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holsteinkristian-aalborg: poing00:46
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Elise001Seidos?04:36
philipballewElise001, I dont think hes on04:39
Elise001Thanks.04:39
Unit193He isn't online right now.04:40
philipballewElise001, you can usually on most irc apps look to the side and see if a person you want is on. or start typing their name and use tab completion to see if it finishes the name. if it does, their online04:43
Elise001Thanks,philipballew.04:44
philipballewanytime Elise001 :)04:44
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philipballewif i'm formating my external drive. what would be the best filesystem to format it to. ext3 or say 4?07:02
philipballewor something else?07:02
krusidepends on what you will use it for, if for linux data storage only i use ext307:04
bioterrorext4 is the golden path07:04
krusifor some reason, ext4 didn't impress me :)07:04
philipballewim gonna set it up to rsync my desktop07:05
st33medkrusi, ext4 greatly improves read and write speeds07:07
krusiand can greatly improve on write errors on crashes :)07:08
st33medIt's generally better. philipballew, if you only use linux to read and write to the drive,  that's fine07:08
krusiconsidering that SW is developed more poorly every day07:08
st33medkrusi, SW?07:08
krusisoftware07:08
st33medum...07:08
philipballewyeah. i had it as ntfs and it crashed on me07:09
st33medphilipballew, if you want to access the filesystem with windows, it can't read ext4 or ext3 systems.07:09
philipballewnow i have to find a copy of windows to fix it.07:09
krusipoor software -> more crashes-> more problems :)07:09
philipballewi dont have a copy of windows on my laptop07:09
st33medkrusi, I'm still not getting where ext4 falls into poor software07:10
Error404NotFoundwindows rules!07:10
st33medIt's a partition07:10
philipballewError404NotFound, yes. good thing to put on the ubuntu channel07:11
bioterrorkrusi seems to be feeding fud07:11
krusiit's not directly related to partition, the fact is that poor software causes crashes and unintended crashes tend to have unwritten data on ext4, unless they fixed this caching07:11
Error404NotFoundlol07:11
st33medkrusi, that write is up to debugging software07:12
st33medNot the partition itself07:12
krusiwell..if you can disable delayed allocation it would be good i guess :)07:13
krusibut with this disabled,you get performance hit again07:13
bioterrorsomeone is about to use external drive and you wonder performance07:14
bioterroras we can assume he is using USB2.007:15
philipballewi am07:15
philipballewtwo point zero07:15
bioterrorgeee what talk07:15
st33medOh you are right07:15
st33medBut the standard consumer isn't going to worry that much about it.07:15
philipballewim not the standard07:16
krusiahh..don't get me started on external disks :P07:16
philipballewthe standard doesnt ask questions at 12 in the morning on irc07:16
bioterrorkrusi, go ahead and start07:16
krusia bit too early, need to grab some coffee first :)07:16
philipballewits 12 here. the world is big07:17
krusiit seems bigger at 9am :P07:17
philipballewwhere are you?07:18
bioterrorslovenia he is from07:18
philipballewcalifornia myself07:18
philipballewits hotter then aferica here07:19
bioterrorthan07:19
bioterrorits your native language07:19
philipballewenglish here. well mostly07:20
duanedesignmorning all12:04
duanedesignmorning stlsaint12:05
AlphaPsiHello, I was wondering if anybody knew a way to create Flash Games on Ubuntu. On windows there was FlashDevelop, but that is only for Windows. Is there an Ubuntu equivalent?12:05
duanedesignhmm, i am not sure12:05
AlphaPsiHmm, I was wondering if there was a way to create flash games like with Flash Develop. I really like Ubuntu, and I don't want to keep switching to Windows everytime I wanted to create something.12:07
AlphaPsiHmm I found this tutorial to use FlashDevelop on Ubuntu, but I would need to use Wine, and I have no idea how to use wine. :/12:09
AlphaPsihttp://www.flashdevelop.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=753512:10
coalwaterAlphaPsi, u just install wine and then it auto starts with any .exe file12:24
AlphaPsiIt says there are there Windtricks or something you have to install. What are those?12:24
coalwaterwine tricks is another package12:26
coalwateri think both are in the software center12:26
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sdollinsHihi.21:47
sdollinsI'm using 2 monitors and when I have the secondary monitor connected, the cursor speed (left and right only) is super fast but it's slow up and down. Is there any way to make it be the same?21:47
fedyhello I am some what new to Ubuntu os and I looking for resources to learn Ubuntu22:41
sdollinsLike a book?22:42
fedywhat does the beginning team do?22:42
fedyI check out your website22:42
sdollinshttp://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-11-04-Desktop-Applications-Administration/dp/1936280280/22:43
sdollinsI've read some his books and they were pretty good so I imagine that would be.22:43
fedyty i check it22:44
fedyI see the book is cheaper if you buy it in Kindle edition.22:49
sdollinsyeah lol22:56
sdollinsI'm not sure the kindle reader works on linux though.22:56
FireBeardsorry, just had to check if I had the name of this channel right :)22:58
FireBeardbye22:58
fedyI been reading the Ubuntu guide on the community documentation site http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/All_Versions23:01
fedyIts is helpful23:01
AlphaPsiHello everyone, in Wine, how do I create a new wine prefix? I heard that you can just rename the .wine folder, is that true/corect ?23:19
geirhaAlphaPsi: Yes, if .wine doesn't exist, it'll just create a new one.23:28
AlphaPsiAh I see, thank you23:28
geirhaYou can also tell it to use a different directory, e.g.:  export WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine World of Warcraft"; wine wowinstaller.exe23:30
geirhaI find that useful as you may need different configuration for each game/program23:33
AlphaPsigeirha, what do you mean?23:42
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geirhaGames in particular may need tweeking of graphics, sound and library settings in winecfg, but such changes may break other games/programs23:44
geirhaSo giving them each their own wineprefix solves that.23:45
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AlphaPsiHow would I do that, just use your command?23:46
AlphaPsigeirha would that create a new wine folder? or?23:46
AlphaPsiSorry I'm new to Wine and Ubuntu in general23:46
geirhaYes, it would.23:47
AlphaPsiAh I see, what would the name of the folder be?23:48
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geirhaWhatever you set in the WINEPREFIX environment variable23:49
AlphaPsiexport WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine World of Warcraft"   would make it World Of Warcraft?23:49
geirhaWINEPREFIX=~/.wine-starcraft wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe23:50
geirhaThat would create a folder ".wine-starcraft" in your homefolder, with it's own C: and such, and then it runs setup.exe from the cdrom you have inserted.23:51
AlphaPsiDo I need to put the export in front? What does export do?23:52
geirhaNot in the last one. That one will run the command ''wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe'' with WINEPREFIX=... added to its environment.23:53
geirhawine will look for WINEPREFIX in its environment, and use it if it exists, otherwise it'll use the default value, ~/.wine23:54
geirhaexport var=value will add an environment variable to the shell's environment.23:55
geirhaAnd any commands you run from that shell after that, will inherit the shell's environment variables.23:56
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AlphaPsiWeird23:57
AlphaPsiI installed Wine23:57
AlphaPsibut I don't see the .wine folder23:57
geirhaPlayOnLinux uses separate wineprefixes for each game/program it installs I think.23:57
AlphaPsiEven though I can see other hidden folders23:57
geirhaIt won't be created before wine tries to open it.23:58
geirhaInstalling or removing a package will *never* change any of the files in your homedir23:58
AlphaPsiOh okay, so I actually don't need to create a new wineprefix for the very first time? because it'll automatically create it right?23:58
geirhaYes.23:59
AlphaPsiAh I see, sorry I'm very new to Ubuntu23:59

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