| astraljava | So still no new images. What gives? Where does one ask after them? | 13:17 |
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| charlie-tca | It is alpha2 testing, no new images during the testing days. New images should be out on Friday, but if you need a re-spin, ask in #ubuntu-release | 13:19 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Ahh... okay then. But there were new ones for Xubuntu, at least for yesterday. We did not get images for 20110705 at all. | 13:20 |
| charlie-tca | I don't see any for ubuntustudio for the 5th. Last spin for the testing is marked july 4 | 13:21 |
| charlie-tca | are those not usable? | 13:22 |
| * charlie-tca will push a re-spin if needed | 13:22 | |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu got new ones yesterday because I got pushy | 13:23 |
| astraljava | That's what I said, we didn't get any yesterday. And yeah, it failed on me for a vbox install. | 13:25 |
| astraljava | And zsync just said it wasn't updated after I got it, so it looks like I'm pretty much screwed until new images are being spun. | 13:26 |
| charlie-tca | re-spinning now | 13:30 |
| charlie-tca | Getting new images done now | 13:32 |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: sorry, I should have looked at the date yesterday. I did look that the tracker had you in there | 13:33 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Ooh, super! Thanks! :D | 13:45 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Yeah I've been lacking in attention now, I'm like out of my comfort zone since all my regular machines are in the old apartment still. :) | 13:45 |
| astraljava | You know how it is, when you can't do your regular routines... | 13:46 |
| astraljava | workflow, was the word I was looking for, but instead had to settle for routine | 13:48 |
| charlie-tca | np | 13:51 |
| charlie-tca | This is a big learning process, we will get you there | 13:51 |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: images are ready now | 14:03 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Excellent! Thanks! | 14:08 |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: is the image working now? | 17:13 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Haven't had time to test yet, but will fire vbox up in a few minutes, I'll let you know soon enough. | 17:16 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Looks like it went past that stage now, so thank you _very_ much for re-spinning the discs! | 19:54 |
| astraljava | err... images. | 19:54 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 19:54 |
| charlie-tca | We have to hope :) | 19:55 |
| astraljava | Did you get the request through in #ubuntu-release, or where? | 20:00 |
| astraljava | Well, now it fails in a much later stage, but still, good to have it done. | 20:01 |
| astraljava | in-target: gnome-panel: Breaks: libpanel-applet2-0 but 1:2.32.1-0ubuntu6.5 is to be installed | 20:02 |
| astraljava | in-target: liblash-compat-1: Breaks: lashd but 0.6.0~rc2-5build1 is to be installed | 20:03 |
| charlie-tca | Probably did it in #ubuntu-release | 20:16 |
| charlie-tca | I get kind of pushy when they don't respin and it isn't our fault | 20:17 |
| astraljava | Right, for a reason too. | 20:17 |
| charlie-tca | Now I have to file the installer bug, too. Ubuntu 386 alternate won't even boot on one computer here | 20:18 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 386 in Baz (deprecated) "change to removed files does not conflict" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/386 | 20:18 |
| charlie-tca | works on the other three | 20:18 |
| astraljava | Haha! | 20:18 |
| astraljava | Right. I'll file the ones above. | 20:19 |
| charlie-tca | Okay | 20:19 |
| charlie-tca | My installs are all on hardware here, so we will see what they do | 20:19 |
| charlie-tca | so, you want me to select all the things or just the top one now? | 20:20 |
| astraljava | Well, that's true. But I will of course state that these are on vbox. They can decide whether that's a problem or not. | 20:20 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: I always select them all, to get more coverage. | 20:20 |
| charlie-tca | I don't what those things are, and I don't have any special audio/video stuff | 20:21 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Shouldn't matter, isn't the point just to see whether the applications install at this point? | 20:21 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, Picked all of them | 20:21 |
| charlie-tca | As long as they don't require any special cards or anything | 20:22 |
| charlie-tca | mythbuntu, for example, does require a tuner card to actually install | 20:22 |
| astraljava | Ahh... right. | 20:22 |
| astraljava | I don't think that holds for studio, though. | 20:22 |
| charlie-tca | OkeyDokey | 20:22 |
| charlie-tca | hm, you broke it | 20:23 |
| astraljava | Every machine ought to have all the required components. | 20:23 |
| astraljava | Did I? *damn* | 20:23 |
| astraljava | What did I do now? | 20:23 |
| charlie-tca | looking at the logs to find out | 20:23 |
| charlie-tca | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 20:25 |
| charlie-tca | gnome-panel : Breaks: libpanel-applet2-0 but 1:2.32.1-0ubuntu6.5 is to be installed | 20:25 |
| charlie-tca | liblash-compat-1 : Breaks: lashd but 0.6.0~rc2-5build1 is to be installed | 20:25 |
| charlie-tca | There is the cause of the failure. It won't matter what is selected | 20:25 |
| astraljava | I believed as much. | 20:25 |
| charlie-tca | Did you file the bug yet? | 20:25 |
| charlie-tca | Or should I? | 20:25 |
| astraljava | So, why is gnome-panel still being installed? It's going away anyhow? | 20:25 |
| astraljava | No I didn't. Wondering what to file it on. | 20:26 |
| charlie-tca | because it is still seeded? | 20:26 |
| astraljava | Right. | 20:26 |
| charlie-tca | I will file one, then. Against Ubiquity, of course | 20:26 |
| astraljava | Okay. I'll check the code. It's about time to get involved with that. | 20:27 |
| charlie-tca | and it is both images | 20:31 |
| astraljava | Well, they come from the same seeds, don't they? | 20:37 |
| astraljava | Yup, there it is in the desktop file of the seed. *grumble* | 20:38 |
| astraljava | But wait, that's all over gnome. What the hell? What am I missing here? | 20:39 |
| astraljava | Right, it hasn't been updated to accommodate Xubuntu at all. Or is it being used in the first place? | 20:42 |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/806672 | 20:43 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 806672 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "UbuntuStudio images for Oneiric Alpha2 fail to install" [Undecided,New] | 20:43 |
| astraljava | Okay. Ubiquity is a weird beast for me. How do I find out which seeds it uses for installation? | 20:47 |
| astraljava | Wait a minute, Ubiquity? Isn't that the desktop installer? | 20:48 |
| astraljava | I mean, not-the-alternate-installer? | 20:48 |
| charlie-tca | crap | 20:52 |
| charlie-tca | yes, I will change it to debian-installer | 20:52 |
| charlie-tca | but it uses seeds that are decided here, probably scott | 20:52 |
| astraljava | Yep. I'm a little behind on those issues, so I will wait for more acknowledged opinions on where to fix the seeds. | 20:54 |
| charlie-tca | trying without any packages selected fails too | 20:55 |
| charlie-tca | I notified skaet already, too | 20:56 |
| charlie-tca | ScottL should know about the seeds | 20:56 |
| charlie-tca | maybe ailo_ too, and persia | 20:56 |
| persia | If using ubiquity, no seeds are used for installation: rather the contents of the live filesystem are simply copied. | 21:11 |
| persia | The live filesystem is constructed from tasks, and the tasks are created from seeds, but we'd see the issue with the live filesystem failing to build, rather than with a failure to install on some device. | 21:12 |
| persia | When using the alternate images, as we tend to do, the installation is driven by tasks. | 21:12 |
| astraljava | persia: Right. And tasks are defined where nowadays? | 21:13 |
| persia | The tasks are created from the seeds: our tasks should be created from https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.oneiric | 21:13 |
| persia | I *think* tasks are defined in tasksel, but derived from the seeds. Unless something drastic has changed, we shouldn't care except about the seeds. | 21:14 |
| persia | In this case, I suspect the desktop seed ( http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.oneiric/view/head:/desktop ) | 21:14 |
| astraljava | Right, so I was looking at the correct place. | 21:15 |
| astraljava | And it seems the seed hasn't been updated to reflect the changing to Xubuntu base. | 21:15 |
| persia | It doesn't look very much like http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.oneiric/view/head:/desktop | 21:15 |
| persia | Indeed. | 21:15 |
| astraljava | No point in Alpha-2 testing, then. | 21:15 |
| persia | Well, could fix it. | 21:16 |
| charlie-tca | Can? | 21:16 |
| persia | Sure. | 21:16 |
| charlie-tca | We have a few hours, if they can do the re-spin while armel is building | 21:16 |
| persia | Ah, it probably can't be fixed in that timeframe. | 21:17 |
| charlie-tca | I have machines to test with | 21:17 |
| persia | Would need a meta upload, a cron.germinate run, and then a rebuild. | 21:17 |
| persia | Adding to seeds is quick. Removing from them less so. | 21:18 |
| persia | That said, it's worth doing the work to fix it anyway, so that it's ready for next time. | 21:18 |
| charlie-tca | Well, we did try to get this done | 21:18 |
| * persia isn't quite sure which parts of "desktop" should match xubuntu, and which other bits are needed | 21:18 | |
| charlie-tca | not sure Xubuntu should even have the alpha2, at this point. | 21:18 |
| astraljava | That's the problem, I don't either. Cory has done some application-checking between what we had and what Xubuntu has, and I believe Scott participated. But I have no idea about any logs of such sessions. | 21:26 |
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