[00:21] <raevin> question...does the RAM monitor widget give out the correct usage of RAM?  Because when I run "free -m" command it says I have under 500 MB of free RAM while the RAM widget tool says I have > 6 GB, and this is when I first start up
[00:21] <raevin> default Kubuntu install
[00:29] <valorie> raevin: probably more correct to say that they are looking at slightly different ways of reporting
[00:29] <valorie> "man free" might tell you more
[00:30] <valorie> !ram
[00:30] <valorie> and that might shed light as well
[00:32] <raevin> alright, thanks valorie :)
[00:32] <raevin> is there one i should pay more attention to than another?
[00:32] <valorie> I guess it depends on your purpose
[00:33] <valorie> I don't know much about it, so I'd rely on the man pages and links
[00:33] <valorie> rather than my ignorant opinion
[00:33] <valorie> :-0
[00:33] <valorie> :-)
[00:34] <raevin> alright, thanks :)  i've just been trying to make sure that the new RAM i got isn't faulty (even though memtest returned back no problems), so got freaked out lol
[01:32] <ironfroggy__> when i resume my laptop from sleep, the battery monitor in KDE is often reporting 10% or less, even when its fully charged
[01:33] <ironfroggy__> and then it sleeps itself when it thinks the battery is going to die, and i can then resume it and it reports correctly
[01:33] <ironfroggy__> *also* when this happens it fails to enter the correct power profile, so if i dont set it myself it wont dim the screen or sleep when i close the lid.
[01:33] <ironfroggy__> is there something i might do to fix this?
[02:20] <Linkmaster> So, I guess there was an update of sorts, but now knetworkmanager does this really cool thing that displays internet connection and stuff. This is fine and dandy, except that I'm at the edge of my wireless zone. How do I turn off the notification things, because it tells me every 30 seconds or so I have low connectivity
[02:31] <jordan_> linkmaster, which notify application runs the messages?
[02:32] <Linkmaster> I use knotify if that helps any
[02:32] <jordan_> well if so
[02:33] <jordan_> you can right click on it from the panel and disable all from poping up i think
[02:33] <Linkmaster> I know about that, but I use notifications all the time. Its just this specific one I want to turn off, and this is the first time its done it, since I logged out and back in
[02:33] <jordan_> i just dont know
[02:34] <Linkmaster> Its fine
[02:34] <jordan_> im just a noob
[02:34] <jordan_> sorry
[03:08] <Linkmaster> I got tired of the notifcations, so I turned them off, and now it is spamming the 'low signal' in the middle of my display. How do I turn this feature off?????
[03:10] <fly> русский
[03:54] <uwe> moin
[04:33] <ubuntu___> good evening
[04:33] <MHz128> \msg nickserv identify 4862hex
[04:34] <MHz128> fail
[04:34] <MHz128> When trying to install from a livecd, using Entire Disk partition option, the install fails with an error "unable to mount swap".. what is causing this?
[04:34] <Unit193> MHz128: I'm starting to think you may want to change your password, but I'm not sure...
[04:35] <MHz128> I've tried with different ubuntu remixes... all all reporting the same error
[04:35] <MHz128> Unit193: do u know the PW change command?
[04:35] <Unit193> Do you have a current swap partition? You may want to kill it and make it all unformatted
[04:37] <Unit193>  /msg nickserv help
[04:37] <MHz128> Unit193: I've tried formatting and removing all partitions
[04:37] <MHz128> Unit193: I
[04:37] <MHz128> ive also tried making one large root ext4 and a smaller swap partition
[04:38] <MHz128> obviously the disc passed the chksum
[06:18] <geoff__> Running Kubuntu 11.04. I have a dual monitor setup, and made the secondary monitor my main display. Dual monitor settings didnt hold on restart, and now I don't see any windows opened.
[06:19] <geoff__> What should I do? I can't even get into a settings panel to change the display
[06:24] <geoff__> Anyone? I'm willing to try anything at this point, so any advice at all would be helpful
[06:40] <nguyenvanson> co ai o vn k ?
[07:47] <Guest52096> hi
[07:48] <Guest52096> There is anyebody?
[11:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[11:15] <Peace-> BluesKaj: fine
[11:15] <Peace-> :)
[11:17] <BluesKaj> howdy just means hi , Peace- , but I'm fine too :)
[11:19] <Peace-> BluesKaj: oooops :D
[11:20] <Peace-> BluesKaj: 30 degree :S
[11:25] <Valerie> Is anybody here?
[11:25] <BluesKaj> yes
[11:25] <Valerie> Oh that's great.
[11:26] <Valerie> I have a few problems.   I wonder if anybody can help
[11:27] <BluesKaj> well, just spell them out and we'll see if we can , Valerie
[11:28] <Valerie> First of all I am not technically minded and have asked and paid so many so called experts to help and they got me in more trouble.
[11:28] <Valerie> I could write a book.
[11:29] <Valerie> The first is they managed to take all the settings off my printer.  Have sorted that out and it works on the main computer.
[11:29] <BluesKaj> no need for a book , just tell us what's not working
[11:30] <Valerie> Because of all the changes I cannot get on line on my laptop.     Everything is fine on the main computer.
[11:30] <Valerie> I just need to be able to set that up.
[11:30] <Valerie> Firstly lols.
[11:33] <BluesKaj> run,  sudo lshw -C network , in a terminal to find your wifi chip , so we can determine what driver is needed
[11:33] <Valerie> It has a driver.   It is basic.    It is just disconnected
[11:34] <Valerie> I need to reconnect.
[11:34] <BluesKaj> the driver may be wrong
[11:35] <Valerie> Do you know anybody in London that will come out to sort out my computer.
[11:36] <Valerie> When you speak about going into the terminal and drivers.   I panic.
[11:39] <BluesKaj> don't panic ..it's very simple really ..just copy and paste command into the terminal and click enter , you'll be asked for your pw and then the result will come up , it's just a package manager  that doesn't use a gui. amongst other things
[11:40] <Valerie> I think I should let you know.   I am a Granny who loves Linux and has used everything from Slackware to kubunta.
[11:41] <Valerie> I know everything is okay on the laptop except that it is not connecting to the net.
[11:41] <BluesKaj> well, I'm a grandfather , who's been on linux for 6 or 7 yrs now
[11:41] <Valerie> Oh hahahahaha.
[11:41] <Valerie> You are obviously more clever than I.
[11:41] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :P granfather linux geek
[11:42] <BluesKaj> we need to know what the wifi chipis, ...you are connecting the laptop thru wifi, correct ?
[11:42] <Valerie> Since my computer went to the shop to be updated.   Nothing worked.   Printer, downloading pictures etc.
[11:42] <Valerie> Etho I think
[11:42] <BluesKaj> is it connected with a wire /cable to a router
[11:43] <Valerie> No it is wireless.   I am looking at it now and it says Wlan1
[11:43] <Valerie> And Etho is ticked at well
[11:44] <BluesKaj> in networkmanager ?
[11:44] <Valerie> I have brought up Confiture KDE control Module
[11:44] <Valerie> configure
[11:45] <Valerie> It says network interaces.  Route Domaommame system and Network Profiles at the top
[11:45] <Valerie> Domain I mean
[11:46] <Valerie> Now I am disappointed I can't use Granny as an excuse
[11:46] <BluesKaj> Valerie, which kubuntu version are you running ? ...you should have an icon in the panel showing network connection
[11:47] <Valerie> Latest on the main and an older one on the laptop
[11:47] <Valerie> Yes that I have
[11:47] <Delta_> my wireless card is not stable. whenever I download for a long period of time at 1MB/s it kind of get stuck and I have to disable and reenable my wireless card to get it working again. I am using a PAE kernel. Can this be the cause?
[11:48] <Valerie> The icon says disconnected
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Valerie, click on the network icon , and check the settings
[11:50] <Valerie> Done that.   Up comes Connection Status.    No active device.
[11:50] <Valerie> I am sure it is because the password for the router has been changed in order for the printer to work
[11:51] <Valerie> I just don't know how to change it.
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Valerie, no, it should still see the router
[11:52] <Valerie> If I right click on the icon.   It looks more promising.
[11:53] <Valerie> I wish someblody round here used Linux.   I need a Linux friend.
[11:53] <Delta_> kded4 is using 100% of my cpu
[11:53] <Delta_> helpp
[11:54] <BluesKaj> ok, Valerie find the pw or passphrase whatever name the router calls it ... it will be either near the wep or wpa setting
[11:56] <BluesKaj> Delta_, open system montitor / process table , right click on the process and choose your options to stop it
[11:57] <skidzo> hi
[11:57] <skidzo> i just made an distupgrade
[11:57] <Delta_> BluesKaj: killed it and it comes back and use 100% of 1 of the 4 cores again
[11:57] <Delta_> :(
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Delta_, don't kill, terminate
[11:58] <skidzo> but it now hangs because i cannot reach the window bottom
[11:58] <Valerie> I give up.   Thank you for trying to help.
[11:59] <skidzo> i disabled the restricted drivers before
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Valerie, we have other ways to help, but that's up to you
[11:59] <Valerie> Perhaps a more simple question.    I have Skype.    Why can I hear people and they can't hear me.  Must be something to do with the mic.
[12:00] <Valerie> Yes and I thank for for trying but I have no idea what a wep or a wpa is and I can't find it.
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Valerie, open a terminal , can you do that ?
[12:00] <skidzo> so the screen size is now at poor 800x600
[12:00] <Valerie> On the laptop or main
[12:00] <BluesKaj> laptop
[12:01] <skidzo> but the distupgrade window is larger
[12:01] <Valerie> Okay I will try
[12:01] <skidzo> how can i change the screen size?
[12:01] <skidzo> change must take effect immediately
[12:02] <skidzo> i already tried everything from the window itself
[12:02] <Valerie> I think I have opened it.  Black screen used to call it Bash
[12:03] <Valerie> OH dear do you want me to type in there lols.
[12:03] <BluesKaj> skidzo, kmenu/apps/settings/system settings/display and monitor
[12:04] <skidzo> ok
[12:05] <skidzo> and now?
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Valerie, just type ifconfig , then look for inet address
[12:06] <Valerie> Gosh a lot of things came up there
[12:06] <BluesKaj> look for the options to change the resolution, skidzo
[12:06] <Valerie> 127.0.0.1
[12:06] <skidzo> i am at 93 % of the distribution upgrade, as I said, my maximum screen resolution is 800x600
[12:07] <skidzo> because i disabled the restricted drivers
[12:07] <skidzo> changing the screen size is not an option
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Valerie, is there a number beside bcast ?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> skidzo, then i guess you know what your problem is
[12:10] <skidzo> yes I am pretty ****** up
[12:11] <Valerie> If it id Broadcast Multicast Yes  HTU.1500   Metric1
[12:13] <skidzo> this cannot be real !!! this is now my last try to upgrade to natty
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Valerie, ok copy and paste this into the terminal , sudo dhclient wlan0
[12:13] <BluesKaj> skidzo, why did you not use the recommended driver ?
[12:14] <Valerie> hahaha  I am speaking to you on the main computer.   Can't get on with the laptop.
[12:14] <Valerie> But I will type it in
[12:14] <BluesKaj> not on the main pc , on the laptop
[12:16] <BluesKaj> no point in doing it on the main pc , Valerie , I thought we were tryng to fis the wifi connect on the laptop...if you don't have laptop access then we're done
[12:17] <Valerie> No lol
[12:17] <Valerie> I am typing it on the laptop.    It is right beside me.   It is just I can't get on the net with the laptop
[12:17] <Valerie> Lot more things have come up
[12:18] <Valerie> It says error while getting interface flags No such device etc.
[12:18] <BluesKaj>  is the network manager icon spinning or moving in any manner Valerie
[12:19] <Valerie> Nope
[12:20] <Valerie> Everything says no such device and at the top it says type 801
[12:20] <BluesKaj> bummer , then we need to reinstall the driver , Valerie , in the termianl , sudo lshw -C network ..what is the output?
[12:22] <Valerie> You have been so kind in trying to help.    I think I will leave this now.    It looks to complicated.   I thought I would just have to reconfigure the connectiion.
[12:23] <Valerie> Can I come back and speak to you again another time.
[12:23] <Valerie> Wish you lived next door lol.
[12:23] <BluesKaj> anytime Valerie , it's not real complicated but it can be somewwhat time consuming
[12:24] <Valerie> Yes.    Perhaps I could aim the Skype camera at the laptop next time and you can really see what is going on.
[12:24] <Valerie> Thanks you so much.    byeeeeee
[12:24] <OerHeks> :-)
[12:25] <BluesKaj> bye Valerie
[12:26] <BluesKaj> granny with no patience  :)
[12:27] <skidzo> ok
[12:27]  * BluesKaj wonders why the terminal is so scary to some ...that damn bill gates OS is the cause , I'm sure.
[12:28] <skidzo> how can i finish a broken dist-upgrade?
[12:28] <skidzo> in the terminal
[12:28] <BluesKaj> skidzo, sudo dpkg --configure -a , or sudo apt-get -f install
[12:29] <BluesKaj> one will quit the the depends the other will force an install if possible
[12:32] <skidzo2> ok
[12:32] <BluesKaj> skidzo, then update and dist-upgrade again
[12:34] <skidzo> sorry i was disconnected
[12:34] <skidzo> last thing was : scare me off
[12:37] <BluesKaj> skidzo, sudo dpkg --configure -a , or sudo apt-get -f install
[12:37] <BluesKaj> skidzo, the first will quit the the depends the other will force an install if possible
[12:37] <skidzo> ok i did that
[12:38] <BluesKaj> skidzo, then update and dist-upgrade again
[12:39] <skidzo> it sais that it cannot finish correctly
[12:40] <skidzo> so I think I have to copy the last state back to the ssd
[12:40] <skidzo> will take some minutes...
[12:41] <skidzo> but then I can start again
[12:41] <skidzo> this time last try I hope
[12:42] <BluesKaj> skidzo, sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[12:46] <skidzo> sorry I am to fast, already restoring...
[12:49] <BluesKaj> skidzo, well, restoring is good
[12:52] <skidzo> any other idea?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> for?
[12:52] <skidzo> fixing my broken dist upgrade
[12:52] <BluesKaj> skidzo, sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[12:53] <skidzo> but how when i restarted?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> skidzo, what's the error ?
[12:54] <skidzo> i can not boot into the broken system
[12:55] <BluesKaj> skidzo, hold down the shift key at the bios page til grub menu appears, choose recovery kernel , choos "repair broken packages" in the dialog , reboot
[12:55] <skidzo> ok
[12:58] <skidzo> it says now: fail at blcr...
[13:00] <mathAgentine> hello
[13:00] <skidzo> but its reconfiguring rebuilding...
[13:03] <skidzo> now restarting
[13:03] <skidzo> i see a blue screen, not the windows blue screen of course...
[13:04] <mathAgentine> Hello  I get the error  libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.5)  and I've found 4:4.6 and 4:4.4 ¿What does those numvers means and What librery do I need?
[13:04] <BluesKaj> skidzo, no need for running commentary
[13:05] <mathAgentine> I'm tryng to install kbruch on a PC with no internet
[13:06] <mathAgentine> Is here the wright  place to ask?
[13:07] <mathAgentine> my so is ubuntu 10.10 Lynx
[13:20] <BluesKaj> mathAgentine, 10.10 is kubuntu maverick
[13:21] <BluesKaj> mathAgentine, 10.04 is lucid
[13:23] <Python> BluesKaj: do you prefer 10.04 or 11.04 ?
[13:24] <UbuntNetArg> ok 10.04
[13:24] <BluesKaj> Python, I'm usually onj the bleeding edge , 11.10 right now
[13:24] <Python> 11.10 is out ?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> as alpha  , a development version
[13:25] <BluesKaj> lcheckout #ubuntu+1
[13:28] <BluesKaj> UbuntNetArg, what did you change your nick in thre middle of asking for help...that's annoying
[13:31] <BluesKaj> UbuntNetArg, http://pkgs.org/download/ubuntu-10.04/kubuntu-backports-amd64/kbruch_4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa3_amd64.deb.html
[13:33] <UbuntNetArg> BluesKaj:  Sorry
[13:43] <UbuntNetArg> BluesKaj:  Sure that I can install amd64, I'm asking this because I thought that I'vei386 despite, as
[13:43] <UbuntNetArg> I'm a nebie , don't konw the difference betwen those archtectures
[13:55] <BluesKaj> UbuntNetArg, uname -a,  in a terminal will show your arch
[14:02] <UbuntNetArg> BluesKaj:  thnaks
[14:04] <UbuntNetArg> it seems tha my arch is i686
[14:05] <James147> UbuntNetArg: thats basically the same as i386 (ie 32bit)
[14:08] <UbuntNetArg> James thanks
[14:11] <UbuntNetArg> I've already downloaded the package bruch_4.4.2-0ubuntu2_i386.deb and I get the error  libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.5) and then  I've downloaded  libkdecore5 4:4.6
[14:11] <UbuntNetArg> but I don't know how install it
[14:12] <BluesKaj> James147, what's the proper permissions for /usr/share..seems I need to extract a plugin but i keep getting permission error, should I chmod +x /usr/share ?
[14:12] <UbuntNetArg> do i ned to copy the lib with the .deb
[14:12] <James147> BluesKaj: I wouldnt
[14:13] <James147> BluesKaj: ^^ wait... if its jsut the share dir then yes... all directorie need to be executable to be read :S
[14:13] <BluesKaj> UbuntNetArg, right click on the deb file and choose deb installer
[14:13] <BluesKaj> yeah James147 , that's what i thought
[14:14] <BluesKaj> James147, what about /usr/local ?
[14:15] <James147> same ^^ needs to be executable to be read...
[14:15] <UbuntNetArg> BluesKaj:  i'wll do
[14:17] <UbuntNetArg> BluesKaj:  whay you told me is what I've already done and I get the error mentioned above
[14:18] <BluesKaj> James147, there's something with my uuid I think ..its not giving permission'
[14:18] <BluesKaj> wrong
[14:19] <James147> BluesKaj: ... by default thouse directories are readable and executable by every one so I dont see how a uuid error could cause a problem
[14:20] <UbuntNetArg> ahh BluesKaj  your advice was about the library instalation Thanks
[14:21] <UbuntNetArg> now I get a new error libdlrestrictions1 (>= 0.14) ¡It would  never end!
[14:31] <bigjools> hi, any phonon experts around please? when I have a headset plugged in the sound still all goes via the laptop speakers
[14:39] <BluesKaj> bigjools, do you have a headphon ctrl in alsamixer
[14:40] <bigjools> BluesKaj: it appears not
[14:42] <bigjools> the device appears in the control module for phonon
[14:42] <bigjools> never gets used
[14:46] <BluesKaj> bigjools, intelhda ?
[14:46] <bigjools> usb headset, but yeah intel HDA otherwise
[14:50] <BluesKaj> ahh usb ..
[14:53] <ironfroggy> are there any known issues install openvpn and resolvconf, and the generated /etc/resolv.conf changing back and forth every minute?
[14:53] <ironfroggy> possibly some conflict between resolvconf and networkmanager?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> bigjools, pulseaudio installed ? if so install  padevchooser and pavucontrol
[14:54] <bigjools> BluesKaj: yeah PA is installed, this is natty
[14:55] <bigjools> BluesKaj: I thought that the phonon config for device prefs was supposed to handle this though
[14:56] <UbuntNetArg> thanks everybody se you later
[14:57] <BluesKaj> bigjools, perhaps it does , I don't use PA ... i have pr of wifiheadphones running off the line out
[14:57] <bigjools> PA is a disaster
[14:58] <BluesKaj> usb hps can be a pita as well
[14:59] <Peace-> bigjools: install veromix
[14:59] <Peace-> bigjools: add widget download
[14:59] <Peace-> veromix
[14:59] <Peace-> if you don't use gtalk video
[14:59] <Peace-> you can remove pulse
[15:00] <bigjools> is that a replacement for pulse?
[15:00] <Peace-> bigjools: veromix is a mixer
[15:00] <Peace-> instead of kmix
[15:01] <bigjools> ok I'll try it out, thanks
[15:01] <Peace-> btw i have to use pulse or i can' t use video google talks
[15:01] <BluesKaj> veromix is PA mixer , not a replacement for PA
[15:01] <bigjools> yeah I was wondering
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Peace-, does it see usb headphones as a device ?
[15:02] <Peace-> BluesKaj: generally veromix help you with pulse
[15:02] <Peace-> it's just a try
[15:03] <Peace-> to try
[15:03] <Peace-> if doesn't ==> remove pulse and use only alsa
[15:06] <BluesKaj> bigjools, for whati'ts worth ..this might work  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1784949
[15:06]  * bigjools checks it out
[15:07] <bigjools> will try that shortly, thanks, need to finish this phone call I'm multitasking with :)
[15:11] <BluesKaj> bigjools, when you're finished , this might help as well http://alsa.opensrc.org/Usb-audio
[15:11] <bigjools> thank you
[15:20] <James147> bigjools: you have made sure its the prefered device in phonon right?
[15:21] <bigjools> James147: I have yes, it makes no difference (at least in Skype)
[15:22] <bigjools> I put it at the top of the lists for everything except "notifications" but even moving that doesn't help it seems
[15:22] <bigjools> I'm starting to wonder if this is a skype bug, but I've not updated it in months
[15:24] <BluesKaj> bigjools, do you have it chosen in skype > options > sound devices ?
[15:24] <bigjools> BluesKaj: yes, that's all it offers when PA is running
[15:25] <James147> bigjools: I dont think skype for linux has updated in months
[15:25] <bigjools> yeah
[15:25]  * BluesKaj curses the day PA became the default for skype as well as ubuntu
[15:25] <James147> bigjools: I would check another audio application just to make sure its not jsut skype
[15:25] <bigjools> me too BluesKaj
[15:25] <bigjools> Mumble seems ok
[15:26] <BluesKaj> bigjools, I use the static version of skype , but dunno if that will help ..I don't use heaphones on it
[15:31] <sbalmos> morning. Currently running Natty in a VM. I threw on FreeNX from the PPA like most all sites describe. I'm getting the infamous black-screen-then-disconnect issue when trying to launch a remote unix-kde NX session. I can successfully launch a custom session launching just an xterm, so I know it's not firewall or anything like that. Session logging, even at the highest level, isn't really giving
[15:31] <sbalmos> me any ideas. Possibly one mention about DBus not running. Ideas?
[15:55] <bigjools> BluesKaj: that forum post did the trick - I deleted the PA config dir and hey presto it's all behaving again
[15:55] <bigjools> thanks for the pointer!
[16:00] <BluesKaj> bigjools, cool ..I'll have to keep that url for future reference
[16:00] <bigjools> BluesKaj: of course nothing is that rosy, I lost my headset mic now!
[16:03] <BluesKaj> uhoh
[16:03] <Python> hi
[16:04] <Python> where can i get drivers for gma hd ?
[16:11] <szal> Python: Intel drivers are in the kernel
[16:19] <BluesKaj> bigjools, http://alsa.opensrc.org/Usb-audio#Devices_using_snd-usb-audio_driver
[16:19] <bigjools> BluesKaj: got the mic working but now sound back through the speakers instead of headset.  I'm doomed
[16:20] <BluesKaj> is there a setting for the mic on headset in phonon?
[16:21] <BluesKaj> or the headphones?
[16:21] <bigjools> insofar as a massive list of devices? yeah
[16:22] <bigjools> I reckon mumble has nobbled it
[16:22] <bigjools> I changed stuff in mumble recently, and just did it again and it screwed skype up right away
[16:23] <BluesKaj> what's mumble an IM ?
[16:23] <bigjools> voice-chat thing
[16:23] <bigjools> has channels like IRC
[16:29] <Ceno3x> hi guys. anyone know can I get kernel 2.6.39 running in 11.04? the kernel-team ppa is empty for reasons unknown...
[16:40] <rockprincess> hi there, are there any plans for a kubuntu client for ubuntu one? i'd rather have a native kubuntu client with kontact/kaddressbook and knotes integration before i start purchasing a premium package. any ideas?
[16:40] <bigjools> as far as I know, no
[16:41] <rockprincess> big shame :(
[16:41] <bigjools> yup
[16:42] <rockprincess> i'd rather store my stuff on an ubuntu cloud than on a google cloud....
[16:43] <LINKSWORD2> I would seriously agree with that....
[16:58] <BluesKaj> rockprincess, ubuntu one for kde was worked on  for a while by apachelogger , but I don't see anything new since aug 2010 http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/ubuntu-one-the-kde-way/
[16:59] <rockprincess> BluesKaj: yeah i know, i even tried to install it, but failed epically due to missing dependencies.....i tried to install the dependencies as well, but not all packages were available.hmmm
[17:01] <apachelogger> all it takes is someone to make it build
[17:02]  * apachelogger tried it like a month back and just about everything seems to work, except for some minor API changes that need to be adopted
[17:02] <rockprincess> if you build it, he will come ;)
[17:03] <BluesKaj> apachelogger, does it integrate with kontact and kmail etc ?
[17:04] <rockprincess> yeah, good question ;)
[17:05] <BluesKaj> I don't use them myself ,, just a home user so gmail/google docs fits my needs
[17:07] <rockprincess> google is evil though - you have no control what they do with your data :(
[17:07] <BluesKaj> kmail doesn't like the pop hotmail account that my original ISP mailserver migrated to a few yrs ago
[17:09] <BluesKaj> what data ...I have nothing to hide .... any spam is filtered immediately by me
[17:11] <rockprincess> what about contacts though? phone numbers etc....if you combine ubuntu one with an android phone....
[17:11] <BluesKaj> evil as far caring about demographics is concerned , maybe
[17:12] <BluesKaj> dunno , I just use a cell phone for simple calls to wife and kids ..pay as we go ..not a gadget hound
[17:16] <devilchaos> hey
[17:18] <rockprincess> hey
[17:18] <devilchaos> just tried dist upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04 and after upgrade am stuck at login screen any suggestions ? been through the update process again aswell and there is only one pckge failinf to install which is processorcore if that make any diff? and am using 64bit edition
[17:18] <devilchaos> ?
[17:21] <Pici> devilchaos: You shouldn't be upgrading from 10.04 directly to 11.04
[17:23] <Pici> devilchaos: You should be using do-release-upgrade (or update-manager) and going from one release to the next, not skipping over a release.
[17:28] <yofel> devilchaos: listen to Pici, but if you already upgraded make sure 'kubuntu-desktop' is installed
[17:29] <yofel> devilchaos: and i can't find a package called processorconf in the archive - PPA?
[17:30] <devilchaos> hi sorry my dinner beconed been afk bk now though
[17:30] <devilchaos> hold on ill check
[17:31] <devilchaos> ppa launchpad
[17:31] <devilchaos> and pkge name is libprocesscore4b
[17:31] <devilchaos> etc
[17:31] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm...
[17:31] <devilchaos> checking other commands mentioned now
[17:31] <yofel> ah, that does exist
[17:33] <devilchaos> what is the latest release of kubuntu desktop please i have meta pckges listed
[17:33] <devilchaos> ?
[17:34] <devilchaos> namely plasma desktop 4:4.6.2a?
[17:38] <devilchaos> done command do-release-upgrade and it echos no new release found
[17:38] <devilchaos> i added natty in apt-sources list
[17:38] <maco> you cant go from 10.04 to 11.04
[17:39] <maco> you have to go to 10.10 in between
[17:39] <devilchaos> and upgraded from there which i have always done if i were using debian in the past
[17:39] <maco> by default 10.04 will only recognise other LTS releases as available new versions, so you have to change that setting in the Software Sources preferences to make it allow non-LTS upgrades
[17:40] <maco> ick, using apt-get dist-upgrade debian-style instead of do-release-upgrade is really not recommended in ubuntu
[17:40] <maco> do-release-upgrade has lots of extra hints that apt's not aware of for resolving changes in the available list of packages from version to version
[17:40] <maco> (and as i said before, skipping releases, other than for LTS->LTS, isn't something you're supposed to do)
[17:40] <devilchaos> i thought im superseeding the software sources manager by editing the file manually
[17:41] <devilchaos> yeah im learning this now lol
[17:42] <devilchaos> might be able to recover if kde goes in and well
[17:42] <yofel> devilchaos: the largest problem is we don't support skipping releases
[17:42] <yofel> even less than dist-upgrading
[17:42] <Valerie> A message for BluesKj from Valerie.     I got the internet to work on the laptop.   I am a happy bunny now.  It wasn't the driver it was the configuration.     See you another time.   Thank you for your help
[17:43] <yofel> BluesKaj: ^
[17:43] <yofel> devilchaos: ok, what errors out currently? dpkg --configure -a passes fine?
[17:43] <BluesKaj> yup,ok Valerie  ladto hear that
[17:43] <devilchaos> hold on checking now
[17:44] <Valerie> Byeee
[17:44] <BluesKaj> err glad too  Valerie :)
[17:46] <devilchaos> nope doesnt pass errors with the kde plasma desktop i just installed and a few other packages think im F.U.B.A.R
[17:46] <yofel> devilchaos: ok, pastebin the errors you get
[17:46] <yofel> !pastebin | devilchaos
[17:46] <yofel> use pastebinit if you have no GUI
[17:47] <yofel> if it's just package errors the system is recoverable ^^
[17:47] <devilchaos> yes defo package errors only cant pastebin as am on laptop and its my desktop thats in strife sorry
[17:48] <yofel> ok, can you describe the error you're getting? file overwrites?
[17:49] <devilchaos> processing to configure errors
[17:49] <devilchaos> i.e
[17:49] <yofel> ok, but what's the exact error message, there are tons of configure errors
[17:49] <yofel> *possible
[17:50] <LINKSWORD2> valorie: ?
[17:51] <devilchaos> dpkg: error processing kdebase-workspace (--configure):dependacy problems -leaving unconfigured
[17:51] <yofel> ok, that means another package obove had an error, check for the topmost error
[17:51] <devilchaos> sorry im slow at typing
[17:52] <yofel> np, I'll be here for a while
[17:52] <LINKSWORD2> I think I would HATE to have dpkg as a username on this chat. lol
[17:52] <Pici> LINKSWORD2: dpkg is actually the nick of the bot on #debian
[17:52] <yofel> heh
[17:53] <LINKSWORD2> It's also the name of one of the package systems in the background of Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[17:55] <devilchaos> top most error is dpkg:dependancy problems prevent configuration of libprocessui4a:libprocessui4a depends on libprocesscore 4b
[17:56] <LINKSWORD2> Oh!
[17:56] <LINKSWORD2> Will OpenOffice / LibOffice supoort .DOCX files?
[17:57] <devilchaos> also to note it states errors were encountered while processing : libprocessui4a,ksysguard,kdebase-workspace-bin, kde-window-manager, kdebase-workspace
[17:57] <devilchaos> yes they do support doc files
[17:57] <devilchaos> at leaset i think so
[17:58] <LINKSWORD2> devilchaos: I know I can open older .doc files.... But I don't know if I'd be able to open .docx, or dox files.
[17:58] <devilchaos> which are all packages that i get errors from above that note
[17:59] <canu-qumm> lol
[17:59] <devilchaos> only ways prob to try it and find out ? :)
[17:59] <canu-qumm> oh hey guys, its my first time at irc
[17:59] <devilchaos> hi
[17:59] <devilchaos> be polite and dont annoy anyone
[18:00] <canu-qumm> i'm not that kind of person, thank you.
[18:00] <devilchaos> thats the 2 rules ive stuck to and gone far with not trying to say u are a bad person just friendly advise for first time user
[18:00] <canu-qumm> no no, i meant this is my first time running an irc client, not chatting on the internet
[18:01] <devilchaos> oh oops
[18:01] <canu-qumm> :D
[18:01] <devilchaos> coolio
[18:01] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[18:01] <devilchaos> :)
[18:01] <canu-qumm> isnt there a way to run an irc client on terminal?
[18:01] <canu-qumm> it'd be definitely fun.
[18:01] <maco> irssi
[18:01] <devilchaos> nope
[18:01] <BluesKaj> canu-qumm, yes irssi
[18:01] <LINKSWORD2> !irssi
[18:01] <devilchaos> yes agree
[18:01] <canu-qumm> how do you run it on terminal?
[18:02] <devilchaos> brb afk
[18:02] <canu-qumm> kay thanks.
[18:02] <maco> well, first you have to get it installed, then jsut type "irssi"
[18:02] <LINKSWORD2> Hehe. When all else fails, listen to ubottu....
[18:02] <maco> itll use your username for the computer as your username on irc. you can set that with -nick username    too
[18:02] <maco> and then /connect irc.freenode.net
[18:03] <canu-qumm> but this also works for kubuntu?
[18:03] <canu-qumm> kay, im opening konsole now.
[18:06] <canu-qumm> it says it's looking up irc.freenode.net
[18:06] <canu-qumm> :D it worked, thanks guys
[18:06] <canu-qumm> oops lol it didnt
[18:06] <canu-qumm> unable to connect server irc.freenode.net port 6667 [no route to host].
[18:06] <canu-qumm> this is depressing.
[18:09] <cameri> -nick canu-qumm
[18:10] <cameri> lol
[18:10] <devilchaos> any further suggestion to recover my system before i do and overhaul and just download the new install cd?
[18:10] <cameri> how do i change my username again? i dont know how my brother's username appeared here
[18:11] <cameri> ..
[18:12] <canu-qumm> lol
[18:12] <Pici> canu-qumm: /nick newnick
[18:12] <Pici> err
[18:12] <Pici> cameri: ^
[18:13] <cani-qumm> oh. wait
[18:13] <cani-qumm> my name was already taken because Quassel remained opened
[18:13] <canu-qumm> there we go.
[18:14] <devilchaos> marco?
[18:14] <canu-qumm> polo
[18:14] <devilchaos> lol
[18:14] <canu-qumm> is it possible to change the color of one's nickname?
[18:14] <devilchaos> oops maco?
[18:16] <Pici> canu-qumm: No.
[18:16] <devilchaos> aw hey got further than the login that time im in
[18:16] <canu-qumm> kay then.
[18:17]  * canu-qumm does nothing
[18:19] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[18:21] <devilchaos> is there a list of sources for natty somewhere and someone point me to the url please?
[18:21] <maco> list of sources? you mean what sources.list should look like by default?
[18:21] <maco> or the list of source packages?
[18:21] <devilchaos> yes with natty
[18:22] <maco> that was an either/or not a yes/no...
[18:22] <devilchaos> lol ok no
[18:22] <canu-qumm> yo people, any channels you recommend?
[18:23] <maco> canu-qumm: uh...depends what you want to talk/learn about?
[18:23] <canu-qumm> erm.
[18:24] <maco> if you need help with C programming, ##C
[18:24] <maco> if you want to set up your own Diaspora pod, #diaspora
[18:24] <Ddpbf> canu-qumm: what kind of help you want?
[18:25] <Pici> #kubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-offtopic are nice for general chatter.
[18:27] <Ddpbf> i think he asked how to change colour of nicks in irssi
[18:27] <canu-qumm> oh, is it possible to join multiple chann-- nevermind.
[18:27] <Pici> oh
[18:27] <Ddpbf> hm
[18:27] <canu-qumm> wait, no tab opened, as if you were only able to connect to one channel.
[18:28] <Ddpbf> of cours
[18:28] <maco> canu-qumm: you're on irssi right?
[18:28] <maco> canu-qumm: /join #otherchannel
[18:28] <maco> canu-qumm: then alt+number changes between them
[18:28] <maco> when a number at the bottom highlights purple, someone's talking to you
[18:28] <maco> white bold is just people talking in general, if i remember right
[18:28] <canu-qumm> oh, i see..
[18:28] <Ddpbf> canu-qumm: alt+1, alt+2 etc
[18:28] <devilchaos>  ok folks thanks for the help bye for now if a dont see threw week al see you through the  window
[18:28] <Ddpbf> if you want to navigate channels
[18:29] <maco> numbers 11+ are on Q W E etc
[18:29] <maco> or whatever your top row is i guess
[18:29] <maco> n and p for next and previous
[18:29] <maco> a for active
[18:29] <maco> and if you have more than 20 channels, you can do   /win 32
[18:31] <Ddpbf> to quit channel /part #foo
[18:32] <Pici> There are docs on irssi.org and their support channel here is #irssi
[18:34] <canu-qumm> ok thanks
[18:37] <Ddpbf> somebod tried aki?
[18:37] <Ddpbf> *somebody
[18:38] <PythonSnake> are you sure that intel drivers are built-in ?
[18:38] <PythonSnake> o.o
[18:38] <Ddpbf> PythonSnake: yes i am
[18:39] <Ddpbf> unless you have gma 500
[18:39] <PythonSnake> cuz intel just eleased a new one..
[18:39] <PythonSnake> how to get it ?
[18:39] <Ddpbf> xorg-edgers
[18:39] <Ddpbf> add that ppa
[18:41] <Ddpbf> hm they also packaged kde-base workspace
[18:41] <Ddpbf> why they did it
[18:42] <Ddpbf> PythonSnake: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[18:43] <PythonSnake> sudo apt-get update ?
[18:44] <Ddpbf> of course
[18:44] <Ddpbf> and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:50] <canu-qumm> this is sort of confused
[18:53] <LINKSWORD2> Meanwhile....
[18:53] <canu-qumm> heh, i've been getting a lot of help at #irssi recently
[18:53]  * LINKSWORD2 quits
[19:04] <PythonSnake> ok thanks Dd
[19:04] <PythonSnake> too late
[19:04] <PythonSnake> :(
[19:17] <canu-qumm> hello again
[19:18] <canu-qumm> man, this theme looks amazingly minimalistic.
[19:18] <canu-qumm> although i guess irssi in general is already minimal
[19:20] <BluesKaj> canu-qumm, irssi is a terminal/cli application , not big on graphics
[19:26] <canu-qumm> ..
[19:37] <andeeeuk_> anyone here know any goo webcam apps for kubuntu?
[19:47] <rhox> hello, is there a special reason why the 32bit version is the recommended version of Kubuntu 11.04? I am just curious. (http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block)
[19:54] <canu-qumm> im using weechat now
[19:54] <canu-qumm> yep, totally looks like it.
[19:55] <canu-qumm> it runs on terminal though.
[20:10] <phulshof> Evening. :) Anyone willing and able to help me out with a Kubuntu 11.4 issue regarding tripple monitor setup?
[20:12] <phulshof> System settings - Size & Orientation somehow doesn't appear to be fully saved. It switched me from tripple clone to dual clone and a monitor to the right of it, but the tripple monitor setup (which works fine if I change it) doesn't want to survive a reboot.
[21:21] <asfyxia> @rhox, considering your question, I think that 32-bits is recommended because it's just a little more solid than 64-bits. E.g. Flash can be a problem in 64-bits. Depending on what you demand from your system ;-)
[23:00] <olskolirc> how can i change my desktop wallpaper to be different on each side please on natty
[23:06] <PythonSnake> olskolirc: each side ?
[23:07] <olskolirc> yes PythonSnake
[23:07] <PythonSnake> each side of what
[23:10]  * claydoh_ guesses virtual desktops - the sides of the cube
[23:12] <Cammy> It would be nice to have different wallpapers, GUI/Window themes, resolution and colour depth for each desktop
[23:12]  * claydoh_ can't remember how, as it isn't 100% obvious - involves mapping Desktop Activities to Virtual desktops
[23:12] <claydoh_> http://dohbuoy.wordpress.com/2011/04/16/kde-activities-and-virtual-desktops-and-the-cube/
[23:13] <claydoh_> lol  and I blogged about it, but couldn't remeber
[23:57] <dsheedy> when I do a $which wine  it says /usr/bin/wine, but when I try and run wine it says /usr/local/bin/wine no such fire or directory
[23:57] <dsheedy> path looks okay
[23:58] <dsheedy> oops