[11:32] Morning [11:34] Good morning [11:35] Looks like now I'm getting followed by people on G+ that I have NFC who they are. [11:53] I have been followed by only one person who I have NFC about. I accepted him based on mutual circled people, he seems to be Linux oriented. [11:54] I have been followed by others i have VLFC about, but I at least recognize the names as people from Twitter/Identica/FB... [11:55] also, snap-l, I would point out that you did a Lococast about G+? So yeah... I would expect you get a few NFC's. You're a pseudo rock star. ;-) [12:10] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/ubuntu-meta/1.232 [12:10] Wolfger: Yeah, I'm a rock star alright [12:11] When I go to the sub shop and people I don't know ask for my autograph, then I'm a rock star. ;) [12:11] Apparently Evolution is being replaced by Thunderbird. [12:12] * snap-l checks it out [12:12] snap-l: yea, getting a lot of those lately myself [12:12] and from other countries [12:12] making for an interesting 'incoming' feed [12:15] I'm here at work and using my laptop thanks to rick_h_ :) [12:15] greg-g: awesome, glad it worked out [12:15] http://paste.pocoo.org/show/WVOYyFzG0HiRBqRiAIxw/ [12:15] so that came in my email today :/ [12:17] heh, better go protect your IP in china domain names [12:17] I know, who knew our little MI woodworking group was so popular [12:23] rick_h_: with offlineimap/mutt and your google hosted domain, do you download the "All Mail" folder or not? [12:23] no, I don't think so [12:24] folderfilter = lambda foldername: foldername not in ['[Gmail]/All Mail', '[Gmail]/Spam', '[Gmail]/Important'] [12:25] so you "archive" your inbox messages to a separate archive folder? [12:25] right [12:25] * greg-g nods [12:25] I have a folder Archive and use that with my A command in mutt [12:25] me too, but I was wondering if I needed to anymore. [12:26] Yea, I don't recall the original deal with that [12:26] I am experiencing an offlineimap issue that might make me redownload everything :/ [12:26] ouch [12:35] hmm, I might be able to fix it by just deleting the .offlineimap/Account-XXX folder (associated ones in there) [12:35] this is what happens when you let your harddrive run out of space and offlineimap tries to run, kids [12:37] dbl ouch [12:39] yeah, I need to figure out my photo storing method, can't keep them all, and videos, on the laptop harddrive anymore [12:39] geez [12:39] they make 1TB laptop drives now [12:40] So, anyone want to take bets on what application will get cut in O+1? [12:40] linux? [12:40] :P [12:40] brousch: not that perform like an SSD [12:40] i'm using a 500GB hybrid ssd/hd [12:40] i'm very happy with it [12:57] Man, I want I larger version of this to use as my wallpaper... http://static.arstechnica.net/assets/2011/06/vinyl-pirate-figure-intro-thumb-640xauto-23086.jpg [13:03] Heh [13:04] greg-g: Yeah, mail doesn't handle curvebals very well [14:31] hah, lovely work email on "cell phone ettiquette" [14:32] guess people can't find the vibrate button on their phones [14:34] Shuld get an iPhone. It's a switch. ;) [14:34] doh! damn horrible UX with those buttons [14:34] * snap-l got some new CC music in the mail today. [14:34] if only someone had thought to do the work to make them switches [14:34] ooh, nice [14:35] http://cryogen.darkmillenniumrecords.com/ [14:37] Problem will be waiting an episode to unleash this. [14:37] lol [14:37] Since 25 is the Big 4 of CC metal [14:38] well it's a bit out of my norm /me hides his green day in cloud player he's currently listening to [14:38] No worries. [14:38] rick_h_: Have you heard Amity in Fame? [14:38] but very cool that there's this wealth of CC stuff I never knew [14:38] Yeah, I'm having fun with finding this stuff. [14:39] don't think I've heard this before [14:39] funny that they have this roomba ad on the front page lol [14:39] http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/28245 [14:39] hmmm, hybrid ssd/platter laptop drive, just maybe [14:40] Heh, and that's why I have adblock installed [14:40] greg-g: how big is your current SSD? [14:40] 140 [14:40] wow, and all filled eh [14:40] The only thing that worries me about SSD / platter is what happens during a power failure, and what happens when the SSD hits max write cycle. [14:40] yeah, way too much video [14:41] s/video/pron/ [14:41] FTFY. [14:41] ty [14:41] yw [14:41] gotcha, yea I don't have much of that and keep my music cloud now [14:41] move those two and suddently I can live in < 60gb [14:41] rick_h_: personal cloud or ?? for music? [14:41] the amazon stuff [14:41] ah, yeah [14:42] I can't live with cloud music [14:42] since I get my mp3s there anyway, easy to hit buy and keep it cloud [14:42] a) FLAC is too big for cloud [14:42] b) See a) [14:42] lol [14:43] just need a player to read your s3 repo and buffer things for you nicely [14:43] I love the idea of cloud-storage, but it's not practical for me outside of U1 [14:43] you could run Zeya on a micro instance and have it read your S3 storage [14:43] http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/isimpledesign-amazon-s3-music-player-plugin/ close [14:44] Lamedrop to convert [14:44] hells no. [14:44] I said close...as in does the reading and such [14:44] just wrong format [14:45] upload would be free now [14:45] $8.4/mo for storing 660gb of music [14:46] and if you streamed it all out 3x a month another $13 in data transfer [14:46] Or I could buy a HD for that kind of money. ;) [14:46] never had s3 disappear on me :P [14:47] Truth [14:49] well, there was that one time when the whole social web stopped working because of amazon's downtime [14:50] but s3 never went down or away [14:50] Considering the average file on my music storage is 30MB, that might be fun. [14:50] rick_h_: oh right, it was only compute? [14:50] Though that seems a bit high. Probably more like 20MB [14:50] greg-g: right, and end of the day one DC [14:50] admittingly, it had multiple parts they said would never go down together [14:50] but it was still one DC went down [14:50] * greg-g nods [14:51] I need a rich benefactor.... http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=176029&sku=S203-101201&SRCCODE=WEM2730SS&cm_mmc=email-_-Main-_-WEM2730-_-tigeremail2730 [14:51] says the man with one server running bookie in one DC and all kinds of SPOF :) [14:52] Wolfger: You don't need a tablet [14:52] I didn't say I did. [14:52] This is not the droid you're looking for [14:52] You can go about your business. [14:52] I said I needed a rich benefactor. I *want* the Galaxy Tab [14:52] it's sexy [14:53] What you need is a nice, wholesome Nintendo 3DS. [14:53] No web browser to distract your game playing [14:53] lol [14:53] (Actually, I think the 3DS has opera) [14:53] so, FWIW. [14:54] man my boss is going to love me "I can haz memcached pls? kthx" [14:54] I'm just full of new stuff I want [14:55] heh [14:56] Memcached isn't that out there for the wants / needs [14:56] we don't currently have a memcache server [14:56] so I'm asking for hardware to run node, postgres, memcache, couchdb [14:56] figure wth, I'll do it on the db for now and wait for him to get sick of me hammering on it :) [14:57] Game playing? Social networking. The games I like won't play on netbook/tablet devices (yet) :-p [14:58] Also, for e-books and for pron [15:27] Anyone know of any good utilities to unf*** a Windows XP machine? [15:27] ie: any bootable Linux distros that can do virusscan? [15:38] snap-l: Knoppix [15:40] Does it have virusscanning built-in? [15:41] I recall that it did (years ago). [15:42] I've used systemrescuecd before [15:42] http://njlinux.blogspot.com/2008/01/virus-scan-windows-using-linux-live-cd.html [15:42] it has clamAV [15:42] so apparently requires one install from command line [15:44] http://www.crunchgear.com/2011/07/05/wingardium-leviosa-this-rotocopter-is-controlled-by-the-kinect/ [15:44] also: http://www.oreillynet.com/sysadmin/blog/2004/06/scanning_for_viruses_with_knop.html [15:45] the end of that video is great ^^ [15:45] Kinect-controlled copter? Sounds awesome. [15:46] will need to watch the video later [15:49] that does sound awesome [15:49] i love my kinect [15:51] I think my USB key is giving up the ghost. [15:51] either that or I have a machine that is just segfaulting for no reason [15:51] fucking shit [15:54] Lococast time. :) [15:54] I am about to lose it [15:54] lose what? sanity? [15:54] Sanity, temper, patience [15:54] not necessarily in that order. [15:54] brb. [15:54] oi. sorry to hear that. [15:56] gamerchick02: sorry up front for the technical talk of this month's lococast [15:56] :) [15:56] oh it's fine. [15:56] let me know if we managed to make any sense or not [15:56] was borderline if we should do that password part or not [15:56] you're talking about backups and such right now. [15:56] cool [15:57] heh :) [15:57] oh, metal. [15:57] hello *turns down speakers* [15:57] turns speakers back up to hear the talking. :-P [15:57] this is important to learn about though. [15:58] yeah, i had to change my instapaper and pinboard passwords because of the FBI taking Amazon Servers. [15:58] FBI took Amazon servers? [15:58] i love instapaper and pinboard. for reals. [15:58] no, was a different colo host [15:59] oh god i don't want to think of the passwords i'd have to change if someone got ahold of my machine. [16:00] one of the things i hate is having to sign up for companies' websites to apply to jobs. [16:00] yea, lastpass helps me with those these days [16:00] they want a "profile". and a password. [16:00] but some I hand pick still since I might need to enter on a phone and such (amazon for example) [16:01] so i end up using the same damn password on all of the sites because i'm fucking sick of signing up for company websites. [16:01] also, a lot of times, if i have to sign up for a new account (which i will never use again) i won't apply. [16:01] Totally ready to lose my shit [16:02] * gamerchick02 sends snap-l some tea [16:02] defac [16:02] bro-in-law's laptop is a piece of shit [16:02] wow, that was totally wrong [16:02] decaf [16:02] snap-l: you have to get out of that business man [16:02] not black tea, that hippy-decaf-rosehips stuff [16:03] oi. i help too many people with their computers. [16:03] what's wrong with his laptop, snap-l? [16:03] Well, what sucks is a) the DVD drive is apparently FUBAR [16:03] dear god. i feel for you. [16:03] b) USB-creator is a crashy piece of shit [16:04] * gamerchick02 sends shots of tequila to snap-l [16:04] snap-l: I always get that with usb creator [16:04] I'd go over and over between my wife's laptop and my own with my 3 usb disks [16:04] and eventually get one to take [16:04] c) I think the USB keys I have are starting to get errors [16:04] yeah [16:05] and someone is pinging JoDee while she's on the phone, so it sounds like a fucking submarine [16:07] 0-cranky in 1 minute flat. ;) [16:08] And we have booting computer with xubuntu image [16:11] <3 xubuntu [16:11] their "use generic application names" option is beautiful [16:12] :) i'm running xubuntu on my netbook [16:16] man, I wish teams that worked on software clients communicated with us :( [16:16] ?? implementing an API you provide? [16:17] I also wish Windows XP would just die in a fire [16:17] yeah, we've apparently been making life very hard for api consumers, and the fix on our side is a simple configuration change [16:17] gotcha [16:17] yea, hearing from users is good stuff [16:17] Windows XP is not completely dead in this house. i want to convert my mom over to some form of linux, but i'm not sure if that'd work. [16:17] but this company has thousands of lines of kludgy code to get around it [16:18] Anyone know offhand how big the clam files are nowadays? [16:18] basically a bunch of `dtoA.foo = dtoB.foo` lines [16:53] Apparently I hit the one mirror that was the slow-boat to china [16:54] Already at the point I was with about a half-hour of download [16:58] Oh, awesome. [16:58] Start the scan, and the thing locks up hard. [16:58] FML [16:58] wow. you really need some tequila, snap-l [16:59] * gamerchick02 is back from taco bell. i will probably regret that. and the fire sauce, but oh well. [16:59] mmmmmm [16:59] reminds me, I need to order some tennessee sunshine [16:59] some what, rick_h_? [17:00] http://www.redbagcollection.com/tennesseesunshine.html [17:00] what I got hooked on for any taco needs [17:00] oh my. [17:00] I bring it to qdoba and chipolte when I go [17:00] <_stink_> haha [17:00] <_stink_> you're not kidding? [17:00] there was some "kick ass" sauce at a place in Frankenmuth [17:00] and I'm out... :( [17:01] no, my wife hates it. I hid it in her purse in a ziplock bag :) [17:01] looked kinda silly. [17:01] <_stink_> you don't mess around. [17:01] <_stink_> i should know this [17:01] you need a murse, rick_h_ [17:01] then you can carry your netbook and your hot sauce with no problems. [17:01] lol, I'm not really the 'murse' kind of guy [17:02] i thank gods i'm a woman and can carry one. because if i couldn't, my pants/shorts wouldn't hold up. [17:02] well, I mean after you have some of that stuff, no sauce at taco bell is edible [17:02] seriously. i think i carry too much around. [17:02] not that their food is entirely either, but still [17:02] well then. i might have to try that [17:02] taco bell is a strange craving i get every once in awhile [17:02] no, i'm not pregnant. [17:02] yea, I'm with you [17:02] it just... [17:02] same boat, every other month, wife is working late, don't want to cook something...taco bell it [17:02] i go, i want some taco bell. and nothing else will work. [17:03] :) [17:03] it's from college, i'm sure. [17:03] hah, definitely [17:03] my fraternity house used to make late runs there and to BK whenever they had .99 whoppers. [17:03] <_stink_> yeah, i have a pavlovian response to the theme from the BBC World Service that airs on Michigan Radio from 11pm-4am [17:03] <_stink_> i hear that theme... must have taco bell [17:03] care full of 7 guys squeezed in ordering up tons of food [17:03] for $20 [17:03] <_stink_> from college days [17:03] /care/car [17:04] hah! [17:04] yes. [17:04] funny story: [17:04] lol, more to ship than to buy my year's supply of hotsauce [17:04] brother is a member of Delta Chi [17:04] booo :P [17:05] he's also one of the ones that wasn't drunk, this particular evening. [17:05] he's in his room, and 5 (yes 5) of his drunk as skunk brothers, wearing SOMBREROS, want taco bell. [17:05] he's the only one sober, so they go to him. [17:06] he's like, "i'm not driving you dressed like that to the taco bell drive through. [17:06] " [17:06] at kettering, rick_h_ [17:06] what fraternity are you a part of? [17:06] gamerchick02: yea, I was LCA there at kettering [17:06] * gamerchick02 is a theta phi [17:06] sorry, LXA [17:06] oooh! [17:06] or however you want to shorten it [17:06] sweet. [17:06] LXA works. [17:07] people that don't know hate the 'Chi' X thing [17:07] so I tend to do C usually [17:07] but yea [17:07] ok, thanks for the reminder gamerchick02, sauce is ordered for the next year [17:07] :) rick_h_ cool beans! [17:08] so, no murse for you? [17:08] Oh I'm going to hurt someone [17:08] you could carry everything you need. [17:08] can't run clamscan because I'm running out of memory [17:08] * gamerchick02 gets out of snap-l 's way [17:08] no, I'll just start carrying my laptop backpack around all the time [17:08] like I'm a traveling hippie [17:09] snap-l: "I'm sorry, I did everything I could. Here's your new linux machine" [17:09] +1 [17:09] maybe? [17:09] don't hippies carry hemp murses? [17:09] I don't think I've seen greg-g with one :) [17:09] rick_h_ has a point, snap-l. great idea! [17:09] Save for having to find some replacements for the stuff that he uses to tweak his RC cars and his multimeter, this is a great idea. [17:10] maybe it's time for a google search. *bows to the almighty google* [17:10] ugh [17:10] "and I pre-installed a bunch of books on your new hobby! ham radio!" [17:10] lots of stuff for that on there [17:10] <_stink_> haha [17:11] lol, rick_h_ [17:11] your new hobby. i like that. [17:11] http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8963 [17:11] rc cars are for kids, unless they're jets or other aircraft that I wish I could do [17:12] well, working in VM with usb is cool [17:13] actually, the vm and wine idea is a great one. [17:13] greg-g: hah, of course you'd come up with that bug :P [17:13] I debated long/hard on that. [17:23] :) [17:36] i refuse to get State Farm insurance. [17:36] i'm sick of them sending me pleas to switch my insurance. [17:36] they all do that [17:36] them and progressive. i will never do business with those companies. ever [17:37] trust me, I have state farm and get the same crap from progressive [17:37] they all need to have their reproductive organs forcibly and painfully removed. [17:37] i hate spam and i hate paper spam. [17:38] * greg-g nods [17:47] http://gamerchick02.tumblr.com/post/7269076338/americanroutes-1952-vincent-black-lightning [17:47] * gamerchick02 drools [17:47] beautiful. [18:12] i like the ending track for lococast. [18:12] http://mashable.com/2011/07/05/google-blogger-picasa-rebranding/ [18:13] hrm. google+ blogging? [18:13] google blogs. that's cool [18:13] i wonder if they're fixing the whole "no pages" thing. === Team-Xlink is now known as TeamXlink [18:35] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/top-terminal-commands-newbie/ interesting. and some upset in the comments, as is per usual with OMGUbuntu. [18:43] going through my ubuntu-us-mi label in gmail and keep seeing notifications that "this message may not have been sent by: email address" is this because you guys are sending from programs outside of gmail? [18:43] ie Wolfger's message to a subject "removing all but current kernel" [18:44] getting it also in emails brousch has sent [18:44] I think that's because it's going through the mailing list e-mail.... [18:45] i don't see it on greg-g's email [18:46] http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=185812 [18:46] Greg is not using Gmail [18:49] From Robert Citek's e-mail in that thread: Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 91.189.94.204 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of ubuntu-us-mi-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com) smtp.mail=ubuntu-us-mi-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com; dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@gmail.com [18:49] ah so its because of the list software [19:16] God, I hate Windows [19:16] i love to open windows in the spring when it's nice and cool out. /snark *ducks and runs* [19:17] This machine is essentially fucked [19:17] is there a way to try 7 on it, in all seriousness? [19:17] It's a Latitude D610 [19:17] 7 is like a million times better than xp [19:17] it was old when it was bought [19:17] should run windows 7 right? [19:17] eee. [19:17] maybe not. [19:17] what about Mint? [19:17] seriously. [19:18] works fine on windows 7 but need the vista sound driverhttp://forums.cnet.com/7723-7587_102-332366.html [19:18] If I put Linux on this machine, it's essentially useless to my bro-in-law [19:18] <_stink_> i can empathize with that. [19:18] and if I put 7 on it, it's essentially useless too [19:18] so can i. :( [19:18] sorry, snap-l. [19:19] plus, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have discs so I can slam it [19:19] i wish i could help you. [19:19] and frankly he doesn't have the $$ to go out and get a new machine, which is what I think he's going to do anyway. [19:19] because the problem isn't Windows, it's the fact that my bro-in-law will click on anything to get to where he wants to go [19:20] oh dear god. [19:20] viruses and spyware galore, eh? [19:20] he's not terribly computer literate [19:20] well, there's one that I think I wiped, but the machine has even more problems than that [19:20] Think whatever it was corrupted something on there [19:21] avg won't start up [19:21] ugh [19:21] what about microsoft security essentials? [19:21] <_stink_> yeah, it's tough. i tell people that once you have any malware, the only solution is to back up data and reinstall. [19:21] that's lighter and seems to work better for me [19:21] <_stink_> but with no backups or install media, that can't be done. [19:22] And I think it has just about every single update queued up since the last time I saw this machine [19:22] oh. my. god. [19:22] and he's been ONLINE all this time??? [19:23] gamerchick02: Not sure [19:23] he doesn't use the computer much [19:23] wow. [19:23] do they have a high-speed internet connection? [19:23] It's asking me to install SP3, though, if that's any indication [19:23] if so, then he probably has been. [19:23] damn. [19:24] Going to try an update, since there'a malicious software removal tool that should be installed [19:24] but frankly I don't see much hope for it in it's current state. [19:25] Honestly, if they made DOS versions of his programs, I think he'd be happier [19:25] I know I would [19:25] *shakes head* wow. [19:33] Whelp, xubuntu, here we come. [19:33] Just called him [19:33] I think I can figure something out for his multimeter. [19:33] and with some luck maybe Wine will handle the USB interface. [19:34] And it's not like I'm not a coder, and couldn't code up something for his multimeter. ;) [19:34] That too, and I can make sure this damn thing gets updated. [19:36] Oooh. Xubuntu will be much better for him, IMHO. [19:36] good luck! [19:38] Thank you! [19:39] you're welcome! are you going to tweak the ui to make it easier for him to work with? [19:39] I'm going to make this as much of a busy-box for him as I can [19:40] ie: he'll be able to get in, get out, and get done [19:40] good. [21:20] rick_h_: just fyi, I just used your address again for this: http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/07/05/free-official-ubuntu-book-for-approved-loco-teams/ [21:20] :) [22:17] greg-g: you're going to get me into trouble with the wife with all these unexplained boxes showing up :p [22:21] i just saw that and was about to share in here. [22:21] heh [23:50] :) [23:52] snap-l: rick_h_ brousch _stink_ ColonelPanic001 gamerchick02 jjesse widox Wolfger: ya'll gonna be able to make the IRC meeting in about 10 minutes? [23:52] I need to get better about sending out email reminders :/ [23:52] an irc meeting tonight? i guess since i'm here, sure. [23:52] i've never been to one. hah. i'm always gone somewhere. [23:52] i can sorta meet [23:53] :) [23:57] <_stink_> greg-g: on and off, yeah [23:59] cool