[14:11] mhall119, ping [14:18] DammitJim: pong [14:20] hey man, I don't know if i had asked you before, but does your pop up have brakes? [14:24] DammitJim: yes it does [14:24] electric? or surge? [14:24] DammitJim: as far as I know, there are 2 kinds of breaks for campers [14:24] yeah, those 2 [14:24] mine has surge [14:25] oh gosh... how big is your popup? [14:25] not that big [14:25] I don't see Jayco's with brakes [14:26] I'd think any popup would have to have some kind of breaks [14:26] do you know your model popup? [14:26] I think I might be ready to get on the popup bandwagon :) [14:28] mhall119: depends on gvw more than anything [14:30] that's probably true... I am just trying to decide how to go about this 'cause I need to outfit my minivan with the towing package and I don't know if I need to install the brake system controller [14:33] for a small camper no...for a larger one definitely...but it's easy to add on later [14:42] DammitJim: fwiw and reference my 24 ft boat with dual axle trailer has surge brakes and it's HEAVY. [14:52] how heavy is heavy? [14:52] I'm looking at a popup with dry weight of ~2000lbs [22:43] cmon floridian bastids [22:44] its only 645 [22:44] :)