[00:00] anyway, i actually managed to splat one more bug before the server went dingdong [00:01] Eh... Not fun! Do you know why yet? [00:02] well no idea, though i emailed the service provider already [00:02] (and yes, it's 2am in finland) [00:03] i think we're almost up again! [00:03] i'm already being asked a password on ssh connection [00:07] now we're all the way up to connection refused! [00:23] and we're back [00:23] Unit193, which email? :) [00:23] woot, they just released 3.2 [00:23] errm, wordpress 3.2 :) [00:28] woot, the new admin looks sexy [00:29] see for yourself (updated the demo site to 3.2 as well) [00:31] okay, so now every non-ie related bug in imgcapt is fixed, except the translation issue [00:35] knome: The one with the WP content [00:37] Unit193, ? [00:38] the bug in "playground" is fixed, since there is no better way to display the span there. [00:38] the xfwm bug is a completely different issue ;) [00:39] err xfpm [00:39] is there any other bug you might be referring to? [00:40] astraljava, thanks for the good feedback! [00:40] knome: Thanks for the opportunity to take part. :) [00:41] no problem! [00:41] i'm probably going to add a few other plugins to the site soon.. [00:43] knome: Just let us know if we can be of assistance when regards to testing. [00:44] astraljava, sure! :) [00:46] some of them actually need next to no testing (have been in use for >year...) [00:47] i suppose the most important thing is to check the installation process to a new installation rather than just maintaining the original plugin installation [00:47] knome: Yeah. Read that wrong. Thought you said you were fixing some other plugins. :) [00:47] heh well, there are some plugins that need testing [00:48] probably not fixing, but giving other people access to them might bring out something weird ;) [00:50] and if not anything else, need for additional features might arise [00:57] knome: Yeah. It's not always bugs only in existing functionality. [00:57] Uhh... #ubuntu is an endeavour. I need to sleep now. :D [00:57] heh :D [00:57] good night! [00:57] Thanks, you too! [00:59] (let's see if it's 4am or 6am tonight... ;)) [01:09] knome: I was talking about the Testing the ImgCapt WordPress plugin email (Really doesn't matter at this point) [01:09] Unit193, :) [01:09] Unit193, i can still create you an account... [01:10] while i fixed many issues, it's still not perfect [01:11] knome: If you don't need any more testing (And astralj is better anyway) [01:11] Unit193, i definitely need more testing for imgcapt, the last discussion was about other plugins :) [01:18] I could test to the best of my ability, but that may not be all that well (I also wouldn't really be too happy about last name) [01:18] okay, just throw in the initial :) [01:20] And you would be OK with that? Cool. PM or email? [01:20] pm is fine [01:20] and yeah, that's fine really [06:25] Hi, I'm a small system builder, and I'm interested in marketing Xubuntu on my website and in ads, who would i talk to? [06:26] NevoTech: That would be charlie-tca, pleia2, knome and plantoschka. [06:27] perfect, thank you [06:30] NevoTech: Thanks for helping out! :) [12:58] Good morning [12:58] Testing alpha2 begins today, all the images should be dated today [13:04] charlie-tca, hey (pong) [13:04] yes, here [13:06] charlie-tca, you pinged me earlier? [13:07] I don't remember? I went off line most of yesterday [13:07] would that have been something about the plugin testing, or something else? [13:07] I don't know now [13:08] heh, okay [13:10] do you want an account to the test site anyway? [13:14] sure [13:14] use this nick [13:14] which email? [13:14] charlie-tca AT ubuntu [13:15] done, you should have email [13:16] thank you [13:19] np [13:35] Hi all, [13:35] If I want to learn about devepoping xubuntu where I should start reading maybe good article exist about this? [13:36] http://xubuntu.org/contribute [13:37] * knome is keeping his fingers crossed that the page is up-to-date enough ;) [13:38] so first recomended thing is become MOTU? [13:38] yes, it is [13:38] all of the developers for Xubuntu have to start there [13:40] ugh, it's no longer needed to become MOTU before becoming an Ubuntu developer, there are Per package upload rights as well as packagesets now, I can't speak for xubuntu-dev though [13:40] being a motu is not a bad starting point [13:40] yes, but one should only become MOTU if one is interested in the archive in general and not a specific set of packages [13:41] xeranas: apparently, the first step is to become a Ubuntu developer now [13:41] and there are probably things you can help with even if you are not a motu, or ubuntu member [13:41] xeranas, what are your main points of interest? [13:42] learn and get more expierence [13:42] and afcourse make something usefull [13:43] micahg, is there some low-hanging fruit out of the motu scope you and mr_pouit are working on right now? [13:44] knome: I think we're done with the first round of merges, idk of anything offhand, maybe charlie-tca knows of some outstanding bugs that need fixing that might be on the easier side [13:44] Back to the first step [13:46] charlie-tca, any important, but probably easyish bugs? [13:46] None [13:46] non-important? [13:46] non-easy? [13:47] ANY bugs? [13:47] :) [13:47] This is why the first step is to start at Ubuntu development. [13:47] xeranas, do you have any experience in programming? [13:47] charlie-tca, i doubt ubuntu has any easier bugs really.. [13:47] They have such stuff. We don't usually have the documenatation, training ability, bitesize fix easy, etc [13:47] Of course they do. [13:48] Go to launchpad, seach on bitesize tag [13:48] go to harvest, they keep a page of easy to fix issues [13:49] charlie-tca: well, the mentoring can happen in #ubuntu-motu, was just wondering if you have any itches for someone to scratch [13:49] We are a very small team, most of the easy stuff happens very fast here. [13:50] micahg: you and mr_pouit are handling the development side, is there any? [13:50] k, harvest is a good, idea, I think the xubuntu packageset shows up there [13:51] knome: PHP, Python, Java, and bit C++ [13:51] How about the "lightdm won't give us a live session" stuff? [13:51] heh, that's not so easy... [13:51] harvest does have a list for the xubuntu packageset though [13:52] knome: currently only harvesting information where can start, it not mean that Im start right now (because first need read lots of documentation and I want spend time in right place ...) [13:53] xeranas, sure! i'm sure micahg can help you getting started with the right stuff from here :) [13:54] Well, if I give advice and then someone else decides it is wrong, I don't have any more [13:56] charlie-tca, your advice is of course taken into account :) didn't micahg say that harvest is a good idea :) [13:56] charlie-tca: I read MOTU as well, I feel that good to know packaging basics [13:58] charlie-tca: just saying that MOTU isn't a required first step towards xubuntu upload rights as far as the DMB is concerned, Xubuntu itself can have its own rules though [14:01] charlie-tca: and I did acknowledge your role as decider in my original statement :) [14:01] As to the wiki, if it is wrong, perhaps micahg and knome would be so good as to get it updated? [14:01] or, rather, website [14:02] mmh, that's on the list before we publish the new website [14:02] charlie-tca: well, I guess that can be a topic for the next meeting, if MOTU should still be a first step or not [14:02] That needs to be done asap, not when we have the website go up [14:02] micahg: that is up to mr_pouit, as lead developer for Xubuntu [14:04] eh, I thought that to be able to get our own members and developers, we'd have to set up the xubuntu council first? [14:04] (o hai, btw) [14:04] but AFAIK xubuntu-dev != upload rights [14:04] mr_pouit: yes [14:04] and until that point, where do they start? [14:06] mmh, it's always a good idea to read the motu documentation anyway (but then, it's possible to focus later on xubuntu/xfce packages instead of all universe packages) [14:06] Can't actually set up a council with a 4 person team, and two of the 4 are mostly inactive [14:07] i need to go [14:07] i'll be back later today [14:07] see you [14:40] :( im sorry i don't know if i can test today [14:41] :( [14:41] np [14:42] how much time is left? maybe i can get back to my house to do a late test [14:45] um, daily or milestone? [14:45] We started testing alpha2 today. We have today and tomorrow to do them [14:45] milestone? [14:45] oh [14:45] This is the ones on the iso tracker [14:45] :D i can get to do milestone tomorrow then :D [14:46] My zsync is taaking forever today [14:46] 3-1/2 hours already [14:46] that might be all the people ddosing unintentionally the servers [14:47] yeah [15:11] mr_pouit: I show 67 proposed new Xubuntu Team members at https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team [15:11] Want to discuss them in pm or throrgh email? [15:14] * micahg wonders if he should throw his hat into the list... [15:15] * charlie-tca and mr_pouit think micahg should throw his hat into https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ [15:16] charlie-tca: not possible, restricted team :) [15:18] mr_pouit could add me if he wants to [15:19] Yes, he could [15:19] How do you grow a team that no one can apply to? [15:19] ah, it says one needs to create a wiki page [15:20] and petition for entrance [15:20] * micahg guesses he could do that at some point [15:20] charlie-tca: http://www.emotty.com/images/emoticons/907.png [15:21] micahg: it never actually tells you who/what to send the request to [15:21] true [15:23] oh, I didn't know I'm an admin of xubuntu-dev [15:23] ~I'll add you then :p [15:24] mr_pouit: getting the Xubuntu Team together is necessary to getting even close to setting up a council, since they are the team that has to vote for a council [15:25] yeah, from a quick look at the list of proposed members, most of them don't seem to be related to xubuntu :| [15:25] true [15:25] but we still have ncommander on xubuntu-dev too [15:26] yeah, in pkg-xfce (in debian) also, but he hasn't done anything since xfce 4.6... [15:26] charlie-tca: he's in there twice actually (he's core-dev now :)) [15:27] mr_pouit: shall I clean up Xubuntu Team and email a list of candidates to you for comments? [15:27] charlie-tca: thanks, that would be great (I don't think I know more than 4 names in this list :}) [15:27] Okay, I will give it a try [15:28] That should be the team selecting the next project leader [15:28] Some of them are the people testing the development versions for us, too [15:28] I think I saw pleia, the dev of xfce4-volumed, a danish xfce translator, and a kubuntu developer ;p [15:29] heh, I will see what I can do for it, then. [15:30] if you're fine with that, I'll add micahg to ~xubuntu-dev without the need for him to do any wikipage :p [15:30] Sure, and then we can bug him for the page to get done ;) [15:31] huhuhu [15:31] How did micahg get to be an ubuntu member without a wiki page? [15:31] charlie-tca: I have one for Ubuntu membership, one for mozillateam, and one for MOTU [15:32] Oh, so one for Xubuntu should be easy? ;) [15:32] * micahg will cut and paste from +uploaded-packages [15:32] and then one wikipage to list all these ones [15:32] hehehe, yeah, that too [15:33] 18 out of the last 75 are xfce* [15:34] Really? [15:34] charlie-tca: https://launchpad.net/~micahg/+uploaded-packages [15:34] oh, good [15:34] most were sync requests :) [15:35] Every one helps [15:35] but I think I got libgtk2-notify-perl working with the new libnotify, just need to wait on a libgtk2-perl rebuild which should happen after alpha2 [15:36] which is one of the last packages keeping libnotify1 on the CD [15:37] * micahg hugs mr_pouit [15:40] :) [15:41] * micahg wonders what he got himself into now... [15:41] nothing but good :) [15:42] you'll have to obey charlie-tca :P [15:44] Is that even possible? [15:44] re-syncing xubuntu images, which got respun after I synced them [15:45] 23% changed on the desktop 64 image === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [17:32] With the idea of dev testers, do I count? Should I join xubuntu-team? [17:33] Um, you should join ~xubuntu-testers in launchpad [17:36] I'm the newest person to apply :) [17:39] hm, my internet connection sure hates doing three installs at one time now [17:54] Unit193: Are you testing today? I forgot to download the image at work, and cannot do it over the 3G due to the quota. I'll try to recall to download it tomorrow before heading home. [17:54] doing my part to turn the iso tracker red today [17:54] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [18:01] astraljava: I'm trying to, but I have something most of the day (I can do this 'til midnight, right?) [18:05] yup [18:06] Unless things get fixed suddenly, we should have the same images now until Friday's run [18:09] Mind if I run things by you before putting them on the tracker? (Like normal) [18:09] no, I don't mind. [18:14] Congratulations, pleia2 ! Best wishes to both of you! [18:15] charlie-tca: thank you :) [18:18] pleia2: congrats! [18:18] Why is modem manager loading a ton of plugins before the Xubuntu desktop install restarts? [18:19] charlie-tca: I get the same thing when Ubuntu logs out to shut down [18:19] Got about 60 or more plugins loading between "restart" and "remove cd" [18:19] only unloading obviously [18:19] it says "loading [18:20] micahg: thanks! [18:20] well, I probably got enough red on the tracker anyway [18:21] It seems to be our turn for red bugs [18:21] charlie-tca: try Ubuntu you can make up the difference in no time guaranteed :) [18:21] heh [18:21] what an idea! [18:40] pleia2: Congratulations, though I'm not really sure why, but I have a hunch. :) [18:40] astraljava: thanks :) (engaged) [18:41] Unit193: Yeah no biggie. But yeah, I'll test tomorrow anyway, if I recall/can download during the workday. [18:41] pleia2: Figured something like that. :) [18:49] pleia2: congratulations too :3 === The_Soup is now known as GridCube [18:50] thank you :) [18:50] lol my nick was wrong [18:51] :) i hope i can get to my home soon and do the testings for this milestone [18:51] and in other news... :D I got a job! :D i'm a real librarian now! [18:56] congrats [18:59] GridCube: It's not a boring job either I've seen all about it http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0412915/ [19:01] GridCube: congratulations on the new job! [19:01] GridCube: Congratulations though [19:05] davmor2: i study library science :D librarianship is the awesomest of the awesome [19:06] lol that movie, haven't actually seen it yet