astraljavaSo still no new images. What gives? Where does one ask after them?13:17
charlie-tcaIt is alpha2 testing, no new images during the testing days. New images should be out on Friday, but if you need a re-spin, ask in #ubuntu-release13:19
astraljavacharlie-tca: Ahh... okay then. But there were new ones for Xubuntu, at least for yesterday. We did not get images for 20110705 at all.13:20
charlie-tcaI don't see any for ubuntustudio for the 5th. Last spin for the testing is marked july 413:21
charlie-tcaare those not usable?13:22
* charlie-tca will push a re-spin if needed13:22
charlie-tcaXubuntu got new ones yesterday because I got pushy13:23
astraljavaThat's what I said, we didn't get any yesterday. And yeah, it failed on me for a vbox install.13:25
astraljavaAnd zsync just said it wasn't updated after I got it, so it looks like I'm pretty much screwed until new images are being spun.13:26
charlie-tcare-spinning now13:30
charlie-tcaGetting new images done now13:32
charlie-tcaastraljava: sorry, I should have looked at the date yesterday. I did look that the tracker had you in there13:33
astraljavacharlie-tca: Ooh, super! Thanks! :D13:45
astraljavacharlie-tca: Yeah I've been lacking in attention now, I'm like out of my comfort zone since all my regular machines are in the old apartment still. :)13:45
astraljavaYou know how it is, when you can't do your regular routines...13:46
astraljavaworkflow, was the word I was looking for, but instead had to settle for routine13:48
charlie-tcaThis is a big learning process, we will get you there13:51
charlie-tcaastraljava: images are ready now14:03
astraljavacharlie-tca: Excellent! Thanks!14:08
charlie-tcaastraljava: is the image working now?17:13
astraljavacharlie-tca: Haven't had time to test yet, but will fire vbox up in a few minutes, I'll let you know soon enough.17:16
astraljavacharlie-tca: Looks like it went past that stage now, so thank you _very_ much for re-spinning the discs!19:54
astraljavaerr... images.19:54
charlie-tcaYou are welcome19:54
charlie-tcaWe have to hope :)19:55
astraljavaDid you get the request through in #ubuntu-release, or where?20:00
astraljavaWell, now it fails in a much later stage, but still, good to have it done.20:01
astraljavain-target: gnome-panel: Breaks: libpanel-applet2-0 but 1:2.32.1-0ubuntu6.5 is to be installed20:02
astraljavain-target: liblash-compat-1: Breaks: lashd but 0.6.0~rc2-5build1 is to be installed20:03
charlie-tcaProbably did it in #ubuntu-release20:16
charlie-tcaI get kind of pushy when they don't respin and it isn't our fault20:17
astraljavaRight, for a reason too.20:17
charlie-tcaNow I have to file the installer bug, too. Ubuntu 386 alternate won't even boot on one computer here20:18
ubottuUbuntu bug 386 in Baz (deprecated) "change to removed files does not conflict" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38620:18
charlie-tcaworks on the other three20:18
astraljavaRight. I'll file the ones above.20:19
charlie-tcaMy installs are all on hardware here, so we will see what they do20:19
charlie-tcaso, you want me to select all the things or just the top one now?20:20
astraljavaWell, that's true. But I will of course state that these are on vbox. They can decide whether that's a problem or not.20:20
astraljavacharlie-tca: I always select them all, to get more coverage.20:20
charlie-tcaI don't what those things are, and I don't have any special audio/video stuff20:21
astraljavacharlie-tca: Shouldn't matter, isn't the point just to see whether the applications install at this point?20:21
charlie-tcaOkay, Picked all of them20:21
charlie-tcaAs long as they don't require any special cards or anything20:22
charlie-tcamythbuntu, for example, does require a tuner card to actually install20:22
astraljavaAhh... right.20:22
astraljavaI don't think that holds for studio, though.20:22
charlie-tcahm, you broke it20:23
astraljavaEvery machine ought to have all the required components.20:23
astraljavaDid I? *damn*20:23
astraljavaWhat did I do now?20:23
charlie-tcalooking at the logs to find out20:23
charlie-tcaThe following packages have unmet dependencies:20:25
charlie-tcagnome-panel : Breaks: libpanel-applet2-0 but 1:2.32.1-0ubuntu6.5 is to be installed20:25
charlie-tcaliblash-compat-1 : Breaks: lashd but 0.6.0~rc2-5build1 is to be installed20:25
charlie-tcaThere is the cause of the failure. It won't matter what is selected20:25
astraljavaI believed as much.20:25
charlie-tcaDid you file the bug yet?20:25
charlie-tcaOr should I?20:25
astraljavaSo, why is gnome-panel still being installed? It's going away anyhow?20:25
astraljavaNo I didn't. Wondering what to file it on.20:26
charlie-tcabecause it is still seeded?20:26
charlie-tcaI will file one, then. Against Ubiquity, of course20:26
astraljavaOkay. I'll check the code. It's about time to get involved with that.20:27
charlie-tcaand it is both images20:31
astraljavaWell, they come from the same seeds, don't they?20:37
astraljavaYup, there it is in the desktop file of the seed. *grumble*20:38
astraljavaBut wait, that's all over gnome. What the hell? What am I missing here?20:39
astraljavaRight, it hasn't been updated to accommodate Xubuntu at all. Or is it being used in the first place?20:42
charlie-tcaastraljava: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/80667220:43
ubottuUbuntu bug 806672 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "UbuntuStudio images for Oneiric Alpha2 fail to install" [Undecided,New]20:43
astraljavaOkay. Ubiquity is a weird beast for me. How do I find out which seeds it uses for installation?20:47
astraljavaWait a minute, Ubiquity? Isn't that the desktop installer?20:48
astraljavaI mean, not-the-alternate-installer?20:48
charlie-tcayes, I will change it to debian-installer20:52
charlie-tcabut it uses seeds that are decided here, probably scott 20:52
astraljavaYep. I'm a little behind on those issues, so I will wait for more acknowledged opinions on where to fix the seeds.20:54
charlie-tcatrying without any packages selected fails too20:55
charlie-tcaI notified skaet already, too20:56
charlie-tcaScottL should know about the seeds20:56
charlie-tcamaybe ailo_ too, and persia20:56
persiaIf using ubiquity, no seeds are used for installation: rather the contents of the live filesystem are simply copied.21:11
persiaThe live filesystem is constructed from tasks, and the tasks are created from seeds, but we'd see the issue with the live filesystem failing to build, rather than with a failure to install on some device.21:12
persiaWhen using the alternate images, as we tend to do, the installation is driven by tasks.21:12
astraljavapersia: Right. And tasks are defined where nowadays?21:13
persiaThe tasks are created from the seeds: our tasks should be created from https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.oneiric21:13
persiaI *think* tasks are defined in tasksel, but derived from the seeds.  Unless something drastic has changed, we shouldn't care except about the seeds.21:14
persiaIn this case, I suspect the desktop seed ( http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.oneiric/view/head:/desktop )21:14
astraljavaRight, so I was looking at the correct place.21:15
astraljavaAnd it seems the seed hasn't been updated to reflect the changing to Xubuntu base.21:15
persiaIt doesn't look very much like http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.oneiric/view/head:/desktop21:15
astraljavaNo point in Alpha-2 testing, then.21:15
persiaWell, could fix it.21:16
charlie-tcaWe have a few hours, if they can do the re-spin while armel is building21:16
persiaAh, it probably can't be fixed in that timeframe.21:17
charlie-tcaI have machines to test with21:17
persiaWould need a meta upload, a cron.germinate run, and then a rebuild.21:17
persiaAdding to seeds is quick.  Removing from them less so.21:18
persiaThat said, it's worth doing the work to fix it anyway, so that it's ready for next time.21:18
charlie-tcaWell, we did try to get this done21:18
* persia isn't quite sure which parts of "desktop" should match xubuntu, and which other bits are needed21:18
charlie-tcanot sure Xubuntu should even have the alpha2, at this point.21:18
astraljavaThat's the problem, I don't either. Cory has done some application-checking between what we had and what Xubuntu has, and I believe Scott participated. But I have no idea about any logs of such sessions.21:26

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