[07:18] good morning [07:18] is alpha2 available for download? [10:30] Hi azll [10:30] all [10:31] Ubuntu Desktop images and upgrades are published on the tracker. [12:00] Is there a blueprint on the decision regarding the planned size of the install images (e.g. 700, 703, 1G, etc)? [13:09] i have downloaded oneiric daily build last night and installed inside windows... [13:10] The backlight of my Acer aspire 4736z goes off just before the login screen [13:12] fortunately i got an lcd screen in my college with vga port the display is working fine. but it is in unity 2d mode. I can't use gnome session. [13:12] chadadavis - let me see if i can find it [13:13] My laptop display works in windows and also ubuntu 10.04 i386 [13:13] the only problem is i was always been unable to change the brightness of it. [13:14] I found same problem with my 11.04. but sometimes magically the display appeared there... [13:15] please atleast tell me how i am supposed to report this bug my email id is v.miheer@gmail.com [13:15] thanking you... [13:16] chadadavis - tada! https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-great-cd-debate [13:16] Thanks, brendand [13:17] vmiheer_: report the bug by opening a terminal and using [13:17] ubuntu-bug linux [13:17] chadadavis - see the diagram at the bottom for other related BPs [13:18] That will attach most of the needed log files [13:19] another thing i can see the stuff on my display using an led torch... [13:19] :-) [13:20] thank you charlie-tca i will try and get back... [13:23] brendand, it looks like we're aiming for 703MB images, then? [13:23] unless anyone here knows differently? [13:24] chadadavis - ubuntu-installer is a better hangout for that question, if you really want to know for sure [13:24] (although cjwatson is here) [13:24] Thanks, brendand, better to go to the right place ... [13:37] By chance the backlight has turned on this time... [13:37] I am using unity 2d [14:36] jibel: screen-reader install will fail on alpha2 [14:37] jibel: I sent a message to the qa ML asking that not be included for this milestone [14:43] charlie-tca, I read your mail, I've a bunch of updates to do on the tracker. I finish reviewing of ubuntu images and will removes will proceed with the updates later today. [15:31] stgraber, if you're getting edubuntu rebuilt, the gdm problem with edubuntu dvd amd64 affects i386 as well [15:33] chadadavis: really? I don't see the gdm package on the i386 image. [15:34] stgraber, but you verified that gdm was the problem? apt-cache policy gdm: Installed: 3.0.4-0ubuntu3 [15:36] chadadavis: having gdm on the DVD is a problem in all cases. Now booting amd64 here just gives a tty with gdm running on some other vt. Booting i386 gives a working live session [15:38] stgraber: I can sudo service lightdm start manually, but it doesn't start automatically. [15:39] chadadavis: did you dpkg-reconfigure gdm or lightdm? [15:39] chadadavis: on amd64 that's correct. On i386 I have lightdm running here. [15:39] stgraber: happens to me on i386 as well, under virtual box 4 [15:40] hggdh: neither [15:40] chadadavis: dpkg -l | grep gdm [15:40] chadadavis: do you get anything on i386? [15:40] chadadavis: please run it, and make sure lightdm is selected for start (I am looking at a simlilar issue right now, trying to reproduce) [15:41] stgraber: Yeah, it's the one I mentioned 3.0.4-0ubuntu3 [15:41] c65a42618211524083f16036026c0baf oneiric-dvd-i386.iso [15:42] chadadavis: can you check the md5sum of your iso image? [15:42] the one I just pasted is the one you should have [15:43] stgraber, different. I'll resync and get back to you if I find anything contradictory. [15:43] ok, so you very likely have 20110705.1 which indeed had gdm [15:43] 20110705.2 was supposed to fix that for both i386 and amd64 but for some reason the rebuild only did the trick for i386... [15:44] stgraber@castiana:~/data/vm/iso$ wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/20110705.2/oneiric-dvd-amd64.manifest -O - -q | grep gdm [15:44] gdm 3.0.4-0ubuntu3 [15:44] stgraber@castiana:~/data/vm/iso$ wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/20110705.2/oneiric-dvd-i386.manifest -O - -q | grep gdm [15:44] stgraber@castiana:~/data/vm/iso$ [15:45] chadadavis: Edubuntu DVD is rebuilding now. New builds should be posted in < 2 hours [15:46] stgraber, thanks. Sorry for false alarm. I'm subscribed to those images now too. [15:46] I am re-zyncing my xubuntu images; they seem to have gotten respun after I synced this morning [15:47] lightdm sigsegv-ed :-( [15:53] and again... [16:59] Xubuntu live sessions do not start; bug 799238 [16:59] Launchpad bug 799238 in casper (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu amd64 20110618 xserver abort (affects: 1) (heat: 255)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/799238 [17:01] WORKAROUND: install using the cd menu [17:06] charlie-tca, can you reproduce it ? [17:06] everytime [17:06] both 32 and 64bit [17:06] can not start a live session no matter what I try [17:07] charlie-tca, when you're on the console, does X starts if you don't touch anything and wait 2 minutes ? [17:07] no [17:07] it just sits at the black screen, forever [17:07] * charlie-tca tried waiting up to 10 minutes [17:08] 2 min is enough, I was thinking about bug 791139 [17:08] Launchpad bug 791139 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "When booting from an ISO, a shell is displayed for 2 min before the graphics environment starts (affects: 1) (heat: 129)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791139 [17:09] Yeah, but we have not been able to get a live session ever with lightdm [17:09] It's been broken for a while [17:11] jibel: on the ubuntu live install on VBox I get a whole heap of issues ziestgiest dies, USC crashes but doesn't close or stop functioning, no calendaring at all which is a huge regression I get the udev write permission warning so splash is seemingly non-existant, restart after install has press enter as white text on black instead of test on shutdown splash [17:12] I can go on but I don't have time right now [17:16] jibel: I was comparing output from both the old jenkins server and the new for the oneiric tests today and... they do *not* match [17:17] hggdh, could you check which image the old jenkins tested today ? I reran the jobs on the new jenkins because it was testing the wrong images [17:17] jibel: checking now [17:18] hggdh, that's the bug where the checksum file is updated but images are not available, in this situation it tests the images available from the cache. [17:25] trying the i386 desktop image live session on hardware, black screen, no cursor, [17:29] aborting attempt [17:55] stgraber, edubuntu i386 and amd64 auto-start lightdm now, and gdm is gone. [17:57] yeah! [18:10] anyone can run virt-manager on Oneiric? [18:19] sincing ubi & kubi 64 [18:25] charlie-tca, do you use specific hardware, graphics card ? [18:26] charlie-tca, live session works fine here on intel hw [18:26] I have 2 386 desktop machines, 1 64bit laptop, and a bunch of VBox machines I use [18:27] charlie-tca, and what is the setup of the system with the black screen ? [18:27] I can't get a desktop session on anything here, intel 845, ati, nvidia, and VBox [18:28] ati express 200, vbox, and ATI Radeon 9800 w/128MB [18:28] all giving the same things [18:30] I don't have any problem on vbox. [18:30] here, take at look at june - http://www.google.com/url?q=http://2tu.us/3dmh&usd=2&usg=ALhdy2__BW8olO1HKH4HdYEcAVhIv6zxCw [18:31] We haven't been able to get a live session between three of uis [18:31] and it hasn't changed [18:32] http://2tu.us/3e70 might be better to try [18:32] I just ran it on my hardware; see above. It failed again [18:34] I have to count one in four as a failure [18:55] hggdh, just installed testdrive but it crash, do you need something from this crash ? [19:06] njin, probably bug 805985 [19:06] Launchpad bug 805985 in testdrive (Ubuntu) "testdrive-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV in dbusmenu_gtk_parse_menu_structure() (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805985 [19:07] jibel, perfect thanks === cking is now known as cking-afk [20:10] Should we be skipping images not listed on the tracker, e.g. ubuntu-dvd (i386/amd64) ? [20:13] chadadavis: if they are not on the tracker, they either need to be re-built or will not be published for the milestone [20:14] thanks, charlie-tca [20:14] yw [20:17] charlie-tca, chadadavis - I believe not having ubuntu-dvd on the tracker was an oversight. I've gone ahead and added them, since a set were built. [20:18] Oh, yeah. I forgot that part, too. [20:18] skaet, I thought that was odd, thanks. [20:18] chadadavis, thanks for asking. :) [20:18] Sometimes it is just forgotten, so you should always ask here. [20:18] * skaet nods [20:18] Then at least the right people know about it. [20:19] How should I let the tracker know that I cannot test the amd64+mac images, because they're too large (mac doesn't boot USB)? Doesn't seem like a real bug report. [20:20] It should be a "real" bug report, if it can not be installed because of the issue [20:20] OK, will do, thanks charlie-tca [20:21] Do other mac's have usb capability? [20:22] jibel: 10 minutes of black screen on [20:22] Hardware test; Intel Celeron 1.73GHz, 64bit; 1GB RAM; Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Video [20:22] charlie-tca, The new 8,x (from spring 2011, w sandy bridge) should be able to, but most of us dont' have those. I will ask around, though. [20:22] bug report then. Images are useless to mac [20:23] charlie-tca, kubuntu-alternate fits, but the others don [20:24] don't. I'm testing the DVDs on mac, because they boot, but hardware support will be less, hence my question about ubuntu-dvd [20:29] pace_t_zulu_ I thought you had a mac 8,x series? Have you tried booting the oversized amd64+mac images via USB on it? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [22:34] chadadavis: hi [22:34] chadadavis: haven't in a while === pace_t_zulu_ is now known as pace_t_zulu [22:34] chadadavis: has anything changed since natty launch? [22:38] pace_t_zulu, There is a new kernel. If I remember right, you could only boot the USB when the CD was also loaded. Would be interesting to check the new images via USB on the 8x series. [22:39] chadadavis: it would be interesting ... i am quite busy at the moment - but when i have the chance i will check it out [22:45] pace_t_zulu, no problem.