[00:00] <gogeta> babu: alot easer then it was to install hory
[00:00] <KM0201> heck yea.
[00:00] <seangrove> Hey all, I'm trying to launch an ubuntu image on EC2 for the first time, and having a difficult time of it - anyone have a link to a good step-by-step guide of launching one of the official Ubuntu EC2 images in the northeast/virginia region?
[00:00] <pooltable> qin ok
[00:00] <kwtm2> Wups, guess I typed this before I got connected to the channel.  My question was:
[00:00] <kwtm2> What is a nice simple web server I can set up on my Ubuntu desktop so that other computers (like my wife's iPad) can access files on the desktop via the LAN?  I remember something called LightHTTP or something, that was supposed to be easier to set up than a full Apache server.  I don't plan to expose it to the world-wide Internet outside our home LAN.
[00:00] <babu> yea ,look i mean i dont want to burn cd or download i just want to update it by auto download,u knw i have nt enough experince to use linux so that u
[00:00] <gogeta> babu: dl and burn new cd install that all will be well
[00:00] <KM0201> gogeta: or if his machine will boot usb, and you have a usb.
[00:01] <babu> i have 3 times of experince of linux use,lol\
[00:01] <gogeta> babu: its way to old to upgrade unfortanly
[00:01] <babu> ok,nevermind
[00:01] <KM0201> babu: updating that version of Linux, will literally take forever, if it even is successful, because so many of those servers are no longer maintained
[00:01] <babu> i mean no problem
[00:01] <pooltable> qin MusicBrainz Picard  found it thanks
[00:02] <swmail> seangrove, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EC2StartersGuide
[00:02] <need> they maximize on the other virtual desktop
[00:02] <need> well if i move windows#
[00:02] <need> they maximize on the other virtual desktop
[00:03] <coldpizza72i> can someone help me get my usb device on my guest os
[00:03] <need> well if i move windows#
[00:03] <need> to the border
[00:03] <need> they maximize on the other virtual desktop
[00:03] <Gryllida> need: Please, dn't repeat.
[00:03] <seangrove> swmail: Yeah, been through that. I imagine it's more ec2-specific stuff I need to get familiar with. Alestic.com for example made it easy to launch the image in north-east, but I think the official ubuntu images are only available in Asia Pacific
[00:03] <Gryllida> Don't even.
[00:03] <astraljava> kwtm2: 11.04? If so, please read: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[00:04] <kwtm2> astraljava: 10.04 LTS.  Would it still apply?
[00:04] <kwtm2> astraljava: But thanks for the response, in any case.
[00:04] <need> help
[00:04] <gogeta> babu: your like 5 years behind in terms of linux versions
[00:04] <Flannel> kwtm2: Probably 99% of it, but here's this one too: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[00:05] <maxtor> how to change gdm background?
[00:05] <astraljava> kwtm2: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[00:05] <astraljava> kwtm2: As you can see, there are differences in just the release numbering.
[00:05] <maxtor> does xubuntu use gdm too?
[00:05] <kwtm2> Flannel: Thanks for the response; same to astraljava.  Will read.  Thx.  Looks like Apache has been set up by Ubuntu to be easy to use.
[00:05] <gogeta> babu: you dont need to burn a cd if you have a usb drive of some sort
[00:06] <astraljava> Damn. Flannel beats me to everything. :D
[00:06] <need> help
[00:06] <babu> yea i will do t again or maybe burn the cd ,
[00:06] <qin> maxtor: Yes.
[00:06] <babu> sure thanx for encourahe me
[00:06] <astraljava> !ask | need
[00:06] <maxtor> qin: ok, how to change it's background?
[00:07] <qin> maxtor: Not sure.
[00:07] <need> well if i move windows#
[00:07] <gogeta> babu: why i always use a cdrw for distro releses
[00:07] <need> to the border
[00:07] <need> they maximize on the other virtual desktop
[00:07] <gogeta> babu: when new ver some out i just reburn it on the rw
[00:07] <gil> hello all - I am trying to recover a btrfs encrypted home partition that will no longer mount - I am in knoppix and can see the partition and a readme file that I can't actually access, but does anyone know what I do to decrypt and access the contents?
[00:07] <need> help
[00:08] <gogeta> babu: but these days all my pcs have sd card readers and i just use that
[00:08] <babu> gogeta would u plz guide me what kind of version of packg i need to use thats easy to learn GUI like window,remembr i m win user
[00:08] <need> help
[00:08] <babu> wow realy
[00:08] <babu> great man
[00:08] <brewster> was 11.10 released yet?
[00:08] <need> help
[00:09] <gogeta> babu: well unity is a big change from your standerd gui but it can still fallback to the old one
[00:09] <astraljava> brewster: 11.10 will be released in October.
[00:09] <astraljava> brewster: Hence the .10, in 11 (as in 2011)
[00:09] <gogeta> babu: it all comes down to your pref
[00:09] <brewster> yeah but i've seen stuff with support for 11.10
[00:09] <need> help
[00:09] <Gryllida> !patience | need
[00:09] <babu> lol,dontknw what saying ,,even i dont ware of linux terminology
[00:10] <gogeta> babu: http://www.xubuntu.org/ this one uses xfce and keeps the old look and feel
[00:10] <need> well if i move windows#
[00:10] <need> they maximize on the other virtual desktop
[00:10] <need> to the border
[00:10] <babu> so today i guess myself i need more leraning
[00:10] <need> help
[00:10] <Gryllida> need: Also I'm sorry, could you please ask question on one line, and include details?
[00:10] <babu> sorry learning
[00:10] <gogeta> babu: lol just a up2date distro
[00:10] <need> well if i move window to the border
[00:10] <need> it maximizes on another workspace
[00:10] <gogeta> babu: no wonder none of are tips would work lol
[00:10] <Gryllida> need: One line, please.
[00:10] <Gryllida> !enter | need
[00:10] <bazhang> need, you had this issue fixed in #compiz last week.
[00:11] <need> well if i move window to the border it maximizes on another workspace
[00:11] <brewster> rat
[00:11] <babu> what is ur proffession?
[00:11] <need> bazhang; sorry, where ? never been there
[00:11] <pooltable> qin MusicBrainz Picard  found it thanks that is it
[00:11] <Gryllida> Oh well, is compiz even preinstalled? I doubt that
[00:11] <gogeta> babu: unemployed network admin
[00:11] <babu> students>businessman
[00:11] <bazhang> need, so stop repeating please, and do what you were told then.
[00:11] <babu> wow,greattt
[00:11] <Gryllida> need: I don't have this issue
[00:11] <bazhang> !ot | babu
[00:11] <need> i wasnt here bazhang
[00:12] <claviusmond> im listening a streaming radio via rhythmbox, how do I record it?  kradioripper cannot start, it crashes, always
[00:12] <pooltable> off topic what are the thoughts on PSPVITA?
[00:12] <bazhang> babu, this is ubuntu tech support only, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:12] <need> Gryllida? Using Unity? move the window to the edge then try to maximize it
[00:12] <rww> !ot | pooltable
[00:12] <babu> ok sure thanx for all pplz
[00:12] <need> i wasnt here bazhang
[00:12] <Gryllida> need: Not using unity sorry. Please listen to bazhang, he knows more about this I think
[00:13] <pooltable> sorry is that a psp #?
[00:13] <rww> need: bazhang said #compiz, not here.
[00:13] <gogeta> babu: oncer you get a newer version of whatever ubuntu things will work alot better
[00:13] <babu> lol,today many pplz helping me and i m looking ther's faces like i m from MARZ.or ALIENS
[00:13] <babu> LOL
[00:13] <brewster> claviusmond: i use vlc and a wire connecting the headphone and microphone jacks to accomplish that
[00:13] <babu> ok thanx
[00:14] <trinimoses> hi all
[00:14] <trinimoses> i got a question
[00:14] <YST-008> howto convert video.mp4 to video.ogv
[00:14] <quix> Hi, anyone else experience loss of focus in some applications and copy and paste problems in unity?
[00:14] <trinimoses> i am trying to get a usb external drive to autoload on system boot..
[00:14] <trinimoses> any ideas on how i can ?
[00:14] <usr13> YST-008: Why do it?
[00:14] <rww> !fstab | trinimoses
[00:14] <gogeta> trinimoses: depends on the bios sometimes its esc others its f10
[00:14] <gogeta> or del
[00:14] <YST-008> for firefox
[00:15] <babu> Purple color of sky when i tired i look to sky
[00:15] <bazhang> babu please stop
[00:15] <brewster> YST-008: have you tried vlc?
[00:15] <quix> YST-008, you can use pitivi
[00:15] <quix> or handbreak
[00:15] <brewster> it converts media
[00:15] <qin> YST-008: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3119797/ffmpeg-settings-for-converting-to-mp4-and-ogg-for-html5-video
[00:16] <gogeta> YST-008: pitvi is supposed to be relly nice so
[00:16] <wslayer> stackoverflow ftw
[00:16] <ZykoticK9> YST-008, FYI webm might be a better (higher quality) choice then ogv (but should be playable in any recent browser)
[00:16] <pooltable> what is pitvi?
[00:16] <gogeta> pooltable: a new video encoder
[00:16] <claviusmond> brewster, lol, never though of that
[00:17] <gogeta> pooltable: has some nice modes and support
[00:17] <YST-008> sudo apt-get install pitivi
[00:17] <quix> I don't really get Unity. I used to have so many problems with firefox's context menus losing focus all the time on Unity then I switched to Opera and the problem seemed to be fixed. However, it's now affecting Opera as well.
[00:17] <gogeta> YST-008: dunno if its in the repos yet
[00:18] <ZykoticK9> YST-008, check out oggconvert if you want ogv
[00:18] <gogeta> quix: unity effects us all
[00:18] <quix> And if I drag and drop something within opera, the dock won't auto-hide
[00:18] <themrwilliams> Has anyone noticed that on 11.04, mysql (w/ upstart) doesn't load the mysql config file by default?
[00:18] <brewster> claviusmond: i use it all the time for grooveshark ;]
[00:18] <pooltable> gogeta anything in anything out http://www.pitivi.org/??
[00:18] <gogeta> pooltable: there it is
[00:19] <quix> gogeta, I've seen people filed bug reports on launchpad, any fixes for firefox's context menus?
[00:19] <quix> on unity?
[00:19] <astraljava> gogeta: `apt-cache policy pitivi`
[00:19] <pooltable> can you splice to part together?
[00:20] <gogeta> pooltable: http://www.pitivi.org/?go=features
[00:20] <babu> gogeta: i install opera ,but when i click itmit show starting opera
[00:20] <gogeta> pooltable: thats a yes
[00:20] <babu> few second it hide or nt open
[00:21] <KM0201> babu: the chances of you installing anything on a release that old, is slim to none... you need to upgrade
[00:21] <trinimoses> rww - at presetn my /etc/fstab only has /dev/fdo /media/floppy0
[00:21] <babu> ok
[00:21] <KM0201> babu: if its not already on there (installed out of the box) you're not gonna be able to install it.. you need to bring that machien to a current release.
[00:22] <babu> its path: Application>Internet >opera
[00:22] <KM0201> babu: you need to upgrade, i can't be anymore clear
[00:22] <KM0201> babu: just because it has a path, doesn't mean it will work
[00:22] <bazhang> babu, 5.04 is not supported. you have not upgraded it and are trying to install the latest opera on there?
[00:23] <babu> yes
[00:23] <YST-008> oggConver takes a long time
[00:23] <squirrels> i'm trying to install wubi, and i get: OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: u'C:\\ubuntu\\install\\ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso'
[00:23] <bazhang> babu, that will NEVER work
[00:23] <squirrels> what can i do
[00:23] <gogeta> babu: its not gonna work
[00:23] <babu> /home/babu/.local/bin/opera %U
[00:23] <KM0201> ..
[00:23] <babu> that is the path
[00:24] <gogeta> babu: your 5 years behind the times
[00:24] <pooltable> gogeta it is like virtual dud for window got to get it
[00:24] <bazhang> babu, so stop asking for support with 5.04
[00:24] <astraljava> gogeta: 6, to be exact. :)
[00:24] <gogeta> babu: its like installing halo reach in ms dos 5
[00:24] <wslayer> lol
[00:24] <gogeta> babu: just not gonna happon
[00:24] <Northernen> How can one search for something 'like something' in the repositories?
[00:25] <babu> bazhng very sad i nt like ur way of guide some one
[00:25] <Flannel> babu: Download this file: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.2/ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso burn it to a CD, and reinstall with it.
[00:25] <bazhang> Northernen, apt-cache search something
[00:25] <babu> ok takecare GOGETA have nice day
[00:25] <bazhang> babu, many people have told you this, not just me
[00:25] <gogeta> babu: 10.04 is lts thats a good one
[00:25] <babu> its amazing for me,thanx bye
[00:26] <pooltable>  how do i copy my termial and send here i got an erroegogeta
[00:26] <babu> yea but i have observed and appreciates it
[00:26] <Northernen> bazhang, brilliant cheers.
[00:26] <babu> and its making me damn encouragement
[00:26] <astraljava> bazhang: Like water down a duck's back. Let it slide. :)
[00:26] <babu> i hope ur nt asian ass
[00:26] <KM0201> ?
[00:26]  * KM0201 is really lost
[00:26] <Gryllida> babu, that is old version, not supported
[00:26] <bazhang> babu, pardon?
[00:26] <pooltable> gogeta got it
[00:27] <Flannel> babu: If you need help installing, you can follow the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/index.html
[00:27] <Boom_Farmer> pooltable: Highlight with mouse, paste on pastebin.com, put the link to pastebin here.
[00:27] <quix> he said you are a rude asian, bazhang
[00:27] <gogeta> lol
[00:27] <Gryllida> Move on.
[00:27] <Boom_Farmer> pooltable: Copy is ctrl-shift-C, if you're using Konsole in a bash shell.
[00:27] <Flannel> babu: If you need help with the above installation, don't hesitate to ask, but please, don't ask about anything else until you have done so.
[00:27] <quix> someone hook him up with Opera 3 or something
[00:28] <babu> Flannel i will an other day i have to go its bad day for me takecare ur nice pplz thganx bye
[00:28] <KM0201> quix: lol
[00:28] <bazhang> quix, 5.04 is not supported here. so no point in that.
[00:28] <quix> i know, duh
[00:28] <Pythux> hi
[00:28] <pooltable> ok in sound and audio how to i make another folder so i do not one long list of soft ware ?
[00:28] <Gryllida> Hi Pythux.
[00:28] <Pythux> how can i reinstall ark ?
[00:29] <Boom_Farmer> upgrade question: is it advisable to update from 10.04 to 11.04 by chained network upgrades, or by fresh install?
[00:29] <babu> 5.04 is not supported here. so no point in that yes true but doesnt means to be harsh
[00:29] <Gryllida> Pythux: `sudo aptitude reinstall ark`?
[00:29] <Boom_Farmer> Pythux: sudo apt-get install ark
[00:29] <gogeta> babu: linux isnt windows iif 5 runs 10 will to
[00:29] <Pythux> ..
[00:29] <brewster> Pythux: use synaptic
[00:29] <KM0201> gogeta: well, thats proably pushing it.. but most likely you're right
[00:29] <babu> all pplz guided me nice never burn it learn to be the nice very important
[00:29] <Flannel> babu: Please come back another day, thanks.
[00:30] <gogeta> KM0201: even if the live cd blew up you can alt install oin a friggen 486 if you relly whant to
[00:30] <pooltable> ok in sound and audio how to i make another folder so i do not one long list of soft ware ?
[00:30] <babu> its is nt availible in software collextion to update,do it
[00:30] <KM0201> gogeta: dunno, 486 is pushing it.. especially w/ unity, etc...
[00:30] <gogeta> KM0201: no unity
[00:30] <Boom_Farmer> babu: What's your native language?
[00:30] <babu> ok thanx FLANNEL thanx bye
[00:30] <KM0201> gogeta: even then you're still pushing it.
[00:30] <babu> my lang ,lol urdu
[00:31] <gogeta> KM0201: i have done it had a few dx with basic x
[00:31] <Pythux> ok thx
[00:31] <KM0201> gogeta: dunno.. i use lxde.. :)
[00:31] <Northernen> Which application is being used to change the appearance of the Unity side bar?
[00:31] <gogeta> KM0201: that was before lxde i was using jwm
[00:31] <KM0201> ya
[00:31] <quix> babu http://arc.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/
[00:31] <quix> all versions
[00:31] <Flannel> quix: drop it.
[00:31] <gogeta> KM0201: heck you can do bash only on a 286
[00:32] <bazhang> Northernen, you wish to disable/enable autohide? something else?
[00:32] <Pythux> when i right click on an archive and extract it ark keeps prompting me to overwrite again but i ticked 'apply to all'. help
[00:32] <quix> way, goes waaay back
[00:32] <quix> 2002
[00:32] <Northernen> bazhang, disable auto-hide. If possible have it not overlap with my current open window.
[00:32] <klj613> when entering input on the Terminal. how do i do a new line? (enter = submit) and tried several combinations of hotkeys... -.-
[00:33] <bazhang> Northernen, thats in ccsm if I remember correctly
[00:33] <usr13> klj613:  \
[00:33] <Boom_Farmer> Pythux: You may get better help in #kubuntu
[00:33] <trinimoses> guys question : what does the "exec" option in the fstab mean ?
[00:33] <klj613> usr13: thanks
[00:33] <bazhang> compizconfig-settings-manager Northernen
[00:33] <Pythux> Boom_Farmer: they dont answer
[00:33] <Boom_Farmer> Oh well.
[00:34] <rww> trinimoses: from "man mount" "exec: permit execution of binaries"
[00:34] <brewster> Pythux: have you tried using a different archive extractor?
[00:34] <Pythux> brewster: what do you recommend me ?
[00:35] <pooltable> like to make sound folder not one long list it a new separtor do that ?
[00:35] <Boom_Farmer> Pythux: What are you trying to extract?
[00:35] <brewster> Pythux: 7z
[00:35] <quix> this channel has great entertainment value
[00:35] <JOhn999> Hello, how can I get the Gnome style "sound preferences" in xubuntu?
[00:35] <gogeta> KM0201: toco bell cash registers are 486dx 2 running linux heh
[00:35] <brewster> it supports many formats
[00:35] <Pythux> Boom_Farmer: gz
[00:35] <Boom_Farmer> pooltable: Play around, perhaps 'new folder'
[00:35] <gogeta> KM0201: worked at once once
[00:36] <george_> is there anyway to install nvidia driver easily ?
[00:36] <KM0201> gogeta: but they are basically big calculators.. not tools to surf the internet, etc.
[00:36] <usr13> Pythux: tar zxvf file.gz
[00:36] <gogeta> KM0201: acully tuch ui and all full menu system
[00:36] <gogeta> KM0201: networked into the main machine
[00:36] <pooltable> boom farmer that what i what how do i do that ?
[00:36] <gogeta> KM0201: that wasent any faster
[00:36] <aeon-ltd> !nvidia | george_
[00:36] <Boom_Farmer> pooltable: Right click
[00:37] <usr13> Pythux: or just gunzip file.gz
[00:37] <LilleCarl> george_ i think ubuntu "automaticly chooses the "best" driver"
[00:37] <pooltable> boom yes then?
[00:37] <pooltable> boom edit ?
[00:37] <Pythux> and how to remove a core application ?
[00:37] <Boom_Farmer> pooltable: Right click, look for something like "make new folder", if that works, great, of not, oh foo. Play around.
[00:38] <Boom_Farmer> george_: What driver are you running now?
[00:38] <usr13> Pythux: apt-get remove
[00:38] <Boom_Farmer> george_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[00:39] <claviusmond> can anyone give me revies of this rhythmbox plug in? http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=35567
[00:39] <Pythux> usr13: remove ark without removing kde
[00:39] <claviusmond> reviews
[00:39] <squirrels> i'm trying to install wubi, and i get: OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: u'C:\\ubuntu\\install\\ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso'. what can i do?
[00:39] <usr13> Pythux: dpkg
[00:39] <astraljava> pooltable: Click on Places, choose Home Folder. Click on File, choose Create Folder. You will see 'untitled folder', give it a name, and hit <enter>.
[00:39] <wslayer> squirrels: google it
[00:40] <Snarsh> vmware player seems to do a lot better job with windows guests (and 3d acceleration) than virtualbox
[00:40] <usr13> dpkg -r package-name
[00:40] <bazhang> wslayer, dont ever recommend google here, thanks
[00:41] <Pythux> usr13:  dependency problems
[00:41] <squirrels> bazhang: well.. in fact he was right to do it
[00:41] <trinimoses> rww - this is what my addition to ym fstab looks like. .after what i have read
[00:41] <gogeta> bazhang: gogle is your friend
[00:41] <trinimoses>  /dev/sdb1       /media/Backup1  auto    rw,user,auto,exec,sync  0       2
[00:41] <gogeta> google
[00:41] <gogeta> bazhang: lol
[00:41] <squirrels> sorry for not googling first wslayer
[00:41] <FloodBot1> gogeta: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:41] <wslayer> bazhang: I felt it was better because he is getting no answer
[00:41] <bazhang> gogeta, thats not acceptable here, no
[00:41] <squirrels> orz
[00:41] <pooltable> astraljava,isnick in the sound folder under app folder how to ?
[00:42] <bazhang> wslayer, then just dont answer.
[00:42] <gogeta> bazhang: lol
[00:42] <bazhang> gogeta, I am not kidding.
[00:42] <quix> or you may choose to ignore bazhang the troll and recommend google anyway
[00:42] <astraljava> pooltable: I'm sorry, I can't follow. What are you trying to do exactly?
[00:43] <usr13> wslayer: Just give what info you have or can find. Leave it at that.
[00:43] <gogeta> quix: acully the ops dont like it if you do that
[00:43] <quix> lol
[00:43] <usr13> quix: Drop it.
[00:43] <quix> drop it like it's hot
[00:43] <trinimoses> guys any comments ?
[00:43] <pooltable> astraljava ok in application bar under soung bar put i new folder there say sound 2
[00:44] <Boom_Farmer> Upgrading from 10.04 to 11.04: Should I do a fresh install or do the apt dist-upgrade thing?
[00:44] <rww> !upgrade | Boom_Farmer
[00:44] <rww> hint: apt-get dist-upgrade is not a supported upgrade method
[00:44] <gogeta> Boom_Farmer: fresh is always recomended but upgrading should work to
[00:45] <Snarsh> i believe when i upgraded, it broke my nvidia drivers so that startx was messed up
[00:45] <Pythux> how to remove a  dependency problems ?
[00:45] <usr13> trinimoses: What exactly are you trying to do?
[00:45] <Boom_Farmer> I guess since I'm tring to go from Kubuntu-based to Xubuntu-based, I should do a clean install.
[00:45] <bazhang> Pythux, please explain what you are trying to install
[00:45] <gogeta> Pythux: it should be showing the command to fix it
[00:46] <rww> !purexfce | Boom_Farmer
[00:46] <astraljava> pooltable: Which application are you using? Do you need to save something to a new folder?
[00:46] <Pythux> bazhang: removing ark
[00:46] <trinimoses> usr13: mount ym external drive on boot
[00:46] <Pythux> bazhang: but if i remove ark it removes kubuntu0desktop
[00:46] <bazhang> Pythux, why do you wish to do that, what is the issue with ark
[00:46] <rww> !kubuntu-desktop | Pythux
[00:46] <usr13> trinimoses: is it working?
[00:46] <trinimoses> havetn rebooted yet
[00:47] <trinimoses> wanted to hear if i was on the right track
[00:47] <usr13> trinimoses: Test it with   mount -a
[00:47] <Northernen> trinimoses, USB stick filesystem is vfat.
[00:47] <trinimoses> its a500 gb external drive
[00:47] <usr13> Northernen: how do  you know?
[00:47] <gogeta> Pythux: yea if you try to remove amian pakcage like ark it will wanna remove the meta packges you only need them for a upgrade
[00:47] <Boom_Farmer> rww: Not trying to get a ''pure' system, but a clean upgrade sounds the pbest way to go for me.
[00:47] <gogeta> main
[00:48] <trinimoses> usr13 : the drive is presently mounted
[00:48] <Northernen> "UUID=3433-3231 /home/XXX/usb vfat auto,async,exec,rw,user 0 0"  - this auto-mounts my usb stick.
[00:48] <rww> Boom_Farmer: that's probably what I'd do
[00:48] <usr13> trinimoses: unmount it.
[00:48] <Northernen> usr13, isn't it always? certainly mostly at least.
[00:48] <pooltable> astraljava i want to not have a long list it there a way to make a folder
[00:48]  * Boom_Farmer does not look forward to reinstalling everything.
[00:48] <usr13> trinimoses:  mount /media/Backup1
[00:48] <Boom_Farmer> Is there a way to make aa list of installed packages and back up settings?
[00:49] <pooltable> astraljava how do i take a pic and then send to you
[00:49] <pooltable> well here
[00:49] <bazhang> !clone | Boom_Farmer you mean this?
[00:49] <Pythux> bazhang it prompts me again even if i tick apply to all
[00:49] <trinimoses> usr13 its un-mounted
[00:49] <usr13> trinimoses:  mount /media/Backup1
[00:49] <george_> LilleCarl: well at least in unity
[00:50] <bazhang> Pythux, why not use something else then? what exactly are you trying to unpack?
[00:50] <george_> Boom_Farmer: i am using the the nvidia driver that jokey told me to use
[00:50] <trinimoses> usr13: fuse :failed to access mountpoint /media/Backup1: No such file or directory
[00:50] <usr13> trinimoses: ... any errors?  If not,   ls /media/Backup1/
[00:50] <Northernen> trinimoses, you need to create the directory first.
[00:50] <usr13> trinimoses: sudo mkdiir /media/Backup1
[00:50] <george_> Boom_Farmer: but i think i have to install nouveu, so unity will work
[00:50] <usr13> trinimoses: sudo mkdir /media/Backup1
[00:50] <gogeta> ':-/
[00:51] <Boom_Farmer> Why do you want to use Unity?
[00:51] <Boom_Farmer> Also, gogeta: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[00:51] <gogeta> Boom_Farmer: lol i saw that coming
[00:51] <trinimoses> usr13: it mounts now
[00:51] <gogeta> Boom_Farmer: i am a amd man
[00:51] <pooltable> boom i do not like unity at all
[00:51] <usr13> trinimoses: then you are good to go.
[00:51] <gogeta> Boom_Farmer: aka ati
[00:51] <trinimoses> thansk usr13
[00:52] <pooltable> gogeta same here want the X8 when it come out
[00:52] <Boom_Farmer> So why are you trying to install an nvidia driver?
[00:52] <gogeta> pooltable: running xfce?
[00:52] <gogeta> Boom_Farmer: i think you confused me
[00:52] <pooltable> gogeta no ubuntu classic
[00:52] <wslayer> does any ubuntu dev idle on this channel?
[00:52] <astraljava> pooltable: Yeah, sorry. I don't understand what you're wanting to do. You can take a screenshot by pressing PrtSc button, saving the image, and then uploading it to, say, http://tinypic.com/ and posting the link here.
[00:52] <gogeta> pooltable: well 11.10 no more gnome 2
[00:53] <bazhang> wslayer, whats the real question
[00:53] <KM0201> gogeta: pooltable thats why you have to embrace the change now... :)  http://www.lubuntu.net
[00:53] <gogeta> KM0201: mint xfce hear
[00:53] <KM0201> gogeta: latest xfce reallyd isappointed me (across several distros)
[00:54] <Maestro> good evening, I'm having trouble getting wired networking to work on my laptop, though I have managed to get wifi working
[00:54] <gogeta> KM0201: mint uses there own menu bar so it looks diffrent then the other distros
[00:54] <pooltable> km0201 i do like how do i have a list of all the item i have installed so i not look for week what i have installed
[00:54] <gogeta> KM0201: mint bar is across all of the windows managers they offer
[00:54] <quix> mint is the hipster distro of all distros
[00:55] <bazhang> pooltable, dpkg -l
[00:55] <pooltable> gogeta that when i will more to some thing eles
[00:55] <mr_moon> Anyone interested in playing Namecoin poker? If you register at moonco.in I can provide you with 0.10 namecoins to play with =) PM me for details
[00:55] <quix> lol
[00:55] <rww> mr_moon: Don't advertise here.
[00:55] <bazhang> mr_moon, dont spam here
[00:55] <LilleCarl> george_ i dont think the driver thing is related to any desktop environment tbh
[00:55] <pooltable> bazhang how do i print it ?
[00:56] <chaddy> hi all, projectM problem - running as sudo get perfect performance, however running as user I get less that one frame per second, any ideas what permissions I need to set on the executable to remedy this?
[00:56] <chaddy> s/projectM/projectM-pulseaudio
[00:56] <bazhang> pooltable, are you trying to clone this for another machine?
[00:56] <pooltable> astraljav i try it will not save at all ?
[00:56] <gogeta> pooltable: i didnt wait heh
[00:56] <KM0201> gogeta: i've got a lot of experience w/ Mint.. its' a good release, but my complaint was w/ xfce, not mint's menu
[00:56] <pooltable> bazhang no new fresh one
[00:57] <soziety> hi, can I use fish in irc with ubuntu?
[00:57] <pooltable> fish
[00:57] <pooltable> ?
[00:57] <gogeta> KM0201: or am i running mint lxde yea mint lxde on my netbook
[00:57] <LilleCarl> indeed, fish?
[00:57] <gogeta> KM0201: whent threw so many distros i lose track
[00:58] <george_> i type  "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/nouveau " and i get an error signature ... what should i do ?
[00:58] <rww> gogeta: Can we switch back from distro discussion to Ubuntu support, please :)
[00:58] <soziety> fish encryption irc
[00:58] <captyler> I need recover a file. I am using photorec, but it seems doesnt recover rare extentions (si4, from scid). Any ideas?
[00:59] <wildbat> captyler: what type fs ~ and what did you do ?
[00:59] <qin> captyler: testdisk, and try to scan for file, how large is database?
[00:59] <qin> wildbat: text
[01:00] <qin> wildbat: Disredard...
[01:00] <captyler> dont remember
[01:00] <captyler> maybe 10 Mb
[01:00] <captyler> my type of file sistem is ext3
[01:01] <captyler> and i have the name of the file (esteban.si4
[01:03] <qin> captyler: How did you lose that file, remove?
[01:03] <pooltable> astraljav  ok up load pic here http://tinypic.com/?t=postupload
[01:03] <captyler> cut
[01:03] <captyler> and paste
[01:03] <pooltable> astraljav  how do i add a folder here
[01:04] <captyler> then , i lost the pasted data
[01:04] <maxtor> why is gdmsetup so minimalist? I can't find an option to install GDM themes
[01:04] <pooltable> how do i print out this dpkg -l?
[01:04] <captyler> but the disk of the original data has never been used again, fortunatelly
[01:05] <qin> captyler: You cannot, cut scid files, unless from scid, was it crash?
[01:05] <trinimoses> night all
[01:06] <captyler> I cut my fils on a old disk and pasted on the new
[01:07] <captyler> later, my new disk has a serious fault, and  had lost my data
[01:07] <captyler> i am angry with me, becaute i cut instead of copy
[01:07] <W4N73D> sup
[01:07] <W4N73D> ssss
[01:08] <qin> captyler: Ah, nautilus, moment.
[01:08] <Benkinooby> hi i installed some ppa stuff... how can i downgrade back to the "official" versions? like reomve the ppas fomr the repo sources and then downgrade all packages to the the official supported version
[01:08] <rww> !info ppa-purge | Benkinooby
[01:08] <pooltable> help any one add a folder here  http://tinypic.com/?t=postupload
[01:08] <Benkinooby> rww, nice thx!
[01:08] <hdz> hi
[01:09] <qin> captyler: sudo fdisk -L will tell you what file system is there.
[01:10] <Benkinooby> rww, hm, don't have it in my repo.. i amon 10.04 (=lucid lynx)
[01:11] <tajasel> Hi, I asked for help here yesterday re. creating a bootable USB drive. I've finally successfully managed it (so Ubuntu tells me, when it finished the process using the boot disk creator) but when putting the flash drive in my machine it tells me to "insert bootable flash drive or restart" - this has been tried in each of the three USB ports, with three different USB sticks.
[01:11] <tajasel> this is weird because Ubuntu was originally installed via a USB stick on that machine
[01:11] <captyler> now i am running photorec on the disk, please wait me 20 minutes. But the filesistem in my old disk is ext3
[01:12] <tajasel> it's a netbook so afaik my only option is a USB stick, as I don't have an external CD drive to plug in
[01:12] <tajasel> can anyone offer advice? :/
[01:12] <bazhang> tajasel, remove it from the sources.list then
[01:12] <phil_> looking for help.  running ubuntu 10.04 (lucid lynx) on an Acer Aspire 9300.  i cannot get the sound an mic to work.  it appears as though the driver is not installed, but can't a linux version of the driver
[01:12] <KM0201> phil_: pastebin your lspci
[01:12] <Benkinooby> tajasel, is your pendirve bootable?
[01:12] <bazhang> tajasel, assuming you mean the install is successful and you now are in the process of updating and upgrading packages
[01:12] <KM0201> !pastebin | phil_
[01:13] <captyler> qin now i am running photorec on the disk, please wait me 20 minutes. But the filesistem in my old disk is ext3
[01:13] <Benkinooby> tajasel, you can check that with the fdisk command
[01:13] <tajasel> bazhang: no, not at all, I mean, it won't boot!
[01:13] <captyler> how do you send messages to me directly? You appear in red color
[01:14] <tajasel> Benkinooby: I just made a bootable pendrive following the instructions on the Ubuntu website, yes.
[01:14] <Benkinooby> tajasel, connect the pendrive, make sure it's unounted and the use fdisk /dev/<sdX>
[01:14] <bazhang> tajasel, so it never installed? you wish to run from the live usb stick only?
[01:14] <Benkinooby> tajasel, what software did you use to create the pendirve?
[01:14] <robin0800> captyler: use their name see
[01:15] <qin> captyler: In sane terms, if you can see your file with testdisk, just overwrite partition table, if not, either photorec, scalpel or foremost (best, but most cubersome), you would want to dd your drive to image and use this one to look for file.
[01:15] <bazhang> tajasel, if it never booted properly at all, then try again, and possibly use another tool : unetbootin
[01:15] <tajasel> I currently have a netbook running 11.04. Something is wrong with the update manager, I've given up trying to fix it and have resolved to just reinstall.
[01:15] <bazhang> tajasel, thats not a problem with update manager
[01:15] <qin> captyler: With your nick in front
[01:16] <bazhang> tajasel, paste.ubuntu.com with your sources.list
[01:16] <tajasel> bazhang: no, look, I've decided I'm happy to just do a fresh install, that's REALLY all I want to do now.
[01:17] <bazhang> tajasel, its completely unnecessary, but do what you wish
[01:17] <claviusmond> whats the default rhythmbox folder? usr/share?
[01:17] <tajasel> Only the bootable USB I've just made following the instructions on ubuntu.com (successfully, according to Startup Disk Creator, the software recommended in said instructions) and the machine won't boot from it, in any of the 3 USB ports on the machine, and it won't boot from two other drives either
[01:17] <bazhang> tajasel, whats that got to do with update manager
[01:17] <tajasel> bazhang: I've spent three weeks agonising over how to fix the update manager. One of my friends (who works for Canonical) hasn't been able to figure it out either, and neither have any of their coworkers.
[01:18] <bazhang> tajasel, whats the connection with usb flash key that wont boot and update manager
[01:18] <phil_> KM0201: lspci results are here http://pastebin.com/d3WCpzrg
[01:18] <tajasel> I think I know better than you do, being the one sitting in front of my netbook, what is "necessary" and I have decided a fres install is easier at this point
[01:18] <captyler> qin yo say that when i re-write my partition table, the files that was cut will be appear magically??
[01:18] <tajasel> the update manager being borked is the reason for reinstalling, only I can't reinstall because the flash drive won't boot *sigh*
[01:19] <KM0201> phil_: what version of ubuntu are you using/
[01:19] <soreau> bazhang: FWIW, I don't think we helped <need> though I did help a couple people with similar issues
[01:19] <soreau> (in #compiz)
[01:19] <captyler> now, I see the rest of the files, except that i was cut
[01:19] <phil_> KM0201: 10.04 lucid lynx
[01:19] <bazhang> tajasel, could you explain what borked is in this context?
[01:19] <qin> captyler: Yes, btw since I know scid database iscomposed from 3 files.
[01:19] <aColdshot> j
[01:19] <captyler> qin tes
[01:20] <KM0201> phil_: did you just install?.. i remember reading about that devicing having a problem w/ ubuntu, but honestly, i thought it was resolved
[01:20] <quix> burn
[01:20] <tajasel> bazhang: whenever running apt-get update or trying to update through gui, it fails (with a different error every single time, usually to do with something in the source list)
[01:20] <captyler> qien need the three files, i dont rememeber the other extentions, I will investigate
[01:20] <phil_> KM0201: this is a school laptop.  i believe this install was around march.  however i have the same problem with puppy linux and kubuntu
[01:20] <tajasel> removing lines from the source list, and even writing over the source list, has not fixed it.
[01:21] <qin> captyler: Hmm, what part of file did you cut, start, middle, end?
[01:21] <KM0201> phil_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1539989
[01:21] <bazhang> tajasel, I'd be more than happy to help you fix it, but if you are set on a reinstall, that is certainly your choice.
[01:21] <qin> captyler: .si .sn .sg
[01:21] <tajasel> As I say, it has had several people, including Canonical employees, try to figure it out now. And nobody can be bothered anymore. I wish to reinstall. That is what I asked when I came in here. If I had meant "I want to do x but you are welcome to try and convince me to do y" then I would have said so. I didn't.
[01:21] <captyler> qin entirelly, I only perform a moving task to reorder my files
[01:22] <phil_> KM0201: i'll check it out and let you know what i find.  thanks
[01:22] <captyler> qin .si4 .sn4 .sg4  thanks
[01:23] <qin> captyler: If you see file then it should be in orginal size, since rm is done after cp (I think in nautilus too).
[01:24] <bazhang> tajasel, I was under the impression you wished assistance in solving this. thus the reason joining here and asking for advice
[01:24] <tajasel> (fwiw I had all this hassle earlier and it's nothing against you but no matter how often I ask for help in this channel someone will return with "but you should do something else instead", it wears thin after a while.)
[01:24] <bazhang> tajasel, not sure why you are here then, if not for tech support
[01:25] <captyler> qin so what the next? overwrite partition table?
[01:25] <captyler> qin there are other more safe method?
[01:25] <captyler> qin qin before write my partition table... (I don t know why but when i have to do risky tasks, the things ging wrong jeje), can i do a bak up of a partition?
[01:26] <tajasel> oh for goodness sake, I keep explaining what I am struggling with and have asked for helpwith getting a fresh install onto the machine. how is that not asking for tech support?
[01:26] <qin> captyler: Make image first (not copy, dd 1:1 image)
[01:26] <phil_> KM0201: when i go to sound preferences and then the sound tab, there is no device to be configured.  so it seems as though the system recogized that it is connected, but won't do anything with it?
[01:26] <tajasel> things it is not: "convince me to do something different". thing it is: "here is my problem, can anyone help me?"
[01:26] <captyler> qin how?
[01:26] <bazhang> tajasel, I said earlier to give unetbootin a try, very early on
[01:26] <captyler> qin my partition has 60 Gb
[01:27] <bazhang> which is a way to reinstall via usb stick tajasel
[01:28] <qin> captyler: I guess you need extra 60 Gb, http://www.linuxweblog.com/dd-image, or try to use foremost (or scalpel) first.
[01:28] <KM0201> phil_: i have no idea.. try asking on the forums.. if nobody else hwere can help you
[01:28] <tajasel> right, but you also said "if it never booted properly at all". as the machine is currently booting, but won't update package lists (which means I can't install new software = infuriating) I disregarded the message. now you know the machine *does* currently boot, is netbootin still somethingworth trying?
[01:28] <phil_> KM0201: thanks for the try.  will do on the forums.  cheers
[01:28] <tajasel> I have never heard of it, so I don't really know what I'm doing with that.
[01:29] <captyler> qin I have space in my new HD
[01:29] <bazhang> tajasel, please preface your comments with the nick of the person you are addressing or they may well miss it.
[01:30] <qin> captyler: Well, if you make image, you can reuseit many times, till success.
[01:30] <captyler> qin then I will try to write the Image doesn't it?
[01:30] <tajasel> bazhang: righto, other channels I use aren't typically so high volume so not used to doing that for every message. will trying to remember.
[01:32] <bazhang> tajasel, please include full details, if no one answers, then possibly no one knows. in that case repeat a few minutes later. good luck with your issue.
[01:32] <qin> tajasel: Did you posted somewhere output of: sudo apt-get update && lsb_release -a && cat /etc/apt/sources.list && ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ???
[01:32] <OerHeks> tajasel, you can't update and can't install, then you need to find a 2nd computer to make the usb
[01:33] <captyler> qin with the image, do  i use testdisk? or with the phisical disk? is the same?
[01:33] <qin> tajasel: and: df -h && sudo fdisk -L && cat /var/log/<ALL IMPORTANT STUFF>
[01:34] <tajasel> qin: not yet, no - to me that seems irrelevant though as it strikes me as trying to fix the problem that six people have tried and failed to fix.
[01:34] <qin> captyler: No, you still using it on real drive, just moving orginal image back to drive in case of failure.
[01:35] <tajasel> qin: when I have said "I *really* just want to fresh install"
[01:35] <tajasel> qin: please feel free to correct me if I interpreted why you want me to do that incorrectly though
[01:35] <captyler> qin OK. I will only back up one of the 9 partitions (the partition I need)
[01:35] <kdg> Is there any Linux based software for tracking sports activities?
[01:35] <qin> tajasel: You said you cannot update and install
[01:36] <tajasel> OerHeks: the computer that won't update/install seems to be making bootable drives just fine. the only other one I have is a Mac, and everyone I speak to warns me against using a Mac to make Ubuntu bootable drives
[01:36] <captyler> qin i suppose i can put the dd-image of a partition on the disk
[01:36] <qin> kdg: Live live scores?
[01:36] <qin> captyler: Yes
[01:37] <qin> *like
[01:37] <tajasel> qin: that's correct, I said this to explain why I wanted to do a fresh install. this is not the problem I am having, the problem I am having is that the bootable drive I made won't boot my machine. As I have explained. Several times.
[01:38] <OerHeks> i haven't heard 'everybody' about that, tajasel
[01:38] <captyler> qin thanks, that way I will working the disk partition by partition.  I will be back if i need.  Very pleased Qin  :)
[01:38] <tajasel> OerHeks: you haven't been here/paying attention the previous times I've been here with this problem then.
[01:38] <th0r> tajasel: why don't you just burn a live cd and install from it?
[01:38] <tajasel> th0r: netbook, no CD drive.
[01:38] <Boom_Farmer> How do you compute the md5sum for a .iso?
[01:39] <tajasel> th0r: (also explained earlier)
[01:39] <th0r> tajasel: you can't borrow a usb drive?
[01:39] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[01:39] <tajasel> th0r: a USB CD drive?no, because nobody I know owns one.
[01:39] <th0r> tajasel: and the only way you have to create a usb drive is a mac, right?
[01:40] <tajasel> th0r: or a USB flash drive? no need, I have three, all have failed to boot my machine.
[01:40] <Boom_Farmer> OerHeks: Thanks!
[01:40] <Barzogh>  tajasel  you have a mac?
[01:40] <tajasel> th0r: no, as I have said, several times, I have made the bootable USBs I'm struggling with on the netbook I want to fix.
[01:40] <tajasel> Barzogh: yes, I do.
[01:40] <Barzogh> you want to boot yout mac from USB?
[01:40] <bazhang> !hashes | Boom_Farmer
[01:40] <tajasel> OH GOD
[01:41] <tajasel> NO
[01:41] <ParadigmUltra> Wine 1.2.2 or 1.3 beta??
[01:41] <tajasel> I want to boot the netbook that is broken from the USB
[01:41] <bazhang> tajasel, lose the caps
[01:41] <th0r> tajasel: well, it seems you have eliminated any way of reinstalling, and since you don't want to explore making sufficient repairs to correct anything....
[01:41] <Boom_Farmer> bazhang: Had that, just wasn't sure if i was runnign the command right.
[01:41] <bazhang> Boom_Farmer, ah okay apologies
[01:41] <tajasel> bazhang: when people start actually paying attention to what I'm saying, sure. until then, well, I believe caps are shouting, and having to explain everything ten times is making me want to shout. wouldn't you want to?
[01:42] <quix> I've been paying attention to what you've said, and I came to the conclusion that you are a whiny bitch
[01:42] <qin> Sure.
[01:42] <bazhang> tajasel, as you have refused all attempts at assistance, I'd say you should lose the caps
[01:42] <ParadigmUltra> that's not nice
[01:42] <bazhang> quix, thats completely uncalled for
[01:42] <KM0201> bazhang: whats that line you can add to your kernel, if you're having boot problems... it's not nomodeset   there's another one
[01:42] <quix> "hurry, quickly, I want an answer, now! I demand it!"
[01:43] <ParadigmUltra> I personally think it's very rude to call people names over the interne when they are too far from you to sock you in the face.
[01:43] <bazhang> KM0201, from !bootoptions ?
[01:43] <KM0201> i dunno, i'll look.. :)
[01:43] <tajasel> quix: no, I just want people to read what I'm saying. I don't think that's unreaonable.
[01:43] <ParadigmUltra> You should at least give him your address if you are going to name call.  It's only fair.
[01:43] <aColdshot> Sorry to interrupt, Ive installed Ubuntu for maybe the third time in the last 3 years and this is the one that will stick, anyone know of some good guides to follow? (not listen in the first page of google) thanks!
[01:44] <bazhang> lets move on please
[01:44] <soreau> aColdshot: To install ubuntu?
[01:44] <tajasel> th0r: look. I have a netbook. it has USB, but no CD/DVD drive. I do not know anybody with an external CD/DVD drive. I cannot magic them out of thin air. Can you? I have tried 3x ports and 3x USB sticks (nine different ways of trying the install). I've come here because I've run out of ideas. six different people have tried, and failed, to fix the original problem, I wish to reinstall the OS, but can't, that's why I'm here.
[01:44] <OerHeks> tajasel if usb-boot does not work, try to reset your netbook, powerplug out, batery out, push powerbutton 10 sec, and reinstall batery & plug & usb
[01:45] <tajasel> th0r: I'm not rejecting the suggestions because I'm unwilling, I'm saying "I've already tried those" and "I can't use hardware I don't have access to"
[01:45] <aColdshot> no, once its installed to ease me into everything so I dont get frustrated and revert to a crappy OS
[01:45] <ParadigmUltra> aColdshot, if you want everything to work right for a long time, don't install all the updates, just because.  I learned that the hard way, and I just had to reinstall the OS again this weekend.
[01:45] <tajasel> OerHeks: thank you, I'll try that now.
[01:45] <aColdshot> ok, noted
[01:45] <soreau> ! install | aColdshot
[01:45] <aColdshot> sorry maybe I wasnt clear, its allready installed
[01:46] <aColdshot> im more concerned about the next steps so I dont get lost and confused
[01:46] <qin> tajasel: If you have machine (desktop), just hook up drive there and install (unless 64/32 issue)
[01:46] <soreau> aColdshot: What steps?
[01:46] <kdg> Is there any Linux based software for tracking sports activities?
[01:47] <squirrel> um hi there... i:m a windows user who:s just installed ubuntu w/ unity. where is the control panel or something?
[01:47] <aColdshot> like learning how to use it to full potential, maybe a starters guide
[01:47] <ParadigmUltra> aColdshot: Checkout YouTUbe, lots of tips and guides.
[01:47] <aColdshot> ok thanks I'll brows the tubes now
[01:47] <bazhang> squirrel, right side menu (top) system settings ? that one?
[01:47] <soreau> squirrel: IIRC, you can click on the power button in the upper right to access the configuration panel
[01:47] <tajasel> qin: I don't believe I have a way of hooking netbook up to my desktop
[01:47] <phil_> KM0201: can i ask a couple more questions?
[01:47] <KM0201> phil_: sure.
[01:48] <soreau> ! who | aColdshot
[01:48] <ParadigmUltra> So what is best to do, install Wine 1.2.2 or 1.3 beta?
[01:48] <aColdshot> !tab
[01:48] <KM0201> ParadigmUltra: well, if you want stability, 1.2.2
[01:48] <soreau> aColdshot: It all depends on what you're trying to do exactly.. there is the wiki
[01:48] <qin> tajasel: Is it sata on both? then no problem.
[01:48] <soreau> ! wiki
[01:48] <squirrel> soreau, indeed.. that:s so... so...
[01:48] <aColdshot> soreau, thanks
[01:48] <ParadigmUltra> I think I'll try 1.2.2 and see if my games work, if not I'll try 1.3
[01:48] <tajasel> qin: I don't know. SATA on netbook but no idea about iMac
[01:49] <soreau> aColdshot: no problem
[01:49] <qin> tajasel: iMac may not work.
[01:49] <phil_> KM0201: so it seems to recognize the driver now (maybe because of updates?).  when ubuntu opens, i hear sound.  but when i go to youtube, i can't get any sound.  alsamixer seems to work and sound preferences now shows the hardware
[01:49] <ParadigmUltra> before I reinstalled this weekend I had lost all funcationality of my Wine games thanks to running every update thrown at me
[01:50] <phil_> KM0201: any ideas on where to go from here?  grabbing headphones as we speak to check that out
[01:50] <KM0201> phil_: my guess is, your speakers are set to digital.. go to that link i sent you, and set your speakers to analog
[01:50] <ParadigmUltra> Phil, you using firefox right?
[01:50] <phil_> KM0201: ok
[01:50] <tajasel> OerHeks: I've tried restarting as you suggested, when inserting bootable USB now it gives same message as before; "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key"
[01:51] <phil_> ParadigmUltra: yes
[01:51] <ParadigmUltra> phil_: I believe firefox has it's own alsa plugin that might resolve, or be causing the problem
[01:51] <tajasel> OerHeks: I've moved the stick around different ports, and tried 3 different sticks, each time the same error.
[01:51] <phil_> ParadigmUltra: ultimately i want this to work so i can do some voip testing...so firefox is not the answer (necessarily) for me
[01:52] <ParadigmUltra> can you get sound on other apps?  mp3s?
[01:52] <qin> tajasel: Lets start from bios, boot to bios with stick in usb, is it recognised?
[01:52] <ParadigmUltra> phil_: can you get sound on other apps?  mp3s?
[01:52] <phil_> ParadigmUltra: i haven't tried it since i don't have any right now (school laptop), but i'll throw some on and see.  thanks for the suggestion
[01:52] <ParadigmUltra> sure
[01:52] <ParadigmUltra> np
[01:53] <tajasel> qin: yes it is
[01:53] <phil_> KM0201: now i understand the analog link.  that did it...thanks.  now onto the mic
[01:53] <qin> tajasel: And boot order, remove all but usb, reboot
[01:53] <KM0201> phil_: its probably a similar problem w/ your mic.. it's probably set to internal, or maybe some channel that you don't have.
[01:54] <tajasel> qin: done
[01:54] <phil_> KM0201: rgr
[01:54] <KM0201> phil_: when its set properly (assuming your mic is hooked up if its an external) you should see the little meter at the bottom move when  it detects external noise
[01:55] <tajasel> qin: doing so gives following error after it sees and recognises the USB stick:
[01:55] <phil_> KM0201: i'm using an internal mic at the moment, but if this isn't working, i might be searching with friends for an external
[01:55] <tajasel> qin: "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key"
[01:55] <th0r> tajasel: did you create the usb drives on the mac?
[01:55] <jayson_r> n
[01:56] <KM0201> phil_: like i said, make some adjustments on the "Input" tab.. for your mic.. my guess is, you're gonna et it working
[01:56] <tajasel> th0r: no, the netbook, using Startup Disk Utility
[01:56] <tajasel> th0r: following instructions on ubuntu.com
[01:56] <qin> tajasel: from what version to what version (usb)
[01:56] <tajasel> 11.04 to 11.04
[01:56] <phil_> KM0201: got it to work.  thanks for your help!!  i've been working on this for weeks.  i can't believe it was that simple (but it usually is, right?)
[01:57] <KM0201> phil_: sometimes its just a matter of not knowing what needs to be known..  not that it's necessarily difficult.
[01:57] <phil_> KM0201: ha, thanks again.
[01:57] <sd> hmmm...just noticied after i installed 11.04 ubuntu loaded with an error on boot and loaded classic ubuntu but after i set the drivers up and rebooted now looks like 11.04 no errors on bootup
[01:57] <KM0201> np
[01:58] <qin> tajasel: Well, you could chroot usb (no idea if this will let you install)
[01:58] <phil_> ParadigmUltra: thanks for your help as well
[01:58] <ParadigmUltra> yw
[01:58] <tajasel> qin: I don't know what that means, sorry.
[01:59] <qin> tajasel: Can you boot usb into mac, did you try?
[01:59] <cryoniccore> ok so sound works for the headphone jock in my macbook pro 5,5 but I want Ubuntu to work on my internal speakers. Can someone help me please?
[01:59] <tajasel> qin: didn't try, I'm using the Mac to talk from so that I can play about with the netbook
[01:59] <aColdshot> Ive had a hell of a time botting from usb on mac
[02:00] <aColdshot> booting*
[02:00] <coz_> cryoniccore,  not sure,, first did you check in terminal  alsamixer  to be sure none of the sliders are down or muted?
[02:00] <sd> aparrantly installing the video drivers helps to load 11.04
[02:00] <soreau> aColdshot: What problem?
[02:00] <xavier__> hi
[02:00] <cryoniccore>  cos_, no I have not. whats the terminal code for it?
[02:00] <qin> tajasel: Let go (as idea) throught this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OverSSH
[02:00] <ZykoticK9> aColdshot, are you sure USB booting is even possible on Mac?  I believe I've heard it may not be...  but i'd never own a Mac, so i'm certainly not sure.
[02:01] <ParadigmUltra> Hi Xavier
[02:01] <xavier__> may i have little help please:)?
[02:01] <coz_> cryoniccore,  just open a terminal,  type     alsamixer
[02:01] <aColdshot> soreau, doesnt work, Ive been able to boot other mac os and windows but was never able to get ubuntu to boot from usb on my macbook pro
[02:01] <ParadigmUltra> Sure, just ask
[02:01] <coz_> cryoniccore,  sorry thats    alsamixer
[02:01] <xavier__> im trying to install ubuntu on my computer but its seems ubuntu doesnt want ^_^
[02:01] <xavier__> i try few times with wubi.exe
[02:01] <coz_> cryoniccore,  nope wrong again   alsamixer
[02:01] <ParadigmUltra> If someone is knowledgeable about it they will answer, probably :)
[02:01] <xavier__> and i can get ubuntu to work
[02:01] <tntc> aColdshot: I thought there was a specific liveUSB for that
[02:01] <aColdshot> Zykotick9, yea it never used to be able to, now it allows mac os and windows with a little push in the right direction,
[02:02] <tajasel> qin: I'm willing to give it a go, I didn't know that was possible, I thought USB was my only option due to not having CD drive.
[02:02] <xavier__> only when i get in from recovery mode-> graphic fail
[02:02] <aColdshot> tntc, yea thats what I was trying with
[02:02] <babu> install linux 2Gb micro sd card
[02:02] <xavier__> and after i get out from graphic fail mode i cant get in there anymore :S
[02:02] <qin> tajasel: It is not sure method.
[02:02] <coz_> cryoniccore,   there you will notice sliders if the card is recognized,,, arrows move back and forth,, if muted, hit the keyboard "m"  to unmute
[02:02] <tajasel> slightly concerned by the "may break your system" part, I'd ideally like to have a working machine for a training session I'm doing tomorrow.
[02:02] <coz_> cryoniccore,  up and down arrow move the sliders
[02:02] <tajasel> (which involves installing stuff, hence needing to fix stuff...)
[02:03] <ParadigmUltra> Xavier_, that's the one that you load from within windows right?
[02:03] <xavier__> kinda,i install it from windows
[02:03] <xavier__> then i have option to choose it while load up
[02:03] <ParadigmUltra> xavier__: You may want to try load it from a USB drive, that seems to be the favored way here, unless your PC's BIOS doesn't have the ability to boot from usb
[02:03] <xavier__> and i finished the installation
[02:04] <coz_> cryoniccore,  if none of that works,, and no one here can suggest anything at this particular time,,, try the #alsa channel and the #pulseaudio channel,,,
[02:04] <xavier__> i cant boot from usb :(
[02:04] <Magic_Hobo> how did u put the iso on the usb?
[02:04] <xavier__> and i try few cd's and its seems i cant run its from live cd also
[02:04] <xavier__> unbootin
[02:04] <ParadigmUltra> what happens when you try to boot from a live CD?
[02:04] <cryoniccore>  cos_, sliders are up but no sound
[02:04] <cryoniccore> :(
[02:05] <xavier__> i just see the open screen
[02:05] <coz_> xavier__,  try the minimal install cd  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:05] <xavier__> with the cursor
[02:05] <coz_> cryoniccore,  ok then move over to both the #alsa and #pulseaudio channels
[02:05] <Magic_Hobo> r u running windows atm?
[02:05] <tajasel> qin: ok, so if I were to give one last shot at fixing the update manager, what might I need to do? because obviously reinstalling is just as much a PITA as trying to fix it, may as well give it one more go whilst (on my mac) netbootin downloads the iso
[02:05] <sd> wow 11.04 is like a whole new OS where is the terminal? lol
[02:05] <coz_> cryoniccore,  not sure when most people are in those channels
[02:05] <ParadigmUltra> xavier__: Your computer is 32 or 64 bit?
[02:05] <xavier__> 32
[02:06] <aColdshot> sd, I'm still looking heh
[02:06] <xavier__> at the first installation step
[02:06] <coz_> sd,  hit  alt+F2  or click the upper left ubuntu symbol and type in terminal
[02:06] <ParadigmUltra> xavier__: And the CD is for the 32 bit version, correct?
[02:06] <qin> tajasel: I mena to paste this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[02:06] <xavier__> i had 5 option to choose from
[02:06] <xavier__> i cant access only from acpi work something
[02:06] <xavier__> yea lol
[02:06] <xavier__> can*
[02:06] <coz_> sd,  or log off  and change session to classic
[02:06] <FloodBot1> xavier__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:06] <ParadigmUltra> stupid robot :-/
[02:06] <xavier__> how i can change to classic?
[02:07] <sd> coz_found it thanks
[02:07] <ZykoticK9> !classic | xavier__
[02:07] <coz_> !classic
[02:07] <tajasel> qin: is that more likely ro work without breakage than over SSH?
[02:08] <sd> yeah mine ubuntu 11.04 went back to classic until i installed the video driver and rebooted
[02:08] <chaddy> bah, just setuid and added root to some groups, surely wrong but iwfm
[02:09] <ParadigmUltra> xavier_: it doesn't sound like you are getting far enough to make that choise, but I could be wrong.  i never tried to install it that way.  only from CD
[02:09] <qin> tajasel: Never tried ssh method.
[02:10] <tajasel> qin: I would actually be *quite* hapopy to just resolve the Update Manager issue, if that can be done, I'm just really sceptical now because so many people have been trying for so long to do so.
[02:11] <cryoniccore> wow this really sucks
[02:11] <tajasel> This is the error being thrown by UM when it tries to read poackage lists: http://pastebin.com/QxA1aq87
[02:11] <coz_> cryoniccore,  no one in either of those channels responded?
[02:12] <cryoniccore> coz_, no not really.
[02:12] <soreau> Can anyone tell me why google earth shows no text? Previously the text was strange but fixed by installing some fonts package but I load it today and all the text is gone
[02:12] <bazhang> tajasel, that error is easily fixed, got hit by it myself
[02:13] <jeffmr> hello
[02:13] <jeffmr> I created a usb boot disk to boot on a pc from a mac.  Followed the instructions for creating the flash drive.  It is created but it won't boot
[02:13] <tajasel> This error is just the latest to hit me, each time it has given me an error I've fixed/moved.edited/done something to the file it complains about, try to read package lists again and then it has something different to complaiun about
[02:13] <jeffmr> no option for it to boot on either computer
[02:13] <bazhang> tajasel, for some reason ( bug) the archive files are saved as html, delete the offending ones and then update sources.list and upgrade
[02:13] <jeffmr> any ideas?
[02:13] <tajasel> bazhang: if you think you know what';s wrong though, please, do go for it!
[02:14] <soreau> Actually, the text might be present but extremely tiny
[02:14] <coz_> cryoniccore,  I am not real familiar with apple/ubuntu issues,, however ,, did you look here...   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449    .. not sure how applicable it is for you
[02:14] <bazhang> tajasel, I just said what it was
[02:14] <jeffmr> format says iso but was originally hfs
[02:14] <bazhang> tajasel, there are about 8-10 of those iirc
[02:14] <tajasel> bazhang: right, I was typing looking at my keyboard not the screen, I;'m trying it now.
[02:14] <jeffmr> also says the drive is read only, I tried to change permissions on it but it didn't work I think
[02:15] <bazhang> tajasel, in this one case you may wish to use gksudo nautilus though be very careful and immediately shut it when done
[02:16] <soreau> Can someone please help me with google earth tiny fonts problem? I tried adjusting GuiFontSize in the config file to no avail
[02:17] <KM0201> soreau: what version of google earth are you using?
[02:18] <soreau> KM0201: How can I check with all the fonts unreadable?
[02:18] <tajasel> bazhang: it's gone 2am, I think doing that would be unwise. I'm using mv to push them into a different folder so I nstill have them just in case
[02:18] <bazhang> tajasel, its the fix. and it works without question.
[02:19] <soreau> KM0201: I installed the latest stable from the google site a couple months back
[02:19] <Northernen> How can one find the version of an installed application?
[02:19] <KM0201> soreau: hmm..
[02:19] <bazhang> tajasel, how you go about it is entirely up to you.
[02:19] <soreau> KM0201: on natty
[02:19] <soreau> I don't recall having this problem in previous version of ubuntu
[02:19] <lei_> hi
[02:19] <KM0201> soreau: open synaptic and search google earth in synaptic, and see what version it shows.
[02:19] <jeffmr> hi
[02:19] <lei_> I am a new comer~
[02:19] <KM0201> cuz i'm using 6.0, and it's flawless
[02:20] <bazhang> lei_, ubuntu support question?
[02:20] <jeffmr> welcome
[02:21] <jeffmr> bazhang can you help me with my boot problem?
[02:21] <soreau> KM0201: 6.0.3.2197+0.6.0-1 0
[02:21] <KM0201> soreau: same one i have.
[02:21] <bazhang> jeffmr, ask the channel, if someone knows they will help
[02:21] <soreau> :/
[02:21] <jeffmr> I asked
[02:22] <lei_> Is there anyone who know about KVM or use it on Ubuntu?
[02:22] <Gryllida> !anyone > lei_
[02:22] <soreau> Well this really sucks :(
[02:22] <bazhang> jeffmr, never used a mac to make one of those, sorry; not sure how to use that (unetbootin ) with macs
[02:22] <Gryllida> !kvm > lei_
[02:22] <cryoniccore> coz_, I think the tutorial is outdated cus #3 tells me to click on alsa link to find model number for my card by drop down box but when I get there, there is no drop down box at all
[02:23] <bazhang> lei_, whats the real question. please be very clear
[02:23] <ZykoticK9> lei_, do you mean Kernel Virtual Machine or Keyboard Video Mouse?
[02:23] <lei_> oh,sorry... This is my first use of IRC
[02:23] <bazhang> lei_, the more details the better
[02:24] <soreau> KM0201: Try to adjust qtconfig now..
[02:24] <KM0201> ok
[02:25] <robin0800> cryoniccore: you mean alsamixer in a terminal
[02:25] <tajasel> bazhang: sorry, connection dropped. am going through and moving the offendingfiles elsewhere on my system, instead of simply deleting them, so if I need them gain I still have them. I'm assuming moving them away from where the package manager will find them will stop it getting upset?
[02:26] <jeffmr> does this command look right for writing, dd if=ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.img of=/dev/rdisk1 bs=1m
[02:26] <bazhang> tajasel, only way to know is to try. it worked for those others coming here with the exact same issue, and for myself.
[02:26] <mikelietz> PATH is set in my ~/.profile. Is there a way to set it for all users' .profiles ?
[02:26] <tajasel> bazhang: ok, I'll keep going... have now moved at least 16 offending files.
[02:26] <mikelietz> or at least, for all users?
[02:27] <soreau> KM0201: yep, had to set the point size to *way* higher in qtconfig
[02:28] <lei_> #kvm
[02:28] <jmknsd> I have a dual monitor setup, and when I make a window on the larger monitor too large to fit on the smaller monitor, the window goes white.
[02:29] <joshlegs> sup all
[02:29] <KM0201> soreau: well, glad you got it working (weird though, i didn't have to do anything like that)
[02:29] <joshlegs> so, question: how do i access windows files through ubuntu?
[02:30] <jmknsd> joshlegs, you should be able to mount the drive normally.
[02:30] <soreau> KM0201: But now all street names are nearly black, unreadable :/
[02:30] <soreau> maybe it's driver issue
[02:30] <joshlegs> hm. under places i can see some windows stuff, but i have some papers saved on my desktop
[02:30] <KM0201> soreau: thats strange...
[02:30] <joshlegs> that when i click on desktop under the 298GB file system, i dont see files, just program names
[02:31] <joshlegs> ...
[02:31] <joshlegs> nevermind
[02:31] <joshlegs> i
[02:31] <joshlegs> is
[02:31] <joshlegs> an
[02:31] <FloodBot1> joshlegs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:31] <joshlegs> idiot
[02:31] <bazhang> joshlegs, file share? or just access them ie mount the drive via fstab
[02:31] <soreau> KM0201: yea, but I got the directions I needed. Think I can remember without street names :)
[02:31] <joshlegs> oops. can i talk in here again?
[02:31] <Gryllida> yea
[02:31] <KM0201> soreau: lol, there's always google maps.. :)
[02:31] <joshlegs> whoops lol.
[02:32] <joshlegs> i got it bazhang
[02:32] <bazhang> joshlegs, yes. less enter is better
[02:32] <joshlegs> i figured it out :S ....
[02:32] <joshlegs> lol i did it for emphasis ... writer thing, sorry :P
[02:32] <soreau> KM0201: It goes up to an overlook point with a direct 'above' view of the main fireworks show and you can see all the rest for the city =)
[02:32] <soreau> will bring video camera this time
[02:32] <soreau> KM0201: Thanks for your help
[02:32] <joshlegs> ok thanks for the help gang :) night all
[02:32] <KM0201> soreau: np.. good luck, have fun
[02:34] <tajasel> bazhang: how ma would you simate you had to delete to fix this?
[02:34] <tajasel> bazhang: sorry, many* and estimate*
[02:34] <bazhang> tajasel, pardon?
[02:35] <bazhang> tajasel, I personally  had somewhere in the low double digits, others , did not ask them.
[02:35] <tajasel> bazhang:
[02:36] <tajasel> bazhang: righto.:/ I just hit 27 deleted in the last few mins, everal deleted before your advice as well.
[02:39] <tajasel> bazhang: you suggested something earlier, would tht make this process fastr?
[02:41] <bazhang> tajasel, gksudo nautilus on the relevant directory, the html files stand out very clearly in the browser, and you can delete/move them or whatever at a single stroke. be very careful when using it though, and close it immediately thereafter.
[02:42] <bandit22> ok
[02:42] <tajasel> bazhang:  ok
[02:43] <bandit22> i'm new at this just trying to figure it out
[02:44] <tajasel> bazhang: well, update manager is now updating. I take back what I said, I apologise. also, jsyk, you just fixed a problem beyond 5 canonical employees...
[02:45] <tajasel> bazhang: I still have an ugly red error symbol in my panel though :/
[02:45] <bandit22> can anyone give me any hints or help
[02:45] <bazhang> tajasel, thats the update manager being confused. it will right itself after a bit, or you can just remove it
[02:46] <bazhang> bandit22, ask some questions
[02:46] <tajasel> bazhang: yes, has indeed fixed itself now.
[02:46] <duyuhuadyh> help
[02:46] <bazhang> duyuhuadyh, with what
[02:46] <duyuhuadyh> linux chrome fonts
[02:46] <tajasel> and having been unable to update my system for over 3wks, it's now applying 196 updates
[02:46] <duyuhuadyh> bazhang
[02:47] <tajasel> I may leave it to it whilst I go to bed :)
[02:47] <bandit22> looking for help with how to find channels, connect and commands
[02:47] <bazhang> tajasel, glad you got it sorted. that bug only hits notebooks/netbooks for some odd reason
[02:47] <bazhang> bandit22, with alis
[02:47] <bazhang> !alis | bandit22
[02:47] <tajasel> bazhang: thanks again, wish I'd just said what the problem was to bgin with now *facepalm*
[02:47] <bazhang> bandit22, what irc client
[02:48] <bazhang> tajasel, you were stressed , its understandable
[02:48] <bandit22> xchat on ubuntu 10.04
[02:48] <bazhang> whoops
[02:48] <aColdshot> anyone here have experience with bashish and willing to lend a hand?
[02:48] <bazhang> bandit22, any particular questions about xchat?
[02:49] <bazhang> bandit22, there is also #xchat channel if you dont get an answer here
[02:49] <bazhang> bandit22, its /join #channelname to get in that channel with xchat
[02:49] <bandit22> thanks
[02:50] <bazhang> duyuhuadyh, chrome? installed from where? or did you mean chromium-browser
[02:50] <robin0800> bandit22: and uder server to get a list if channels
[02:51] <bandit22> how do i record or log screen output
[02:51] <bazhang> bandit22, never try /list though, its how *not* to find channels
[02:51] <bazhang> bandit22, under preferences, logging or the like
[02:51] <bandit22> thanks
[02:51] <KM0201> bandit22: if you're using xchat, just turn on logging
[02:52] <bazhang> bandit22, settings --->preferences that menu
[02:52] <bazhang> duyuhuadyh, installed from where?
[02:53] <bandit22> found it thanks alot I'm new at this  but will learn it quickly
[02:53] <bazhang> bandit22, xchat has some online documentation as well
[02:53] <KM0201> bandit22: we all were...
[02:53] <mrdeb> do you like xchat
[02:54] <bazhang> mrdeb, thats not really a support question
[02:54] <mrdeb> hmm
[02:54] <duyuhuadyh> quit
[02:54] <duyuhuadyh> exit
[02:54] <qin> slash
[02:54] <duyuhuadyh> #quit
[02:54] <bazhang> duyuhuadyh, with /
[02:54] <bandit22> have been trying to find info on gens/gs emulator to setup joystick
[02:54] <coz_> mrdeb,  xchat is an excellent irc client as is quassel on kde,,
[02:55] <coz_> mrdeb,  it comes down to what you feel comfortable with
[02:55] <mrdeb> thanks coz for your polite answer
[02:56] <coz_> mrdeb,  also on ubuntu,, is gnome xchat , however I only used that once and did not go back,, I prefer xchat  even on kde
[02:56] <bandit22> I think I have the basic down to go there now thanks
[02:56] <bazhang> bandit22, you may wish to change the default port for connecting to irc
[02:56] <bandit22> why?
[02:56] <mrdeb> it's pretty cool
[02:57] <bazhang> mrdeb, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic , you know that
[02:57] <mrdeb> ok coz_ its for offtopic
[02:57] <joshlegs> so uh, how do i view the contents of my iphone (pics etc) when i connect it via usb on ubuntu .. ?
[02:57] <coz_> mrdeb,  one of the great advantages of linux,,  is that you have to opportunity to try , experiment with, many applications and their variants,, you can always remove what doesnt suit you
[02:58] <gogeta> coz_: pidgin built in irc hear
[02:58] <coz_> george_,  I have only used that once,, I prefer xchat,, again on ubuntu you have great opportunity to experiment
[02:58] <bazhang> bandit22, for security
[02:58] <imperfect-> Anyone know why freebsd is invite only/??
[02:58] <bazhang> imperfect-, its not
[02:59] <bazhang> imperfect-, you need to register
[02:59] <bandit22> If i dnew shat ot do i would
[02:59] <bazhang> imperfect-, /join #freenode
[02:59] <imperfect-> Thanks.
[02:59] <Gryllida> http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/all/emacs/filelist ... is that all that Ubuntu has for emacs? Why do I download the .deb at http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/emacs and it has very few files?
[03:00] <bazhang> bandit22, pardon? could not understand you
[03:01] <bazhang> !register | imperfect-
[03:01] <bandit22> sorry bad typing i am new to ubuntu and don't know how to change ports
[03:01] <bazhang> bandit22, xchat-->network list -->click Ubuntu servers (which is really freenode) edit
[03:02] <roo79> anyone here have a Kogan agora pro I can't get bluetooth to work again after a clean install
[03:02] <bazhang> bandit22, then double click the top field and change from 6667 to 7000
[03:04] <bandit22> Thanks this is good to know
[03:05] <bazhang> bandit22, you may also wish to get a cloak for your account
[03:05] <bazhang> !cloak | bandit22
[03:05] <bazhang> bandit22, /join #freenode if so
[03:06] <Osmodivs> Hello. I installed the nVidia Driver 270.41.19 in Ubuntu 64bits, Is it ok if I download a most recent version for Windows XP? I have dual boot, but I'm not sure if I am gonna messe up the configuration on Linux,
[03:06] <joshlegs> grr, can anyone tell me how to pull data from my iphone? i.e., pics of the fireworks?
[03:07] <alexleon> josh just plug it in ubuntu asks u
[03:08] <joshlegs> :S it didn't ask me alexleon. i'll try again
[03:08] <bandit22> i will check out tomorrow too tired tonight thanks for all the info though later
[03:09] <alexleon> josh make sure u put ur password in ur ifphone
[03:09] <joshlegs> you mean unlock it? it's at the home screen and connected
[03:09] <joshlegs> says it's charging on the iphone home screen
[03:09] <joshlegs> but nothing showing up in ubuntu :S
[03:09] <Northernen> Shouldn't 'make defconfig' create a configure file?
[03:09] <alexleon> ye unlock it
[03:10] <joshlegs> hm. i guess i need ifuse :S
[03:10] <alexleon> ubuntu asks to open pics music and data
[03:10] <alexleon> well ubuntu 11.04 does
[03:11] <joshlegs> ahh i have like 10.04 i think
[03:11] <Kane`> quick question: on a clean install of ubuntu-server, what packages should i install to get wifi+atheros firmware/drivers installed?
[03:11] <joshlegs> but im getting ifuse now, thanks alexleon
[03:11] <Kane`> compat-wireless?
[03:12] <aColdshot> umm whats the diff between a TAR.gz and a DEB??
[03:12] <sd> takes a little getting use to but i like 11.04 but still have to wait and see
[03:12] <alexleon> josh np
[03:13] <alexleon> i started using ubuntu 11.04 yesterday nd my ubuntu loves my iphone :P
[03:13] <minimec> TAR.gz is a compression file format, while deb is a distribution package format for debian based systems
[03:13] <aColdshot> minimec, thanks
[03:13] <alexleon> i need help o.O
[03:14] <joshlegs> :o ;o ;o m00se !!
[03:14] <joshlegs> you're one of the alliance wars developers aren't you???
[03:14] <m00se> !mOO
[03:14] <alexleon> moose all right help me
[03:16] <alexleon> -_- july 4th
[03:16] <m00se> I can't - I have to shoot fireworks!
[03:16] <m00se> brb!
[03:16] <Osmodivs> Is it possible to have different driver versions in different OS in dual boot?
[03:16] <Henryk> Question: Whenever I plug/unplug an external monitor into my Laptop something in Ubuntu somewhere does the equivalent of an xrandr --auto (e.g. setting up all outputs per defaults), messing up my carefully crafted xrandr settings for my presentation (the projector doesn't have proper EDID). What does this and how can I stop it from doing that?
[03:16] <alexleon> i saw them but i didnt take pics
[03:16] <alexleon> osmodivs yes
[03:17] <alexleon> henry smart ppl is busy with fireworks pics :( sorry
[03:18] <coz_> Osmodivs,  I agree yes,, what you cant have is two video cards,,,nvidia - intel,, and have both drivers installed on one system
[03:18] <alexleon> coz u have to help me
[03:18] <lei_> Hi,  i am a newcomer
[03:18] <appi_uppi> can i run yahoo messenger in Ubuntu?
[03:19] <alexleon> appi use emphaty
[03:19] <sd> appi_uppi pigeon or something like that
[03:19] <alexleon> coz i wanna make video calls from live messenger to empathy
[03:20] <appi_uppi> alexleon, I'm using it but i have already configured gmail account, not able to see yahoo account. Even, I wanna make video call :)
[03:20] <coz_> !name
[03:20] <coz_> gah
[03:20] <coz_> !nick
[03:20] <sd> alexleon: emphaty never tried thanks i'll check it out
[03:21] <lei_> Does anyone there who know about kvm(kernel-based  virtual machine) or use it on ubuntu?
[03:21] <Omega> !ask | lei_
[03:21] <alexleon> sd  its empathy
[03:22] <alexleon> if i could make video calls ubuntu would be perfect
[03:22] <alexleon> ughhh :(
[03:22] <rats_> cd /home/blackrat
[03:22] <rats_> cd /home/blackrat
[03:23] <sd> alexleon yeah i see did they change name?
[03:23] <rats_> cd /home/blackrat
[03:23] <n-iCe> what are those exactly? Bit Rate=24 Mb/s   Tx-Power=27 dBm
[03:23] <appi_uppi> alexleon, I have disabled gtalk account and now able to see yahoo account
[03:23] <alexleon> sd no it was my mistake
[03:23] <sd> well still samething
[03:23] <alexleon> appi good but idk if u can make video calls cuz i cant
[03:24] <Omega> lei_: Do you have something specifically you want to know about kvm?
[03:24] <Omega> s/ally//
[03:24] <alexleon> i will try to install some codecs rite now and ill tell u what happens
[03:24] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM lei_
[03:24] <appi_uppi> alexleon, sure
[03:24] <aColdshot> Hope someone doesnt mind helping: I have a Tar on my desktop and im trying to get to the directory where the tar files were unpacked in a terminal window...
[03:25] <lei_> I need help, if anyone know how to configure network by bridge mode when start kvm by  libvirt
[03:25] <bazhang> aColdshot, tar of what
[03:25] <bazhang> lei_, did you read that link yet?
[03:25] <aColdshot> its a terminal theme program
[03:25] <bazhang> aColdshot, got a link?
[03:26] <sd> spelled it wrong was actually pidgin
[03:26] <bazhang> aColdshot, I'll try it, if so
[03:26] <lei_> yep, i am fixing a bug someone reported few days ago, but i cannot reproduce his network configuration
[03:26] <bazhang> lei_, whats the bug link
[03:27] <aColdshot> http://www.maketecheasier.com/supercharge-shell-with-bansish/2011/02/27
[03:27] <lei_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/690042
[03:28] <bazhang> aColdshot, 404 page not found
[03:28] <aColdshot> sorry bazhang it's http://maketecheasier.com/supercharge-shell-with-bashish/2011/02/27
[03:28] <bazhang> aColdshot, same thing page not found
[03:28] <aColdshot> wtf, k sec
[03:30] <aColdshot> bazhang, if this doesnt work Ill go back to gr5 http://maketecheasier.com/supercharge-shell-with-bashish/2011/01/27
[03:30] <sd> alexleon i just upgraded to 11.04 and was curious does empathy give voice chat because pidgin had it were it could but i never got it to work but theres been alot of changes and empathy is pre-installed with 11.04
[03:31] <lei_> Try again?  It should can work...   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/690042
[03:31] <n-iCe> is it better to have more TXPOWER in iwconfig or not?
[03:33] <Henryk> n-iCe: it's not
[03:33] <bazhang> http://bashish.sourceforge.net/download.html aColdshot this?
[03:34] <aColdshot> yea
[03:34] <Henryk> n-iCe: generally the power should be automatically determined by the card, and if it has to send with too much power that means your base station is farther away
[03:34] <n-iCe> Henryk: why?
[03:34] <n-iCe> Henryk: ok, so how do I set it to auto ?
[03:34] <anomaliz> hi everybody
[03:35] <anomaliz> can I put Gnome3 together to gnome shell?
[03:35] <anomaliz> I wanna do it but I cannot
[03:35] <Henryk> n-iCe: I think it is. that line is just there to inform you of the current state. (like the bit rate, which you usually also don't set)
[03:35] <minimec> n-iCe: You might consider "iwconfig ethX power off" for better wlan stability.
[03:35] <lei_> Is there anyone who knows how to configure network by bridge mode? i really need help!
[03:36] <lei_> ps: use libvirt to start a kvm guest
[03:36] <Skeeter-> could anywaone help me with my raid1 boot
[03:36] <bazhang> anomaliz, there is an unsupported PPA that will break things. better t o avoid
[03:36] <bazhang> !gnome3 > anomaliz
[03:36] <Skeeter-> http://pastie.org/2165292
[03:37] <ZykoticK9> anomaliz, if you want to use Gnome3 check out Fedora
[03:37] <n-iCe> Henryk minimec the thing is everything I boot ubuntu up says 27, but my awus036h seems to work better if I set it to 10, why?
[03:37] <Kane`> rt2500usb - how can i get this on ubuntu-server 10.04 ?
[03:37] <Henryk> lei_: brctl addbr br0; ip link set $first_interface up; brctl addif br0 $first_interface; ip link set $second_interface up; brctl addif br0 $second_interface; ifconfig br0 $whateveripyoulike up
[03:37] <Henryk> (or something like that)
[03:37] <Henryk> n-iCe: huh?
[03:37] <n-iCe> minimec: Error for wireless request "Set Power Management" (8B2C) : SET failed on device wlan1 ; Operation not supported.
[03:38] <n-iCe> Henryk: yes, Tx-Power= is set 27 by default, but if I change it to Tx-Power=10 dBm works better, I mean I can surf the internet faster
[03:38] <minimec> n-iCe: Ok. That is possible. It depends on the possibilities of the driver.
[03:38] <anomaliz> I have gnome3 on my ubuntu 10.10 but I wanna gnome shell together to gnome3
[03:39] <bazhang> anomaliz, its not supported. please dont ask for help here
[03:39] <n-iCe> minimec: :o how can I know which one should I set to a better performance?
[03:39] <Henryk> n-iCe: but then you already know how to set it?
[03:39] <anomaliz> why? sorry I'm new here
[03:40] <n-iCe> Henryk: Yeah googled how to
[03:40] <n-iCe> I used, sudo iwconfig wlan1 txpower 10
[03:40] <tertl3> can someone help me with Unity 2D vs 3D
[03:40] <bazhang> !gnome3 | anomaliz please read carefully
[03:40] <Skeeter-> could anyone help me with my raid1, im unable to install grub
[03:40] <Skeeter-> http://pastie.org/2165292
[03:40] <PandoraGaming> how do i get kubuntu to start in console not KDE.  I want it to bootup that way and if i need to use kde i can type startx
[03:40] <tertl3> PandoraGaming, do it at login time
[03:41] <bazhang> PandoraGaming, you mean kdm?
[03:41] <Dr_Willis_> !text
[03:41] <aColdshot> omg you include the '.' when typing /configure? I thought it was there to note start of code *facepalm*
[03:41] <n-iCe> minimec: that's weird, why is not my card or ubuntu setting by default the best option to the best performance i just don't get it
[03:41] <Henryk> Skaperen: raid-1 on 11 devices?!? now that's a little excessive, don't you think? ;-)
[03:41] <minimec> n-iCe: Well it normally does.
[03:41] <tertl3> how do I enable Unity-3D?
[03:41] <anomaliz> hi everybody
[03:42] <bazhang> tertl3, have the proper video drivers enabled?
[03:42] <PandoraGaming> yes i mean kdm
[03:42] <bazhang> anomaliz, hi
[03:42] <anomaliz> can I put gnome3 together gnome shell?
[03:42] <appi_uppi> alexleon, did you try video chat with empathy?
[03:42] <tertl3> bazhang, I do, but processes still say Unity-2D
[03:42] <Henryk> grr, dang outcompletion. I meant Skeeter-
[03:42] <bazhang> !gnome3 | anomaliz read carefully
[03:42] <V7|RTK> morning everyone
[03:42] <alexleon> appi yes it doesnt work
[03:42] <Skeeter-> Henryk, ??
[03:43] <bazhang> anomaliz, I've said five times now, its not supported. please dont ask about it
[03:43] <appi_uppi> alexleon, Oh I see, how we could configure then?
[03:43] <alexleon> appi im working on that
[03:43] <appi_uppi> cool
[03:43] <bazhang> tertl3, then log out, and choose there
[03:44] <tertl3> choose there?
[03:44] <bazhang> tertl3, in the login window?
[03:44] <anomaliz> oh sorry I thought that I was in other program and I changed it
[03:44] <anomaliz> sorry
[03:44] <bazhang> tertl3, select your user name, then go to the bottom panel and select
[03:45] <tertl3> bazhang, i can choose 3D there?
[03:45] <sd> alexleon i just upgraded to 11.04 and was curious does empathy give voice chat because pidgin had it but i never got it to work but theres been alot of changes and empathy is pre-installed with 11.04
[03:45] <bazhang> tertl3, sure
[03:45] <tertl3> bazhang, ah ok, thnks :)
[03:45] <Henryk> Skeeter-: what exactly is your problem with grub?
[03:45] <Skeeter-> Henryk, it wont install
[03:45] <Skeeter-> i must be doing sth wrong
[03:45] <V7|RTK> is there a web server that I could take it for learning web devlopment likes XAMP in windows?
[03:46] <bazhang> !lamp | V7|RTK
[03:46] <stercor> I'm upgrading from 10.11 to 11.04 and the console has been stuck at this line: "Installing new version of config file /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.default"  Is it really doing something else and just stopped there?  The progress bar has been stuck at "About 4 minutes remaining" for about 15 minutes.
[03:46] <V7|RTK> thanks you bazhang
[03:46] <bazhang> stercor, let it time out / continue
[03:46] <stercor> Time out?  It can do  that, huh?
[03:47] <bazhang> stercor, if it fails, yes
[03:47] <Henryk> Skeeter-: ok, what did you do? As far as I can tell there is not much else to do besides http://www.howtoforge.com/software-raid1-grub-boot-debian-etch-p2 Part 6  just that you have excessively many disks and therefore need to do the root (...) and setup (...) a couple more often
[03:47] <Skeeter-> Henryk, it doesnt even work on 1
[03:47] <alexleon> sd voice doesnt work either on empathy
[03:49] <anomaliz> when can I find good information about GTK 2
[03:49] <Henryk> Skeeter-: oh, scratch that. I didn't see that you were trying to do something with GRUB2. Sorry, I have never used that before
[03:49] <alexleon> sd sorry voice works :)
[03:49] <Skeeter-> Henryk, oh...
[03:49] <bazhang> anomaliz, what about gtk2
[03:50] <PandoraGaming> i downloaded and installed SysV Runlevel Config and i see kdm but it doesn't have any X's in 1,2,3,4,5,0,6, or S what am i suppose to select to prevent it from loading during system boot
[03:50] <anomaliz> I want to hold more information about it
[03:50] <anomaliz> I'm programmer but I'm new in ubuntu
[03:51] <bazhang> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK%2B anomaliz
[03:51] <bazhang> http://www.gtk.org/ anomaliz
[03:52] <bazhang> PandoraGaming, installed how?
[03:52] <bazhang> !nox | PandoraGaming you mean this?
[03:52] <Henryk> anomaliz: the reference manual is at http://developer.gnome.org/gtk/2.24/
[03:52] <anomaliz> sorry I cannot explain you because I don't know  many English
[03:52] <anomaliz> but thanks you =)
[03:53] <bazhang> anomaliz, thats okay, but its not really an ubuntu specific support question
[03:54] <lei_> Henryk: Thanks for your reply, i am a newcomer to engage in kvm open source, and a new to here. i really want to fix that bug on ubuntu, and i have made a test pacth,but now still don't know how to test it...
[03:54] <anomaliz> do you know how to program with gtk?
[03:54] <edbian> anomaliz: I know how with python and pygtk.  I've never used gtk in C/C++
[03:55] <PandoraGaming> ok i can do the append text thing that sounds easy last question, I only run 2 programs on here and they stay running how do i launch them both in terminal cause terminal only lets me do one thing at a time
[03:55] <edbian> PandoraGaming: use an & at the end of the first command
[03:55] <edbian> PandoraGaming: Or use 2 terminals ;)
[03:55] <bazhang> PandoraGaming, screen irssi there?
[03:56] <n-iCe> hello, how can I know and install the best/newer drivers for my awus036h
[03:56] <PandoraGaming> how can i use 2 terminals cause if i disable kde at boot all i will have is one terminal
[03:56] <bazhang> n-iCe, additional drivers menu
[03:56] <Henryk> PandoraGaming: you generally have 6: Alt-F1 through Alt-F6
[03:56] <edbian> PandoraGaming: ctrl + alt + F2  is another temrinal
[03:56] <n-iCe> bazhang: bazhang don't think so
[03:56] <edbian> PandoraGaming: also. use an &   Then you only need 1 term
[03:56] <bazhang> n-iCe, sure thats it
[03:56] <PandoraGaming> oh wow i didn't know that lol
[03:56] <lei_> It's hardly to the  environment setting for the kvm...
[03:57] <anomaliz> jeje do you know some group to do apps?
[03:57] <bazhang> n-iCe, newer ones will be there when they become available
[03:57] <bazhang> anomaliz, do apps?
[03:57] <n-iCe> bazhang: how can I know the version
[03:57] <anomaliz> I wanna learn making
[03:57] <PandoraGaming> if i append text to the kernal will that prevent X and kde from launching at system boot, i just wanna keep my resorces as low as possible :P
[03:57] <anomaliz> yes
[03:57] <bazhang> !packaging | anomaliz
[03:58] <bazhang> n-iCe, it shows in the additional drivers screen
[03:59] <anomaliz> yes but I want in a group of programmers
[03:59] <bazhang> PandoraGaming, installing gnome and / or kde4 is not really a path to using minimal resources
[03:59] <anomaliz> do you get me?
[03:59] <bazhang> anomaliz, read the links please
[03:59] <anomaliz> ok =)
[04:00] <n-iCe> bazhang: can't find that
[04:01] <bazhang> n-iCe, system administration ---> additional drivers
[04:01] <lei_> ops
[04:01] <n-iCe> bazhang: I don't have that o.O
[04:02] <bazhang> n-iCe, what version of ubuntu
[04:02] <n-iCe> 10.04
[04:02] <bazhang> n-iCe, this is gnome? kde4? lxde? xfce4?
[04:02] <n-iCe> gnome
[04:02] <MikuChi> i have gnome :3
[04:03] <bazhang> n-iCe, you have system menu?
[04:03] <ParadigmUltra> Is  there a size limit for the compiz skydome image?
[04:03] <bazhang> n-iCe, and in that menu, administration sub menu?
[04:03] <n-iCe> hardware drivers it says
[04:03] <ParadigmUltra> !skytome
[04:03] <compubomb> i have a question, i have a system which has ubuntu 10.10 installed on it along with windows 7, what i'm worried about is that if i upgrade to 11.04 will it ruin my dualboot when it reinstalls grub2?
[04:03] <ParadigmUltra> !skydome
[04:03] <bazhang> ParadigmUltra, probably. try #compiz if no one here knows
[04:04] <appi_uppi> alexleon, even I tried meebo, but was not able to see video chat
[04:04] <ParadigmUltra> thanks
[04:04] <bazhang> n-iCe, then click it?
[04:04] <bazhang> compubomb, no it wont.
[04:04] <compubomb> bazhang: is there anything specific that i should do to avoid it breaking?
[04:04] <bazhang> compubomb, that being said, always have backups of everything important.
[04:05] <bazhang> compubomb, apart from backups? nothing leaps to mind
[04:09] <CaptWho> can anyone think of a way that I can force an install on a machine with only a 4 gig HD?
[04:09] <ugly_duck> lol.. 4gb
[04:09] <n-iCe> CaptWho: lubuntu
[04:09] <CaptWho> is that a smaller version of ubuntu or a loader?
[04:10] <ugly_duck> little ubuntu maybe
[04:10] <CaptWho> found it
[04:11] <kaizoku> hola alguien me puede ayudar tengo una ati y no la puedo instalar
[04:12] <tsimpson> !es | kaizoku
[04:12] <n-iCe> anyone can solve this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/11336/wifi-speed-with-driver-rtl8187-drops
[04:12] <kaizoku> gracias
[04:13] <CaptWho> so the machine that I'm running has 4gb and ubuntu reqires 4.4gb.   i would think that the standard ubuntu would run if i can get it on the machine.  if i install lubuntu, is there a way that i can upgrade it to the standard version?
[04:13] <ugly_duck> a standalone machine for a firewall?
[04:14] <ParadigmUltra> OK, whatever the reason, it's not the filesize, I redused my image to below another file that works in the skydome, yet this image still wont work.
[04:14] <CaptWho> no, just a netbook
[04:14] <ParadigmUltra> Maybe resolution
[04:16] <anomaliz> what's it karmic?
[04:17] <anomaliz> or jaunty
[04:20] <VonhintenHOME`> Anyone know how to set a VPN up so it's not the default gateway?
[04:21] <bin_bash> How can i check if i'm running BIOS or EFI grub?
[04:22] <bullgard4_> Is it advisable to install the DEB program package laptop-mode-tools ("Tools for Power Savings based on battery/AC status") on a Thinkpad T61?
[04:23] <alexleon> i cant nake video calls pfff
[04:24] <bin_bash> Anyone?
[04:24] <alexleon> bin are u smart?
[04:24] <bin_bash> Yes.
[04:24] <bin_bash> I am.
[04:24] <bullgard4_> alexleon: Your message is not detailed enough to be useful.
[04:25] <alexleon> i wanna make videocalls between empathy nd live messenger
[04:25] <alexleon> bin then fix it :)
[04:25] <alexleon> bull :(
[04:25] <bin_bash> awwww alexleon has special needs.
[04:26] <alexleon> bin u perv o_O
[04:26] <bin_bash> ...how am I a perv
[04:26] <rww> let's not, thanks.
[04:26] <alexleon> special needs -_-
[04:26] <compubomb> anyone know if ubuntu has the updated scheduler, just curious, i read about it last year and was wondering if they ever added it to the ubuntu kernel.
[04:26] <bin_bash> I can't figure out how to check whether or not I'm running the EFI or BIOS version of GRUB
[04:27] <alexleon> cant make video calls
[04:27] <bin_bash> alexleon, Have you considered that maybe it's not implemented?
[04:27] <alexleon> video calls are important :(
[04:28] <rww> bin_bash: use your favorite package manager to see which grub* package you have installed. grub-pc means BIOS, the other names should be self-explanatory. they can't be installed simultaneously, so there should only be one.
[04:28] <alexleon> i have isntalled codecs nd everything
[04:28] <rww> bin_bash: (the options are pc, coreboot, efi-amd64, efi-ia32, ieee1275, and legacy (which is GRUB1 which I don't think supports EFI))
[04:28] <bin_bash> I definitely have GRUB2
[04:29] <bin_bash> as it's 1.99
[04:29] <bin_bash> Is it apt-search?
[04:29] <bin_bash> I'm used to using Pacman
[04:29] <alexleon> my grubs is beautiful
[04:29] <rww> bin_bash: I'd use aptitude search ~i~ngrub, but that isn't installed by default *shrug*
[04:30] <bin_bash> I /just/ installed ubuntu to see if I could because Arch couldn't install GRUB
[04:30] <bin_bash> But apparently it's installed here
[04:30] <bin_bash> so i'm trying to figure out what's going on
[04:30] <w30> bin_bash, doesn't your computer's utility bios tell you whether EFI or regular Bios is enabled
[04:30] <bin_bash> nah it's a mac
[04:32] <bin_bash> okay. it's grub-pc
[04:33] <w30> bin_bash, does a mac have to be EFI?
[04:33] <bin_bash> w30, no
[04:33] <update> can i run ubuntu on an imac?
[04:33] <bin_bash> update, yes
[04:34] <alexleon> who can make videocalls between empathy nd live messenger is smart
[04:35] <alexleon> thats impossible :(
[04:35] <bin_bash> alexleon, I already told you you can't. so shut up.
[04:35] <alexleon> bin help me to install live messanger with wine
[04:35] <bin_bash> Go become an hero.
[04:36] <rww> bin_bash: That's not apppropriate.
[04:36] <rww> or appropriate.
[04:36] <tertl3> bazhang, i have nvidia installed, but I get no Unity 3D option
[04:36] <alexleon> yes u are being rude u .......
[04:36] <mfilipe> Hi! I'm using ubuntu-lucid and I don't got sync contacts :(
[04:36] <mfilipe> I tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials/LucidCouchDB
[04:36] <mfilipe> but it doesn't work
[04:36] <mfilipe> :(
[04:36] <alexleon> mfilipe thats imposible
[04:37] <bin_bash> rww, Sorry.
[04:37] <mman> i know that i asked already, but still cant do it... how to filter files by date, lets say all docs in a file that where created in 2011
[04:38] <mfilipe> alexleon, so, I'm using couchdb-bin-1.0.1
[04:38] <robin0800> tertl3: You do know unity 3d is just called unity in the menu?
[04:38] <alexleon> mfilipe im kidding idk about it :)
[04:39] <mfilipe> anyone with problems to sync contacts in lucid?
[04:39] <tertl3> robin0800, i only saw Unity 2D in my menu
[04:39] <hypatia> hey folks, i can't log back into my desktop after the screen times out and locks
[04:39] <hypatia> any ideas?
[04:39] <hypatia> (as in, screensaver lock)
[04:39] <tertl3> robin0800, I'll try again to make sure
[04:39] <hypatia> i tried ctrl-alt-f1 --> ctrl-alt-f7 but that lets me see a mouse butmy terminal stays visible
[04:40] <robin0800> tertl3: You must have installed that then as its not present by default
[04:41] <tertl3> robin0800, yes, I only have Unity 2D option?
[04:41] <Dr_Willis_> uniy 3d has use of the 3d features of the video card. 2d does not
[04:41] <robin0800> tertl3: Are you on 11.10?
[04:42] <Dr_Willis_> 2d has limited options and missing features
[04:42] <tertl3> can I download unity 3d?
[04:42] <tertl3> robin0800, im on 11.04
[04:42] <h1gh> mman: you could use `find` with -newer or -mtime
[04:42] <Dr_Willis_> 3d is default in   11.04
[04:42] <compubomb> the upgrade server is really slow atm.
[04:42] <tertl3> i wasnt aware that 11.10 was out
[04:42] <Flannel> tertl3: It's not.
[04:42] <Dr_Willis_> tertl3:  its in  testing
[04:42] <tertl3> alpha?
[04:43] <Dr_Willis_> yes
[04:43] <tertl3> my system must not think I can handle unity 3D but I have a 9500Gt
[04:43] <tertl3> anything I can do?
[04:43] <Dr_Willis_> your video drivers may not be  right
[04:44] <update> whats a good channel for hackign
[04:44] <robin0800> tertl3: You must have installed that then as its not present by default
[04:44] <update> ?
[04:44] <pat201> if i wanted to play a game made for windows, would wine be the program to use to make it run?
[04:44] <Dr_Willis_> install the nvidia drivers
[04:44] <Dr_Willis_> pat201: yes
[04:44] <tertl3> Dr_Willis I have version current installed
[04:45] <tertl3> should I try 173 instead?
[04:45] <compubomb> this server 'jackass.cononical.com' is really slow.
[04:45] <robin0800> tertl3: I've never heard of the menu option disappearing
[04:45] <Dr_Willis_> check nvidia-settings tool tertl3   see if they are in use
[04:45] <Jon--> I know that BackTrack is not officially supported by Ubuntu. However, I have been trying for hours to get assistance in various channels [##linux and #backtrack-linux], so here is my issue. Created live USB with GRUB2 and several different tools. Formatted with fat32, works fine with other distributions (including ubuntu). Attempting to add the BackTrack 5 ISO. Unfortunately, I get "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium contai
[04:45] <Jon--> ning a live file system" and I get dropped into the Ubuntu minimilist shell (after the BackTrack 5 splash is displayed for about 30 seconds). Here is my grub config file. http://pastebin.com/5wqyZKpL
[04:46] <rww> Jon--: If you know it's not supported, why are you asking for support with it?
[04:46] <tertl3> Dr_Willis the icon is there but it wont open?
[04:46] <Jon--> rww, Because I've been sitting with Google and IRC for 4 hours to no avail.
[04:46] <Dr_Willis_> bad iso  is bad...
[04:46] <rww> Jon--: Go ask #backtrack-linux or install Ubuntu.
[04:46] <Dr_Willis_> tertl3:  run it from  te3rminal
[04:46] <mman> h1gh, which argument do you have to use with -newer?
[04:46] <Jon--> rww, I already run ubuntu as my main OS, hence why this is going on a USB. I have ran Ubuntu for about 4 years now.
[04:47]  * rww sighs
[04:47] <Dr_Willis_> i dont see much need for bt.  they seem ot have a lot of issues
[04:47] <tertl3> Dr_Willis 'nvidia-settings' is currently not installed
[04:47] <rww> Jon--: #ubuntu is for supported versions of Ubuntu and officially supported derivatives. Please do not ask for help with unsupported derivatives in #ubuntu.
[04:47] <h1gh> mman: with -newer you would use a filename you created with touch to the start date for your search
[04:47] <Dr_Willis_> tertl3:        odd. its part of the nvidia drivers package
[04:48] <Jon--> rww, Very well, I'll continue hopelessly for another 4 hours then.
[04:48] <tertl3> Dr_Willis could be my kernels since I have low lat kernel installed
[04:48] <tertl3> gonna try something
[04:48] <Dr_Willis_> tertl3: no idea on that.
[04:48] <mman> h1gh, so i create a file with touch with date lets say 2011/1/1 and then use that file as my "reference point"?
[04:49] <saksham> i currently have opensuse installed. I wish to switch-over to ubuntu, and add more disk space too. So do I need to remove the grub i have right now??
[04:49] <Jon--> Dr_Willis_, I don't have my heart set on using an ISO, however I'm not sure how I could boot it without an ISO or doing serious formatting to the drive, which already works well for other things. I'll stop my discussion as this is off topic. If you'd like to assist, please PM me.
[04:49] <h1gh> mman: right, like `touch -t 201101010000 test` then `find . -newer test`
[04:49] <Dr_Willis_> saksham:  install ubuntu it will install its own grub
[04:49] <MikuChi> hi
[04:49] <mfilipe> I get 500 error :(
[04:49] <MikuChi> ubuntu
[04:49] <MikuChi> users :3
[04:49] <mfilipe> sync contacts with ubuntu is sux :(
[04:50] <saksham> but what about the grub currently installed? will it remain?
[04:50] <saksham> i have dual boot right no - win 7 and suse
[04:50] <Dr_Willis_> only one grub on the mbr at a time saksham
[04:50] <Dr_Willis_> pick an os to manage it.
[04:51] <mman> h1gh, and then can i pipe it and cp it? like: find -newer test | cp * /
[04:51] <n-iCe> what kernel does 11.04 uses?
[04:51] <rww> n-iCe: 2.6.38
[04:51] <Dr_Willis_> ubuntu shold be   able to boot all 3 of those saksham
[04:52] <n-iCe> how often does ubuntu upgrades kernel rww?
[04:52] <saksham> is it necessary that grub resides in MBR? (I think i didn't install it in the MBR, while installing suse) How do I check it?
[04:52] <rww> n-iCe: each new version of Ubuntu has a new kernel. Once a version is released, the kernel is not upgraded to new major versions, per our stable release updates policy.
[04:53] <tertl3> Dr_Willis now nvidia-settings is working, but no Unity 3D still
[04:53] <h1gh> mman: well if I wanted a copy, I would pipe to something like tar, but yes, that's the idea, maybe with xargs, and watch filenames with spaces in them
[04:53] <n-iCe> rww: you know any distro who uses always the lastest kernel? does it exists?
[04:53] <rww> n-iCe: so 11.04 has 2.6.38, 10.10 has 2.6.35, 10.04 has 2.6.32, etc., and they will always have those kernel versions.
[04:54] <rww> n-iCe: try asking ##linux, we stick to Ubuntu in here :)
[04:54] <mman> h1gh, i searched for xargs but didnt understand what is it for
[04:54] <Dr_Willis_> n-iCe: source based distros are focused on  the latest stuff nooormally
[04:55] <Dr_Willis_> ubuntu focuses on stable
[04:55] <n-iCe> Dr_Willis_: source based?
[04:55] <buddha_> n-iCe: choose a rolling-release like Arch, or build your own with Gentoo
[04:55] <html-inprogress> hi everyone
[04:55] <Dr_Willis_> n-iCe:  gentoo,  lfs, others
[04:55] <ozpr0gs> hello
[04:56] <ozpr0gs> Asslamualaikum
[04:56] <h1gh> mman: xargs takes input from the pipe as more arguments
[04:57] <mman> h1gh, but lets say how could i use xargs for my filtering and then copyng?
[04:57] <ugly_duck> any info around to install ati drivers?
[04:57] <ugly_duck> i have a X1300
[04:58] <ozpr0gs> help me install driver wifi in backtrack 4
[04:58] <tertl3> Dr_Willis robin0800 bazhang, Unity 3D is just labeled "Ubuntu"
[04:58] <buddha_> ozprogs: what kind of wifi card do you have?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis_> tertl3:  its the default so yes.. its called ubuntu
[04:59] <ozpr0gs> intel
[04:59] <tertl3> Dr_Willis, I was looking for "Unity 3D"   my mistake :)
[05:00] <h1gh> mman: it would not work so well with cp, so that's why I would make a tarball first, for example
[05:00] <mman> h1gh, :S
[05:01] <buddha_> ozprogs: what's the output of 'lspci | grep -i network' ?
[05:01] <html-inprogress> i  just saw some guy  post  that this swap is 27gb and has 8gb of ddr2....      itsnt that really REALLY HIGH ?
[05:01] <minimec> ugly_duck: catalyst is not available for that card for years anymore...
[05:02] <Dr_Willis_> html-inprogress:  unusual i would say
[05:02] <cypha> how do I make output from a command scrollable?
[05:02] <cypha> at the CL
[05:02] <html-inprogress> WHY WOULD YOU NEED SUCH A THING
[05:02] <Dr_Willis_> cypha:  use more
[05:02] <cypha> dr_willis, where?
[05:02] <cypha> dr_willis_, where?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis_> ls -l    | more
[05:03] <Dr_Willis_> bash basics
[05:03] <buddha_> cypha: yourcommandhere | more
[05:03] <ParadigmUltra> html-inprogress: Thats actually not bad.  Your swap should be at least twice as much as your RAM
[05:03] <cypha> isn't working
[05:03] <Dr_Willis_> your doint it wrong then ;)
[05:03] <ParadigmUltra> html-inprogress: My swap file is 16Gigs
[05:03] <cypha> it's a python traceback
[05:03] <Dr_Willis_> whates the exact command you are using
[05:04] <buddha_> cypha: try 'less' instead of 'more'
[05:04] <cypha> paster serve setup.ini
[05:04] <rww> maybe you need to redirect stderr to stdout?
[05:04] <ParadigmUltra> html-inprogress: My swap file is 16 Gigs for 8gigs of Ram.  but 22 isn't outrageous.
[05:04] <cypha> less doesn't do anything either
[05:05] <cypha> well, it at least put me in the screen for "less" where the bottom left shows "end" but still, I can't scroll up and down
[05:05] <alexleon> :( who have installed live messenger with wine?
[05:05] <h1gh> mman: like `find . -mtime -1 | xargs tar -cvzf temp.tgz` and than extract the tarball where you want to copy to go
[05:05] <xangua> !appdb | alexleon
[05:06] <ParadigmUltra> !swap
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> ParadigmUltra, html-inprogress i personally think 2x RAM in modern systems is probably overkill.  In order to use Hybernate swap must be "slightly" large then physical.  But a 16GB swap is almost certainly to underused, and thus a waste of HD space.
[05:06] <cypha> so scrollable how?
[05:06] <mman> h1gh, ill use that if i dont find the answer for copy! ill tell you if i found it ;) thanks for the help :D
[05:07] <alexleon> ubottu how u make videocalls between live messenger nd empathy?
[05:07] <buddha_> cypha: maybe direct output to text file? 'paster serve setup.ini > somefile.txt;
[05:07] <h1gh> mman: ok
[05:07] <alexleon> ugh
[05:07] <html-inprogress> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwMvMKs2pEc&feature=feedrec_grec_index             HERE IS THE LINK
[05:07] <alexleon> can a human answer me please?
[05:07] <cypha> buddha_, can I take the output and put it in the GPM clipboard?
[05:07] <cypha> (i'm on ubuntu server)
[05:08] <buddha_> maybe
[05:08] <tertl3> alexleon, skype?
[05:08] <buddha_> sorry Im not sure
[05:08] <ParadigmUltra> I have a solid state hard drive so I use a swap FILE instead of a partition, because constantly writing memory to one area of my drive will kill my drive's life.  A file will get written wherever there is free space anywhere on the drive.  It's also easy to resize if I need to.
[05:08] <Dr_Willis_> alexleon:  not all im video features are supported.
[05:08] <html-inprogress> SOOO what do i need it for ? if i do make it bigger?
[05:08] <alexleon> i need it working witn live messenger
[05:08] <cypha> buddha_, that didn't work
[05:09] <cypha> it only output the last line
[05:09] <buddha_> hmm
[05:09] <ParadigmUltra> I have hear from people that if you have lots of memory 8-16 gigs, you probably don't need swap.  But I like to keep things the way that I know it has worked for years.
[05:09] <Dr_Willis_> !im
[05:10] <buddha_> cypha: is there a specific thing you need from the output? because them you could pipe it through grep
[05:10] <alexleon> video calls !!!
[05:10] <cypha> buddha_, I need to pastebin it
[05:10] <xangua> alexleon: no currenty msn client supports video call because microsoft doesn't fair play
[05:10] <xangua> currently*
[05:10] <alexleon> microsoft sucks
[05:11] <Dr_Willis_> so use an alternative
[05:11] <ugly_duck> minimec: are there not open source drivers or something?
[05:12] <minimec> ParadigmUltra: With a modern SSD the hardware algorythm will never write constantly on the same area, even with a fix swap partition.
[05:12] <buddha_> cypha: I'm kind of out of ideas, I don't work with servers so I don't really know my way around them.
[05:12] <alexleon> wait what about a web live messenger :O
[05:12] <alexleon> mm brb
[05:12] <stercor> bazhang: The 10.11 upgrade to 11.04 still has 4 minutes to go and remains at the same statement.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis_> alexleon:  or google talk.. or meebo.com
[05:12] <cypha> buddha_, this did it: paster serve setup.ini 1>&2 2> output.txt
[05:12] <buddha_> nice!
[05:13] <minimec> ugly_duck: there is only the radeon driver. You would have two possibilities for 3D acceleration... Gallium3D (default on 11.04) or old mesa 3D.
[05:13] <ParadigmUltra> minimec: That's good to know.  Still may as well not take the chance.  Some times those algorythms have questionable  effectiveness
[05:14] <ugly_duck> minimec: thanks
[05:15] <Zolty1> Hello everyone, I am trying to get some help configuring grub2. After an update my windows 7 install stopped booting w/o an error message. I am trying to see if I am in the right place.
[05:15] <benonsoftware> Right place (I hope) :)
[05:16] <stercor> I'm upgrading from 10.11 to 11.04.  The last message in the Distribution Upgrade terminal window is "Installing new verson of config file /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.default.  It's been stuck there for more than an an hour.
[05:16] <V7|RTK> !grub2|Zolty1
[05:16] <buddha_> stercor: sometimes shit just don't work.
[05:17] <V7|RTK> Zolty1, You can google for windows7 after ubuntu
[05:18] <stercor> buddha_: Excellent diagnosis.  How to fix it?
[05:18] <stercor> buddha_: Start from scratch?
[05:18] <buddha_> stercor: yeah sorry, probs best option
[05:19] <buddha_> stercor: I just hosed my Arch root partition, so I'm on a livecd right now, I feel your pain.
[05:19] <acecool> h
[05:20] <stercor> I'm don't want to break anything, or wind up with a brick.  Is a re-install OK?
[05:20] <MikuChi> hi ubuntu
[05:20] <MikuChi> [:
[05:20] <mman> h1gh, found the solution!! find -newer test -exec cp "{}" /place/to/copy \;
[05:21] <MikuChi> hi ubuntu
[05:21] <MikuChi> no one replies to me ]:
[05:21] <buddha_> stercor: yeah reinstall should be totally fine, unless you are installing on something weird, like your refrigerator.
[05:21] <buddha_> and by weird I mean awesome.
[05:21] <cypha> buddha_, how do I replace the word "mike" with "bob" through a single text file?
[05:21] <stercor> Well, I figured that the dog has enough energy to power it.
[05:21] <eternaltyro> 2
[05:22] <html-inprogress> so everyone why would  you need  a lot of swap space ? more  then the stock
[05:22] <xangua> MikuChi: do you have a support question¿
[05:22] <buddha_> cypha: I think grep has something like that but idk. google it, i know i've looked it up before.
[05:23] <cypha> k
[05:24] <ParadigmUltra> I'm trying to copy the contents of a CD to a folder, and the "sudo cp ..." command keeps ommiting files.  What can I do to make sure it doesn't omit anything?
[05:24] <html-inprogress> ParadigmUltra, so how do you do that swap file thing?
[05:25] <buddha_> stercor: if by dog you mean computer then reinstall away. If by dog you mean dog then yes, if you try to reinstall the operating system it came with you will brick it.
[05:25] <ParadigmUltra> html-inprogress: http://copypasted.info/2011/06/how-to-make-a-swap-file-for-ubuntu/
[05:26] <ParadigmUltra> Follow those instruction, its very easy
[05:26] <h1gh> mman: okay yes, that will copy one at a time, nice
[05:27] <twnznz> moose are you andy
[05:27] <mman> h1gh, thanks for ur help :D
[05:27] <jamescarr_> is there a mirror to install packages for ubuntu 9?
[05:27] <jamescarr_> I'm not ready to force an upgrade just yet
[05:27] <Cydd> halfway on my walk to school, someone put a gun to the back of my head and told me to give him all my money, as i slowly turned around i saw it was my dad putting a banana to my head
[05:28] <Gryllida> Cydd, wrong channel?
[05:28] <h1gh> mman: but it does not preserve the path does it?
[05:28] <ParadigmUltra> NM I found the answer.  -r
[05:29] <mman> h1gh, what do u mean with preserve the path?
[05:29] <buddha_> jamescarr: I think everyone (including Canonical) has stopped supporting 9
[05:29] <Rotham> for installing an ssh server is openssh-server recomended?
[05:30] <h1gh> mman: well if the current folder has a heirarchy, that will not be preserved in the destination
[05:31] <ParadigmUltra> Now just waiting for the orange box to copy over :-)  giggidy giigidy!
[05:31] <mman> h1gh, maybe, lucky me i had all the files in the same folder, didnt have to find in any other place :D
[05:32] <mman> h1gh, most probably you would have to add an argument in the find
[05:33] <Austin_> Hello, I'm having some problems installing Ubuntu on a Toshiba Satellite A105-S4164 running Windows XP SP3 with an Intel T1350 processor and 1GB of RAM
[05:33] <h1gh> mman: this preserves path `find . -mtime -1 -type f -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cvf - | (cd /tmp/ && tar xf -)`
[05:33] <ki__> Anyone else experience half battery life using linux over windows? I'm using a ThnkPad T510 Laptop
[05:33] <Cydd> ah ha
[05:33] <Cydd> windows wins!
[05:34] <xangua> ki__: since kerne 2.6.38
[05:34] <xangua> kernel*
[05:34] <jamescarr_> is there a mirror to install packages for ubuntu 9?
[05:34] <xangua> jamescarr_: not supported, please upgrade to a suṕported version
[05:34] <jamescarr_> `
[05:35] <jamescarr_> the client's server isnt ready for it
[05:35] <buddha_> ki_: look at phoronix for kernel power regressions. there is a workaround
[05:35] <jamescarr_> isnt there some kind of old mirror or something I can grab packages off of?
[05:35] <Austin_> can anyone help me trouble shoot my install problem?
[05:35] <jamescarr_> I just need to install some old php5 packages for that distro
[05:35] <Austin_> I have a disc made and USB installer for 11.04 build
[05:35] <xangua> jamescarr_: no
[05:36] <buddha_> Austin_: what exactly is the problem?
[05:36] <mman> h1gh, yup!! also another option for doing what i was trying to :D
[05:36] <Austin_> well at first when i opened the installer it looked NOTHING like the pics online
[05:36] <Austin_> and i had 3 options
[05:36] <buddha_> and?
[05:36] <Austin_> and 1/2 through the install it would stop at the boot.ini part
[05:37] <Austin_> give me an error
[05:37] <h1gh> mman: yep, find is always fun ... time for bed, 'nite
[05:37] <buddha_> what was the error?
[05:37] <mman> h1gh, same for me!!
[05:37] <Austin_> access denied
[05:38] <Cydd> anyone know that site where you enter two locations and it uses Google maps/street view and shows you "driving" there by going through streetview?
[05:38] <IdleOne> !ot | Cydd
[05:38] <xxx> nick fosco9999
[05:38] <Austin_> and now that i have the firewall and anti-virus off i cannot choose to just install it only gives me the Trial re-boot option which isn't working on my laptop for some reason... I'm TRYING to install Ubuntu to my external hard drive so that i can have a mobile OS and all my programs no matter what computer im on
[05:39] <Cydd> im sorry idleone
[05:39] <Cydd> ily <3
[05:40] <buddha_> Austin_: what is "it" that has the firewall and anti-virus off? XP?
[05:40] <fosco99997> I just updated my ubuntu distro and now i cannot drag windows to other desktops, like it would automatically change to a different desktop if i dragged the window to it.  does anyone know how to change this back?
[05:40] <Austin_> XP SP3
[05:41] <ZykoticK9> fosco99997, that drag window is only an option with compiz enabled.  Is compiz enabled?
[05:41] <fosco99997> Zykotick9, yes it is enabled.
[05:41] <ki__> xangua: I have kernel 2.6.35
[05:41] <buddha_> Austin_: so you are saying that the attempted Ubuntu install screwed up XP, which is on the internal disk?
[05:41] <ki__> could I benefit my laptop power usage by upgrading?
[05:42] <ZykoticK9> fosco99997, then check ccsm for the option i guess (i though that was on by default)
[05:42] <buddha_> ki_: nope, one regression from .34 to .35, another from .37 to .38
[05:43] <Austin_> no XP is running just fine... but the Ubuntu installer no longer has the INSTALL option its just the "Demo and Full Installation" and the "Learn More" options when at first i had 3 options and the third was "Install"
[05:43] <fosco99997> ZykoticK9, I cannot find it.
[05:44] <buddha_> Austin_: oh, ok, just trying to picture to situation. you said you have burned a CD and a USB. I assume you have tried both of them?
[05:44] <ZykoticK9> fosco99997, in a terminal type "ccsm" if it's not installed, it will explain how to install it.  Are you sure compiz is enabled?  "compiz --replace" from alt+f2
[05:44] <KM0201> Austin_: are you trying to remove your old ubuntu install, and clean install over it, or what?
[05:45] <fosco99997> ZykoticK9, i am looking at the program right now that lists all the plugins
[05:45] <ZykoticK9> fosco99997, ahhh, sorry.
[05:45] <Austin_> correct i have both a CD and USB for 11.04 ... first I tried the CD/DVD and it started to install to the external drive fine then gave me the Access Denied error when trying to write the Boot.ini file.... so i unistalled what had been installed and tried the USB same thing happened so I tried the WUBI installer and same thing... now I have no option to just install i HAVE to do the trial...
[05:46] <Austin_> ...then install method and upon re-boot my PC just boots into XP
[05:46] <Austin_> ive never installed or even used Ubuntu i've just been hearing good things about it and wanted to try to install it to my External Western Digital My Passport 500GB USB 2.0 drive for a mobile OS
[05:47] <ZykoticK9> fosco99997, you could try what is recommended here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1138273 best of luck
[05:47] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey peeps I use to have this how to to remove the encrypted /home setup from ubuntu but I can't find it. anybody have a how to out there for it?
[05:48] <buddha_> Austin_: I admire your willingness to try. Have you tried removing your internal drive before trying to install so that the only HD connected to your motherboard is the external?
[05:49] <Austin_> buddha_: no I have not as I'm running a laptop and that would cause my computer to have nothing to run off of
[05:49] <fosco99997> ZykoticK9, i got it thanks to your link, thank you
[05:49] <KM0201> Austin_: have you considered just installing like a normal person, and partitioning your internal drive and setting up a dual boot?
[05:50] <Austin_> KM0201_: I don't get an option to partion EVER for some reason... my installer graphics looks ENTIRELY different to any pics ive seen on youtube or the ubuntu site and that threw me off at first
[05:50] <buddha_> KM0201: Hey now, he knows what's best for his hardware
[05:51] <Zolty1> Hello I am wondering if I can show someone my windows 7 entry from grub.cfg and tell me if it looks right. It's not booting windows and not giving me an error it just goes back to the normal grub screen that pops up.
[05:51] <KM0201> buddha_: i woudln't say that.. :)  it wasn't an insult.. it's just i think some users(new ones especially) because they are afraid of partitioning, and they try to reinvent the wheel by installing to an external
[05:52] <buddha_> KM0201: touche
[05:52] <qin> Is there any picassa stuff for ubuntu?
[05:52] <buddha_> lousy keyboard that doesn't do accents
[05:52] <Austin_> KM0201_: Im not afraid to partition if i had the option i trust ubuntu ive heard nothing but praises from people i trust
[05:52] <Zolty1> qin http://picasa.google.com/linux/
[05:52] <ZykoticK9> Zolty1, if you are using Grub2 you really shouldn't be editing grub.cfg at all (it gets overwritten when there is a kernel update), does "sudo update-grub2" not automajically find your Windows 7?
[05:52] <Gryllida> qin, what do you mean?
[05:53] <ZykoticK9> !pastebinit > Zolty1
[05:53] <qin> Gryllida: Just founded, ment client.
[05:53] <Zolty1> ZykoticK9 it finds it fine and lists it fine, its just when I scroll down to it and select it it goes back to the main screen w/o an error
[05:53] <Gryllida> ok
[05:53] <Austin_> Buddha please help me solve this in provate chat?
[05:53] <buddha_> Austin_: Ok, so you boot up the disk, select the "Install" option, then what do YOU do?
[05:54] <qin> Ups, Wrong arch...
[05:54] <KM0201> Austin_: and what options did you say it gave you?
[05:54] <ZykoticK9> Zolty1, ok, if grub2 finds it - i'm no further help.  Good luck.
[05:55] <Zolty1> ZykoticK9 http://paste.ubuntu.com/638229/
[05:56] <Zolty1> ZykoticK9 Actually this should be the boot partition for windows http://paste.ubuntu.com/638230/
[05:56] <ZykoticK9> Zolty1, looks OK to me - but i wouldn't know.  Good luck.
[05:56] <Zolty1> ok thanks
[04:57] <viks_> when i am going to update 9.04 it is getting faild
[04:57] <viks_> saying old file is using
[04:57] <viks_> anyy solution
[04:57] <rww> !eol | viks_
[04:58] <qin> Well, picasa behave bad, it started from scanning ~, what next? Upload?
[04:59] <viks_> ubottu:  then cant we update
[04:59] <Zolty1> qin if picasa doesn't work for you shotwell is a linux developed alternative
[04:59] <dr_willi1> read the urls the bot gave
[05:01] <luyi> hello
[05:01] <Zolty1> hi
[05:02] <dr_willi1> howdy
[05:02] <luyi> this is the first time for me to use IRC
[05:02] <luyi> wonderful place
[05:03] <Gryllida> Indeed.
[05:03] <dr_willi1> its a bit of a slow night in here today.
[05:03] <KM0201> luyi: well, this is a good channel to come to.. :)
[05:03] <html-inprogress> how can i make a cloud storeage
[05:03] <qin> Zolty1: Well, feh is mostly enough foe me, but have to get pictures from google account, so I guess picasa is best option.
[05:04] <Gryllida> !ubuntuone | html-inprogress, is this what you want
[05:05] <dr_willi1> i do recall some gpl dropbox type clone you could run on your own.  but i never used it.
[05:05] <html-inprogress> thats the idea but i want to make one for my self,
[05:05] <dr_willi1> i dont even recall its name
[05:05] <Gryllida> html-inprogress, do you want to host a cloud?
[05:11] <bkerensa> If I change DE on Ocelot will that change be reverted during any future upgrades?
[05:12] <Gryllida> bkerensa, doubt it.
[05:12] <Gryllida> bkerensa, it's user setting, I've not seen those be just wiped out.
[05:12] <rww> bkerensa: #ubuntu+1 for Ocelot discussion and support, please
[05:12] <bkerensa> Gryllida: Can you explain LTS to me... Does LTS mean newer packages available in Natty are available in LTS?
[05:13] <html-inprogress> i think so ,  im not sure
[05:13] <html-inprogress> Gryllida,  i tgink so
[05:13] <Gryllida> bkerensa, updates are availabel for both channels, but they're not exactly same. Most are but some aren't.
[05:13] <bkerensa> Hmm
[05:13] <bkerensa> Ok
[05:13] <bkerensa> I just don't wanna let go of classic
[05:13] <bkerensa> thats why I ask]
[05:14] <bkerensa> people are saying going to LTS is the best move
[05:14] <Gryllida> bkerensa, most things maveric can do, natty also can; you just need to set it how you like.
[05:15] <KM0201> bkerensa: i agree.. it was hard for me to dump ubuntu.. I just don't like Unity, and when I took a look at Gnome 3, it sucks to... so i just had to embrace the change now.. rather than wait for it
[05:15] <Anastasius> Oh good, I'm unbanned.  Next question please!
[05:15] <bkerensa> Yeah but Mav and Natty will lose updates and some point which means I will have a choice between updates or being forced to use Unity
[05:15] <bkerensa> I wish Natty was LTS
[05:16] <KM0201> bkerensa: well, ubuntu 12.04, Painful Pallyups, will be LTS>.. :)
[05:16] <Gryllida> bkerensa, next lts release will have most new things.
[05:17] <KM0201> actually, what are the odds, that "P" won't be "Penguin"...?
[05:17] <KM0201> Phoenix Penguin
[05:17] <rww> KM0201: pretty high, Ubuntu doesn't tend to like strengthening the associations with Linux branding
[05:18] <KM0201> rww: you're probably right
[05:19] <J0E> Hi, all. Need your advise. Have a Lenovo T61 and am thinking to install Ubuntu 10.4 on it. Worked since years with windows and this would be my 2. Ubunut installation and I fear to run into a heap of mess. Whats your opinion ?
[05:19] <KM0201> J0E: why 10.04?
[05:19] <J0E> Cause its a TLS
[05:20] <KM0201> hmm, ok.. i guess. is this a home machine?
[05:20] <J0E> Not really,use it when I'm travelling
[05:20] <dzeremis> Hello everyone. I would like to ask for your help. I need some assistance regarding installation issues. I have a stable installation of Ubuntu 10.04. I wished to upgrade to 11.04 and the easiest way seemed to be installing them "side by side." Well, I did. No matter how careful I thought I was with the password, I couldn't get into 11.04. I went to try to install over it and the only option the Ubuntu installer gave me was to wipe out
[05:20] <dzeremis> everything. No way. Well, I installed a third copy of 11.04, which works. (I'm not in it right now. I have a wireless router driver issue to fix, but that's not the point.) The point is that I've got three copies of Ubuntu installed and three file systems. I only want two of them, and the installer didn't automatically pull in my previous files and such. Could you please (a) help me remove one of these excess 11.04 installations and (b) see
[05:20] <dzeremis> can pull my previous data into 11.04?
[05:20] <FloodBot1> dzeremis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:21] <jesse_> hello
[05:21] <Gryllida> jesse_, hello there.
[05:21] <jesse_> anyone using Ubuntu here..!!
[05:21] <dzeremis> Hello
[05:21] <jesse_> hi
[05:21] <Gryllida> jesse_, of course.
[05:21] <Zolty1> Nope we are all mac users
[05:22] <KM0201> dzeremis: that was amazing
[05:22] <dzeremis> Har har.
[05:22] <dzeremis> KM0201: How so?
[05:22] <KM0201> dzeremis: your best bet, is to back up any important data on the "good" 11.04 partition
[05:23] <KM0201> delete them both, and install 11.04 again
[05:23] <jesse_> hello gryllida
[05:23] <jesse_> are you there.?
[05:23] <html-inprogress> Gryllida,  i think so   ,,  about making a cloud
[05:23] <Gryllida> jesse_, hi, I'm here
[05:23] <dzeremis> KM0201: Okay. Thanks for your advice so far. I need some help deleting them. I simply don't know how. Could you tell me?
[05:23] <Gryllida> jesse_, please ask the channel, what's your issue?
[05:23] <J0E> Has someone experience with Ubuntu on a Lenovo Thinkpad ? (in my case a T61)
[05:23] <KM0201> dzeremis: wel, first, do you need to back anything up on those partitions?
[05:23] <Gryllida> jesse_, the channel knows it way better than me, just ask in here.
[05:24] <dzeremis> KM0201: As of right now, I have nothing invested in either of these 11.04 partitions. I just need to be sure I identify which one is my 10.04 partition.
[05:24] <Gryllida> html-inprogress, hold on please.
[05:24] <jesse_> see im trying to install an Opensource library management software KOHA on my UBUNTU
[05:24] <html-inprogress> ok
[05:24] <KM0201> J0E: what are exactly your questions, its unlikely you're gonna find someone w/ a t61 tonight.
[05:24] <jesse_> can anybody help in this regard,...??
[05:24] <KM0201> dzeremis: ok.
[05:24] <Gryllida> jesse_, stand by please. I'll be searching soon.
[05:24] <KM0201> and i take i you can't tell which is which, by looking at the partitions, right? (ie, the sizes)
[05:25] <jesse_> thanks
[05:25] <dzeremis> KM0201: I just want to be sure I don't delete everything by accident in the installer.
[05:25] <KM0201> dzeremis: ok... open up gparted... if youre in 11.04 and have unity, search for gparted, and open it... if you're using gnome classic, system/admin/partition editor
[05:26] <yimfos> 有人吗
[05:26] <dzeremis> KM0201: Um... Well, to be honest, no, not based on the sizes alone. If you give me a minute, I can pick out the size of the 10.04 partition. That's a start.
[05:26] <dzeremis> KM0201: ... Okay, just a moment.
[05:26] <Gryllida> yimfos, China?
[05:26] <KM0201> dzeremis: ok... figure out which is 10.04 first. (and double check and triple check thats it)
[05:26] <yimfos> 有人就说话
[05:26] <J0E> KM0201: I dont want to waste days to find out that it does not work on a Thinkpad or its not worth it as it does not support it well enough. So my question is can I get help from the Ubuntu community for it or not.
[05:26] <Gryllida> jesse_, they didn't package it, you will need to compile; please download it from http://www.koha.org/liblime-koha-42 and try to find a README file in the archive.
[05:27] <timClicks> I'm having trouble with a LiveUSB & a Symantec touchpad
[05:27] <Gryllida> !zh | yimfos
[05:27] <dzeremis> KM0201: I am in 10.04. My laptop's native wireless router needs some minor driver tweaking to work in 11.04, so I can't do anything useful in them right away. Looking for partition info... Will be back in a moment. Thanks for waiting patiently.
[05:27] <KM0201> J0E: 1.  it's between midnight and 2am in most of the US.. the odds of someone being on right now, that has that can answer a specific question about a specific laptop, is very very unlikely... .my suggestion, would be to download a live cd/usb, boot it, and try it.. if there's a problem, ask questions about the problem
[05:27] <Gryllida> html-inprogress, can you plese describe, what exactly do you want to host?
[05:27] <KM0201> dzeremis: you mean wireless driver?
[05:27] <timClicks> is there any way to know whether installing Ubuntu and running apt-get upgrade will help?
[05:28] <Gryllida> timClicks, please describe your issue in one line.
[05:28] <KM0201> timClicks: apt-get upgrade, will bring your install current..  what problem are you having?
[05:28] <timClicks> I'm having trouble with a LiveUSB & a Symantec touchpad on a new laptop. It's extremely jerky.
[05:29] <timClicks> is there any way to know whether installing Ubuntu and running apt-get upgrade will help?
[05:29] <J0E> KM0201: OK makes sense, I'm living on an Island in the Indian Ocean, so here its 10 am. Ok will try this Live cd/usb boot . Thx
[05:29] <KM0201> timClicks: what version of ubuntu do you have now?
[05:29] <Gryllida> timClicks, what OS you currently using, what hardware, what do you mean by 'jerky'?
[05:30] <timClicks> KM0201: 10.04
[05:30] <vetun> off_,
[05:30] <timClicks> Gryllida: a HP Pavilion dm1
[05:30] <timClicks> Gryllida: by jerky, the cursor will jump accross the screen in a seemingly random fashion
[05:31] <dzeremis> KM0201: Still here, working on it.
[05:31] <KM0201> dzeremis: thats fine, i'll be here for a little bit.. not going anywhere
[05:32] <dzeremis> KM0201: Thanks very much for sticking around and sticking with me.
[05:32] <Mendax> timClicks: stupid question no other parts of your hand is touching it?
[05:32] <KM0201> Mendax: lol
[05:32] <timClicks> Mendax: No. That's a good question. I've also cleaned the touchpad a few times just in case
[05:34] <alexleon> :) all what u have to do is ctrl + alt + f1
[05:34] <nomego> Hi guys, just installed gnome 3 and don't find any appearance settings anywhere, where do I look?
[05:35] <rww> nomego: 1) GNOME 3 is not officially supported by any released Ubuntu version, and is thus not supported in this channel. 2) click your name and then click the settings-related option, and also install gnome-tweak-tool
[05:35] <Gryllida> timClicks, does it happen with another OS?
[05:35] <nomego> rww, thank you
[05:36] <timClicks> Gryllida: No. Windows 7 works flawlessly.
[05:36] <nomego> rww, so where would I turn for information about gnome 3 in ubuntu by gnome3-team ?
[05:36] <dzeremis> KM0201: I've (installed and) opened Gparted. It looks like /dev/sda1 (65G of a 120G HD) is my Ubuntu 10.04 partition. Everything else (there are a bunch) looks like it's under /dev/sda2, Extended.
[05:36] <jhansonxi> timClicks: See this forum post:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1739152
[05:36] <rww> nomego: nowhere, that PPA isn't supported
[05:36] <html-inprogress> Gryllida, like ubuntu one/drox box ....  for myself, or for the commuinty to use ,,, if i can get it running get enough
[05:36] <timClicks> jhansonxi: ty
[05:36] <alexleon> :( i think im going back to windows
[05:37] <dzeremis> KM0201: How can I make absolutely certain of which partition houses my 10.04 data? It would be the partition I am currently using. I'm just not sure how to verify, to make absolutely sure. Ideas?
[05:37] <Gryllida> html-inprogress, so, file sharing; I'll search on that if I can.
[05:37] <KM0201> dzeremis: hang on
[05:37] <quaisi> dzremis: I use gparted to check
[05:37] <dzeremis> KM0201: Okay.
[05:37] <KM0201> quaisi: the problem is, he's got 3 different ubuntu installs, so he's not sure which is which.
[05:37] <dzeremis> quaisi: I am in Gparted but don't know the program very well. Could you tell me how you would check?
[05:38] <buddha_> dzeremis: if you can't unmount it in gparted its your current partition
[05:38] <quaisi> ah ok i got in there late it seems :)
[05:38] <KM0201> quaisi: yeah.
[05:38] <buddha_> right-click and select unmount
[05:38] <KM0201> well, thats a good point... if he's on his current partition, he won't be able to unmoun tit
[05:38] <alexleon> can i set up a wi fi printer with ubuntu?
[05:38] <buddha_> yup
[05:38] <dzeremis> KM0201 and quaisi: Thank you both. :-) It looks like what it may have done is saw the size of the partition in half. There are multiple sub-partitions under /dev/sda2.
[05:39] <buddha_> alexleon: what kind of printer?
[05:39] <oscalation> whats the channel for ubuntu off topic chat
[05:39] <rww> oscalation: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:39] <oscalation> rww, thanks
[05:39] <KM0201> dzeremis: ok... can you unmount sda1..?
[05:39] <KM0201> or do you get an error?
[05:40] <ParadigmUltra> Dang, this is messed up.  My virtual win7 is blue screening me :-(
[05:40] <alexleon> samsung clx-318fw color all in one
[05:40] <KM0201> ParadigmUltra: lol, there's something that makes me laugh about that. (but its happened to me w/ XP before)
[05:40] <dzeremis> KM0201: I've been using Ubuntu for a while without delving into the code of it. I'm not computer-ignorant, but I don't know how to do that properly. Should I do it in command line?
[05:41] <dzeremis> KM0201: Or in Gparted?
[05:41] <KM0201> dzeremis: no.. you're on 10.04 now, right?
[05:41] <Gryllida> html-inprogress, I think you could just install an ftp server for that if you really want to host (just sharing via obuntuone/dropbox is much easirt though); to see how to install ftp, search 'ftp' in software center; I'm not sure, maybe channel comes up with better ideas.
[05:41] <dzeremis> KM0201: Yes, I am. I am in 10.04 with both root command line and Gparted open.
[05:41] <Raptors> Does anyone here who uses openshot know how to turn off the annoying white outline on the title?
[05:41] <KM0201> dzeremis: ok... what is sda1.. is it ext4?.. whats the mount point
[05:42] <html-inprogress> Gryllida,  not just that   , like you can use it with xchat
[05:42] <ParadigmUltra> lol, I'm going to have to chkdsk my virtual drive. heh
[05:42] <KM0201> lol
[05:42] <dzeremis> KM0201: It is ext4. THe mount point is /. Before attempting to install 11.04, I only had one main partition for 10.04.
[05:42] <KM0201> dzeremis: ok.. try to unmount that partition, and see if you get an error that it cannot be unmounted
[05:42] <Gryllida> html-inprogress, use what with xchat?
[05:43] <dzeremis> KM0201: I am guessing to go ahead and try unmounting in Gparted?
[05:43] <buddha_> alexleon: it seems it is possible. Try this link http://foo2qpdl.rkkda.com/
[05:43] <html-inprogress> Gryllida,  so how do you make a cloud ?
[05:43] <KM0201> dzeremis: yes, right click sda1, and choose unmount
[05:43] <KM0201> see if you get an error.
[05:43] <dzeremis> KM0201: Will do. One moment, please.
[05:43] <KM0201> (i'm assuming you don't have programs/files open on the other partitions at the moment.
[05:44] <dzeremis> KM0201: No, everything else is closed down as far as I know. I can see the partitions from within 10.04, but I don't think there's a thing active on them.
[05:44] <dzeremis> KM0201: It would not let me unmount /dev/sda1.
[05:44] <KM0201> ok..
[05:44] <Gryllida> html-inprogress, sorry, I don't see what you want; please ask the channel (not me) and describe your purpose.
[05:44] <KM0201> then thats very likely your 10.04 partition... you have a swap partition?
[05:45] <alexleon> pff i dont understand i need step by step :D is it hard?
[05:45] <fizyplankton> has anyone else been having major issues with facebook lately? im on 10.04, using both chrome and firefox, and it hasnt worked for me in months. its really starting to piss me off
[05:45] <Gryllida> fizyplankton, what's the problem?
[05:45] <dzeremis> KM0201: Naturally, there should be a swap partition. When installing, unsure how to go about it, I just let the installer pick out how to reconfigure the partitions, aware that I did not want to delete my original partition. (...)
[05:46] <KM0201> dzeremis: ok.. this machine doesn't have windows on it does it?
[05:46] <KM0201> since sda1 is /  i'm guessing windows isn't on this machine
[05:46] <fizyplankton> Gryllida: since i hate my old account (long story), i was trying to create a new one. but when i hit submit, nothing happens. when i log into my old account, the home page loads, but nothing else loads
[05:47] <dzeremis> KM0201: (I'll be telling you about the swap partition momentarily.) No, this machine is Windows-free, except that I have Vista installed on this partition under Oracle VM VirtualBox. I don't suffer Windows to have that kind of status on my machine. :-)
[05:47] <Gryllida> fizyplankton, what happens when it 'doesnt load'/
[05:47] <Gryllida> ?
[05:47] <buddha_> alexleon: that link is a little old, here's one that's about 6 months newer: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-453362.html
[05:48] <fizyplankton> Gryllida: the 3 little bars next to the sign up button start flashine (but that doesnt mean anything. its just a .gif animation). then nothing else at all happns
[05:48] <Raptors> Does anyone here who uses openshot know how to turn off the annoying white outline on the title?
[05:48] <KM0201> dzeremis: ok... and i just wanna verify what you've told me so far.. you have 10.04, and two, 11.04 installs, and you want the 11.04 installs, basically deleted, so you can make 1... and you have a current cd.. right?
[05:48] <KM0201> curreint 11.04 cd, that is
[05:48] <dzeremis> KM0201: Naturally, there is a swap partition. I'm not sure how the partition groundwork was laid before, but currently the swap partition is under /dev/sda2 (extended, mount point unspecified). That is to say, the swap is at /dev/sda5 (linux-swap, mount point unspecified), under /dev/sda2.
[05:48] <alexleon> buddha thank u
[05:49] <buddha_> no problemo
[05:49] <KM0201> dzeremis: ok, so if you delete that extended partition, it's gonna delete all that crap, right?
[05:49] <dzeremis> KM0201: I have 10.04 and two 11.04 installs. Each of the three appears to have its own partition. I want to delete the 11.04 installs and then reinstall one. I would prefer to keep my 10.04 data and integrate in into 11.04, and I have the current 11.04 install CD handy.
[05:50] <dzeremis> KM0201: Yes, I believe that is so, except I wonder what to do about the swap partition. But indeed, that partition is just crap!
[05:50] <alexleon> buddha u know if there is any problem with video calls with skype from windows to ubuntu??
[05:50] <KM0201> dzeremis: we'll create a new swap w/ the 11.04 installer
[05:50] <KM0201> just delete the whole extended partition.
[05:51] <dzeremis> Okay, that sounds fine. My 10.04, with which I am talking to you, will keep functioning once I delete the partition?
[05:51] <buddha_> alexleon: no idea I don't use skype. try it out
[05:51] <dzeremis> KM0201: I ask because I see no other swap partition.
[05:51] <KM0201> dzeremis: thats fine, like i said, we'll deal w/ it when we install 11.04
[05:52] <alexleon> k buddha
[05:52] <KM0201> alexleon: some video cameras do not work well w/ skype... i don't have a camera, but my audio works pretty good.
[05:52] <dzeremis> Okay. I just want to let you know that I don't really have a way to talk to you during the 11.04 installation, except perhaps if we get my Android phone onto Freenode. Just a moment while I delete the wacky partition.
[05:53] <KM0201> dzeremis: ok, then i would try to get here w/ your android, or if you want, you can IM me on AIM or MSN
[05:53] <dzeremis> KM0201: Interestingly, Gparted doesn't give me the option to kill the /dev/sda2, or its underlying partitions.
[05:53] <buddha_> swapoff
[05:53] <KM0201> dzeremis: try expanding the sda2... and kill the partitions one at a time.
[05:53] <alexleon> km0201 empathy also make audio calls with live messenger but video calls doesnt work :(.
[05:54] <KM0201> alexleon: well, empathy also sucks.. so..
[05:54] <KM0201> it's a tradeoff
[05:54] <dzeremis> KM0201: Both sound good. What program would you recommend for Android? If you could give me AIM as a back-up, that would also be helpful.
[05:54] <alexleon> i need video calls working then i can keep ubuntu
[05:54] <fizyplankton> dzeremis: if you are using the partition, like if it is your currently booted os, then gparted cant edit them
[05:54] <i2iot> My system has been freezing a lot since I installed ubuntu, is there anything I can do when my cursor stops and my computer is unresponsive besides holding down the power button?
[05:54] <KM0201> dzeremis: i'm about to PM you my AIM handle...
[05:55] <KM0201> dzeremis: i'm not familiar w/ droids, so i can't help you on a droid irc client.. i just PMd you my AIM name
[05:55]  * dzeremis will be right back.
[05:55] <dzeremis> Thanks to all of you for your help so far.
[05:56] <mynotes> i'm using ubuntu 10.10. how do  i know if the application running on my machine.
[05:56] <fizyplankton> dzeremis: androirc is a good free irc client. you have to use wifi tho. vzw (not sure about others) blocks irc thru 3g
[05:56] <KM0201> alexleon: have you tried installing skype, and seeing if video works?
[05:57] <mynotes> i'm using ubuntu10.10. how to check if the specific application running on my machine
[05:57] <alexleon> km0201 no ill do it tomorrow im going to sleep
[05:57] <KM0201> lol, ok
[05:57] <KM0201> mynotes: what specific application?
[05:57] <alexleon> bye ppl
[05:57] <buddha_> cya
[05:58] <mynotes> KM0201: ruby
[05:58] <alexleon> km0201 ill tell u what happens if i see u here :)
[05:58] <alexleon> byez
[05:58] <KM0201> mynotes: top should show if its running...
[05:58] <KM0201> alexleon: ok, good luck
[05:58] <KM0201> mynotes: just open a terminal and type "top" and hit enter, no quotes
[05:58] <sd> i2iot i'm not sure but i had same problem from a usb stick so i went to local bookstore and bought a couple of linux magazines that had linux installs on disk ran it from disk so i'm thinking might be the install maybe need to make a newer better copy but not sure?
[05:58] <buddha_> or ps aux | grep ruby
[05:59] <KM0201> ^ that to.
[05:59] <mynotes> buddha_:thanks how to stop the application ?
[05:59] <mynotes> i see that ruby is running
[06:00] <buddha_> if you want hard kill 'killall ruby'
[06:00] <KM0201> kill kill kill... what makes the grass grow.. blood blood blood.. :)
[06:00] <KM0201> i alwasy think of that when people talk about "killall"
[06:01] <buddha_> mynotes: otherwise, get the PID and do 'kill -9 yourPIDhere'
[06:01]  * dzeremis is back on the computer.
[06:02] <mynotes> buddha_: how to get PID
[06:03] <buddha_> mynotes: it should be a four number ID from the 'ps aux | grep ruby' info
[06:04] <mynotes> buddha_: thanks I got it
[06:04] <sd> dang linux magazines cost me almost $17.00 and $20.00 wow
[06:05] <KM0201> sd: you actually pay for those?
[06:05] <buddha_> cool beans
[06:05] <sd> yep
[06:05] <sd> linux user and linux format
[06:06] <sd> those are the names of the current magazines
[06:06] <buddha_> you don't buy linux magazines
[06:06] <sd> i know but i wanted these issues for some reason
[06:06] <buddha_> you put them inside the cover of a Steal This Book and run out of the store laughing.
[06:07] <KM0201> .. hmm, i wasn't advocating stealing either.
[06:07] <KM0201> lol
[06:07] <sd> right.....lol
[06:08] <buddha_> hey, who was just talking about blood feeding the grass
[06:08]  * dzeremis is in the middle of intense efforts and will be away from the channel for a bit. Thanks for the support and talk to you soon. I appreciate every bit of help.
[06:09] <KM0201> buddha_: thats a line from a movie..lol
[06:09] <buddha_> I know I'm just gvin you shit
[06:09] <KM0201> lol
[06:10] <aarcane> how to debootstrap a whole ubuntu server install ?
[06:18] <buddha_> anybody need any help?
[06:19] <KM0201> o/
[06:20] <buddha_> I just fubard my Arch partition trying to install Zenix. anyone got suggestions for a new distro?
[06:22] <aarcane> buddha_, try fedora.
[06:23] <buddha_> aarcane: should have mentioned I have an old (7 years) laptop. so no Gnome3 or Unity 3D for me.
[06:24] <aarcane> buddha_, O
[06:24] <buddha_> yeah, im thinking CRUX or gentoo
[06:24] <aarcane> buddha_, I'm just being facetious.  you nuked Arch for Zenix, and asked #ubuntu for ideas, so I suggested another non-sequiter distro for you.
[06:25] <KM0201> buddha_: how much ram does that system have?
[06:25] <buddha_> 1.5GB with room for 2!
[06:25] <KM0201> buddha_: http://www.lubuntu.net    if you like ubuntu, but just hate unity/gnome 3  you won't regret it.
[06:25] <KM0201> it's awesome
[06:26] <aarcane> I'd love a nice gnome-3 based distro, but ubuntu switched to unity, and it sucks.
[06:26] <Peddy> I'm experiencing glitched/choppy sound in 11.04. Is this a known problem? it fixes when I reboot
[06:26] <buddha_> aarcane: yeah, true on both posts
[06:26] <KM0201> aarcane: opensuse and fedora, to my knowledge, are the only gnome 3 distros right now.
[06:26] <buddha_> arch too
[06:26] <KM0201> yea, but arch is... arch
[06:26] <ahmtfth> hey all
[06:26] <buddha_> hey there
[06:26] <buhman> 'restarting' sshd doesn't seem to do anything; how can I tell sshd to drop all connections?
[06:27] <sd> oh and i like openSuSe
[06:27] <i2iot> how do i change the webcam settings on ubuntu?
[06:27] <aarcane> KM0201, yes, arch is awsome, but it lacks some basic common sense niceties of apt, so I had to give it up after having to recursively list an entire directory to not have it nuke my configs...
[06:27] <aarcane> buhman, kill -9 ?
[06:27] <KM0201> aarcane: lol
[06:27] <buhman> aarcane: the question is which process(s) ?
[06:27] <aarcane> buhman, but be careful...
[06:27] <kylemcgill> buhman: whhy dont you ssh into the machine then restart sshd?
[06:28] <kylemcgill> And see if you ssh connection dies
[06:28] <buhman> kylemcgill: I tried that; it doesn't
[06:28] <kylemcgill> also you can netstat then grep port 22
[06:28] <kylemcgill> cant think of the netstat flag that you will need though sorry
[06:29] <kylemcgill> if you want to find out who is still on the machine type who
[06:29] <kylemcgill> or "w"
[06:29] <aarcane> buhman, it doesn't close existing sessions for a reason.  if it did, you could almost never restart SSHD, because when you do, you'd get disconnected, and the command to restart sshd would never run from the init script.  you want new sessions to occur in their own time.  trust the TENS OF YEARS of experience that went into making that decision.
[06:29] <kpolinar> hi guys!
[06:29] <buddha_> Peddy: what's the deal now?
[06:30] <Peddy> buddha_, what do you mean?
[06:30] <kylemcgill> aarcane: +1
[06:30] <kpolinar> I'm new to ubuntu and just installed xampp using this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=cc9b01005f7f7f99a2189c48f3346ee3&t=223410
[06:30] <Zombie> Excuse me.
[06:30] <buhman> I guess I should have been more specific; I was also doing reverse port-forwarding, and now those ports still seem to be bound and I can't bind anything else to them
[06:31] <Zombie> Do you know how to roll back a rogue or crashing apt-get update to a prior version?
[06:31] <buhman> And there's lots of ssh's running, but w only shows my login
[06:31] <buddha_> so you said that you get glitchy sound, is there an obvious reason for this that you can see, like is there one specific action that you do?
[06:31] <buhman> sshd's
[06:31] <buhman> http://paste.pound-python.org/show/9053/
[06:31] <sd> 1 other thing i noticied when installing 11.04 is that it would be easy to skip through the install when getting to the timezone you can still click forward
[06:32] <kylemcgill> buhman: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/killing-an-ssh-session-339440/ couple with who and you should be ok
[06:32] <Peddy> buddha_, I think the problem arises randomly, or sometimes when I watch flash videos. It's hard to reproduce but goes away with a reboot.
[06:32] <wildbat> buhman: why don't you kill all the sshd ?
[06:32] <aarcane> buhman, so you want the netstat | grep, however, I don't remember the netstat flag either.  try man netstat
[06:32] <buddha_> hmm
[06:32] <buhman> wildbat: haha
[06:32] <aarcane> wildbat, we've been through that.  bad idea.
[06:32] <buhman> wildbat: umm how about no
[06:32] <aarcane> buhman, if all else fails, sudo shutdown -r now; exit; will fix your problem.
[06:33] <mcurran> sudo halt
[06:33] <buhman> aarcane: I'd rather not; I don't have physical access to this machine...
[06:33] <buhman> aarcane: easy physical access
[06:33] <buddha_> Peddy: does it affect removable media ie DVDs or just internet content?
[06:33] <aarcane> mcurran, again, halt is a bad idea.  the -r makes it reboot automatically.
[06:33] <wildbat> aarcane: why is that?
[06:33] <mcurran> sudo reboot then
[06:33] <Peddy> buddha_, all the sound that comes through my speakers, including DVDs and digital audio and flash video and movies
[06:33] <CruX|> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/git_1%3a1.7.4.1-3~ppa1~lucid3_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[06:34] <buhman> aarcane: I would loose all access to that machine; terrible idea
[06:34] <aarcane> wildbat, his own connection would be dropped, and no new sshds would spawn.
[06:34] <buhman> wildbat: ^
[06:34] <aarcane> anyway, goodnight.
[06:34] <buhman> aarcane: thanks
[06:34] <CruX|> /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst: 12: dpkg-maintscript-helper: not found
[06:34] <mcurran> yeah, unless you add a ssh init script for startup
[06:34] <CruX|> is this also in ubuntu or its debian only ?
[06:34] <aarcane> mcurran, that's why he wants shutdown -r now;
[06:34] <mcurran> and have autostartup enabled so there is no login beforehand
[06:34] <CruX|> i have ppa repos and this is probably bug
[06:35] <kamada_> sir can i ask something?
[06:35] <buhman> mcurran: "autostartup"?
[06:35] <kamada_> why ubuntu is no refresh?
[06:35] <wildbat> aarcane: i think the upstart will respwn the sshd ~
[06:35] <mcurran> like for instance, not all distros have an automated login, so you would have to login and then do a startx
[06:35] <buddha_> Peddy: that's weird.
[06:35] <aarcane> wildbat, test it and let us know, I'm going to bed.
[06:35] <wildbat> aarcane: tested
[06:36] <mcurran> as long as you have startup already enabled with ubuntu or tty, you should be good
[06:36] <kylemcgill> buddha, you should just kill all SSH sessions by pid
[06:36] <mcurran> I'm not sure, but you probably could just issue a update-rc.d ssh defaults if there's already an item in init.d for ssh
[06:37] <kylemcgill> if yours is killed then ssh back up and continue, that would be the short answer
[06:37] <buhman> mcurran: then again there's also the possibilty my bios battery would die when I reboot... that's happened before (I'm too lazy to buy a new one)
[06:37] <kylemcgill> its not ideal, but it will work
[06:37] <mcurran> yeah, that would be better
[06:37] <mcurran> oh come on
[06:37] <astraljava> CruX|: Yes, looks like the PPA package has a bug. PPA packages in general don't have official support, so please find the maintainers of the archive and ask for help there.
[06:38] <buddha_> Peddy: looks like a known bug with a workaround: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/778141
[06:38] <mcurran> bios firmware defaulting shouldn't effect any ssh startup scripts anyways
[06:38] <buhman> mcurran: I'm talking about rebooting the whole machine
[06:38] <mcurran> why do you want to reboot anyways?
[06:38] <kylemcgill> buhman: is the server not in a datacenter?
[06:39] <buhman> kylemcgill: not really
[06:39] <CruX|> astraljava: thx
[06:39] <buhman> kylemcgill: it's in a room in another building that I don't have the key to
[06:39] <kylemcgill> ahh i see
[06:39] <buhman> mcurran: I thought that was your suggestion
[06:40] <Peddy> buddha_, was the workaround to restart pulseaudio? because I did that, and it hasn't changed anything
[06:40] <buhman> mcurran: err no you're the one that said halt...
[06:40] <kylemcgill> lol
[06:41] <kylemcgill> buhman: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/167/list-the-number-and-type-of-active-network-connections
[06:41] <kylemcgill> this will help you to find ssh connections
[06:41] <kylemcgill> active ones
[06:43] <buhman> kylemcgill: that doesn't work
[06:43] <buddha_> Peddy: yeah that was the workaround. Are you sure your graphics card is beefy enough to provide Unity 3D and smooth audio? (just a stupid question to get it out of the way)
[06:44] <buhman> kylemcgill: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/9054/
[06:44] <buhman> kylemcgill: I'm still a little puzzled on which sshd's go where
[06:44] <buhman> kylemcgill: should I be killing the not "connected" ones?
[06:44] <buhman> kylemcgill: I know I don't have that many active connections...
[06:45] <kylemcgill> buhman: are you logged in as zack?
[06:45] <buhman> kylemcgill: yes
[06:45] <kylemcgill> buhman: does anyone else login as zack?
[06:45] <buhman> kylemcgill: I do
[06:45] <buhman> kylemcgill: multiple connections from multiple machines
[06:45] <buhman> kylemcgill: some of those are just reverse-port forwards
[06:46] <kylemcgill> buhman: ok so we assume that no other connections are made by others apart from webserver calls then
[06:46] <Peddy> buddha_, yeah, definitely. Even when I disable unity, it doesn't work. Funnily enough, it starts working even after I suspend (sleep) then resume the machine
[06:46] <kylemcgill> buhman: you would be the only one on the machine, and you wish to kill all other ssh connections logged in under zack, would that be correct?
[06:47] <buhman> kylemcgill: yeah, I don't care about the legitimate connections; they can be killed too
[06:47] <netdemon> holaaaaaaaaaa
[06:47] <kylemcgill> This will log you out but you can log back in and it doesnt effect sshd if it is running under root
[06:48] <buhman> kylemcgill: basically if we could somehow kill every sshd except for the one that I'm currently using...
[06:48] <kylemcgill> pkill -u `whoami`
[06:48] <kylemcgill> oh
[06:48] <netdemon> i
[06:48] <netdemon> i have a question
[06:48] <buddha_> Peddy: that's a strange one.
[06:48] <buhman> kylemcgill: I remember doing pkill -u "root" once... not a good idea :)
[06:48] <buddha_> netdemon: fire away
[06:48] <thunder1212> hi
[06:48] <gdance> Hey everyone! I am just switching from Ubuntu to mac and I am copying my files over to an external hardrive and gnome has frozen during the file copy. I can still get into the virtual terminals and all that but I don't know how to tell if the file copy finished or not.
[06:49] <kylemcgill> buhman: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/disconnect-idle-ssh-sessions-596009/
[06:49] <netdemon> well i cant speak very well english but i will try it
[06:49] <kylemcgill> assuming they are inactive
[06:49] <buddha_> go for it
[06:49] <fuzzybunny69y> does anyone know what I could do to get it to resume
[06:49] <buddha_> gdance: 'jobs -l' give you anything?
[06:49] <fuzzybunny69y> there was only 13 minutes left in the copy
[06:50] <netdemon> look....i have installed ubuntu 10.10 and it work very very very good but when i install ubuntu 11.04 its a........well it never works.....i cant use compiz......and a lot of programs cant work
[06:50] <fuzzybunny69y> hmmm
[06:50] <kylemcgill> fuzzybunny69y: what about you ps aux | grep cp
[06:50] <fuzzybunny69y> that jobs -l doesn't list anything
[06:50] <rtbt> scroll = OFF
[06:50] <buhman> kylemcgill: that looks like a bad idea
[06:50] <rtbt> damn.
[06:50] <thunder1212> i use ubuntu 10.04, i want to restrict access to usb drives and cd drives on the pc.. what should i do?
[06:50] <sd> netdemon they have other ubuntu language channels if anyone can direct him right language channel i don't know what they all are
[06:50] <rtbt> my scroll is failing on irssi
[06:50] <rtbt> any ideas?
[06:50] <kylemcgill> buhman: killing inactive sessions?
[06:50] <buhman> kylemcgill: I did the pkill -u but I don't think that exactly worked
[06:51] <kylemcgill> pkill -u zack would be the full command
[06:51] <buhman> kylemcgill: of course ^
[06:51] <fuzzybunny69y> hmmm
[06:51] <buddha_> Peddy: sorry I can't help more. That seems well beyond the scope of my minimal knowledge. I assume it is a bug that has to be fixed
[06:51] <fuzzybunny69y> maybe I will just recopy it or something
[06:51] <fuzzybunny69y> Gnome is so annoying it keeps doing that
[06:51] <haux> Can someone tell me what the application name for Sun JVM would be in apt-get?
[06:51] <fuzzybunny69y> it happens daily
[06:52] <fuzzybunny69y> my mouse still moves
[06:52] <fuzzybunny69y> but whenever I click on anything it doesn't respond
[06:52] <netdemon> thunder1212 you only need to edit the users rigths you need to go to administration->group and users and you need to put the righs thah you want to have the users of your system
[06:52] <buddha_> netdemon +1
[06:52] <Peddy>  that's alright buddha_ thanks for your help!
[06:53] <buddha_> happy to try
[06:53] <fuzzybunny69y> thanks anyway guys
[06:53] <sd> fuzzybunny69y my mouse does that to but the laptop mouse pad near near the keyboard does not help
[06:54] <fuzzybunny69y> hmmm
[06:54] <netdemon> doe s
[06:54] <fuzzybunny69y> yeah i dunno what is wrong with it
[06:54] <fuzzybunny69y> im just going to switch
[06:54] <fuzzybunny69y> and use ubuntu as a server
[06:54] <netdemon> does anyone have some av in ubuntu?
[06:54] <buhman> kylemcgill: and my ices, application server, and current bash sessions, but the orphaned sshd's seem to still be lingering...
[06:54] <kylemcgill> buhman: sorry i dont know of any other way to help without killing your own sessions, unless you were to somehow block all IP's apart from yours
[06:54] <fuzzybunny69y> the desktop stuff is too buggy and annoying
[06:55] <buddha_> netdemon: if you want it there is clam av
[06:55] <ManateeLazyCat> Hi all, have any program/tool convert between .debian and .po file? Thanks.
[06:55] <buhman> kylemcgill: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/9055/
[06:55] <astraljava> haux: If you're inclined to using apt-get, here's a good tip for the future: `apt-cache search <search_term>`, but that would be sun-java6-jre in this case.
[06:55] <netdemon> yes i know it....the reason its because a i came from windows and i cant forget the avs software je ej
[06:56] <buhman> kylemcgill: I thought root owned sshd... so that wouldn't really work I don't think
[06:56] <astraljava> haux: Depending on your ubuntu release, of course.
[06:56] <fuzzybunny69y> cya guys
[06:57] <fuzzybunny69y> i love you all
[06:57] <thunder1212> so i go to users and groups > advance settings> user priviliges> ? then what options should i uncheck
[06:57] <haux> astraljava, I don't really have a preference, but I appear to be having some difficulties installing it otherwise. I remember Ubuntu being so easy... I just installed the latest 11.x and am already running into problems.
[06:57] <haux> astraljava, so I was looking for a more automated way to install it.
[06:57] <kylemcgill> buhman: root does, however if you want to keep your current session open its not like you can pipe the username across, which is present in the netstat, so there has to be another flag to determine all running applications what streams they have, which is somewhat what we see in your pastie. However to find out which session you are currently holding is a little differcult unless a guru can help
[06:58] <netdemon> thunder1212 then you go to advanced settings,you need to put the password of the system administrator and at las you go to rigths of users........
[06:58] <buddha_> haux: search Ubuntu Software Center for jre and then install the sun-java one.
[06:58] <kylemcgill> To be honest i dont know the answer, however im really just throwing ideas in the air
[06:58] <kylemcgill> buhman: ^^
[06:59] <thunder1212> yes i did that, u mean user privileges?
[06:59] <astraljava> haux: I don't know what you mean with automated install, but `sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre` should install it for you. If it doesn't, please pastebin the errors that you're running into, and we'll take it from there.
[06:59] <netdemon> thunder1212 yes
[07:00] <haux> buddha_, the only one listed in the software center is OpenJDK
[07:00] <thunder1212> ok then i uncheck access external storage device automatically
[07:00] <buhman> kylemcgill: oh, and most of these orphans are ssh -N 's
[07:00] <buhman> kylemcgill: so that's also why the pkill didn't work
[07:00] <buddha_> thunder1212: yep
[07:01] <netdemon> haux: you need to install ubuntu restricted extras so you put sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras then you need to put sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get install jre6&&sudo apt-get install jre6-plugin
[07:01] <thunder1212> ok its that simple, wOw ;) thnx bye..
[07:01] <netdemon> thunder1212: yes
[07:01] <haux> astraljava, 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre' yields a "has no installation candidate" message.
[07:01] <Peddy> is anyone having issues with the screensaver not unlocking in 11.04?
[07:02] <haux> netdemon, I will try that.
[07:02] <netdemon> haux: ok
[07:02] <astraljava> haux: Right, you probably don't have partner repository enabled.
[07:03] <netdemon> peddy:ubuntu 11.04 its not a stable ubuntu
[07:03] <netdemon> it never works well
[07:03] <astraljava> haux: Look into that in /etc/apt/sources.list, and uncomment the line[s], then `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre`
[07:03] <Peddy> netdemon, 11.04 entered stable 2 months ago
[07:03] <harvi_svk> netdemon: why not ? Im running 11.04 with no problems
[07:04] <Noorman> i have some quirky things with 11.04
[07:04] <buddha_> Peddy: its got a lot of problems, and some people just have the right hardware or get lucky
[07:04] <buddha_> I for one run it perfectly in a virtualbox
[07:04] <sd> same here not problems with 11.04 but only after a proper install and proper video driver install
[07:04] <netdemon> i think that the best vercion its 10.10 and my computers its only 9months old
[07:05] <pratz> hey guys have any body used paydollar payment gateway, i am planning to use it , i know this is not a question related to ubuntu, still i am using python so if you want to comment on this, it is appreciated , thanks
[07:05] <buddha_> i am also a big fan of the 10.10
[07:06] <KM0201> buddha_: i didn't have to many problems w/ Unity, other than it was slow.. but i think thats cuz i've got a 1.7ghz Celeron and 1.5gig of ram... it worked, just much slower than gnome 2.x  and when i tried Gnome 3.. same thing.. thats why i just decided it was time to embrace a change
[07:06] <Peddy> there are always going to be people reporting problems in this channel, no matter the release. Using it to gauge problems with a release overall, for all users, is not accurate, because users will only come here with problems.
[07:07] <KM0201> danslo1: i thought your name was "danslol" and i was expecting a really good story on something you did during install..lol
[07:07] <buddha_> Peddy: this is the first time i've ever been on IRC. There are plenty of niggles in Natty.
[07:07] <sd> after installing 11.04 without the video driver my computer booted in classic which is basically 10.10
[07:07] <netdemon> haux: soory the command line after install ubuntu restricted extras is: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[07:07] <danslo1> KM0201: home pc hijacks original nickname :(
[07:07] <KM0201> danslo: ah...
[07:09] <KM0201> sd: unity requires 3D support... so if you don't have your 3D drivers installed, you can't use unity.
[07:09] <KM0201> sd: did you install your graphics drivers?
[07:09] <buddha_> KM0201: yeah I just can't run the unity. my hardware is too old. oh well, ratpoison it is.
[07:09] <sd> yeah i did that's why im not in classic
[07:10] <netdemon> sd:the best vercion i think its ubuntu classic..............
[07:10] <KM0201> buddha_: hup.
[07:10] <KM0201> ok..
[07:10] <netdemon> the newest desktops like gnome 3 and unity are very heavy for the system
[07:10] <haux> Ok, I uncommented two listings for "Canonical's 'partner' repository", updated, and tried sun-java6-jre again.  This time it worked. Installing now.
[07:11] <netdemon> haux:;)
[07:11] <confezzor> it's cause they found a big in the kernel that unity is sucking up to much power
[07:11] <confezzor> but they are going to fix that soon
[07:11] <netdemon> confezzor:that error its resolved yet
[07:11] <buddha_> and then maybe people can start donating to Phoronix for finding the regressions
[07:11] <netdemon> do you want to telol you the solve
[07:11] <netdemon> ?
[07:12] <confezzor> ok cool..thanks for the heads up
[07:12] <netdemon> weel the soplve of that error its this:
[07:13] <sd> i heard 12.04 is gonna be way better than 10.10 and LTS something that i heard earlier in xchat
[07:14] <confezzor> cause of waylane...
[07:14] <confezzor> i know i'm spelling it wrong
[07:14] <haux> Alright, so, how do I execute a .jar file?
[07:14] <confezzor> use java..
[07:14] <netdemon> confezzor here its the solve you only need to put this command at the boot time :pcie_aspm=force
[07:14] <Dr_Willis_> java -jar foo.jar
[07:15] <haux> Awesome, thanks.
[07:15] <confezzor> oh ok sweet netdemon....good to know..i'm going to write that down now
[07:15] <buddha_> yeah I herd 12.04 is gonna ship with 600 new desktop environments and will be able to program you to the moon and it has a squillion supported hardware setups.
[07:16] <sd> lol
[07:16] <buddha_> if you have an intel graphics card
[07:16] <sd> have to wait and see i guess
[07:16] <confezzor> well if you don't have intel i say you are WRONG lol
[07:17] <sd> nope using amd athlon :(
[07:17] <netdemon> buddha:when the newest vewrcion of linux linux3 como there will be a better support for intel graphics card
[07:18] <buddha_> netdemon: I was referring to the fact that only Intel graphics cards support Unity out of the box ( I believe)
[07:18] <haux> Well, I've got another unrelated question. It used to be, back in Ubuntu v9 and 10, that programs like Pidgin and X-Chat would have icons in the system tray. Now they don't... is there a way to re-enable this in 11.04?
[07:18] <buddha_> yep
[07:18] <buddha_> but
[07:19] <buddha_> you have to install some application
[07:19] <buddha_> and I don't know what it's called
[07:19] <buddha_> so its possible
[07:19] <haux> Hm
[07:19] <netdemon> budda:that depends of the aplication
[07:20] <buddha_> yeah but i've seen setups of unity to look like Gnome2
[07:20] <buddha_> its just that Unity doesn't have any serious configuration tools in vanilla natty.
[07:21] <haux> Yeah, I am not liking unity very much right now...
[07:21] <haux> Everything is so much more inconvenient..
[07:21] <netdemon> haux:if you want you can run ubuntu classic with compiz and you need to activate the plugin unity of compiz when you run ubuntu classical and that icons will return back at the system tray
[07:21] <sd> buddha_: so if you don't have an intel graphics card, like i am using nVidia geforce 7000m laptop graphics card is reason i had to setup for the 3d unity?
[07:22] <buddha_> sd: yep yep. I had to do it for VBox with nvidia-current, tried for Gnome3 on Fedora, gave up after many hours
[07:23] <netdemon> i ate gnome 3 i love gnome 2.XX
[07:23] <netdemon> hate
[07:23] <netdemon> xD
[07:23] <sd> k i'll remember that in the next ubuntu install
[07:23] <netdemon> well i need to go out....good luck everybody
[07:23] <buddha_> k
[07:24] <sd> same here i'm tired night all
[07:24] <confezzor> gnome 3 isn't that bad..natty is way worse
[07:24] <buddha_> night
[07:24] <Dr_Willis_> ill stay with lxde for now
[07:25] <confezzor> i like gnome 3...but going to stick with gnome 2 for now unit natty and gnome 3 gets in like version 2 or 3
[07:25] <confezzor> yea
[07:25] <mecheese> hi. what's the terminal commands to get firefox 5
[07:25] <Dr_Willis_> !ff5
[07:25] <confezzor> i think you can just down load it at the site
[07:25] <buddha_> confezzor: I agree, just trying to get gnome3 with Fedora freedom craziness to work with nvidia is a hassle.
[07:26] <Dr_Willis_> use the ppa
[07:26] <mecheese> ubottu: I can't use natty because it's messing with my monitor
[07:26] <confezzor> well i'm not a big Fedora fan..to me Fedora is a baster child of linux..sorry to say buddha...but putting gnome 3 on top of unity works better
[07:27] <Delta_> I installed chromium and want to install a chromium theme from a local file. How do I do that??
[07:27] <thebomb> Hi?
[07:27] <haux> installing compiz now...
[07:27] <buddha_> hey there
[07:27] <Dr_Willis_> Delta_:   drag n drop it into chrome
[07:27] <Dr_Willis_> perhaps
[07:28] <mecheese> ubottu: I'm only cheese. so you're in good company.
[07:28] <confezzor> lol
[07:28] <buddha_> thebomb: do you have a question or problem?
[07:29] <mecheese> can any one give me some terminal commands to install firefox 5 on lucid
[07:30] <Dr_Willis_> the webupd8 site had some info on it mecheese
[07:30] <Michael88_> hello ppl, i have a problem with my ubuntu server :( on boot it's not auto starting the services apache2, webmin etc. i tried rcconf and it's not working
[07:30] <confezzor> anybody knows a good tv tuner to use for mythbuntu..trying to use it on one of my laptops..just want to know if anyone knows what hardware should i use?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis_> webmin can break things
[07:31] <Dr_Willis_> !webmin
[07:31] <mecheese> Dr_Willis: what webupd8 site? *confused*
[07:31] <buddha_> mecheese: 'sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable'
[07:31] <buddha_> without quotes
[07:31] <buddha_> then
[07:32] <Dr_Willis_> mecheese:  eneter the name in a browser
[07:32] <confezzor> ppa for firefox 5 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[07:32] <haux> buddha_, is dconf-editor the program you were thinking of?
[07:32] <Michael88_> oook, so how do i remove webmin from services autorun? because i cant, what file do i edit with nano or vi?
[07:32] <confezzor> yea opps you beat me to the punch
[07:32] <buddha_> mecheese: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:33] <buddha_> haux: maybe? sorry I don't use natty
[07:33] <Dr_Willis_> Michael88_:  how did you install webmin?
[07:34] <Michael88_> i added  to source list and then with apt-get
[07:34] <Dr_Willis_> remove it with aptget then
[07:35] <Michael88_> ok
[07:35] <Dr_Willis_> and hope it did not break too much
[07:35] <mecheese> thank you buddha
[07:35] <buddha_> no problem
[07:39] <buddha_> hey haux: maybe ccms is what you need? Unity does use Compiz after all.
[07:41] <ugly_duck> passwords for linux are typically between null and 8 yeah?
[07:41] <buddha_> alright peoples I got class in less than 6 hours. Knighty night.
[07:41] <confezzor> night buddha
[07:42] <Gryllida> ugly_duck, may be even longer than that if you like.
[07:42] <Gryllida> Spacewalker, hi.
[07:42] <Spacewalker> hey Gryllida
[07:48] <Michael88_> i uninstalled webmin but it still remains in the runlevel list
[07:48] <Michael88_> ant apache2 .... etc ar still not starting at boot
[07:48] <Michael88_> and*
[07:49] <astraljava> ugly_duck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[07:53] <royale1223> why do i get a 403 when trying to access apache2 root? perms are 755
[07:55] <mjanp> Hi, I've got a question: will Marvell 9123/9120 SATA III controller work well on Ubuntu 11.04 x64? Or where can i find help?
[07:56] <xmaz> mjanp: call the manufacturer
[07:56] <orchata> HI guys, I used the option to encrypt my home folder on fresh install of 11.04.   Now I don't want it. What is the easiest way to remove it
[07:56] <mjanp> thx xmaz
[07:56] <beli> royale1223: who is owner of the root-dir? the webserver  user or group must have permissions
[07:57] <royale1223> mjanp: like chown :webserver public_html?
[07:57] <pierre__> pierremillet;
[07:58] <LilleCarl> beli you can change as you want, but root is owner to everything ;)
[07:58] <LilleCarl> beli the command chown changes owner (man chown)
[07:58] <royale1223> LilleCarl: hi
[07:59] <dyd> hi all! is there a channel dedicated to python game programming? or game coding generally speaking
[07:59] <LilleCarl> Hello :P
[07:59] <LilleCarl> Brb LeagueOfLegends :P
[07:59] <mitzampt> IrcME
[07:59] <LilleCarl> dyd, sorry but google should help you, this is a dedicated ubuntu channel
[07:59] <royale1223> LilleCarl: so what do you say?
[08:00] <royale1223> LilleCarl: what might be the problem?
[08:00] <rileyp>  I have diskless working and would like to resolve why resume is not working here is the output of dmesg http://pastebin.com/2GFEj1dT
[08:00] <rileyp> ndb not reconnecting ho can i fix that
[08:00] <LilleCarl> royale1223, the problem might be wrong owner? not sure tho but brb
[08:00] <_ikke_> I have a problem that my sound suddenly isn't playing anymore. When I look at the hardware tab in gnome-volume-control, it's completely empty. Probably a reboot will fix the problem again, but is there any other way I can reset that?
[08:01] <_ikke_> Also, alsamixer complains that it can't find any mixer
[08:05] <beli> LilleCarl: i know that...it was royale1223  asking
[08:05] <royale1223> i cahnged owner to www-data. still getting 403
[08:05] <rileyp>  nbd0: Attempted send on closed socket
[08:06] <LilleCarl> beli i missunderstood that ;)
[08:07] <beli> LilleCarl:  np
[08:08] <beli> royale1223: at first check what your web server is running as (uid/gid)  then adjust ownership and permissions of the webroot AND the subdir you are using
[08:09] <LilleCarl> beli you check that with htop or how do you check who runs what? ;)
[08:09] <royale1223> running as www-data. i changed according to it. but still not working
[08:09] <xmaz> Guys how can i install the latest updates for my server?
[08:10] <royale1223> xmaz: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:11] <beli> LilleCarl: man ps   --> ps -ef  ¦ grep -i  [h]ttpd
[08:11] <beli> LilleCarl: or you can check out the apache config for the specified config flags
[08:12] <LilleCarl> your a bit more experienced then me in other words ;D
[08:12] <beli> LilleCarl: we all started someday...
[08:14] <LilleCarl> beli thats true ;)
[08:15] <glda19> ho  use thinderbird 5.0 with ligthning 1.04b on a shared profile for xp and linux
[08:18] <barnee> hi all
[08:19] <Kingsy> guys, all of a sudden when I booted up my ubuntu pc adobe flash doesnt seem to be working properly (well at least youtube videos don't play) they are just a black screen
[08:20] <barnee> try reinstalling the adobe flash plugin Kingsy
[08:20] <madmn> does anyone know how to tell how much space you have left on a account from putty
[08:21] <barnee> madmn: are you referring to the ubuntu one account?
[08:21] <madmn> talking about in any account
[08:21] <madmn> i want to see how much space a folder is taking up
[08:22] <Kingsy> barnee: how would I do that with apt-get ?
[08:22] <astraljava> Kingsy: You can test whether flash works at all @ http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[08:22] <Kingsy> astraljava: hmm yeah, I get a successfully installed message.. and a version number
[08:22] <Kingsy> but youtube doesnt play
[08:23] <astraljava> madmn: `du -hs <directory>` will tell you how much a directory has eaten, `df -h` will tell you how much space left you got.
[08:23] <Kingsy> hmm let me take a closer look .. see if I can fix it
[08:23] <geeks-world> hey guys my adobe flash player is not working properly i mean when i zoom video of you tube than the video become static, now i want that somebody help me out from this problem
[08:25] <szal> geeks-world: define "zoom video"
[08:26] <barnee> szal, probably he was referring to the full screen version..
[08:27] <szal> barnee: I tend not to assume, so I rather ask that
[08:32] <szal> !pm | geeks-world
[08:32] <xxxxpsychoxxxx> s
[08:32] <graingert> !question | maum
[08:37] <nickmoeck> Can someone help me understand package version numbers when it comes to PPAs?  Let's say the official repos contain software-2.2.1. I create a PPA with a package based on software-2.2.1 (with just a slightly different build configuration).  I call it software-2.2.1~ppa1 and I install it from my PPA.  What happens if software-2.2.2 gets uploaded into the Ubuntu repos, and I don't make a new package in my PPA?
[08:38] <nickmoeck> If I do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, does it install software-2.2.2 or does it leave it at software-2.2.1~ppa1
[08:39] <bazhang> nickmoeck, purge the ppa with ppa-purge in that case
[08:39] <szal> nickmoeck: what's the point of using a PPA if it doesn't have a newer version than one of the standard repos?
[08:39] <cutout> hi, I  downgraded php on my machine using this post (method 1) http://2bits.com/drupal-planet/various-ways-running-php-52-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx.html
[08:39] <bazhang> !info ppa-purge | nickmoeck
[08:39] <cutout> and now I want to revirt it
[08:39] <cutout> can anyone help me please?
[08:40] <glda19> is there a posibilitie to downgrade thunderbird 5.0 to 3.1.10
[08:40] <bazhang> nickmoeck, as szal  points out though, the PPA will have the newer version in most cases
[08:40] <nickmoeck> bazhang: I'm talking about the edge case, where the PPA doesn't necessarily have the latest version, though.
[08:40] <bazhang> glda19, why would you want to, and where did you get tbird 5.0 from
[08:41] <cutout> I forced the the latest packages but now when I call a php page it downloads instead of running the script
[08:41] <bazhang> nickmoeck, not ever seen that happen, but if so then purge-ppa
[08:41] <szal> nickmoeck: in that case my question applies
[08:41] <glda19> bazhang, i have problems with the new ligthning version 1.04b
[08:41] <bazhang> glda19, please answer my question
[08:42] <glda19> bazhang, i answer your question
[08:42] <bazhang> where did you get tbird 5.0 from   <----- glda19
[08:43] <corecode> hi
[08:43] <nickmoeck> bazhang / szal: Let's say the PPA maintainer just hasn't gotten around to updating the PPA yet, but I want to keep the package from the PPA. Would I have to use apt-pinning to ensure that the package from the PPA is *always* the installed version?
[08:43] <glda19> bazhang, how can i see that
[08:43] <bazhang> glda19, you dont know where you installed a 3rd party install from?
[08:44] <bazhang> nickmoeck, the ppa would take precedence, thus the need to purge if you did not want it any longer
[08:44] <test> hi
[08:44] <corecode> for some reason one of my machines will automatically raise full-screen windows when i move my mouse cursor over them (i have focus follows mouse).  does anybody know how to switch that off?  my other machines don't show this behavior
[08:45] <test> 这是我第一次用irc
[08:45] <nickmoeck> bazhang: Okay, I guess that's the answer I was looking for.  The PPA takes precidence, even if the version number in the PPA is lower?
[08:45] <bazhang> nickmoeck, the version would not be lower, but yeah
[08:45] <bazhang> !cn | test
[08:45] <wildbat> 10.04, gparted don't show my dmraid( aka onboard RAID ) but each individual drive, any fix to it ?
[08:45] <anev> how do i go about mounting a smbfs over the netowrk?
[08:45] <test> 3k
[08:45] <anev> was trying mount -t smbfs //ip/share /mnt
[08:46] <anev> (as root) but i get a permissions denied error
[08:46] <corecode> user/password for the server
[08:46] <glda19> bazhang, form this http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/06/upgrade-to-thunderbird-5-0-in-ubuntu-11-04-10-10-10-04/
[08:46] <bazhang> glda19, PPA?
[08:47] <anev> corecode: as in //user@ip/share /
[08:47] <glda19> look on the site man bazhang
[08:47] <anev> ?
[08:47] <bazhang> glda19, just tell me?
[08:47] <bazhang> glda19, if its a ppa , use ppa-purge
[08:47] <glda19> no look there i the is all the info
[08:48] <wildbat> anev: man smbmount
[08:48] <szal> .oO( this kind-of implies that glda19 is unable to summarize the info.. )
[08:48] <bazhang> !info ppa-purge | glda19 if its a ppa
[08:50] <the_p_> hi. is it possible to use a newer kdenlive package in ubuntu 10.04 lets without upgrading the whole system?
[08:51] <bazhang> the_p_, compile, or find a PPA sure, perhaps backports as well
[08:51] <glda19> bazhang, stop it and look on the site i give you
[08:51] <bazhang> the_p_, what version did you look for
[08:52] <bazhang> glda19, address the channel please. I cannot help you right now
[08:53] <glda19> bazhang, stop it
[08:53] <bazhang> glda19, we are volunteers. please dont make demands like that.
[08:53] <glda19> bazhang, look on the link i give you
[08:54] <bazhang> glda19, its a PPA. use what I told you earlier.
[08:54] <devral> hi, i'm trying to setup samba and when i access a share, it won't allow me to write to it, even though i have "write list = username" under the share heading
[08:54] <the_p_> bazhang: as new as possible. the one in 10.04 is quite buggy and I was told that the newer ones are much better so I want to test this.
[08:55] <Gryllida> glda19, can you ask your full question in one line, please, so I could see if it's something I know?
[08:55] <the_p_> bazhang: thanks for your hint. I found out that the kdenlive project itself has a ppa with the newest version.
[08:55] <glda19> Gryllida, yes no problem
[08:55] <bazhang> the_p_, check to see if its available for lucid
[08:55] <Delta_> devral: have you tried windows 7?
[08:55] <xxxxpsychoxxxx> has anyone here how to install PWU2200GB wireless driver? i have it but its on .tgz file
[08:56] <devral> Delta_ i am using windows 7 client to connect to a samba server on ubuntu 10.04
[08:56] <devral> Delta_ it just shows, "Try again | Cancel"
[08:56] <devral> Delta_ or rather, "You need permission to access this share, Try again | Cancel"
[08:56] <Delta_> devral: check your firewall
[08:57] <the_p_> bazhang: it seems to work I installed it and it also runs.
[08:57] <corecode> devral: did you log in to the share?
[08:57] <devral> Delta_ i can read/write to my home share (\\server\username)
[08:57] <bazhang> the_p_, good news
[08:57] <devral> Delta_ but not to other standalone folders
[08:58] <lins> l;
[08:58] <glda19> Gryllida, i did a upgrade of thunderbird form 3.1.11 to 5.0 and i use also lightning 1.02b no problem so far  i use a shared profile so i can read it form xp and linux can read the mail. But i must also upgrade ligthning to 1.04b and now ik can read it any more in xp and linux
[08:58] <corecode> devral: do you have security = share?
[08:58] <devral> Delta_ i.e., \\server\username will let me read/write, while \\server\net_storage does not let me write
[08:58] <szonek> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPClAUGj4S4
[08:58] <glda19> Gryllida, before i found a solution and it works fine
[08:58] <corecode> devral: or security = user?
[08:59] <devral> corecode i believe neither, where is this defined?
[08:59] <DERMANNNN> hi
[09:00] <bazhang> DERMANNNN, hi
[09:00] <MrRagga> hi, is there any kind of frontend package maintainer use to promote packages between the different stages?
[09:00] <DERMANNNN> hi bzahang
[09:00] <DERMANNNN> bazhang
[09:00] <corecode> devral: in smb.conf
[09:00] <corecode> devral: did you have a look at the smb logs?
[09:01] <glda19> Gryllida, did you under stand it
[09:01] <devral> corecode got it - it was commented out; it is now security = user - does that use linux the system users or separate smb users? (e.g., via smbpasswd?)
[09:02] <corecode> devral: no, that's a protocol option
[09:02] <corecode> devral: but that was the default
[09:03] <corecode> devral: so that's not the issue
[09:03] <corecode> devral: you should look at the logs
[09:03] <corecode> devral: and try accessing from the local machine via smbclient
[09:05] <glda19> Gryllida,
[09:06] <Gryllida> glda19, reading now; please hold.
[09:06] <glda19> ok Gryllida
[09:07] <solars> hey, is there a lightweight, graphical svn tool/client/plugin?
[09:07] <Gryllida> glda19, I got this as that you upgraded Thunderbird from 3.1.11 to 5.0 and can't access its profile from linux or xp any longer. Is that correct?
[09:07] <devral> corecode what logs am i supposed to look at? none of them in /var/log/samba update when i try to access them, and the only things in there are about my initial logging in
[09:08] <bobbyd> solars: tortoise SVN?
[09:08] <devral> corecode oops, i mean none of the logs update when i try to write to the non-working share
[09:08] <corecode> devral: you'll have to up the log level
[09:09] <pa> hello!
[09:09] <chaddy> hi pa
[09:09] <solars> bobbyd, is it a standalone tool or does it integrate somewhere?
[09:09] <glda19> Gryllida, not quited correct i can read the profile can read the mail. But can't read my ligthning calendar any more.
[09:09] <pa> i have a quite serious problem, hope someone can help me. I tried to install asterisk on natty 64bit. Already during the package setup, and after that during every boot, asterisk send my cpu to 100% iowait, and then the machine freeze
[09:09] <balou> hi, i've just installed ubuntu trying to setup a dual boot with a windows 7 installation that was already on my machine
[09:10] <balou> but the windows 7 is on a different harddrive ( secondary)  and ubuntu is on the primary
[09:10] <devral> corecode before i dive off into that deep end of the pool, can you verify i haven't goofed up the share section? here's what i have http://pastebin.com/SAv7ZJUQ
[09:10] <balou> windows appears in my bootloader menu, but when i try to load windows it says it can't find the disk
[09:10] <bobbyd> solars: integrates with Nautilus I think
[09:11] <balou> so when i logged into ubuntu to try to inspect my grub settings,  I can't really find where the menu is being configured?
[09:11] <sss314> How can I show a list of recent upgrades made with the Update Manager?
[09:11] <Gryllida> glda19, You upgraded Lightning from 1.02b to 1.04b and can't read its profile anymore. Is that correct?
[09:11] <glda19> Gryllida, yes
[09:11] <devral> corecode devral is a user on the system with sudo/admin rights, and root owns the /home/public folder
[09:11] <glda19> Gryllida, is a shared profile
[09:11] <phux> balou: please dont use enter as punctuation
[09:11] <Gryllida> glda19, how did you install the unstable beta version?
[09:12] <balou> ok, sorry.
[09:12] <glda19> Gryllida, what unstable version
[09:12] <ikonia> glda19: that is not supported here as I told you yesterday
[09:12] <phux> balou: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[09:13] <Gryllida> glda19, "1.02b" is "1.02 beta", this is unstable ("beta" = "unstable")
[09:13] <Gryllida> glda19, how did you install beta?
[09:13] <glda19> Gryllida, there is no stable version
[09:13] <AziaBurgi> hello
[09:14] <corecode> devral: oh/
[09:14] <corecode> devral: i think you'll have to be able to write to that directory without using sudo
[09:15] <solars> bobbyd, alright, thank you
[09:15] <AziaBurgi> i am having trouble with a partially installed package, i can't reinstall or remove it. it is preventing me from installing other packages. this is the error i am getting: http://pastebin.com/6eLqqkLm
[09:16] <mjanp> hi. i've got hdd & ssd disk. At First, I want to install win7 on hhd, and then install ubu11.04 on ssd. Will i see in grub win7 & ubu to boot default? thx in adv
[09:16] <glda19> Gryllida, from the site of lithning with a xpi file
[09:16] <ikonia> glda19: that's not supported here.
[09:17] <phux> AziaBurgi: sudo ln -s /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf
[09:17] <glda19> ikonia i now but Gryllida ask it
[09:17] <ikonia> glda19: that's fine, I'm just confirming it's not supported here.
[09:17] <DERMANNNN> http://www.abload.de/img/bildschirmfoto28mf.png
[09:17] <Gryllida> glda19, ok, please hold.
[09:18] <devral> corecode /home/public has chmod 777 permissions
[09:18] <ikonia> Gryllida: that software is not supported here, you're welcome to take it to PM
[09:18] <DERMANNNN> please help
[09:18] <AziaBurgi> phux: what will that do?
[09:18] <ikonia> DERMANNNN: what is the question Lars
[09:19] <corecode> devral: well, that should rule out file system issues
[09:19] <DERMANNNN> i have a problem with maximizin g windows:
[09:19] <Gryllida> ikonia, I'm about to redirect them to another channel. All I needed was to know how they found it
[09:19] <DERMANNNN> i did a screenshot: http://www.abload.de/img/bildschirmfoto28mf.png
[09:19] <ikonia> DERMANNNN: what is the probem
[09:19] <ikonia> Gryllida: perfect, thank you
[09:19] <ikonia> DERMANNNN: that doesn't explain anything
[09:19] <barnee> DERMANNNN: may be it is stuck in another workspace..
[09:19] <DERMANNNN> yes barnee right !!
[09:19] <barnee> try super key + S
[09:20] <DERMANNNN> barnee: but it should stay at workspace 1
[09:20] <barnee> you can move the window properly into one of the workspace
[09:20] <DERMANNNN> barnee: i only want to maximximize it
[09:20] <DERMANNNN> barnee: on the workspace 1
[09:21] <barnee> can you move the windows?
[09:21] <DERMANNNN> yes
[09:21] <Gryllida> glda19, /msg'ed, please read in private; thank you.
[09:22] <barnee> just move the windows and snap it at the top
[09:22] <DERMANNNN> barnee:
[09:22] <DERMANNNN> i do not want to change the workspace
[09:22] <DERMANNNN> i am on workspace 1 and i want to stay there
[09:23] <mjanp> hi. i've got hdd & ssd disk. At First, I want to install win7 on hhd, and then install ubu11.04 on ssd. I will set on bios to boot default from hdd. Will i see grub with win7 & ubu to boot? thx in adv
[09:23] <DERMANNNN> yes mjanp
[09:23] <DERMANNNN> barnee:
[09:23] <devral> corecode if i `smbclient -U devral //server/public` and do `smb: \> md test` i can successfully create a folder
[09:23] <mjanp> thanks <DERMANNNN> :-)
[09:23] <anev> is there a way to clear all printer errors?
[09:23] <barnee> DERMANNNN: you can drag it to workspace 1 any time, first let us fix the current problem
[09:24] <DERMANNNN> barnee: if i want to maximize windows, they change the workspace
[09:24] <barnee> using shift+ctrl+alt+arrow keys
[09:24] <barnee> let the window move to another workspace in maximized form, use the shortcut to move it to workspace 1
[09:25] <devral> corecode and it appears windows 7 will allow me to do it now as well!
[09:25] <corecode> yey
[09:25] <corecode> problem solved
[09:25] <DERMANNNN> no stop barnee
[09:25] <DERMANNNN> barnee: that was not my question
[09:25] <devral> corecode thanks for the help :)
[09:25] <DERMANNNN> barnee: i do not want to change the workspace but it does it
[09:26] <barnee> so you have a problem adjusting the workspace manually?
[09:26] <DERMANNNN> yes barnee: i think so
[09:27] <DERMANNNN> barnee: first i have to say, i only uses one workspace
[09:27] <DERMANNNN> i have got 4 but i only use 1
[09:27] <barnee> yes i get that part
[09:27] <DERMANNNN> ok
[09:28] <DERMANNNN> and if i have a window on the workspace one, i try to maximize it, sometimes it works. it maximizes on workspace 1
[09:28] <barnee> DERMANNNN: but does have you tried shift+ctrl+alt+arrow key?
[09:28] <DERMANNNN> yes
[09:28] <DERMANNNN> but i dont need it -.-
[09:28] <barnee> it helps you solve the prblem
[09:28] <DERMANNNN> yes thats true
[09:28] <barnee> if it maximises on another workspace, drag it to workspace 1
[09:28] <DERMANNNN> but cant i defened the problem
[09:29] <DERMANNNN> because it happens quite every time
[09:29] <barnee> i think it is because when you open the window, the
[09:29] <riddler> who in here use lubuntu beside me?
[09:29] <ikonia> riddler: why ?
[09:29] <Guest41915> night everybody!
[09:29] <barnee> *the majority of the window is in another workspace making that workspace default for the window, meaning when you maximize it, it moves to that workspace
[09:29] <DERMANNNN> riddler:
[09:29] <DERMANNNN> !ot
[09:30] <cutout> can anyone help me unping php version from my machine?
[09:30] <riddler> ikonia just wondering... i like it, its more lightweight than xubuntu
[09:30] <DERMANNNN> barnee: very good !!! can i stop that
[09:30] <sgo11> hi, empathy issue. For one particular contact (msn protocol), moving it from Ungrouped to a group will be reset after the program restart. any ideas how to solove it? thanks.
[09:30] <cutout> can anyone help me unpin php version from my machine?
[09:30] <DERMANNNN> barnee: very good !!! can i stop that
[09:30] <ikonia> DERMANNNN: you said that
[09:30] <DERMANNNN> ok
[09:31] <phux> riddler: openbox,fluxbox,wmii,awesome,e17,... lightweight to the max :)
[09:31] <barnee> as long as i know, if you can just pull the window such that the majority of the window is in the workspace 1, you should have the maximized window in workspace 1
[09:31] <DERMANNNN> yes: barnee: and how to do that ?
[09:32] <DERMANNNN> yes: barnee: should i move the window first that the majority is on 1 and then maximize
[09:32] <barnee> yes try that. DERMANNNN
[09:32] <DERMANNNN> barnee: that works, but it costs a lot of time
[09:32] <barnee> to move a window, click and hold on to the titlebar
[09:33] <DERMANNNN> ok and then doubble click on the window barnee ?
[09:33] <DERMANNNN> to maximize it ?
[09:33] <barnee> DERMANNNN: when you do that way, every time you reopen the window, it will stay in workspace 1
[09:33] <DERMANNNN> yes okay and how to maximize windows barnee ?
[09:33] <barnee> yes, right clicking on title bar works as well. you can see options to maximize a window.
[09:34] <barnee> have you tried snapping the window to the top of the workspace DERMANNNN ?
[09:34] <DERMANNNN> barnee: yes that works too
[09:34] <DERMANNNN> do you always snap the window on the top barnee ?
[09:35] <barnee> i have two or three different methods to maximize a window
[09:35] <nodie> hi
[09:35] <nodie> I've just build a new computer, i3 4GB RAM...
[09:35] <nodie> I've installed ubuntu 11.04
[09:35] <DERMANNNN> barnee: cant i defend that ?
[09:35] <barnee> snapping is a good one, and then rightclicking on the title bar for options, or double clicking on title bar as well.
[09:35] <nodie> and it's really strange, the keyboard is slooooow
[09:36] <DERMANNNN> barnee: if i change the number of desktops from 4 to 1
[09:36] <nodie> do you know of any problem with i3  cpus or mainboard graphic cards or something?
[09:36] <DERMANNNN> barnee: should it not work then ?
[09:36] <nodie> because it seems like a problem with compiz
[09:36] <nodie> or something related
[09:36] <barnee> you can try, i never tried that, i want multiple workspace
[09:36] <coz_> nodie,  which video card is on that system?
[09:37] <barnee> DERMANNNN: doesn't the window stay maximized when you reopen it?
[09:37] <nodie> good question coz_
[09:37] <coz_> nodie,  open a terminl
[09:37] <coz_> nodie,   copy and paste this command    lspci | grep -i vga
[09:38] <DERMANNNN> barnee: your solutions like snapping work really good
[09:38] <coz_> to easily copy / paste in linux... highlight text and simply middle click where you want to paste it
[09:38] <DERMANNNN> hello coz_ i think you can help me
[09:38] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  ok  what's the issue
[09:38] <DERMANNNN> coz_ we talked 1 week ago
[09:38] <coz_> nodie,  what is the readout of that command?
[09:38] <esmirlin> hey guys i love kde appearance but not its performance so i would like to install oxygen gtk into gnome but i don't find the way on google... can you help me please?
[09:38] <nodie> coz_, one sec
[09:39] <DERMANNNN> coz: if i want to maximize a window, it changes the workspace
[09:39] <nodie> coz_, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[09:39] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  oh!! yeah I remember that ,, still the same issue???
[09:39] <DERMANNNN> yes coz_
[09:39] <coz_> nodie,  mmm ok
[09:39] <DERMANNNN> yes coz_ i tried everythingyou told me
[09:39] <coz_> nodie,  do you have ccsm installed
[09:39] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  let me rething this through
[09:39] <DERMANNNN> ok thanks
[09:40] <coz_> nodie,    alt+F2  type in ccsm
[09:40] <Fudge> hi cant remember format after chroot of dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null bs=1024KB, trying to zero out sectors to dd smaller size than the partition.
[09:40] <nodie> no coz_ I don't have it installed
[09:40] <DERMANNNN> coz_ as far as i know, in 11.10 it is not anymore, but it can be there later too
[09:40] <ikonia> Fudge: why are you chrooting do to that
[09:41] <Fudge> isnt that  how you do it?
[09:41] <bazhang> DERMANNNN, are you using 11.10?
[09:41] <ikonia> Fudge: no
[09:41] <Fudge> oh, the drive is mounted at /mnt
[09:41] <DERMANNNN> bazhang  NO
[09:41] <ikonia> Fudge: it shouldn't be mounted
[09:41] <coz_> nodie,  ok in a terminal    sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:41] <Fudge> to zero out sectors first?
[09:41] <ikonia> Fudge: no
[09:42] <Fudge> i couldnt find it in man dd how to do it
[09:42] <coz_> nodie,  tell me when that is finished installing
[09:42] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  still thinking ,, so hold on
[09:42] <ikonia> Fudge: what exactly are you trying to do ?
[09:42] <DERMANNNN> okay thanks coz_
[09:42] <nodie> coz_, done!, I'm in ccsm
[09:43] <coz_> nodie,  ok cool,, now on the left are the categories,, click on the "General" category
[09:43] <Fudge> dd the partition but its only 385mb on a 13gig partition, keep it as a base to work with
[09:43] <nodie> coz_, ok
[09:43] <Fudge> its a netinstall with ssh
[09:43] <coz_> nodie,  then click on the OpenGL  plugin to get into it's settings
[09:43] <ikonia> Fudge: "dd" the partition ???? what exactly are you actually trying to do
[09:43] <coz_> nodie,   untick  lighting and  Sync to VBlank
[09:43] <coz_> nodie,  set the Texture Filter to "Best"
[09:44] <Fudge> ikonia  sorry, i want to back it up so if my project screws the install up i can restore it
[09:44] <nodie> coz_, ok
[09:44] <coz_> nodie,  ok now  test to see if things are still " slow"
[09:45] <ikonia> Fudge: that's not the way to backup data
[09:45] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  refresh my memory ,,, video card,,, cpu,, amount of memory
[09:45] <nodie> coz_, it's still slow
[09:46] <nodie> you know, I prefer to buy a standard videocard
[09:46] <nodie> a nvidia or something like that
[09:46] <Fudge> ikonia  i see no reason why dd if=sda5 of=file.img bs etc and reverse when i want to reclaim the original install
[09:46] <nodie> than to have unstable drivers running :p
[09:46] <coz_> nodie,  hmm... do you have an nvidia card on that system as well?
[09:46] <nodie> no coz_
[09:46] <ikonia> Fudge: then get on with it if you know better
[09:46] <nodie> but I can get one
[09:47] <Fudge> ikonia  im not being cocky, i was just trying to dd using used space and 0 out unused space so the img wouldnt be 13gig
[09:47] <coz_> nodie,  I am not particularly up on all of the intel video possible issues,, I have heard of this however,, let me  search it to see what I can come up with hold on
[09:47] <ikonia> Fudge: you don't use dd to backup data like that
[09:47] <Fudge> if you can suggest a better way
[09:47] <ikonia> Fudge: just backup the file system - that way it's not a useless block level copy
[09:47] <DERMANNNN> coz_ what
[09:48] <coz_> DERMANNNN,   which video card on that system
[09:48] <coz_> nodie,  explain to me  "slow keyboard"
[09:48] <DERMANNNN> coz_ intel GMA X4500 but i do not think its about my graphics
[09:49] <Fudge> what tool do u suggest ikonia , or do you mean tar it?
[09:49] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  t his is a puzzling issue for me,, give me a little more time to think about this,, I cant even reproduce this here,, maxing a window sends it to another viewport ...yes?
[09:49] <esmirlin> hey guys i love kde appearance but not its performance so i would like to install oxygen gtk into gnome but i don't find the way on google... can you help me please?
[09:50] <DERMANNNN> coz_ yes but only, if the window is more then the half on the other workspace
[09:50] <coz_> nodie,   slow keyborad response as in  pressing a key,, a few seconds later it  works
[09:50] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  oh!!
[09:50] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  ok that makes sense!
[09:50] <ikonia> Fudge: tar would work fine
[09:50] <DERMANNNN> ok super
[09:50] <ikonia> Fudge: what OS are you currently using ?
[09:50] <DERMANNNN> coz: my friend is english he explains that like thos: the majority of the window is in another workspace making that workspace default for the window, meaning when you maximize it, it moves to that workspace
[09:50] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  it is going to maximize  to the viewport that has the majority of the window exposed on it
[09:50] <DERMANNNN> yes
[09:51] <DERMANNNN> sure
[09:51] <trial> people indonesia,, please chat mee!!
[09:51] <Utopiah> can someone with 11.04 natty tell me his last line of anacron upstart job please? ( tail -1 /etc/init/anacron.conf ) I think I missed it up yesterday when I was tired ;)
[09:51] <ikonia> !in | trial
[09:51] <DERMANNNN> coz_ you got my point
[09:51] <ikonia> ahh darn it
[09:51] <ikonia> !id | trial
[09:51] <Fudge> maverick ikonia
[09:52] <Gatsby> good day
[09:52] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  so.... one to do is check ccsm  ,  Place windows Plugin and in the window matching fields  you can dictate which windows will max where or open where
[09:52] <trial> ubottu ,, thanks for info
[09:52] <sodoscar1> Hi there ... I've just installed apache2/mysql/php5 on my server and am now trying to install Drupal7 to that server.. the trouble is I'm unable to point my browser to where the install.php doc is located from my laptop... is anyone able to talk me through it please... I've been reading so much my eyes are burning
[09:52] <coz_> nodie,  is keyboard response slow when typing in the irc client or just with compiz shortcuts
[09:52] <blargg> Anyone know of a gnome panel applet that shows a graph and get the data graphed from a user script? All I've found is limited to predefined things like CPU, memory, etc.
[09:52] <DERMANNNN> coz_
[09:53] <DERMANNNN> coz: how can i start ccsm in english
[09:53] <coz_> DERMANNNN,   in terminal  LANG=C ccsm
[09:53] <Gatsby> is there anyone can help me to understand a POSTIIX log?
[09:53] <ikonia> Gatsby: #postfix maybe ?
[09:53] <ikonia> Gatsby: or pastebin it so we can all see
[09:53] <Gatsby> oh thanks :)
[09:53] <Fudge> 129mb ikonia  from 386 thanks for  suggestion
[09:53] <DERMANNNN> coz_ its german not english :(
[09:53] <coz_> nodie,  are you still here
[09:54] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  if you type  in the terminal    LANG=C ccsm  it should definitly open in english  those are caps  letters by the way
[09:54] <DERMANNNN> coz_ it works
[09:54] <DERMANNNN> now
[09:54] <DERMANNNN> and what now
[09:55] <coz_> DERMANNNN,   Window Mangement category ,,, Place windows  plugin
[09:55] <coz_> did I lose nodie ??
[09:55] <DERMANNNN> and then coz_
[09:56] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  if you click on the Place Windows plugin to get into it's settings you will see , on the General tab,, three options for window placement
[09:56] <trial> i'am newbie :'(
[09:56] <devral> in samba, how can i make it so it uses the linux system users' passwords instead of the ones i set in smbpasswd?
[09:56] <DERMANNNN> yes voz_
[09:56] <DERMANNNN> yes coz_
[09:56] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  on the second tab,,"Fixed window placement" you can also  set window that way
[09:56] <nodie> yes coz_ I'm still here
[09:56] <nodie> but I'm at work !
[09:56] <coz_> nodie,  ok thouogh I lost you,, no problem,, work is much more important
[09:56] <DERMANNNN> coz_yes and what should i do
[09:57] <DERMANNNN> coz_ i want every window
[09:57] <veek> if i Ctrl-a and then ctrl-c in opera, any way to paste it into xterm. mouse-2 click only pastes text i've selected with the mouse cursor
[09:57] <nodie> coz_, it's not in that machine
[09:57] <nodie> but in another
[09:57] <nodie> the keyboard is slow in gnome-terminal for example
[09:57] <nodie> crazy slow
[09:57] <DERMANNNN> coz_ i want every window
[09:57] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  example,,, in the Fixed window placement tab,,, the first options is "windows with fixed positions"
[09:57] <nodie> it's as if the computer were slower not just keyboard
[09:57] <ikonia> DERMANNNN: wait for a response, he's helping many people at once
[09:57] <DERMANNNN> ok
[09:57] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  at the bottom is  "Windows with fixed viewport"
[09:57] <Fudge> ikonia  actually mate that natty :p
[09:57] <DERMANNNN> yes
[09:58] <ikonia> Fudge: not a problem
[09:58] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  open a window you always want to opne on viewport #1
[09:58] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  then click the "New":
[09:58] <DERMANNNN> coz_ every window
[09:58] <DERMANNNN> coz_ not one
[09:58] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  oh
[09:58] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  how many viewports do you have?
[09:58] <DERMANNNN> 4
[09:58] <airtonix> :<
[09:58] <DERMANNNN> 2 vertical 2 horzizontal
[09:59] <coz_> de and what  is the screen resolution on the monitor
[09:59] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  what is the screen resolution
[09:59] <DERMANNNN> 1280x1024
[09:59] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  did we reset compiz the last time I talked with you?
[10:00] <DERMANNNN> coz_ reset? do not know
[10:00] <sodoscar1> Hi there ... I've just installed apache2/mysql/php5 on my server and am now trying to install Drupal7 to that server.. the trouble is I'm unable to point my browser to where the install.php doc is located from my laptop... is anyone able to talk me through it please... I've been reading so much my eyes are burning
[10:00] <coz_> DERMANNNN, is this a clean install of ubuntu 11.04?
[10:00] <DERMANNNN> yes coz_
[10:00] <DERMANNNN> very clean
[10:00] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  it wasnt an upgrade ...yes?
[10:00] <DERMANNNN> no
[10:00] <coz_> ok
[10:01] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  and this has been happening from first boot?
[10:01] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  ok open ccsm
[10:01] <DERMANNNN> ok
[10:01] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  click on "Preferences"
[10:01] <devral> how can i force samba to use the system accounts for administration, and thus ignoring smbpasswd altogether?
[10:01] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  under  "Backend"  what is listed there?
[10:01] <devral> authentication, rather
[10:02] <DERMANNNN> coz_ GCONF
[10:02] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  ok change that to flatfile
[10:02] <DERMANNNN> done
[10:02] <coz_> DERMANNNN,   then click the reset to default button
[10:02] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  make sure it did not go back to gconf backend
[10:03] <DERMANNNN> yes
[10:03] <DERMANNNN> works
[10:03] <coz_> DERMANNNN,   ok  now
[10:03] <coz_> DERMANNNN,   hit the "Back' button and go to the window management category
[10:03] <DERMANNNN> shit
[10:03] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  caca
[10:03] <DERMANNNN> my whole unity crashedn ow xD
[10:04] <coz_> DERMANNNN,   alt+F2   unity --reset
[10:04] <DERMANNNN> ok wait
[10:04] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  or  compiz --replace ccp &
[10:04] <DERMANNNN> okay and what now?
[10:05] <DERMANNNN> i am in the window management category
[10:05] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  did Unity start up again?
[10:05] <DERMANNNN> no but i can reinstall
[10:05] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  no no,, just hit alt+F2   compiz --replace &
[10:05] <DERMANNNN> ok
[10:06] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  if that doesnt work open a terminal  compiz --replace & disown
[10:06] <devral> how can i force samba to use the system accounts for authentication, and thus ignoring smbpasswd altogether?
[10:07] <coz_> DERMANNNN,  and if that doesnt work  log off and back on then come back here
[10:08] <DERMANNNN> coz_ okay
[10:08] <DERMANNNN> wait
[10:10] <coz_> by the way,, I think I saw someone with Unity keybinding questions,, one fellow did t his  which will be included in a compiz  Image overlay plugin at some point   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/keys.png
[10:10] <dermannnn> coz_
[10:10] <coz_> dermannnn,  ok
[10:11] <dermannnn> works
[10:11] <coz_> dermannnn,  ok  see if the windows are working now
[10:11] <dermannnn> what should i do in ccsm
[10:11] <dermannnn> in the window management
[10:11] <dermannnn> unity crashed so i could not read that
[10:12] <coz_> dermannnn,   ok make sure these are enabled,,, Grid,,, Move window,,,Place windows...Put...resize window...scale,, and one of the switchers
[10:12] <dermannnn> yes
[10:12] <g33p> Hello all ! I was hoping some one could help me with this little issue I have: How to put ubuntu on the hard disk of my desktop that is now connected to my laptop via a geeky PATA-USB interface. That is, I want to format my hd as ext4 and put ubuntu on it and then just FIX it on to my desktop and use it.
[10:12] <coz_> dermannnn,  If any  "conflct dialog" appears resolve it
[10:13] <dermannnn> ok
[10:13] <coz_> dermannnn,   now move up to the  Utility category,,,, Compiz library toolbox,,, crash handler,, D-Bus...mouse position polling...Regex matching... resize info ... scale addons...workarounds
[10:13] <coz_> dermannnn,  then click on the "resize info" plugin and tick the  "Show resize info for all windows" box
[10:13] <dermannnn> what
[10:14] <dermannnn> what utility
[10:14] <dermannnn> ah there
[10:14] <coz_> dermannnn,  then move up to the "Image loading"  category  and tick all 4
[10:14] <dermannnn> wait
[10:15] <dermannnn> in the compiz librabry
[10:15] <dermannnn> there is nothung
[10:15] <coz_> dermannnn,  right just make sure it's enabled
[10:15] <dermannnn> ok
[10:16] <coz_> dermannnn,  then all 4 in the image loading category
[10:16] <AFD> if I can access my ubuntu server over the LAN but not by the external IP address I find from whatismyip.com what is the config change I need to make?
[10:16] <dermannnn> and now
[10:16] <coz_> dermannnn,  under the "Extras category"  annotate,,screenshot
[10:16] <g33p> mannson you need to PORT FORWARD
[10:17] <AFD> g33p is it a router thing?
[10:17] <dermannnn> where
[10:17] <dermannnn> extras ?
[10:17] <dermannnn> AH OKAY
[10:17] <coz_> dermannnn,  Extras catebory just above the Image loading category on the left side list
[10:18] <g33p> mansson: yeah. I would do it by opening the router ip in browser and then "forward the port 80 of the ubuntu server's ip" to "port 80 of the external ip"
[10:18] <AFD> g33p thanks :D
[10:18] <g33p> :D
[10:18] <dermannnn> AND NOW
[10:18] <dermannnn> coz_ I DONT think that will work
[10:18] <coz_> dermannnn,  then in the "Effects  category"    Animations... animations add-on.. ...fading windows... window decoration and wobbly windows
[10:18] <coz_> dermannnn,  why not?
[10:18] <g33p> anyone out there willing to help me?
[10:19] <dermannnn> that cant be
[10:19] <dermannnn> the solution must be easier
[10:19] <coz_> dermannnn,   I am just making sure you have a solid basic compiz setup
[10:19] <dermannnn> everything is distroyed
[10:19] <coz_> dermannnn,  like what?
[10:19] <dermannnn> i dont have got panels
[10:20] <dermannnn> and ccsm is away too
[10:20] <coz_> dermannnn,  "away: ?
[10:20] <dermannnn> crashed
[10:20] <coz_> dermannnn,  when enabling some plugins,, compiz will restart
[10:21] <dermannnn> i have a questiom
[10:21] <coz_> dermannnn,   ok
[10:21] <dermannnn> wouldnt it be easier
[10:21] <dermannnn> to change the workspaces to 1
[10:21] <nodie> coz_, thanks for the help but I must leave
[10:21] <nodie> bye!
[10:21] <coz_> dermannnn,  sure if that's fine for you
[10:22] <coz_> dermannnn,  however,, you still need to be sure you have most of the basic stuff enabled
[10:22] <dermannnn> normally not but i do not know another solution
[10:22] <dermannnn> yes i did all what you said
[10:22] <dermannnn> but how to fix my problem now
[10:22] <coz_> dermannnn,  well that's what I am trying to do here,, with a basic set up ,, and this issue still persists,, then something is seriously wrong on that end
[10:23] <coz_> dermannnn,  go to the Desktop category
[10:23] <dermannnn> coz_ this problem exist in every clean install
[10:23] <dermannnn> on every pc
[10:23] <coz_> dermannnn,  tell me what is already enabled
[10:23] <dermannnn> everything is enabled there
[10:23] <coz_> dermannnn,  on every pc?  how many have you tried this on?
[10:23] <dermannnn> i have 5 ü
[10:23] <dermannnn> pcs
[10:23] <dermannnn> with clean installations
[10:23] <dermannnn> and my friends have the problem too
[10:23] <coz_> dermannnn,  from which manufacturers?
[10:24] <dermannnn> HP compaq dell
[10:24] <dermannnn> acer
[10:24] <coz_> dermannnn,  did you install on their systems as well?
[10:24] <anduril1> I have an 11.04 install that I haven't rebooted in a couple months, until just now.  When I boot, init starts and prints messages up to ureadahead.  After that, no output
[10:24] <g33p> anyone willing to help me?
[10:24] <dermannnn> fujitsu siemens
[10:24] <dermannnn> no
[10:24] <bobbyd> dermannnn: don't use enter as punctuation, longer sentences please :)
[10:24] <sodoscar1> Hi there ... I've just installed apache2/mysql/php5 on my server and am now trying to install Drupal7 to that server.. the trouble is I'm unable to point my browser to where the install.php doc is located from my laptop... is anyone able to talk me through it please... I've been reading so much my eyes are burning
[10:24] <anduril1> is it possible init is fsck'ing, but just not telling me so?
[10:24] <dermannnn> coz_ no
[10:24] <coz_> dermannnn,  ok so,, the windows are still moveing over to another viewport when maximizing??
[10:24] <devral> how can i force samba to use the system accounts for authentication, and thus ignoring smbpasswd altogether?
[10:25] <ikonia> sodoscar1: why can't you point your browser at it ?
[10:25] <dermannnn> yes but only
[10:25] <dermannnn> if they are the majority
[10:25] <dermannnn> on the desktop
[10:25] <dermannnn> yes but only
[10:25] <coz_> dermannnn,  right that isnt going to change
[10:25] <dermannnn> really
[10:25] <dermannnn> i did not had this in 10.10
[10:25] <coz_> dermannnn,  if the majority of a window is on another viewport then that is the viewport it will maximize on
[10:25] <dermannnn> shit
[10:25] <coz_> dermannnn,   caca  instead
[10:25] <coz_> dermannnn,   let me test again here hold on
[10:26] <glda19> how use cairo-dock
[10:26] <dermannnn> coz_ if i would activate desktop CUBE maybe it would be fixed
[10:26] <airtonix> i see you cut your hedges
[10:26] <g33p> Anyone have any idea about "installing ubuntu onto internal ide hd connected to windows laptop via usb"
[10:26] <airtonix> friends don't let friends use caps
[10:26] <pentarex> what does the error "kernel panic not syncing fatal exception in interrupt" means? Is it software problem or hardware
[10:27] <sodoscar1> ikonia: i'm not sure maybe dns problem?
[10:27] <ikonia> sodoscar1: what url are you trying to hit
[10:27] <airtonix> g33p: unless your laptops bios allows you to make the usb ide hdd appear as a normal ide hdd then ... no
[10:28] <airtonix> g33p: some bios will let you masquerade the usb hdd as a normal hdd and hide the fact that it's a usb hdd
[10:28] <g33p> yeah windows 7 is doing so.
[10:28] <coz_> dermannnn,  you can,, first  disable desktop wall,,, then enable desktop cube,, rotate cube,, and viewport swticher ,, if you get a conflick dialog  "IGNORE " it do NOT  fix the conflicts,, make sure the Unity plugin is enabled after that as well,, again IGNORE a conflict dialog
[10:28] <airtonix> g33p: no
[10:28] <sodoscar1> Ikonia:  192.168.1.1/drupal/install.php
[10:28] <ikonia> sodoscar1: ok - so that's nothing to do with dns
[10:28] <g33p> airtonix: should i reboot and go see if bios is showing a slave ide?
[10:28] <ikonia> sodoscar1: what is the error you get
[10:28] <dermannnn>  coz_if i ignore it, desktop cube would not be activated- .-
[10:29] <beli> pentarex: if this is happening for no reason it would at first do some memory check....
[10:29] <mikeconcepts> gnome 3 on Natty is awesome, thought Unity was a cool too, but gnome 3 seems even better
[10:29] <airtonix> g33p: it won't show as a slave ide, it will be in the section for dealing with usb storage devices
[10:29] <ikonia> mikeconcepts: please keep in mind this is a support channel
[10:29] <sodoscar1> ikonia: Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 192.168.1.1.
[10:29] <worstadmin_> For some reason my natty install doesnt have a sshd_config even after apt-get install ssh. I tried purgeing and reinstalling but that didnt work. How can I solve this?
[10:29] <ikonia> sodoscar1: can you se anything on http:102.168.1.1 ?
[10:30] <g33p> airtonix: ok. I will be right back. thanks for the info.
[10:30] <ikonia> sodoscar1: sorry, http://192.168.1.1
[10:30] <airtonix> sodoscar1: did you do : sudo ufw allow in to any port 80 ?
[10:30] <coz_> dermannnn,   try it again
[10:30] <dermannnn> coz
[10:30] <dermannnn> i cant activate cube
[10:31] <coz_> dermannnn,  also on this system,, if a window is more on one viewport it definitly only maximizes on the viewport where the majority of that window is
[10:31] <crino> hola
[10:31] <coz_> dermannnn,  what is it doing when you try to activate it?
[10:31] <dermannnn> yes coz_
[10:31] <sodoscar1> ikonia: yes i've tried with the http://  but not what airtonix has suggested
[10:31] <dermannnn> yes coz_ here too
[10:31] <dermannnn> coz_ yes it is
[10:31] <sodoscar1> airtonix: should i copy that command
[10:31] <crino> clear
[10:31] <ikonia> sodoscar1: do you get anything on http://192.168.1.1 ?
[10:31] <dermannnn> [12:31] <coz_> dermannnn,  also on this system,, if a window is more on one viewport it definitly only maximizes on the viewport where the majority of that window is
[10:31] <airtonix> sodoscar1: try it
[10:31] <Jensit> heyho
[10:31] <coz_> dermannnn,  what happens when you try to activate Desktop cube?
[10:32] <dermannnn> depencies problems
[10:32] <airtonix> sodoscar1: but you'd want to try : sudo ufw status first
[10:32] <sodoscar1> ikonia: no
[10:32] <coz_> dermannnn,  conflicts yes?
[10:32] <sodoscar1> airtonix: thanks trying that now
[10:32] <dermannnn> yes
[10:32] <airtonix> sodoscar1: sudo ufw status
[10:32] <coz_> dermannnn,   did you disable desktop wall first?
[10:32] <devral> how can i force samba to use the system accounts for authentication, and thus ignoring smbpasswd altogether?
[10:32] <dermannnn> yes
[10:32] <airtonix> sodoscar1: it might say "disabled"
[10:32] <ikonia> sodoscar1: ok, so the problem is your webserver is not running/started
[10:32] <coz_> dermannnn,  ok and what are the   cube conflicts?
[10:32] <dermannnn> many things
[10:32] <dermannnn> and if i ignore them
[10:32] <sodoscar1> airtonix: yes inactive
[10:32] <dermannnn> it would not be activated
[10:33] <coz_> dermannnn,  ok  resolve the conflicts
[10:33] <dermannnn> ikonia: try 127.0.0.1
[10:33] <airtonix> sodoscar1: yep then note what ikonia said, you'll need to do : sudo tail /var/log/apache2/error.logs -f
[10:33] <dermannnn> coz_ i did so, everything crashed and i have to re install
[10:33] <ikonia> dermannnn: I don't need to
[10:33] <coz_> dermannnn,  not yet
[10:33] <coz_> dermannnn,  now enable rotate cube and viewport switcher
[10:34] <dermannnn> i cant do so
[10:34] <dermannnn> the screen frezed
[10:34] <airtonix> sodoscar1: is this ubuntu-server or ubuntu-desktop that you're running apache-mysql-php on ?
[10:34] <dermannnn> freezed
[10:34] <coz_> dermannnn,  ok log off and then log onto the  ubuntu classic session
[10:34] <sodoscar1> airtonix: output =  tail: cannot open `/var/log/apache2/error.logs' for reading: No such file or directory
[10:34] <sodoscar1> tail: no files remaining
[10:34] <dermannnn>  coz_ i have got a question
[10:34] <sodoscar1> airtonix: server 10.04
[10:34] <airtonix> sodoscar1: apache2 log will be in there somewhere i forget exactly where.
[10:34] <dermannnn> coz_ how do you solve the problem
[10:34] <Graphic_Issue> ati radeon 5670 issue (cannot start system)
[10:34] <airtonix> sodoscar1: ah ok you
[10:34] <coz_> dermannnn,  make your changes there,, disable unity plugin in classic ,, then log off and back onto the ubuntu session and enable unity plugin and ignore conflicts
[10:34] <jpds> sodoscar1: Try: /var/log/apache2/error.log
[10:34] <g33p> airtonix: just checked it. my bios detects the hd as USB HDD
[10:35] <Graphic_Issue> ati radeon 5670 issue (cannot start system)---can anyone help me ?
[10:35] <airtonix> sodoscar1: better off taking this to #ubuntu-server
[10:35] <rabbit1> HI, problem with network connections in 9.10. can anybody help ?
[10:35] <dermannnn> coz_ how do you solve the problem with window maximizing
[10:35] <airtonix> g33p: did you specifically see an option to "force as ide hdd" ?
[10:35] <Gryllida> rabbit1, details please?
[10:36] <g33p> airtonix: no. my bios seems to not give much options. will check out the manufacturers
[10:36] <coz_> dermannnn,     make sure the Put plugin and the others i mentioned in the window mangement category are enabled,, however,, apparenlty we are gettings messages crossed or I am not able to visualize the exact issue
[10:36] <sodoscar1> jpds:sod@theta:~$ sudo tail /var/log/apache2/error.log -f
[10:36] <sodoscar1> <br />
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[10:36] <sodoscar1> <br />
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[10:36] <FloodBot1> sodoscar1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:36] <rabbit1> Gryllida: got 9.10 on my acer laptop, trying to "connect wireless network". settings are all correct, but unable to get in network at my office
[10:36] <dermannnn> okaY
[10:36] <sodoscar1> airtonix: sorry i will try there then
[10:36] <dermannnn> coz how do you maximize window
[10:36] <dermannnn> s
[10:36] <jpds> sodoscar1: Well, at least now you have the right log file.
[10:37] <Gryllida> rabbit1, any error message?
[10:37] <Jensit> rabbit1: does it say maximum clients reached?
[10:37] <sodoscar1> thank you for your help guys!  I appreciate your time
[10:37] <rabbit1> nop
[10:37] <coz_> dermannnn,    well a double click of the title bar,, or I use easy stroke for most of my work and window management +compiz stuff
[10:37] <rabbit1> it asks for key allways
[10:37] <coz_> dermannnn,  alt+F10
[10:37] <Gryllida> rabbit1, `invalid key`?
[10:37] <sodoscar1> jpds: yes thankyou.. sorry i wasn't paying attention and just copy/pasted
[10:37] <dermannnn> and they dont changex
[10:37] <Graphic_Issue> can anyone help me i cannot boot ubuntu on my pc, it related to ati radeon 5670
[10:37] <dermannnn> changes
[10:37] <dermannnn> the workspace
[10:37] <rabbit1> Gryllida: Jensit: nop, its a valid wap key, one of the other system is working, when i ping to server its not pinging
[10:37] <Jensit> rabbit1: maybe the router is wrong programmed so that the number of maximum clients is reached.... windows ignores this but ubuntu tries to reconnect all the time
[10:38] <sodoscar1> jpds: yes thankyou.. sorry i wasn't paying attention and just copy/pasted
[10:38] <rabbit1> Jensit: but only one ubuntu system is connected....
[10:38] <g33p> airtonix: so can't i do nothing if my hd is USB HDD ?
[10:38] <dermannnn> and they dont changes the workspace coz_
[10:38] <thebomb> Graphic_Issue, where u downloading your drivers from ?
[10:38] <coz_> Graphic_Issue,   when booting   hold down the shift key to get to the grub menu,,, then hit "e"  and in the kernel boot line  add    nomodeset  just before quiet splas,,  see if that works
[10:38] <Jensit> rabbit1: ok then its not that issue ;)
[10:38] <coz_> !nomodeset | Graphic_Issue
[10:38] <crino> hola? alguien español?
[10:38] <dermannnn> and they dont changes the workspace coz_
[10:38] <rabbit1> Jensit: more over we were able to connect 5 - 6 windows and ubuntu at a time before
[10:38] <coz_> dermannnn,  mmm
[10:39] <dermannnn> coz_ did not annoy that you
[10:39] <Graphic_Issue> ok tnx for pointer ill try to do work with this for now.
[10:39] <dermannnn> coz_ do you have always the majority on workspace 1
[10:39] <dermannnn> from the windows coz_
[10:39] <rabbit1> Jensit: What can i do if i have to setup my network settings from scratch in ubuntu 9.10. will this help?
[10:39] <coz_> dermannnn,  I must not be completely understandint the problem,, I know a window with the majority of it on another view port will only maximize on that other viewport
[10:39] <Jensit> rabbit1: hmm you do not have any error messages?
[10:40] <dermannnn> coz_ yes and did not that annoy you
[10:40] <coz_> dermannnn,  however  on dual monitors ,, without Put plugin enabled  firefox would open on the secondary monitor
[10:40] <crino> hola?????
[10:40] <crino> alguien me lee?
[10:40] <rabbit1> Jensit: no, no error message, it tries to connect always [connecting icon] and then asks for WAP key all the time....
[10:40] <geirha> !spanish | crino
[10:40] <coz_> dermannnn,  no it doesnt annoy me because I only maximize a window on the viewport I want it on,, not when it is more than half way onto another viewport
[10:41] <dermannnn> ah coz_
[10:41] <Jensit> rabbit1: thats a signal for that your router does not accept the ubuntu authentification
[10:41] <dermannnn> coz_ do you first move the window to the middle of the workspace
[10:41] <dermannnn> coz_ and then maximize it
[10:41] <coz_> dermannnn,  so if  a terminal is mostly on another viewport,, I drag it over and maximize it
[10:41] <dermannnn> ok
[10:41] <dermannnn> coz_ isnt that annoying for you coz_
[10:41] <Loqus> I have a networking question involving VLANs, and multiple ISPs if anyone feels up to taking a look at it?
[10:41] <dermannnn> coz_ it costs a lot of time
[10:42] <balooo> hi, would ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64.iso  work with an
[10:42] <balooo> sorry:  with a core i7 chip
[10:42] <dermannnn> i will try it this thay too but it get on my nerves
[10:43] <coz_> dermannnn,  I may have not noticed it on 0.8.x compiz before because of how I deal with windows on my machine,, so if this is a consistent issue for you,, go to #compiz-dev and speak with smspillaz,, he lives in austrailia so adjust with your time zone for a reasonable hour to speak with him
[10:44] <matiu> Hey guys, I'd really like to get my dell v715w printer going in the next hour or two ..
[10:44] <coz_> dermannnn,   if anyone can figure this out it will be sam
[10:44] <Loqus> Question: I have 4 VLAN Interfaces, on one physical interface connected to a managed switch set for 4 VLAN IDs on 4 ingress ports. Ingress ports connected to 4 different ISPs. Dhclient on VLAN interface VID 11, gets IP address. Pings out using ping -I eth0.11 8.8.4.4, and gets responses. Next call dhclient on eth0.12. Gets IP, pings out eth0.12... but I can't pint out eth0.11 anymore. In TCP Dump on eth0.11, the ping goes out a
[10:44] <matiu> They make a 32 bit linux driver, but I'm on 64 bit
[10:44] <matiu> any direction appreciated
[10:44] <fuzzybunny69y> Hey guys! I am still trying to switch over to mac from ubuntu but for some reason Ubuntu ejected my external hardrive in the middle of the copy and now it cannot mount it again. It keeps giving me an error messaging saying "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0).Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Input/output errorNTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault," it then
[10:44] <fuzzybunny69y> tells me to run a chkdsk /f from windows but I cannot do that because I removed windows when I  installed Ubuntu. Is there anything else I can do to fix this?
[10:44] <matiu> wow, ok it's too noisey with Qs :)
[10:44]  * matiu retires
[10:46] <Loqus> ...well that killed the chatter :)
[10:47] <matiu> fuzzybunny69y, maybe somethign in the mtools package or dosfstools
[10:47] <anduril1> are there any options I can add to the 'recovery mode' boot to get more debug output?
[10:47] <anduril1> the boot seems to be hanging, and would like to know what it is hanging on
[10:47] <gadgetdevil> hello all, I am visiting a website that does not include a caching header for 200+ unique items, is there a way to force this on my end?
[10:48] <rabbit1> Jensit: i din't get you
[10:48] <rabbit1> Jensit: another ubuntu laptop is running fine with the same authentication....
[10:49] <Jensit> rabbit1: that it allways wants you to enter the WPA key might be a signal that the router does not accept your authentification... so i think the problem is the router ;)
[10:49] <minimec> dermannnn: With e17 as WindowManager your problem would be gone. With e17 most of the windows open on the screen you want and maximize on the screen you want. Only exception I see right now is Virtualbox, maximaizing only on primary screen.
[10:49] <rabbit1> Jensit: may be, what the solution then ?
[10:49] <Jensit> rabbit1: hmm.... ok thats confusing..
[10:49] <minimec> ... and gone he is...
[10:50] <Jensit> rabbit1: what driver you got installed?
[10:50] <Jensit> rabbit1: ubuntu driver oder another?
[10:50] <rabbit1> Jensit: no idea, this is old laptop and was fine until today afternoon. i din't install anything new
[10:50] <Graphic_Issue> i have ubuntu 11.04 issue, no booting issue solved with nomodeset, now i have issue of resolution
[10:51] <Jensit> rabit1: were you able to cennect to the network before?
[10:51] <Jensit> connect*
[10:51] <Graphic_Issue> i have ubuntu 11.04 issue, no booting issue solved with nomodeset, now i have issue of resolution better say desktop size iz ower screan size, need scaling
[10:51] <rabbit1> Jensit: yes, i was able to, but router is moved to different place and i am unable to connect
[10:51] <rabbit1> Jensit: infact its closer now....
[10:53] <Jensit> rabbit1: so the router was moved... hmm... maybe it has been reset... check the router settings... because new laptops ignore the issue if the maximum clients are reached but old ones just try to reconnect
[10:54] <Jensit> rabbit1: just set the number of clients to... 500 or more and give a try :>
[10:55] <Jensit> rabbit1: i couldn't think of annother problem at the moment =/
[10:56] <Graphic_Issue> i have ubuntu 11.04 issue, no booting issue solved with nomodeset, now i have issue of resolution better say desktop size iz ower screan size, need scaling...
[10:57] <pintook> I have upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 I use a pentium3 862GHZ AND 512RAM but when I run vlc player in ubuntu classic (no effect) it a few minutes it freezes my machine help?
[10:57] <cutiyar> how to play .avi ??
[10:57] <Jensit> pintook: try to use a more lightweight system than ubuntu... maybe lubuntu ;)
[10:58] <Loqus> Question: I have 4 VLAN Interfaces, on one physical interface connected to a managed switch set for 4 VLAN IDs on 4 ingress ports. Ingress ports connected to 4 different ISPs. Dhclient on VLAN interface VID 11, gets IP address. Pings out using ping -I eth0.11 8.8.4.4, and gets responses. Next call dhclient on eth0.12. Gets IP, pings out eth0.12... but I can't pint out eth0.11 anymore. In TCP Dump on eth0.11, the ping goes out a
[10:58] <Jensit> cutiyar: have you tried with vlc media player? its available in the software centre
[10:58] <pintook> Jensit; u mean with my specs I shld run lubuntu
[10:59] <rabbit1> Jensit: ok, will try it out
[10:59] <Jensit> printook: yes, that'll maybe increase performance
[10:59] <Jensit> pintook: you can install it via synaptic ;)
[10:59] <pintook> how similar is lubuntu to ubuntu
[11:00] <Jensit> pintook: very similar but using less recources
[11:00] <pintook> so i will have limitations
[11:01] <pintook> will i still enjoy all sofware that run on ubuntu
[11:01] <Jensit> pintook: no limitations but the desktop envirement needs less ram
[11:01] <pintook> ok
[11:01] <pintook> thanks
[11:01] <Jensit> pintook: and you can install all ubuntu applications ;)
[11:01] <pintook> ok
[11:02] <pintook> then pls give me the site so i can read more abt lubuntu
[11:02] <Gryllida> !lubuntu | pintook
[11:03] <stephanmg> hi i asked yesterday already: i took the apt-get upgrade which came in about 3-4 days ago  -> now my fonts look pretty ugly (update were xorg-server-input-all). anybody suggestions?
[11:03] <Jensit> just a moment afk drinking some coffee
[11:04] <noa> ./server irc.anonops.in
[11:04] <pintook> Jensit:thanks
[11:04] <pintook> Gryllida:thanks
[11:05] <rabbit1> Jensit: in the router settings "Security - 64 bit WEP" but i have got only WEP 40/128 bit and WEP-128 Passphrase"
[11:05] <Gryllida> pintook, you're welcome.
[11:07] <pintook> Gryllida:Bye for now...
[11:07] <Gryllida> pintook, have a good day/
[11:07] <pintook> Jensit:Bye for now...
[11:07] <rabbit1> Jensit: its connected but no signal at all
[11:08] <rabbit1> Gryllida: it's connected "connection established" but the tower is none, i mean the internet health week
[11:08] <soziety> Hello, I need encrypt ubuntu system, but in the installation I didn't make it, can i make it from console?
[11:10] <lolirx> hi I want to conver a live cd iso image to usb by command line; Please some one tell me how?
[11:10] <Pumbba> bom dia galera
[11:11] <spacebug-> soziety: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome  and  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1449168 might help you
[11:13] <Pumbba> english language here
[11:13] <Pumbba> ?
[11:13] <Pumbba> help me please!
[11:14] <Pumbba> i'm begnning today hete
[11:14] <Pumbba> here
[11:14] <Pumbba> #LulzSec
[11:15] <Pumbba> # LulzSec
[11:15] <Pumbba> exit
[11:15] <rabbit1> Gryllida:
[11:15] <Pumbba> ~exit
[11:15] <rabbit1> Gryllida: u there?
[11:15] <lolirx> hi I want to conver a live cd iso image to usb by command line; Please some one tell me how?
[11:16] <Pumbba> how to recovery source.list in ubuntu 10.10? help me please
[11:16] <Gryllida> rabbit1, yes
[11:16] <Pumbba> *sources.list
[11:16] <Gryllida> Pumbba, please ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:16] <Gryllida> err sorry, *10*.10
[11:17] <Pumbba> ok
[11:17] <rabbit1> Gryllida: i got the network connection established, but health is 0 (zero)
[11:17] <Gryllida> Pumbba, http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php might work
[11:17] <soziety> thanks
[11:18] <Pumbba> Gryllida how to go for this channel? i'm beginning here
[11:18] <Gryllida> rabbit1, I'm not very knowledgeable with that, sorry; please ask the channel rather than me.
[11:18] <Gryllida> Pumbba, you're at irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
[11:18] <remoteCTRL> hi guys!
[11:18] <Gryllida> Pumbba, please don't join #ubuntu+1, I misread your question, sorry.
[11:18] <rabbit1> Gryllida: sure, thanks
[11:18] <Gryllida> remoteCTRL, hello.
[11:18] <lolirx> converting iso to usb in command line ?????????
[11:19] <remoteCTRL> what do i need to do in order to have a newly inserted tv card recognized?
[11:19] <Pumbba> Gry thanks!
[11:19] <spacebug-> lolirx: you dont have access to a cd-drive or just dont want to install a graphic system? (or just wanna know how to?)
[11:19] <s7r> is there any package to configure SSTP vpn server on Ubuntu ?
[11:19] <remoteCTRL> it is linux compatible accoding to linux tvs chcl
[11:20] <astraljava> Pumbba: There's a cool site for that: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[11:20] <lolirx> spacebug-: in a jam ; just having command line i want to convert live cd iso iamge to usb ???
[11:20] <sebrock> Hey, I'm currently running a AMD64 3200+ rig with Ubuntu Server 64-bit. But I need to make some harware upgrades, namely change mobo, cpu and memory. Can I just keep my old install and plug it in or do I have to reinstall everything?
[11:20] <Pumbba_> how to recovery my sources.list in ubuntu 10.10? help me please
[11:21] <spacebug-> lolirx: ok, then I dont know
[11:21] <lolirx> Any one?
[11:21] <petsounds> lolirx, http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/InstallUsingStandardInstaller#Preparation read instructions no.2 and be careful with sdX
[11:21] <hddhelp> ubuntu 11.04 dont detect sata disk and another raid0 setup
[11:21] <lolirx> in a jam ; just having command line i want to convert live cd iso iamge to usb ???
[11:22] <astraljava> Pumbba: Please read a few lines above your latest question.
[11:22] <remoteCTRL> tv-card! anybody ever used a tv cars?
[11:23] <Gryllida> Pumbba, hold on; I'm searching.
[11:24] <fairuz> lolirx: You can do it easily with Startup Disk Creator
[11:24] <Pumbba_> ok Gry
[11:24] <suren> GUYS anyone know how to install Foxit reader in ubuntu 10.4 LTS
[11:24] <remoteCTRL> Pumbba have a look at this http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[11:24] <astraljava> Errr... am I invisible now?! ;)
[11:24] <sebrock> Hey, I'm currently running a AMD64 3200+ rig with Ubuntu Server 64-bit. But I need to make some harware upgrades, namely change mobo, cpu and memory. Can I just keep my old install and plug it in or do I have to reinstall everything?
[11:24] <Gryllida> Pumbba, Pumbba_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/6076/i-need-a-copy-of-the-default-etc-apt-sources-list
[11:24] <Gryllida> astraljava, hi!
[11:24] <lolirx> fairuz: I just have command line ? is it possible with command line?
[11:24] <Pumbba_> ok CTRL see now
[11:24] <astraljava> Gryllida: Hello. :) Yeah no prob, just found that pretty funny. :)
[11:25] <Gryllida> :)
[11:25] <hddhelp> cannot mount harddrives 1st raid 0 setup second sata drive anuone can help ?"
[11:25] <spacebug-> sebrock: in short, it should work, but you never know
[11:25] <sebrock> right thanks
[11:25] <Pumbba_> Gry see now too
[11:26] <Gryllida> watching
[11:26] <Jaded> Sebrock what are you upgrading to?
[11:26] <Pumbba_> thanks
[11:26] <sebrock> from AMD 3000+ to a Phenom II
[11:26] <sebrock> Jaded: ^^
[11:26] <Jaded> nice
[11:26] <fairuz> lolirx: I think it's possible, but you have to partition yourself
[11:26] <Jaded> I'm running an athlon 4800 x2, really need to upgrade.....
[11:27] <liuchunxue> dir
[11:27] <liuchunxue> ls
[11:27] <rabbit1> anybody here to help me on Wireless Network ?
[11:27] <s7r>  is there any package to configure SSTP vpn server on Ubuntu ?
[11:28] <hddhelp> cannot mount harddrives 1st raid 0 setup second sata drive anuone can help ?"
[11:28] <Pumbba_> thanks Gly!
[11:28] <rabbit1> having problem with connecting to wireless internet on 9.10 and acer
[11:28] <Gryllida> Pumbba_, you're welcome.
[11:28] <Pumbba_> thnks
[11:29] <Gryllida> s7r, stand by, please.
[11:29] <Pumbba_> sorry, my english is bad, im from brazil
[11:29] <astraljava> Off-topic: Jaded: Why? My workhorse at home is an AMD Athlon64 3000+. Works just fine. Sure, some compiling takes a bit of time (like UFO:AI maps), but otherwise it's plenty. :)
[11:29] <wookey> I upgraded to natty and my xfce4 menu now just says 'no applications found'
[11:29] <wookey> Anyone know why it broke?
[11:30] <DERMANN> Hello
[11:30] <DERMANN> bug +776435
[11:30] <DERMANN> bug+776435
[11:30] <DERMANN> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/776435
[11:31] <DERMANN> !bug 776435
[11:31] <Gryllida> s7r, There is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNServer but I really don't think there is a `package` to configure this; others in the channel may know better.
[11:31] <wookey> .config/menus/ has <MergeFile type="parent">/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu</MergeFile>
[11:31] <s7r> thanks Gryllida
[11:31] <DERMANN> +bug 776435
[11:31] <wookey> and that file does have plenty of menu items. Alacarte agrees that I have menu items...
[11:31] <suren> I have downloaded tar.bz2 and .deb extensions of Foxit pdf reader ...i want to install the reader in my ubuntu 10.4 ....whichbone is better way ?? installing the .deb package with dpkg command or which one is best ???   i have the copy of .deb foxit reader....i shoud move this to anywer before instaalin with dpkg command ??? please guide me
[11:32] <DERMANN> +bug 776435
[11:32] <andrewh192> hey, what's a good graphic design program to use for fairly simple headers for blogs
[11:32] <sudaya> hi all , i cant install phpunit in 11.04
[11:33] <suren> I have downloaded tar.bz2 and .deb extensions of Foxit pdf reader ...i want to install the reader in my ubuntu 10.4 ....whichbone is better way ?? installing the .deb package with dpkg command or which one is best ???   i have the copy of .deb foxit reader....i shoud move this to anywer before instaalin with dpkg command ??? please guide me
[11:33] <rabbit1> guys, help me out with wireless network connection for ubuntu 9.10 on acer laptop
[11:33] <suren> I have downloaded tar.bz2 and .deb extensions of Foxit pdf reader ...i want to install the reader in my ubuntu 10.4 ....whichbone is better way ?? installing the .deb package with dpkg command or which one is best ???   i have the copy of .deb foxit reader....i shoud move this to anywer before instaalin with dpkg command ??? please guide me
[11:33] <Gryllida> DERMANN, we can see that link now; can you speak, please?
[11:33] <hddhelp> rabbit1 what is problem ?
[11:33] <DERMANN> that is my problem
[11:33] <astraljava> suren: the .bz2 is most likely the source tarball, no need for that if you got the .deb package.
[11:33] <Gryllida> suren, please don't repeat.
[11:33] <anujwalia> Any one who can tell me how i can run sudo commands without having access to the root
[11:33] <astraljava> !patience | suren
[11:34] <Gryllida> anujwalia, you have access to your account, which is a sudoer, that's how it works. :-)
[11:34] <rabbit1> hddhelp: trying to connect to router in office through wireless connection, problem is "it says connected, but shows health zero.
[11:34] <suren> thanks you so much SIT
[11:34] <suren> Sir
[11:35] <anujwalia> Gryllida nop um not given permission to install , an in need of that badlt
[11:35] <Gryllida> DERMANN, does it work with compiz off?
[11:35] <Gryllida> anujwalia, talk to system administrators about that, please.
[11:35] <sudaya> help me out while intalling phpunit
[11:35] <DERMANN> Gryllida: If Compiz off, unity will not work too
[11:35] <astraljava> suren: Just install the .deb, if you don't know how, let us know.
[11:35] <Gryllida> DERMANN, did you get somebody else reproduce the bug?
[11:36] <hddhelp> 1st of all do u have any acces to network or internet ower that wirelles ?
[11:36] <anujwalia> Gryllida lol i dnt wnt to call him everytime , i want to things myself , um not his slave
[11:36] <DERMANN> Yes, every people i talked to Gryllida
[11:36] <Gryllida> hddhelp, please address people whom you speak to; prefix your line with their nick.
[11:36] <tinga90> hi all, does moonlight works now?
[11:36] <hddhelp> kk
[11:37] <ajf> OK, I'm trying to set a background for the terminal
[11:37] <hddhelp> Gryllida:  1st time for me to give or ask help .... not familliar with this srry
[11:37] <ajf> But it won't show up properly
[11:37] <ajf> like it's semi-transparent
[11:37] <ajf> if I adjust the transparency slider it doesn't help much
[11:37] <rabbit1> hddhelp: u there?
[11:37] <Gryllida> hddhelp, it's ok, just to help others see whom you talking to. Thanks and welcome by the way. :)
[11:37] <rabbit1> hddhelp: trying to connect to router in office through wireless connection, problem is "it says connected, but shows health zero.
[11:38] <hddhelp> rabbit1:  yes i am, i didint saw ur answer on my question
[11:38] <hddhelp> rabbit1: 1st of all do u have any acces to network or internet ower that wirelles ?
[11:38] <rabbit1> hddhelp: yes sir, it was all working fine couple of hours before....
[11:38] <Gryllida> DERMANN, you been here with another nickname before?
[11:39] <DERMANN> no
[11:39] <hddhelp> rabbit1: 2nd do u know what is ur wifi adapter? and do u know how to use network manager ?
[11:39] <Gryllida> DERMANN, can you try asking #compiz about the problem?
[11:39] <bryan_> hello
[11:39] <DERMANN> Okay.
[11:39] <rabbit1> hddhelp: nop, i am not that good, but here in this place everything is setup and another laptop on ubuntu is able to get the connection.
[11:39] <Loqus> Question: I have 4 VLAN Interfaces, on one physical interface connected to a managed switch set for 4 VLAN IDs on 4 ingress ports. Ingress ports connected to 4 different ISPs. Dhclient on VLAN interface VID 11, gets IP address. Pings out using ping -I eth0.11 8.8.4.4, and gets responses. Next call dhclient on eth0.12. Gets IP, pings out eth0.12... but I can't pint out eth0.11 anymore. In TCP Dump on eth0.11, the ping goes out a
[11:41] <hddhelp> rabbit1:  go to Application>accessories>Termina click on it. nest type in sudo -s and after that tupe in ur password. after that tupe iwconfig
[11:41] <DERMANN> Gryllida: They do not help me.
[11:42] <hddhelp> rabbit1: copy what list in separate querry with me
[11:42] <rabbit1> hddhelp: yeah, it says no wireless extension
[11:43] <Gryllida> DERMANN, sorry not a unity user myself; what did the problem start happening after?
[11:43] <DERMANN> Gryllida: What do you use ?
[11:43] <Itoshiki> could anyone write my nick (just to verify that you people can read what i type) thanks in advance
[11:43] <hddhelp> rabbit1:  no wireles card is present or setup correctly. did that particular pc had wirelles connection?
[11:43] <hammoommah> itoshik
[11:43] <Itoshiki> nice thanks
[11:43] <rabbit1> hddhelp: yeah, it was working fine 3 hrs ago
[11:43] <beli> gawk v4.0.0 :) wow
[11:44] <hddhelp> need help my pc cannot find raid0 hdd setup, or other sata hdd ...
[11:44] <hddhelp> rabbit1: is that laptop or pc ?
[11:45] <rabbit1> hddhelp: laptop (acer)
[11:45] <DERMANN> Gryllida: What do you use ?
[11:45] <eee_> How do I change my login screen in ubuntu 11.04 natty (I'm using upgraded elementary OS)
[11:45] <Gryllida> DERMANN, I use 'classic' gnome
[11:45] <Gryllida> !classic
[11:45] <rabbit1> hddhelp: also, same prob with another lenovo pc
[11:45] <hddhelp> rabbit1: is there any keay combination to enable or disable wifi , or swich or taster??
[11:45] <dr3mro>  hello , i have ubunut 11.04 and fujitsu siemens laptop the problem is when i i use firefox my cpu temp rises high and laptop shutdown ....i want to make cpu clock goes down from 1.8 to 800 mhz till the temp goes down ... how can i do that
[11:45] <rabbit1> hddhelp: yeah, wep key, this the only thing.
[11:47] <red> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6581205/ide-for-php-js-html-css-on-ubuntu-with-svn-support
[11:47] <hddhelp> rabbit1: wep key? wep key is password for autenticatin to wifi ap or router, im asking for phisical kay, taster swich or keyboard combination for enabling or disabling of wireless
[11:47] <eee_> How can I change my login screen in ubuntu 11.04 latty? I have downloaded a package from the ubuntu online art database
[11:48] <rabbit1> hddhelp: o sorry, nothing as such, auto enabling
[11:48] <Loqus> Are there any IRC channels more suited to Ubuntu networking queries?
[11:48] <Gryllida> Loqus, mostly here; there is also ##networking in general.
[11:48] <hddhelp> rabbit1: did u try to reboot ur laptop ?
[11:48] <rabbit1> hddhelp: infact, it says it is connected, but the health is zero
[11:48] <rabbit1> hddhelp: yeah, lot of reboots....
[11:49] <herkupus> Loqus: your vlan question is not quite ubuntu specific, maybe try ##linux
[11:49] <Loqus> Thanks Gryllida,
[11:49] <hddhelp> rabbit1:  give me model of ur laptop
[11:49] <Loqus> have a fairly in depth problem and don't seem to be getting much traction in general channels.
[11:49] <rabbit1> hddhelp: acer aspire 5920
[11:50] <hddhelp> rabbit1:  ubuntu 32 bit or 64 bit ?
[11:50] <rabbit1> hddhelp: 32 bit 9.10
[11:51] <kodapa> rabbit1: why 9.10? O_o
[11:51] <sagarchalise> is there a simple way to get ubuntu distro codename in commandline ?
[11:51] <kodapa> rabbit1: 9.10 isn't supported any longer
[11:51] <Pici> sagarchalise: lsb_release -a, or see lsb_release -h for all options
[11:52] <eee_> how can I change my login screen in ubuntu 11.04 latty? I have downloaded a package from the ubuntu online art database
[11:52] <eee_> natty*
[11:52] <rabbit1> kodapa: ;) yeah, i know. should switch over, its a work place system.
[11:52] <rabbit1> kodapa: will soon go for 11.04
[11:52] <hddhelp> rabbit1: buttons down the left hand side - one has a symbol like a satrallite dish - this enables/disables the wireless
[11:52] <hammoommah> hey all, does anyone here know of any good review websites for motherboards, setting up ubuntu server and want to bye new motherboard but unsure which to buy
[11:52] <Pici> !ot | hammoommah
[11:53] <rabbit1> hddhelp: yeah, that's on dude
[11:53] <kodapa> rabbit1: cool (:
[11:53] <hddhelp> rabbit1: swich it off, reboot pc
[11:53] <hddhelp> rabbit1: when boot up swich it on
[11:54] <rabbit1> hddhelp: will do that .... also, it says connection established and then zero health
[11:54] <Lattyware> eee_: heh, I wondered why you kept addressing me specifically
[11:54] <rabbit1> thanks hddhelp
[11:54] <eee_> umu i should type natty thats typo
[11:55] <Lattyware> eee_: I gathered
[12:04] <ndlovu> can I use ubuntu one to save disk space? ie. can I have a file only online, and not synced to a local hard drive?
[12:04] <magpii_> i know this isnt the right forum for this topic but i cant find a room dedicated to the poblem i have. i need a mercedes forum if possible. can someone help
[12:05] <gulzar> is it possible to use only Windows manager and not the complete DE and still use all graphical software?
[12:06] <Gryllida> gulzar, I think that's possible, yes.
[12:06] <gulzar> Gryllida: then which Window manager is best?
[12:06] <Gryllida> !best
[12:06] <Pici> magpii_: Please use #freenode in the future if you need help finding channels. Otherwise, you may want to check out #ubuntu-offtopic or ##cars
[12:07] <herkupus> gulzar: yes, as long as the graphical application does not need a DE specific taskbar or sth
[12:07] <Northernen> Where in Ubuntu is the grub configuration file?
[12:07] <gulzar> herkupus: Ok. Any example of such application.
[12:08] <herkupus> gulzar: since i don't use gnome or kde apps, i cannot tell. btw, i use fluxbox as window manager.
[12:08] <Gryllida> Northernen, /boot/grub/grub.cfg [1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[12:09] <herkupus> gulzar: but i guess the majority of gnome/kde apps will just work fine with any window manager.
[12:09] <Northernen> Gryllida, thank you.
[12:09] <gulzar> herkupus: Ok. Actaully I want to set up such thing on my pendrive to make it portable and use as data recovery and other smallet things where I want Linux..... :)
[12:10] <gulzar> herkupus: Then no prob
[12:11] <mjanp> hi. is there any problems with new intel hd graphics (core i5 2400, etc.)?
[12:12] <Trond--> Am I suppose to have 208K with files in File System with 3,9GB ?
[12:12] <Gryllida> mjanp, not for many people, what is your problem?
[12:13] <mjanp> Gryllida: i asked bacause i heard there is no drivers for linux
[12:13] <Gryllida> !hcl
[12:14] <Trond--> Am I suppose to have 208000 files in File System with 3,9GB ?
[12:14] <Gryllida> Trond--, please don't repeat; whne someone knows they will reply; thank you for your understanding and patience there.
[12:15] <Trond--> Gryllida, your welcome
[12:15] <mjanp> thanks, hcl means channael about hardware?
[12:15] <Gryllida> mjanp, hardware compatibility list.
[12:15] <Pici> mjanp: See the response from ubottu (our channel bot) above.
[12:15] <mjanp> thx Gryllida & ubottu :-)
[12:16] <Gryllida>  ubottu is a bot whom I triggered.
[12:16] <Pici> Trond--: Are you having an issue, or are you just curious?
[12:16] <Gryllida> ...
[12:16] <Trond--> Pici, I'm asking because I just recently went from Windows to Ubuntu. In Windows I had a few thousand files only.
[12:17] <Myrtti> Trond--: in Linux even devices are shown as 'files'
[12:18] <Myrtti> Trond--: in addition all settings, configurations and such are also in a file
[12:18] <SwedeMike> Trond--: my windows xp c:\windows dir contains 13k files.
[12:18] <Pici> Myrtti: bluh. thanks ;)
[12:19] <Trond--> Myrtti, That doesn't say me anything why there are so many files
[12:19] <ZykoticK9> Myrtti, infact, everything on gnu/linux is a file ;)
[12:19] <airtonix> Trond--: becuase there is.
[12:19] <Trond--> airtonix, Well so everything is ok then at least even though I don't understand it
[12:20] <Pici> Trond--: On my server, /proc/ alone contains 26716 files.  /proc/ isn't a real filesystem, it is an interface to the kernel. You might want to check out the 'hier' manpage, as well as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[12:20] <airtonix> Trond--: indeed this is one of those things you must accept for now, and learn why later on when you have the foundation knowledge to support your further research
[12:21] <airtonix> Trond--: just take stock in the knowledge that critical comparisons between windows and and linux on a level this fine will do you now good in your transition
[12:21] <airtonix> do you no*
[12:22] <cutiyar> when play a .avi movie the totem say could not found the stream
[12:22] <cutiyar> i installed alll codecs
[12:24] <mathAgentine> hello
[12:27] <chaddy> hi mathAgentine
[12:28] <compdoc> whats 2 + 2 ?
[12:29] <mathAgentine> I've several identical PC can and I frecuently need to pass a installed program in one of them to another  It can be done by packing the installed program or something similar
[12:30] <pgold36> I have a Dell Inspiron  notebook and I cannot get suspend or hibernate working (or any power management).  I am using ubuntu 11.04 that I installed through windows 7 and now have a dual boot.
[12:30] <mathAgentine> compdoc depends of the base 4 is the result in 10 base
[12:30] <compdoc> heh
[12:30] <herkupus> compdoc: 5 (for very big values of 2)
[12:30] <mathAgentine> ja aj herkupus
[12:30] <compdoc> I was just making sure mathAgentine could do math
[12:32] <mathAgentine> can anybody help me?
[12:32] <ZykoticK9> mathAgentine, you might want to check out "checkinstall" for a basic package packing wrapper - it creates DEBs from source code
[12:32] <Pici> mathAgentine: Or if you have the debs already, just copy them to the other computers.
[12:32] <mathAgentine> comdoc what number is 0.9999999...... (periodic number)
[12:32] <astraljava> Okay guys, focus please. #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat.
[12:33] <pgold36> Can anyone help me with my power management question?
[12:33] <astraljava> pgold36: What happens when you try to suspend or hibernate? Nothing?
[12:33] <pgold36> It locks the computer
[12:34] <pgold36> goes to the screen where i need to enter my password to get back
[12:34] <astraljava> pgold36: Happened to me a couple of times. What happens if you log back in, and try again?
[12:34] <mathAgentine> yes but is sems that i've missing dependencies I nedd at least to know how to find out the dependences of a certain .deb before installing
[12:34] <pgold36> I have tried many many times
[12:34] <pgold36> same thing every time
[12:35] <ZykoticK9> Does power management work with WUBI installs?  Re pgold36's question.
[12:35] <glda19> ho use cario dock
[12:35] <mathAgentine> i wae thinking about a kind of backup because the PC are identical
[12:36] <astraljava> pgold36: Okay. Let me try to find some info about that particular issue.
[12:36] <pgold36> Thanks!
[12:36] <ZykoticK9> mathAgentine, you could copy /var/cache/apt/archives DEBs to all machines?
[12:37] <Osmodivs> Hello. I have a DualBoot, I have Ubuntu 11-04 64bits, I installed nVidia's propietary driver 270.41.19 in Ubuntu, and I want to install the most recent nVidia's driver to Windows XP 32Bits since I can't find the same one as Linux. Is it possible that the  2 different  divers work in the same system
[12:37] <astraljava> ZykoticK9: The last words were "...and now have a dual boot." But a good question, pgold36: Is it a genuine dual boot, as in when you boot up your laptop, you choose in grub to which OS you wanna go?
[12:37] <ZykoticK9> mathAgentine, to find the dependencies of a particular package you could use "apt-cache rdepends foo" to get a list
[12:37] <ZykoticK9> astraljava, "I am using ubuntu 11.04 that I installed through windows 7"
[12:37] <coz_> or  sudo apt-get build-dep nameofpackage
[12:38] <amith_> @Oli
[12:38] <pgold36> when I boot I get a choice of win 7 and ubuntu.  Then I get grub and I can choose win7 or ubuntu there too
[12:38] <LAvalanche> Osmodivs: the two systems are completly seperated.
[12:38] <mathAgentine> Zykotic9  can i do this with installed program?
[12:39] <amith_> whats up in this room?
[12:39] <ZykoticK9> mathAgentine, sure...
[12:39] <LAvalanche> Osmodivs: ubuntu doesn't care which driver you use in windows (and the other way around)
[12:40] <mathAgentine> yes
[12:40] <ZykoticK9> mathAgentine, i mean copying the debs from cache or using "apt-cache rdepends..." - the checkinstall wouldn't apply to already installed packages
[12:40] <ZykoticK9> !tab > mathAgentine
[12:40] <Autoclesis> Good morning
[12:41] <mathAgentine> sorry if i don't understand I'm a new linux user tryng to use linux whti mi students netbooks
[12:41] <rocky1> is there a gtk/gnome app that lets you manage and/or sync your photos in picasa/facebook/flickr ? i don't just mean an export... the app should be aware of what exists on those services too
[12:41] <glda19> ho use cairo dock
[12:41] <mathAgentine> this channel is too fast sory
[12:41] <Autoclesis> Would you suggest installing with an old ubuntu disk (10.04 or whatever) and then updating, or instead, make a 11.04 flashdrive ?
[12:42] <Autoclesis> upgrading, rather
[12:42] <mathAgentine> zykotic9 i can do anything you tell me
[12:42] <ZykoticK9> Autoclesis, with ubuntu, fresh install is almost always "smoother" then upgrading
[12:42] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: and it's way faster
[12:43] <ZykoticK9> !tab > mathAgentine
[12:43] <c933103> Excuse me is the Ubuntu mobile still developing? and where can i find Ubuntu for ARM CPU? And would there be gubuntu with gnome like kubuntu with KDE ?
[12:43] <Autoclesis> But I could skip the USB creation process
[12:43] <coz_> rocky1,  mm not sure about that,,, i am betting there is let me check
[12:43] <Autoclesis> thanks ZykoticK9 , LAvalanche
[12:43] <rocky1> coz_: shotwell (default photo app) only seems to have a export/publish function
[12:44] <Autoclesis> I am just worried about the USB creation process
[12:44] <ZykoticK9> c933103, there is no gubuntu - gnome (classic) comes with 11.04 BTW
[12:44] <coz_> rocky1,   what about ubuntu1
[12:44] <Autoclesis> Do you need USB universal installer if you make USB from ubuntu?
[12:44] <rocky1> coz_: ubuntu+1 you mean?
[12:44] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: creating a usb disk is much faster then upgrading your whole system
[12:44] <coz_> rocky1,  yes  or flickrsync
[12:44] <rocky1> hm
[12:45] <coz_> rocky1,    http://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/synchronize-photos-between-local.html
[12:45] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: ubuntu has an usb disk creater preinstalled -> just download the iso and create the startup disk
[12:45] <amith_> rnvs?
[12:45] <Autoclesis> LAvalanche, that's what I thought!
[12:45] <Autoclesis> But i watched a misleading video
[12:45] <Pici> amith_: Was that a question?
[12:46] <coz_> rocky1,  there are most likely several applications that can do this,, I just googled with this string,,,    ubuntu sync photos to  flickr
[12:46] <rocky1> right, i've been googling last 10min as well and played around with some tools
[12:46] <coz_> rocky1,   a search like that should bring  up several options  not necessary to use "flickr" as the key work
[12:46] <rocky1> yeah picasa integration is actually most valuable to me...
[12:47] <Autoclesis> Not to sound stupid, but, download iso, transfer to drive, put drive in laptop, then turn on laptop and follow install instruction ?
[12:47] <rocky1> anyone know if gnome conduit is still moving along? seems to have stagnated
[12:47] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: pretty much - but you can also just boot into ubuntu from the drive to test it befor you install it
[12:48] <coz_> rocky1,  is that now named  gnome-pilot-confuit ??
[12:48] <coz_> conduit
[12:48] <rocky1> coz_: http://live.gnome.org/Conduit/
[12:48] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: just make sure your pc boots from the flash drive
[12:48] <Pici> coz_: That would likely be the conduit endpoint for pilot (palm).
[12:48] <compdoc> Autoclesis, the iso file on your drive wont do much just sitting there
[12:48] <coz_> Pici,  yeah just realized that after typing it :(
[12:49] <Autoclesis> OH, but I meant, using the pre-existing installer just mentioned
[12:49] <Autoclesis> So the thing called "USB univeral installer" is not necessary if i have ubuntu 11.04 already?
[12:49] <glda19> ho use cairo dock
[12:50] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: hehe - ok - from the start. you can boot into an existing ubuntu - do you have one?
[12:50] <compdoc> the thing is, the installer is going to want to format the drive and create partitions
[12:50] <Osmodivs> Hello. I have a DualBoot, I have Ubuntu 11-04 64bits, I installed nVidia's propietary driver 270.41.19 in Ubuntu, and I want to install the most recent nVidia's driver to Windows XP 32Bits since I can't find the same one as Linux. Is it possible that the  2 different  divers work in the same system
[12:50] <coz_> rocky1,  in the repository I think it is named just  "conduit"  i could be wrong
[12:50] <Autoclesis> I have ubuntu on desktop. I want to put ubuntu on a laptop.
[12:50] <Pici> Osmodivs: Yes.
[12:50] <Autoclesis> I am sorry for being stupid
[12:50] <LAvalanche> Osmodivs: ubuntu doesn't care which driver you use in windows (and the other way around)
[12:51] <ChesterX> hi, i finally decided to upgrade to ubuntu 11.04 (desktop). I would like to know though how you can switch off one of its very annoying features, namely the one that maximizes all the windows when you dock them to one of the screen borders
[12:51] <rocky1> coz_: irregardless... the deb's at their ppa are from 2009 so :(
[12:51] <Autoclesis> I have old ubuntu disk
[12:51] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: no problem. you have to download the new iso on your ubuntu pc
[12:51] <coz_> rocky1,  see if "conduit" is related to gnome-conduit
[12:51] <ChesterX> autoclesis which version is on it?
[12:51] <Autoclesis> okay, I am going to try it. Thank you, LAvalanche
[12:51] <Autoclesis> I think the disk is 9 something
[12:52] <Autoclesis> So I am willing to try the USB method
[12:52] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: then connect your flash drive to the ubuntu pc. startup the usb creation prog from ubuntu
[12:52] <Autoclesis> Right, LAvalanche
[12:52] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: after that just use the drive with your laptop
[12:52] <Autoclesis> I want to install it fully
[12:52] <Autoclesis> I don't want windows
[12:53] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: just follow the instructions. ther is an option for that
[12:53] <Autoclesis> Okay, thanks for the confirmation.
[12:53] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: one thing. your data on the falsh drive will be deleted
[12:53] <Autoclesis> http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-08763DU-12-5-Inch-Ultraportable-Clementine/dp/B004IZN3XE/ref=sr_1_7?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1309869366&sr=1-7
[12:54] <Autoclesis> How about that for compatability?
[12:54] <ZykoticK9> Autoclesis, one heads up regarding USB installs - be SURE that Grub gets installed to the correct drive (this might have to be chosen manually)
[12:54] <Autoclesis> uh oh
[12:54] <Autoclesis> Okay, now I am logging this chat
[12:54] <Autoclesis> lol
[12:54] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: just ask if you have questions durring the process
[12:54] <Autoclesis> Excellent idea
[12:55] <Autoclesis> So the Lenovo Ideapad is compatibile?
[12:55] <Autoclesis> Someone said the microphone driver was the only trouble
[12:56] <LAvalanche> Autoclesis: you can always just try ubuntu before installing it with the flash drive - just test it
[12:56] <Autoclesis> Right.
[12:56] <Autoclesis> I want to demonstrate to some iPad people I can have more functionality at the same price
[12:56] <jonatasnona> Autoclesis, take a look http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[12:57] <Autoclesis> Ah, ty jonatasnona
[12:57] <Autoclesis> Yes, I've been looking at HCLs of all kinds. That looks like the best one.
[12:57] <Autoclesis> Okay, TY all.
[12:59] <drdozer1> hi - I've got a problem with jdb2/sda1-8 getting to 95% IO when writing to a table with mysql
[12:59] <Osmodivs> thx, Pici , LAvalanche .
[12:59] <ChesterX> how can i switch off the window maximization (when i dock them to one of the borders)
[13:00] <drdozer1> it seems like jdb2/sda1-8 is stopping mysql writing to disk faster than about 1/2 M/s - does this sound possible?
[13:04] <pentarex1> can anyone tell me how can I install different kernel to 64 bit server 10.04
[13:08] <dyd> guys, if i create a pdf from a webpage it asks for a password as i try to open the file... but i didnt set any. i'm using opera.
[13:09] <astraljava> pgold36: Can't find anything real solid. Perhaps try this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/pm-utils/+bug/475087 Just don't blindly remove, backup first. (the file mentioned in the workaround, I mean)
[13:09] <pgold36> Thanks!
[13:09] <cptklotz> Hi everybody
[13:11] <dyd> ok probably the pdf is damaged the reader thinks it has a pwd
[13:11] <rocky1> does anyone know if it's possible... in Shotwell... to have it re-organize all of the photos in it's library on disk such that it maches the layout of the "Importing Pattern" pattern?
[13:12] <cptklotz> I've been using (X)Ubuntu for some weeks now and I *really* like it
[13:13] <chaddy> good stuff
[13:14] <cptklotz> I think I could use some pointers for configuring the login screen
[13:15] <pgold36> astraljava: Thanks but that file does not exist in my system as it did not for others who commented there.   I just posted my own question so i will wait to see what I get.
[13:15] <mathAgentine> ZykoticK9:  I've using what you've told and I can pass the /var/cache/apt/archives DEBs ¿What are those files?
[13:15] <mathAgentine>           i've tried to use the rdepends command bot despite i use the corect path file (I've double check it) i get "the package can't be found" message.
[13:15] <chaddy> cptklotz: would you like to do without the login screen, or just change the artwork/layout?
[13:15] <Autoclesis> I don't understand why Lenovo wouldn't offer to sell a Thinkpad with Ubuntu preinstalled
[13:15] <Autoclesis> I just asked them
[13:16] <rinkukokiri> can anyone explain why youtube causes my junk to freeze?
[13:16] <rinkukokiri> and it's only with non live video
[13:16] <rinkukokiri> and it's only youtube
[13:17] <Devil_Pumbba> hi ubuntusers
[13:17] <cptklotz> chaddy: I'd like to be able to choose a window manager more easily
[13:17] <drdozer1> I've had a google, and can't find anything useful about problems with jdb2/sda1-8 hogging all the IO
[13:17] <cptklotz> I'm running xubuntu 11.04 and I've added some other desktops (Unity 3D and 2D, Gnome)
[13:17] <cptklotz> But the login screen doesn't display a choice of session types by default
[13:18] <cptklotz> I can misspell my user name and then I'll get to choose the session type among other stuff
[13:18] <Fleck> i use kdm :)
[13:18] <Fleck> theres a nice menu
[13:18] <chaddy> which *dm are you using?
[13:18] <chaddy> probably xdm?
[13:18] <cptklotz> I think that should be the GDM one
[13:18] <chaddy> try gdm or kdm or xdm, don't know of any others offhand
[13:19] <mathAgentine> ZykoticK9:  are you there?
[13:19] <Autoclesis> best laptops for ubuntu are lenovos and acers?
[13:20] <cptklotz> I tried editing the custom.conf file in /etc/gdm, but I'm not sure I can make it always display a list of session types
[13:20] <wvd> So, I have problems with a Tascam US-144mk2 device. After reading some tutorials it's clear that it's needed to disable ehci_hcd. Only problem is that we don't have the ehci_hcd module in our kernel - what's the best way out?
[13:21] <astraljava> pgold36: Right, yeah sorry I couldn't be of further assistance. You could also file a bug about it, but search for other existing ones first, so as to not pollute the database with duplicates.
[13:21] <chaddy> lxdm, too, apparently
[13:21] <Loqus> Does anyone know about VLAN, dhclient and ping interactions?
[13:22] <mathAgentine> what kind of files are the ones in /var/cache/apt/archives DEBs ?
[13:23] <jcgs> mathAgentine: they're software packages
[13:23] <bobbyd> Loqus: state your problem
[13:24] <om4rezz> netmind:
[13:25] <jcgs> mathAgentine: does that help?
[13:25] <Loqus> 5 port VLAN switch. 1 going to PC, 4 going to 4 ISPs. Each of the 4 ISP ports is mapped to a VID of 11, 12, 13 and 14; with corresponding VLAN interfaces on my PC.
[13:25] <mathAgentine> jcgs:  those belongs to an already installed software or before installation pacages?
[13:25] <mathAgentine> jcgs:  yas but I'm a bit slow :(
[13:26] <Loqus> I run dhclient on eth0.11 (1st port), and I get an IP / connection to Internet and can ping www.google.com.
[13:26] <jcgs> mathAgentine: no worries :) they're the ones that the package manager downloaded while it was installing software
[13:27] <jcgs> mathAgentine: does that help?
[13:27] <Loqus> I then run dhclient on eth0.12 and again, I now get IP etc on eth0.12... but using ping -I eth0.11 I should be able to still ping www.google.com... but I can't. TCP dum p shows the pings going out and being rrturned on the interface for eth0.11, but ping doesn't render them.
[13:27] <Loqus> Why does ping not render them?
[13:27] <mathAgentine> jcgs:  I'm tryng to figure out a way to pass installed software to anothe identical machine
[13:27] <mathAgentine> jcgs: yes it helps
[13:27] <jcgs> mathAgentine: what do you mean? like make a disk image and install that?
[13:28] <Loqus> ..I can go on to run dhclient on any interface out of the 4 VLANs, and each time I get a connection, but lose the ability to ping on all the others.
[13:28] <jcgs> mathAgentine:or just install exactly the same software, without having to download it fomr the internet
[13:28] <Loqus> ...although I can see the pings going out and being echod in TCPdump
[13:28] <mathAgentine> no, I need separate softwares
[13:29] <mathAgentine> is to use with mi students and they don't have internet acces
[13:29] <dw-> should i use wine 1.2 or 1.3 for Steam/Tf2
[13:30] <mathAgentine> I need to pass the programs I nedd to work in class with them
[13:30] <jcgs> can't you tell them to install them before they come to the class?
[13:30] <Loqus> BobbyD apologies if that's not particularily descriptive, but it's a complex setup :)
[13:31] <mathAgentine> jcgs:  it semd that I haven't the repends commad ¿can it be?
[13:31] <jcgs> what is repends?
[13:31] <mathAgentine> the will not do this willingly
[13:32] <Pici> !offline | mathAgentine this may be helpful
[13:32] <jcgs> mathAgentine: if you burn the debs to a disk, then the students can install them onto their own machines, but only if they have ubuntu
[13:32] <mathAgentine> A command that was tols to use in this channel in order to detect dependences of a deb  package
[13:34] <mathAgentine> I've already downloaded a few deb packages but when I tried to indtall them in their machines I've missing dependences
[13:34] <Gryllida> mathAgentine, then install these dependenccies.
[13:34] <mathAgentine> jcgs: i'm tryng to solve this problem
[13:34] <Pici> mathAgentine: http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ this will help you find and download those dependencies.
[13:35] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Ubuntu Doesn't have a Packagefull DVD?
[13:35] <mathAgentine> bot it  will took me several classes and mean while i couldn't work with them
[13:35] <mathAgentine> Pici: thanks
[13:36] <rah> I have a machine with Jaunty onit
[13:36] <dr_willis> MAREK_BENC_NetB,  the dvd version has addational languages and perhaps a few other little differances.
[13:36] <dr_willis> !jaunty
[13:36] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Aha, so it's not like debian has?
[13:36] <dr_willis> Time to upgrade your Jaunty :)
[13:36] <rah> the upgrade manager says it can't upgrade from Jaunty to Lucid
[13:36] <rah> what can I do?
[13:36] <dr_willis> MAREK_BENC_NetB,  i dont use debian. so no idea
[13:36] <rah> dr_willis: how?
[13:36] <dr_willis> !EOL | rah
[13:36] <jcgs> mathAgentine: if you don't mind me saying so, this seems a really bizzare way of dealing with this, since the whole system is really designed to be backed by internet repositories, to which the system on which the software being installed is supposed to have access
[13:37] <jcgs> mathAgentine: if you wanted you could burn a disk with all the dependencies you think they're unlikely to already have access to, but that would be very inefficient
[13:38] <vivekimsit> Hiii
[13:38] <mathAgentine> jcgs:  no problem what you're saying
[13:38] <jcgs> mathAgentine are all the machines on which the software is being installed running ubuntu or some variant therof?
[13:38] <klingelbart> ?
[13:38] <vivekimsit> i have the image path and i want to show it in openoffice
[13:38] <vivekimsit> any solution
[13:39] <Auriga> Is anyone using an E model Nokia? What App is the best for syncing & or backing up a Nokia phone?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:39] <rinkukokiri> can someone please answer me as to why youtube causes my system to freeze?
[13:39] <mathAgentine> jcgs: since 2010 the national govern of my country leased netbooks to all the tacher and estudents of the public schools
[13:39] <rinkukokiri> it's only youtube
[13:39] <rinkukokiri> and it's only  on non live content
[13:39] <mathAgentine> jcgs: they come with win 7 and ubuntu lynx
[13:40] <dr_willis> rinkukokiri,  probery how they are doing flash and the ads... You could try the HTML5 version of youtube  ->  www.youtube.com/html5
[13:40] <rinkukokiri> ever since they upgraded to their latest BS code, youtube has been nothing but problems
[13:40] <mathAgentine> but we don't have internet at the school for public use yet
[13:40] <dimas> i am trying to connect to a server application but says that can not start a client as the server is running or maybe set as admin...how i fix this?...i already granted me the use of the service
[13:41] <quarterz50> hello
[13:41] <BluesKaj> rinkukokiri, what's live on youtube ?.also what browser ?
[13:41] <mathAgentine> jcgs:  so the only way I can promote linux use is passing mi students the programs i need
[13:41] <dr_willis> dimas,  what sort of server?
[13:41] <dimas> dr_willis jackd
[13:41] <rinkukokiri> BluesKaj, every browser, chrome, chromium, firefox
[13:41] <rinkukokiri> BluesKaj, and for one, the KC anthony trial is live.
[13:42] <rinkukokiri> but I have no problems with live content
[13:42] <rinkukokiri> so that's not the issue
[13:42] <mathAgentine> jcgs:  the macinnes are all with ubuntu Lynx 10.10
[13:42] <cjs>  I did a do-release-upgrade on my 10.10 server (a virtual host running under KVM) and now when it boots I just get a grub prompt. (It's grub 1.98-ubuntu6.) I don't recall if this was originally a 10.04 system upgraded to 10.10 or if it was an install of 10.10. Any thoughts on where I should go from here?
[13:43] <mathAgentine> jcgs: hello
[13:44] <BluesKaj> rinkukokiri, have you tried reinstaling flash?  , sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer
[13:44] <jcgs> !aptoncd | mathAgentine
[13:44] <rah> dr_willis: I've followed the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty
[13:44] <bryan_> hi der is there someone to help me get install some driver plz
[13:44] <rinkukokiri> BluesKaj, it happens in windows and linux
[13:44] <rinkukokiri> i doubt it's a flash problem
[13:44] <rinkukokiri> because it's ONLY youtube
[13:44] <Loqus> Is anyone knowledgable with VLANs, Multiple WAN connections and routing?
[13:44] <dr_willis> rah,  i never upgrade.. i always do clean reinstalls...
[13:44] <jcgs> mathAgentine: I'm just trying it out now, but i think that might be what you need
[13:44] <rinkukokiri> and so far, html5 hasn't caused any problems
[13:44] <mathAgentine> ubottu:  does it works with pendrives?
[13:45] <mathAgentine> I've netbboks without cd
[13:45] <BluesKaj> um, then I think you should complain in yuoutube , rinkukokiri
[13:45] <rah> dr_willis: you can't help me then?
[13:45] <phux> bryan_: Asking if anyone uses, knows, is good with, can help you with  or is a guru/expert of <some program> rarely generates a  response. You'll probably get help faster by asking the real  question.
[13:45] <rah> does anybody know how I can upgrade from jaunty to karmic and/or lucid?
[13:45] <mathAgentine> JCGS YES i know so i've explained the situation
[13:46] <jcgs> mathAgentine: if the worst comes to the worst you can copy an iso onto the pendrive, and get your students to mount is
[13:46] <jamesiarmes_> I have a customer who notified us this morning that they could not access their we application. When I logged into the server I found considerably more apache processes than usual, but it still should not have been enough to bring down the server. I stopped apahce and found that there were still 114 processes in uninteruptable sleep, some of which started on Sunday. I killed the processes and started apache and they can access their application now.
[13:46] <jamesiarmes_> Looking through the logs, I found that I have been getting the following error since about the time many of those processes started: "PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery". I am still getting the error now but I can't determine what it means. Above all of those errores is starts with:
[13:46] <jamesiarmes_> "page 53: illegal page type or format
[13:46] <jamesiarmes_> PANIC: Invalid argument
[13:46] <jamesiarmes_> PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
[13:46] <FloodBot1> jamesiarmes_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:46] <bryan_> how to get driver for my gamepad on ubuntu
[13:46] <jfcaron> Does anyone know whatever happened to the whole gNote vs Tomboy debacle a while ago?  Has either one of them "won out" or something?  I'm having trouble finding recent news.
[13:46] <jamesiarmes_> Sorry, I copied and pasted and didn't realize it was going to do that :-\
[13:46] <klingelbart> how can i find out wether i'm using gnome 2 or 3?
[13:46] <rinkukokiri> BluesKaj, and yes, i have tried reinstalling flash, just about every version that's out there, adobe's version and the free versions
[13:47] <rinkukokiri> I've even used flashvideoreplacer,
[13:47] <WilsonJr> hi all
[13:47] <bryan_> hi
[13:47] <rinkukokiri> this html5 is working great so far though
[13:47] <phux> bryan_: google linux driver +gamepadname ?
[13:47]  * rinkukokiri thanks whoever suggested html5
[13:47] <dimas> dr_willis i am trying to access the sound card throw jackd(sound server) who administer it...so the program i am trying to open is ardour and says the jackd it maybe running by another name, perhaps admin
[13:47] <Devil_Pumbba> go my website www.piadasnerds.com, very good blog, with funny stories, comic stripes, HQ, videos and more
[13:48] <thiebaude> !offtopic
[13:48] <Loqus> Is anyone knowledgable with VLANs, Multiple WAN connections and routing?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Loqus, just ask your question with the details
[13:49] <phux> !anyone
[13:49] <dimas> thiebaude i am trying to properly configure some app provided by ubuntu so i hope you dont mind
[13:49] <klingelbart> yo
[13:49] <klingelbart> how can i find out wether i'm using gnome 2 or 3?
[13:49] <thiebaude> dimas, dont mind what?
[13:49] <jatt> System->About GNOME
[13:49] <bryan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=428469
[13:50] <klingelbart> how can i find out wether i'm using gnome 2 or 3?
[13:50] <dimas> thiebaude would you read what i ask mr_willis?....maybe you can help me
[13:50] <bryan_> this is not very good for me ..i dont understand  seem they havent fix the thing
[13:50] <Loqus> I've asked it about 10 times and it's  alittle lenghty - thought I'd try to target it instead ;)
[13:50] <thiebaude> ok i will
[13:50] <thiebaude> dimas:
[13:50] <jatt> System->About GNOME
[13:50] <mathAgentine> jcgs: thaks this is a posibility but they couldn't work at home (as if the would do that)
[13:51] <BluesKaj> !who | jatt
[13:51] <thiebaude> dimas: i just got here so i cant scroll all the way up
[13:51] <Loqus> I have multiple VLAN interfaces specified. When I run dhclient on them, I can only ping out the one I ran it on last - using ping -I INTERFACE I can see pings goign out and returning responses through TCP dump, but Ping doesn't render them.
[13:51] <bryan_> phux are  you here
[13:52] <jcgs> mathAgentine: if you go here http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ and follow the instructions, that's what you need i think
[13:52] <thiebaude> dimas: what problem you having?
[13:52] <rah> to upgrade from one release to another, can I add appropriate lines to source.list and to an apt-get dist-upgrade?
[13:52] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> rah: Works for me  that way
[13:52] <rah> ok thanks
[13:53] <nevstah> hi, i've got stuck trying to format a partition, its not in use, but when i try to format, it says its busy. i've just partitioned it, nothing else. it doesnt even show with blkid :( any ideas? see http://pastebin.com/acbFpCr3
[13:53] <jcgs> rah: there is an upgrade manager, which might make things a bit easier, because it advises of incompatibilities
[13:53] <BluesKaj> Loqus, VLAN interfaces?
[13:53] <WilsonJr> peoples, i need practice english, anybody any channel for this?
[13:53] <Loqus> Yes,
[13:53] <WilsonJr> lol
[13:53] <Northernen> Which good C++ IDEs are there for Linux?
[13:54] <thiebaude> wilson which language?
[13:54] <jatt> emacs
[13:54] <Loqus> so I add 4 VLAN interfaces on a physical ethernet interface, then attache a managed 5 port switch with the other 4 ingress ports tagged to the 4 VLAN interfaces VIDs
[13:54] <dimas> thiebaude i am trying to understand how it works with the users in ubuntu...cause i have set up this name as user but i am the only user which it means i am the admin altough i am trying to access a audio server (jackd) throw ardour and says that cant open jackd cause maybe running in another name perhaps admin
[13:54] <phux> bryan_: yep
[13:54] <balou> Hi.  I haven't managed to get grub to load my windows 7 that is currently installed on my second harddrive.  I have looked at  some google results that seemed promising and the Ubuntu community Grub2 page, but still haven't found a way to do it correctly.   http://pastebin.com/NHd8nYnm  is the output from the boot script tool.  I would really appreciate if someone could advise.
[13:55] <Voziv> Hello, is there a feature matrix to compare the server editions? I'm leaning towards 10.04 because of the long term support, but I wanted to know what the big differences are in terms of features
[13:55] <bryan_> sorry i got this page but cant manage
[13:55] <thiebaude> dimas, im not sure about users, because i have always been 1 user on buntu machine
[13:55] <dimas> lol
[13:55] <varunthacker> Silly question but how do you open this man page on the command line : http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/online/pages/man2/open.2.html
[13:55] <mathAgentine> Pici I went to the site you recomended but I couldn't found the package I searched: kbruch
[13:55] <dimas> oke
[13:55] <thiebaude> i dont know too much about that, sorry
[13:55] <thiebaude> :)
[13:56] <varunthacker> man open returns a different man page
[13:56] <jcgs> WilsonJr: how about #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[13:56] <Pici> mathAgentine: Works for me: http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/?repo=Lucid&arch=i386&package=kbruch&have=ubuntu-desktop
[13:56] <thiebaude> or an ubuntu help cahnnel in his or her language
[13:57] <dimas> Voziv..upgrade..is a free platform so stroggle a little and help find out about the few bugs
[13:57] <balou> Sorry, I forgot to say,  the errors I am getting are: "error: no such devices:  IE58E26258E237E3"  and "errors: no such partition"
[13:57] <Pici> mathAgentine: Thats i386 on Lucid, and I suspect you already have a base ubuntu-desktop installed.
[13:58] <rah> jcgs: the update-manager apparently isn't capable of upgrading from jaunty
[13:58] <WilsonJr> thiebaude english
[13:58] <thiebaude> ok thanks wil
[13:58] <Voziv> dimas: What are the differences? This is a fresh install and not an upgrade
[13:58] <Pici> WilsonJr: ##english
[13:58] <thiebaude> WilsonJr: ubuntu-offtopic as was suggested earlier :)
[13:59] <thiebaude> if its offtopic that is
[13:59] <dimas> Vorziv one is newer than the other
[13:59] <bryan_> thx phux for help   i leave  now
[13:59] <Voziv> >.>
[13:59] <jcgs> rah:  no idea why that is. happy upgrading anyway :)
[13:59] <WilsonJr> ok ok, thanks for all! i try it
[14:00] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> I got banned from Offtopic :D!!! XDXD
[14:03] <jcgs> Voziv: the names are for different versions, they're in alphabetical order. lucid lynx is long term support which means that bugs will go on being fixed in it for 4-6 years (i think) rather than 1year for other versions, but people can upgrade to newer versions as and when they become available, because it's free. however, newer versions which have more features are often somewhat less reliable, so it's a trade off
[14:03] <mathAgentine> Pici I've visited the site you told me (http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/) is seems to me that I need the meta packages of the programs ¿The metapackages contains all the possibly dependences of a program?
[14:04] <iceroot> what is the common way if using raid 1 for encryption? encrypt sda and sdb and then build a raid from them or build a raid and encrypt md?
[14:04] <jcgs> Voziv: the newest released version is maverick meerkat, which will be superseeded by natty narwhal in septermbet
[14:04] <Pici> mathAgentine: you need to enter the name of the meta package that you already have installed. i.e: ubuntu-desktop if you are running Ubuntu, or kubuntu-desktop if you are running Kubuntu.
[14:04] <Pici> jcgs: Natty Narwhal was relased in april.
[14:04] <mathAgentine> Pici: thanks
[14:05] <Pici> jcgs: Release numbers are the YEAR.MONTH of release.
[14:06] <jcgs> Pici: oops shited by one :S
[14:06] <jcgs> *shifted
[14:06] <Voziv> Thanks jcgs, but I was looking at features, I got my answer on ubutu server though
[14:07] <jcgs> Voziv: glad to hear it, obviously, in general newer -> more features
[14:07] <mathAgentine> Pici:   what is a base deskstop?
[14:07] <jamesiarmes_> I have a customer who notified us this morning that they could not access their we application. When I logged into the server I found considerably more apache processes than usual, but it still should not have been enough to bring down the server. I stopped apahce and found that there were still 114 processes in uninteruptable sleep, some of which started on Sunday. I killed the processes and started apache and they can access their application now.
[14:07] <jamesiarmes_> Looking through the logs, I found that I have been getting the following error since about the time many of those processes started: "PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery". I am still getting the error now but I can't determine what it means. Above all of those errores is starts with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/638439/
[14:07] <soziety> hello, I am in xubuntu 10.04, when I connect to my vpn don't alert with popup (vpn conection stablished) I'd like add a code with this function in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d any idea (sorry my english)
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Loqus, I'm afraid your description sounds like advanced IT lingo which most ppl here haven't encountered before ...example : VLAN=Very Large Area Network ?
[14:09] <jcgs> BluesKaj VLAN= virtual local area network
[14:09] <Pici> mathAgentine: ubuntu-desktop in most cases.
[14:09] <mathAgentine> Pici:  thanks for the explanation
[14:09] <mathAgentine> kbruch_4.4.2-0ubuntu2
[14:09] <BluesKaj> jcgs, thanks :)
[14:09] <mathAgentine> Pici: sorry I've downloades kbruch_4.4.2-0ubuntu2_i386
[14:10] <jcgs> jamiesarmies_: do you have any idea what page 53 is?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> virtual sounds even more difficult
[14:11] <jcgs> Loqus: are you sure this is definitely a problem at the computer end, not with the router? can you get access to the router's settings?
[14:11] <mathAgentine> but wen i've tryng to install it , the libkdecore (>=4:4,5) missing
[14:11] <jamesiarmes_> jcgs: no idea. Most of what I find on google deals with LDAP and BDB but we don't use either
[14:11] <jcgs> jamiesarmies_: can you post the full log without compromising privacy?
[14:11] <Northernen> Is there any way to troubleshoot which processes are claiming more and more memory?
[14:12] <jcgs> Northernen other than killing them?
[14:12] <Northernen> jcgs, memory usage just keeps on rising, even though I'm not starting any new processes, and I don't know why.
[14:12] <dr_willis> top/htop can sort by menory ussage
[14:12] <dr_willis> Northernen,  sure its not disk cache?
[14:13] <Northernen> dr_willis, pardon?
[14:14] <jamesiarmes_> jcgs: that's all that's in the log, it just keeps repeating the "PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery" line, thousands of times. There are a few GnuTLS errors above, which I pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/638441/
[14:14] <dr_willis> !ram
[14:15] <Northernen> Should the disk really cache so much that the system is forced to use swap?
[14:15] <mbt> No, the kernel should shrink the cache as memory pressure from applications increases...
[14:16] <balou> I think I found my problem.  The first time I tried to install ubuntu on my secondary drive it installed grub into the primary drives MBR (where windows 7 lives).  Then when I tried to do it all again, I swapped my secondary and primary drives, so that I was now installing ubuntu onto my primary.  After this ubuntu would load fine, and the boot loader would also display Windows as an option.  Trying to go into windows, however, failed 
[14:16] <Northernen> Now I feel silly... Thanks for help.
[14:17] <rhin01> anyone aware of a problem with vinagre (remote desktop) not updating screen (essentially not working) on client
[14:17] <balou> I am now thinking this is because my intial attempt left some grub stuff on the windows harddrive MBR, so when windows tries to start it's MBR isn't quite right?
[14:18] <balou> is there a way for me to do bootrec from ubuntu to fix my windows MBR that is currently on my secondary harddrive where  windows is installed?
[14:18] <dr_willis> the mbr is only a little bit. If the system boots - then the mbr has done its kob..
[14:18] <balou> dr_willis:But the system doesn't boot into windows.
[14:18] <dr_willis> if you want to fix the mbr. you should use a windows rescue cd. and fix it.
[14:18] <balou> it only boots into ubunt
[14:19] <balou> I don't have a windows rescue cd
[14:19] <jcgs> jamiesarmies_: are you sure that something connected to apache isn't using berkely db? or something related to it?
[14:19] <dr_willis> MS has them you can download i recall...
[14:19] <dr_willis> minimal rescue cd images
[14:19] <balou> i'll try to find one
[14:19] <Northernen> balou, are you able to see the grub menu at all?
[14:20] <dr_willis> its possible its not grub related but some windows issue. or it may be you some how removed some files/boot partition that windows was using.
[14:20] <dr_willis> Or the grub entry is just incorrect and booting the wrong partition
[14:20] <soziety> hello, I am in xubuntu 10.04, when I connect to my vpn don't alert with popup (vpn conection stablished) I'd like add a code with this function in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d any idea (sorry my english)
[14:20] <lapaga> balou, when you say you then switched drives and installed to the windows drive did you use the whole disk?
[14:20] <balou> Northernen: Yes I see the menu with all the options I want on it.   And I can successfully log into ubuntu.  It's just when I try to go to windows, that i get those errors
[14:21] <jcgs> sorry chaps! have to tidy my room >.<
[14:22] <balou> lapaga:  I switched the drives, so that the new primary did not have windows on it.  I installed ubuntu there.  So the only thing that could have changed from my secondary (where windows is installed) is the MBR from my first failed attemp to install ubuntu.  In my first attempt I was trying to install ubuntu to the secondary drive, which worked, but I think grub was put onto the windows drive because it was the primary at the time.
[14:22] <jamesiarmes_> jcgs: how could I tell that? I don't have mod_bdb enabled
[14:22] <Galeo> Hi. I'm currently trying to get a file from a non-working computer, using unetbootin and Ubuntu 10_04 live, but whenever the computer starts, I only get "SYSLINUX 4.03 2010-10-22 EDD Copyright (c) 1994-2010, H. Peter Anvin et al", has someone a clue to what I could do, or has a link to a valid answer in forums ? Thanks.
 I pasted my grub config http://pastebin.com/NHd8nYnm earlier
[14:23] <edbian> Galeo: Why is the target machine not working?
[14:23] <AFD> any ideas on how to remove gdm from an ubuntu server 10.04 install
[14:23] <jamesiarmes_> jcgs: I do have libdb4.6 which is described as "Berkeley v4.6 Database Libraries"
[14:24] <edbian> AFD: sudo aptitude purge gdm   :)
[14:24] <edbian> AFD: It will want to remove all of gnome probably
[14:24] <mathAgentine> Pici:  jcgs Zycotic9 thaks all of you for your time and you help
[14:26] <AFD> edbian it's not purging :(
[14:26] <AFD> I'm using sudo
[14:27] <AFD> and tried apt-get and apt-get remove too...
[14:27] <edbian> AFD: what's it doing?
[14:27] <edbian> AFD: error?  yelling at you?
[14:27] <AFD> edbian 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded
[14:27] <AFD> says gdm is not installed
[14:28] <edbian> AFD: Than it isn't  When you boot do you get a graphical login screen?
[14:28] <glenn_> join /ubuntu-nlµ
[14:28] <glenn_> how can i get the pannelbar back in gnome ubuntu
[14:29] <rhin01> anyone know why vinagre doesn't update the screen on the client (11.04 client to 10.04 server) (vinagre is remote desktop)
[14:29] <AFD> edbian if I startx then I get to what looks like gdm
[14:29] <edbian> AFD: Perhaps that's xdm ?  What happens when you boot?
[14:29] <AFD> edbian I installed icewm after the server install and then a package installed gnome afterwards
[14:30] <AFD> edbian sorry - when I boot it's just CLI and then I startx
[14:30] <edbian> AFD: run start x, log in, lemme see the output of ps -e
[14:30] <edbian> AFD: That def sounds like GDM is not installed then.  But let me see ps -e anyway
[14:31] <mathAgentine> sorry for the basic question but What  exactly means this phrase: After you have downloaded these packages, put them in a directory and transfered that to your Ubuntu system,
[14:31] <mathAgentine> what is tha name of the Ubuntu system, directory?
[14:32] <AFD> edbian http://pastebin.com/JuHffsMB
[14:32] <glda19> what is the standard name of the gnome panels
[14:32] <edbian> glda19: gnome-panel
[14:33] <glda19> edbian can you do somthing for me
[14:33] <edbian> AFD: I don't see any DM here.  not KDM, GDM, or XDM
[14:33] <edbian> still looking
[14:33] <edbian> glda19: maybe
[14:33] <AFD> edbian gnome-settings is there
[14:33] <john_rambo>  what is causing that black area ? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30630174/lubuntu.png ... When I move the a window over it it goes away
[14:34] <edbian> AFD: yeah... gnome-settings is not gdm
[14:34] <edbian> It's not a display manager at all.
[14:34] <AFD> edbian gnome-panel?
[14:34] <edbian> AFD: also not gdm
[14:34] <edbian> AFD: Perhaps you're confused about what GDM is
[14:35] <glda19> how can i get my upper gnome-panel back
[14:35] <edbian> glda19: right click the bottom one, click add new panel
[14:36] <glda19> ebian thats not working
[14:36] <AFD> edbian I may be - but I know what the gnome panel looks like... it has the ubuntu icon in the corner etc
[14:37] <edbian> glda19: Can you elaborate?  What specifically are you doing that isn't working?
[14:37] <AFD> has what looks like the clear-looks icon
[14:37] <edbian> AFD: You can have the gnome-panel without GDM   You can have all the rest of gnome without GDM
[14:37] <glda19> i have istalled cairo dock and now i my panel where i can see location system and so on is gone
[14:38] <AFD> edbian I think that must be it
[14:38] <Marticus> good morning
[14:38] <edbian> glda19: You can add those icons to the panel you do have.  It's called main menu
[14:39] <AFD> edbian thanks for the help... I'd have been scratching my head till I was bald without it ;)
[14:39] <edbian> AFD: GDM is just the graphical login scren
[14:39] <edbian> AFD :)
[14:39] <AFD> edbian ciao for now
[14:39] <glda19> edian i hav no panel
[14:39] <edbian> glda19: I'm not sure why adding cairo dock would remove a panel, you could stop using cairo
[14:39] <edbian> glda19: no panels at all?
[14:39] <Marticus> in the latest version, there is a mac-like button bar on the left. What is it called so that I may find out how to configure it?
[14:39] <glda19> yes no panels at all
[14:40] <edbian> glda19: Do you have a gnome-panel process running?
[14:40] <perlsyntax> how do i get a broadcom 4311 to work in ubuntu?
[14:40] <glda19> how can i see that
[14:41] <edbian> glda19: using ps -e or the gnome system-monitor GUI
[14:41] <edbian> perlsyntax: You install firmware-b43-installer     (easiest if you're online)
[14:41] <corrytonapple> I am running Ubuntu 11.04 with GNOME 2.  I have a dark panel, and the dark font is hard to read.  How do I make the font white?
[14:41] <perlsyntax> i try that did work
[14:41] <perlsyntax>  Would this matter if my wireless card blue light now on
[14:42] <Marticus> corrytonapple: type gnome in the search and click on appearance
[14:42] <edbian> perlsyntax: sudo modprobe b43 (or restart the machine)
[14:42] <Pici> corrytonapple: System>Preferences>Appearance, font either has its own tab, or its under the themes tab.
[14:42] <edbian> perlsyntax: The light doesn't concern me either way
[14:42] <perlsyntax> what you mean edbian
[14:43] <Marticus> so what provides the new silly os-x-esque button bar so that I can customize it?
[14:43] <edbian> perlsyntax: run sudo modprobe b43   (to turn the driver on) or restart the machine.  What is confusing you?
[14:43] <corrytonapple> Pici:  How would I go about changing the color of the font though?
[14:43] <glda19> ebian no there is no gnome-panel process
[14:43] <perlsyntax> sorry i ask then
[14:43] <edbian> glda19: then run gnome-panel   in a terminal to turn them back on.  It might kill cairo-dock
[14:43] <edbian> perlsyntax: ?
[14:43] <Pici> corrytonapple: Its either in there, or you may be able to affect the color by using the color settings inside the theme preferences.
[14:44] <Marticus> corrytonapple: choose the theme and click customize
[14:44] <Pici> corrytonapple: I don't have a graphical desktop in front of my to check where exactly the settings are.
[14:44] <Marticus> corrytonapple: while you'
[14:44] <corrytonapple> The Text is set to white everywhere
[14:44] <corrytonapple> System-Wide
[14:44] <Marticus> while you're there, look at the other config options so you know what is available in case you want to change more, without needing to ask
[14:44] <perlsyntax> i did that i see no wireless.
[14:45] <edbian> perlsyntax: Do you have a /lib/firmware/b43   folder with stuff in it?
[14:45] <glda19> edbian, thy  are back
[14:45] <Marticus> corrytonapple: create a new user, login with that user, see if it still happens
[14:45] <edbian> glda19: fixed?
[14:45] <edbian> :)
[14:45] <Marticus> if it doesn't then wipe your gnome config dirs
[14:45] <corrytonapple> Marticus:  Trust me, I have looked through there.  I am quite experienced with this.  But, the top panel will not have it go white
[14:45] <glda19> edbian yes
[14:45] <edbian> glda19: Glad I could help :)
[14:46] <corrytonapple> Marticus:  ok
[14:46] <edbian> glda19: For the record.  removing cairo dock and restarting would have also worked
[14:46] <brainwave92> how to get info about a package without installing it from cli?
[14:46] <edbian> brainwave92: aptitude show packageName
[14:46] <glda19> edbian how can i test it that the gnome-panels are working with out reboot
[14:47] <brainwave92> will it give information about the package?
[14:47] <Marticus> corrytonapple: backup the dirs first :)
[14:47] <edbian> glda19: Are they working now?  I'm confused what you're asking
[14:47] <corrytonapple> Marticus:  Where are they?
[14:47] <edbian> brainwave92: yeah
[14:48] <sako> hey guys so i have a dual boot with ubuntu and archlinux at work, anyone able to get it working using grub via archlinux install?
[14:48] <brainwave92> What is the easiest way to backup files in linux?
[14:48] <sako> i'd rather use 0.9.7 that comes with arch, the newer grub sucks :/
[14:48] <brainwave92> sako, newer grub as in grub2?
[14:48] <glda19> edbian where can i set how is automaticly loged in
[14:48] <sako> brainwave92: ya
[14:49] <edbian> glda19: I'm not sure.  I would just reboot and see what starts.  I'm guessing it'll start whatever was running when you logged out last.
[14:49] <Marticus> good lord, the launcher config options are pathetic, only one setting to control the activation hotspot, surely there are more options somewhere?
[14:49] <sako> brainwave92: though i suspect its ubuntu being dumb, having all sorts of issues with plymouth and resolutions during boot
[14:49] <Marticus> corrytonapple: dunno, I think look for .gnome*
[14:49] <corrytonapple> Would they be in home?
[14:50] <brainwave92> sako, (life's simple..!) whats the exact issue?????
[14:50] <joeyJoel_> Hi, can I get some help w/ubuntu
[14:50] <corrytonapple> !help | joeyJoel_
[14:51] <joeyJoel_> Sorry, my first time here
[14:51] <joeyJoel_> Hi, I have a MAC G4, single 125 gig processor, dual mirror door, that went bad.  I downloaded  ubuntu, burned it to a cd, but it does not boot, or run... I like help in 1`, getting it to be correct in format, and 2, installing it on my mac
[14:51] <brainwave92> joeyJoel_, what is a dual mirror door?
[14:52] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_: Its fine.  Anyway, how did it go bad?
[14:52] <corrytonapple> brainwave92:  It is a type of PowerMac
[14:52] <joeyJoel_> It is a MAC that they called superdrive, it had an optical reader, and seperate burner
[14:52] <corrytonapple> Its the one I want to get.  We had some old G3s, but anyway....
[14:53] <joeyJoel_> It's a very good machine
[14:53] <brainwave92> aint a mac user...we dont see them around here much....
[14:53] <Galaxor> Hi.  I just got 11.04 and I'm using the default "ambiance" theme.  In gnome-terminal, in the tabbox, there is not enough contrast between the active tab and the inactive tabs.  How do I change those colors (subtly)?
[14:53] <corrytonapple> I will try to get one soon.....
[14:53] <joeyJoel_> the reading i did, say the mac  is the eaiest to convert
[14:54] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_: I did not know that.  I though Acer laptops were pretty easy to convert
[14:54] <corrytonapple> I would bet Ubuntu runs great on it.
[14:54] <joeyJoel_> MAC is either unix or lynix based
[14:55] <joeyJoel_> I can boot beneath the os, and go entirely with command lines
[14:55] <corrytonapple> But, first we must get it to work.  Yes, OS X is Unix based
[14:55] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  You mean like you are willing to, or that is what you are getting?
[14:55] <joeyJoel_> ?
[14:56] <corrytonapple> You said "I can boot beneath the os, and go entirely with command lines"
[14:56] <reseph_> Hi all. I'm attempting to launch Ubuntu on LiveCD and it's throwing me into initramfs. Why?
[14:57] <dev00p> hello
[14:57] <edbian> reseph_: Because something is wrong.  Perhaps it's a bad CD.  Do you see any errors about I/O error on sr0  ?
[14:57] <joeyJoel_> i'll rephrase - the machine can now boot. I can boot it into the single user mode,unix, or the windows ox.  I want to change the os to ubuntu.  I already downloaded the ubuntu os, I just nerred to install
[14:57] <reseph_> edbian: I'm seeing things like "target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init"
[14:57] <joeyJoel_> sorry my typing sucks
[14:57] <dev00p> uhmm, does someone knows whats going on with playdeb
[14:58] <dev00p> im just getting blank page
[14:58] <ikonia> dev00p: they have their own support resources
[14:58] <edbian> reseph_: The target filesystem is the CD.  It's incomplete.  I think you have a bad burn or a bad image.
[14:58] <edbian> reseph_: for the record USB sticks are more reliable
[14:58] <reseph_> I'm actually using a 4GB USB
[14:59] <edbian> reseph_: Remake the stick
[14:59] <reseph_> Will do
[14:59] <glda19>  /msg NickServ identify glennd19
[14:59] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_: iKnow what you mean.  :)
[14:59] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_: Once sec
[14:59] <joeyJoel_> I may have not made the copy correctly.  the download, i think is a disk image
[14:59] <glda19> i have problem to login
[14:59] <edbian> reseph_: It drops to initramfs or busybox when it can't boot
[14:59] <ikonia> glda19: you've just given us your password, ask for help in #freenode
[14:59] <corrytonapple> glda19:  You did the identify in the wrong place
[15:00] <joeyJoel_> I am not sure if I made the disk correctly so it will boot or install
[15:00] <corrytonapple> ikonia:  I might have just PMed them that message instead of everyone knowing that....
[15:00] <Symmetria> whats the linux kernel boot option to tell it to boot straight into a single user prompt without starting anything OR attempting to mount anything?
[15:00] <ikonia> corrytonapple: good for you
[15:00] <glda19> corrytonapple, where is the good place to identify
[15:00] <Symmetria> I really urgently need to tell this thing not to do a damn thing other than give me a recovery prompt
[15:00] <corrytonapple> glda19:  In the window or tab that says "freenode"
[15:01] <ikonia> glda19: ask in #freenode for irc/network help
[15:01] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  Again, one sec.  I have to handle some stuff
[15:01] <joeyJoel_> to boot into single user mode, it is command s
[15:01] <glda19> corrytonapple, ok
[15:01] <corrytonapple> idkonia:  WTF with the good for you message>
[15:01] <ikonia> corrytonapple: control your language please.
[15:01] <Symmetria> joey just command s from grub?
[15:01] <glda19> i have a problem with my session in ubuntu
[15:01] <corrytonapple> ikonia:  You control your sarcasm.  There was no need for that, and that did not even make sense
[15:02] <ikonia> corrytonapple: there was no need for your comment, - so please, control the language.
[15:02] <andrea_> Bella figaglioli!
[15:02] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  Anyway, try booting it.  If you cannot boot it again, try burning a new disc
[15:02] <andrea_> Andò sta Maria?
[15:02] <joeyJoel_>  yes, when the tones start, hold down the command key, and the letter 's'  you will see a black screen asking for commands
[15:02] <glda19> wy im i login as root when i  give my name on the loginscreen
[15:02] <corrytonapple> ikonia:  I was suggesting that next time you just PM her.  Some bots I am sure watch the channel for that kinda stuff
[15:02] <ikonia> glda19: you can't login as root
[15:03] <ikonia> corrytonapple: I understand what you where suggesting
[15:03] <PythonSnake> Hi how can I remove ark it tells me to remove kubuntu-desktop too
[15:03] <corrytonapple> ikonia:  We good now?  :)
[15:03] <PythonSnake> ?
[15:03] <ikonia> PythonSnake: that is just a meta package, you can remove it safley
[15:03] <ikonia> safley
[15:03] <ikonia> safely
[15:04] <ikonia> PythonSnake: although it does beg the question why you want to remove ark
[15:04] <joeyJoel_> I'm not sure you understand completely, my bad... when I made disk images from mac, I know the format.  the ubuntu disk has many folders.  I am not sure if I should have open all, Before I burned, OR, left it in the folder.  One of those ways , and nothing will be recognied
[15:04] <PythonSnake> ikonia: if i remove kubuntu-desktop, my desktop is gone ?
[15:04] <Symmetria> wow this server drives me nuts when you have to reboot it, it takes a good 6 or 7 minutes before it even STARTS going near the operating system
[15:04] <ikonia> PythonSnake: no, but I'd suggest not removing ark unless you need to
[15:05] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  So did you extract all of the files to the root of the CD, then burn it to make it bootable?
[15:05] <corrytonapple> So there are no more folders?
[15:05] <PythonSnake> ikonia: when i right click on archives and extract them, ark keeps prompting me again and again but i've already ticked ''apply to all''
[15:05] <PythonSnake> is that a bug ?
[15:05] <joeyJoel_> well, thats the quesation... I'm not sure what I need to do. I have the ubuntu  os downloaded, but to install, I have to burn it to cd
[15:05] <ikonia> PythonSnake: I don't know, look in the launchpad.net bug database
[15:06] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  Did you follow the instructions on the download page for mac or windows on how to burn it to a CD?
[15:06] <corrytonapple> You should leave the files the way they are
[15:06] <joeyJoel_> it did not specify
[15:07] <joeyJoel_> it only said, download, then burn to cd
[15:07] <corrytonapple> What OS are you in now joeyJoel?
[15:07] <joeyJoel_> My mac is 10.5.8 ppc - my windows is system 7
[15:08] <AlexDevilLX> Hi All!
[15:08] <corrytonapple> What OS are you using now?  Not what OSes you have.
[15:08] <joeyJoel_> on my mac 10.5.8
[15:08] <AlexDevilLX> What are SDA1,2,3 SD..?
[15:08] <Pici> AlexDevilLX: partitions on sda
[15:09] <AlexDevilLX> joeyJoel_,Whats your problem
[15:09] <joeyJoel_> The  question was unclear - what am I using right now, as I type?
[15:09] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  Okay, then let me ask you if you followed this link?
[15:09] <AlexDevilLX> Pici,and how do they work
[15:09] <joeyJoel_> what link
[15:09] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[15:10] <joeyJoel_> its loading
[15:10] <corrytonapple> Then click "Burn your CD or create a USB drive" then click Mac as your computer
[15:10] <kurt_> Hi, guys! I have a problem with Ubuntu Live CD, can someone help?
[15:10] <corrytonapple> It shows you how.  If you did it that way, you should be good
[15:10] <Pici> AlexDevilLX: What do you mean 'how do they work'?
[15:10] <Dbl_Tap> kurt_: just ask the question
[15:10] <corrytonapple> !help | kurt_
[15:10] <AlexDevilLX> I got lost today in them
[15:10] <kurt_> I can`t start Ubuntu Installation after booting from Live CD.
[15:11] <joeyJoel_> yes, absolutely.  Notice it does NOT explain anything but the order of the steps
[15:11] <kurt_> It`s showing granting rights and nothing after.
[15:11] <corrytonapple> Did you click "Show me How"?
[15:11] <AlexDevilLX> kurt_, so dont boot from live cd
[15:11] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  That last message was ment for you
[15:12] <dattebayo> hey guys i get the driver from "Additional Driver" but it doesnt work and everyutime i need to rename or mv the xorg how can i fix it? my graphic is ati radeon 6490m
[15:12] <kurt_> It won`t install at all, just booting a Live OS
[15:12] <joeyJoel_> at this moment, I can't recall, but I have installed many systems, ubuntu is unique
[15:12] <joeyJoel_> Remember, normally, I would boot from the cd
[15:12] <Pici> joeyJoel_: And thats how Ubuntu works too.
[15:13] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  Yeah it is.  I have tried many, but Enjoy Ubuntu for the support.
[15:13] <joeyJoel_> the machine did not recognize it
[15:13] <ejo> Doing it off a USB flash memory device is faster quieter lots more fun
[15:13] <joeyJoel_> Well, at this moment, I'm home, no extra flash drives
[15:13] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  So it just gives an error or brings you to GRUB or your bootloader.
[15:14] <krisss117> hi i have problem with connect ot my wifi, after update
[15:14] <joeyJoel_> it goes to a blue screen, with nothing
[15:14] <kurt_> So, what is it possible to do? It just don`t want to start an installation, but boots a Live System
[15:14] <krisss117> how i can check, in what step it stack ?
[15:14] <corrytonapple> How long have you waited?  The Live CDs take a while to load
[15:14] <dimas> what exactly does the command "echo"?
[15:14] <AlexDevilLX> shows message on screen
[15:14] <corrytonapple> dimas:  it shows a message on the screen
[15:15] <corrytonapple> Of whatever you type in
[15:15] <corrytonapple> so like echo
[15:15] <AlexDevilLX> echo Hello World! show Hello World!
[15:15] <Sazpaimon> Can someone give me a hand in compiling a 32 bit mplayer on 64 bit ubuntu?
[15:15] <gandhijee> hey how do i install a source rpm on ubuntu?
[15:15] <corrytonapple> so like echo "Hello World!'
[15:15] <Sazpaimon> (without a chroot, preferably)
[15:15] <joeyJoel_> I have the ubuntu os downloaded.  I need to burn it to a cd, or place in a flash drive. The point i'm at, is it is UNmounted in it's downloaded form. I do NOT know wht to do with the raw os
[15:15] <[mickey]> hey everyone new to ubunto and linux here.. everything installed fine but now it keeps on booting to busybox.. and sometime it just panics saying it cant find any root
[15:15] <AlexDevilLX> BTW, you can calculate numbers with it
[15:16] <kurt_> Is it possible to burn on disk Ubuntu Minimal?
[15:16] <dimas> corrytonapple for example this:  echo "/usr/bin/jackd -d alsa -r 44100 -p 256" > ~/.jackdrc
[15:16] <AlexDevilLX> I like linux because it calculates 2+2X2 right
[15:16] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  The .iso you just burn to the CD by following the instructions from that page.
[15:16] <corrytonapple> If it does not work, you may have a bad CD.
[15:16] <AlexDevilLX> while windows gives 8
[15:17] <Pici> !ot | AlexDevilLX
[15:17] <AlexDevilLX> Try verbatim
[15:17] <joeyJoel_> It does not explain the format to install.
[15:17] <joeyJoel_> it only says download, burn, install.
[15:17] <AlexDevilLX> What OS?
[15:17] <joeyJoel_> MAC
[15:17] <Pici> !who | AlexDevilLX
[15:17] <gandhijee> Sazpaimon: install 32bit libs, pass -m32
[15:18] <Pici> joeyJoel_: What 'format'?
[15:18] <AlexDevilLX> !tab
[15:18] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_: Yes, you have to click the "Show Me How" button after you choose your settings
[15:18] <joeyJoel_> I'm totally confused... between typing and reading
[15:18] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  I know, it is crazy
[15:18] <AlexDevilLX>  joeyJoel_, Nero works on windows well
[15:18] <dimas> what exactly does this command and how i change it cause i need to change some parameters?...i mean i dont want to have the two commands
[15:18] <corrytonapple> AlexDevilLX, Please Stop with spamming about Winodws
[15:18] <corrytonapple> *Windows
[15:19] <joeyJoel_> Sorry, I can read... please do not be so redundant with me, as if I were a slug.  My question is valid, and at this point, I'll figure it out myslf
[15:19] <[mickey]> ok back to the forum..
[15:19] <Pici> joeyJoel_: We're trying to help here...
[15:19] <Pici> joeyJoel_: I just don't understand what you mean tby "It does not explain the format to install".
[15:19] <joeyJoel_> I stated the same about 15 times, same answer. Im past that point
[15:19] <[mickey]> joeyJoel_, I'm on a mac, I'll help if I can
[15:19] <WillWork4Foo> Hi all - I have a really annoying issue with Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro. I'm running the amd64 alternative mac install, is there a specific group who work with that or is this channel the place to ask about things?
[15:19] <corrytonapple> joeyJoel_:  We are trying to help.  You are not describing the problem well, so I have to try to figure it out
[15:19] <Sazpaimon> gandhijee, I'm running LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32" CC="gcc -m32" host_alias=i386-unknown-linux-gnu linux32 dpkg-buildpackage -uc -b -ai386 -j9 -nc
[15:20] <AlexDevilLX> corrytonapple: I dont spam, i simply told, how i burned dvd
[15:20] <kurt_> So, can someone help me with my problem here?
[15:20] <[mickey]> I'm afraid I missed ur original question
[15:20] <Sazpaimon> it's still missing some libraries i manually extracted to /usr/lib32
[15:20] <goltoof_1> can't see windows network, actually can't see any network, under Entire network..
[15:20] <bytesaber_work> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes      says (as well as other docs) that I should have a upgrade option to go to 10.10 available in the gui.  So far can't find anything.  Only when 10.04 updates are available.   Ideas?
[15:20] <corrytonapple> AlexDevilLX:  You said how well Nero works on 7.  You keep talking about Windows and not Ubuntu
[15:20] <goltoof_1> can access network in xp vm
[15:20] <joeyJoel_> If anyone is in southernCA, email me, and I'll have you as agues to one of my shows. joel@joeysblues.com.... Thank you all, bye.
[15:20] <gandhijee> Sazpaimon: you might have to tell it where to find hte header files
[15:21] <corrytonapple> Well, I just wasted my time.  *sigh*
[15:21] <cryoniccore> I am trying to get adobe air on my Unbuntu. Does anybody know how to do this?
[15:21] <AlexDevilLX> corrytonapple: sorry for offtopic
[15:21] <dimas> my question is very simple...i need to change the parameters on this command but i dont want to leave what i did before with it...then command is: echo "/usr/bin/jackd -d alsa -r 44100 -p 256" > ~/.jackdrc
[15:21] <corrytonapple> AlexDevilLX:  Its cool  :)
[15:21] <cryoniccore> !adobe
[15:22] <corrytonapple> I am using XChat.  How do I get rid of all this someone joined someone quit stuff?
[15:22] <Pici> dimas: all that does it put the output of the first part of the command into a file at ~/.jackdrc
[15:22] <Pici> !quietxchat > corrytonapple
[15:22] <Pice> Hi, I'm running 10.04 at work, and recently, my workstation keeps losing connection to the server. My only solution thus far is unplugging the ethernet cord for about 5 min and then reconnecting it. Any ideas on how I can remedy this situation?
[15:22] <kurt_> Someone?!
[15:22] <dimas> pici but i want to change it...how i revert what i did and put the new one?
[15:22] <Pici> !someone | kurt_
[15:22] <AI_> corrytonapple: use the ignore-function
[15:22] <sudipta> !iphone
[15:23] <Pici> dimas: That will overwrite the destination file every time it is run.
[15:23] <Mr_Giraffe> hi, I recently ran some routine software updates for Ubuntu Natty, and on rebooting my wireless card no longer worked
[15:23] <corrytonapple> I am doing what the Ubott told em too
[15:23] <dimas> Pici you sure?
[15:23] <kurt_> Why does I can`t start an Ubuntu Isntallation, if my Live System boots normal?!
[15:23] <Pici> dimas: Thats what the > operator means.
[15:23] <AlexDevilLX> !poll
[15:23] <soziety> how can I create a file in /etc/network/ with root permission and execute
[15:23] <sipior> Pice: what changed when the network troubles started?
[15:23] <Pici> !msgthebot > AlexDevilLX
[15:23] <dimas> Pici then i wont have the two commands on it?
[15:23] <Pici> dimas: what?
[15:24] <cryoniccore> does anybody know how to get adboe air on Ubuntu?
[15:24] <AI_> soziety: touch file && chmod +x file
[15:24] <cryoniccore> adobe*
[15:24] <goltoof> so yeah, can't see windows network in 10.04, what's a good start?
[15:24] <s7r> any package for ubuntu to create SSTP vpn server on a ubuntu box?
[15:24] <s7r> please
[15:24] <dimas> Pici i want to send the command again with different parameters insted 256....2048 for example ...i wnat to make sure it wont just write another line on it
[15:25] <kurt_> Please, I need an issue for my INSTALL problem.
[15:25] <Pici> dimas: I already said.  > overwrites the file. If you wanted to append, you would have used '>>', not '>'
[15:25] <Pice> sipior ... nothing really ... I would attempt to connect to our serevr with my domain login and it would consistently fail authentication. I eventually had to get my boss to log in as admin to figure out that my workstation had lost it's IP
[15:25] <goltoof> reinstall likewise?
[15:25] <Sazpaimon> gandhijee, Its compiling okay until it gets to ccache, where I see "/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib32/libass.a when searching for -lass"
[15:25] <dimas> Pici got ya, thanks
[15:25] <soziety> thnks AI_
[15:25] <deem> kurt_: you should say, _why_ you can't start an installation
[15:25] <goltoof> I just get: Couldn't display "network:///"
[15:26] <sipior> Pice: possible you have a bad cable, or the port on the switch is confused/broken
[15:26] <Pice> sipior: The only thing I can think of was an update, but nothing updated in the past few weeks.
[15:26] <kurt_> I`ve told! It WON`T starts. It opens a Granting Permission window, and that`s all!
[15:26] <cryoniccore> umm hello? Can people read my question or is my internet failing?
[15:26] <Pice> sipior: I'll try that and see if it fixes anything
[15:27] <Pice> sipior: Thanks
[15:27] <AI_> cryoniccore: no fail
[15:27] <sudipta> !RockBox
[15:27] <Archie> Hello
[15:27] <goltoof> cryoniccore: widespread hangovers, methinks
[15:27] <corrytonapple> Hello Archie
[15:27] <Archie> Hiya, how're you?
[15:28] <corrytonapple> doing good.  Do you have a question we can help with?
[15:28] <AI_> cryoniccore: just ask straight questions, tell the problem or use google
[15:28] <cryoniccore> AI_ sweet. I was wondering if there was a quick and easy way to install adobe air on my Ubuntu 64bit 11.04
[15:28] <Symmetria> lol, wow, added a SAN to this stupid server and it reordered all the drives in linux (like sdc because sde etc etc) which gave me endless issues trying to boot it again :P
[15:28] <Archie> No. I'm ok thanks, this room was just on auto joins. Thanks anyway.
[15:28] <corrytonapple> Archie you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:28] <corrytonapple> There we all hang out.
[15:28] <deem> kurt_: pls ask, before you talk to somebody in a query. i don't like this
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[15:29] <kurt_> I have my LIVE system running. But Ubuntu Installation stuff WON`T starts!
[15:29] <cryoniccore> sudipta. I did and I cant find it
[15:30] <corrytonapple> kurt_:  This is no guaranteed shot, but a guess.  Did you try not doing a live boot, but installing it as soon as it comes up instead of try then install?
[15:30] <kurt_> It won`t load this stuff at boot
[15:30] <corrytonapple> Well, I can say I tried.
[15:30] <kurt_> I`ve choosed an installation method, but it booted Live System
[15:31] <a|i> how do you save iptables in ubuntu?
[15:31] <corrytonapple> kurt_  You may have a bad CD.  Did you burn to a CD or USB?
[15:31] <kurt_> To a CD with 4x
[15:31] <kurt_> No errors with a proof
[15:31] <AI_> cryoniccore: just download http://airdownload.adobe.com/air/lin/download/1.5/AdobeAIRInstaller.bin
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[15:32] <corrytonapple> It may just be a bad CD.  You could try burning to a new CD, using quality media.  I have found there to be errors with a CD and it be the cause of a bad install or live cd
[15:32] <reseph_> Hi all. Trying to boot Ubuntu from USB again, now it gets stuck at "SYSLINUX 3.82" etc line and does nothing.
[15:32] <kurt_> Can I burn a minimum .iso on CD?
[15:32] <kurt_> Will it be bootable?
[15:32] <cryoniccore> AI_, Yea I have tried that too but it on;y supports 32bit
[15:32] <corrytonapple> Not to a desktop, and you would install via command line with minimal graphics
[15:33] <kurt_> Yes
[15:33] <corrytonapple> Which kurt_ is quite easy
[15:33] <AI_> cryoniccore: google for it
[15:33] <Symmetria> http://paste.linuxassist.net/215686 <[15:33] <cryoniccore> What program do I use to open a bin file?
[15:33] <Symmetria> now its looking pretty
[15:34] <AI_> cryoniccore: chmod +x file.bin && sudo ./file.bin
[15:34] <Pici> Symmetria: Thats nice but its really something that ought to be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:36] <Mr_Giraffe> hi, I asked this earlier to no avail--I recently ran some routine software updates for Ubuntu Natty, and on rebooting my wireless card no longer worked. is there any way to roll back wireless/network driver updates?
[15:39] <cryoniccore> AI_ chmod: cannot access `AdobeAIRInstaller.bin': No such file or directory
[15:39] <AI_> cryoniccore: lol
[15:40] <cryoniccore> AI_ I dont get the humour in that
[15:41] <AI_> cryoniccore: 2 possibilities.. 1: there is no file with that name 2: youre rights are wrong, try it as root
[15:42] <cryoniccore> AI_ U failed to tell me to switch directories. Cus thats where is package is atm
[15:43] <hetii> Hello
[15:43] <AI_> cryoniccore: do i also have to tell you to use the keybord for typing the commands?
[15:43] <hetii> could someone explain me that: test -x /usr/sbin/sshd || exit 0
[15:43] <hetii> ?
[15:44] <hetii> its a line from  init.d script for ssh
[15:44] <Guest16489> :)
[15:44] <hetii> why it return 0 when the deamon not exist??
[15:44] <cryoniccore> AI_ actually I am not that good at linux so maybe u should pretend when helping people out that they know nothing in terminal
[15:45] <dspstv> hi all, need some advice on how to solve this under natty
[15:45] <dspstv> E: Build-Depends dependency for wine1.3 cannot be satisfied because the package docbook-to-man cannot be found
[15:46] <jrib> dspstv: do you have the main repository enabled?
[15:46] <soziety_> I am trying to execute a code in etc/network like this zenity --warning --title "...::: Internet Block :::..." and don't run, could you help me?
[15:47] <cryoniccore> AI_ but anyways thanks for the help
[15:47] <jdummy> Hi All.  Anyone have any idea why audio doesn't get passed through from line-in to headphone out on my ubuntu box?
[15:47] <AI_> cryoniccore: no problem
[15:48] <dspstv> jrib: i did an update and yes, i have all those main reps there
[15:48] <jrib> dspstv: pastebin the result of: « apt-cache policy docbook-to-man »
[15:48] <jdummy> The line-in works, because audio properties shows visuals that follow the audio, but I cannot hear the audio from my headphones
[15:48] <cryoniccore> AI_ yea when I changed directories and used the Commands that u gave me. The installation worked great :)
[15:48] <dspstv> just a minute please jrib, and thanks btw
[15:49] <soziety_> I am trying to execute a code in etc/network like this
[15:49] <soziety_> #!/bin/sh
[15:49] <soziety_> zenity --warning --title "example"
[15:49] <soziety_> and dont run
[15:49] <soziety_> it's called by other process
[15:49] <jrib> soziety_: please don't use enter to break up your thoughts.  What do you mean by "trying to execute a code in etc/network"?
[15:50] <dspstv> jrib: http://pastebin.com/twbNziUf
[15:50] <jrib> dspstv: pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list*
[15:51] <soziety_> sorry jrib, I am making a code it's called by NetworkManager when internet is falling down
[15:52] <jrib> soziety_: environment probably differs.  Maybe call "zenity" with full path or provide appropriate DISPLAY environment variable
[15:52] <soziety_> ok thnks jrib
[15:55] <contrast> Greets, everyone... Anybody know which package contains the development files for gettext? I've been struggling for the past ~20 minutes to find it so I can compile GJay (http://gjay.sourceforge.net/), but regardless of what I install, its autogen.sh script keeps complaining that gettext isn't installed.
[15:56] <xman> hello
[15:57] <dspstv> jrib: http://pastebin.com/ZitL6r5p
[15:58] <dspstv> jrib: thats what i got under /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade
[15:58] <sipior> contrast: you've got gettext, gettext-base and autotools-dev installed?
[15:58] <jrib> dspstv: what do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list?  And /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*?
[15:58] <AlexDevilLX> how to become root and superuser
[15:59] <corrytonapple> AlexDevilLX, type su -
[15:59] <tsimpson> AlexDevilLX: use "sudo -i" to get a root shell
[15:59] <contrast> sipior: Check... but thanks anyway.
[15:59] <szal> !root | AlexDevilLX
[15:59] <tsimpson> not "su -"
[15:59] <wrd> !audio
[15:59] <dspstv> jrib: i have no plain /etc/apt/sources.list i had installed a crappy application suggeested everywhere to "optimize" ubuntu and seems it got removed
[15:59] <tsimpson> contrast: what is the exact error message?
[15:59] <corrytonapple> tsimpson:  I was able to do that on my Ubuntu.
[15:59] <jrib> dspstv: and you have nothing in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?
[15:59] <tsimpson> corrytonapple: then you set a root password, which is not supported here
[15:59] <sipior> contrast: error might be in the software you're trying to install. it's autotools-based, i assume?
[16:00] <corrytonapple> A root password in not supported where?
[16:00] <contrast> tsimpson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/638469
[16:01] <eross> how do i a cli search through source files for a definition
[16:01] <pat201> if i were to download something that came in amd64 or x86, how could i tell which version i needed?
[16:01] <dspstv> jrib: http://pastebin.com/PrtE0yUr
[16:01] <jrib> eross: grep searches files
[16:01] <eross> ok
[16:01] <AlexDevilLX> So sudo su vs su -i
[16:01] <dilruk> who can help me configure ALPS touchpad on my VAIO
[16:02] <jrib> dspstv: generate a proper sources.list using software-properties-gtk
[16:02] <contrast> sipior: That thought crossed my mind, but quite a while back I always ran into this issue when compiling a certain E17 app and installing a certain package cleared it right up... I'm running out of options for what to install at this point though.
[16:02] <wrd> I have a really weird sound related problem. Mic is not working. and as soon as I install pulseaudio the sound stops working (I for some unknown reason to me I can't kill it without respawning), when I remove pulseaudio it works (except) the mic. any suggestions where I might dig in?
[16:02] <AlexDevilLX> dilruk: It's always a problem to configure touchpad on sony
[16:02] <sipior> contrast: could i get you to pastebin the error the build gives?
[16:02] <dilruk> AlexDevilLX: So theres no way?
[16:02] <tsimpson> contrast: does running "autopoint --version" work?
[16:02] <sipior> contrast: actually, the whole build output, if you could.
[16:03] <AlexDevilLX> dilruk: there is, simply my friend had a problem too.
[16:03] <corrytonapple> How is setting a root password not supported "here"?
[16:03] <jdevel> ?
[16:03] <dilruk> AlexDevilLX: Can you point me somewhere with a guide or anything useful? Im kinda new to this
[16:03] <KM0201> corrytonapple: because ubuntu uses sudo
[16:03] <jdevel> setting a root password, having issues with that?
[16:04] <corrytonapple> I can do it in Debian, and wondered if I could do it with Ubuntu
[16:04] <corrytonapple> It always says the password is wrong when I do it
[16:04] <Pici> corrytonapple: You can do it, but we don't support the issues that you might have with it.
[16:04] <szal> corrytonapple: you can do so at your own discretion, but don't expect us to help you w/ that
[16:04] <corrytonapple> What issues may come aboard>
[16:04] <tsimpson> corrytonapple: being able to and it being supported are not the same thing, having the root password disabled is a security feature that you should not disable
[16:05] <KM0201> corrytonapple: if you don't know, then its just best to use sudo... if you need a constant root terminal, use sudo -i
[16:05] <corrytonapple> What issues may be caused?
[16:05] <AlexDevilLX> dilruk: which ubuntu?
[16:05] <KM0201> corrytonapple: google...
[16:05] <dilruk> AlexDevilLX: its Natty
[16:05] <contrast> tsimpson: autopoint was the key. A million thanks. :D
[16:05] <dw-_> the root username is vulnerable
[16:05] <sipior> corrytonapple: the biggest issue is that the ubuntu sshd still (still!) permits remote logins as root by default. you'll need to turn that feature off, or at least be on guard for brute dictionary attacks against your machine.
[16:06] <tsimpson> contrast: it should be part of the "gettext" package anyway, or at least it is on my system
[16:06] <sipior> corrytonapple: they're quite common.
[16:06] <corrytonapple> Even on household machines they are common?
[16:06] <jdevel> only if it's exposed to the external net
[16:06] <corrytonapple> I am not running a server here or anything.
[16:06] <corrytonapple> Debian than has that as a security hole....
[16:06] <sipior> corrytonapple: then it likely doesn't matter.
[16:06] <jdevel> otherwise a hardware firewall should mitigate all that
[16:07] <contrast> tsimpson: Not here (on 11.04)-- had to install the autopoint package... Anyway, thanks again. Peace out.
[16:07] <jdevel> servers and desktops can be remotely logged into so, if it's exposed to the WAN your a potential target
[16:07] <corrytonapple> So then what does su - currently do if there is no password?
[16:08] <jdevel> prompts for a password
[16:08] <jdevel> then fails regardless of the input
[16:08] <dspstv> jrib: thanks, it was all cause by a software called Tweak,, crappy stuff that help for nothing
[16:08] <jrib> dspstv: no problem
[16:09] <corrytonapple> Regardless of the input.  I guess then I should not go for it.  So the issues are getting cracked into and then no body wants to be responsible for me?  I would not want anybody to be responsible for me.....
[16:09] <jdevel> are you just here to troll?
[16:09] <shash> hiiiiiiiiiiii
[16:09] <corrytonapple> Who?
[16:09] <jdevel> you
[16:09] <dilruk> AlexDevilLX: Anything u can find?
[16:09] <sipior> corrytonapple: do what you like, it's your own computer! but do try sudo out. it allows for a great deal of flexibility.
[16:10] <corrytonapple> No.  I was asking why setting a root password was a bad idea?  How so is that trolling?
[16:10] <tsimpson> corrytonapple: the point is that we don't support you removing a security feature or the issues that arise from you removing that feature
[16:10] <AlexDevilLX> dilruk: nope
[16:10] <dilruk> AlexDevilLX: ok thanks anyways
[16:10] <corrytonapple> Thanks sipior!   I just knew Debian used it, and did not know of the sudo -i feature.  thanks for the tips
[16:10] <cordoval> hi is it normal that /var/lib/php5 belongs to root?
[16:11] <cordoval> I am having permission errors because web can't write or read from /var/lib/php5
[16:11] <cordoval> what should I do?
[16:11] <corrytonapple> tsimpson:  No one should be responsible for anything I do.  If you guys say don't do it, then I won't .  thanks for the tip to be in a root terminal though.  To the guys that accused me of trolling:  How is that?  I asked a question....
[16:11] <krisss117> how to repair dhcp
[16:11] <krisss117> client
[16:11] <krisss117> ??
[16:12] <sipior> krisss117: depends on what's wrong with it, i would imagine.
[16:12] <shash> i wnat chating software for facebook? give me suggestion
[16:12] <nimi> hello, i would like some help for a problem ive been having lately
[16:12] <KM0201> corrytonapple: you don't eve need a root terminal, just open a noermal terminal,    sudo -i   enter your password, and you have a root prompt, if thats what you want (although i can't really understand why you'd need it)
[16:12] <cordoval> http://www.kriswillis.com/index.php/2010/09/09/ps_files_cleanup_dir-opendirvarlibphp5-failed-permission-denied-13/
[16:12] <cordoval> thank you man
[16:13] <Roasted> Is there a way I can make a bin bash script execute @ ALT+F2 when I type in the name of the script and hit enter?
[16:13] <nimi> i will like to automatically detect an hdmi connection and also automatically change the audio to hdmi too
[16:13] <Pici> Roasted: It needs to be within your $PATH
[16:13] <nimi> is there a way / script to make this happen ?
[16:13] <Roasted> Pici, can you elaborate a little more please?
[16:13] <nimi> hope im not in the wrong channel...
[16:14] <Pici> Roasted: You need to put the script, or a symlink to your script within your user's $PATH.
[16:14] <corrytonapple> KM0201:  I broke my system (it was a bug with 10.10, and it crashed during the install of updates to 11.04   I needed to go in recovery mode and repair it, then get to the live system and preform a lot of commands that required root.  But I really like Ubuntu's sudo setup.
[16:15] <Roasted> Pici, so it's based on location of the script as to whether or not this idea will work?
[16:15] <KM0201> corrytonapple: recovery mode automatically boots as root.
[16:15] <corrytonapple> Thanks for the help guys.  I will go back to just watching and waiting to help.
[16:15] <xukun> hi all. with apt-get dist-upgrade my system is telling me that  it want to replace /etc/deault/grub with new file but the grub boot loader was previously installed to a disk that is no longer present. I have 4 disk/partitions to choose from.
[16:15] <corrytonapple> KM0201, That is what I thought
[16:15] <Pici> Roasted: If you're not sure if it will run, then just provide the full path and see if it works..
[16:15] <nimi> :(
[16:16] <nimi> hello, i would like some help for a problem ive been having lately
[16:16] <nimi> i will like to automatically detect an hdmi connection and also automatically change the audio to hdmi too
[16:16] <Roasted> Pici, it's just a script that starts/stops my dhcp server. so if I run dhcpstart, it should run sudo service isc-dhcp-server start, etc. That's all the script is.
[16:17] <nimi> is there a way / script to make this happen ?
[16:17] <Jordan_U> xukun: How many *disks* are there as options? (you never want to install grub to a partition)
[16:17] <Roasted> Pici, when I had the scripts in my home directory, alt+f2 simply "searched" for them and brought them to me. th at's all it did.
[16:17] <Roasted> Pici, perhaps its location was why?
[16:17] <royale1223> "wine: Install Mono for Windows to run .NET 2.0 applications" How do i accomplish this?
[16:17] <dr_willis> !info mono
[16:17] <Pici> Roasted: so the script requires sudo... you'll either need to start a gnome-terminal and run the script using that, or start gksudo with your script.
[16:17] <dr_willis> theres a mono package.. somewhere.. :)
[16:18] <Pici> Roasted: ~/ is not typically in your path. ~/bin/ might be.
[16:18] <dr_willis> royale1223,   apt-cache search mono      and install what looks right
[16:18] <Roasted> Pici, well since I have "sudo" in the script, if I run dhcpstart in terminal, it asks for PW, then runs accordingly.
[16:18] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I'm using yakuake which appears on F12 but also when I move my mouse to the top of my screen which I kinda dislike. Any possibility to stop this?
[16:18] <xxghostxx> Hello.  I recently created a normal user account (belonging to sudo group so that I would not have to use my root account), and I have a question that I hope is easily answered.  As root, my command prompt looks like "root@hostname:/home#".  As a normal user, I get $ and nothing else.  I find it very informative to know what directory i'm currently in, and what user I am executing commands as, and on what hostname.  I keep open multiple split screen
[16:18] <xxghostxx>  windows to different serves, so having the format of user@host:dir# is extremely helpful.  does anyone know how to enable this for a normal user?
[16:19] <Pici> Roasted: Yes, but when you run it from alt-f2, its not running it in a terminal.
[16:19] <dr_willis> KNUBBIG,  you checked its settings? i think its an option
[16:19] <FollowerofMendax> is it a "good" idea to install GNOME as a  replacement to unity in natty narhwal
[16:19] <KNUBBIG> dr_willis: yes I did but saw nothing
[16:19] <KNUBBIG> dr_willis: will try again :)
[16:19] <dr_willis> xxghostxx,  set their .bashrc to set a prompt how you like
[16:19] <dr_willis> !prompt
[16:19] <dr_willis> xxghostxx,  theres a bash prompt howto - thats very detailed.
[16:19] <xxghostxx> !prompt
[16:20] <Roasted> Pici, I gotcha. makes sense. I just thought I'd get prompted for a pw then.
[16:20] <nit-wit> FollowerofMendax, you knpw of the classic desktop available at login correct?
[16:21] <xxghostxx> dr_willis:  thanks.  The ubottu didn't know what prompt was, but I'm googleing now
[16:21] <FollowerofMendax> no
[16:21] <Roasted> Pici, I'm going to test it now. thanks.
[16:21] <nit-wit> FollowerofMendax, at the boot in choose your name look dwn and hit the drop down choose classic desktop
[16:21] <Pici> FollowerofMendax: If you don't like using Unity, then use GNOME instead, just pick Classic Ubuntu from your login screen.
[16:23] <xxghostxx> dr_willis: can i just copy over the .bashrc file from root to the user?
[16:24] <xxghostxx> because i notice i don't have tab complete or coloring or anything
[16:24] <xskydevilx> gui++ font smoothing for Linux? Any alternatives?
[16:24] <smialy> ecoprima.pl
[16:24] <amartin> Hi everybody. I'm thinking of buying an external blu-ray LG BE12LU30. Does anybody knows if this is going to worke well on ubuntu?
[16:24] <dilruk> Anybody know how i can configure ALPS touchpad correctly?
[16:26] <tertl3> no sound in flash, please help ?
[16:27] <Pici> dilruk: Have you looked over this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad ?
[16:27] <nimi> can someone help me in hdmi issue ?
[16:28] <dilruk> Pici: is SynapticsTouchpad same as ALPS?
[16:28] <dr_willis> nimi,  so you somehow turn on/off hdmi sound when you need it now?
[16:29] <soziety> How can I send  a pop-up message from bash?
[16:29] <dr_willis> soziety,  send it where?
[16:29] <nimi> dr_willis, mhhh, thats not really the issue
[16:30] <soziety> something like this http://cloud.addictivetips.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Pizza.png
[16:30] <nimi> dr_willis,  i want to switch automatically audio and video to hdmi when is plugged, and opossite way when is unplugged
[16:30] <crazedpsyc> I upgraded to oneiric yesterday (Yes, I know, I shouldn't have...) and it was working alright-ish, although the FS kept getting corrupted. So this last time that happened, I shut down to get into recovery mode and fsck. I got a strange boot error like "Please insert a proper boot medium". So... I tried a couple more times with no luck. I finally just inserted my 10.04 livecd and got in here. Now it looks as though my hard drive is
[16:30] <nimi> dr_willis, is hard for me to think that noone yet found a way to do this
[16:30] <Pici> dilruk: No, but supposedly the synpatic drivers work with it.
[16:31] <dr_willis> nimi,  so.. how are you switching now? or are you even switching at all.. thats what i asked.
[16:31] <i2iot> Whats the shortcut to close a window in ubuntu?
[16:31] <crazedpsyc> Oh, forgot to mention, I'm on a wubi install
[16:31] <nimi> dr_willis, being googleing it for an hour or so, and NOthING :S
[16:31] <soziety> something like this <dr_willis> http://cloud.addictivetips.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Pizza.png
[16:31] <nimi> dr_willis, obviously, i use nvidia control center and pulseaudio tool to switch
[16:31] <quaisi> i2iot: ctrl w
[16:31] <dr_willis> soziety,  theres a way to use the ubuntu notify bubbles in a script..  i forget the command.. then i just saw this -> http://www.doknowevil.net/2010/06/25/ubuntu-notifications-osd-notify-sucks-notifications-daemon-rocks-exploiting-the-goodness-with-compiz/
[16:32] <dr_willis> nimi,  then theres proberly some pulse cli tools. but they may not be installed by default.
[16:32] <soziety> thanks dr_willis
[16:33] <dr_willis> pulse audio has so many tricks and features its easy to overlook them all. ive only just scratched the surface of pulse in my reading about it.
[16:33] <nimi> dr_willis, but is pretty annoying to do both actions every time, there should be a way
[16:33] <nimi> dr_willis, mhh, what about the hdmi video ?
[16:33] <xxghostxx> Ok, not sure what is wrong.  I set PS1="\u@\h:\w#" and now my prompt shows that literally instead of user@host:workingdir#
[16:34] <xxghostxx> also noticing that if i push the left or right arrow, my cursor doesn't actually go left or right.  It gives me two symbols.  this only happens as a normal user, not root
[16:35] <DanC_> the USB flash drives from my phone sometimes won't mount. How is it suppose to work? Is pmount a good work-around?
[16:36] <dr_willis> !info pulseaudio-utils
[16:36] <nimi> dr_willis, and amazingly, theres no documentation anywhere about this
[16:37] <phearret> hi all, can I plz get some help with my RTL8101E/RTL8102E wireless?
[16:37] <marco1975> hello
[16:37] <dr_willis>  looking at  /usr/share/doc/pulseaudio-utils    right now nimi
[16:37] <marco1975> i'm new user from today
[16:37] <VCoolio> xxghostxx: try this in .bashrc, http://pastebin.com/2iFW9kpF
[16:37] <i2iot> Can I increase my mouse sensitivity beyond what Ubuntu's maximum is?
[16:38] <dr_willis> nimi,  there is a #pulseaudio channel it seems
[16:38] <VCoolio> xxghostxx: also check http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/
[16:38] <soziety> could I use python from bash?
[16:38] <nimi> dr_willis, i meant in the forums of ppl that wanted to make this happen
[16:39] <dr_willis> soziety,  you can run python from  the shell.. yes
[16:39] <royale1223> how can i cahnge the background color of lynx browser.
[16:39] <royale1223> how can i cahnge the background color of lynx browser?
[16:39] <scensis_> I'm having some trouble with the clock on Ubuntu 11.04. It's too slow and can't tell the right time. Now it is 20 minutes behind the real time. How can i fix this? :)
[16:39] <VCoolio> soziety: you can call a python script from bash, but what for?
[16:40] <quaisi> scensis: do you have the time set from the internet automatically?
[16:40] <scensis_> quaisi, yes
[16:40] <phearret> dr_willis .. do you have a minute or 2 when done ?
[16:41] <dr_willis> nimi,  i notice a 'padevchooser' tool that puts an icon in the systray. but thats about all ive noticed.
[16:41] <soziety> for make a pop-up notify like this http://cloud.addictivetips.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Pizza.png
[16:41] <dr_willis> phearret,  whats up?
[16:41] <soziety> for make a pop-up notify like this http://cloud.addictivetips.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Pizza.png VCoolio
[16:41] <KNUBBIG> dr_willis: sorry phone rang ;-) Can't seem to find an option to disable that in yakuake
[16:41] <phearret> can I plz get some help with my RTL8101E/RTL8102E wireless
[16:41] <dr_willis> soziety,  thats using the ubuntu notify-osd feature. there are command line tools that let you create such things.. i just cant rember the command
[16:41] <phearret> i did the update to natty and seems to be disabled ... still
[16:41] <VCoolio> soziety: notify-send, it's in libnotify-bin package
[16:42] <royale1223> how can i change the background color of lynx browser?
[16:42] <soziety> yes but I have to installed
[16:42] <soziety> the package
[16:42] <scensis_> quaisi, Apparently it is not set to automatic from the internett. How can i set it back?
[16:42] <VCoolio> soziety: install, then: notify-send "Pizza is ready" "finished just now"
[16:42] <xxghostxx> VCoolio: that didn't work either
[16:42] <soziety> from python I haven't instal anything
[16:43] <quaisi> scensis: click on the clock icon and then time and date settings
[16:43] <VCoolio> soziety: what if you add display: DISPLAY=:0 notify-send blah
[16:43] <nimi> dr_willis, thx for your help :)
[16:43] <scensis_> quaisi, I'm using Ubuntu classic btw. So it's a little different than when i used Unity =/
[16:44] <SegFaultAX> Is it just me or is kernel.org not following the appropriate mirroring guidelines for the ubuntu mirror?
[16:44] <devilchaos> hi folks can someone please give me a link to the latest apt souces list page please?
[16:44] <dr_willis> KNUBBIG,  i may bne thinking of guake
[16:44] <soziety> ok thnks I'm looking for about diasplay in google. I'm noob in ubuntu sorry
[16:45] <quaisi> scensis: me too.  If I click on the clock in the top right corner a calendar pops up and underneath that is a setting to change the time and date.  If you click on that you can change the clock to set automatically from the internet
[16:45] <VCoolio> soziety: just add DISPLAY=:0 in front of the notify-send command, is all I meant
[16:45] <dr_willis> KNUBBIG,  but i sware i saw it in Yakuake.. but i cant even find its settings box now.
[16:45] <KNUBBIG> dr_willis: it's right somewhere on a drop down button :-)
[16:45] <phearret> dr_willis ..  lshw -C network shows  *-network DISABLED for my PRO/Wireless 4965 Kendron RTL8101E/RTL8102E
[16:46] <SegFaultAX> kernel.org seems to get more than a few days out of date sometimes :(
[16:46] <scensis_> quaisi, strange.. I dont get that option when i click on the clock. Only see the calendar and "Locations"
[16:46] <KNUBBIG> dr_willis: and you where right, it wasn't in the 'normal' preferences but I found it now. thanks a lot
[16:46] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install libnotify-bin        then    notify-send "Pizza is ready" "finished just now"
[16:46] <dr_willis> KNUBBIG,  where did ya even find it at? i still cant find it now
[16:46] <quaisi> scensis: ok how about system - preferences - time and date?
[16:47] <lapaga> royale1223, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/lynx-colours-how-can-i-do-that-582681/
[16:47] <dr_willis> KNUBBIG,  ahh.. those colors/buttons seem so hard to see on my system
[16:47] <KNUBBIG> dr_willis: I have a button on the right lower end of my yakuake and when I click it, a small drop down menu shows up. On this I click Configure Yakuake and then I have a tab where I can choose behaviour :) ah ok
[16:47] <devilchaos> ok better qestion what is the latest release of ubuntu and ill just change it in the souces list i.e instead of lucid it would be?
[16:47] <scensis_> quaisi, That was better. But i see now that it is set to update auto from the internett. :S
[16:48] <Magic_Hobo> the latest is natty
[16:48] <royale1223> how can i change the background color of lynx browser?
[16:48] <devilchaos> cool cheers
[16:48] <dr_willis> devilchaos,  i saw that asked on askubuntu.com the other day.  several people posted default sources.lists for the various relaees I belive
[16:48] <devilchaos> eh?
[16:48] <quaisi> scensis: d'oh.  I could suggest setting it to manual :) unless the location isn't correct?
[16:48] <dr_willis> devilchaos,  the askubuntu.com has listings of them
[16:49] <devilchaos> aw ok cheers
[16:49] <scensis_> quaisi,  The location is correct :( Is there a way to modiy when and how often ubuntu sends out NTP polls?
[16:49] <LogicallyDashing> Pidgin normally lets me configure a proxy for just the one application. But in Ubuntu it does everything through GNOME preferences. I'd prefer to manage this on a per-application basis. How do I do that?
[16:49] <phearret> dr_willis .. have they found a way to fix the issue ??
[16:49] <dr_willis> royale1223,  check the options, and the colors config file
[16:50] <royale1223> dr_willis: thanks
[16:50] <quaisi> scensis: sorry that's a bit beyond my knowledge.  Perhaps someone else could suggest something - unless setting it manually helps?
[16:50] <dr_willis> phearret,  i rarely pay attention to wireless issues.. I just dont use wireless that much. (i wired my house) :)
[16:51] <phearret> lucky you ... I don't have the luxury ATM and need wifi as freely available
[16:51] <scensis_> quaisi, I think i tried setting it manually once. But can't hurt to try once more :) I'll try that before i try something else. Thanks :)
[16:51] <phearret> I can scan with wifi-radar and it sees the networks, I just can't connect
[16:51] <xxghostxx> k.  for anyone who was following on the bash problem, i figured it out. the default shell for a new user is /bin/sh which uses a dumb down shell called dash.  i just ran chsh -s /bin/bash username to change it to the bash shell and now all works like it should
[16:52] <quaisi> scensis: no worries - I'm sure if you stick around someone can help you further
[16:52] <dr_willis> xxghostxx,  thats incorrect...  - dash is 'sh'  bash technically when called as 'sh' should have the same features/errors..
[16:53] <dr_willis> xxghostxx,  if your scripts are using bash features they should be calling #!/bin/bash   not #!/bin/sh
[16:53] <xxghostxx> dr_willis:  when i did echo $SHELL it said my user was using shell /bin/sh.  so i changed it to so my user uses /bin/dash.  now when i have files with #!/bin/bash it shows correctly
[16:53] <dr_willis> remeber that the 'system' shell is 'sh' which is 'dash' not bash..
[16:54] <xxghostxx> */bin/bash
[16:54] <xxghostxx> blash
[16:54] <dr_willis>  /bin/bash should always work when called as bash.
[16:54] <xxghostxx> i can't type today
[16:54] <ruan> how would i delete files that were encrypted with windows?
[16:54] <dr_willis>  bash technically should flag an error if its called as /bin/sh   and you use bash features..
[16:55] <xxghostxx> yah.  it works now that i changed it. before it was using /bin/sh (i guess for some reason useradd defaults to /bin/sh) which apparently is dash in Ubuntu.
[16:55] <dr_willis> a Users shell.. shouldent be sh. :) but ive seen vps's do that.
[16:55] <jkeats> i'd really, really appreciate it if somebody could help me with an iptables issue
[16:55] <jkeats> http://paste.ubuntu.com/638488/
[16:55] <dr_willis> xxghostxx,  use adduser perhaps?
[16:55] <dr_willis> I cant recall ever using useradd in all the yeas ive messed with linux. :)
[16:55] <jkeats> dr_willis: i use it almost every day
[16:55] <jkeats> useradd -m foo
[16:55] <dr_willis> sudo adduser billgates
[16:55] <xxghostxx> dr_willis: i'll use adduser next new user create :)  just annoying.  is there a way to make the default shell always be /bin/bash instead of /bin/sh?
[16:55] <dr_willis> :)
[16:56] <dr_willis> xxghostxx,  adduser dioes it that way
[16:56] <jkeats> dr_willis: it's a matter of preference
[16:56] <dr_willis> useradd proberly requires you to define the settings more exactly
[16:56] <dr_willis> I seem tor ecall some adduser vs useradd debate in here once
[16:56] <jkeats> dr_willis: indeed. but it's not available on old platforms. like irix and old solaris.
[16:56] <jkeats> so i'm just an old haxor. that's all.
[16:56] <dr_willis> !info superadduser
[16:56] <xxghostxx> yah.  i can do -s /bin/bash and it would've doen it.  but if i don't use the -s flag, then it uses the default shell (which apprently my system is configured to make default /bin/sh)
[16:56] <dr_willis> :)
[16:57] <jkeats> any help on the iptables thing?
[16:57] <jkeats> i bumped to natty and the ip forwarding stopped working
[16:58] <Osmodivs> Hello. I only have a few minutes before my system freezes, and force me to turn it off. Where can I find what's wrong? a log perhaps and then show it to you?
[16:58] <mass0ud> Today I tried to boot my eeepc with an ubuntu installation and when the kernel was loading it complained that my root filesystem didn't exist, Then it threw me into a initramfs prompt
[16:58] <mass0ud> What could be the problem?
[16:58] <mass0ud> The system was working perfectly last night
[16:58] <guampa> jkeats: all i could identify was redundant rules, don't see why you randomize the source port either. whats the problem?  maybe if you state it..
[16:58] <n-iCe> Hi, I installed my vendor wireless card drivers, but when I reboot the pc, the driver is like no activated, I need to unplug and plug my wireless usb card to make it work, any idea why?
[16:59] <jkeats> guampa: the internal hosts don't route to external hosts
[16:59] <jkeats> eth2 is the "external" interface. do i have them backwards?
[16:59] <guampa> tried without the random stuff? with a static source for the snat
[16:59] <jkeats> from hosts attached to eth3 i can't get out via eth2
[16:59] <jkeats> static source for the snat as in an IP rather than an interface?
[16:59] <guitar_dave> sup auspicious panel of intellectuals?
[16:59] <jkeats> guitar_dave: hardly :/
[16:59] <guitar_dave> :)
[17:00] <jkeats> guampa: tried without random, added that for paranoia.
[17:00] <guampa> mh
[17:00] <guampa> with snat source you have to refer to an ip address anyway
[17:00] <KM0201> guitar_dave: answer your PM
[17:00] <kersurk> Hi
[17:00] <jkeats> oh ok
[17:01] <jkeats> i was reading the manpage and it said with static addresses to use SNAT instead of MASQUERADE so i changed to SNAT
[17:01] <guampa> use the ip of eth2
[17:01] <jkeats> ok
[17:01] <jkeats> let me rejigger
[17:01] <kersurk> gnome-panel nor unity shows up anymore. gnome-panel --replace, metacity... nothing helps
[17:01] <kersurk> any help
[17:01] <jkeats> and what lines were redundant or are you missing that i'm actually forwarding two interfaces
[17:02] <kersurk> is there any way to start metacity in verbose mode to see any kind of log
[17:02] <kersurk> or sth
[17:02] <kersurk> I meant gnome-panel*
[17:02] <Osmodivs> Is there anyway to fix SYNAPTIC? I can't open it to update  and I can't even open the ubuntu Software Center  http://pastebin.com/cn0dSVZB
[17:02] <jkeats> and how exactly does --to-source work?
[17:02] <jkeats> is 0.0.0.0 not okay there?
[17:03] <jkeats> where should that point?
[17:03] <jkeats> the external default router?
[17:03] <kersurk> Osmodivs: does apt-get work?
[17:03] <guampa> well -m state is the default so you don't have to explicitly include that, and --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED just use one for every filter chain, and it will work the same
[17:03] <guampa> without constraining it to some interface combo or anything
[17:03] <jkeats> guampa: ok, i was reading an interwebs howto on that part
[17:03] <llutz> jkeats:  .... --to-source <SERVER'S_EXTERNAL_IP>
[17:04] <n-iCe> hi, I installed my vendors usb wireless card drivers
[17:04] <jkeats> llutz: thank you
[17:04] <n-iCe> hi, I installed my vendors usb wireless card drivers, but after reboot I need to unplug and plug the usb card to make it work and to make wlan1 shown up, any idea why? thanks
[17:05] <Osmodivs> kersurk, I get another type of message
[17:05] <jkeats> llutz / guampa so the --to-source and --out-interface on the SNAT line should both be $EXT_IP?
[17:05] <llutz> jkeats: --out-interface   is not an ip
[17:05] <mass0ud> Today I tried to boot my eeepc with an ubuntu installation and when the kernel was loading it complained that my root filesystem didn't exist, Then it threw me into a initramfs prompt
[17:05] <Osmodivs> kersurk,  W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64 (20110427.1)/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[17:05] <Osmodivs> W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64 (20110427.1)/dists/natty/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[17:05] <Osmodivs> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/boost-latest/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[17:05] <Osmodivs> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/boost-latest/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[17:05] <jkeats> so keep that eth2 then..?
[17:05] <Osmodivs> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[17:06] <llutz> jkeats: yes
[17:06] <jkeats> Osmodivs: nopaste
[17:06] <Senjai> Osmodivs: use pastebin.org for lots of text, dont spam the channel
[17:06] <Osmodivs> kersurk,  I have the Apt-getCD in the reader
[17:06] <guampa> no, you are supposed to be trying to use --out-interface as a precondition, meanwhile --to-address is a parameter for the action of SNAT
[17:06] <Osmodivs> Senjai, THAT IS NOT SPAM
[17:06] <guampa> (jkeats)
[17:07] <Osmodivs> Senjai, Read it!!
[17:07] <llutz> !paste | Osmodivs it IS spam, use pastebin or whatever
[17:07] <Senjai> Osmodivs: It makes reading other peoples problems harder, for multi-line text use pastebin
[17:07] <kersurk> Osmodivs: it's a busy channel, a multiline log is a kind of spam
[17:07] <Myrtti> moving on
[17:07] <jkeats> http://paste.ubuntu.com/638495/
[17:07] <jkeats> looking better llutz / guampa ?
[17:08] <jkeats> and should add an exit 255 to the depmod if clause
[17:08] <trinimoses> hi all
[17:09] <jkeats> ah-ha
[17:09] <trinimoses> i got an ubuntu 10.04 box that i remote into using teamviewer.. but i get a display error and then ym screen goes blank once the system starts the screen saver
[17:09] <Osmodivs> I can't open Synaptic: E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_earth_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. How do I fix this?
[17:09] <jkeats> guampa, llutz
[17:09] <jkeats> thank you
[17:09] <jkeats> you are tres awesome.
[17:09] <jkeats> i now has forwarding. :)
[17:09] <guampa> checkin it out gimme a sec
[17:10] <AlphaAtom> I recently installed Ubuntu, because I messed up my windows install, but when I try to play Minecraft on Ubuntu, I overheat, I never used to overheat on Windows, could changing the Large Disk Access mode in the bios prevent overheats?
[17:10] <guampa> then its all good :) not exactly like i would be doing it but "hey ..."
[17:10] <AlphaAtom> Also, will changing that cause loss of data?
[17:10] <jkeats> kind of silly that i can get tor/polipo/etc set up on the router but can't figure out iptables?
[17:11] <jkeats> guampa: please, tell me how you would do it. my background is with pf on openbsd. iptables is strange to me
[17:11] <edbian> AlphaAtom: You want to leave Large Disk Access mode on.  It allows you to use a Large HDD (where large is something like 10+ GB)
[17:11] <n-iCe> hi, I installed my vendors usb wireless card drivers, but after reboot I need to unplug and plug the usb card to make it work and to make wlan1 shown up, any idea why? thanks
[17:11] <guampa> iptables is nice if you grasp the subroutine oriented nature of it
[17:11] <AlphaAtom> I meant changing it from DOS to Other
[17:12] <AlphaAtom> It recommends changing it to Other if you're on a Unix system, but I've found everything works fine without changing it, except the overheats
[17:12] <jkeats> so you're saying you'd use ufw?
[17:12] <guampa> jkeats: k i was prepping a paste for you, hang in
[17:12] <jkeats> i found ufw to be equally complicated :/
[17:12] <guampa> no i use iptables-save/restore and a custom script for net setup
[17:13] <jkeats> well, great. looking forward to the paste.
[17:14] <j3roth> Question: Does Ubuntu have a remote server management tools, like SpaceWalk, Satellite Server etc?
[17:14] <guampa> jkeats: lunch calls :/ will have to be later
[17:14] <jkeats> guampa: can you /msg me?
[17:14] <guampa> be back in an hour
[17:14] <guampa> allright no prob
[17:14] <jkeats> sure later
[17:14] <jkeats> thanks again
[17:14] <guampa> yw
[17:14]  * jkeats relaunches under screen
[17:15] <Electron> Does XChat allow you to split screens between chat windows?
[17:16] <o0o0> Electron: how about detach
[17:17] <AlphaAtom> Should I change my Large Disk Access mode to Other if I'm using Ubuntu
[17:17] <AlphaAtom> It overheats when I play Minecraft and this never happened on Windows
[17:17] <Electron> o0o0, I was thinking of maybe an option like mIRC has were you can view both channels side by side.
[17:18] <o0o0> nice1
[17:22] <Snake__> Hi
[17:22] <Snake__> guys can you tell me of the name of a program that can convert MOV TO VOB
[17:23] <Snake__> Hi guys
[17:23] <tobia_> !list
[17:23] <tobia_> !list
[17:25] <zmoazeni> Hi guys. Quick question, do changes to /etc/security/limits.conf require a reboot? I'm talking primarily about changes in # of open files. We made the change and they haven't seemed to take affect.
[17:27] <brahim> hello
[17:27] <brahim> i have a small question can any one help me plz?
[17:28] <rcmaehl> Help! I'm being DDoS'd how can I redirect all the DDoS
[17:28] <Magic_Hobo> sure wut is it?
[17:28] <rcmaehl> traffic?
[17:28] <brahim> i want to create a database with a billion of data mysql go crazy
[17:28] <brahim> so i looked in the internet i found cassandra used by facebook
[17:28] <wrd> !pulse
[17:29] <brahim> can any one help plz?
[17:29] <Diverdude> What is the reasoning behind focusing on the original window instead of the new window opened when double clicking e.g. an image in nautilus???
[17:31] <Pici> buhman: I don't see a question there.
[17:31] <n-iCe> hi, how do I make wlan1 appear? without unplug and plugin my usb wireless card?
[17:31] <Diverdude> any1?
[17:32] <brahim> any one can help please?
[17:32] <Magic_Hobo> wuts ur question?
[17:32] <jonne> the sound menu suddenly can't see remote audio sinks any more. Padevchooser can still see them, though. Already tried rebooting both boxes. Any ideas, anyone?
[17:32] <Ampelbein> brahim: you didn't ask a question yet.
[17:32] <pdtpatrick> zmoazeni, i believe so
[17:32] <Magic_Hobo> lol ya we kinda need to know wut it is so we can answer it :P
[17:32] <jonne> i didn't install/uninstall anything that could cause this, afaik
[17:34] <semitones> are there any symbols other than numbers that cause a folder to be first in an alphabetical list in ubuntu
[17:34] <brahim> Ampelbein i did ok my question is : i want to create a database with bellion of data GB or TB i tried mysql but it gona grazy when a lot of data
[17:34] <semitones> things like $ and % seem to defer to the next letter
[17:34] <caedmon> does anyone have experience installing ubuntu server 10.04 on a Dell poweredge 2850?
[17:34] <TheEvilPhoenix> caedmon, depends
[17:34] <TheEvilPhoenix> caedmon, are you running into issues>?
[17:34] <schnuffle> caedmon: only on 2940/50
[17:34] <BluesKaj> jonne, yeah if you absolutely eed pulseaudio then go to #pulseaudio , they can help , but if not , get rid of it and let alsa manage your audio devices
[17:35] <caedmon> the problem i am running into is the installer looking for disk drivers
[17:35] <caedmon> old documentation said megaraid would work
[17:35] <caedmon> but it didnt
[17:35] <TheEvilPhoenix> caedmon, hardware RAID?
[17:35] <caedmon> yeah
[17:35] <jonne> BluesKaj, i need PA for the network transparency
[17:36] <jonne> i'm generally happy about PA, as opposed to the rest of the internet
[17:36] <jonne> except when it's not working properly, ofcourse
[17:36] <schnuffle> caedmon: they changed there raids from something called PERC X to H200/300
[17:36] <TheEvilPhoenix> caedmon, sounds like the same issue on my server... it seems the hardware raid card's drivers arent shipped ootb, but i never got a chance to test.  ya might ask in #ubuntu-server, they may be more helpful (if they're alive)
[17:36] <Ampelbein> brahim: that's not a question. "I want to create a database" is a statement of intent, "I tried mysql but it gona grazy when a lot of data" is a statement lacking things like "I used mysql commands foo, bar and gnarz but the response was EFOOBAR, when I wanted to do XYZ".
[17:37] <caedmon> ok thanks. i will try the ubuntu-server channel
[17:37] <brahim> Ampelbein i want to use cassandra can u help me?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> network transparency? describe to us what that means , jonne , otherwise you might bet ore help over at the #pulseaudio chat , like I previously suggested\
[17:37] <Electron> I installed 11.04 on my computer, when 11.10 comes out does ubuntu upgrade easily?
[17:37] <wsagent> Ampelbein : LoL
[17:37] <BluesKaj> get more help
[17:37] <jonne> sending audio from one computer to another
[17:38] <tobi__> help pl
[17:38] <jonne> and padevchooser works (the tool pulseaudio wrote to do this), but the ubuntu sound menu (which is ubuntu-specific) suddenly stopped showing remote sinks
[17:38] <Ampelbein> brahim: what error do you get? what commands did you use? what did you expect these commands do?
[17:38] <wsagent> brahim be polite man
[17:39] <jonne> and the kneejerk OMG uninstall PA it sucks11!! reaction isn't the best way to handle every audio issue
[17:39] <BluesKaj> jonne, ask i #pulseaudio
[17:39] <brahim> could u see this link please http://cassandra.apache.org/download/
[17:40] <jonne> they'll tell me to ask #ubuntu, as the issue i have is with ubuntu-specific modifications
[17:41] <wsagent> brahim: where are you facing issue
[17:41] <brahim> i don't know how to install it and the doc is not clear
[17:41] <wsagent> which ubuntu version are you using?
[17:42] <Symmetria> *hrm* what sorta disk write performance hit can I expect running software raid-1 with mdadm
[17:42] <brahim> i don't know what is the cmd to get the version plz?
[17:42] <brahim> i think 9.04
[17:43] <czardoz> wow thats old
[17:43] <oCean> brahim: your question has nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:43] <pattern> how can i list all the files installed by a given package?
[17:43] <qin> brahim: lsb_release -a
[17:43] <brahim> the v is 10.04
[17:43] <VCoolio> pattern: dpkg-query -L  I think
[17:43] <brahim> oCean i know but im an ubuntu user so come here to find some help :)
[17:44] <llutz> pattern: dpkg -L package
[17:44] <pattern> thank you
[17:44] <oCean> brahim: sorry, wrong channel. This channel is for ubuntu support only
[17:45] <brahim> oCean ok thanks i go now  :(
[17:46] <Electron> Is an ubuntu upgrade easy?
[17:47] <czardoz> pretty much
[17:47] <Shaba1> hello can anyone see my text?
[17:47] <BluesKaj> Shaba1, yes
[17:47] <czardoz> Shaba1: I can
[17:47] <Shaba1> Ok thanks
[17:47] <trinimoses> qustion : why does my screen go blank in ubuntu 10.04 lts when i swithc monitors?
[17:47] <Magic_Hobo> yup
[17:48] <Shaba1> I am in another room and no one was answering so I thought maybe something was wrong
[17:48] <BluesKaj> can't you see your own text Shaba1?
[17:48] <Shaba1> while I am here though....
[17:48]  * Electron wonders if anyone has ever upgraded.
[17:48] <Shaba1>  I have kubuntu on a usb stick. it boots but does not show my wireless chip
[17:48] <jrib> !upgrade | Electron
[17:48] <Shaba1> I have the drivers on this laptop
[17:48] <Shaba1> how do I "transfer' it to the usb stick
[17:48] <Electron> jrib, I am not wanting to  upgrade.  I am just now switching from windows to ubuntu and I wondered in a few months if it was easy.
[17:49] <Shaba1> the laptop is windows7
[17:49] <oneliner> anyone had the idea of using pen tablet input to have a "sign on" app to login with a hand written signature?
[17:49] <Roasted> Who's good with printing?  I have a Ricoh 2500 here I CANNOT get to work, even if I provide my own PPD file. I'm a little lost on where else to go as it's very frustrating...
[17:49] <oCean> oneliner: how is that an ubuntu issue?
[17:49] <jrib> Electron: that page has instructions so you can see what it's like.  It's basically, just update manager popping up, you press a button, then wait...
[17:49] <Electron> jrib, ah ok thank you
[17:49] <oneliner> oCean: app query, not issue
[17:50] <jo-erlend> can someone provide me with a link to something describing how to setup grub2 to boot from a RAW image?
[17:50] <Electron> jrib, And waiting is the most difficult part I am guessing. heh.
[17:50] <oCean> oneliner: "anyone had the idea of.." that's not an app query to me
[17:50] <oneliner> is there an app that <- refrase at will
[17:50] <vooze> Sitting with a friend and its his first time with ubuntu, but the problem is that he can SEE the wireless but cant connect to any.. any ideas to such issues?
[17:51] <jrib> Electron: probably a few hours to download and install, but you can still use the system while it upgrades
[17:51] <Galaxor> How do I put apps on the unity dock bar if they aren't in the menu and don't have .desktop files?
[17:52] <Galaxor> I can make a .desktop file for it, but I still don't know how to put it onto the bar.
[17:52] <pdtpatrick> Galaxor, just drag them there. .desktop would be how u customize them
[17:52] <soziety> notification bubble does not appear when VPN connection is established in xubuntu 10.04
[17:52] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: Drag it from nautilus?
[17:52] <Electron> jrib, ah thats sweet.
[17:53] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: Dragging the binary from nautilus didn't work.  Dragging it from the "run application" dialog didn't work.
[17:54] <pdtpatrick> Galaxor, when u press the windows button on your keyboard, search for the app you want, when it finds it, just drag the icon onto the unity doc and it will stick.
[17:54] <Makdaam> hi, does anyone have a "satellite tv in ubuntu" tutorial or could help me with basic tuning and stuff?
[17:54] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: This is an app I compiled by hand.  It's not in the freedesktop menu.
[17:55] <ozzloy> what's the default cd ripper on 11.04, or is there one?
[17:56] <ozzloy> i thought it would be sound-juicer, but that's not available
[17:56] <ozzloy> er... not installed by default
[17:56] <pdtpatrick> Galaxor, right .. but when u search for the app does it come up or does the system not see it? u can clone .desktop file and make the appropriate changes. But if you compiled it then just open the location of the file/binary and then drag it to the dock. You can always do it by hand like you wanted to
[17:56] <dr_willis> make a .desktop file for it.. they are not to hard to do
[17:57] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: The binary is /opt/tora/bin/tora.  The search thing doesn't find it, even if I type the full path.
[17:58] <n-iCe> was not loaded, I did modprobe r8187 and was not loaded either, I mean wlan1 was not there, must be something different
[17:58] <pdtpatrick> Galaxor, .. so then browse through your nautilus window.. and try to drag it there. DOes that work?
[17:58] <n-iCe> how can I turn on a wireless interface when is not listed in iwconfig
[17:59] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: Nope.  But if I make a .desktop file, I can drag that in.
[18:00] <rakkkta> hello, it's the "getting broadcom wireless to connect to networks" problem for me, anyone?
[18:00] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: so I guess that's the answer:  Make a .desktop file.
[18:00] <pdtpatrick> Galaxor, hmmm -- maybe thats the best work around for now. Create a launcher on the desktop and then try dragging it to the dock. Have you tried that ?
[18:01] <idodeisuke> !list
[18:01] <Guest38993> my monitor intensity of light is low and i can't set it high. why?
[18:01] <coz_> Guest38993,  not sure,, did you try xgamma?
[18:02] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: Yep.  That works.  That's essentially a gui way to make a .desktop file.
[18:02] <coz_> Guest38993,   open a terminal ,,    xgamma --gamma  1.0 is  normal   brighter would be  1.7  for example
[18:02] <Gunni> hey i just installed ubuntu server on a machine i have, now i did install it completely and installation finished but then next time it started i just see garbage, any ideas?
[18:02] <pdtpatrick> Galaxor, right. Looks like thats the best way for now :(
[18:02] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: Yep.  One day...
[18:03] <coz_> Guest38993,   sorry that command is   xgamma  -gamma
[18:03] <wrd> !skype
[18:03] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: I liked in the regular gnome that you could do the "run application" dialog, type the full path, and then drag it onto the launch bar and it'd create a launcher.
[18:04] <Gunni> hey i just installed ubuntu server on a machine i have, now i did install it completely and installation finished but then next time it started i just see garbage, any ideas? (i did manage to find the ip it got and connect to the ssh server, any ideas?)
[18:04] <pdtpatrick> Galaxor, yes im still figuring my way out as well but it looks promising so far. So im just going to wait and see what 11.10 brings to the table.
[18:04] <Shaba1> Ok no ideas at all? anyone
[18:05] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: I should file bugs when I see stuff like this.  Feature request bugs.  Then we can make sure 11.10's got the good stuff.
[18:05] <andy_wfc> silly question: what voodoo do I need to do to run the boot up manager on 11.04? gksudo bum doesn't give any errors nor open any windows
[18:05] <soziety> notification bubble does not appear when VPN connection is established in xubuntu 10.04
[18:05] <quaisi> hi shabal: I'd advise patience in this scenario
[18:05] <rakkkta> hello, I've been at it for a few hours trying to establish network connection on a broadcom wireless (I have no ethernet possibilities), is there any educated opinion on this? :)
[18:05] <soziety> notification bubble does not appear when VPN connection is established in xubuntu 10.04, where I found this code plz?
[18:07] <SubNormal> how can I remote control my ubuntu server and GUI at my workplace from home?
[18:08] <Stramash> nomachine
[18:08] <Gunni> SubNormal use ssh
[18:08] <Gunni> or ssh + x forwarding
[18:08] <Gunni> hey i just installed ubuntu server on a machine i have, now i did install it completely and installation finished but then next time it started i just see garbage, any ideas? (i did manage to find the ip it got and connect to the ssh server, any ideas?)
[18:09] <SubNormal> Gunni you Icelandic?
[18:09] <Gunni> yes
[18:09] <quaisi> gunni / shabal: again I'd advise patience
[18:09] <Gunni> how'd ya know?
[18:09] <SubNormal> nújæja má ég PMa þig?
[18:09] <Gunni> sure
[18:10] <Galaxor> pdtpatrick: Oh man!  So I got the launcher into the bar, but the application search still doesn't turn it up!
[18:10] <SubNormal> ugh how can I PM in webchat?
[18:11] <Stramash> /query nick
[18:11] <szal> lol
[18:11] <Shaba1> Stramash: You wer quicker of the keys then me
[18:12] <Stramash> :)
[18:15] <wsagent> root
[18:16] <Shaba1> shaba1
[18:16] <wsagent> how can i change my root password  ?
[18:17] <Pici> !root | wsagent
[18:18] <Gunni> sudo passwd
[18:18] <wsagent> ubuttu: Thanks for the info
[18:18] <Gunni> :P
[18:18] <Stockholm_Angel> wsagent:  its a bot
[18:19] <Pici> !noroot | Gunni wsagent
[18:20] <Gunni> Pici i don't care, i just answered his question directly, i forbid direct root login and require ssh keys :P
[18:21] <Pici> Gunni: We'd appreciate if you'd at least provide a disclaimer if you do suggest how to change the password.
[18:21] <Gunni> hehe
[18:21] <AlReece45> Seem to be having trouble booting a fresh 10.04.2 server with an LVM root. The logical volumes appear to be just inactive whenever starting.
[18:27] <quaisi> can someone explain / point me to how to use the bots - this ! malarkey looks interesting
[18:28] <llutz> !bot | quaisi
[18:28] <quaisi> cheers llutz!
[18:29] <DDAZZA> I've just installed ubuntu 11.4 64bit and when it boots it goes into busybox (which I can exit) and then it runs like normal.  Any idea how I can resolve this?
[18:30] <quaisi> DDAZZA: System - Preferences - Startup Applications?
[18:30] <hetii> status_of_proc -p /var/run/somepidfile test233 aaaa -> this return always that process is running if the pid exists. I suppose its a bug :>
[18:31] <sarahh> registration in www.gsick.com is now open!
[18:31] <escott> DDAZZA, does it indicate why it drops you into busybox?
[18:31] <DDAZZA> not that I'm aware of.
[18:32] <v_v_vishnevskiy> http://goo.gl/gQeE0
[18:33] <Electron> What type of anti-virus program does ubuntu users run the most?
[18:33] <maco> Electron: none
[18:33] <escott> DDAZZA, make sure all your filesystems pass fsck, it could also be a delay in the enumeration of your devices, you might try playing around with rootdelay
[18:33] <escott> !antivirus
[18:33] <Electron> Was reading articles about the dangers of linux viruses.
[18:34] <Electron> It seems they do exist.
[18:34] <DDAZZA> escott, thank you I will look into that.
[18:34] <maco> Electron: there have been a few, yes. it's been a couple years since the last one though
[18:34] <escott> Electron, there are some, but there just arent enough linux systems out there to be worth a lot of av stuff. more likely is a direct attack on services
[18:34] <Electron> ok
[18:35] <maco> Electron: more common would be trojans, where the user installs something they shouldn't have. you can protect yourself against that by using the Ubuntu Software Center or apt-get for all your software needs, instead of grabbing random stuff from the internet
[18:35] <escott> Electron, set up a good firewall, enable only those services you need, etc...
[18:35] <Electron> What about malware, spyware and things like that?
[18:36] <escott> Electron, ie trojans, see maco's comments
[18:37] <maco> Electron: malware is a umbrella term including viruses & trojans and such, so...  as far as spyware, that usually comes through trojans or could be tracking cookie stuff on websites, in which case delete cookies or use a Firefox extension that lets you selectively reject cookies
[18:37] <hetii> rootkits ... :)
[18:37] <Electron> ok
[18:37] <bobweaver> could some one explain how rkhunter works ?
[18:38] <semitones> I'm having some trouble with remote desktop
[18:39] <semitones> seems I can move the mouse around on the remote compter, but can't interact with anything
[18:39] <semitones> settings allow for read/write access
[18:39] <semitones> what could be wrong
[18:41] <arrrcanum42> semitones, have you tried reconecting it?
[18:41] <quaisi> semitones: Perhaps you could have a try with another client.  I've found remmina to be very reliable
[18:42] <semitones> I haven't tried reconnecting, but it has happened a few times. I'll try remmina (although mac's vnc client couldn't interact with this laptop either)
[18:48] <Python> Hi is 10.04 or 11.04 better ?
[18:48] <Fodi69> hi guys, which program is your favourite tool for a website design creation? Inkscape? Gimp? Libreoffice Draw??
[18:48] <semitones> what is the most elegant way to make smdb start automatically?
[18:49] <semitones> (for the purpose of having windows sharing)
[18:49] <Shaba1> <---- Kompozer
[18:49] <quaisi> semitones: good luck
[18:50] <Jaden> I'm having trouble with the wubi installation, is this the right place? I've already looked at the forums and faqs and no help.
[18:50] <Fodi69> Python: if your question is for unity, than: you can use 11.04 without unity, with the normal gnome layout (same as in 10.10)
[18:51] <cmnajs> hi. I want to run google-chrome --app command using cron.. it doesn't work, any help?
[18:51] <Fodi69> Python: I think 11.04 is better in every aspect
[18:51] <Python> Fodi69: no it isn't
[18:51] <Pici> !best
[18:52] <buddha_> Jaden: what's the problem?
[18:53] <xiaoy> How to install gst-plugins-base development packages in ubuntu?
[18:54] <buddha_> xiaoy: 'sudo apt-get install gst-plugins-base-dev' maybe?
[18:54] <cmnajs> hi. I want to run google-chrome --app command using cron.. it doesn't work, any help?
[18:55] <xiaoy> buddha_, ehmm... no, no pkg called like that
[18:55] <buddha_> just a guess
[18:55] <xiaoy> :)
[18:56] <Mendishon> hi
[18:56] <buddha_> xiaoy: are there any dev pkgs for gst?
[18:56] <xiaoy> buddha_, just looking for
[18:56] <tsimpson> xiaoy: you probably want libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev
[18:57] <EgyParadox> xiaoy:I think maybe because its universe
[18:57] <especially-corn> i have this weird xorg (?) but, if i move the mouse really fast in the lower-right corner the whole system freezez and the cpu usage goes up from 4% to about 50%
[18:58] <buddha_> then don't do it
[18:58] <especially-corn> bug*
[18:58] <Mendishon> I have a XChat and auth in a QuakeNet so i don`t know how can i log in automatic
[18:59] <Snake__> Hi guys
[18:59] <xiaoy> tsimpson, yep, that did the trick ;-D
[18:59] <Snake__> is there a difference between gnome and ubuntu
[18:59] <xiaoy> tkz to all
[18:59] <especially-corn> Snake__, gnome is a desktop environment with a window manager included, ubuntu is a linux distribution
[19:00] <EgyParadox> !GNOME > Snake__
[19:00] <Snake__> ok so gnome is part of ubuntu
[19:00] <especially-corn> Snake__, it doesn't have to be
[19:00] <buddha_> not anymore
[19:00] <especially-corn> Snake__, i have ubuntu but choose to use openbox instead of gnome
[19:00] <especially-corn> Snake__, there was never a gnome in my ubuntu install
[19:00] <ISeeYou> hello everyone
[19:01] <Snake__> ok I got it THANKS GUYS
[19:01] <Snake__> :)
[19:01] <Fodi69> Snake__: normally yes, its a part of the default install
[19:01] <especially-corn> Snake__, just search for alternate window managers / desktop environments if you're interested :)
[19:01] <Snake__> ok thanks dude
[19:02] <anthony96> Can you install gnome-global-menu in ubuntu 11.04 or add window title to indicator-appmenu?
[19:02] <especially-corn> sure no problem
[19:02] <bool> Hi, is there a pdf browser-plugin other than adobe reader?
[19:03] <n-iCe> hi, is there a network-manager channel?
[19:04] <ISeeYou> i have a problem with my netbook when i'm trying to boot from the usb to intalll ubuntu
[19:04] <especially-corn> n-iCe, i don't think so, whats your problem?
[19:04] <n-iCe> Well, network-manager says I am using a driver, but I am sure I am not using that driver, so I don't get it, indeed it is blacklisted already
[19:04] <buddha_> ISeeYou: what happens?
[19:04] <n-iCe> especially-corn: I am using r8187 and says rtl8187 don't know why
[19:05] <especially-corn> it doesn't really affect your system's performance does it?
[19:05] <Zombie> I have my situation under control.
[19:05] <Python> what is faster 11.04 or 10.04
[19:05] <aeon-ltd> Python: depends
[19:05] <aeon-ltd> Python: but if you want speed tweak it until you like it
[19:05] <ISeeYou> buddha: i see something about syslinux, (like version etc.) for a while and then i'm getting a black page with a cursor
[19:06] <Python> aeon-ltd: ?
[19:06] <ISeeYou> buddha: and nothing else, i cant do anything there
[19:06] <buddha_> ISeeYou: have you tried burning the image again. might just be a bad image
[19:07] <Python> do 11.04 have more features than 10.04 ?
[19:07] <aeon-ltd> Python: some people find unity (new interface) faster and more usable whilst others like classic gnome; but personally if you want 'speed' (i.e max performance, least loading times etc)
[19:07] <aeon-ltd> Python: yes 11.04 does have some more features
[19:07] <Pici> Python: Haven't we been over this already?
[19:07] <ISeeYou> buddha_: yes i've tried also another dist, but i've checked on another pc and it works fine
[19:08] <buddha_> ok
[19:08] <corrytonapple> Python:  yes 11.04 has more features
[19:08] <buddha_> ISeeYou: you have the right architecture I assume?
[19:08] <ISeeYou> buddha_: yes i386
[19:08] <Python> aeon-ltd: yeah  i want 'speed' (i.e max performance, least loading times etc)
[19:09] <corrytonapple> The loading times are the same on both Python
[19:09] <ISeeYou> buddha_: i''l find the link for you with the guy with the same problem
[19:09] <Electron> why would you want to go with 10.04?
[19:10] <[S^K]> hi when I try to install java sdk with "sudo apt-get sun-java6-jdk" it says it has no "installation candidate", what is going wrong?
[19:10] <Oli> Do the repositories of old unsupported releases get shut down when support expires?
[19:10] <mabrowning> [S^K]: you need the patner repository
[19:10] <mabrowning> partner*
[19:10] <willwh> hi folks - anyone outside of the US using google voice for calls? (If so.... how?)
[19:10] <[S^K]> mabrowning: What is the name of it? Thanks
[19:10] <buddha_> ISeeYou: does it just sit on black screen forever?
[19:11] <ISeeYou> buddha_: yes
[19:11] <corrytonapple> Electron:  because it is an LTS
[19:11] <mabrowning> [S^K]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding_Canonical_Partner_Repositories
[19:12] <[S^K]> mabrowning: thank you
[19:12] <Electron> corrytonapple, ok
[19:12] <aeon-ltd> Python: then what are your specifications of your pc?
[19:12] <corrytonapple> You will get updates for a long time..... with the LTS
[19:12] <semitones-tea> what's the 11.04 way of starting gdm from commandline?
[19:13] <buddha_> ISeeYou: it may not be an option but have you tried a CD?
[19:13] <semitones-tea> i booted from livecd but I'm dumped in a terminal
[19:13] <ISeeYou> buddha_: i have no any external cd drive for netbook
[19:13] <Electron> corrytonapple, I see.
[19:13] <GOGNOME> http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/04/24/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-10-10-10-04/ is this the right way to install gnome 3
[19:14] <Python> aeon-ltd: i5-450m, GMA HD, 320 GB, 2gb ram
[19:14] <anthony96> can you install gnome-global-menu in gnome ubuntu 11.04?
[19:14] <aeon-ltd> Python: heh no need really, gnome classic will be fine
[19:14] <corrytonapple> Python, you would be fine on either with that hardware
[19:14] <aeon-ltd> Python: until you reach a level of 'strain' you won't need to change
[19:14] <corrytonapple> With 11.04 you can get to Unity or GNOME classic, with 10.04 you can only get to GNOME Classic
[19:16] <especially-corn> i have a xorg problem
[19:16] <ISeeYou> buddha_: heres the 2 comments http://paste.ubuntu.com/638544/
[19:16] <aeon-ltd> especially-corn: describe it to the channek
[19:16] <aeon-ltd> *channel
[19:16] <especially-corn> the cpu usage goes up from 4 to 50% every time the cursor gets there http://i.imm.io/78ZQ.png
[19:17] <ISeeYou> buddha_: and my netbook is also acer (aspire one)
[19:17] <Electron> heh I don't even know if I am using gnome or unity...
[19:17] <especially-corn> and if i monitor the activity in top, its xorg that causes that, it jumps up to 100% processor use
[19:17] <buddha_> ISeeYou: ok so might be the same BIOS problem
[19:17] <Electron> when i first placed this on here it gave me an error saying hardware didn't support unity...so i probably am using gnome
[19:18] <ISeeYou> buddha_: i've never had this problem before, i've installed some dist (ubuntu netbook and debian) few months ago without any problem
[19:19] <buddha_> ISeeYou: have you tried the "workaround" as described in the link? :)
[19:19] <ISeeYou> buddha_: now i've discovered that the usb stick is detected by bios on "USB FDD" not "USB HDD" as before
[19:20] <buddha_> whaaa?
[19:20] <buddha_> ISeeYou: That is crazytalk. What kind of USB are you using?
[19:21] <ISeeYou> buddha_: its 4GB Kingston
[19:21] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[19:21] <linusA> "sudo modprobe -r pcspkr" doesnt report an  error, but after issuing the pc speaker continues to function. Any suggestions?
[19:21] <ISeeYou> buddha_: model 100 G2
[19:22] <buddha_> ok
[19:24] <buddha_> ISeeYou: got a link that might shed some light on things: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1666165
[19:25] <ISeeYou> buddha_: thx, ill check this
[19:25] <NoWayJose> Dang.  I opened a terminal and typed unity and my whole system froze up. whats up with that?
[19:25] <lukafulmine> hi, i have a problem with my usb drive kingston data traveler g2 8gb,when i connect on my pc,this work,but 2 minutes later the usb disconnect,like a problem of alimentation
[19:25] <sisif> Hello. Can somebody please explain how I can set up the bluetooth to be initialized at boot time (just like it was in 10.04). Because any newer version of Ubuntu after that one (10.04) does not recognize my BT module ..
[19:26] <stercor> I've just upgraded my desktop computer to 11.04.  When it starts bootup, the monitor displays "Out of Sync" and the boot process stops.  Suggestions?
[19:26] <buddha_> ISeeYou: fuck sorry looks like its just about making a bootable USB
[19:26] <lukafulmine> but i don't know why,i have connect this first in the front usb panel,after in the rear usb panel,but i have the same problem...
[19:26] <linusA> @sisif is the bluetooth applet still in start up applications?
[19:26] <IdleOne> buddha_: Please mind your language
[19:27] <linusA> @ stercor delete xorg.conf
[19:27] <NoWayJose> Why would typing unity lock up a system>
[19:27] <buddha_> sorry bro
[19:27] <stercor> linusA: Thanks!
[19:28] <NoWayJose> :/
[19:29] <sisif> linusA: the thing is like this. My BT in my notebook has a sort-of kill switch (t`s not on / off  -it`s those kind that you press only once to activate / de-act) which is broken - hence I can`t enable my bluetooth. Now, in 10.04 it was enabled by default at boot time. The thing is that in any later versions of Ubuntu, the bluetooth is not recognized (and have the module installed) UNLESS it`s turned on.
[19:30] <linusA> @sisif is the bluetooth applet still in start up applications?
[19:30] <opera> can you help me for currect metaexploit version to hack this site http://diablobg.com
[19:30] <sisif> linusA, no, it is not.
[19:30] <oCean> opera: no
[19:31] <NoWayJose> how does a newbie know whether he is running gnome or unity ?
[19:31] <opera> nobody ?
[19:31] <oCean> opera: illegal activities are offtopic on this network. Stop the discussion now
[19:31] <linusA> @sisif start there, if you really dont want that then, insert your bluetooth dongle or what ever you where talking about turing it "bluetooth-applet"on. when run
[19:32] <ZykoticK9> NoWayJose, is your "bar" along the left side?
[19:32] <buddha_> NoWayJose: if there is a sidebar with large icons on the left side , its unity
[19:32] <NoWayJose> ZykoticK9, no
[19:32] <buddha_> NoWayJose: then its probably Gnome2
[19:32] <ZykoticK9> NoWayJose, then probably Gnome - do you see "application" "places" "system" at top left?
[19:32] <linusA> literally bluetooth is completly plug and play with all supported hardware.
[19:32] <oCean> sisif: what does the command  rfkill list  output?
[19:33] <NoWayJose> so thats the only difference is a sidebar...thats not much of a difference
[19:33] <NoWayJose> ZykoticK9, Yes.
[19:33] <BiggFREE> When booting my VM (11.04), the Virtualbox-guest-additions is not detected by Vbox. Why ? I can't boot.
[19:33] <Fodi69> which image editor is good for website design planning? gimp? inkscape? libreoffice draw? else?
[19:33] <ZykoticK9> NoWayJose, you are using Gnome
[19:34] <TheNander> Ello
[19:34] <Shaba1> I use gimp
[19:34] <Electron> .
[19:34] <BiggFREE> I compiled my own kernel though.
[19:34] <TheNander> Yeah Gino
[19:34] <TheNander> I mean gin
[19:34] <TheNander> Mp
[19:34] <sisif> oCean, been that road already. Not working ..
[19:34] <NoWayJose> ZykoticK9, ok thanks
[19:34] <Shaba1> and if there is soemthing I cannot do with gimp I use inkscape then convert to png or jpg and use gimp on it
[19:34] <TheNander> Damn autcorrect
[19:34] <linusA> @fodi69 gimp is best for the web
[19:35] <buddha_> I tried gin for webdesign
[19:35] <buddha_> didn't go over well. apparently
[19:35] <Fodi69> :D :D
[19:35] <linusA> inkscape is awesome for graphic design, but with the limted quality requirements of the net, vector graphics are over kill
[19:35] <TheNander> My wget keeps freezing anyone know how to fix this?
[19:35] <sisif> linusA, what I was trying to explain: there is NO blutooth-applet since my bt INTERNAL dongle (laptop) is not powering on.
[19:35] <TheNander> On ubuntu 10.10
[19:35] <BrianOfTacoma> What is the command to delete all files of a certain type from a folder and all recursive folders within?  I tried : rm -R *.mp3
[19:35] <Fodi69> linusA: it's just planning, later I have to create a drupal theme from it
[19:36] <ashmed90> I forgot password of my Ubuntu on my laptop. What should I do?
[19:36] <linusA> @sisif yes bluetooth-applet is an application in gnome
[19:36] <Shaba1> then I use Kompozer for the layout and eclipse if I HAVE to do any javascript/java/or ajax programming on the site
[19:36] <sisif> oCean, and rfkill only shows me the WLAN switch
[19:36] <llutz> BrianOfTacoma: find path/ -iname *.mp3 -delete
[19:36] <BiggFREE> When booting my VM (11.04), the Virtualbox-guest-additions is not detected by Vbox. Why ? I can't boot.
[19:36] <BiggFREE> I compiled my own kernel though.
[19:36] <maco> BrianOfTacoma: i think..     find . -name *.mp3 -type f -exec rm {} \;
[19:36] <astraljava> BrianOfTacoma: find . -name "*.mp3" -exec rm {} \;
[19:36] <maco> llutz: ooh there's a -delete? handy!
[19:36] <BrianOfTacoma> wow lots of choices
[19:36] <oCean> linusA: you realise '@' is not necessary to address someone?
[19:37] <TheNander> ashmed90: there's an article on google I found
[19:37] <sisif> linusA, ok, let me rephrase that: i get nothingin bluetoot applet since my BT device is not powering on.
[19:37] <BrianOfTacoma> thanks
[19:37] <Fodi69> Shaba1: i'm trying out Komposer
[19:37] <oCean> sisif: oh, ok. It'll probably only list when the hw switch is turned to on
[19:37] <linusA> then power it on
[19:37] <ashmed90> TheNander: Can you please tell me the searchwords or please provide the link? :)
[19:37] <llutz> maco: at least gnu-find has
[19:37] <Shaba1> it take a while to get use to Fodi69
[19:37] <TheNander> That can fix that. Try searching your problem, it's somewhere near the top.
[19:37] <Shaba1> there are some nice tutorials on youtube though
[19:37] <TheNander> Not sure which keywords
[19:37] <ashmed90> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=615512
[19:38] <BrianOfTacoma> llutz ... do I need -iname ... everyone else used -name
[19:38] <Shaba1> and if you can get charles clarkes book that is the definative guide
[19:38] <linusA> if bluetooth-applet is running and a bluetooth dongle signal is recieved by the kernel, gnome will display the applet
[19:38] <claviusmond> are there plans to update novell moonlight to ff5 and ff6?
[19:38] <Shaba1> but be kind to his bandwidth
[19:38] <sisif> oCean, indeed. The thing is that since 10.11 there was something modified in the way stuff are loaded at boot time which prevents my BT internal usb dongle not powering up ...
[19:38] <ashmed90> TheNander: ah okay,thank you though.
[19:38] <llutz> BrianOfTacoma: iname won't care about mp3/MP3  uppper-/lowercase etc
[19:38] <BrianOfTacoma> ah nice.  Thanks ...
[19:38] <oCean> sisif: ok, sorry I have no idea about that
[19:39] <sisif> oCean, Np. Thanks anyway
[19:39] <linusA> check the hardware lists. the only reason I can imagine is your hardware was blacklisted
[19:39] <BiggFREE> Anyone familiar with VM in Vbox ?
[19:39] <TheNander> Anyone have an idea as to why my wget keeps freezing?
[19:40] <linusA> @sisif, if it is blacklisted you can still usually use the older driver with stability risks accepted
[19:40] <sisif> linusA, AFAIK, there was a "bug" some time ago which make all BT / WLAN devices on notebooks be powered on at boot time. Since then it was sold - hence my trouble begun. And what drives my NUTS - under Windows I can use a software tool to power on my BT
[19:40] <OogyPoogy> ?
[19:41] <buddha_> BiggFREE: I've got Natty in a VM. What seems to be the problem?
[19:41] <ashmed90> TheNander: Oh man it was recovery mode! How could I forget thanks!
[19:41] <cpgo> how do you see a refreshing memory usage screen in a shell (I know top but it shows processes too, I just need memory)
[19:41] <BiggFREE> I compiled my own kernel though.
[19:41] <TheNander> Np
[19:41] <sisif> linusA, can you point me to the place where I can see what modules are blacklisted ?
[19:41] <BiggFREE> After doing I can't boot anymore
[19:41] <BrianOfTacoma> Omg ... CLI is amazing for mass file management!  Thank you so much
[19:41] <TheNander> No one can help with my wget I
[19:42] <BiggFREE> After doing It can't boot anymore
[19:42] <TheNander> Issue?
[19:42] <BrianOfTacoma> Is there a course on CLI for linux?
[19:42] <BrianOfTacoma> I want to learn and use as much as possible
[19:42] <KujaxSword-> how do i unmount -bind a file
[19:42] <maco> BrianOfTacoma: a system administration course should include lots of cli stuff.  getting the LPI certification study book would work too though
[19:42] <tsimpson> KujaxSword-: with the "umount" command
[19:43] <TheNander> :/ no one knows wget?
[19:43] <maco> TheNander: is it just stalling out? you can ctrl+c and then use wget -c <same url>   to restart where it left off
[19:43] <BrianOfTacoma> get a link for that Maco?
[19:43] <KujaxSword-> maco, my e-girlfriend!
[19:43] <BrianOfTacoma> maco: got a link for a place where one can get that LPI cert. study book?
[19:43] <maco> BrianOfTacoma: http://www.amazon.com/LPIC-1-Linux-Professional-Institute-Certification/dp/0470404833/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1309895017&sr=8-1 this is the one i've got
[19:43] <BrianOfTacoma> grazI!
[19:44] <maco> KujaxSword-: no thanks
[19:44] <TheNander> Maco: it starts and says connecting. Then stops
[19:44] <Electron> ZykoticK9, Can you tell me why when I typed unity in my terminal while ago the system froze up
[19:44] <christopher> Hi people
[19:44] <KujaxSword-> tsimpson, i  sudo mount -bind /proc /fileetc
[19:44] <ZykoticK9> Electron, you might need "unity --replace" but i'm certainly not sure, i've never used unity.  Best of luck.
[19:44] <christopher> Can anyone confirm Thunderbird in the next release?
[19:44] <KujaxSword-> -o bind, tsimpson
[19:44] <tsimpson> KujaxSword-: so you'd use "sudo umount /fileetc"
[19:45] <buddha_> BiggFREE: Did you compile VBox support into your kernel?
[19:45] <Electron> ok
[19:45] <tsimpson> KujaxSword-: /proc will still be there, just un-bound from /fileetc
[19:45] <buddha_> christopher: thunderbird is pretty much a done deal in 11.10
[19:45] <Pici> christopher: Best to ask in the channel for the next release: #ubuntu+1
[19:45] <BiggFREE> buddha_ ... I didn't modify any options when doing "make menuconfig"
[19:46] <maco> TheNander: so it doesnt even get to start downloading anything at all?
[19:46] <christopher> forgive me but this is my first Ubuntu / Linux OS so everything is very very new
[19:46] <KujaxSword-> tsimpson, it saying device is still busy
[19:46] <Senjai> Is there a way, if you know a process ID, to set a terminal to view its output, as if you started it in terminal?
[19:46] <maco> TheNander: any chance you're using a proxy for most stuff but havent set wget's proxy?
[19:46] <TheNander> Doesnt even show the download bar
[19:46] <TheNander> Nope no proxy
[19:46] <christopher> Pici Thank you for that! new to IRC too!
[19:46] <BiggFREE> buddha_ ... Maybe I had to do it.
[19:47] <maco> TheNander: no 404 errors or anything like that? could you pastebin the output?
[19:47] <buddha_> BiggFREE: I don't think so it should be part of the mainline kernel.
[19:47] <TheNander> I'm on my mobile ATM so I can't.
[19:48] <BiggFREE> buddha_ ... Ok
[19:48] <edward_> Hi
[19:48] <buddha_> BiggFREE: does VBox work with ubuntu kernel?
[19:48] <TheNander> Wanted to know so when I get home I could try
[19:48] <tsimpson> KujaxSword-: then something is probably using /fileetc, see what "sudo lsof|grep /fileetc" says is using it
[19:48] <BiggFREE> buddha_ ... Yes It did with the default kernel.
[19:49] <KujaxSword-> oh, tsimpson, i was in it
[19:49] <semitones> any idea how to start lubuntu from the commandline? (i'm on a live cd) before you ask, I posed that question in #lubuntu already 20 minutes ago
[19:50] <BiggFREE> buddha_ ... I'll try a new workaround.   Thanks for your help.
[19:50] <buddha_> BiggFREE: This might help: http://lgallardo.com/en/2009/05/03/recompilando-el-modulo-del-kernel-de-virtualboxrecompiling-virtualbox-kernel-module/
[19:50] <BiggFREE> buddha_ ... It is noted.
[19:50] <KujaxSword-> i'm sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /fileetc/etc/resolv.conf but it's saying can't create reg file.
[19:51] <HackJunky> hey can i get some help real quick?
[19:51] <bytesaber_work> when adding a smb mount to fstab, what does dir_mode= mean?
[19:51] <bytesaber_work> can't find any docs on it
[19:51] <buddha_> BiggFREE: cool beans
[19:51] <Diverdude1> It happens quite often when i have either chrome or firefox running that when i switch between windows (i usually have many windows and programs open, but it alwas happens when FF or chrome is open), that the system completely locks. The only thing i can do is move the mouse around. keyboard is disabled and i cannot click anything. The only way to solve it is to cut the power and loose all changes. This is very annoying, and actually happ
[19:51] <Diverdude1> ens quite often. How can i find out what goes wrong so that i may solve it?
[19:51] <KujaxSword-> HackJunky, you usually ask the question first
[19:52] <HackJunky> rite :D
[19:52] <HackJunky> ok so i need some help with a sound card
[19:52] <BiggFREE> buddha_ ... I'll take a look at this link. I bookmarked it.  Thanks again.
[19:52] <HackJunky> i have an ATI SB card, according to hardware manager.. but i cant find the driver
[19:52] <HackJunky> and OSS and the generic drivers dont work
[19:52] <KujaxSword-> i'm sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /fileetc/etc/resolv.conf but it's saying can't create reg file. why is this?
[19:52] <HackJunky> yet ATI has no linux support for the card
[19:53] <KujaxSword-> yeah ATI blows for ubuntu
[19:53] <buddha_> BiggFREE: no problem
[19:53] <KujaxSword-> my experience
[19:53] <edward_> Hi, i have installed ssh  and i noticed that i can see other users home directory(with a non root account), I know  i can change permissions to restrict the access, but can i get them only visible to the owner?
[19:53] <HackJunky> haha yea i can tell
[19:53] <HackJunky> so far, no support for any of my hardware thats ATI
[19:53] <HackJunky> and its killin me
[19:53] <KujaxSword-> nvidia... auto finds drivers...
[19:53] <HackJunky> but ATI couldnt care less
[19:54] <silentz0r> hello, i have ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop, and my ethernet port is not recognised by the system (no eth0 interface). What's wrong?
[19:54] <Diverdude1> It happens quite often when i have either chrome or firefox running that when i switch between windows (i usually have many windows and programs open, but it alwas happens when FF or chrome is open), that the system completely locks. The only thing i can do is move the mouse around. keyboard is disabled and i cannot click anything. The only way to solve it is to cut the power and loose all changes. This is very annoying, and actually happ
[19:54] <Diverdude1> ens quite often. How can i find out what goes wrong so that i may solve it?
[19:54] <n-iCe> hi, I install skype from skype.com but once it is installed and I try to launch it a kernel panics come, how can I know WHY
[19:56] <ashmed90> Anyone knows from where I can edit grub menu's? Lappy has 10.04 Lucid. Please?
[19:57] <buddha_> ashmed90: what do you want to edit?
[19:57] <ZykoticK9> ashmed90, depends what you want to edit.
[19:57] <ashmed90> buddha_ Zykotick9: I just want to push Windows 7 above :)
[19:57] <ZykoticK9> n-iCe, did you try skype from the partner repo?  kernel panics can be difficult to diagnose (equivalent to BSOD in Windows)
[19:57] <n-iCe> ZykoticK9: found this in logs, what do you think? http://pastebin.com/QN0e6Jsy
[19:57] <n-iCe> ZykoticK9: yes I tried
[19:58] <ashmed90> buddha_ ZykoticK9: Actually I want to edit GRUB
[19:58] <ashmed90> buddha_ ZykoticK9: Boot lists.
[19:58] <ZykoticK9> ashmed90, probably more work then it's worth.  have a look at the !grub2 link.
[19:58] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 | ashmed90
[19:58] <ScottR4> I'm having trouble setting up my network printer (HP PhotoSmart c7280); when I try to find it by IP address, it says I have to log in (not sure to what), and then hangs when I click OK
[19:59] <ashmed90> ZykoticK9: Uh okay.
[19:59] <ZykoticK9> n-iCe, sorry your pastebin doesn't mean anything to me really.  Best of luck.
[19:59] <ZykoticK9> ashmed90, setting the default is fairly easy though.  it's in /etc/default/grub - you need to run "sudo update-grub2" after any changes to that file.
[20:00] <oem> ppp++
[20:01] <silentz0r> my ethernet port is not recognised by ubuntu, and I have no ethernet interface. How can i make one?
[20:01] <buddha_> ashmed90: its possible to create a custom boot entry for Windows (/etc/grub.d/40_custom) and then 'mv /etc/grub.d/40_custom /etc/grub.d/09_Custom'
[20:01] <ZykoticK9> silentz0r, what card?  "lspci | grep -i net" might tell you
[20:01] <HackJunky> any way to get open-gl support with no hardware acceleration?
[20:02] <silentz0r> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[20:02] <ZykoticK9> HackJunky, opengl is hardware acceleration (more or less)
[20:02] <HackJunky> ah thanks
[20:02] <HackJunky> then my question changes, any way to get graphics support for ATI?
[20:02] <silentz0r> ZykoticK9: 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[20:03] <Guest85462> hello all, what is the key combination to show the grub menu on 10.04 ? Escape is not working
[20:03] <ZykoticK9> silentz0r, see if this post helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868077
[20:03] <bbluz>  hi all
[20:03] <BluesKaj> Guest85462, the shift key
[20:04] <silentz0r> ZykoticK9: just google'd it myself :P Will read up, thanks
[20:04] <Guest85462> BluesKaj, ok will try that
[20:04] <dongbag> hi, im trying to install php-imap module into php 5.2.1 and its telling me that required dependancy libc-client2007e is missing and cannot be installled - any idea why?
[20:04] <ZykoticK9> Guest85462, just hold shift down after bios screen
[20:05] <BluesKaj> Guest85462, hold it down atthe bios pge til grub appears
[20:05] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, great minds...
[20:05] <xubuntu-plus> Ragazzi ma non si puo togliere quello schifo di sfondo dietro le icone di Xubuntu????
[20:05] <ZykoticK9> !es | xubuntu-plus
[20:05] <bbluz> is there any linux-cluster Guru in here ?
[20:05] <BluesKaj> ZykoticK9, I won't finish that phrase :)
[20:06] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, "... and fools seldom differ"
[20:06] <xubuntu-plus> sono italiano non capisco
[20:06] <dongbag> p
[20:06] <ZykoticK9> !it | xubuntu-plus
[20:06] <silentz0r> ZykoticK9: i'm getting an error when adding the given option. The error is that this option doesn't exist.
[20:06] <ZykoticK9> xubuntu-plus, sorry
[20:06] <buddha_> good save
[20:06] <dongbag> pho-imap wont install - libc-client is missing and not installable - any idea why?
[20:07] <BluesKaj> ZykoticK9, it's differnt here ..it used to be idiots :)
[20:07] <dongbag> do i really have to install it manually?
[20:07] <ZykoticK9> silentz0r, that would certainly explain your issue :)  Sorry i've never used that hardware before.  Best of luck.
[20:07] <bbluz> I I jsut want to know if anyone has ever installed mpich ?
[20:08] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, wikipedia FTW https://secure.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/en/wiki/great_minds_think_alike
[20:08] <dongbag> anyone? know why php-imap wont install?  libc-client2007e missing
[20:09] <ZykoticK9> silentz0r, what "option doesn't exits"?
[20:09] <astraljava> ZykoticK9: For future reference, there's opengl software rendering: http://superuser.com/questions/106056/force-software-based-opengl-rendering
[20:10] <silentz0r> ZykoticK9: e1000: Unknow parameter 'eeprom_bad_csum_allow'
[20:10] <ZykoticK9> silentz0r, as a single command try "sudo modprobe -r e1000 && sudo modprobe e1000 eeprom_bad_csum_allow=1" no quotes
[20:10] <dongbag> noone helps?
[20:10] <ZykoticK9> astraljava, thanks
[20:11] <silentz0r> ZykoticK9: I've already removed the module. should I re-load it?
[20:11] <ashmed90> ZykoticK9: Thanks its all resolved now. Bubye.
[20:11] <astraljava> dongbag: It's there on 11.04, what release are you using?
[20:11] <ZykoticK9> astraljava, i'm not sure how much software rendering will help you - what are you trying to do?
[20:11] <astraljava> ZykoticK9: Nothing, Hacky<something> asked for it.
[20:12] <dongbag> it doesnt seem to be there im using 8.04 i believe
[20:12] <ZykoticK9> silentz0r, just try the reload command then "sudo modprobe e1000 eeprom_bad_csum_allow=1"
[20:12] <ZykoticK9> astraljava, gotcha :)
[20:12] <astraljava> dongbag: Right. That release is outdated, and there's no support for it. Please upgrade.
[20:13] <ZykoticK9> dongbag, "lsb_release -a" in a terminal to find out your version
[20:13] <ScottR4> Is there somewhere I could go for more assistance with my printing troubles? I need to get this fixed sooner not later... :(
[20:13] <KM0201> ScottR4: the forums maybe?... whats your printer?
[20:13] <astraljava> dongbag: Well, server gets support still. Yeah, please do as ZykoticK9 tells you to.
[20:13] <ScottR4> KM0201: HP PhotoSmart c7280
[20:14] <KM0201> ScottR4: most HP's have pretty good linux support, have you looked at HP's website?
[20:14] <dongbag> yep 8.04 - how do i upgrade - might it break something?
[20:15] <KM0201> dongbag: upgrading is always a risk.
[20:15] <KM0201> !upgrade | dongbag
[20:15] <dongbag> oh no - i was hoping to not have to
[20:15] <KM0201> dongbag: to not have to what?
[20:15] <dongbag> will things get replaced, like for instance im running php5.2.1 and ubuntu always tries to upgrade me to 5.3.3
[20:16] <dongbag> to upgrade
[20:16] <silentz0r> ZykoticK9: do you know how I could get the list of options for a module?
[20:16] <ScottR4> KM0201: Not yet. This worked when I had 10.10, but I downgraded to 10.04 because I botched that install and wanted an LTS solution... now I can't set it up
[20:16] <ZykoticK9> ScottR4, does this help?  sudo modprobe e1000 eeprom_bad_csum_allow=1"
[20:16] <KM0201> dongbag: most likely...
[20:16] <ZykoticK9> silentz0r, sorry, no idea.
[20:16] <KM0201> ScottR4: well if you don't want to upgrade, then don't upgrade
[20:16] <KM0201> sorry, dongbag see above
[20:16] <dongbag> jeez i hav to pretty much rebuild my server again?
[20:16] <ZykoticK9> ScottR4, sorry (paste fail) - https://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/hp-photosmart-c7280-with-ubuntu/
[20:17] <silentz0r> ZykoticK9: 'modinfo module' is the answer :p
[20:17] <ZykoticK9> silentz0r, thanks - good to know
[20:18] <ScottR4> ZykoticK9: "FATAL: Error inserting e1000 (/lib/modules/2.6.32-32-generic/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/e1000.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[20:18] <ScottR4> "
[20:18] <KM0201> !info hplip | ScottR4
[20:18] <ZykoticK9> ScottR4, sorry (paste fail) - https://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/hp-photosmart-c7280-with-ubuntu/
[20:18] <ScottR4> KM0201: Not going to upgrade again, but I just want to print...
[20:18] <KM0201> ScottR4: have you tried installing hplip?.. it looks like it supports that device
[20:18] <bazhang> http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/hp-photosmart-c7280-with-ubuntu/ ScottR4
[20:18] <ZykoticK9> silentz0r, are you getting the same thing ScottR4 did?
[20:18] <io> !info hpijs-ppds
[20:19] <ScottR4> KM0201: It's supported, and installed, but it's the installation problem that's giving me issues
[20:19] <io> ScottR4: installed that?
[20:19] <KM0201> ..
[20:19] <bazhang> ScottR4, check the link I just gave you
[20:19] <ScottR4> I've installed all that stuff. hplip, hpijs, hpijs-ppds
[20:19] <silentz0r> ZykoticK9: yes
[20:19] <ScottR4> bazhang: already did after ZykoticK9 sent it to me, it says it all works out of the box... that's why I'm here, because it appears to be doing not that
[20:20] <KNUBBIG> Hey, has anybody any experience with Xen and has some spare time to answer some questions? Thanks
[20:20] <ZykoticK9> silentz0r, ummm not good - thus your question about "how to see module options" obviously.  Best of luck man!
[20:20] <astraljava> dongbag: php-imap isn't in the repositories for your release, so you will have to install that manually anyway. If you need to stay on that release, then please install all of its dependencies manually as well.
[20:20] <io> ScottR4: you can connect to it through the IP?
[20:20] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen KNUBBIG check this please
[20:21] <ScottR4> KM0201 ZykoticK9 io bazhang: when I go to "Add" in System->Administration->Printers, I go to "Network Printer -> Find Network Printer", put in the IP, then it asks me to log in to the domain WORKGROUP... which I don't know where that's coming from
[20:21] <ScottR4> io: It picks it up, lets me install it, seems to know what's going on, and then it won't print... it says error connecting
[20:21] <cortexman_> how do I obtain a non-TLS version of glibc?
[20:23] <ScottR4> KM0201 ZykoticK9 io bazhang: I think there's a network issue behind all this but I don't know how to fix it. This worked fine when I had 10.10 so I don't think it's my actual network setup that's giving me a problem
[20:23] <soreau> cortexman: Why do you think you need it?
[20:23] <edward_megginson> evening. I having an issue when I open a file from the browser in the image viewer, then save from the image viewer (ubuntu 10.04) the file is locked for some reason, permissions are messed up. However if i save the file without opening first, it works as it should .Ideas?
[20:23] <KNUBBIG> bazhang: thanks
[20:23] <dongbag> ubuntu says - Not all updates can be installed - partial upgrade?
[20:24] <ZykoticK9> dongbag, "partial upgrade" means something is going to break!  proceed with extreme caution!!!
[20:24] <jeremymcs> trying to find out how to add reiser4fs support to 11.04. it seems ext2/3/4 won't support anything over 2tb
[20:24] <jeremymcs> anyone have any pointers ?
[20:24] <dongbag> im on linode and do have a backup from yesterday - u think i should risk it?
[20:25] <ZykoticK9> dongbag, if you get a "partial upgrade" message your best bet is install aptitude and run "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" which WON'T break things!
[20:26] <dongbag> should i presss cancel to partial updates, update the ticked pcks and then do a full upgrade?
[20:26] <bazhang> http://kernelnewbies.org/Ext4 jeremymcs ext4 supports file size of at least 16tb
[20:26] <ZykoticK9> dongbag, or at least "shouldn't break things" ;)
[20:26] <jeremymcs> bazhang, correct .. but my format is only showing 2
[20:26] <jeremymcs> out of the 8
[20:27] <jdevel> Anyone here have google voice?
[20:27] <jdevel> and lives in the US?
[20:27] <bazhang> jdevel, not on topic here
[20:27] <dongbag> im wondering how do i keep my server stable and also keep up to date regularly - maybe update once a month? or when a new release occurs??
[20:28] <bazhang> jdevel, #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat
[20:28] <jdevel> ok  thanks
[20:28] <jeremymcs> bazhang, yeah, only 2.0TB on ext4 .. mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sda1 .. and i get 2tb
[20:29] <astraljava> dongbag: server usually won't become unstable by updates. It's the adding of new software that does it. But if it's a critical one, you should always check updates before applying them, and plan a maintenance break when you apply everything accumulated thus far.
[20:30] <ZykoticK9> jeremymcs, ext4 has a limit of 16 TiB - so i think your issue lies elsewhere
[20:30] <astraljava> dongbag: Upgrade to a new release only when necessary. Meaning when you absolutely need new components that are not available for that release, or the support ends (due to end-of-life).
 yeah so all the new things installed - php postfix mysql postrgresql maildrop courier amavisd etc could have problems?
[20:31] <edward_megginson> looks like my issue is isolated to the eye of gnome application. It wants to save files from firefox with the wrong permissions. Ideas?
[20:31] <ZykoticK9> jeremymcs, FYI BIOS has a 2TB limit on standard MBR style partitions
[20:31] <TheDeathly> I cant really figure out what is wrong, i just know php scrips that want to create thunmbnails can't for some reason. i cant figure out why for the life of me
[20:31] <jeremymcs> ZykoticK9, i think its lame fstab's limit
[20:31] <jeremymcs> lemme try parted
[20:31] <robin0800> jeremymcs: perhaps its a 2TB partition and not the full disk try disk utility
[20:32] <astraljava> dongbag: Most likely not, once they're _successfully_ updated. It's the process that might sometimes get hiccups. Those (or at least most of those) are very well tested applications, and shouldn't have problems if correctly configured.
[20:32] <ZykoticK9> jeremymcs, you need to use some fancy non-MBR to get > 2TB
[20:32] <_numbers> how do i reset alsa in ubuntu 11.04
[20:33] <metallico> anyone had any luck on uninstalling gnome shell? :)
[20:33] <bazhang> metallico, gnome3?
[20:33] <metallico> yes
[20:33] <ZykoticK9> !gnome3 | metallico
[20:33] <_numbers> things sound funny and im pretty sure if i could restart the alsa service it would work again
[20:33] <bazhang> _numbers, what do you mean reset? what have you done?
[20:33] <bazhang> metallico, reinstall everything and dont use
[20:33] <ppq> hi there. what is the easiest way to install a 2.6.39 kernel with ubuntu patches in ubuntu 11.04?
[20:34] <_numbers> bazhang: sometimes when i open too many virtualbox with sound enabled, then they like fight or something and the sound gets choppy and ultra high-pitched almost unrecognizable
 so do you think i will have to downgrade to php5.2.1 if I upgrade - is there any way i can select php to not install?
[20:34] <_numbers> bazhang: the only fix i know is to reboot. but i wish i could restart alsa service
[20:34] <_numbers> bazhang: only happens sometimes. not consistently reproducable
[20:34] <metallico> i've installed kde untill i finish something i am workin on and then will do a format. thanks
[20:35] <robin0800> ppq: enable proposed in software sources
[20:35] <ZykoticK9> _numbers, http://knol.google.com/k/william-wynn/how-to-restart-alsa-sound-driver-in/3fegkfxlkmrqb/10#
[20:36] <_numbers> ZykoticK9: sudo: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils: command not found
[20:36] <astraljava> dongbag: I have no idea. If it's installed while upgrading, and the newer release doesn't have that version anymore, it will upgrade that too.
[20:36] <glda19> hi
[20:36] <ZykoticK9> _numbers, you could try "sudo service alsa-utils stop" instead
[20:36] <astraljava> dongbag: Might wanna try askubuntu.com or the forums for that one, unless someone else here knows. Sorry!
[20:36] <_numbers> ZykoticK9: alsa-utils: unrecognized service
[20:36] <_numbers> and when i try to sudo apt-get install alsa-utils: alsa-utils is already the newest version.
[20:37] <_numbers> its dif in natty for some reason
[20:37] <ZykoticK9> _numbers, really?  that's odd.  Sorry i can't help then.  good luck.
[20:37] <dongbag> thx <astraljava> really appreciate it :)
[20:37] <Snakkah> When using the Epiphany web browser, every time I start it up it brings up an annoying recovery dialogue. How do I disable this? It seems unnecessary when I've just closed the browser with one tab displaying the homepage.
[20:37] <BluesKaj> _numbers, install alsa-base
[20:37] <_numbers> sudo alsa force-reload
[20:38] <_numbers> that worked
[20:38] <_numbers> wohoo
[20:38] <astraljava> dongbag: No prob. Sorry I couldn't be of assistance.
[20:39] <dongbag> thx <astraljava> no worries , u were definitely of good assistance - cheers
[20:39] <glda19> what is the best why  for xp linux a shared profile for thunderbird of two seperated
[20:40] <ZykoticK9> glda19, probably not the best idea.  You could "possibly" rsync them?
[20:40] <ppq> robin0800: thanks, but natty-proposed doesn't contain 2.6.39 - the newest in there is 2.6.38-10
[20:40] <guntbert> glda19: my advice: don't "share", you will corrupt the settings for both
[20:40] <glda19> ZykoticK9, what is the best why
[20:41] <glda19> guntbert, but how can i do it than
[20:41] <ZykoticK9> glda19, i'm worried that the files aren't identical between MS/GNU-Linux - but they might be?
[20:41] <ppq> i guess i have to get the 2.6.39 sources from kernel.org, apply the ubuntu patches and build it by myself. where can i find the ubuntu patches for 2.6.39?
[20:42] <glda19> for tb no problem install on both tb and use the same profile
[20:42] <ZykoticK9> !kernel > ppq
[20:42] <guntbert> glda19: I copied one profile and used that copy in the other system - finally I stopped using windows :-)
[20:42] <ZykoticK9> guntbert, nice answer :) :)
[20:43] <glda19> i have to use also windows guntbert
[20:43] <number9> Hey I use 11.4 on a 1005PE and can't seem to get my built in SD card reader working. Does any one have any ideas?
[20:43] <^Mike> If you have a 32-bit system, how much RAM will it see when you have 4GB? Does 2.8GB sound right?
[20:43] <sarahh> registration at www.gsick.com now open!
[20:43] <guntbert> glda19: ok, but then don't use thunderbird there
[20:43] <ZykoticK9> ^Mike, i thought it was 3.2 but could be wrong
[20:44] <glda19> why  not guntbert
[20:44] <KM0201> ^Mike: it should see all of it, because th einstaller will automatically install the PAE kernel
[20:44] <guntbert> sarahh: what has that to do with ubuntu support?
[20:44] <sarahh> somebody asked me about it here
[20:44] <WhatWhereAmI> hey, I have an http server listening on port 3000 of my local machine and I want it to be accessible from an external server by ssh proxy. I've tried the following: ssh -L 3333:remote-server:3000 remote-server
[20:44] <ZykoticK9> ^Mike, PAE is a "hack", if you have a 64bit CPU consider using 64bit OS
[20:44] <^Mike> KM0201, ZykoticK9: do you know how I can check what type this system is? It's running ubuntu currently
[20:45] <KM0201> ^Mike: what do you mean "what type of system this is"...
[20:45] <ppq> ZykoticK9: well, i've already read that. using the explained methods, i can only get the patched sources for 2.6.38 :(
[20:45] <ZykoticK9> ^Mike, "uname -a" and/or "lsb_release -a" for some info
[20:45] <ZykoticK9> ppq, sorry - i have no idea.
[20:45] <KM0201> ^Mike: what exactly do you want to know, those two commands ZykoticK9 gave you will help w/ some info about the machine
[20:45] <edbian> ^Mike: cat /etc/issue
[20:45] <guntbert> glda19: only from my negative experience: I nearly managed to loose all my stored mail, one side always complained ( ... already running but not responding....), I suspect it has to do with the different paths
[20:46] <^Mike> i686 is 64, right? and i386 is 32
[20:46] <bazhang> ^Mike, no
[20:46] <edbian> ^Mike: i686 is NOT 64bit
[20:46] <ZykoticK9> ^Mike, no x86_64 is 64bit
[20:46] <edbian> ^Mike: amd64 is the technical name for 64bit
[20:46] <number9> Hey I use 11.4 on a 1005PE and can't seem to get my built in SD card reader working. Does any one have any ideas?
[20:46] <tot> ع
[20:46]  * ^Mike furrows his brow confusedly
[20:46] <glda19> guntbert uie tb from version 1 or 2 no problem so far
[20:47] <tot> hi
[20:47] <ZykoticK9> edbian, i'd say the technical name for amd64 is actually x86_64
[20:47] <astraljava> ^Mike: $ uname -m
[20:47] <guntbert> glda19: suit yourself, I told you my experiences :)
[20:47] <astraljava> x86_64
[20:47] <scorchgeek> my hard drive crashed and I had to reinstall ubuntu, and after copying the contents of my home directory back, I get an error starting Nautilus: (nautilus:2916): EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported. Anyone know what config file is at fault so I can replace it? (I already tried sudo apt-get purge nautilus and reinstalling it.)
[20:47] <ZykoticK9> edbian, well - i guess that depends on my mood ;)  I usually say amd64 ;)
[20:47] <BluesKaj> amd is the owner of ati and a cpu mfgr
[20:47] <astraljava> ^Mike: That's 64-bit system architecture.
[20:47] <edbian> ZykoticK9: I've seen both.  I think amd64 is confusing
[20:48] <hackerss7978> hi
[20:48] <tot> how are you
[20:48] <^Mike> astraljava: which is?
[20:49] <guntbert> tot:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:49] <bazhang> tot, ubuntu support question?
[20:49] <guntbert> bazhang: :)
[20:49] <bazhang> hey guntbert :)
[20:49] <astraljava> ^Mike: A few lines above. Like others already said, I just proved on CLI: $ uname -m -> x86_64
[20:50] <readme_pool> buona sera a tutti
[20:54] <n-iCe> how do I prevent a drive to be loaded in the whole system in blacklist.conf ? is that all?
[20:54] <tot> hi
[20:55] <ZykoticK9> n-iCe, drive or driver?
[20:55] <n-iCe> driver
[20:55] <n-iCe> sorry
[20:55] <ZykoticK9> n-iCe, for driver, yes blacklist
[20:56] <n-iCe> it is added as blacklist rtl8187
[20:56] <jgeli> need help, PPP/DSL connection keeps dropping. using Maverick.
[20:56] <n-iCe> but seems it keeps loading
[20:56] <n-iCe> ZykoticK9: [   19.205417] rtl8187: Card reports RF frontend Realtek 8225
[20:56] <n-iCe> in dmesg
[20:57] <ZykoticK9> n-iCe, not sure, but perhaps the driver is built into the kernel?
[20:59] <n-iCe> ZykoticK9: yes it is, it won't stop ot?
[20:59] <ZykoticK9> n-iCe, "lsmod | grep rtl8187" show anything?
[20:59] <n-iCe> no
[20:59] <ZykoticK9> n-iCe, blacklist only stops modules, if it's built into the kernel, i doubt it would have any effect
[20:59] <n-iCe> ZykoticK9: what can I dot to remove it from the kernel?
[20:59] <xil> hi, could I get some help setting up a vnc server on Mint? I know it's not Ubuntu but I can't find a good support community for Mint ATM. I installed tightvnc but I can't find any config files. When I start the server on :1 and connect I just get a gray screen
[20:59] <ZykoticK9> n-iCe, you don't...
[21:00] <ZykoticK9> n-iCe, it's obviously possible - but beyond me... good luck.
 there are a number of tutorials you can find on Google about that
[21:00] <Gunni> for some reason, my, just installed ubuntu server doesn't show tty1 when it starts, and i have to press ctrl+alt+f1 to get it to show up
[21:01] <xil> jdevel: my problem is that all the tutorials I've found presuppose the existance of certain config files, which don't exist
[21:01] <bazhang> !mintsupport | xil
[21:01] <jdevel> are you using X?
[21:01] <n-iCe> ZykoticK9: is the a drive a single file? or whole of folders and files?
[21:01] <xil> jdevel: X and xfce4
[21:01] <glda19> how used ligthning 1.04b
[21:01] <bazhang> xil, MINT is not supported here
[21:01] <ZykoticK9> n-iCe, not sure?
[21:02] <jdevel> you should be able to access config settings through the gui
[21:02] <Duesentrieb> hi all! i'm trying to install ubuntu on my new t420s. i got it to boot from the usb, but the graphic doesn't work. i just see garbage.
[21:02] <ZykoticK9> n-iCe, i imagine that "it depends", but if it's a kernel built-in, then it's not really a file at all (besides the kernel files)
[21:02] <Duesentrieb> can i somehow force a non-gui installer?
[21:02] <xil> jdevel: ah...I'll go look for a gui then, haha. Right now I'm ssh'd into the would-be server doing everything through the terminal
[21:02] <jdevel> xil.. http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/83
[21:03] <Duesentrieb> or manually change the graphics mode the boot image will use?
[21:03] <ZykoticK9> !nomodeset | Duesentrieb try this first - else use alternatecd
[21:03]  * Duesentrieb reads
[21:03] <jdevel> google is your friend
[21:04] <bazhang> xil, did you see the message about MINT not being supported here? please dont continue asking
[21:04] <xil> jdevel: okay I've seen a lot about remote desktop, but I'm trying not to use it. I've read lots that says it's slow and bulky, and I kind of need speed and efficiency in this particular instance
[21:04] <xil> bazhang: yes, but jdevel is helping me, so I figure I'll go with it
[21:04] <ZykoticK9> jdevel, see bazhang's comment above - applies to you as well
[21:04] <korcan> anyone know if there is an emulator (lke x3270) for Unisys UTS protocol?
[21:04] <bazhang> xil, not here. take it to PM if you wish
[21:04] <jdevel> ok ok
[21:04] <jdevel> strict around here
[21:04] <xil> jdevel: it's fine, I'll go with what you've given me, thanks
[21:04] <jdevel> n/p
[21:05] <n-iCe> thanks
[21:05] <tzhuang> I'm having a problem with grub after 11.04 installation. Can anyone help me?
[21:05] <ZykoticK9> !details | tzhuang
[21:05] <jdevel> that's pretty general of a question
[21:06] <tzhuang> Originally I was dualbooting 10.04 with Windows XP (currently using XP)
[21:06] <torm3nted> chillout_cafe
[21:06] <tzhuang> Haven't used Ubuntu for a long time, and the updates were bothering me, so I figure I'd just reinstall 11.04 over top the whole ting
[21:06] <tzhuang> After install/reboot
[21:06] <jdevel> did you repartition everything?
[21:07] <tzhuang> I did
[21:07] <jdevel> so formatted first?
[21:07] <tzhuang> I think so.
[21:07] <jdevel> installation was clean?
[21:07] <tzhuang> errr how do I know if it was clean? not sure what that means
[21:07] <jdevel> or did you get an errors while installing the OS?
[21:07] <tzhuang> no erros
[21:07] <tzhuang> while installing
[21:07] <jdevel> what's the error w/ grub?
[21:08] <tzhuang> at first it was
[21:08] <tzhuang> hang on lemme pull up the first error from search history
[21:08] <bazhang> !enter | tzhuang
[21:08] <froq> So I am looking for a dock/ app launcher to place on my ubuntu, yet I don't want to use compiz.... any direction y'all?  I have looked @ cairo-dock, wasn't a fan...
[21:09] <Duesentrieb> ZykoticK9: looking better, but distorted. i think i can work from there, thanks :)
[21:09] <jdevel> froq, checked out google yet?
[21:09] <bazhang> !google | jdevel
[21:09] <ZykoticK9> Duesentrieb, glad to help.  See if you can install proper drivers (if available)
[21:09] <froq> jdevel, I did... it came back with AWN, Docky, Cairo-dock, SlimDock & one other one (don't remember the name...) the last two match my goal, yet have support and therefore break often...
[21:09] <jdevel> damn, learning fast here
[21:09] <tzhuang> Sorry. Habit from MSN >__> Alright first error was "Error: the symbol 'grub_xputs' not found" followed by the Grub Rescue prompt
[21:10] <bazhang> froq, docky, awn, and others possibly
[21:10] <froq>  bazhang those all require some degree of compiz running however :(
[21:10] <Duesentrieb> ZykoticK9: will do. first, i'll need to add the nomodset stuff after installation again.
[21:10] <bazhang> froq, you using 11.04?
[21:10] <ubun> I need help... KDENLIVE and CINELERRA both crash... what could i do? could this be the programs or something else?
[21:10] <froq> i dislike compiz, it slows down my hardware to much for my desires...
[21:10] <froq> I am running 10.10
[21:10] <ZykoticK9> Duesentrieb, into /etc/default/grub - then run "sudo update-grub2" to apply change
[21:11] <bazhang> froq, okay, I was going to suggest the non-compiz unity-2d for 11.04, but you are using the prior release
[21:11] <Duesentrieb> ZykoticK9: yea, thanks, will figure it out
[21:11] <jdevel> tz: ang> Sorry. Habit from MSN >__> Alright first error was "Error: the symbol 'grub_xputs' not found" followed by the Grub Rescue prompt
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[21:11] <FloodBot1> jdevel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:11] <bazhang> jdevel, ?
[21:11] <froq> bazhang, yeah
[21:11] <tzhuang> jdevel: first error was "Error: the symbol 'grub_xputs' not found" followed by the Grub Rescue prompt
[21:11] <froq> jdevel, what was taht for? lol
[21:12] <jdevel> thought I had a url in my clipboard sorry all
[21:13] <jdevel> tzhuang: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1580752
[21:13] <tzhuang> jdevel: After a quick serach on google, I tried to fix it by loading up the live cd (since I couldnt get any OS on my hdd to boot) and typing the following in a terminal
[21:13] <tzhuang> sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[21:13] <tzhuang> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[21:14] <willichan> I have been googleing around for a couple of days.  Does anyone know where to find instructions for enabling XDMCP on an Ubuntu 11.04 server?  Older instructions don't seem to apply.
[21:14] <tzhuang> jdevel: That was the first one I looked at. Afterwards,I got the error "error: file not found" followed by the grub rescue prompt
[21:17] <ZykoticK9> willichan, i certainly hope you don't use XDMCP over the internet (it's not secure!)
[21:18] <tzhuang> jdevel: After another search, I tried
[21:18] <tzhuang> sudo apt-get install lilo
[21:18] <tzhuang> sudo lilo -M /dev/sda mbr
[21:18] <tzhuang> Which after a reboot, at least let my WinXP boot from harddrive, but had no OS selection after BIOS.
[21:18] <willichan> @ZykoticK9:  No.  Internal only.  We use it heavily on our IBM servers.
[21:18] <WhatWhereAmI> hey, I have an http server listening on port 3000 of my local machine and I want it to be accessible from an external server by ssh proxy. I've tried the following: ssh -L 3333:remote-server:3000 remote-server
[21:19] <tzhuang> Who can I message about a 11.04 install problem? D:
[21:19] <mc_teo`> hello, i need help with something small
[21:19] <mc_teo`> i left my laptop with lid closed for about 1.5 hours
[21:20] <mc_teo`> and the gui seems frozen
[21:20] <mc_teo`> the mouse isnt though
[21:20] <mc_teo`> i can use ctrl+alt+f1 to get a shell
[21:20] <mc_teo`> hence using irssi to come here
[21:21] <mc_teo`> any idea how i could force the gui to restart?
[21:21] <ZykoticK9> mc_teo`, assuming you don't have anything important that needs saving, you could restart Xorg with "sudo service gdm restart"
[21:21] <tzhuang> Looking for some help with regards to 11.04 install problems.
[21:22] <ray9na> Hi. I know how to select a custom icon for a folder, but I don't know where to look. I'm on 10.04
[21:22] <ZykoticK9> mc_teo`, alternatively from Xorg you could use alt+printscreen+k to restart Xorg
[21:22] <mc_teo> so yeah, that worked
[21:22] <mc_teo> but what could of caused the problem?
[21:23] <astraljava> ray9na: /usr/share/icons perhaps?
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> mc_teo, solar flairs (BOFH answer) ;)
[21:24] <ray9na> astraljava: those are good for adding program/app buttons. Do you know where I'd find the folder icons that are used for Documents, Music, Pictures, etc?
[21:25] <ZykoticK9> ray9na, you might want to check /usr/share/pixmaps
[21:26] <ZykoticK9> ray9na, actually i don't see the folders there either...
[21:26] <ray9na> ZykoticK9: i was just there and not finding anything appropriate. I'm looking for folder icons with indicators on them, but all i see are non-folder images
[21:27] <ray9na> I thought I'd go into properties for my Pictures folder and see where its icon comes from, but the directory it took me to was merely the last place I'd been before, not its source :(
[21:27] <n-iCe> what would be the difference between sudo iwconfig wlan1 rate 5.5M auto and sudo iwconfig wlan1 rate 5.5M fixed
[21:29] <gohdan> I installed LXDE and when I turn on transparency for either 'gnome-terminal' or LXDE's 'lxterminal' it shows the purple-ish background from Ubuntu's modified GDM and not my wallpaper. Any ideas where to start trouble shooting this or a possible fix?
[21:30] <VCoolio> ray9na: it's in the icon themes "places" folder
[21:30] <gohdan> It is very annoying
[21:30] <ray9na> VCoolio: I'll look...
[21:30] <VCoolio> ray9na: and the folders it uses are defined in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[21:30] <aga> aga87
[21:30] <willichan> I need to set up XDMCP for some of our Windows users to run applications on the server from their desktops.  They are already set up to do it for our IBM servers, so I don't want to switch to a different method for the Ubuntu server.  Has anyone found a way to set up XDMCP for 11.04 server?
[21:31] <ZykoticK9> willichan, IF you don't get an answer here, you might want to try #ubuntu-server
[21:31] <VCoolio> gohdan: is it true or fake transparancy? if the latter, set root desktop image with esetroot or I forgot what other alternative
[21:32] <willichan> @ZykoticK9:  Thank you.  I will try there.
[21:33] <gohdan> VCoolio: well, "true" transparency is kinda tricky for X and I havent invested that much time in it. so. i am going to assume it is "fake".
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> gohdan: what is the output of:  lsb_release -d
[21:33] <buhman> Pici: question?
[21:34] <gohdan> ActionParsnip: im on maverick so, "Description:	Ubuntu 10.10"
[21:34] <gohdan> not moving to natty until unity is all sorted out properly
[21:34] <VCoolio> gohdan: try xsetroot -solid blueviolet      just to check if it's fake transparancy
[21:35] <gohdan> VCoolio: let me log into the other DE
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> gohdan: you can log into Ubuntu Classic desktop and it will look like the Maverick desktop you use now
[21:35] <KM0201> gohdan: well, unity isn't ever gonna get all "sorted out"...
[21:35] <gohdan> KM0201:  :3
[21:36] <tobi__> which is what the command to the kernel's
[21:36] <KM0201> gohdan: embrace the change now... cuz after 11.10, comes gnome 3, which is likely to be a similar train wreck as unity.
[21:36] <tobi__> which is what the command to the kernel's
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> tobi__: that's not a full question
[21:36] <KM0201> gohdan: we honestly may see some pretty crappy Ubuntu's until 12.04, or maybe even 12.10
[21:36] <bazhang> tobi__, to load kernel modules?
[21:37] <bazhang> tobi__, otherwise that question makes no sense
[21:37] <gohdan> KM0201: at which point i shall learn the joy of xfce, LXDE and the myriad of other WMs
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> gohdan: or you can use LXDE and unity won't load by default
[21:37] <Daekdroom> KM0201, Gnome3 is being included in 11.10
[21:37] <tobi__> yes
[21:37] <semitones> hey I'm trying to find the noise level of my wireless network -- wavemon says to press F1, but if I do, gnome terminal help comes up. What should I do to press F1 in the terminal
[21:37] <KM0201> gohdan: http://www.lubuntu.net  :) (it becomes an official canonical release in November w/ 11.10... embrace the horror)
[21:37] <gohdan> but anyway.... hang on and let me boot into LXDE
[21:37] <KM0201> Daekdroom: i know, thats what i said.
[21:37] <bazhang> tobi__, you mean uname -a  ?
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> tobi__: to load kernel modules run:  sudo modprobe modulename
[21:38] <Daekdroom> KM0201, You said "after", I read it as "in the release after"
[21:38] <tobi__> ok thx
[21:38] <tobi__> sorr
[21:38] <semitones>  how do you press F1 within terminal/
[21:38] <DartmanX> I keep getting the Errno5 when trying to install from a USB stick. Apparently, it's related to my bad dvd drive. Do you think it would go away if I yanked out the bad drive entirely?
[21:38] <KM0201> no, what i mean is.. by the time 11.10 comes out, unity is probably still gonna be reasonably crappy, then we're gonna be dealing w/ gnome 3 issues.
[21:38] <tobi__> I forgot
[21:38] <ray9na> Well, thanks guys. It's not an important issue and I'm not getting anywhere, so I'll try again later.
[21:40] <Duesentrieb> hm, the installer aborts saying it couldn't configre apt to install mroe packages from the cd. which is probably true, because tehre is no cd, there's a usb stick.
[21:40] <Duesentrieb> how do i work around that??
[21:40] <sktn07> would any one tell me : is there any software like photoshop of windows?
[21:40] <corrytonapple> GIMP
[21:40] <corrytonapple> sktn07:  Gimp is what photoshop is actually based on
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: did you MD5 test the ISO you put on the stick?
[21:41] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: nope. probably should have, i guess :)
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: yep
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> !hashes | Duesentrieb
[21:41] <Duesentrieb> hm... would be nice if usb-creator asked for that or better, just did that
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> corrytonapple: got a link to back that up? Not heard that before
[21:42] <corrytonapple> Yeah, one minute.
[21:42] <Duesentrieb> well, gives me an opportunity to see if windows still comes up after resizing the partition :)
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> corrytonapple: very curious and interested :)
[21:42] <corrytonapple> ActionParsnip, here it is:   http://www.gimp.org/
[21:42] <Shaba1> sktn07: and if Gimp's interfact puts you off there is a version called Gimpshop that use the same menu and dialogs that photoshop does
[21:42] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: you don't think it has a problem finding the correct device for the usb key (or rather, the mount point of the iso)?
[21:42] <corrytonapple> It is available in the Ubuntu Software Center
[21:42] <Shaba1> but you cannot run the two version on the same machind
[21:43] <KujaxSword-> i'm trying to run a program in a chroot but keep getting this while inside the program...  http://pastebin.com/006F7Rye
[21:43] <extraclassic> in 2.7 they finally added a single window mode
[21:43] <KujaxSword-> what should I do?
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, Photoshot is certainly NOT based on The Gimp - would be a GPL violation if it was.  corrytonapple
[21:43] <KM0201> yeah, doesn't seem likely
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: if the file is bad then any attempts to resolve will be for nought as the data is bad
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: indeed
[21:44] <scb> Why would that be a GPL violation exactly?
[21:44] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: well, it *booted* fine from the stick. and ran the partition editor. and started the rest of the setup.
[21:44] <Duesentrieb> if just bailed out when "trying to install more packages"
[21:44] <ZykoticK9> scb, no source code for PhotoShop
[21:44] <Duesentrieb> and it didn't set up grub
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: doesn't matter, the data to boot may be fine but the rest could have errors
[21:44] <scb> ZykoticK9: GPL doesn't require you to release code.
[21:45] <corrytonapple> ZykoticK9:  That is what I was told
[21:45] <sktn07> corrytonapple, except  GIMP is there any other software?
[21:45] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: yea, i *am* checking the md5 now, of course
[21:45] <ZykoticK9> scb, actually that IS a requirement
[21:45] <ZykoticK9> corrytonapple, you where told something incorrect
[21:45] <corrytonapple> Not that I know of.  take a look in the Ubuntu software center.
[21:45] <extraclassic> sktn07: krita is one
[21:45] <corrytonapple> ZykoticK9, thanks for clearing that up for me
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> corrytonapple: Photoshop was first released in 1990, Gimp only surfaced in 1996
[21:46] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: the checksum is fine.
[21:46] <Duesentrieb> any other ideas?
[21:46] <KujaxSword-> I keep getting an error in my chroot while trying to run a program... here's the output http://pastebin.com/006F7Rye. Anyone know what's up?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: cool, then I'd test RAM using the USB stick so you know all is good
[21:47] <lasha> hey guys i got emergency
[21:47] <lasha> grub rescue :(
[21:47] <Corey> lasha: Okay, then ask your question?
[21:47] <Corey> !rescue | lasha
[21:47] <lasha> i am on different computer right now. it says GRUB loading.
[21:48] <lasha> Welcomg to Grub
[21:48]  * sktn07 corrytonapple,thanks:)
[21:48] <corrytonapple> Corey, isn't that kinda old?
[21:48] <ZykoticK9> KujaxSword-, "cannot find card '0' " is certainly the issue - but i don't really "know" what that means, other then it's looking for an audio card name 0 - which is unlikely
[21:48] <lasha> error" no such device: some code...
[21:48] <corrytonapple> You are welcome sktn07!  :)
[21:48] <Corey> lasha: "Some code" would be what?
[21:48] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: you mean run memtest for a few hours? seriously?
[21:48] <lasha> Entering rescue mode... grub resque>
[21:48] <Duesentrieb> well, i guess it'S a good idea anyway for a new box...
[21:48] <corrytonapple> lasha:  Sounds like it cannot see your HDDs
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: no just let a few of the tests run
[21:48] <meera> does anybody know if there is a possibility to conect a hexaglot scan translator on pc for repair pixeland programm errors?
[21:48] <lasha> ye i just formatted the partitian with mint
[21:49] <KujaxSword-> ZykoticK9, hmm
[21:49] <lasha> but grub should be on my other ssd too
[21:49] <Corey> lasha: We unfortunately don't support Mint here. :-/
[21:49] <corrytonapple> I know.  Boot up your live CD and you should be able to run (I am not positive) but you need to reload grub
[21:49] <callaghan> Hi, I have a strange issue: When I watch a video on youtube and close Firefox, the last image of the flash video is somehow stored. When I open a video file afterwards, everywhere the video should be completely black the flash image shines through. Also when viewing PDF's and the text should be black. This makes it very hard to read. After a reboot, the image has disappeared. Is there a way...
[21:49] <callaghan> ...to get rid of it without rebooting? (Ubuntu 10.10, btw) Thanks
[21:49] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: interesting. it says the ram has 0 mhz. and is noding nothing.
[21:49] <lasha> Corey I got ubuntu 10.10 and windows 7 left so :D
[21:49] <KujaxSword-> Zykotick9, is there anything i can do to figure that out?
[21:49] <Duesentrieb> *doing even
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> KujaxSword-, i'm sure there is - but i'm not aware of it ;)  Best of luck.
[21:50] <corrytonapple> callaghan:  Sounds like screen burn in.  Is it like that in any other OS?
[21:50] <Duesentrieb> looks like memtest doesn't like the hardware
[21:50] <corrytonapple> Do you have a CRT monitor
[21:50] <Duesentrieb> thinkpad t420s
[21:50] <Duesentrieb> it's actually frozen. can't get out of memtest
[21:50] <lasha> i prolly just need to update grub so how do i do that, something like sudo update grub 2?
[21:50] <corrytonapple> sudo update grub
[21:50] <lasha> i just dont know exact syntax
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: interesting stuff huh, do you have multiple RAM sticks?
[21:50] <corrytonapple> I think
[21:50] <callaghan> corrytonapple: It was not in 10.04, wait, I'll upload a picture (cause in screenshot everything looks ok)
[21:51] <corrytonapple> Why a screenshot then?
[21:51] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: hm, i'm not sure, but i think it has 2x3GB
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> lasha: sudo apt-get install grub2-common
[21:51] <lasha> ActionParsnip: thank u :)
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: try removing a stick then retest (as long as you don't damage any warranties)
[21:51] <Duesentrieb> (i *am* sure it'S 6gb total)
[21:51] <BrianOfTacoma> What is the best way to sync music on my Ubuntu computer with music on my Android phone?
[21:52] <ZykoticK9> lasha, "sudo update-grub2" is the command
[21:52] <Corey> BrianOfTacoma: rsync, generally.
[21:52] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: not going to open the box. company computer, with warranty and stuff.
[21:52] <BrianOfTacoma> is it in Synaptic?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: yeah I always add that :)
[21:52] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: i could try to break windows, blame it on the ram and have an engineer visit me at home tomorrow ;)
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> BrianOfTacoma: could use ubuntu one
[21:52] <lasha> ok i ll switch to other compy now with live usb
[21:53] <zakary> cheese
[21:53] <BrianOfTacoma> I am not looking for streaming ... I just want the files to be the same when I update computer
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: are you using 64bit Ubuntu or 32bit Ubuntu?
[21:53] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: 32bit
[21:53] <BrianOfTacoma> ...and subsequently connect the phone
[21:53] <Duesentrieb> vanilla i386 desktop
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: hmm, try 64bit, It will see your RAM as one block
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: 32bit will need PAE to hit all the RAM
[21:53] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: ok, worth a try
[21:53] <sktn07> corrytonapple, go to link http://imagebin.org/161603
[21:53]  * Duesentrieb goes to download
[21:54] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help
[21:55] <DartmanX> I'm currently running fedora, but I want to make a liveusb flash drive to install ubuntu. How do I do this? (Obviously, I need the LiveCD image)
[21:55] <sktn07> please go http://imagebin.org/161603 make me out from problem
[21:55] <callaghan> corrytonapple: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/20110705154020.jpg/ That's what it looks like. The youtube picture should not be there. If I take a screenshot, it is not there.... any ideas?
[21:56] <mahir256> DartmanX: https://launchpad.net/usb-creator
[21:56] <astraljava> DartmanX: Would unetbootin work in fedora?
[21:56] <corrytonapple> sktn07:  What is that about?
[21:57] <sktn07> what to do to fix chess in 3d mode?
[21:57] <DartmanX> astraljava: apparently not
[21:57] <corrytonapple> Oh wow callaghan.  That comes through well
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> sktn07: do you use compiz / effects etc?
[21:58] <corrytonapple> IDK about how to help with that.  It seems like a bug maybe.
[21:58] <sktn07> what that are?
[21:58] <ZykoticK9> sktn07, i'd try installing both python-opengl & python-gtkglext1
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> sktn07: the effects on the desktop like cube desktop, wobbly windows etc. Do you use Unity?
[21:58] <lasha> hey guys i am back
[21:59] <sktn07> no
[21:59] <callaghan> corrytonapple: I guess it's just the flash plugin screwing things up as usual... Thanks for taking a look :)
[21:59] <lasha> cant just use update grub command
[21:59] <corrytonapple> sktn07:  Open a terminal and type:  sudo apt-get install python-opengl && python-gtklext`
[21:59] <lasha> i think i need to mount device i need to install it on
[21:59] <corrytonapple> there is a one at the end of that....
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> sktn07: you need 3D accelleration to get 3D chess. What is the output of:  lsb_release -d; lspci | grep -i vga
[21:59] <corrytonapple> callaghan, You are Welcome.  Flash is buggy, especially in 64-bit
[21:59] <ZykoticK9> corrytonapple, you install command is incorrect.  sktn07
[22:00] <lasha> ActionParsnip: i am the grub rescue problem guy from 3 mins ago :D
[22:00] <corrytonapple> I know.... I messed up.  Trying to think too much
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> callaghan: you can use 64bit flash in 64bit Ubuntu, it's not buggy at allcall
[22:00] <ZykoticK9> corrytonapple, no && for sure!
[22:00] <sktn07> output is: Description:	Ubuntu 9.10
[22:00] <corrytonapple> sudo apt-get install python-opengl python-gtklext1
[22:00] <jay_pro> what method(s) do you guys use to backup your data? (one of my harddrives crashed, so basically my data is gone!)
[22:00] <sktn07> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Pineview Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[22:01] <jay_pro> or software
[22:01] <corrytonapple> That is it.  Sorry, I was doing my own work on this computer.  I was putting one and another together
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> callaghan: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> sktn07: karmic support is dead
[22:01] <lasha> so does anyone know how to install grub on hard drive with live session ?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> !backup | jay_pro
[22:01] <astraljava> DartmanX: Well what about what mahir256 suggested, usb-creator?
[22:01] <corrytonapple> lasha:   There is a way to do it.  It is somehwere off of google
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> lasha: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[22:02] <jay_pro> ahh okay thanks ActionParsnip
[22:02] <lasha> ok thank u guys i ll try it out
[22:02] <jay_pro> !sbackup
[22:02] <corrytonapple> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275     lasha    it is #13
[22:03] <sktn07> purple i can't get u?
[22:03] <corrytonapple> But make sure you use the same CD you installed with
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> !9.10 | sktn07
[22:03] <corrytonapple> or better
[22:03] <jay_pro> !cloning
[22:03] <callaghan> ActionParsnip: I'm on 32 bit, there you go: http://pastebin.com/acVQCLCA
[22:03] <sktn07> yes
[22:04] <KM0201> callaghan: so whats your question?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> sktn07: your release has no support anywhere, including here.Please upgrade to at least Lucid
[22:05] <sktn07> corrytonapple, yet not working
[22:05] <corrytonapple> Do you have a reason for staying back on 9.10 sktn07?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> callaghan: all I can suggest is:  sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer ; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:06] <sktn07> slow net connection
[22:06] <corrytonapple> In 10.04, 10.10, or 11.04?
[22:06] <corrytonapple> Oh, nvmd
[22:07] <lasha> ActionParsnip: i think i installed it but how do i update it so it sees the list of OSes on machine ?
[22:07] <corrytonapple> You can get a CD from them to upgrade.....
[22:07] <callaghan> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll try this right now
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> lasha: OSes? you could grep /boot/grub/grub.cfg   I guess
[22:07] <sktn07> define "them"
[22:07] <lasha> ActionParsnip: hmm ok will try :P
[22:07] <lasha> thx
[22:08] <mathAgentine> hello
[22:08] <callaghan> KM0201: I posted it some time ago, but I've got advice already :)
[22:08] <sktn07> corrytonapple, define "them"
[22:09] <gohdan> sktn07: "them" is the "they" that are always out to get you
[22:09] <Diverdude1> It happens quite often when i have either chrome or firefox running that when i switch between windows (i usually have many windows and programs open, but it alwas happens when FF or chrome is open), that the system completely locks. The only thing i can do is move the mouse around. keyboard is disabled and i cannot click anything. The only way to solve it is to cut the power and loose all changes. This is very annoying, and actually happ
[22:09] <Diverdude1> ens quite often. How can i find out what goes wrong so that i may solve it?
[22:09] <corrytonapple> sktn07, sorry.  I mean the Ubuntu site
[22:09] <Diverdude1> And also why are newly opened windows not in focus?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude1: does it happen as all users?
[22:09] <mathAgentine> I've just decompresed a program form a taz.bz2 file within the download directory before install it would be better move it to anohter directory
[22:10] <mathAgentine> to be organized
[22:10] <Diverdude1> ActionParsnip, hmm im not sure, i only have 1 user running, which is me
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude1: make another to test
[22:11] <daniel> what os do you use?
[22:11] <gohdan> so, i tried VCoolio's tip on "xsetroot" (guess after he bailed) and it accomplishes nothing
[22:11] <Diverdude1> ActionParsnip, what if it happens to all users?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude1: then its the app, not the settings you have
[22:12] <mathAgentine> daniel do you talk to me?
[22:12] <sktn07> corrytonapple, one  and last question : i have downloaded firfox-5.0.tar.bz2...how to install it?
[22:12] <daniel> public message
[22:12] <daniel> i want to know the most common os
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> daniel: that is offtopic here
[22:12] <gohdan> maybe i should set the gdm graphic as my wallpaper? that should sort everything out. :>
[22:12] <mathAgentine> ubuntu 10.10 Lynx
[22:12] <astraljava> daniel: #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> gohdan: sounds like a plan :)
[22:13] <Diverdude1> ActionParsnip, and the window focus problem?
[22:13] <daniel> okok im sorry
[22:13] <corrytonapple> sktn07, You extract it to wherever you want.  Then, there should be an install script
[22:13] <mathAgentine> can someone help me?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude1: any problems at all
[22:13] <corrytonapple> When it pops up, just click run.
[22:13]  * gohdan gets to work creating a pink theme to match
[22:13] <mahir256> mathAgentine: perhaps to be organized, but there is no specific reason to; unless you've done this same procedure before, you're fine
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> sktn07: copy the extracted folder to /opt and then symlink the firefox binary to /usr/bin
[22:14] <callaghan> ActionParsnip: lol that did it, thank you! What's the difference between flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree?
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> callaghan: flashplugin-nonfree just installs the package you already had, not sure. Flash is a weird creature
[22:15] <mathAgentine> mahir256:  so I can create a directory to put the files I'm download in the future?
[22:15] <sktn07> i am newbie ...would tell clearly?
[22:16] <callaghan> ActionParsnip: o_O indeed it is.... Thank you for your help.
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> sktn07: copy the file you downloaded to /opt   the extract it with:  sudo tar jxvf firfox-5.0.tar.bz2
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> sktn07: you will extract the browser and you can look in the foilder, you will see a binary which you would run to launch the browser, if you symlink the file to /usr/bin/firefox5    or something like that, it will be easier to run
[22:17] <mahir256> mathAgentine: you _can_, but i would advise not for an installer; you should do this for other documents, pictures, videos
[22:18] <Diverdude1> why on earth did the ubuntu people set focus prevention in compiz settings to low instead of off as default....I really have a hard time understanding the ubuntu teams prioritations sometimes...that fixed the focus problem
[22:18] <mathAgentine> mahir256:  thanks
[22:18] <corrytonapple> how do I make my GNOME panel font color white?  I have tried in appearance.  Do I have to make the gtkrc.2.0?
[22:18] <Diverdude1> as if people open new windows for not interacting with the new window
[22:19] <sktn07> how to copy that...its not coping to /opt
[22:19] <corrytonapple> you will need to make sure you are using sudo sktn07
[22:20] <sktn07> sure
[22:20] <telnet> ?
[22:20] <mathAgentine> byeeeeee
[22:20] <corrytonapple> Bye!~
[22:20] <corrytonapple> I am still here though.
[22:22] <lasha> hey guys i couldnt fix the grub thing :(
[22:22] <corrytonapple> lasha:  What went wrong?
[22:22] <lasha> is grub 2  grub-pc ?
[22:22] <ventas114> kca}
[22:22] <corrytonapple> You could say so lasha
[22:23] <ventas114> i couldnt say so
[22:23] <rrh> hi
[22:23] <lasha> corrytonapple: it said error: file not found at bootup
[22:23] <wildbat> lasha: reinstall grub
[22:23] <corrytonapple> What version of Ubuntu do yo uhave installed?
[22:23] <corrytonapple> wildbat, we have done that
[22:23] <sktn07> purple, what do you mean by binary and symlink?
[22:23] <corrytonapple> What Live CD you do yo have?
[22:23] <wildbat> oh
[22:24] <lasha> i think i have to redo
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> sktn07: binary is a program you run
[22:24] <lasha> i ll redo whole thing but that tutorial was confusing
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> sktn07: symlink is like a windows shortcut but far more powerful
[22:24] <corrytonapple> He is normally pretty good lasha.
[22:24] <corrytonapple> But first
[22:24] <lasha> i just need to install grub on /dev/sda1
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> lasha: I gave the how to
[22:24] <corrytonapple> What is your version of Ubuntu and the version of your Live CD used?
[22:24] <sktn07> is that firfox-bin?
[22:24] <lasha> ActionParsnip: followed but i got some fails on the way so could only do partial installations
[22:25] <lasha> ActionParsnip: and i think it was grub 1 tutorial not grub 2 :S
[22:25] <corrytonapple> Your Live CD has to be at least as new or newer than your ubuntu version
[22:25] <sktn07> purple,is that firfox-bin?
[22:25] <rcmaehl> Hey guys. I only have 1 joystick which is showing up as js1. whould it be okay to rm js0 and rename js1 to js0. that should make my joystick work right?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> lasha: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7   read the TOP line, also read the URL
[22:26] <rrh> does anybody know, how do i create a hidden rescue partition, which a notebook can be reinstalled from, please ? i am not able a find a proper (how to) webpage about this topic.
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> sktn07: yes
[22:26] <_asdf_> hey guys i cant install the radeon driver
[22:26] <lasha> ActionParsnip: hmm ok i ll try redo thanks :)
[22:26] <gohdan> !tell rrh about backups
[22:27] <_asdf_> guys does someone know whats going wrong when i wanna install the raedont driver? here => http://paste.debian.net/122007/
[22:28] <KM0201> hmm, never saw that
[22:28] <KM0201> !tell KM0201 about backups
[22:28] <Ibyss> What's the command to combine log files?
[22:28] <_asdf_> guys does someone know whats going wrong when i wanna install the raedont driver? here => http://paste.debian.net/122007/
[22:29] <sktn07> purple, its giving permission denied...what to do?
[22:29] <mathAgentine> the read file tells me that I should use ./seamonkey within the seamonkey directory but it don't works
[22:29] <gohdan> rrh: i normally just zero the drives freespace so it compresses easier then i roll a tar.gz of '/' and '/home'
[22:29] <_asdf_> SystemError: E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[22:29] <_asdf_> what does it mean????
[22:30] <astraljava> _asdf_: please pastebin your sources.list, cause my natty shows a lower version for fgrlx
[22:30] <kbrosnan> mathAgentine: fairly sure it is ~/.mozilla/seamonkey there is a #seamonkey on irc.mozilla.org
[22:31] <sktn07> purple, its giving permission denied...what to do?
[22:31] <timClicks> is there any documentation for running a dual boot ubuntu without impacting on a recovery partition?
[22:32] <timClicks> i tried it with my last PC, but broke things
[22:32] <lasha> ActionParsnip: mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc gives error :\
[22:32] <mathAgentine> kbrosnan:  yes but ./ preceds many commands and iḿ not sure about what generates the problem
[22:32] <lasha> ActionParsnip: says mount point /mnt/proc doesnt exist
[22:32] <mathAgentine> if ubuntu configuration or seamonkey program
[22:32] <m4dc0d3r> would it be alright to talk about an indie game for ubuntu on this channel?
[22:33] <m4dc0d3r> ##linux kicked me...
[22:33] <astraljava> mathAgentine: that's ~/. not ./, big difference
[22:33] <xangua> !dualboot | timClicks
 http://paste.debian.net/122009/
[22:33] <gohdan> I installed LXDE and when I turn on transparency for either 'gnome-terminal' or LXDE's 'lxterminal' it shows the purple-ish pink background from Ubuntu's modified GDM and not my desktop wallpaper. Any ideas where to start trouble shooting this or a possible fix?
[22:33] <mathAgentine> astraljava:  yes big so the read file is wrong this time
[22:34] <timClicks> xangua: ty
[22:34] <mathAgentine> astraljava: thanks I'll try your sugesstion
 i was trieing to get the newest version of the 3d driver thats working
[22:34] <m4dc0d3r> well, i am working on an open world game in the spirit (not a clone) of minecraft. i am making a game as good as minecraft could have been. join #rekomencia if you want more info. its too noisy here.
 i do not realy care if propertary or open source as long as i can play HON
[22:36] <astraljava> _asdf_: Don't understand where that is coming from, can you pastebin `apt-cache policy fglrx`, please?
[22:36] <lasha> doesnt anyone know how to update grub from live usb on the partition where grub is ?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> lasha: make the folder then
[22:36] <KM0201> lasha: did you read the grub wiki?
[22:37] <lasha> hmm ok i ll try that too sek
[22:37] <mathAgentine> astraljava:  ~/. doesn't works either could be a permission thing?
[22:38] <_asdf_> http://paste.debian.net/122010/  it may help to know it happend when i added https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates to my sources
[22:38] <_asdf_> http://paste.debian.net/122010/  it may help to know it happend when i added https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates to my sources <astraljava>
[22:38] <astraljava> mathAgentine: I merely pointed out an error in your logic, didn't mean that as a directive. Sorry if I was confusing. Please read again kbrosnan's advice.
[22:39] <mathAgentine> astraljava:  ok thanks
[22:39] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, just unplug the joystick, wait a few moments, then plug it back in - hopefully it will be js0 then
[22:39] <mosnaldo> hallo
 if you need more informations just ask
[22:40] <rrh> gohdan: than you for the tips. but these seem to be all backup sollutions. (i am going to need them aswell:) but what i am looking for now, is a "how to create" a hidden "installation/rescue" partition (out of the installation cd/dvd probably), which a notebook can be reinstalled from.
[22:41] <rcmaehl> ZykoticK9: tried that
[22:41] <ventas114> hola
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, when you unplug the joystick do you still see js0?
[22:42] <ventas114> quien es mexicano?
[22:42] <rcmaehl> yep
[22:42] <ventas114> girngito ...
 am i hopeless? ='(
[22:42] <astraljava> _asdf_: Yes, it might. :) That's a PPA, which don't have official support. As they mention at their page, feel free to file bugs against their packages, but do mention where they are coming from.
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, then something else on your system is a joystick?  any ideas what it could be?
[22:42] <rcmaehl> nothing
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> !es | ventas114
[22:42] <rcmaehl> ZykoticK9: the file never changes
[22:42] <drew212> How do you open a new window in unity?
[22:42] <mathAgentine> astraljava:  a last question Do you know where can I ask about /. and ~/. commands?
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, after a reboot, do you have js0 (without joystick plugged in)?
[22:43] <rcmaehl> idk
[22:43] <mathAgentine> hola ventas114
[22:43] <astraljava> _asdf_: What you got there is a dependency problem. They haven't provided a matching mesa-glx library for that driver version, so currently that won't work.
[22:43] <rrh> gohdan: just like in the ibm/hp notebooks, which do not come with installation cd's by default purchase, because the installation package is already on the notebooks hdd. i would like to know, how to create such installation packate/partition on the harddisk.
[22:44] <claviusmond> will this work in 11.04? https://launchpad.net/~scrawl/+archive/ppa
 you know how i get the old one back? =(
[22:44] <astraljava> mathAgentine: ~/. isn't a command. Tilde (~) points to your $HOME, and the dot (.) after the slash (/) means this is a hidden file or directory.
 you know how i get the old one back or how i can get a working driver?
[22:45] <ZykoticK9> mathAgentine, just to confuse you more - ./ means in the present directory ;)
[22:45] <astraljava> _asdf_: ppa-purge will remove that PPA. It's all on that PPA's front page, please use it for reference.
[22:45] <drew212> Is there a way to open multiple windows with unity?
[22:46] <astraljava> claviusmond: PPAs get no official support. If it says on there that they provide packages for natty, it _might_ work, but there's no-one guaranteeing that.
[22:47] <claviusmond> ok astraljava
[22:49] <Craig`> Hey guys, I was wanting to know if a sub-hostname was possible (ie having the hostname server for 192.168.0.x) and then accessing your preferred bittorrent application by torrent.server - from googling it appears not, what would be some ways around this? or perhaps torrent 192.168.0.x:port would suffice?
[22:50] <gohdan> rrh: i guess you could write the contents of the iso to a partition. not really familiar with how those machines handle the windows recovery schema since i havent used windows since win2k.
[22:52] <gohdan> rrh: back then, you actually got a physical copy of the os you paid a license for
[22:52] <drew212> middle mouse click fixed my problem...
[22:53] <Ibyss> Why three flood bots? Each with a special task?
[22:53] <gohdan> Ibyss: incase one is a lil slow or busy i assume
[22:57] <soziety> hello, I'm trying to execute a code from code of network manager, and one of order is zenity and don't run, in the Desktop run, but from the other aplication of system don't run, it is in xubuntu, network manager, I am modifyng the file /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d
[22:57] <soziety> (sorry my english)
[23:02] <gohdan> soziety: spreek je duits?
[23:02] <soziety> no, spain
[23:02] <Python> Hi
[23:03] <soziety> spanish xD
[23:03] <Python> I want to configure proxy for rekonq but it keeps changing it to http://locahost instead of localhost
[23:03] <rrh> gohdan: this notebook, hp mini 5101, was sold "without an operating system", and came with SUSE SLED preinstalled (factory/hp default). the system now got old and is unsupported. yast offers a system update, but not an update of the installation partition. so i would like to replace that with ubuntu and i am looking for some general "how to's". because i do know, how to proceed properly. i do not have the notebook here, right know. but i think i was not able to mou
[23:04] <Python> :)
[23:04] <kubnub> after you python
[23:04] <gohdan> soziety: sorry about that. whois $ip showed about three different countries :3
[23:04] <Python> kubnub: lol already asked :)
[23:05] <_asdf_> astraljava> i uninstalled it... same message... still cant istall the driver...
[23:05] <Lasivian> heya, anyone happen to know the tar option to not have it save the full file paths?
[23:05] <soziety> my ip?
[23:05] <soziety> my ip? gohdan
[23:05] <kubnub> I did a fresh install about a week ago and when I boot now I get past the bios but no further
 it happened about a month ago also and I just reinstalled
 I don't want to reinstall again if I can
[23:05] <gohdan> !es | soziety
[23:06] <kubnub> I can not connect through network
[23:06] <soziety> thanks a lot
[23:06] <kubnub>  I tried the live usb
[23:06] <kubnub>  to check disk and there were no errors
[23:06] <kidslax> Hello!!
[23:06] <kubnub>  using the live cd interface I chose to boot from 1st ard disk but after a few seconds it just returned me to the same screen
[23:07] <kubnub>  if I were to mount the harddrive from the live cd I wouldn't know where to start checking for problems
[23:07] <kidslax> kubnub you prefer use ubuntu or windows?
[23:07] <gohdan> soziety: correct. i did a lookup to try and find what your native language was. but you can never really tell location with the internets
[23:07] <kubnub>  before I first rebooted and found this problem: I was streaming a tennis match and the video went down, just the video the rest of the page was updating..., I just decided to reboot...First time I rebooted I got to the kdm login, logged in but only go t a blank screen after that
 rebooted again and never got kdm
 i did this => http://paste.debian.net/122023/  but i still cant install any working driver... same error
[23:08] <kubnub> no tty1 either
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> _asdf_: you already added the ppa in sources.list
[23:08] <__sephiroth> supposedly i have a bad gfx driver in my chroot... how do I fix that?
[23:09] <Python> I want to configure proxy for rekonq but it keeps changing it to http://locahost instead of localhost anyone know how to fix that ?
[23:09] <_asdf_> ActionParsnip but i dont want it! i wanna delite it and undo everything it has done! i hate it ><
, I am always with the same ip :S
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> _asdf_: then remove it from sources.list
[23:10] <_asdf_> ActionParsnip it is not active but i still cant install the 3d driver for some reason...
[23:11] <_asdf_> ActionParsnip  here => http://paste.debian.net/122007/ dosent work -.-
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> _asdf_: itsstiff referencing xorg edgers,did you run:   sudo apt-get update
[23:13] <_asdf_> ActionParsnip  yes
[23:13] <lasha> hey guys i still have a desperation situation
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> _asdf_: was it smooth?
[23:14] <_asdf_> http://paste.debian.net/122025/
[23:14] <_asdf_> ActionParsnip  here it is http://paste.debian.net/122025/
[23:16] <ChogyDan> _asdf_: try apt-cache policy fglrx
[23:18] <n-iCe> lot of forums and sites over the internet tell me to set my wireless interface to rate 5.5M fixed, but seems this slow all, but at least I can surf the web, what can I do to solve it?
[23:19] <lasha> guys
[23:19] <lasha> i am getting into a strange grub rescue
[23:19] <lasha> it doesnt recognize Any command
[23:20] <lasha> and i tried to install over and over again from live usb but still
[23:20] <gohdan> Python: have you tried setting the entry manually in the configuration file or only the gui?
[23:20] <Python> gohdan: gui
[23:21] <gohdan> Python: try the conf.
[23:21] <Python> how
[23:21] <bluezone> lasha,  you may need to be more specific
[23:22] <lasha> bluezone: basically i can install grub from live but cant update and make it find the OSes i have on machine
[23:22] <lasha> bluezone: i tried 3 different how tos
[23:23] <gohdan> Python: ~/.kde4/share/config/rekonqrc
[23:23] <Python> ok i'll try thanks gohdan
[23:23] <bluezone> what are the osses on your computer?
[23:23] <bluezone> windows/ubuntu?
[23:23] <bluezone> oss'
[23:24] <bastidrazor> OSes
[23:24] <bluezone> good point
[23:24] <bluezone> i knew it was something along those lines :)
[23:25] <gohdan> Python: might want to grep some strings like proxy or localhost etc
[23:26] <Polarina> I seem to be having problems with Unity in which the left bar seems to be unwilling to disappear when windows go behind it or are maximized. What can I do?
[23:26] <KM0201> !info git
[23:29] <justakill> hey
[23:29] <Aer> HI
[23:29] <justakill> i'm having problems reading my dvd
[23:29] <justakill> ?
[23:29] <justakill> anyone can help?
[23:29] <Aer> I was wondering if anyone could give me a hand, Im trying to find a away to convert my audio files to .MPC format
[23:29] <Aer> but im not having much luck in finding a program in ubuntu which allows me to convert audio to MPC format :(
[23:30] <KM0201> justakill: an install DVD, or a movie DVD?
[23:30] <Aer> does anyone know a good way to convert Audio files to .mpc ?
[23:30] <justakill> movie dvd
[23:31] <KM0201> justakill: whats wrong?
[23:31] <justakill> i put it in and it just seems to turn eternally
[23:31] <bluezone> nothign shows up on the desktop?
[23:31] <justakill> i can't read it with VLC or movieplayer
[23:31] <xangua> !dvd | justakill
[23:31] <KM0201> if the disk doesn't show on th edesktop, sounds like its not mounting
[23:31] <xangua> !medibuntu
[23:31] <xangua> you can also instal libdvdcs2 from medibuntu justakill
[23:32] <Polarina> I seem to be having problems with Unity in which the left bar seems to be unwilling to disappear when windows go behind it or are maximized. What can I do?
[23:32] <KM0201> xangua: you don't need medibuntu to install libdvdcss2, and besides that, it doesn't sound like thats his prob... his DVD isn't mounting
[23:32] <bluezone> Polarina, put your mouse on the left side of the screen?
[23:32] <OerHeks> .. even with ccs2 script, some dvd will not play
[23:32] <Polarina> bluezone: It won't disappear.
[23:32] <KM0201> OerHeks: very true.
[23:32] <justakill> how can i get it to mount?
[23:32] <Renich> hello guys
[23:33] <justakill> other cd's work
[23:33] <Renich> I need help restoring system-wide permissions
[23:33] <justakill> music works
[23:33] <KM0201> justakill: well, the fact it won't mount, suggests there's something wrong w/ the drive, or something wrong w/ the disk...
[23:33] <bluezone> Polarina, sorry, i read that wrong, don't have my glasses lol
[23:33] <Aer> Anyone here know a way I can convert audio files to MPC such, as Wav, Flac etc to mpc ?
[23:33] <Renich> I don't know why, find . -type d thought . and .. would be good choices for directories
[23:33] <Aer> I cant find a way to use MPC in ubuntu :(
[23:33] <justakill> Whats the command for mounting
[23:33] <justakill> ?
[23:33] <tonyyarusso> justakill: mount
[23:34] <Renich> is there any command that can restore installed packages permissions??? system-wide?
[23:34] <Renich> dpkg has anything like "setuid" or "setgid" or something like that?
[23:34] <justakill> so something is probably wrong with the drive
[23:34] <justakill> cuz the disk is okay
[23:34] <justakill> but music works
[23:35] <justakill> i can also write cd's
[23:35] <OerHeks> Renich, what did you do, chmod 777 ?
[23:35] <Renich> OerHeks: find . -type d -exec chown renich.gitters
[23:35] <Renich> OerHeks: can you help me restore permissions system-wide?
[23:35] <gohdan> justakill: you need to grab libdvdcss maybe
[23:36] <justakill> i have libdvdcss
[23:36] <Aer> Does no one here know a program for Ubuntu to convert audio to MPC ?
[23:36] <OerHeks> RenaKunisaki, no, if that command changes all to you, only reinstall will help.
[23:36] <ahammond> what is best practice for handling configuration of rsyslog? I see /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf which contains a lines for debug and messages, and I want to add local0.none to both of these... do I simply create a 75-postgresql.conf for this?
[23:36] <gohdan> justakill: what happens when you try to play it in vlc?
[23:37] <Renich> OerHeks: rpm has something... dpkg doesn't?... hmmm
[23:37] <tonyyarusso> Aer: I've never even heard of MPC as a file format.  What the heck is that?
[23:37] <Aer> its the MusePack audio format
[23:37] <tonyyarusso> Which is?
[23:38] <tonyyarusso> Use real formats, geez.
[23:38] <Aer> its a real good quality format lol and from what i hear is easier on battery life on my mp4
[23:38] <Aer> MPC is a real format
[23:38] <OerHeks> MPC is for SOny ?
[23:38] <Aer> it beats mp3 and wma on quality
[23:38] <tonyyarusso> suuuure
[23:38] <Aer> try it yourself one day if you dont beleive me
[23:38] <tonyyarusso> Well, you won't find any software to make it, so it doesn't matter how good it supposedly is.
[23:39] <Aer> well I have one piece of software that is supposed to let me convert to mpc
[23:39] <Aer> but it doesnt seem to wanna do it lol
[23:39] <Aer> it only seems to want to do it IF i rip the audio straight from cd
[23:39] <Aer> which is a hassle
[23:40] <_asdf_> http://paste.debian.net/122029/
[23:40] <justakill> Playback failure:
[23:40] <justakill> DVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/dvd".
[23:40] <justakill> Your input can't be opened:
[23:40] <justakill> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/dvd'. Check the log for details.
[23:40] <FloodBot1> justakill: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:40] <_asdf_> ActionParsnip> are you still there? ActionParsnip>
[23:40] <_asdf_> ActionParsnip> my modem screwed up
[23:40] <Aer> i guess i wont find help here then since it isnt a "real" format lol
[23:40] <_asdf_> ActionParsnip>  if you are still there here are the data http://paste.debian.net/122029/
[23:40] <ChogyDan> _asdf_: try sudo apt-get clean, and then retry your original command
[23:40] <Polarina> I seem to be having problems with Unity in which the left bar seems to be unwilling to disappear when windows go behind it or are maximized. What can I do?
[23:41] <rookie> herro
[23:41] <OerHeks> Musepack or MPC is an open source lossy audio codec .. thnx wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musepack
[23:41] <gohdan> justakill: launch vlc from a term and pastebin the error output
[23:41] <rookie> hello
[23:41] <Aer> 0erHeks: :)
[23:42] <rookie> connection interupption?
[23:42] <dimas_> how do i chenge the stupid original destop configuration and put something more funcional like the menus in the top bar?
[23:42] <rookie> why is everyone getting kicked?
[23:42] <justakill> i launched it from vlc
[23:42] <justakill> thru a terminal
[23:42] <rookie> what version of ubuntu?
[23:42] <justakill> where can i paste the error output?
[23:42] <dimas_> 11.04
[23:42] <OerHeks> !paste
[23:42] <rookie> lmao
[23:43] <ahammond> sorry, my wifi just got bounced. did I miss an answer to rsyslog question?
[23:43] <rookie> switch to gnome classic at login
[23:43] <KM0201> !classic | rookie
 no good http://paste.debian.net/122031/ i dont know where the problem is -.-
[23:43] <Aer> does anyone know if there is some sort of audio/video channel for ubuntu software ?
[23:43] <Aer> maybe I can ask my question in there
[23:43] <dimas_> KM0201 thank you
[23:44] <KM0201> dimas_: np
[23:44] <rookie> hey!
[23:44] <_asdf_> SystemError: E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[23:44] <rookie> i gave the answer first!
[23:44] <ChogyDan> _asdf_: what does apt-cache policy libg11-mesa-glx
[23:44] <Aer> anyone ? xD
[23:44] <dimas_> i go do that this is estressing me...lol
[23:45] <rookie> sudo @*^% unity
[23:45] <rookie> jordan, this week in linux?
 N: Unable to locate package libg11-mesa-glx
[23:47] <ChogyDan> _asdf_: oops, I mis spelled.  it is lib gL1
[23:48] <ahammond> what is best practice for handling configuration of rsyslog? I see /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf which contains a lines for debug and messages, and I want to add local0.none to both of these... do I simply create a 75-postgresql.conf for this?
[23:48] <OogyPoogy> Hi all.
[23:48] <aabbccdwe> hi all
[23:48] <OogyPoogy> Does anyone else have problems running Guake, the terminal emulator? It used to run perfectly. No for some reason, it just won't boot
 http://paste.debian.net/122035/
[23:49] <OogyPoogy> I'm running Natty btw
[23:49] <justakill> How do i know which mountpoint my dvd drive is
[23:49] <justakill> ?
[23:49] <aabbccdwe> You see my message?
[23:49] <StevenR> justakill: type mount in a terminal
 DVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/dvd"....
[23:50] <StevenR> aabbccdwe: you said hi all. nothing else appeared
[23:50] <lasha> hey guys
 http://paste.debian.net/122035/ am i hopeless? =(
[23:50] <aabbccdwe> do you see my message?
[23:51] <lasha> i am in ubuntu right now but cant see the windows7 in grub, update-grub didnt find it
[23:51] <ChogyDan> _asdf_: you need to remove the xorg edgers ppa I think.  You still haven't done that
  i have tried... but i dont know what i have to pruge
[23:52] <ChogyDan> _asdf_: are you stuck on a terminal?
[23:52] <szal> lasha: try running 'os-discover' first
[23:52] <StevenR> aabbccdwe: yes. If you have a question, please ask it :)
 no just the game dont works =/
[23:52] <aabbccdwe> You see my message???
[23:53] <ChogyDan> _asdf_: then try using synaptic, and then editing the repos through the GUI
[23:53] <lasha> szal: command not found
[23:53] <OogyPoogy> I guess noone can help me with Guake. I realize that its a basic program, but I'm wondering why it all of a sudden stopped working. Perhaps I killed a dependency, but that should have been fixed on a reinstall, which didn't occur.
[23:53] <justakill> I don't get why its so complicated to load a dvd on my computer?
[23:53] <justakill> how annoying...
[23:53] <szal> lasha: with privileges, that is
[23:53] <aabbccdwe> hello??
[23:53] <lasha> szal: i did with sudo :S didnt work :\
[23:53] <ChogyDan> _asdf_: wait a sec, delay that
[23:54] <szal> aabbccdwe: do you have a question?  then ask it; jumping up & down and waving hands helps no one
[23:54] <xangua> aabbccdwe: do you have a support question¿
[23:55] <ChogyDan> _asdf_: ok, new direction, sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers
[23:55] <OerHeks> justakill, .. even with ccs2 script, some dvd will not play
[23:55] <aabbccdwe> why im gray? did you see me? ?
[23:55] <xangua> ...
[23:55] <StevenR> aabbccdwe: yes! we see you!
[23:55] <tzhuang> Regarding Ubuntu 11.04 installation: I partitioned around 100MB as a boot partition for which I specified to mount /boot. I then said to install the bootloader to sda7 (the boot partition). During the installation, the installer said I could not install the bootloader to the partition. The gui wouldn't work at that point so I was forced to reboot. Then I tried to install Grub2 manually through a terminal to no avail.  The error I get is "Sector 50 is already in 
[23:55] <aabbccdwe> tnx
[23:55] <justakill> na its not that something is wrong with my dvd player
[23:56] <Aer> just for anyone who was listening in earlier and was curious or may want to know
 seems good... he is downgreading something
[23:56] <Aer> I found a program in Ubuntu Software Centre which allows me to convert my audio files already on my drive to MPC
[23:56] <Aer> its called "SoundKonverter" it uses a KDE interface
[23:57] <Aer> seems to do the job, hope its usefull for someone lol
[23:58] <anomaliz> hi
[23:59] <[mickey]> hey everyone: any idea what's causing or how I could fix this: BUG: "unable to handle kernel paging request at fffffffc"
[23:59] <[mickey]> ?
[23:59] <szal> hmmm..  I'm pretty sure the command 'os-discover' existed at some point, I used it myself once..  anyone have an idea where it's gone?  I don't even find it w/ apt-file search
 it think it worked! i cant thank you enough!