[08:12] <bambee> morning
[08:27] <Quintasan> Good morning.
[08:27] <Quintasan> My plan almost succeeded
[08:27] <Quintasan> It turns out the best time for me to go to bed is 23ish
[08:27] <Quintasan> But I failed getting out of the bed
[08:27] <Quintasan> Any suggestions for forcing myself out of bed?
[08:39] <bambee> ohhh god... http://paste.ubuntu.com/639329/  :\
[08:42] <bambee> Quintasan: a girl friend? a lan with friends ? :P
[08:42] <Quintasan> That's not enough to force me out of bed unfortunately
[08:43] <Quintasan> I seems like automatic splash of ice-cold water would be good
[08:43] <bambee> mhhhh
[08:47] <apachelogger> ehm
[08:48] <apachelogger> bambee: I dunno how it is for your, but when someone is in bed with me that actually provides reasons for not getting out of bed before doing other things
[08:51]  * Quintasan tries not to kill himself when packaging qyoto
[08:53] <bambee> apachelogger: I was talking about a girl friend who is not in bed with him of course! (assuming he has a rendezvous with her today, it would be a reason to getting out of bed)
[08:53] <apachelogger> do we haz freeze yet?
[08:54] <apachelogger> bambee: now that just made me go :O
[08:54] <apachelogger> didn't understand that at all :P
[08:54] <apachelogger> Quintasan: do we haz freeze?
[08:54] <Quintasan> Apparently.
[08:55] <apachelogger> apparently?
[08:55] <apachelogger>   Alpha 2 is scheduled for July 7th, so we'll be freezing for the
[08:55] <apachelogger> release on 0600 UTC on July 5th.
[08:55] <apachelogger> G
[08:55] <apachelogger> oh
[08:55] <apachelogger> it is thursday already? :O
[08:55]  * apachelogger blinks
[08:56] <apachelogger> somehow I seem to have missed a day
[08:59] <Quintasan> OH FUCK you qyoto
[08:59] <Quintasan> Failing at 97%
[09:00] <Quintasan> apachelogger: If that tarball is missing files then somebody gets a beatin'
[09:00]  * apachelogger prepares fists
[09:00] <apachelogger> Quintasan: is kdenetwork patche dyet?
[09:01] <bambee> If I find an unsafe missing symbol, how do I bump the soname?
[09:01] <apachelogger> bambee: where did you find that?
[09:02] <bambee> apachelogger: libplasmaclock4abi1 but I am not sure, let me check something
[09:02] <apachelogger> yofel: pingo
[09:04] <bambee> apachelogger: Plasma::Calandar => public constructor has changed + missing public method "applyConfigurationInterface()"
[09:04] <Quintasan> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/92641
[09:04] <Quintasan> Any idea?
[09:05] <apachelogger> bambee: I'd check with #plasma whether they want to undo this breakage
[09:05] <apachelogger> otherwise: /usr/share/doc/pkg-kde-tools/README.DebianABIManager
[09:05] <bambee> ok
[09:05] <apachelogger> abimanager can take care of the sobump for you
[09:06] <apachelogger> Quintasan: find the dll
[09:07] <Quintasan> apachelogger: It's not there
[09:07] <apachelogger> no
[09:07] <apachelogger> find it
[09:07] <apachelogger> like in the whole tree
[09:07] <apachelogger> perhaps it is in a different dir
[09:07] <apachelogger> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[09:07] <apachelogger> -- The following OPTIONAL packages could NOT be located on your system.
[09:07] <apachelogger> -- Consider installing them to enable more features from this software.
[09:07] <apachelogger> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[09:07] <apachelogger>    * C# compiler  <http://www.mono-project.com>
[09:07] <apachelogger>      Mono or the .NET framework
[09:07] <apachelogger>      Required to compile the C# bindings
[09:07] <apachelogger>    * QScintilla2  <http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/qscintilla/intro>
[09:07] <apachelogger>      QScintilla2 libraries
[09:07] <apachelogger>      Needed to compile QScintilla2 bindings
[09:07] <apachelogger>    * QImageBlitz  <http://www.kde.org>
[09:07] <apachelogger>      QImageBlitz library
[09:07] <apachelogger>      Needed to compile QImageBlitz bindings
[09:07] <apachelogger> there you go
[09:07] <Quintasan> Enoguh
[09:08] <apachelogger> kthxbai
[09:08] <Quintasan> typoday--
[09:08] <apachelogger> yofel: syn
[09:08] <apachelogger> yofel: syn
[09:08] <apachelogger> yofel: syn
[09:08] <apachelogger> yofel: syn
[09:08] <apachelogger> yofel: syn
[09:08] <apachelogger> he never is around when I need him :P
[09:10] <Quintasan> No, you are not around when he is here :P
[09:13] <apachelogger> yes I am
[09:14] <apachelogger> his aroundness is only a subset of my aroundness
[09:15] <Quintasan> Then your aroundness is subset of my aroundness
[09:21] <apachelogger> nah
[09:33] <Quintasan> BOOYAH
[09:33] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/92665
[09:33] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ^ any idea where first two binaries should go?
[09:33] <Quintasan> Rest of that looks like -dev stuff to me
[09:34] <yofel> apachelogger: pong
[09:34] <shadeslayer> ubottu says it goes into dev
[09:34] <Quintasan> \o/
[09:34] <shadeslayer> oh, hey everyone
[09:34] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: binaries too?
[09:35] <shadeslayer> yofel: thanks for fixing those epochs
[09:35] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yes
[09:35] <yofel> yw
[09:35] <shadeslayer> !find bin/csrcc
[09:35] <apachelogger> yofel: nvm, autoresolved :P
[09:35] <apachelogger> yofel: prepare a blog :P
[09:36] <apachelogger> Quintasan: uics is surely a qt designer file compiler
[09:36] <apachelogger> headers go to dev definitely
[09:37] <apachelogger> the libs if they are actually symlinks
[09:37] <shadeslayer> ^^
[09:37] <apachelogger> the dll's go to dev IIRC
[09:37] <Quintasan> Strangely enough, the binaries are in -dev but they are still in list-missing
[09:37] <apachelogger> pkgconfig is defnitely dev material, so is cmake stuff
[09:37] <apachelogger> key.snk probably needs looking into though
[09:38] <apachelogger> Quintasan: perhaps they were mangled ^^
[09:38] <apachelogger> do we ahve a better list-missing yet?
[09:38] <apachelogger> or do I really have to write my own codez
[09:38] <Quintasan> Nope, I remember that you were to rewrite it
[09:38] <Quintasan> It's pkg-binary-mangler that does that strange thing?
[09:39] <shadeslayer> why not use dh_install --list-missing? or is that worse than what we have right now?
[09:39] <apachelogger> any dh script can mangle
[09:39] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: worse
[09:39] <Quintasan> lol noshit
[09:39] <apachelogger> like dh_installman mangles them too
[09:39] <apachelogger> by gzipping
[09:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: VERBOSE=1
[09:39] <Quintasan> GRRR
[09:39] <apachelogger> which is also a case where the cdbs list missing falls over
[09:39] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: wut?
[09:39] <bambee> apachelogger: libplasmaclock, libtaskmanager, libsolidcontrol, libsolidcontrolifaces, libkwineffects   require a SONAME change
[09:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: can you explain why it's worse?
[09:40] <Quintasan> LOL
[09:40] <apachelogger> oh yeah, abimanager bump then
[09:40] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/92677 <- qyoto-dev.install
[09:40] <bambee> :)
[09:40] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: cause it runs at dh_install time
[09:40] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/92683
[09:40] <Quintasan> list-missing
[09:41] <Quintasan> wtf
[09:41] <Quintasan> inb4 qyoto-dev is not in control
[09:41] <shadeslayer> ah
[09:41] <apachelogger> lulz
[09:41] <shadeslayer> heh
[09:41] <apachelogger> well then
[09:42] <apachelogger> what do we need to do for list missing?
[09:42] <yofel> apachelogger: blog post for what?
[09:42]  * yofel continues with kopypackages
[09:42] <apachelogger> yofel: how we packaged rc1 and are awesome and stuff
[09:42] <yofel> uh... okay...
[09:42] <shadeslayer> we're done with RC1?
[09:42] <apachelogger> no
[09:42] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: finish kturtle
[09:42] <shadeslayer> yeah doing that
[09:43] <Quintasan> apachelogger: key.snk looks like some binary to me
[09:43] <shadeslayer> question, how do i fix svgpart ? the uploaded version was 4.6.90-0ubuntu2 ?
[09:44] <apachelogger> well
[09:44] <apachelogger> it has no epoch
[09:44] <shadeslayer> should i upload 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu2+ppa1 ?
[09:44] <apachelogger> meaning you can just upload :P
[09:44] <Quintasan> Y U NO INSTALL QYOTO-DEV?
[09:44] <apachelogger> no, you should upload the proper epoch 0ubuntu1~ppa1
[09:44] <yofel> shadeslayer: just use 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa1 ?
[09:44] <shadeslayer> will try
[09:44] <shadeslayer> ( again )
[09:45] <yofel> ^^
[09:45] <shadeslayer> i tried it last night, but for some reason it kept toppling over
[09:47] <apachelogger> Quintasan: you could try dh_listmissing.pl
[09:48] <Quintasan> !file dh_listmissing.pl
[09:48] <Quintasan> !find dh_listmissing.pl
[09:48]  * Quintasan has no idea what's that
[09:49] <Quintasan> qyoto-dev.install is there
[09:49] <Quintasan> control has qyoto-dev entry
[09:51] <Quintasan> Oh I see
[09:51] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/92695
[09:51] <Quintasan> gac/* should gtfo of qyoto-dev
[09:53] <Quintasan> AHA
[09:53] <Quintasan> oh wait
[09:54] <Quintasan> apachelogger: that shit was in not-installed in kdebindings
[09:54] <Quintasan> solves everything
[09:57] <shadeslayer> ubottu: botsnack
[09:58] <shadeslayer> hmm .. is launchpad down?
[09:59] <Quintasan> I give up
[09:59] <yofel> not for me
[09:59] <Quintasan> yofel: Pushing qyoto
[10:00] <yofel> thou are supreme
[10:01] <bambee> I need to change "soname" into symbols file too, I guess?
[10:01] <Quintasan> yofel: Though those fcking not-installed files are driving me crazy
[10:02] <Quintasan> Is there a way to make list-missing shut the !@#$ up about files in not-installed file?
[10:02] <yofel> only by patching it, since dh_install ignores them
[10:02] <yofel> the cdbs and dhmk list-missing targets do use not-installed
[10:02] <Quintasan> k
[10:02] <Quintasan> Then I shall not care
[10:03] <yofel> bambee: no idea, but where exactly do you want to do that?
[10:03] <Quintasan> Throw bricks at me if something was broken
[10:04] <Quintasan> ONLY 4 PACKAGES LEFT!
[10:04] <Quintasan> apart from kde-l10n
[10:05] <Quintasan> :/
[10:05] <yofel> oh right
[10:05] <yofel> apachelogger: fix your l10n magic
[10:05] <apachelogger> fix?
[10:05] <yofel> iirc it copies some kdebase* files around
[10:06] <apachelogger> you mean fix ubuntu's braindead way of doing l10n?
[10:06] <Quintasan> yofel: Disregard that, I moved some kimono files inside qyoto by accident
[10:06] <yofel> no, not that, you magic l10n scripts
[10:06] <yofel> Quintasan: how that o.O
[10:06] <apachelogger> 	# These are not split in svn but are split in release tars, so copy svn file to also cover release tar file
[10:06] <apachelogger> 	-cp messages/kdebase/desktop_kdebase.po messages/kdebase/desktop_kdebase-runtime.po
[10:06] <apachelogger> 	-cp messages/kdebase/desktop_kdebase.po messages/kdebase/desktop_kdebase-workspace.po
[10:06] <apachelogger> 	-cp messages/kdepim/desktop_kdepim.po messages/kdepim/desktop_kdepim-runtime.po
[10:07] <apachelogger> it always creeps me out
[10:07] <Quintasan> yofel: I must have somehow copied them over
[10:08] <yofel> well, now that the tars are split you can probably just dump that
[10:08] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/92713/
[10:08] <Quintasan> Can someone sane tell that all these install files are actually part of qyoto?
[10:09] <apachelogger> wut?
[10:10] <apachelogger> 	# Fetch kdepim 4.4.5 translations
[10:10] <apachelogger> 	cd messages; \
[10:10] <apachelogger> 		svn export svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/tags/KDE/4.4.5/kde-l10n/${LANGCODE}/messages/kdepim/; \
[10:10] <apachelogger> 	cd ..;
[10:10] <apachelogger> you got to be kidding moi
[10:11] <Quintasan> Okay, rest looks okay
[10:11] <Quintasan> yofel: repushing now
[10:12] <Quintasan> E: qyoto source: version-substvar-for-external-package kio-monodoc -> libkimono4.1-cil
[10:12] <Quintasan> fuck
[10:13] <Quintasan> (= ${binary:Version})
[10:13] <Quintasan> It should be 4:4.6.90 now?
[10:14] <yofel> why are you even touching libkimono4.1-cil in qyoto?
[10:14] <Quintasan> Depends:
[10:15] <Quintasan> libqyoto4.5-cil (= ${binary:Version}), libkimono4.1-cil (= ${binary:Version}), ${cli:Depends},
[10:15] <Quintasan>  ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}
[10:15] <Quintasan> for libnepomuk2.2-cil
[10:15] <Quintasan> nbm
[10:16] <Quintasan> typoday--
[10:16] <Quintasan> That shit is not even there
[10:16] <yofel> I somehow get the feeling nepomuk doesn't belong into a Qt package...
[10:17]  * Quintasan looks at source and removes install files which are not there
[10:18] <bambee> yofel: kde-workspace
[10:18] <bambee> yofel: all these libraries have an ABI breakage
[10:18] <yofel> bambee: I meant which file, I'm no expert at abimanager
[10:20] <bambee> libkwineffect1abi1.symbols, I need to rename it to libkwineffect1abi2.symbols (X-Debian-ABI was bumped from 1 to 2). Should I rename the soname into libkwineffect1abi2.symbols too? 
[10:22] <yofel>  libkwineffect1abi2.symbols isn't the SO name, but you should rename the package and the package files
[10:22] <bambee> I know, actually the soname is "libkwineffects.so.1abi1"
[10:23] <Quintasan> yofel: I removed everything that depends on kimono from qyoto, wonder if I will get more missing files
[10:23] <yofel> I would say rename everything that has that name, I'm not sure either
[10:26] <Quintasan> huh
[10:26] <Quintasan> now it doesnt build some files
[10:27] <Quintasan> ...
[10:27]  * Quintasan adds that shit back
[10:28] <CIA-52> [kde-l10n-common] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707102823-7u02i1nq42l2buvx * debian/ (changelog rules) Enable easy switching between stable and unstable translations
[10:29] <CIA-52> [kde-l10n-common] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707102920-957g95q1k1ty39wc * debian/rules tabs ftw
[10:31] <CIA-52> [kde-l10n-common] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707103145-r439j6c3dpkufn3l * debian/ (changelog rules) Make module desktop fetching more robust by trying to step into every element within the messages directory and if successful try to svn export a related desktop file
[10:32] <CIA-52> [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Philip Muškovac * 108 * bin/kopypackages Add kopypackages a script to copy source packages from one PPA to another
[10:32] <yofel> I am supreme
[10:33] <yofel> bb in ~30m
[10:34] <CIA-52> [kde-l10n-common] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707103418-c50ndstqd1s4aodu * debian/ (changelog rules) Make kdepim l10n fetching its own target
[10:35] <Quintasan> yofel: No fffing idea
[10:35] <Quintasan> It fails to build without that kimono and nepomuk magic inside
[10:36] <CIA-52> [kde-l10n-common] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707103600-kbrhg76wuwe32f9h * debian/ (build-l10n.sh changelog rules) Update build script for new branch name
[10:36] <Quintasan> I removed them and lolwut
[10:37] <CIA-52> [kde-l10n-common] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707103714-t3cwfnvhbewdmm79 * debian/ (build-l10n.sh changelog) Update build script to use ftpmaster rather than ktown
[10:37] <CIA-52> [kde-l10n-common] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707103718-4pnyv477clx8n3or * debian/build-l10n.sh whoops, forgot to update the branch url itself
[10:38] <Quintasan> fuck this
[10:39] <shadeslayer> kturtle : DONE
[10:39] <Quintasan> no sane rules on how to build this shit
[10:40] <Quintasan> everything gets done by some fkck black magic which breaks
[10:40] <CIA-52> [kde-l10n-common] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707104025-xm4jbiefa772ain4 * debian/ (build-l10n.sh changelog rules) Introduce new get-l10n target which is called by the build script and depends on all other targets that need execution to get l10n
[10:42] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kturtle] Rohan Garg * 1 * (10 files in 3 dirs) Initial packaging for kturtle
[10:43] <shadeslayer> fffffffuuuuuu damn epoch's
[10:45] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kturtle] Rohan Garg * 2 * debian/control * Fix build dep epoch
[10:48] <CIA-52> [kturtle] Rohan Garg * 3 * debian/control Add versioned Breaks/Replaces
[10:57] <Quintasan> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/92725
[10:58] <apachelogger> Quintasan: yes?
[10:59] <shadeslayer> yay, license nightmare
[10:59] <bambee> do you prefer abi breakage nightmare ? :D
[10:59] <shadeslayer> can't be worse than license nightmare
[11:01] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Isn't that somehow relevant to listmissing magic?
[11:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/92731 << didn't work
[11:03] <apachelogger> Quintasan: it is the implementation :P
[11:03] <apachelogger> the one our hook uses
[11:03] <Quintasan> :/
[11:05]  * apachelogger beats shadeslayer with a stick
[11:05] <yofel> finally home again
[11:06] <yofel> shadeslayer: bump to ppa2, forgot about that
[11:07]  * shadeslayer tries
[11:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: y u so sadist
[11:08] <apachelogger> svgpart (4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu1~ppa1) oneiric; urgency=low
[11:08] <shadeslayer> i've fixed the epoch
[11:08] <apachelogger> dont see it int he ppaz
[11:08] <shadeslayer> svgpart (4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu1~ppa2) oneiric; urgency=low
[11:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: because its not accepting my upload
[11:09] <yofel> apachelogger: you don't readz pastebinz, upload failed
[11:09] <apachelogger> sure
[11:09] <apachelogger> it sez shit already exists
[11:09] <apachelogger> so naturally shit should exist
[11:09] <apachelogger> yet it does not
[11:09] <apachelogger> file a bug
[11:09] <shadeslayer> it does, i deleted it last night
[11:10] <shadeslayer> i saved the tarballs first tho
[11:10]  * apachelogger notes that it is entirely possible that shadeslayer simply did dput the wrong changes file
[11:10] <shadeslayer> nope
[11:10] <shadeslayer> wohoo [PPA kubuntu-ninjas] [ubuntu/oneiric] svgpart 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu1~ppa2 (Accepted)
[11:11] <yofel> nah, the epoch has no effect on the files, I got that error too before
[11:11] <apachelogger> point being
[11:11] <apachelogger> if you delete stuff
[11:11] <shadeslayer> yeah, i was a bit surprised to see that the source.changes file is called 4.6.90
[11:11] <apachelogger> it should be deleted
[11:11] <shadeslayer> agreed ^^
[11:11] <apachelogger> if it is not deleting stuff than the feature should not be flipping delete
[11:11] <shadeslayer> completely removed from disk etc
[11:11] <yofel> *shrug*, make the janitor run more than like every 24h
[11:14] <Quintasan> how about we drop kdebindings/*
[11:14] <Quintasan> ?
[11:15] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/92737
[11:15] <Quintasan> What the fuck?
[11:18] <shadeslayer> fun
[11:19] <Quintasan> just look at the fucking rules for kdebindings
[11:19] <shadeslayer> no thanks :P
[11:20] <yofel> poke the debian folks, maybe they have someone that plans to maintain the mono stuff
[11:21] <shadeslayer> i wonder if people *actually* use kde bindings or are they just for show
[11:22] <shadeslayer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QS0q3mGPGg
[11:22] <yofel> considering MoDaX only wants to maintain python, I would say latter
[11:23] <yofel> hm, looking at the dep breakage on upgrade it seems kdenetwork is all that's left
[11:23] <yofel> Quintasan: ^
[11:25] <yofel> oh nice, got response for kdesdk, symbol comes back :)
[11:28] <apachelogger> Quintasan: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=3M5744-ND
[11:28] <Quintasan> apachelogger: What is that?
[11:28] <apachelogger> a usb touchscreen
[11:29] <apachelogger> well, you can make it usb ^^
[11:29] <Quintasan> Why would I want that?
[11:29] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[11:29] <Quintasan> yofel: Well it builds but it has a missing symbol :S
[11:30] <yofel> still no response on that?
[11:31] <yofel> well, then upgrade test #1 goes with removing kdenetwork
[11:31] <apachelogger> ?
[11:31] <apachelogger> just patch the flipping function in
[11:36] <Quintasan> [13:34:48] <svuorela> the kdebindings debian/rules file is pure evil
[11:36] <Quintasan> [13:35:20] <svuorela> I wrote it :)
[11:36] <Quintasan> :S
[11:36] <apachelogger> lol
[11:36] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[11:37] <yofel> yeah, fun discussion you're having over in #debian-qt-kde ^^
[11:38] <shadeslayer> yeah, i just had a look at the file being discussed
[11:38] <shadeslayer> pure evil it is
[11:42] <yofel> bambee: please fix:
[11:42] <yofel> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdm_4%3a4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa3_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[11:42] <yofel>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/circles/circles.xml', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-wallpapers 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu4
[11:43] <bambee> arrff :\
[11:44] <Quintasan> yofel: see #debian-qt-kde
[11:44] <yofel> well, I don't get it *either*
[11:45] <Quintasan> yofel: and you want me to package that shit?
[11:45] <Quintasan> :S
[11:45] <yofel> hey, I didn't think it was *that* insane yesterday
[11:45] <yofel> well, I hoped it wouldn't be
[11:45]  * Quintasan laughs madly
[11:46] <Quintasan> yofel: I don't really want to disappoint you but it's fucking insane
[11:46] <Quintasan> As in
[11:47] <Quintasan> even more insane than apachelogger
[11:47] <yofel> well, I realized that by now... *sorry*
[11:47] <yofel> lol
[11:47] <Quintasan> And you know it's hard to achieve
[11:47] <yofel> hehehe
[11:48] <Quintasan> Right, I should play some games to debrain myself
[11:49] <yofel> y'know
[11:49] <bambee> yofel: it's already into "Replace" , I just need to add it into "Breaks", right? (for << 4:4.6.90)
[11:49] <yofel> bambee: where did you add that, kdm?
[11:49] <bambee> yes
[11:50] <yofel> hm, if it had Replaces this shouldn't have broken...
[11:50] <yofel> well, add Breaks anyway
[11:50] <yofel> file movement is Breaks/Replaces
[11:50] <yofel> bambee: and why did you add a version?
[11:50] <yofel> kdebase* is completely removed
[11:51] <yofel> shoudn't make a difference here I guess though
[11:51] <bambee> yofel: it was already here
[11:52] <apachelogger> yofel: imagine the package got reintroduced
[11:52] <bambee> "kdebase-workspace-wallpapers (<< 4:4.5.80)"
[11:52] <apachelogger> funfunfun
[11:52] <yofel> true, shouldn't happen though I hope, or I'll throw bricks at the KDE folks
[11:54] <yofel> bambee: make sure breaks/replaces have the right version then
[11:54] <yofel> at least this was the only error I got, except...
[11:54] <bambee> wait until ~ppa4
[11:54] <yofel> having kdewallpapers AND kde-wallpapers is fooey
[11:54] <bambee> (I will upload it)
[11:55] <tazz> *sigh* python... it takes up all my time. And i thought, i would have enough time left to helpout with kubuntu packaging :-/
[11:55] <yofel> tazz: PLEEENTTYYYYYY left
[11:56] <shadeslayer> ^^
[11:56] <tazz> yofel: i know, i just thought that by this time, i would have accomplished a lot more.
[11:56] <yofel> then stop talking and get to work :P
[11:57] <tazz> ok
[11:57] <tazz> :(
[11:57]  * yofel pats tazz on the shoulder
[11:57] <yofel> we're all just overworked here -.-
[11:57] <yofel> *headdesk*
[11:57]  * yofel messed up the kdesdk version
[12:12] <yofel> shadeslayer: you uploaded kturtle to natty....
[12:15] <shadeslayer> wat
[12:15] <shadeslayer> ppa2?
[12:15] <yofel> yep
[12:16] <shadeslayer> this signals the time when i should switch to oneiric
[12:16] <yofel> sounds good ^^
[12:16] <shadeslayer> as soon as i buy my new laptop :P
[12:16] <yofel> ...
[12:16] <shadeslayer> which is in a week or sth after my mid term eval
[12:17] <shadeslayer> google-chrome--
[12:20] <yofel> ?
[12:21]  * apachelogger just ordered himself some class 10 cards
[12:21]  * bambee will be crazy with these FUC*$$**!!!@@ symbols 
[12:21] <shadeslayer> yofel: stupid chrome + p3a lp bug
[12:21] <yofel> hmpf
[12:22]  * yofel pats bambee on the shoulders now
[12:22] <yofel> we all had to go through that...
[12:23] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdesdk] Philip Muškovac * 136 * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Add patch so the missing symbol comes back
[12:23] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdesdk] Philip Muškovac * 137 * debian/changelog Add missing changelog entry
[12:23] <bambee> yofel: I've renamed the symbols files, changes the soname into these files, and there are still missing symbols o_O
[12:24] <bambee> (I've also drop "#MISSING" lines)
[12:24] <yofel> fun, isn't it...
[12:25] <yofel> kdesdk: DONE
[12:25] <shadeslayer> fixed kturtle
[12:26] <bambee> aaah !! "@ABI_4_1"
[12:26] <bambee> (X-Debian-ABI is now equals to "2")
[12:26] <bambee> so the @ABI has changed xD
[12:28]  * bambee starts up the chain saw and runs around naked
[12:32] <yofel> even more fun
[12:32] <yofel> < lunch break
[12:33] <apachelogger> :D
[12:33] <apachelogger> bambee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8szWccJvb4
[12:34] <bambee> apachelogger: when I rename libtaskmanager4abi1 to libtaskmanager4abi2, I will also rename its symbols file. Should I create a new symbol file or update it ? (all previous symbols won't be found )
[12:34] <apachelogger> create a new one and dump the old one
[12:34] <bambee> ok
[12:34] <apachelogger> since you bumped the soname it does not matter whatever symbols it had earlier
[12:36] <bambee> apachelogger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8szWccJvb4 => lool
[12:37] <apachelogger> very much reminded me of you just now :P
[12:37] <apachelogger> or you reminded me of it
[12:37] <apachelogger> something like that anyway
[12:38] <Quintasan> aaa
[12:44] <lool> I'm not on that video
[12:44] <bambee> lool: oh sorry 
[12:44] <bambee> I mean "lol"
[12:44] <bambee> or loool
[13:34] <yofel> 4.6.5 released
[13:48]  * yofel makes an attempt on perlqt
[13:52] <yofel> Quintasan: I get the feeling using the debian abi manager for kopete would be easier than waiting for them whether they want to keep BC or not...
[13:54] <Quintasan> yofel: I'll handle it today
[13:54] <Quintasan> yofel: see #kde-devel
[13:54] <yofel> saw it
[13:57]  * Quintasan looks for a beer
[13:58]  * bambee orders a beer for Quintasan
[13:58] <yofel> kubotu: order beer for Quintasan
[13:58]  * kubotu gives Quintasan a nice frosty mug of beer.
[13:58] <bambee> kubotu: be useful and give a beer to Quintasan now !!!
[13:59]  * yofel goes looking for glass of wine
[13:59] <yofel> out of beer here
[13:59]  * yofel looks at bindings packaging and wonders why exactly he wanted to do perlqt...
[14:00] <yofel> then again, since smoke is licenseless the bindings can't be uploaded to the archive anyway
[14:04] <yofel> uh...
[14:04] <yofel> can it be that we never shipped the perl bindings?
[14:13]  * yofel dumps perl and does 4.6.5 instead
[14:33] <Quintasan> I would !#$%#$ing drop bindings alltogether and only keep what Debian does (ie. Python)
[14:33] <Quintasan> maybe Ruby
[14:34] <yofel> well, at least there's no real hurry to get them done
[14:34] <yofel> kde-workspace, kdenetwork and rocs have a higher priority
[14:34] <yofel> bambee: how far are you?
[14:35] <bambee> yofel: kde-workspace uploaded into kubuntu-ninjas
[14:35] <bambee> it should be built now
[14:35] <bambee> (~ppa4)
[14:36] <yofel> ah true
[14:36] <yofel> can you propose another merge? or update the old one?
[14:36] <bambee> sure
[14:36] <yofel> well probably need to rebuild the rdeps
[14:37] <yofel> *we'll
[14:37] <yofel> typoday--
[14:46] <bambee> pushed
[14:47]  * txwikinger hates natty
[14:47] <txwikinger> maybe it is time to downgrade back to maverick
[14:48] <didrocks> fregl: hey, FYI, gtk made a lot of changes recently on the a11y stack (http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+). Removing gail mainly. I think it won't impact you, apart from the signal for the gnome platform to enable/disable a11y (what you haven't done yet IIRC)?
[14:48] <fregl> didrocks: ah, they implemented the signal? great
[14:49] <fregl> I did implement that stuff but it's not reviewed and I don't like the way it's currently done too much
[14:50] <didrocks> fregl: I didn't follow that closely, but maybe http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2011-June/msg00001.html can give you a hint on the recent changes made?
[14:51] <fregl> didrocks: well, I saw them active in their a11y channel, so I'm loosely following what's going on...
[14:52] <didrocks> fregl: oh nice, I just wanted to give you a head's up in case it wasn't the case, but as you are already on top of it… :-)
[14:52] <bambee> yofel: https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace/+merge/67059
[14:52] <apachelogger> Quintasan: what parts of bindings would be dropped then?
[14:52] <yofel> bambee: already found it, I'll look at it in a minute
[14:53] <bambee> yofel: take your time, there's no hurry :)
[14:53] <Quintasan> apachelogger: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=626860#17
[14:53] <yofel> bambee: I would argue against that :P (true for the branch though)
[14:55] <Quintasan> apachelogger: In case you didn't notice, see comment by MoDaX
[14:57] <yofel> bambee: can you add the changelog entry you dropped back please? we don't drop RELEASED changelog entries
[14:57] <yofel> bambee: also, the Vcs links are still wrong
[14:58] <bambee> yofel: it's not the right diff
[14:58] <bambee> o_O
[14:58] <bambee> wtf?
[14:58] <yofel> hm, let me try something
[14:59] <bambee> normally everything should be fixed
[14:59] <yofel> bambee: I resubmitted the proposal, that should help ^^
[14:59] <bambee> ok
[15:01] <yofel> better :)
[15:06] <apachelogger> Quintasan: so?
[15:06] <apachelogger> what he is saying is what we are doing right now
[15:06] <yofel> bambee: ack, good job :)
[15:06] <bambee> thanks ;)
[15:06] <Quintasan> (which won't 
[15:06] <Quintasan> include mono bindings)
[15:06] <Quintasan> SUP?
[15:07] <bambee> it's not trivial to bump kde-workspace (mostly to ABI management, and conflict handling)
[15:07] <bambee> :\
[15:07] <bambee> (however it's an important package... right)
[15:08] <yofel> bambee: well, worspace is one of the most work intensive packages. Good job at getting it done
[15:08] <bambee> hehe ;)
[15:08] <apachelogger> Quintasan: I guess upstream disagrees with him?
[15:08] <apachelogger> also not a first
[15:08] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Should I care?
[15:09] <yofel> well, IMO we want to have the bindings. I don't believe the bindings to be 4.7 blockers though
[15:10] <apachelogger> Quintasan: about what?
[15:10] <Quintasan> about upstream disagreeing with him
[15:10] <Quintasan> We will most likely include them, won't we?
[15:10] <apachelogger> well, you should not care about uneducated comments on non-upstream bug trackers
[15:10] <apachelogger> Quintasan: if the mono team cares to package them
[15:11] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 507 * debian/ (95 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream development release
[15:11] <yofel> bambee: merged
[15:11] <bambee> thanks
[15:12] <yofel> bah, missed a mistake
[15:12] <yofel> you dropped the project in the Vcs links
[15:12] <yofel> It's ~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace, not ~kubuntu-packagers/kde-workspace
[15:13] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 508 * debian/control fix Vcs links
[15:14] <rbelem> apachelogger, my pandaboard arrived yesterday :-D
[15:14] <rbelem> Riddell, ^ 
[15:14] <rbelem> \o/
[15:14] <Riddell> rbelem: yay, mind and make good use of it
[15:15] <rbelem> thanks Riddell 
[15:15] <rbelem> :-)
[15:17] <Riddell> and write a blog to say thanks to canonical
[15:29] <rbelem> oki :-)
[15:51] <Quintasan> yofel: <CIA-86> lvsouza * r1240336 kopete/trunk/KDE/kdenetwork/kopete/libkopete/ (3 files): Deprecate some symbols.
[15:51] <Quintasan> \o/
[15:51] <yofel> :D
[15:56] <Quintasan> kde rev 1240337
[15:57] <Quintasan> yofel: cherry-picking and uploading
[15:57] <yofel> what licenses are missing in okular?
[15:58]  * yofel tries to fix libkdeedu
[15:58] <Quintasan> *shrug* no idea
[15:58] <yofel> I'll look at it then
[16:00]  * yofel repacks libkdeedu again...
[16:03] <shadeslayer> could someone explain to me what a amd64+mac build of the ISO is?
[16:03] <yofel> the isos for the newer intel macs, but with EFI stuff etc. I think
[16:04] <shadeslayer> they now have specialized builds for Intel mac's?
[16:05]  * yofel douses lava onto dep-5
[16:05] <yofel> maybe throwing it into a lava pool is more effective though
[16:06] <shadeslayer> you mean a java pool
[16:07] <Quintasan> lol
[16:07] <shadeslayer> i bet apachelogger has been in the java pool, we could surely learn from his experience 
[16:07] <Quintasan> yofel: qyoto fucking done
[16:07] <Quintasan> yofel: You'd better start doing kimono
[16:08] <yofel> shadeslayer: make apachelogger write a dep-5 validator using java then
[16:08] <Quintasan> or better
[16:08] <Quintasan> make apachelogger do it
[16:08] <shadeslayer> oh that would be fun
[16:08] <yofel> that would be increadibly usefull now
[16:08] <shadeslayer> yeah
[16:08] <Quintasan> since apachelogger says there is no fun in here
[16:08] <shadeslayer> yofel: i did find a dep 5 validator
[16:08] <shadeslayer> but it was based on a outdated spec
[16:09] <yofel> bah
[16:09] <Quintasan> invalid validator?
[16:09] <Quintasan> duh
[16:09] <shadeslayer> outdated validator
[16:09] <yofel> but make him write it in java, knowing him he'll do it in ruby
[16:09] <Quintasan> :D
[16:09] <Quintasan> ...
[16:09] <Quintasan> Ruby makes it even worse
[16:09] <shadeslayer> or python
[16:09] <yofel> nah, he hates python
[16:09]  * Quintasan throws bricks at shadeslayer
[16:09] <Quintasan> no pyth0rnz in here
[16:10] <shadeslayer> yay, more bricks for my house
[16:10] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i'm actually learning some pyth0rnz
[16:10] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (changelog copyright) Fix copyrights
[16:10]  * Quintasan gets a box of matches
[16:10] <yofel> learn bash too
[16:10] <yofel> \o/
[16:10] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Beware of matches
[16:10] <Quintasan> Warm beer = bad beer
[16:11] <shadeslayer> Bricks are flammable? 
[16:11] <yofel> shadeslayer: tell me when you're done learning pyth0rn, you'll be responsible for script writing for kubuntu and neon then
[16:11] <Quintasan> +1
[16:11] <shadeslayer> well, most of the things i've done till now are using dbus :P
[16:11] <yofel> oh, learn the LPlib API while you're at it
[16:11] <Quintasan> also shadeslayer why don't you do our printer stuff c++ port instead some derp GSoC?
[16:12] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: well, because Ubuntu didn't get it
[16:12] <shadeslayer> *in
[16:12] <shadeslayer> i can have a look at it later on sometime
[16:12] <yofel> well, his project does sound useful
[16:12] <shadeslayer> no idea when
[16:13] <yofel> tell me when you can sync kalendar and google calendar ^^
[16:13] <yofel> er, korganizer was that
[16:13] <shadeslayer> sure it does, up until the point the dbus server topples over and goes kaput
[16:13] <yofel> bwahahaha
[16:13] <shadeslayer> yofel: Google SyncML only supports Contacts
[16:13] <yofel> :(
[16:13] <shadeslayer> you could use memotoo
[16:14] <shadeslayer> which supports *everything* ... but thats not the same is it :P
[16:14] <yofel> ok, here I come okular...
[16:16] <yofel> great, I've been seeing dep-5 so much these days that I find it more readable than the older stuff now...
[16:16] <shadeslayer> lol
[16:19] <yofel> hm, the only thing that's missing is a copy of the LGPL-2
[16:19] <yofel> easy to fix
[16:19] <yofel> ah wait, GFDL-1.2 too
[16:21] <shadeslayer> yofel: oh btw, a very easy way to use syncML would be to setup the server on your thinkpad, and since it already uses akonadi as a backend, no need for google etc
[16:21] <shadeslayer> then point any other devices to the server -> Profit
[16:21] <yofel> hm, sounds interesting
[16:23] <yofel> Quintasan: can you repack okular to include COPYING.DOC and COPYING.LIB please?
[16:24]  * yofel doesn't want to do marble :((
[16:44] <Quintasan> :/
[16:44] <Quintasan> FTBFS in kdenetwork
[16:47] <yofel> huh? didn't that build before?
[16:47] <Quintasan> It did
[16:48] <yofel> or is it your patch?
[16:48] <Quintasan> but I backported the damn symbols
[16:48] <Quintasan> it fails at totally different file
[16:49] <jjesse> just did a do-release-upgrade  -d on my vm and had no problems after reboot, great jobs :)
[16:51] <yofel> for oneiric? we didn't break that yet so no surprise ^^
[16:51] <shadeslayer> means we're not causing enough borkage
[16:51] <Quintasan> ../../../../kopete/protocols/gadu/gadupubdir.cpp:250:73: error: call of overloaded 'protocolIcon()' is ambiguous
[16:51] <Quintasan> fuck
[16:51] <shadeslayer> wth
[16:51] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: complain to upstream
[16:54] <apachelogger> did you pathc it yet?
[16:54] <Quintasan> apachelogger: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1240337
[16:54] <Quintasan> I patched in that
[16:55] <jjesse> yofel:  yes for oneric
[16:55] <jjesse> went natty -> oneric w/ no problems on my vm
[16:56] <yofel> well, at least, we'll probably get 4.7 in after alpha2
[16:56] <nixternal> quit dreaming!
[16:56] <yofel> then help :P
[16:56] <nixternal> for what?
[16:57] <nixternal> i did help for 5+ years, i think i did my duty
[16:57] <yofel> true too, doesn't help us at the moment though -.-
[16:57] <shadeslayer> it's like KDE 4.0 all over again :P
[16:57] <nixternal> the way i was treated doesn't help me either
[16:57] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: AAHAHAHAHAHA
[16:57] <Quintasan> You must be kidding me?
[16:58] <nixternal> and obviously it isn't helping kubuntu either
[16:58] <Quintasan> More like Qt point release being BIC
[16:58] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: it's worse? i can't imagine it being worse
[16:58] <Quintasan> SUP WE BROKE BC SO YOU HAVE TO REBUILD EVERYTHING
[16:59] <shadeslayer> WE ALSO DIDN'T INCLUDE PROPER COPYRIGHTS
[16:59]  * yofel hugs nixternal
[16:59] <yofel> you did do a great job in the past ;)
[16:59] <yofel> WHO CARES ABOUT COPYRIGHTS?
[17:00] <yofel> we've got PPA's!
[17:00] <yofel> er wait, they need copyrights too -.-
[17:00]  * yofel starts to cry
[17:00] <shadeslayer> The Ubuntu Archive Admins ... etc etc
[17:01]  * shadeslayer is behind on loads of stuff
[17:01] <apachelogger> Quintasan: haha, lol
[17:01] <apachelogger> this is one fun patch
[17:01] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Hm?
[17:02] <apachelogger>         QPixmap protocolIcon(const KIconLoader::StdSizes size = KIconLoader::SizeSmall) const;
[17:02] <apachelogger> 5 lines down
[17:02] <apachelogger>         KDE_DEPRECATED QPixmap protocolIcon() const;
[17:02] <apachelogger> way to go
[17:02] <Quintasan> It breaks the build
[17:02] <Quintasan> I know
[17:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: heh yeah
[17:03]  * apachelogger fixes
[17:10] <CIA-52> [kopete] sitter * 1240352 * trunk/KDE/kdenetwork/kopete/libkopete/ (kopeteonlinestatus.cpp kopeteonlinestatus.h) fix building. by overloading protocolIcon(size) with protocolIcon(), former must not have a default value anymore but it should be implemented through latter.
[17:13] <apachelogger> Quintasan: try that
[17:13] <CIA-52> [kopete] sitter * 1240355 * branches/KDE/4.7/kdenetwork/kopete/libkopete/ (kopeteonlinestatus.cpp kopeteonlinestatus.h) backport r1240352 fix building. by overloading protocolIcon(size) with protocolIcon(), former must not have a default value anymore but it should be implemented through latter.
[17:13] <apachelogger> like now
[17:13] <apachelogger> right now
[17:13] <apachelogger> quickly now, I am almost asleep
[17:15] <yofel> WHUT? It's like 7pm...
[17:16] <Quintasan> apachelogger: lol
[17:16] <Quintasan> k
[17:16] <apachelogger> yofel: I am now a glib hacker
[17:16] <yofel> how did that happen...
[17:17] <shadeslayer> glib makes you sleep? 
[17:17] <yofel> yeah, it calls sleep() and goes into an endless loop
[17:17] <shadeslayer> also known as death()
[17:18] <Quintasan> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/93013
[17:18] <Quintasan> here is what Lamarque sent me
[17:18] <yofel> shadeslayer: kturtle is still wrong
[17:18] <shadeslayer> oh, whats the problem?
[17:19]  * Quintasan bets it's something trivial
[17:19] <yofel> hm, or is it? what version is it supposed to be?
[17:19] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Which one should I use? :O
[17:19] <apachelogger> glib
[17:19] <apachelogger> mine
[17:19] <apachelogger> glib
[17:19] <shadeslayer> 4:4.6.90 i'd suppose
[17:19] <apachelogger> my glib
[17:19] <apachelogger> obviously
[17:19] <yofel> ppa1 or 2 ?
[17:20] <shadeslayer> ppa2
[17:20] <apachelogger> Quintasan: also that change is nothing but silly in the paste
[17:20] <yofel> k, you uploaded that to natty, not oneiric
[17:20] <apachelogger> doesnt resolve the issue at all, but work around it, funfunfun
[17:20] <shadeslayer> oh, did my last upload topple
[17:20] <shadeslayer> because i went out shortly after uploading it
[17:20] <Quintasan> apachelogger: You're getting some bricks thrown at you if it doesnt work
[17:20] <yofel> shadeslayer: dunno, see https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages
[17:20] <apachelogger> .......
[17:20] <shadeslayer> yeah looking
[17:21] <apachelogger> you are chitchatting so much everyone else would have test built it already
[17:21] <shadeslayer> yeah
[17:21] <shadeslayer> hold on
[17:23] <yofel> how's rocs btw.?
[17:24] <shadeslayer> sorting out licensing
[17:24] <yofel> :)
[17:24] <shadeslayer> then have to triple check for epoch mistakes
[17:25] <shadeslayer> oh, i most probably won't be around for the weekend
[17:29] <Python> Hi
[17:29] <Quintasan> Python: hello
[17:30] <apachelogger> Oo
[17:30] <Python> how to check my kernel version
[17:30] <Python> what's the latest one
[17:30] <yofel> Python: uname -r
[17:30] <yofel> depends on the release you're running
[17:30] <Python> 11.04
[17:30] <Quintasan> Python: #kubuntu is the channel for support
[17:30] <Quintasan> but you want uname -r as yofel said
[17:31] <shadeslayer> yofel: had to upload ppa3 because ppa2 was already in natty
[17:31] <Quintasan> also, he scared the shit out of Harald :S
[17:31] <shadeslayer> heh
[17:31] <yofel> shadeslayer: huh? and that failed?
[17:31] <shadeslayer> yofel: yeah, no idea why
[17:32] <shadeslayer> lp works in mysterious ways
[17:32] <yofel> true
[17:32] <Python> thanks
[17:32] <Python> is krusader discontinued ?
[17:32] <Quintasan> No.
[17:33] <Quintasan> Krusader 2.4.0-beta1 was released 2011-06-26
[17:34] <Quintasan> someone invite apachelogger back
[17:36] <Python> how to remove ark ?
[17:37] <shadeslayer> Python: please ask these questions in #kubuntu
[17:41] <WayneBlackmon> Is there a way to copyright my linux distrobution for free or does the GNU license do that for me?
[17:42] <tsimpson> copyright and license are different things
[17:43] <WayneBlackmon> OK.
[17:43] <WayneBlackmon> Do I need to copyright my distro?
[17:44] <shadeslayer> \o/ http://paste.kde.org/93031 Missing files
[17:44] <tsimpson> you copyright the code, a distro is just a group of software
[17:44] <shadeslayer> i'm going to bed now, cya tomorrow :)
[17:44] <WayneBlackmon> OK. Well is there a way to copyright the code for free?
[17:44] <yofel> gn shadeslayer
[17:44] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: You must be kidding me
[17:44] <tsimpson> WayneBlackmon: copyright doesn't cost anything
[17:44] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Finish that black magic firsst
[17:45] <WayneBlackmon> Oh - thanks. I didn't realize that.
[17:45] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: too tired, will wake up in another 5-6 hours and finish it
[17:45] <Quintasan> >5-6 hours
[17:45] <yofel> shadeslayer: yeah, which means we're stuck with 4.7 on you for 5-6h
[17:45] <shadeslayer> i'm the only one left?
[17:45] <Quintasan> Even kdenetwork is almost done
[17:45] <Quintasan> bleh I even did qyoto
[17:46] <yofel> pretty much, except bindings
[17:46] <shadeslayer> perlkde?
[17:46] <Quintasan> and those are not showstoppers
[17:46] <yofel> I'm doing perlqt
[17:46] <shadeslayer> ah ok, i can try and finish this then
[17:48] <yofel> bah, need to rebuild parley
[17:48] <shadeslayer> hmm ... should i make a rocs-dev package?
[17:48] <shadeslayer> because that sounds weird
[17:48] <yofel> IIRC that's all in not-installed, so don't bother
[17:48] <shadeslayer> ah makes sens
[17:49] <shadeslayer> *sense
[18:09] <yofel> perlqt is fun too http://paste.kde.org/93061
[18:12] <WayneBlackmon> Does anyone know of a global spell check package?
[18:12] <Quintasan> WayneBlackmon: #kubuntu for general support
[18:13] <WayneBlackmon> Well I'm sorry, I was actually looking for it for development support. I didn't know if Kubuntu came with a global spell check or not. I'd like to include it in my distro.
[18:14] <Quintasan> WayneBlackmon: You might be looking for aspell or something like this
[18:17] <WayneBlackmon> Thanks.
[18:23] <Quintasan> yofel: Duh, uploading
[18:26] <yofel> meh, parley needs fix
[18:26]  * yofel goes fixing
[18:31] <Quintasan> LOL NO
[18:31] <Quintasan> FUCK THIS
[18:32]  * yofel tries to figure out how to use dh_sameversiondep
[18:33] <Quintasan> yofel: lol kppp is listed as not installed xD
[18:33] <yofel> haaaaahaaaaa
[18:33] <Quintasan> even tough the files are fucking there
[18:39] <yofel> someone here that knows how dh_sameversiondep works?
[18:39] <yofel> I need to make parley depend on a version of kdeedu-kvtml-data, if possible the one it's built with
[18:39] <yofel> and ${sameVersionDep:kdeedu-kvtml-data:libkdeedu-dev} errors out with kdeedu-kvtml-data not found in dpkg status
[18:40] <Quintasan> urgh
[18:40] <Quintasan> It looks like I forgot about that :/
[18:40] <Quintasan> uploading kdenetwork, yofel can you test build it?
[18:40] <Quintasan> it seems like something is fucked up with list-missing here
[18:41] <yofel> sure, after I figure this crazyness out
[18:41] <Quintasan> Thanks.
[18:42]  * Quintasan goes skateboarding for an hour
[18:43] <Quintasan> Gotta take my mind off it somehow
[18:45] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 4 * debian/control fix -dev package dependencies
[19:09] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/parley] Philip Muškovac * 5 * debian/control drop versioned depends on kdeedu-kvtml-data
[19:09] <yofel> I don't get this
[19:23] <bambee> yofel: everything works now ?
[19:23] <bambee> I mean, did you install kde 4.6.90 ?
[19:24] <yofel> need to review kdenetwork first, but I at least didn't find any more breakage et
[19:24] <yofel> *yet
[19:29]  * bambee 's parents are testing kubuntu... :D
[19:29]  * bambee is conquering the world
[19:32] <yofel> GOOD, now get me a working canon printer driver for my dads printer and I could get him to try linux again
[19:33]  * bambee blames canon
[19:34] <yofel_> tralalala...
[19:34] <yofel_> I need ipv6 :(
[19:34] <yofel> well, it *is* their fault
[19:34] <Linkmaster> yofel: what type of canon is it? Cause over in #kubuntu, some guys found the pixma canon driver for me..on the australian site though
[19:35] <yofel> there is some half working chinese driver for it I believe, but that's not much help in my case
[19:35] <yofel> also, my dad won't use a system that only has half-working support for his hardware
[19:36] <Linkmaster> Ah...I sort of gave up trying to get my mom to use Linux. She thinks its not good enough :/
[19:37] <yofel> well, I got a copy of W7 from my university, so he's at least not running XP anymore
[19:37] <bambee> why does kde-windows-manager depend on "kdebase-workspace-bin" ? (a runtime dependency apparently)
[19:37] <Linkmaster> I'm no longer a windows fanboi, though I'm still a diehard XP user...its xp, or nothing. The rest is crap compared to xp, IMHO
[19:37] <bambee> :\
[19:38] <Linkmaster> Gah, I'm off-topic, byeeee
[19:39] <yofel> heh
[19:41] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeadmin] Philip Muškovac * 124 * debian/control fix debug package dependency kdebase-runtime-dbg -> kde-runtime-dbg
[19:41] <yofel> bambee: shouldn't ...
[19:42] <bambee> I know
[19:42] <yofel> gah
[19:43] <yofel> Quintasan_: do a grep for kdebase before uploading something... you forgot to fix the debug package deps
[19:44] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeadmin] Philip Muškovac * 125 * debian/changelog fix changelog
[19:47] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 123 * debian/ (changelog control) fix debug package depends on kdebase-runtime-dbg -> kde-runtime-dbg
[19:47] <yofel> shadeslayer: you too...
[19:50] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdemultimedia] Philip Muškovac * 122 * debian/ (changelog control) fix debug package dependency kdebase-runtime-dbg -> kde-runtime-dbg
[19:59] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdetoys] Philip Muškovac * 87 * debian/ (changelog control) fix debug package depends on kdebase-runtime-dbg -> kde-runtime-dbg
[20:01] <apachelogger> yofel: can we upload yet?
[20:02] <yofel> no, dep issues, but *almost* there
[20:02] <yofel> you could akonadi for that matter
[20:02] <yofel> *upload akonadi
[20:09] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdenetwork] Philip Muškovac * 149 * debian/ (changelog control) fix debug package dependency on kde-runtime-dbg and kde-workspace-dbg
[20:11] <yofel> btw. anyone an idea whether kdepim 4.4 has any chance of working with 4.7?
[20:21] <CIA-52> [akonadi] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707202059-u7lil1for8kxrsqq * debian/control update vcs entries
[20:25]  * yofel wonders what he did wrong
[20:25] <CIA-52> [akonadi] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707202548-veo2ymjil36jk15d * debian/changelog releasing version 1.5.80-0ubuntu1
[20:25] <yofel> just got a ton of missing symbols in kopete o.O
[20:26] <apachelogger> I know who screwed up!
[20:26] <yofel> funny enough, it's those that have a 4:4.6.90 version o.O
[20:27] <apachelogger> yofel: soprano good to go?
[20:28] <yofel> ask shadeslayer, but I at least didn't get any file conflicts here in my last test
[20:28] <apachelogger> where is the branch anyway :O
[20:28] <yofel> hahaha
[20:28] <apachelogger> oh, apparently we synced it
[20:29] <apachelogger> hm
[20:29] <apachelogger> I wonder if I could script downloading stuff form a private ppa
[20:29] <yofel> bah, forgot to upload new multimedia
[20:33]  * yofel retries the network build
[20:33] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: congrats, you uploaded  non-dfsg compliant software to a ppa
[20:33] <yofel> what's non-dfsg about it? ^^
[20:35] <yofel> do we even need newer soprano?
[20:35] <apachelogger> ./backends/sesame2/slf4j-api-1.5.5.jar
[20:35] <apachelogger> ./backends/sesame2/slf4j-simple-1.5.5.jar
[20:35] <apachelogger> ./backends/sesame2/openrdf-sesame-2.2.4-onejar.jar
[20:35] <apachelogger> ./backends/sesame2/SopranoSesame2Wrapper.class
[20:35] <apachelogger> yofel: very likely
[20:35] <yofel> k
[20:35] <yofel> someone kill sesame with fire
[20:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: also you did not update the maintainer
[20:38] <bambee> yofel: all my printers work ! :D
[20:39] <yofel> well, *I* have HP printers, which work too :P
[20:40] <yofel> hmpf, kdebindings-4.6.5.tar.bz2, last echo of a dying race
[20:40] <bambee> lexmark + epson for me
[20:41] <yofel> never had a lexmark myself, I did hear that they work fine though
[20:41] <yofel> the last epson I had was something I want to forget...
[20:41] <yofel> but that has like 10 years ago
[20:42] <yofel> s/has/was/
[20:42] <kubotu> yofel meant: "but that was like 10 years ago"
[20:42] <yofel> . . .
[20:42] <yofel> apachelogger: can't you turn that off finally? It's annoying ^
[20:42] <apachelogger> no
[20:42] <yofel> :/
[20:42] <apachelogger> dpkg-source: error: LC_ALL=C patch -t -F 0 -N -p1 -u -V never -g0 -E -b -B .pc/x11_not_required.diff/ < soprano-2.6.51.orig.cqA77m/debian/patches/x11_not_required.diff gave error exit status 1
[20:42] <yofel> bwahahaha
[20:42] <apachelogger> I dont even know what that means
[20:43] <bambee> everything works, hehehe my father will be happy :D
[20:43] <yofel> patch failed to apply debian/patches/x11_not_required.diff ?
[20:43] <apachelogger> but why
[20:43] <apachelogger> when I run push pop manually they work
[20:43] <yofel> reason should be above
[20:43] <apachelogger> only dpkg-buildpackage screws up
[20:43] <apachelogger> patching file cmake/modules/FindQt4.cmake
[20:43] <apachelogger> Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Skipping patch.
[20:43] <apachelogger> 1 out of 1 hunk ignored -- saving rejects to file cmake/modules/FindQt4.cmake.rej
[20:43] <apachelogger> dpkg-source: error: LC_ALL=C patch -t -F 0 -N -p1 -u -V never -g0 -E -b -B .pc/x11_not_required.diff/ < soprano-2.6.51.orig.cqA77m/debian/patches/x11_not_required.diff gave error exit status 1
[20:43] <yofel> uh... Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Skipping patch. << WTF?
[20:44] <apachelogger> ohohoh
[20:44] <apachelogger> I know
[20:44] <apachelogger> diff sez me tar is poluted
[20:44] <apachelogger> there
[20:44] <apachelogger> I should have gone to bed at 7
[20:44] <yofel> heh
[20:44] <apachelogger> glib is just too exhausting
[20:47] <apachelogger> yay
[20:47] <apachelogger> fixed
[20:47] <apachelogger> yofel: thx
[20:47] <apachelogger> yofel: how is that blog post coming along?
[20:47] <yofel> the ninja one? not at all
[20:48] <yofel> currently I'm wondering what's up with my pbuilder 
[20:48] <yofel> or kdenetwork
[20:48]  * apachelogger waves fist
[20:50] <yofel> hm, could be that I've got pending gcc updates
[20:51] <yofel> apachelogger: well, fixing 4.7 is more productive than staring at an empty blog editing window wondering what to write...
[20:51]  * apachelogger disagrees
[20:51] <yofel> 4.6.5 needs to be done too
[20:51] <yofel> well, kdenetwork, then I'll give it another try
[20:53] <apachelogger> how does one use --configfile with pbuilder
[20:53] <yofel> cool, LP is eating bluldlogs
[20:53] <apachelogger> I am too stupid to use pbuilder
[20:54] <yofel> *buildlogs
[20:54] <yofel> https://i74735453.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/74735453/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-amd64.kdenetwork_4%3A4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz?token=fff2979a3568d76fa9f5ce457b5e74c8
[20:54] <apachelogger> also pbuilder code is like python code
[20:54] <apachelogger> also pbuilder is generally a lot like python
[20:54] <yofel> apachelogger: you create a config file, use that with --configfile and together with create, or update and --override-config
[20:54] <yofel> IIRC
[20:55] <apachelogger> --override-config?
[20:55] <yofel> ignores the current configuration and reads it fresh from the config file
[20:56] <yofel> stuff like source.list entries etc.
[20:56] <apachelogger> sudo pbuilder build gstreamer0.10_0.10.32-3ubuntu3.1.dsc --configfile /home/me/.pbuilderrcnatty --override-config
[20:56] <apachelogger> I: using fakeroot in build.
[20:56] <apachelogger> I: Current time: Thu Jul  7 22:56:24 CEST 2011
[20:56] <apachelogger> I: pbuilder-time-stamp: 1310072184
[20:56] <apachelogger> I: Building the build Environment
[20:56] <apachelogger> I: extracting base tarball [/var/cache/pbuilder/oneiric.tgz]
[20:57] <yofel> don't ask me for build, I use IF's in my pbuilerrc so my call looks like
[20:57] <yofel> sudo -E DIST=o ninja=1 pbuilder build ../kdenetwork_4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa2.dsc
[20:58] <yofel> but I have several different base tars
[20:58] <apachelogger> dpkg-gensymbols: warning: debian/libsoprano4/DEBIAN/symbols doesn't match completely debian/libsoprano4.symbols
[20:58] <apachelogger> cool
[20:59] <apachelogger> yofel: oh, that is an interesting approach
[20:59] <yofel> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/93163
[21:00] <apachelogger> cheers
[21:01] <apachelogger> ok, I think I fixed soprano now
[21:07] <apachelogger> yofel: why dont you use APTCACHEHARDLINK?
[21:07] <yofel> I build in tmpfs -> invalid cross device link
[21:07] <apachelogger> wow, you are wicked ^^
[21:07] <yofel> hey, works fine :P
[21:08] <apachelogger> I actually thought about building in ramfs at some point
[21:09] <apachelogger> uploading soprano
[21:09] <apachelogger> hope I fixed all
[21:09] <WayneBlackmon> Hey - I'm trying to replace the kickoff branding in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/desktoptheme/default/widgets/ but it won't let me overwrite or delete.
[21:10] <yofel> you want to ship a modified kubuntu-default-settings package
[21:10] <apachelogger> not necessary
[21:10] <WayneBlackmon> Is that a bad thing? Would that be agianst the licensing or what?
[21:11] <apachelogger> you could just cascade ontop of kubuntu-default-settings
[21:11] <apachelogger> kubuntu-netbook-default-settings does that
[21:11] <apachelogger> mobile too
[21:11] <yofel> ah
[21:11] <WayneBlackmon> How would I go about making my own default settings package?
[21:11] <apachelogger> which reminds me that I still need to implement an install-time-decascader
[21:11] <apachelogger> WayneBlackmon: just take a look at the netbook and mobile default setting packages
[21:12] <apachelogger> they are easier to understand than default-settings
[21:12] <WayneBlackmon> OK. Thank you.
[21:13] <WayneBlackmon> Would they be in the same place as the kubuntu-default-settings package?
[21:13] <WayneBlackmon> Nvm - I found it.
[21:13] <yofel> ok, the list-missing output for kppp *IS* fooey
[21:14] <apachelogger> one wonders why
[21:15] <yofel> hm
[21:15] <yofel> usr/share/kde4/apps/kppp/Provider/Yugoslavia/VeratNet
[21:16] <yofel> someone seems to not have noticed that that country doesn't exist anymore
[21:16] <apachelogger> well, one can hold on to hope, no?
[21:17] <apachelogger> yofel: I wonder if we should announce 4.7 upload on the ml
[21:17] <apachelogger> so that people do not update and possibly fck their system the next couple of days
[21:17] <yofel> probably, since it's going to cause some breakage, esp. since the upload pemissions and MIRs are worked out
[21:17] <yofel> s/since/until/
[21:17] <kubotu> yofel meant: "probably, until it's going to cause some breakage, esp. since the upload pemissions and MIRs are worked out"
[21:17] <yofel> *sigh*
[21:18] <apachelogger> oh right, MIR
[21:18] <apachelogger> ScottK: ping
[21:18] <ScottK> apachelogger: pong
[21:18] <yofel> well, according dpkg-deb -c /var/cache/pbuilder/oneiric-ninja-amd64/result/kppp_4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa2_amd64.deb the kppp deb looks right, so that seems to only be list-missing breakage
[21:18] <yofel> kdenetwork done then
[21:18] <apachelogger> ScottK: do we need to file mirs for all the plunder or do you think we could score a general exception?
[21:19] <yofel> apachelogger: do we want everything in main?
[21:19] <ScottK> apachelogger: Do one big one that lists everything as split from current Main source.
[21:19] <ScottK> No need for all the details, just a package list.
[21:19] <apachelogger> yofel: well, those that get depped in anyway ^^
[21:19] <apachelogger> + IMHO yes, all of core KDE should be in main
[21:20] <yofel> well, cantor is missing the R backend since that's in universe, so was wondering if we need cantor in main
[21:20] <apachelogger> well, I am sending a mail about impending 4.7 breakage to the list
[21:20] <yofel> and the MIR for R is expired
[21:20] <apachelogger> yofel: edubuntu perhaps is using cantor
[21:20] <yofel> hm, good point
[21:21] <yofel> I did keep the R backend disabled so either way is fine
[21:23] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeadmin] Philip Muškovac * 126 * debian/control fix Vcs entries
[21:23] <ScottK> Leave it disabled for now and we'll investigate later.
[21:23] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 124 * debian/control fix Vcs entries
[21:24] <apachelogger> ScottK: we had no a2, right?
[21:24] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdemultimedia] Philip Muškovac * 123 * debian/control fix Vcs entries
[21:24] <ScottK> We had no A2.
[21:24] <ScottK> yofel was too slow and Quintasan_ was skateboarding.
[21:24] <ScottK> I was working and imagine you were drinking.
[21:25] <ScottK> shadeslayer was somehow involved, but I'm not sure.
[21:25] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdetoys] Philip Muškovac * 88 * debian/control fix Vcs entries
[21:25] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdenetwork] Philip Muškovac * 150 * debian/control fix Vcs entries
[21:25] <apachelogger> k
[21:26] <yofel> k, now shadeslayer's rocs should be the only thing left except bindings
[21:27] <ScottK> pykde is done and the rest can wait.
[21:27] <ScottK> (re bindings)
[21:27] <yofel> right
[21:27] <yofel> hm, seems Quintasan_ didn't repackage okular
[21:28]  * yofel goes fixing
[21:31] <yofel> kbzr FTW! :D
[21:31] <bambee> kbzr?
[21:31] <yofel> bambee: bzr co lp:kubuntu-dev-tools, it's in /bin
[21:31] <bambee> ok
[21:31] <yofel> wrapper so you don't have to write the full address to the branches everytime
[21:33] <Quintasan> I did tell that list-missing is broken
[21:33] <yofel> it is indeed
[21:34] <Quintasan> yofel: But it's better to double check, isn't it?
[21:34] <yofel> +1
[21:34] <Quintasan> I'll be asking guys in #debian-qt-kde too look at my qyoto magic tomorrow
[21:34] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/okular] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (changelog control) Repack upstream source to include missing license copies and fix Vcs links
[21:35] <Quintasan> oh, sorry I forgot to repackage okular
[21:35] <yofel> nvm, took care of it
[21:35]  * Quintasan curses qyoto for taking most of his attention
[21:35] <yofel> meh, now to fix marble copyright
[21:36] <Quintasan> ScottK: What is A2?
[21:36] <ScottK> Alpha 2
[21:36] <Quintasan> Oh
[21:36] <ScottK> It was released today, but we skipped it.
[21:36] <ScottK> Nothing to release since 4.7 wasn't done.
[21:36] <ScottK> Better for people just to keep working on that.
[21:37] <Quintasan> I noticed we only have kimono and perlkde to do
[21:37] <yofel> and to fix licensing stuff
[21:37] <Quintasan> But since it's bindings they are not showstoppers, are they?
[21:37] <ScottK> No.
[21:37] <yofel> the bindings not, the licenses yes
[21:37] <ScottK> pykde is the only binding we need to build KDE.
[21:37] <Quintasan> I'll start working on 4.6.5 tomorrow
[21:37] <yofel> I'll try to fix marble now... somehow
[21:38] <Quintasan> That shouldn't be such a mess.
[21:38] <yofel> well, I did some 4.6.5 packages today when my pbuilder was idle, rather trivial
[21:39] <Quintasan> I'm hitting bed soon so I should wake up early tomorrow
[21:39] <yofel> feel free to do all of it until I get home :P
[21:39] <apachelogger> yofel: I cannot upload plunder, halp!
[21:39] <apachelogger> erm
[21:39] <apachelogger> download
[21:39] <apachelogger> download so I can upload
[21:39] <apachelogger> this is confusing
[21:39] <yofel> hm, apt-get source works here
[21:39] <yofel> with =version
[21:40] <Quintasan> kk
[21:40]  * Quintasan hits the bed
[21:40] <Quintasan> Good night.
[21:40] <apachelogger> ah
[21:40] <apachelogger> right
[21:40] <yofel> gn 
[21:40] <apachelogger> now I remember what I wanted to do
[21:40] <apachelogger> haha
[21:40] <apachelogger> Quintasan: nini
[21:41] <yofel> someone... (*yofel looks at bambee*) could start backporting 4.7 to natty
[21:43] <bambee> yofel: I am busy for now, but I can start backporting it tomorrow, sure :)
[21:43] <yofel> sure, no real hurry
[21:45] <yofel> I'll try to get someone to put a warning in the #ubuntu+1 topic about the 4.7 packages
[21:48] <ScottK> yofel: I'd say let's get it into oneiric before starting to backport.
[21:51] <yofel> k
[21:52] <apachelogger> yofel: kdelibs good to go?
[21:52] <yofel> should be, I didn't hear any complaints at least
[21:53] <yofel> apachelogger: fix the Vcs links
[21:54] <apachelogger> they are fixed
[21:54] <yofel> should be good then
[21:54] <apachelogger> yofel: could you chroot into an empty oneiric, then install kde-full and dist-upgrade with ninjas
[21:54] <yofel> I was doing that all day
[21:54] <apachelogger> ah, perfect
[21:55] <yofel> kdenetwork still need to finish building
[21:55] <yofel> *needs
[21:57] <apachelogger> yofel: is meta-kde in order alreayd?
[21:57] <yofel> recheck that, I only did some fixes on kde-sc-dev-latest
[21:58] <yofel> my current upgrade test wants to remove kde-full, kde-plasma-desktop, kde-plasma-netbook, kdebase*, kdebindings-dbg, kdeedu, kdeedu-dbg, kdegraphics-dbg, kubuntu-desktop, kdenetwork-dbg, rocs
[21:58] <yofel> kdenetwork should be fixed in a bit, and rocs is still WIP
[21:59] <yofel> rest sounds about right
[21:59] <apachelogger> Recommends: konq-plugins (>= ${konqPlugins:Version})
[21:59] <apachelogger> isnt konq-plugins gone?
[22:00] <yofel> apachelogger: nope, just moved source location
[22:00] <apachelogger> ok
[22:01] <apachelogger> MINIMUM_KDE_VERSION should I bump that?
[22:01] <yofel> but konqPlugins:Version is nonsense
[22:01] <yofel> as it has the same version as kde-baseapps
[22:01] <yofel> I have no idea what that does
[22:01] <apachelogger> changed
[22:01] <apachelogger> minimum kde version is the general version
[22:01] <apachelogger> dunno when that is supposed to be bumped
[22:03] <yofel> k, 20 removals left
[22:03] <yofel> IMO the 19 without rocs look right
[22:03] <yofel> ah, 'kdeedu' depends on rocs, that's why it wants to remove it
[22:04]  * yofel runs the upgrade test
[22:04] <apachelogger> meta-kde up
[22:04] <yofel> meh, now I need to add all the auto-installed stuff back :/
[22:06] <yofel> gwenview-dbg needs fixing
[22:09] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/gwenview] Philip Muškovac * 6 * debian/control Fix debug package depends on kde-runtime-dbg
[22:10] <apachelogger> I AM SCARED
[22:10] <apachelogger> to kdelibs or not to kdelibs
[22:11] <CIA-52> [kdelibs] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707221107-4m73wlpwxxe4wcag * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1
[22:11] <yofel> don't ask me, I did that like a month ago...
[22:11] <yofel> uh... why doesn't kate depend on kate-data o.O
[22:12] <CIA-52> [kdelibs] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707221201-1u7p70oraqliol5t * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1
[22:12] <yofel> shadeslayer: heh, you made kate-data depend on kate, instead of kate depend on kate-data
[22:13] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Philip Muškovac * 7 * debian/control kate depends on kate-data, not kate-data on kate
[22:14] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Philip Muškovac * 8 * debian/control fix Vcs entries
[22:19] <yofel> bwahahaha, KDE 4.7 RC2 tarballs uploaded - Dirk Mueller
[22:20] <yofel> I guess don't bother with rc1 for natty
[22:26] <yofel> bah
[22:26] <yofel> Unpacking kde-wallpapers (from .../kde-wallpapers_4%3a4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa2_all.deb) ...
[22:26] <yofel> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-wallpapers_4%3a4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa2_all.deb (--unpack):
[22:26] <yofel>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/wallpapers/Horos/contents/screenshot.png', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-data 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu4
[22:26]  * yofel goes fixing
[22:29] <apachelogger> yofel: Build-Depends: kde-sc-dev-latest (>= 4:4.6.3),
[22:29] <apachelogger> shouldnt that be .90?
[22:29] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/control Bump breaks/replaces against kdebase-workspace-data to 4:4.6.80
[22:29] <yofel> apachelogger: it should
[22:30] <CIA-52> [kdepimlibs] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707223018-1be6ze3dew4aax5f * debian/control bump kde-sc-dev-latests version
[22:31] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 4 * debian/control Fix Vcs entries
[22:32] <CIA-52> [kdepimlibs] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707223246-94tvekfwk3z71n17 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1
[22:33] <apachelogger> pimlibs going up
[22:33] <yofel> :)
[22:35] <apachelogger> yofel: okular ready?
[22:35] <yofel> check it, but should, I added the missing licenses a while ago
[22:36] <yofel> k, that was the only error for now
[22:37] <apachelogger> we applied sort-stuff-shit?
[22:37]  * apachelogger did not know
[22:37] <yofel> sort-stuff-shit?
[22:39] <CIA-52> [okular] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707223901-chs9kksiwydo3jqh * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1
[22:39] <apachelogger> oh
[22:39] <apachelogger> yofel: you did not change the version numba
[22:39] <yofel> huh?
[22:40] <yofel> bah
[22:40] <apachelogger>   1 okular (4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1) oneiric; urgency=low
[22:40] <yofel> too many stuff to fix -.-
[22:40] <CIA-52> [okular] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110707224027-drh35wcmk961bdfe * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.6.90+repack-0ubuntu1
[22:40] <yofel> sorry
[22:41] <apachelogger> easily fixed
[22:42] <apachelogger> okular going up
[22:43] <apachelogger> :D 
[22:43] <apachelogger> yofel: "KDE 4.7 RC2 tarballs uploaded"
[22:44] <yofel> you're like half an hour late :P
[22:44] <yofel> [00:19:51] <yofel> bwahahaha, KDE 4.7 RC2 tarballs uploaded - Dirk Mueller
[22:44] <apachelogger> well
[22:44] <apachelogger> I am doing work :P
[22:44] <apachelogger> yofel: how is the blog post?
[22:44] <yofel> I'm still staring at an empty page, the empty page exists though by now
[22:46] <apachelogger> ScottK: okular in source new
[22:51] <apachelogger> The source version for 'kde4libs' in Oneiric (main) is at 4:4.6.3-2ubuntu2.
[22:51] <apachelogger> ubuntu-build is kaput
[22:52] <yofel> launchpad... publish faster... I need sleep
[22:53]  * yofel removes the apt-pin on ninjas, let's see what happens ^^
[22:55] <apachelogger> yofel: is smokegen good to go?
[22:55] <apachelogger> also smokeqt
[22:56]  * apachelogger would like to get all the new stuff in so it can go through queue
[22:57] <yofel> smokegen should be, smokeqt NO
[22:57] <yofel> has no licensing whatsoever
[22:58] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libksane] Philip Muškovac * 4 * debian/ (changelog control) Version the Breaks/Replaces of libksane-dbg on okular-dbg to << 4:4.6.80
[22:59] <apachelogger> cool
[22:59] <apachelogger> "# Redistribution and use is allowed according to the terms of the BSD license.
[22:59] <apachelogger> # For details see the accompanying COPYING-CMAKE-SCRIPTS file.
[22:59] <apachelogger> "
[22:59] <apachelogger> yofel: libkdcraw is in questionable condition
[22:59] <apachelogger> that is what the cmake modules sez
[22:59] <apachelogger> yet you did not repack that file
[22:59] <yofel> ouch
[22:59] <apachelogger> so from that POV it is not clear what the license is
[23:00] <yofel> nah, that file should be there
[23:00] <apachelogger> don't see it
[23:00] <yofel> my fault then
[23:01] <apachelogger> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=libkdcraw.git&a=tree&h=666e228fd32203fd7fb542ab9b790327af80a0fb&hb=ba72c9e8781bb277cbbe0076d9e312691711a130&f=cmake/modules
[23:01] <apachelogger> nothing there
[23:02] <yofel> right, I believe I went back and added it for most places it was missing. Seems I missed libkdcraw
[23:03] <apachelogger> yofel: embargo'd for now
[23:03] <yofel> k
[23:04] <apachelogger> also, on a general note
[23:04] <apachelogger> not having branched the packaging makes reviewing much more difficult
[23:04] <apachelogger> for the 5.0 splitting we should really branch and preserve history
[23:04] <apachelogger> at least for the first few releases, then we can wipe the history if desired
[23:07] <apachelogger> ehm
[23:07] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you know, there was no need to create a new symbosl file for libkipi
[23:08] <yofel> yay, upgrade test went fine this time
[23:08]  * yofel goes fixing libkdcraw
[23:09] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ah
[23:09] <apachelogger> nvm
[23:09]  * apachelogger cant read numbers naymore
[23:12] <apachelogger> E: Unable to locate package libgrantlee-dev
[23:12] <apachelogger> fun
[23:12] <yofel> ah, that's in universe
[23:12] <apachelogger> yeah
[23:12] <apachelogger> was in main though
[23:12] <yofel> true
[23:12] <yofel> o.O
[23:14] <apachelogger> yofel, maco, ScottK: do we know anyone who can promote it again
[23:14] <apachelogger> who happens to be awake
[23:14]  * apachelogger does not like it when kdelibs is blocked
[23:14] <yofel> do we know why it got demoted in the first place?
[23:15] <apachelogger> no
[23:15]  * yofel looks for bugs
[23:15] <apachelogger> I'd guess some dep change
[23:16] <apachelogger> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grantlee/+bug/601662
[23:16] <apachelogger> fuck me running
[23:16] <apachelogger> auto expire
[23:16] <apachelogger> you are the love of my life
[23:17] <apachelogger> why exactly did we think it was a thing we want back again?
[23:18] <apachelogger> ScottK: if you feel like starting a discussion, I'd favor bashing of the lp janitor
[23:18] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdcraw] Philip Muškovac * 4 * debian/changelog repack again to include cmake copyright file
[23:20] <yofel> Grantlee is used for generating compilable code by the ModeGrantlee is used for generating compilable code by the ModelEventLogger. Without Grantlee, the logger will do nothinglEventLogger. Without Grantlee, the logger will do nothing
[23:20] <yofel> bah
[23:20] <yofel> Grantlee is used for generating compilable code by the ModelEventLogger. Without Grantlee, the logger will do nothing
[23:21] <yofel> that's as much as I get from the cmake script
[23:26] <yofel> okay... upgrading my actually used oneiric system ends with 78 removals...
[23:26] <yofel> stupid kdebaes-runtime
[23:27] <apachelogger> brrr
[23:27] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna, steveire: kubuntu-bugs now monitors grantlee in ubuntu
[23:27] <yofel> stuff like yakuake, k3b, choqok, etc.
[23:29] <apachelogger> yofel: why no transition?
[23:29] <apachelogger> transitional package that is
[23:30] <yofel> nobody created one, would be a good idea though
[23:31]  * apachelogger notes that we also do not have any meta packages anymore
[23:31] <apachelogger> perhaps we should add them to meta-kde
[23:31] <yofel> +1
[23:32] <Python> hi
[23:33] <apachelogger> yofel: do you want to do that?
[23:33]  * apachelogger creates a work item for it
[23:33] <yofel> if, then tomorrow, I should be asleep already
[23:33] <apachelogger> yofel: why yes, just wondering
[23:33] <apachelogger> otherwise I'll assign it to me
[23:34] <yofel> tomorrow sure
[23:34] <apachelogger> added https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-packaging
[23:35] <yofel> thanks
[23:35] <yofel> I'll add that transitional package now before I go to bed
[23:43] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 213 * debian/ (changelog control) Make kdebase-runtime a transitional package for kde-runtime
[23:44] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 214 * debian/ (changelog control) Fix Vcs links
[23:46] <yofel> wa..?
[23:46] <yofel> error: unable to load addon xine: Can't locate Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/xine.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.12.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.12.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.12 /usr/share/perl/5.12 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 8) line 2.
[23:46] <yofel> apachelogger: didn't you guys want to kill xine with fire at some point?
[23:52] <apachelogger> yofel: yes
[23:52] <apachelogger> well
[23:52] <apachelogger> just eatz it
[23:55] <yofel> k, enough packaging for today, good night