15] <stgraber> pitti: as amd64 built a bit before i386 and only amd64 ships gdm I'm tempted to think it's just a race condition and a rebuild of Edubuntu livefs will be enough to get rid of gdm. I'm currently running germinate locally to make sure.
[15:20] <jibel> GrueMaster, I added the arm desktop and server products to the tracker. I need testcases, do I keep the same than for previous headless and netbook ?
[15:20] <stgraber> pitti: ok, I'm not great at playing with germinate but I couldn't find any reason for gdm to be installed (nothing in the seeds, no depends/recommends and it doesn't show up when installing edubuntu-desktop on a clean system). Can you start yet another rebuild of edubuntu?
[15:21] <stgraber> I'm testing i386 for now as it seems fine (at least it doesn't ship gdm :))
[15:21] <GrueMaster> jibel: yes, they should be the same for now.
[15:21] <jibel> GrueMaster, k
[15:25] <stgraber> pitti, skaet: I disabled Edubuntu DVD amd64 as the current build has both lightdm and ldm so we're never going to ship that ;)
[15:31] <pitti> stgraber: does it actually work, though? /etc/X11/default-display-manager should say which one actually gets started
[15:31] <stgraber> pitti: nope, I get a shell instead of a working session :)
[15:32] <stgraber> gdm is running on some vt but not on the one I see when the DVD starts
[15:32] <stgraber> so the user may get a working session by switching vt or by killing gdm + starting lightdm
[15:32] <pitti> stgraber: ok, so we'll rebuild?
[15:32] <pitti> I'm in a meeting now
[15:35] <stgraber> pitti: let me just poke at i386 for 5 minutes
[15:38] <stgraber> pitti: yep, I triple-checked that i386 works as expected (as in, installs), so please start a rebuild whenever you've time.
[15:38] <pitti> stgraber: weird; so we missed a publisher cycle somehow?
[15:38] <pitti> I started it well after the one that published the new sabayon
[15:39] <stgraber> pitti: I'm really not sure. I have the right version of sabayon on amd64 too but "aptitude why" can't tell me why gdm is on there
[15:40] <stgraber> pitti: and it's not on i386 and not mentioned anywhere in the seeds...
[15:44] <pitti> stgraber: I can just trigger a rebuild
[15:44] <pitti> stgraber: if it's still failing, nothing is lost except for some buildd entropy
[15:44] <stgraber> pitti: that'd be great. If I still get gdm on amd64 after a rebuild I'll wait for Colin who should be back tomorrow :)
[15:45] <pitti> stgraber: running
[15:45] <stgraber> thanks!
[15:45] <pitti> stgraber: would you mind adding it to the tracker if it lands? I'll probably be AFK when it finishes (~ 1 hour)
[15:46] <stgraber> pitti: sure, will do.
[15:46] <pitti> thanks
[15:47] <stgraber> skaet: btw, don't worry if you see "bug 0" popping up somewhere. I had to give a bug number to be able to mark the image as broken (and didn't have a LP bug number as it was a race in the build process ;)).
[15:47] <ubot4> stgraber: Bug 0 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/0 is private
[15:47] <stgraber> ubot4: nah, it's not private, it just can't exist ;)
[15:47] <ubot4> stgraber: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:48] <highvoltage> oh I just assumed bug 0 was something like "sabdfl isn't ruler of the world yet" :)
[15:48] <ubot4> highvoltage: Bug 0 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/0 is private
[15:48] <jibel> GrueMaster, arm server and netinstall added to the tracker
[15:49] <GrueMaster> Thanks.  We'll have to make adjustments to the netboot section, but that can wait until I have a testplan.  Not A2 critical.  For now, if it works, ship it.  :P
[15:50] <jibel> pitti, When arm desktop images are ready, there are now 2 products called Ubuntu Desktop armel+omap and omap4
[15:51] <GrueMaster> Yes, I am painfully aware of it.
[15:51] <GrueMaster> Ubuntu & Kubuntu.
[15:51] <pitti> jibel: oh, thanks! you updated the db for headless->server and netbook->desktop?
[15:51] <pitti> then I'll reflect the changes in the image release script
[15:53] <jibel> pitti, no I added new products and copied the testcases and links to the images, otherwise that was a mess.
[15:53] <pitti> jibel: can you remove the old products then?
[15:56] <skaet> stgraber,  ack ;)
[15:58] <GrueMaster> jibel: For A3, we should give the entire arm list an overhaul.  The testcases should closely match the testcases for x86/amd64 where possible.  The only differences should be in the install process.
[15:58] <GrueMaster> Can I ping you next week to go over the list?
[15:59] <jibel> pitti, you need to remove them completely from the db ? The release script does screen scraping or does it access the db ?
[16:00] <pitti> jibel: no, but the "add image" list becomes longer and longer, and we shouldn't pile up old cruft there
[16:00] <pitti> jibel: we do screen scraping
[16:00] <stgraber> jibel: btw, never remove a product or testcase from the DB
[16:00] <pitti> is there db access?
[16:00] <stgraber> jibel: just set the right state to whatever value means "removed" (yeah I'm not logged in the DB :))
[16:01] <jibel> stgraber, sure, I just make them 'invisible' to the users
[16:01] <GrueMaster> Removing a product would be bad.  YOu would lose all test history.
[16:01] <stgraber> jibel: yeah :) Just wanted to make sure we don't end up having some DB inconsistency ;)
[16:04] <jibel> pitti, i'll check the code, but I'm not sure I can hide something from that list.
[16:04] <pitti> jibel: ok; if it's causing problems, don't bother
[16:04] <pitti> I just thought it'd be straightforward to rename
[16:04] <jibel> heh straightforward doesn't match with isotracker
[16:06] <stgraber> jibel: heh ;) we just need someone to write a descent admin interface. IIRC I wrote some place holders for where it should be :)
[16:07] <GrueMaster> I like the way it is.  Keep the community guessing.  They'll never know what we're testing.  Muahaha.
[16:08] <skaet> jibel, pitti - in the pruning,  remember we're going to need to release 10.04.3, 10.04.4 images ;)
[16:09] <jibel> GrueMaster, no problem to review the list next week.
[16:11] <GrueMaster> cool
[16:14] <pitti> GrueMaster, jibel: I added server omaps to the tracker
[16:14] <pitti> although they might be affected by the bad kernel meta package as well?
[16:15] <GrueMaster> I have server images for 0705.
[16:18] <pitti> skaet: ok, can you take over from here? time to make/have dinner, and EOD
[16:18] <pitti> actually, it's time to kick off ubuntu armel builds again
[16:18] <pitti> I'll do that still
[16:18] <skaet> heh
[16:19] <skaet> I was just about to ask which are still pending at this point.
[16:19] <pitti> kubuntu preinstalled are built for omap3, but not added to the tracker, as omap4 is missing, and kubuntu asked to skip a2
[16:19] <pitti> skaet: edubuntu dvd building, amd64 needs test that lightdm comes up properly
[16:19] <pitti> and then added to tracker
[16:20] <pitti> skaet: ubuntu daily-preinstalled building now, needs adding to tracker when done
[16:20]  * skaet nods
[16:20] <pitti> that's what I have
[16:20] <pitti> the rest is testing, and uncovering the major breakage that we always used to have
[16:20] <skaet> thanks.
[16:20] <skaet> :)
[16:20] <pitti> so, see you tomorrow!
[16:21] <pitti> I'll be online again around 0430 UTC
[16:21] <skaet> have a good evening.    :)
[16:21] <pitti> thanks
[17:11] <stgraber> yeah! no more gdm on the new edubuntu build :)
[17:21] <skaet> stgraber,   ok to post?
[17:24] <skaet> stgraber,  hmmm...  no still seems to be building.  what were you testing?
[17:25] <skaet> heh,  ok, am seeing it now...
[17:36] <skaet> stgraber,  edubuntu dvds posted.
[17:56] <stgraber> skaet: I was monitoring the build logs at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/oneiric/edubuntu-dvd/20110705.2/
[17:59] <stgraber> skaet: thanks for posting them!
[18:15] <skaet> stgraber,  thanks for the updates to the release notes.  :)
[18:21]  * skaet heads out for lunch,  biab
[18:23] <GrueMaster> Looks bad for omap images (not omap4, just Beagle/BeagleXM).  u-boot script issues and kernel segfault early during boot.  Filing bugs now.
[18:23] <GrueMaster> Not fixable for A2.
[19:12] <skaet> GrueMaster, ack.
[19:16] <skaet> GrueMaster, ogra_ ubuntu daily pre-installed (omap, omap4) added to the tracker.
[19:16] <GrueMaster> Just saw them.  Pulling now.
[20:23] <jdstrand> skaet: hi! so, I just filed bug #806167 and bug #806166. these bugs can wait until after alpha-2 is released, however, if you are respinning the server ISOs anyway, I'd be happy to upload
[20:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 806167 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "CVE-2011-2212 (affects: 1) (heat: 258)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806167
[20:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 806166 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "CVE-2011-2512 (affects: 1) (heat: 258)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806166
[20:26] <skaet> jdstrand, thanks for the heads up.  No respins planned at this point, but we're still collecting initial test data...   Will let you know if a spin looks likely.
[20:26] <jdstrand> skaet: okie dokie
[20:26] <skaet> :)
[20:28] <skaet> ScottK, have updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseImageContacts to indicate there won't be A2 images for Kubuntu this time around.
[21:16] <GrueMaster> skaet: We have more failures, now on omap4.  related to bug #791552.  Will update iso tracker soon.
[21:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 791552 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 9 other projects) "No USB support on Armel (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791552
[21:16] <GrueMaster> Doesn't look good for armel images this release.
[21:17] <skaet> GrueMaster, urgh
[21:19] <skaet> GrueMaster, will you be updating the status on 791552?  (Fixed released --> ??)
[21:19] <ogra_> seems all our kernels are broken :(
[21:19] <GrueMaster> Yes, as soon as I test Paulo's test kernel.
[21:32] <ScottK> skaet: OK.  If that should somehow change, I'll let you know.