| knome_web | anyway, i actually managed to splat one more bug before the server went dingdong | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Unit193 | Eh... Not fun! Do you know why yet? | 00:01 |
| knome_web | well no idea, though i emailed the service provider already | 00:02 |
| knome_web | (and yes, it's 2am in finland) | 00:02 |
| knome_web | i think we're almost up again! | 00:03 |
| knome_web | i'm already being asked a password on ssh connection | 00:03 |
| knome_web | now we're all the way up to connection refused! | 00:07 |
| knome | and we're back | 00:23 |
| knome | Unit193, which email? :) | 00:23 |
| knome | woot, they just released 3.2 | 00:23 |
| knome | errm, wordpress 3.2 :) | 00:23 |
| knome | woot, the new admin looks sexy | 00:28 |
| knome | see for yourself (updated the demo site to 3.2 as well) | 00:29 |
| knome | okay, so now every non-ie related bug in imgcapt is fixed, except the translation issue | 00:31 |
| Unit193 | knome: The one with the WP content | 00:35 |
| knome | Unit193, ? | 00:37 |
| knome | the bug in "playground" is fixed, since there is no better way to display the span there. | 00:38 |
| knome | the xfwm bug is a completely different issue ;) | 00:38 |
| knome | err xfpm | 00:39 |
| knome | is there any other bug you might be referring to? | 00:39 |
| knome | astraljava, thanks for the good feedback! | 00:40 |
| astraljava | knome: Thanks for the opportunity to take part. :) | 00:40 |
| knome | no problem! | 00:41 |
| knome | i'm probably going to add a few other plugins to the site soon.. | 00:41 |
| astraljava | knome: Just let us know if we can be of assistance when regards to testing. | 00:43 |
| knome | astraljava, sure! :) | 00:44 |
| knome | some of them actually need next to no testing (have been in use for >year...) | 00:46 |
| knome | i suppose the most important thing is to check the installation process to a new installation rather than just maintaining the original plugin installation | 00:47 |
| astraljava | knome: Yeah. Read that wrong. Thought you said you were fixing some other plugins. :) | 00:47 |
| knome | heh well, there are some plugins that need testing | 00:47 |
| knome | probably not fixing, but giving other people access to them might bring out something weird ;) | 00:48 |
| knome | and if not anything else, need for additional features might arise | 00:50 |
| astraljava | knome: Yeah. It's not always bugs only in existing functionality. | 00:57 |
| astraljava | Uhh... #ubuntu is an endeavour. I need to sleep now. :D | 00:57 |
| knome | heh :D | 00:57 |
| knome | good night! | 00:57 |
| astraljava | Thanks, you too! | 00:57 |
| knome | (let's see if it's 4am or 6am tonight... ;)) | 00:59 |
| Unit193 | knome: I was talking about the Testing the ImgCapt WordPress plugin email (Really doesn't matter at this point) | 01:09 |
| knome | Unit193, :) | 01:09 |
| knome | Unit193, i can still create you an account... | 01:09 |
| knome | while i fixed many issues, it's still not perfect | 01:10 |
| Unit193 | knome: If you don't need any more testing (And astralj is better anyway) | 01:11 |
| knome | Unit193, i definitely need more testing for imgcapt, the last discussion was about other plugins :) | 01:11 |
| Unit193 | I could test to the best of my ability, but that may not be all that well (I also wouldn't really be too happy about last name) | 01:18 |
| knome | okay, just throw in the initial :) | 01:18 |
| Unit193 | And you would be OK with that? Cool. PM or email? | 01:20 |
| knome | pm is fine | 01:20 |
| knome | and yeah, that's fine really | 01:20 |
| NevoTech | Hi, I'm a small system builder, and I'm interested in marketing Xubuntu on my website and in ads, who would i talk to? | 06:25 |
| astraljava | NevoTech: That would be charlie-tca, pleia2, knome and plantoschka. | 06:26 |
| NevoTech | perfect, thank you | 06:27 |
| astraljava | NevoTech: Thanks for helping out! :) | 06:30 |
| charlie-tca | Good morning | 12:58 |
| charlie-tca | Testing alpha2 begins today, all the images should be dated today | 12:58 |
| knome | charlie-tca, hey (pong) | 13:04 |
| charlie-tca | yes, here | 13:04 |
| knome | charlie-tca, you pinged me earlier? | 13:06 |
| charlie-tca | I don't remember? I went off line most of yesterday | 13:07 |
| knome | would that have been something about the plugin testing, or something else? | 13:07 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know now | 13:07 |
| knome | heh, okay | 13:08 |
| knome | do you want an account to the test site anyway? | 13:10 |
| charlie-tca | sure | 13:14 |
| charlie-tca | use this nick | 13:14 |
| knome | which email? | 13:14 |
| charlie-tca | charlie-tca AT ubuntu | 13:14 |
| knome | done, you should have email | 13:15 |
| charlie-tca | thank you | 13:16 |
| knome | np | 13:19 |
| xeranas | Hi all, | 13:35 |
| xeranas | If I want to learn about devepoping xubuntu where I should start reading maybe good article exist about this? | 13:35 |
| charlie-tca | http://xubuntu.org/contribute | 13:36 |
| * knome is keeping his fingers crossed that the page is up-to-date enough ;) | 13:37 | |
| xeranas | so first recomended thing is become MOTU? | 13:38 |
| charlie-tca | yes, it is | 13:38 |
| charlie-tca | all of the developers for Xubuntu have to start there | 13:38 |
| micahg | ugh, it's no longer needed to become MOTU before becoming an Ubuntu developer, there are Per package upload rights as well as packagesets now, I can't speak for xubuntu-dev though | 13:40 |
| knome | being a motu is not a bad starting point | 13:40 |
| micahg | yes, but one should only become MOTU if one is interested in the archive in general and not a specific set of packages | 13:40 |
| charlie-tca | xeranas: apparently, the first step is to become a Ubuntu developer now | 13:41 |
| knome | and there are probably things you can help with even if you are not a motu, or ubuntu member | 13:41 |
| knome | xeranas, what are your main points of interest? | 13:41 |
| xeranas | learn and get more expierence | 13:42 |
| xeranas | and afcourse make something usefull | 13:42 |
| knome | micahg, is there some low-hanging fruit out of the motu scope you and mr_pouit are working on right now? | 13:43 |
| micahg | knome: I think we're done with the first round of merges, idk of anything offhand, maybe charlie-tca knows of some outstanding bugs that need fixing that might be on the easier side | 13:44 |
| charlie-tca | Back to the first step | 13:44 |
| knome | charlie-tca, any important, but probably easyish bugs? | 13:46 |
| charlie-tca | None | 13:46 |
| knome | non-important? | 13:46 |
| knome | non-easy? | 13:46 |
| knome | ANY bugs? | 13:47 |
| knome | :) | 13:47 |
| charlie-tca | This is why the first step is to start at Ubuntu development. | 13:47 |
| knome | xeranas, do you have any experience in programming? | 13:47 |
| knome | charlie-tca, i doubt ubuntu has any easier bugs really.. | 13:47 |
| charlie-tca | They have such stuff. We don't usually have the documenatation, training ability, bitesize fix easy, etc | 13:47 |
| charlie-tca | Of course they do. | 13:47 |
| charlie-tca | Go to launchpad, seach on bitesize tag | 13:48 |
| charlie-tca | go to harvest, they keep a page of easy to fix issues | 13:48 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: well, the mentoring can happen in #ubuntu-motu, was just wondering if you have any itches for someone to scratch | 13:49 |
| charlie-tca | We are a very small team, most of the easy stuff happens very fast here. | 13:49 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: you and mr_pouit are handling the development side, is there any? | 13:50 |
| micahg | k, harvest is a good, idea, I think the xubuntu packageset shows up there | 13:50 |
| xeranas | knome: PHP, Python, Java, and bit C++ | 13:51 |
| charlie-tca | How about the "lightdm won't give us a live session" stuff? | 13:51 |
| micahg | heh, that's not so easy... | 13:51 |
| micahg | harvest does have a list for the xubuntu packageset though | 13:51 |
| xeranas | knome: currently only harvesting information where can start, it not mean that Im start right now (because first need read lots of documentation and I want spend time in right place ...) | 13:52 |
| knome | xeranas, sure! i'm sure micahg can help you getting started with the right stuff from here :) | 13:53 |
| charlie-tca | Well, if I give advice and then someone else decides it is wrong, I don't have any more | 13:54 |
| knome | charlie-tca, your advice is of course taken into account :) didn't micahg say that harvest is a good idea :) | 13:56 |
| xeranas | charlie-tca: I read MOTU as well, I feel that good to know packaging basics | 13:56 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: just saying that MOTU isn't a required first step towards xubuntu upload rights as far as the DMB is concerned, Xubuntu itself can have its own rules though | 13:58 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: and I did acknowledge your role as decider in my original statement :) | 14:01 |
| charlie-tca | As to the wiki, if it is wrong, perhaps micahg and knome would be so good as to get it updated? | 14:01 |
| charlie-tca | or, rather, website | 14:01 |
| knome | mmh, that's on the list before we publish the new website | 14:02 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: well, I guess that can be a topic for the next meeting, if MOTU should still be a first step or not | 14:02 |
| charlie-tca | That needs to be done asap, not when we have the website go up | 14:02 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: that is up to mr_pouit, as lead developer for Xubuntu | 14:02 |
| mr_pouit | eh, I thought that to be able to get our own members and developers, we'd have to set up the xubuntu council first? | 14:04 |
| mr_pouit | (o hai, btw) | 14:04 |
| micahg | but AFAIK xubuntu-dev != upload rights | 14:04 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: yes | 14:04 |
| charlie-tca | and until that point, where do they start? | 14:04 |
| mr_pouit | mmh, it's always a good idea to read the motu documentation anyway (but then, it's possible to focus later on xubuntu/xfce packages instead of all universe packages) | 14:06 |
| charlie-tca | Can't actually set up a council with a 4 person team, and two of the 4 are mostly inactive | 14:06 |
| knome | i need to go | 14:07 |
| knome | i'll be back later today | 14:07 |
| knome | see you | 14:07 |
| GridCube | :( im sorry i don't know if i can test today | 14:40 |
| GridCube | :( | 14:41 |
| charlie-tca | np | 14:41 |
| GridCube | how much time is left? maybe i can get back to my house to do a late test | 14:42 |
| charlie-tca | um, daily or milestone? | 14:45 |
| charlie-tca | We started testing alpha2 today. We have today and tomorrow to do them | 14:45 |
| GridCube | milestone? | 14:45 |
| GridCube | oh | 14:45 |
| charlie-tca | This is the ones on the iso tracker | 14:45 |
| GridCube | :D i can get to do milestone tomorrow then :D | 14:45 |
| charlie-tca | My zsync is taaking forever today | 14:46 |
| charlie-tca | 3-1/2 hours already | 14:46 |
| GridCube | that might be all the people ddosing unintentionally the servers | 14:46 |
| charlie-tca | yeah | 14:47 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: I show 67 proposed new Xubuntu Team members at https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team | 15:11 |
| charlie-tca | Want to discuss them in pm or throrgh email? | 15:11 |
| * micahg wonders if he should throw his hat into the list... | 15:14 | |
| * charlie-tca and mr_pouit think micahg should throw his hat into https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ | 15:15 | |
| micahg | charlie-tca: not possible, restricted team :) | 15:16 |
| micahg | mr_pouit could add me if he wants to | 15:18 |
| charlie-tca | Yes, he could | 15:19 |
| charlie-tca | How do you grow a team that no one can apply to? | 15:19 |
| micahg | ah, it says one needs to create a wiki page | 15:19 |
| micahg | and petition for entrance | 15:20 |
| * micahg guesses he could do that at some point | 15:20 | |
| The_Soup | charlie-tca: http://www.emotty.com/images/emoticons/907.png | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: it never actually tells you who/what to send the request to | 15:21 |
| micahg | true | 15:21 |
| mr_pouit | oh, I didn't know I'm an admin of xubuntu-dev | 15:23 |
| mr_pouit | ~I'll add you then :p | 15:23 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: getting the Xubuntu Team together is necessary to getting even close to setting up a council, since they are the team that has to vote for a council | 15:24 |
| mr_pouit | yeah, from a quick look at the list of proposed members, most of them don't seem to be related to xubuntu :| | 15:25 |
| charlie-tca | true | 15:25 |
| charlie-tca | but we still have ncommander on xubuntu-dev too | 15:25 |
| mr_pouit | yeah, in pkg-xfce (in debian) also, but he hasn't done anything since xfce 4.6... | 15:26 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: he's in there twice actually (he's core-dev now :)) | 15:26 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: shall I clean up Xubuntu Team and email a list of candidates to you for comments? | 15:27 |
| mr_pouit | charlie-tca: thanks, that would be great (I don't think I know more than 4 names in this list :}) | 15:27 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, I will give it a try | 15:27 |
| charlie-tca | That should be the team selecting the next project leader | 15:28 |
| charlie-tca | Some of them are the people testing the development versions for us, too | 15:28 |
| mr_pouit | I think I saw pleia, the dev of xfce4-volumed, a danish xfce translator, and a kubuntu developer ;p | 15:28 |
| charlie-tca | heh, I will see what I can do for it, then. | 15:29 |
| mr_pouit | if you're fine with that, I'll add micahg to ~xubuntu-dev without the need for him to do any wikipage :p | 15:30 |
| charlie-tca | Sure, and then we can bug him for the page to get done ;) | 15:30 |
| mr_pouit | huhuhu | 15:31 |
| charlie-tca | How did micahg get to be an ubuntu member without a wiki page? | 15:31 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: I have one for Ubuntu membership, one for mozillateam, and one for MOTU | 15:31 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, so one for Xubuntu should be easy? ;) | 15:32 |
| * micahg will cut and paste from +uploaded-packages | 15:32 | |
| mr_pouit | and then one wikipage to list all these ones | 15:32 |
| charlie-tca | hehehe, yeah, that too | 15:32 |
| micahg | 18 out of the last 75 are xfce* | 15:33 |
| charlie-tca | Really? | 15:34 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: https://launchpad.net/~micahg/+uploaded-packages | 15:34 |
| charlie-tca | oh, good | 15:34 |
| micahg | most were sync requests :) | 15:34 |
| charlie-tca | Every one helps | 15:35 |
| micahg | but I think I got libgtk2-notify-perl working with the new libnotify, just need to wait on a libgtk2-perl rebuild which should happen after alpha2 | 15:35 |
| micahg | which is one of the last packages keeping libnotify1 on the CD | 15:36 |
| * micahg hugs mr_pouit | 15:37 | |
| mr_pouit | :) | 15:40 |
| * micahg wonders what he got himself into now... | 15:41 | |
| charlie-tca | nothing but good :) | 15:41 |
| mr_pouit | you'll have to obey charlie-tca :P | 15:42 |
| charlie-tca | Is that even possible? | 15:44 |
| charlie-tca | re-syncing xubuntu images, which got respun after I synced them | 15:44 |
| charlie-tca | 23% changed on the desktop 64 image | 15:45 |
| === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 | ||
| Unit193 | With the idea of dev testers, do I count? Should I join xubuntu-team? | 17:32 |
| charlie-tca | Um, you should join ~xubuntu-testers in launchpad | 17:33 |
| Unit193 | I'm the newest person to apply :) | 17:36 |
| charlie-tca | hm, my internet connection sure hates doing three installs at one time now | 17:39 |
| astraljava | Unit193: Are you testing today? I forgot to download the image at work, and cannot do it over the 3G due to the quota. I'll try to recall to download it tomorrow before heading home. | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | doing my part to turn the iso tracker red today | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ | 17:54 |
| Unit193 | astraljava: I'm trying to, but I have something most of the day (I can do this 'til midnight, right?) | 18:01 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 18:05 |
| charlie-tca | Unless things get fixed suddenly, we should have the same images now until Friday's run | 18:06 |
| Unit193 | Mind if I run things by you before putting them on the tracker? (Like normal) | 18:09 |
| charlie-tca | no, I don't mind. | 18:09 |
| charlie-tca | Congratulations, pleia2 ! Best wishes to both of you! | 18:14 |
| pleia2 | charlie-tca: thank you :) | 18:15 |
| micahg | pleia2: congrats! | 18:18 |
| charlie-tca | Why is modem manager loading a ton of plugins before the Xubuntu desktop install restarts? | 18:18 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: I get the same thing when Ubuntu logs out to shut down | 18:19 |
| charlie-tca | Got about 60 or more plugins loading between "restart" and "remove cd" | 18:19 |
| davmor2 | only unloading obviously | 18:19 |
| charlie-tca | it says "loading | 18:19 |
| pleia2 | micahg: thanks! | 18:20 |
| charlie-tca | well, I probably got enough red on the tracker anyway | 18:20 |
| charlie-tca | It seems to be our turn for red bugs | 18:21 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: try Ubuntu you can make up the difference in no time guaranteed :) | 18:21 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 18:21 |
| charlie-tca | what an idea! | 18:21 |
| astraljava | pleia2: Congratulations, though I'm not really sure why, but I have a hunch. :) | 18:40 |
| pleia2 | astraljava: thanks :) (engaged) | 18:40 |
| astraljava | Unit193: Yeah no biggie. But yeah, I'll test tomorrow anyway, if I recall/can download during the workday. | 18:41 |
| astraljava | pleia2: Figured something like that. :) | 18:41 |
| The_Soup | pleia2: congratulations too :3 | 18:49 |
| === The_Soup is now known as GridCube | ||
| pleia2 | thank you :) | 18:50 |
| GridCube | lol my nick was wrong | 18:50 |
| GridCube | :) i hope i can get to my home soon and do the testings for this milestone | 18:51 |
| GridCube | and in other news... :D I got a job! :D i'm a real librarian now! | 18:51 |
| pleia2 | congrats | 18:56 |
| davmor2 | GridCube: It's not a boring job either I've seen all about it http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0412915/ | 18:59 |
| charlie-tca | GridCube: congratulations on the new job! | 19:01 |
| davmor2 | GridCube: Congratulations though | 19:01 |
| GridCube | davmor2: i study library science :D librarianship is the awesomest of the awesome | 19:05 |
| GridCube | lol that movie, haven't actually seen it yet | 19:06 |
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