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GrueMaster | MrCurious: Natty uses gcc 4.5 which works. Oneiric uses 4.6 | 00:11 |
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MrCurious | gruemaster: ohhh, then thats not the cause of the 2x diff in usb speed between 10.10 and 11.04 | 01:03 |
GrueMaster | No, that is another issue. Not sure what, but it is another issue. | 01:04 |
GrueMaster | Possibly slightly related, but I don't know. | 01:04 |
MrCurious | ok, ty :D | 01:04 |
MrCurious | color me super-interested in that 2x speed issue | 01:04 |
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apw | ogra_: i hear your ti-omap4 kernel isn't good | 07:41 |
apw | infinity: ^^ | 07:43 |
infinity | apw: You hear correctly. | 07:43 |
infinity | apw: The gcc-4.6 versus USB fix isn't actually in the current kernel. | 07:44 |
apw | infinity: do we know that that is the one and only patch you need in oneiric, can can you confirm that we are using the 1309 kernel in the tests you did | 07:44 |
infinity | apw: (AIUI, it also affect omap3) | 07:44 |
apw | infinity: i thought omap3 was out of master, and the fix was already in ... let me check | 07:44 |
infinity | apw: We were testing with 1309, I can't confirm we don't need more fixes. :P | 07:44 |
apw | infinity: ok then i'll pull that one over and run you up a test build, are you able to inject that to test | 07:45 |
infinity | apw: Oh, I mean the bug affects omap3. I'm not sure if it's in the current omap3 kernels. I *know* that omap4 is broken (since I tested that myself) | 07:45 |
infinity | apw: I should be asleep (have been working on that for hours), but you might get an ogra awake soon. | 07:45 |
apw | infinity: i assume he has the h/w to test | 07:46 |
infinity | We all should. In theory. | 07:46 |
infinity | I hope he does. :P | 07:46 |
infinity | apw: Though, realistically, it can't get any MORE broken, so even a blind upload beats the current situation. (sadly) | 07:47 |
infinity | apw: Given that nearly anything of interest on the Panda is on the USB bus, a kernel with broken USB is effectively a dud. | 07:47 |
apw | it is a shame we didn't notice this before the freeze | 07:48 |
infinity | apw: Sorry we didn't notice this when it was uploaded, but it seems no one got around to updating -meta until very recently, so our dailies were happily using the old kernel. | 07:48 |
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apw | infinity: indeed, but that kernle is broken too | 07:48 |
infinity | (A great argument for making sure -meta is in lockstep...) | 07:48 |
apw | (apparently) | 07:48 |
infinity | No, the old kernel is fine, owing to it having been built with an older toolchain, I believe. | 07:49 |
infinity | (The source has the same bug, obviously, but the binaries are old enough to be unbroken) | 07:49 |
apw | bah what a mess | 07:49 |
* infinity nods. | 07:49 | |
infinity | No argument here. | 07:50 |
apw | infinity: in better news omap3 out of master looks to have the fix | 08:00 |
infinity | apw: Shiny. | 08:01 |
apw | ogra_: poke | 08:01 |
apw | infinity: if arm vendors were more open they'd not have this problem | 08:01 |
ogra_ | apw, gimme a sec, i dont have the recent image here | 08:02 |
* infinity finally wanders off to pass out. | 08:20 | |
infinity | apw, ogra_: Good luck with kernels. | 08:20 |
ogra_ | i'm confident all will be fine :) | 08:20 |
apw | ogra_: ok i am building an oneiric kernel with that one patch for you to test, i'll shout when its ready | 08:21 |
ogra_ | k | 08:22 |
apw | ogra_: i assume we have CDs for ti-omap4, so we'll need that respun, shall i warn the release team | 08:22 |
ogra_ | i'll do that, dont worry | 08:22 |
ogra_ | argh, why did resizing get so slow | 08:25 |
ogra_ | grr | 08:29 |
dmart | win 6 | 08:32 |
apw | ogra_: we simply have to start testing these images earlier. it takes 12 hours to build, we freeze the kernel friday before the milestone and we need to be testing then | 08:38 |
ogra_ | yeah | 08:39 |
ppisati | my mistake, i should have warned that the fix wasn't there (and was needed) | 08:39 |
ogra_ | we would have known if the meta would have been updated alongside | 08:39 |
apw | ogra_: but we should have noticed that sooner too | 08:39 |
ogra_ | we simply didnt notice the availability for two weeks | 08:39 |
apw | its not like the version number is a secret | 08:39 |
ogra_ | no, the timing was just bad i guess | 08:40 |
apw | of course it was my mistake that it was missing of course | 08:40 |
ogra_ | during the sprint everyone was focused on spec work and didnt check the archive | 08:40 |
ogra_ | apw, i'm not blaming you | 08:40 |
apw | having rally the week before a milestone was dumb too | 08:40 |
ogra_ | its as well our mistake, i usually monitor -changes for kernel and bootloader uplaods | 08:40 |
apw | ogra_: i am to blame for the meta missmatch, its a delayed action and easily missed annoyingly | 08:41 |
apw | yeah, i'll try and make sure i tell you as well | 08:41 |
apw | so we close the loop more effectivly | 08:41 |
ogra_ | we should merge meta and source probably | 08:41 |
ogra_ | or is the separation a safety thing ? | 08:41 |
apw | the separation is both a safety valve and a timing thing | 08:42 |
ogra_ | rebuild it every time, but only bump the deps if necessary | 08:42 |
apw | as you need the master linux-libc uploaded and built before | 08:42 |
apw | more obviusly needed for master where the i386 and your architecture need to be built before your kenel will install | 08:42 |
ogra_ | well, effectively it sits in NEW until manual intervention, -meta doesnt need linux-libc to build | 08:42 |
apw | and if it won't then apt loves to deinstall all your kernels | 08:43 |
apw | ogra_: well that might be true if they were in the same package | 08:43 |
apw | will put that on my list to investigate | 08:43 |
apw | for releases with lbm then it needs to be separate | 08:43 |
apw | though i do have a plan to make it have a dep so at least it can be uploaded and will drop to depwait | 08:44 |
ogra_ | well, there are surely bad things to find in that idea :) its just a thought | 08:44 |
ogra_ | without much background research | 08:44 |
apw | good thoughts indeed specially for these special arm branches | 08:44 |
* apw adds some actions for that | 08:44 | |
apw | ppisati: i can't really blame you for this milestone, never really talked to you about what matters for us and when the critical times are | 08:45 |
apw | ogra_: ok kernel to try in: http://people.canonical.com/~apw/ti-omap4-oneiric/ | 08:47 |
apw | ogra_: do we produce anything other than the headless images for omap4 ? | 08:48 |
ogra_ | headless is called server now | 08:52 |
ogra_ | and yes, we produce netboot and desktop too | 08:52 |
ogra_ | gra@panda:~$ uname -r | 09:01 |
ogra_ | 2.6.38-1309-omap4 | 09:01 |
ogra_ | ogra@panda:~$ lsusb | 09:01 |
ogra_ | Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub | 09:01 |
ogra_ | Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 09:01 |
ogra_ | Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0424:9514 Standard Microsystems Corp. | 09:01 |
ogra_ | Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:ec00 Standard Microsystems Corp. | 09:01 |
ogra_ | apw, ^^^ looks good | 09:01 |
ogra_ | ogra@panda:~$ ping ubuntu.com | 09:02 |
ogra_ | PING ubuntu.com (91.189.94.156) 56(84) bytes of data. | 09:02 |
ogra_ | NIC is there too | 09:02 |
ogra_ | apw, upload away i'd say | 09:02 |
apw | ogra_: seen this ever when bootstrapping an armel chroot ? | 09:21 |
apw | qemu: fatal: cp15 insn ee1d6f70 | 09:21 |
ogra_ | ouch | 09:21 |
ogra_ | nope, but i havent used chroots in a while | 09:21 |
ogra_ | looks serious though | 09:22 |
ogra_ | what release ? | 09:22 |
apw | making chroots on lucid, specifically making an oneiric chroot | 09:23 |
ogra_ | well, which qemu are you using there ? | 09:24 |
ogra_ | the linaro backports should work afaik | 09:24 |
apw | ogra_: that is a good question | 09:35 |
ogra_ | the shipped qemu in lucid definitely wasnt as good as the later linaro packages | 09:35 |
ogra_ | and iirc they provide PPA backports for all their releases | 09:36 |
apw | ogra_: ok that looks like a standard qemu version number to me, any idea where this PPA is ? | 09:37 |
ogra_ | not really | 09:38 |
* ogra_ checks | 09:38 | |
ogra_ | https://launchpad.net/qemu-linaro/+milestone/2011.06 | 09:40 |
ogra_ | hmm,. no PPA | 09:42 |
ogra_ | https://launchpad.net/~linaro- /+archive/tools/?field.series_filter=lucid | 09:42 |
ogra_ | there we go | 09:42 |
kunguz | what should be a proper bootcmd for X-loader to start ubuntu-arm | 10:08 |
sveinse | ogra_, rsalveti: I have an issue with rootstock. It seems the diversion of /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d isn't properly removed. Another script is trying to divert and it complains about the rootstock diversion to be in the way. However I read from the script that it does call dpkg-divert --remove --rename /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d | 12:31 |
sveinse | I even read "Removing 'local diversion of /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d to /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d.rootstock'" from the rootstock logs | 12:32 |
sveinse | But running dpkg-divert --list on the target it still lists /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d.rootstock as a diversion | 12:33 |
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phh | hey there, is it possible to access to the camera on OMAP4 from "normal" distributions, and if so, how ? | 16:37 |
phh | i'm trying with openmax ducati api, jut it just won't fill my buffers | 16:37 |
ogra_ | phh, probably #pandaboard might be better, there are also the TI hardware guys | 16:45 |
phh | bah, just when I ask i've got some progress, if i issue Flush command, it starts sending stuff to me ... | 16:47 |
phh | err, or not | 16:49 |
phh | yup, not. | 16:53 |
montamer | Hi guys ......... I have a query, Does anyone here tested ubuntu on pandaboard? Does ubuntu supported accelerated video codecs for omap4? | 17:56 |
GrueMaster | montamer: Yes. We have a natty build for panda, and you can install the accelerated graphics package as well. | 18:53 |
GrueMaster | See topic for links. | 18:53 |
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