[12:32] <highvoltage> stgraber: not sure if you've seen http://lwn.net/Articles/450543
[12:33] <stgraber> highvoltage: didn't see the lwn article but I saw the announcement
[12:40] <highvoltage> stgraber: yeah I was more refering to the contents of the links they posted (the feedback on project Harmony)
[14:22] <BroMac> hello People
[14:22] <BroMac> :))
[14:22] <BroMac> I have a questions
[14:23] <BroMac> Are the terminals need a good graphics card?
[14:23] <BroMac> Are the terminals instead of just a decent graphics card on the server?
[15:04] <highvoltage> BroMac: hey there
[15:04] <BroMac> hello
[15:04] <highvoltage> BroMac: I think you sent an email to the edubuntu contact form too, been meaning to respond :)
[15:05] <highvoltage> BroMac: the server doesn't need a good display card (could even technically work without one), you will want good display cards on the terminals
[15:05] <highvoltage> (or at least reasonable ones that are supported, they don't have to be very fancy for day to day work)
[15:06] <BroMac> ok thanks
[15:06] <BroMac> Here, I give a description of what I want to do:
[15:07] <BroMac> I'm trying to create a multimedia reading room in the Library. Ultimately, for each client thought about limiting a link to a 10mbit or 100mbit.
[15:07] <BroMac> Terminal is to be a total of about 25 with make + / - 10
[15:07] <BroMac> These terminals are designed only for Internet + openoffice. All media such as youtube blocked. Flashblock plugin in Firefox. In addition, the printer hooked up.
[15:07] <BroMac> Since half a year I test four position terminal at 100mbit network. I am pleased with them. The server is: Core 2 Duo E7200, 2GB RAM, GPU: Asus TC512/TD/256M/A. Operate efficiently, quickly. There is no frames effect when scrolling browser
[15:07] <BroMac> I can purchase a server and 25 terminals. However, it must be new hardware only.
[15:08] <highvoltage> really important part is to make sure there's not a network bottlenetck
[15:08] <highvoltage> you'll want at least one (but preferably two) gigabit connections between your server and your switch
[15:09] <highvoltage> other than that having fast disks and plenty of ram is a good idea. 2GB will be too little for 25 clients, but at least RAM is relatively cheap these days
[15:09] <highvoltage> I'd suggest at least 8GB RAM
[15:09] <BroMac> this is only my test server
[15:10] <BroMac> I planning buy:
[15:10] <BroMac> 2 sas hdd egb 146gb in raid1
[15:10] <BroMac> 16 GB RAM
[15:10] <BroMac> and processor xeon
[15:11] <highvoltage> that should work really well
[15:11] <BroMac> myn switch have load balancing :))
[15:11] <BroMac> that I can put 2 or more connections
[15:12] <highvoltage> nice
[15:13] <BroMac> So terminals should have: core2duo, 1gb ram and graphic cards
[15:13] <highvoltage> before buying the clients I just suggest you get one for testing first and test that the hardware works fine
[15:13] <highvoltage> the specs for the clients you're mentioning is really good, intel cards are usually a good bet
[15:14] <highvoltage> (for display chips)
[15:15] <BroMac> Unfortunately, but probably purchase will be made ​​as "public order" and I have to buy skates at one time. Of course, in the purchase specification will note: "The offered equipment must be compatible with ubuntu"
[15:16] <highvoltage> ok great
[15:16] <BroMac> I'll be protected from potential problems with compatibility :))
[15:17] <highvoltage> at least most onboard chips are intel and it's been a while since I've seen new equipment with really bad (like geode or s3 chrome) chipsets
[15:20] <BroMac> I work as an administrator and I have different computers and servers. Indeed, with Intel does not have any compatibility problem
[15:21] <BroMac> Where I can find good list of hardware compatible with ubuntu?
[15:21] <BroMac> goo list
[15:21] <BroMac> good list
[15:22] <BroMac> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/release/10.04%20LTS
[15:22] <BroMac> linuxhcl.com or other?
[15:24] <highvoltage> I think http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog is quite useful but it's taking long to load here atm so I'm not sure if it's currently working
[15:25] <highvoltage> (then again my internet is quite slow atm in general)
[15:26] <stgraber> highvoltage: loads fine on this side of the ocean ;)
[15:26] <BroMac> I have 20 mbit UP and IN :))
[15:26] <BroMac> guaranted
[15:27] <stgraber> well, at the moment I'm at my parents place, so it's 100Mb/30Mb and around 10ms to the Canonical DC :)
[15:27] <BroMac> If I can ask it where are you from?
[15:28] <BroMac> I'm from Poland
[15:28]  * highvoltage has to share 10mbit with about 20 other people
[15:29]  * highvoltage wants it all to himself *mhuahhahaa*
[15:29] <BroMac> :)))
[15:29] <stgraber> BroMac: Switzerland at the moment. I usually live in Canada though
[15:30] <stgraber> and I'm usually part of the 20 other people sharing highvoltage's work connection ;)
[15:30] <BroMac> ^^
[15:31] <BroMac> SoGuys thank you very much for your help. I am a little relieved as <highvoltage> stressed several times that I want to buy good equipment:)) a little afraid of this.
[15:32] <BroMac> Very thanks :))
[15:32] <highvoltage> at least you have it specified that it has to work well with Ubuntu :)
[15:32] <highvoltage> and feel free to drop buy if you run in to any problems
[15:32] <highvoltage> sometimes we take a while to respond but we're pretty much always here
[15:33] <BroMac> I will try to share information on how to begin to operate terminals. But this is only for 1 or 2 months
[15:35] <BroMac> when I buy and configured servers
[15:35] <BroMac> server*
[15:36] <BroMac> Good bye
[15:42] <tl1000s77> Hello everyone
[15:42] <tl1000s77> got a quick questions for the ltsp guru's
[15:43] <tl1000s77> Is there a way I can change the way the thin client behaves when a user enters their password incorrectly at login?
[15:43] <tl1000s77> What is happening is the thin client reboots if a user enters a wrong password just once.
[15:45] <highvoltage> tl1000s77: that's currently a sore point in LDM (LTSP's login manager)
[15:46] <highvoltage> tl1000s77: there's no current fix for that unfortunately but there's a hackfest planned for LTSP in October where I'm sure it will be brought up again
[15:46] <tl1000s77> highvoltage: so is the short answer no? lol
[15:46] <highvoltage> tl1000s77: unfortunately so, yes
[15:47] <highvoltage> tl1000s77: the problem is basically that LDM doesn't currently have a way of knowing why the user was denied. did the user not exist? was the password wrong? did the user expire? so when a user is denied it just restarts
[15:47] <highvoltage> (bbl - lunch)
[15:47] <tl1000s77> Thank you :-)
[17:48] <highvoltage> stgraber: so... is alpha2 released?
[17:52] <stgraber> highvoltage: yep
[17:52] <stgraber> highvoltage: signed off yesterday, freeze lifted this morning (european time) and Kate sent the anouncements when she woke up (eastern time)
[17:52] <stgraber> highvoltage: probably one of the smoothest alpha yet, only had 1 rebuild I think
[17:56] <highvoltage> that's really a big contrast with the alpha 2 of last time :)
[17:58] <stgraber> indeed :)
[18:03] <highvoltage> will you be able to post a release announcement?
[18:08] <stgraber> I could but I probably won't, there isn't really anything new.
[18:08] <stgraber> so for now I think the main release anouncement pointing to www.edubuntu.org for more info on the project is probably enough
[18:14] <highvoltage> yep