highvoltage | stgraber: not sure if you've seen http://lwn.net/Articles/450543 | 12:32 |
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stgraber | highvoltage: didn't see the lwn article but I saw the announcement | 12:33 |
highvoltage | stgraber: yeah I was more refering to the contents of the links they posted (the feedback on project Harmony) | 12:40 |
BroMac | hello People | 14:22 |
BroMac | :)) | 14:22 |
BroMac | I have a questions | 14:22 |
BroMac | Are the terminals need a good graphics card? | 14:23 |
BroMac | Are the terminals instead of just a decent graphics card on the server? | 14:23 |
highvoltage | BroMac: hey there | 15:04 |
BroMac | hello | 15:04 |
highvoltage | BroMac: I think you sent an email to the edubuntu contact form too, been meaning to respond :) | 15:04 |
highvoltage | BroMac: the server doesn't need a good display card (could even technically work without one), you will want good display cards on the terminals | 15:05 |
highvoltage | (or at least reasonable ones that are supported, they don't have to be very fancy for day to day work) | 15:05 |
BroMac | ok thanks | 15:06 |
BroMac | Here, I give a description of what I want to do: | 15:06 |
BroMac | I'm trying to create a multimedia reading room in the Library. Ultimately, for each client thought about limiting a link to a 10mbit or 100mbit. | 15:07 |
BroMac | Terminal is to be a total of about 25 with make + / - 10 | 15:07 |
BroMac | These terminals are designed only for Internet + openoffice. All media such as youtube blocked. Flashblock plugin in Firefox. In addition, the printer hooked up. | 15:07 |
BroMac | Since half a year I test four position terminal at 100mbit network. I am pleased with them. The server is: Core 2 Duo E7200, 2GB RAM, GPU: Asus TC512/TD/256M/A. Operate efficiently, quickly. There is no frames effect when scrolling browser | 15:07 |
BroMac | I can purchase a server and 25 terminals. However, it must be new hardware only. | 15:07 |
highvoltage | really important part is to make sure there's not a network bottlenetck | 15:08 |
highvoltage | you'll want at least one (but preferably two) gigabit connections between your server and your switch | 15:08 |
highvoltage | other than that having fast disks and plenty of ram is a good idea. 2GB will be too little for 25 clients, but at least RAM is relatively cheap these days | 15:09 |
highvoltage | I'd suggest at least 8GB RAM | 15:09 |
BroMac | this is only my test server | 15:09 |
BroMac | I planning buy: | 15:10 |
BroMac | 2 sas hdd egb 146gb in raid1 | 15:10 |
BroMac | 16 GB RAM | 15:10 |
BroMac | and processor xeon | 15:10 |
highvoltage | that should work really well | 15:11 |
BroMac | myn switch have load balancing :)) | 15:11 |
BroMac | that I can put 2 or more connections | 15:11 |
highvoltage | nice | 15:12 |
BroMac | So terminals should have: core2duo, 1gb ram and graphic cards | 15:13 |
highvoltage | before buying the clients I just suggest you get one for testing first and test that the hardware works fine | 15:13 |
highvoltage | the specs for the clients you're mentioning is really good, intel cards are usually a good bet | 15:13 |
highvoltage | (for display chips) | 15:14 |
BroMac | Unfortunately, but probably purchase will be made as "public order" and I have to buy skates at one time. Of course, in the purchase specification will note: "The offered equipment must be compatible with ubuntu" | 15:15 |
highvoltage | ok great | 15:16 |
BroMac | I'll be protected from potential problems with compatibility :)) | 15:16 |
highvoltage | at least most onboard chips are intel and it's been a while since I've seen new equipment with really bad (like geode or s3 chrome) chipsets | 15:17 |
BroMac | I work as an administrator and I have different computers and servers. Indeed, with Intel does not have any compatibility problem | 15:20 |
BroMac | Where I can find good list of hardware compatible with ubuntu? | 15:21 |
BroMac | goo list | 15:21 |
BroMac | good list | 15:21 |
BroMac | http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/release/10.04%20LTS | 15:22 |
BroMac | linuxhcl.com or other? | 15:22 |
highvoltage | I think http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog is quite useful but it's taking long to load here atm so I'm not sure if it's currently working | 15:24 |
highvoltage | (then again my internet is quite slow atm in general) | 15:25 |
stgraber | highvoltage: loads fine on this side of the ocean ;) | 15:26 |
BroMac | I have 20 mbit UP and IN :)) | 15:26 |
BroMac | guaranted | 15:26 |
stgraber | well, at the moment I'm at my parents place, so it's 100Mb/30Mb and around 10ms to the Canonical DC :) | 15:27 |
BroMac | If I can ask it where are you from? | 15:27 |
BroMac | I'm from Poland | 15:28 |
* highvoltage has to share 10mbit with about 20 other people | 15:28 | |
* highvoltage wants it all to himself *mhuahhahaa* | 15:29 | |
BroMac | :))) | 15:29 |
stgraber | BroMac: Switzerland at the moment. I usually live in Canada though | 15:29 |
stgraber | and I'm usually part of the 20 other people sharing highvoltage's work connection ;) | 15:30 |
BroMac | ^^ | 15:30 |
BroMac | SoGuys thank you very much for your help. I am a little relieved as <highvoltage> stressed several times that I want to buy good equipment:)) a little afraid of this. | 15:31 |
BroMac | Very thanks :)) | 15:32 |
highvoltage | at least you have it specified that it has to work well with Ubuntu :) | 15:32 |
highvoltage | and feel free to drop buy if you run in to any problems | 15:32 |
highvoltage | sometimes we take a while to respond but we're pretty much always here | 15:32 |
BroMac | I will try to share information on how to begin to operate terminals. But this is only for 1 or 2 months | 15:33 |
BroMac | when I buy and configured servers | 15:35 |
BroMac | server* | 15:35 |
BroMac | Good bye | 15:36 |
tl1000s77 | Hello everyone | 15:42 |
tl1000s77 | got a quick questions for the ltsp guru's | 15:42 |
tl1000s77 | Is there a way I can change the way the thin client behaves when a user enters their password incorrectly at login? | 15:43 |
tl1000s77 | What is happening is the thin client reboots if a user enters a wrong password just once. | 15:43 |
highvoltage | tl1000s77: that's currently a sore point in LDM (LTSP's login manager) | 15:45 |
highvoltage | tl1000s77: there's no current fix for that unfortunately but there's a hackfest planned for LTSP in October where I'm sure it will be brought up again | 15:46 |
tl1000s77 | highvoltage: so is the short answer no? lol | 15:46 |
highvoltage | tl1000s77: unfortunately so, yes | 15:46 |
highvoltage | tl1000s77: the problem is basically that LDM doesn't currently have a way of knowing why the user was denied. did the user not exist? was the password wrong? did the user expire? so when a user is denied it just restarts | 15:47 |
highvoltage | (bbl - lunch) | 15:47 |
tl1000s77 | Thank you :-) | 15:47 |
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highvoltage | stgraber: so... is alpha2 released? | 17:48 |
stgraber | highvoltage: yep | 17:52 |
stgraber | highvoltage: signed off yesterday, freeze lifted this morning (european time) and Kate sent the anouncements when she woke up (eastern time) | 17:52 |
stgraber | highvoltage: probably one of the smoothest alpha yet, only had 1 rebuild I think | 17:52 |
highvoltage | that's really a big contrast with the alpha 2 of last time :) | 17:56 |
stgraber | indeed :) | 17:58 |
highvoltage | will you be able to post a release announcement? | 18:03 |
stgraber | I could but I probably won't, there isn't really anything new. | 18:08 |
stgraber | so for now I think the main release anouncement pointing to www.edubuntu.org for more info on the project is probably enough | 18:08 |
highvoltage | yep | 18:14 |
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